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59:56 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 23rd 10am (Mekkis) |LSK: Sat 7.30pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
59:56 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Oct 23 03:57:59 2011
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00:59 <Mekkis> I did
01:02 <Mekkis> why?
13:48 <canine> just wondering, saw someone mention Linux.
13:59 <canine> its sort of like mentioning going outside to an inside dog.
19:54 <Mekkis> do you use linux?
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01:54 <MekkisScreen> yay for having a machine that's fucked up
02:02 <MekkisScreen> and requires a reinstall
02:16 <MekkisScreen> that being said, installin g linux is much easier than installing windows
11:27 <MekkisScreen> I could claim that Ballig stole my ideas, but that wouldn't be true
11:33 <MekkisScreen> they were freely given
45:19 * canine returns magically
45:33 <canine> whos installing Linux
59:55 <Brunius> (He does)
11:12 <Ballig> Avatar: http://i.imgur.com/Qggtf.jpg
07:01 <Avatar> YEP
07:15 <Avatar> go the calories
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36:53 <canine> heyhye
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51:40 <Avatar-> :o)
44:24 <MekkisScreen> meh
18:40 <Avatar-> no meh
19:09 <Avatar-> it's the end of the goddamn day
19:12 <Avatar-> rejoice
24:36 <Avatar> can't install IRC on a kindle
39:14 <MekkisScreen> ou can on a nook :)
39:35 <Avatar> I specifically wanted me ebook reader to be an ebook reader with no frills
39:43 <Avatar> my*
40:12 <MekkisScreen> does it open the core rulebook?
40:20 <Avatar> nope
40:35 <Avatar> my phone is actually better for that
40:45 <Avatar> since acrobat released that bookmark update
41:09 <MekkisScreen> Still have 15 mins
41:13 <MekkisScreen> :(
47:44 <Avatar-> only
49:16 <Avatar> my day was also garbage, if that's any consolation :P
54:32 <Avatar> http://kotaku.com/5852842/the-solo-starcraft-ii-player-thanks-you-for-a-shorter-heart-of-the-swarm-campaign-jerks
00:13 <Brunius_AFK> Dude.
00:33 <Brunius> Why did you get a kindle if it's so horrible?
03:05 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: no portable device short of a laptop can open the core rulebook at a respectable speed
03:10 <Brunius> Heh.
03:21 <Brunius> Challenge accepted.
14:35 <Avatar> it's not horrible at all
14:43 <Avatar> it's great for reading books
17:03 <Brunius> Pfft
17:08 <Brunius> Who wants to read books
19:29 <Avatar> probably all of you more than me
19:37 <Avatar> just hazarding a guess there
57:08 <Avatar> I thought it would be a good idea to save money by buying a 1kg jar of nutella instead of a 750g jar
57:14 <Avatar> I was wrong :(
58:01 <Avatar> just eating more of it
05:30 <Ballig> haha
05:36 <Ballig> I saw that coming
06:35 <Avatar> saw what coming
08:37 <Ballig> you eating more with a 1kg jar
15:21 <Avatar> yeah I am usually pretty good
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16:48 <Ballig> it'll cost them 280 gold to get a scrying or divination spell
17:01 <Mekkis> Ballig, Rubin didn't try to magic his way into anywhere
17:16 <Ballig> magic forgeries!
17:23 <Mekkis> wasn't a forgery
17:35 <Ballig> magic threats!
17:46 <Mekkis> wasn't intended to be threatening
23:56 <Mekkis> still, I probably should have communicated to you more than I did about the conditions on which I would have resisted
26:06 <Ballig> how does one person resist the guards of one of the largest cities in the world?
26:38 <Mekkis> how many times do you see one person resisting arrest in Australia?
26:59 <Ballig> do they ever succeed?
27:09 <Mekkis> sometimes they get away, yes
29:24 <Ballig> ha, would have been interesting to have a fugitive in the party
29:41 <Ballig> trying to avoid different kinds of investigators/bounty hunters
29:48 <Mekkis> Ruben was already playing as a fugitive
30:06 <Ballig> but not one that was a fugitive from actions within the campaign
30:10 <Mekkis> true
31:17 <Mekkis> that being said, there was no warrant or anything indicating that he'd be arrested
31:31 <Avatar> I don't think I'm going to get this mod stable
31:40 <Ballig> political intrigue!
31:44 <Mekkis> indeed
31:50 <Mekkis> all that potential!
31:54 <Ballig> ha
31:59 <Ballig> fucking lucianus
32:02 <Ballig> ruining it for everyone
32:53 <Avatar> at least you got to chop off his arm
33:05 <Ballig> hand
33:13 <Ballig> but that's what caused him to give up your biggest lead
33:18 <Ballig> in the hopes that he'd get a royal pardon
34:21 <Mekkis> INNISTRAD — Locals report here that zombies are getting trickier in their attempts to fool people into thinking that they are not zombies, according to a local church.
34:30 <Mekkis> Some zombies have resorted to trying to make people think they are still alive using various ruses, Gaffney said.
34:30 <Mekkis> “For example, a zombie may be carrying a sign saying, ‘I am not a zombie,’” Gaffney said. “However, surprise, when you get near that person and attempt to start a conversation, it will turn out that the person is a zombie after all,” she said.
34:30 <Mekkis> “Do not approach anyone carrying a sign saying ‘I am not a zombie,’ as, if you think about it, an ordinary, living person would not actually be very likely to carry such a sign,” she said.
34:52 <Avatar> Ballig: have you checked out the pathfinder apps on android
35:01 <Ballig> I haven't
35:04 <Ballig> what pathfinder apps are there on android
35:13 <Avatar> search for pathfinder
35:19 <Ballig> what pathfinder apps are there
35:54 <Avatar> sweet ones
35:58 <Ballig> like what
36:07 <Avatar> like the ones on android
36:09 <Brunius> mod?
36:13 <Ballig> which ones are they
36:56 <Avatar> for android
37:00 <Brunius> Ah
37:45 <Avatar> has anyone seen eidren
37:52 <Ballig> I don't see why I would want to use an app on my phone
40:26 <Ballig> not in the last day
43:42 <Ballig> good thing I didn't try to install it like you tried to make me do
47:48 <Avatar> I didn't try to make you do anything
48:42 <Avatar> hopefully I didn't chase him away with all my I'm going to let your character die talk
49:22 <Ballig> you were like "if you don't install this I am going to come to Canberra and punch you in the throat"
49:27 <Ballig> and I am like "no man, please don't do that"
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50:32 <Avatar> I think I would remember threatening to bash you
50:51 <Avatar> the idea appeals to me now that you have put the thought into my head
51:57 <Ballig> his character needs to die for him to realise the seriousness
52:24 <Ballig> I mean sure, 5 times out of 6 it might be possible to run in and attack without thinking
52:32 <Ballig> but what's the good if you die on that 6th time? no level 3 for you
53:22 <Brunius> That's probably because it's your idea...
53:47 <Avatar> he almost died on try #1
53:58 <Avatar> probably
54:02 <Avatar> ballig is always stealing my ideas
54:03 <Avatar> I thought that would be enough to show him
54:18 <Avatar> I underestimated his death wish
54:20 <Ballig> nope
54:38 <Ballig> because he didn't die, even though he very easily could have, he insists it was fine all along and he was justified in his confidence
56:02 <Brunius> Hmmm
56:06 <Avatar> well he hasn't reached the end of the scenario yet
56:09 <Avatar> anything can happen
56:16 <Avatar> I say we let him take the lead
56:27 <Brunius> I second the motion.
56:30 <Avatar> as long as we stick to our survival instincts
57:28 <Avatar> do you reckon we can trick his character into being bait
57:59 <Avatar> this seems like a solid way to use this to our advantage
58:37 <Brunius> I wouldn't.
58:46 <Brunius> No PvP, remember?
59:23 <Ballig> ha
59:28 <Ballig> it's not pvp
59:47 <Avatar> yeah I am not shooting him
00:00 <Avatar> distracting the enemy while we get a better tactical advantage
00:03 <Brunius> I guess.
00:10 <Avatar> we did this ourselves in the sewers
00:11 <Brunius> Well, let him tank if he wants.
00:23 <Brunius> I'll stick with Buck and heal him up.
00:32 <Avatar> the only other problem we have to deal with is the friendly npc's 
00:40 <Avatar> I guess we can send him in first to get all the info he can
00:41 <Ballig> I think Brunius might have missed the bit where he was being suicidal
00:46 <Ballig> he was on 2hp, he was in melee with the guard
00:50 <Ballig> the guard had just hit him for 8 damage
00:56 <Brunius> If he goes off straight at them, I'll make reasonable efforts to get to him/heal, but I won't risk Derau's life for him.
01:00 <Brunius> derp
01:09 <Ballig> I said "oh, shit man, I can cast a spell to save you"
01:15 <Ballig> and he says, seriously, "no it's okay, I've got this, don't help me"
01:27 <Ballig> the plan up his sleeve? casting magic missile and saying "die damnit!"
01:39 <Avatar> it was a bit more complicated than that
01:58 <Avatar> we were running out of spells and you weren't sure whether to drop another one to save him
02:03 <Avatar> in the first encounter
02:09 <Ballig> I hadn't cast any spells at all
02:10 <Ballig> I'm not that stupid
02:21 <Ballig> the first spell I've cast that encounter was sleep
02:22 <Avatar> then what was the problem
02:33 <Ballig> I wasn't willing to cast spells on the first encounter of the scenario
02:34 <Ballig> without good reason
02:42 <Ballig> the sorcerer getting into melee because he's an idiot isn't good reason
02:45 <Ballig> unless he's about to die
02:49 <Ballig> but when I offered, he insisted there was no need
03:03 <Ballig> he's just lucky that the next attack only did 5 damage to him, and not the maximum 15
03:09 <Avatar> it was more of a hmmmm should I cast this spell..... I dunno...
03:15 <Avatar> and he went no don't worry I'm good
03:22 <Avatar> or similar
03:23 <Ballig> it wasn't "shoul dI"
03:28 <Ballig> it was literally "I'll cast a spell to save you"
03:33 <Ballig> and he said "no, it's cool, I've got this"
03:41 <Avatar> I remember hesitation
03:42 <Brunius> Man
03:43 <Ballig> totally confident, not at all fazed
03:44 <Brunius> This guy is crazy
03:52 <Ballig> I'm thinking oh, he's got something up his sleeve
04:00 <Ballig> that was a 2 damage magic missile
04:12 <Avatar> it's pretty funny in retrospect
04:19 <Avatar> even though at the time we're thinking jesus christ man
04:28 <Ballig> I'm still thinking jesus christ man
04:30 <Brunius> Well screw this man.
04:48 <Mekkis> http://downloads.redblade.org/netbooks/sho5e.pdf
04:55 <Avatar> should be good
04:58 <Avatar> let him take lead
05:23 <Avatar> I mean we'll still go ahead of him, right up until he decides to leeroy jenkins it
05:42 <Ballig> the problem is
05:45 <Ballig> he's going to cause fights
05:55 <Ballig> fights that we could get around with minimum diplomacy
06:00 <Ballig> he's going to be inflammatory and put us all at risk
06:08 <Avatar> yeah that's why you should send him in on his own firs
06:09 <Avatar> t
06:17 <Avatar> so if he causes a fight, we can stay out of it if we choose
06:21 <Avatar> we don't know him
06:45 <Avatar> we're just passing by minding our own business
07:06 <Avatar> hell maybe he will manage to complete the encounter on his own
07:13 <Ballig> ha
07:15 <Avatar> you never know
07:18 <Avatar> he might know what he's talking about
07:27 <Avatar> maybe we have got it wrong all this time
07:48 <Avatar> like we go through this every time we have a trouble player
07:54 <Avatar> why have we not developed tactics to deal with it yet
08:00 <Avatar> this seems so easy
09:10 <Ballig> because it's been 1/3 of a scenario since we realised how nuts he is?
09:13 <Ballig> and we haven't had a chance?
09:20 <Avatar> I mean with other people
10:11 <Avatar> I don't think we've had other players suicidal like this?
10:59 <Ballig> not in campaigns that are so rigid about behaviour
11:26 <Avatar> I remember john was talking about a problem player who did a similar thing
11:27 <Ballig> although
11:32 <Ballig> there was lucianus' rogue/wizard in WLD
11:45 <Ballig> also his monk in soto
11:48 <Avatar> there was someone in his party who wanted to torture/attack the guy they were trying to get information out of
11:53 <Avatar> and there was nothing he could do about it
12:17 <Avatar> I don't think pvp was the option he was after, it's just a behaviour you don't want to have to deal with
12:38 <Avatar> was lucianus the rogue/wizard?
12:42 <Avatar> are you thinking of skyfire
13:04 <Brunius> Where will Lucianus be back, anyway?
13:43 <Ballig> hmm
13:46 <Ballig> what characters did lucianus play
13:49 <Ballig> maybe it was skyfire, and then lucianus
14:00 <Ballig> lucianus played in WLD later I think
14:06 <Ballig> and lost his endless spool of rope, ahah
15:09 <Brunius> Endless spool of rope?
15:34 <Avatar> skyfire was the one who created a multiclass character of the two classes we had characters for
18:24 <Ballig> and would get stupidly annoying magic items from obscure books
18:28 <Ballig> and get pissed when I destroyed them
18:40 <Avatar> I don't remember that, I wish I did 
18:46 <Avatar> what did you destroy
18:52 <Ballig> his endless spool of rope
18:52 <Avatar> oh wait, endless rope
18:53 <Avatar> HAHAHA
19:00 <Ballig> he was flying over the magma lake
20:28 <Ballig> probably not as bad as reece losing his magic rapier
20:39 <Avatar> that was unbelievable
20:50 <Ballig> haha
20:52 <Avatar> I have to say props to you for thinking of doing it
20:55 <Avatar> now
20:55 <Ballig> it's made you paranoid about dropping weapons now
20:56 <Avatar> not back then
21:06 <Avatar> it's such a dirty trick
22:37 <Ballig> he goes to pick up the weapon, "You get an AOO." "Oh really? Cool." "You hit him." "Sweet!" "He disappears into the ethereal plane." "WHAT THE FUCK?"
23:06 <Avatar> ye
23:42 <Avatar> it's hilarious what a downward spiral SoTo went into
23:49 <Avatar> one worst case scenario after another
23:50 <Ballig> lucianus caused it
24:03 <Mekkis> Avatar, Ballig do you have any feedback regarding my DMing style?
24:49 <Ballig> no you are always stealing my ideas
25:01 <Avatar> yeah uh
25:08 <Avatar> try and hurry us up
25:13 <Mekkis> ok
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25:33 <Avatar> you only need to look at CA to see how many of my ideas you stole
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25:40 <Avatar> trying to remember what happened last game
25:41 <Brunius> Such as?
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25:49 <Avatar> like all of it
25:58 <Avatar> except the grid thing
26:08 <Avatar> wasn't even combat, we were just lagging for no reason
26:19 <Mekkis> the scenario is a high-roleplay one
26:23 <Brunius> All of it doesn't really tell me much
26:35 <Brunius> You'll need more than that for me to believe you.
26:36 <Mekkis> there are four encounters, all of which can be avoided
26:48 <Avatar> I don't care if ye believe me
27:02 <Ballig> they were all my ideas
27:27 <Ballig> the only idea from you I took was being able to increase the size of the sidebar !
27:56 <Avatar> that is a big fat lie
28:18 <Ballig> you're right, that was my idea too
29:23 <Brunius> gg
30:43 <Ballig> although, honestly, if you guys hadn't just fled from the encounter at the library you wouldn't have even had to go back to waterdeep
31:09 <Avatar> I think we fled because we were dying
31:12 <Avatar> I may be wrong
31:23 <Avatar> no that was also my idea and you took it out !!!!!!!
31:24 <Ballig> you hadn't really attacked them
31:31 <Avatar> and yet we were dying
31:34 <Ballig> one of you walked outside and took some decent damage from empowered magic missiles
31:35 <Avatar> that's usually a bad sign
31:39 <Ballig> took it out? it's still in there
31:39 <Avatar> yeah get in the habit of noticing when we're going too slow or nothing's happening, then reiterate the situation/what we know (or what we should know) and then ask us what we're doing
31:40 <Ballig> then you all freaked the fuck out and teleported away
31:42 <Avatar> this is weird
31:45 <Avatar> I tried to unmod my phone
31:46 <Ballig> they were CR 8
31:50 <Ballig> (so together an ECL 10)
31:52 <Ballig> and now it's a brick
31:52 <Avatar> and now it is giving me a new startup animation that relates to the mod
32:18 <Avatar> we've been through 2 encounters
32:23 <Avatar> what's the bet we fight our way through the last two
32:36 <Avatar> we probably would have died
32:50 <Ballig> you could have tanked
32:57 <Mekkis> high, and unclear
33:05 <Avatar> as the wizard
33:14 <Ballig> yes
33:37 <Ballig> if only there was a level 1 wizard spell that gave complete immunity to magic missile
33:41 <Brunius> Dude.
33:49 <Avatar> dude.
33:55 <Ballig> dude.
35:45 <Avatar> that'd protect one of us
35:53 <Avatar> if I had it prepared, I'm not sure I did
36:02 <Avatar> probably not knowing me
36:04 <Ballig> it'd protect you (it's personal)
36:06 <Ballig> so you could tank
36:13 <Mekkis> Buck will be level 3 by next session, correct
36:17 <Brunius> dude.
36:19 <Avatar> with a melee weapon?
36:27 <Ballig> battering down the front doors and sleeping the night to prepare spells specifically for that encounter would have been better than teleporting everyone back to waterdeep :p
36:37 <Ballig> why would you have to have a melee weapon?
36:40 <Avatar> why? I could teleport back
36:45 <Ballig> get in the kitchen and iron my shirt
36:47 <Ballig> why couldn't you just walk out, take the magic missiles against you, then the others could come out and fuck the mup?
36:49 <Ballig> them up
37:05 <Avatar> what, to spend their spells away
37:06 <Ballig> my point is, the answers you needed were in the library
37:08 <Ballig> that's why the library was there
37:10 <Avatar> we never think about that
37:25 <Ballig> but instead you went back to the start of the campaign and thought "oh, how will we progress? you know, after ignoring that giant magic library because the encounter scared us"
37:26 <Ballig> :p
37:27 <Avatar> I don't remember how we got there
37:40 <Ballig> the cleric used a spell I think
37:44 <Ballig> "show the way"? maybe
37:54 <Ballig> or find the path
37:55 <Avatar> that sounds like a spell I wanted to take bu you wouldn't let me 
38:14 <Avatar> fuk that lol
38:19 <Avatar> one that finds the nearest city
38:55 <Ballig> it's a bard/cleric spell
39:06 <Ballig> gives you the directions to a specific location
39:08 <Avatar> there was another that did that though
39:11 <Avatar> sounded like show the way
39:13 <Ballig> no that was different
39:19 <Ballig> that wasn't to a specific location
39:23 <Ballig> it was just like "nearest city"
39:29 <Avatar> ye
40:01 <Ballig> find the path leads you to a specific location
40:08 <Ballig> you scried the lich
40:16 <Ballig> and the cleric used find the path to find the library he was in
40:25 <Ballig> it was all very creative
40:45 <Ballig> no random loot tables? it's just like an mmo LOL
40:57 <Avatar> LOL
43:11 <Avatar> bit unheard of from a motley crew like us
43:41 <Ballig> it was pretty nice to see some creativity
43:42 <Avatar> we're all usually "hmm don't know what to do next. I guess we'll attack"
43:46 <Ballig> it took a fair bit for me to provoke it
43:58 <Ballig> like, you know, people being kidnapped and magically compelled to betray you
44:03 <Avatar> "they're wearing surcoats backwards, they must be bad guys"
44:23 <Mekkis> but yes
44:48 <Mekkis> I intend to attempt to do run the next scenario - Murder on the Silken Caravan - in a single 5-hour slot
45:35 <Ballig> lucianus trying to bust into your room by force annoyed the shit out of me
45:39 <Ballig> that was the downfall, really
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47:18 <Ballig> gods, no wonder I haven't been remembering my 4.30 alarm
47:20 <Ballig> it's been disabled
47:42 <Avatar> when I was trying to transcribe spells
47:49 <Avatar> to get ready to go back to the library
48:12 <Ballig> well, you were transcribing spells because you wanted more spells
48:18 <Ballig> they weren't specifically for the library
48:53 <Ballig> felthik was off finding a metalsmith who might be familiar with the box, mekkis' character was off getting arrested for trying to magick his way into a heavily guarded barracks
49:02 <Avatar> wasn't one of them minor globe of invul
49:08 <Ballig> lucianus for some reason absolutely insisted that he needed you IMMEDIATELY
49:13 <Avatar> which I thought was the only way to be immune from magic missile
49:16 <Ballig> and tried picking the lock on your room and got arrested
51:00 <Ballig> I think one of the bigger problems with D&D at mid-high levels is when those characters go into a community
51:08 <Ballig> they have all these incredible magic powers that really lets them do whatever they like
51:28 <Ballig> and even though you would expect that one of the largest cities in the world would have protections against that kind of thing, there's no /rules/ on it
52:10 <Avatar> like for jail cells
52:39 <Ballig> even if you do something like say that the cell is under a permanent anti-magic field, there are things that that doesn't necessarily stop
52:45 <Ballig> so it's got to be like, a super anti-magic field
53:25 <Ballig> maybe I should re-run it in pathfinder
53:46 <Avatar> get it sanctioned for pfs
53:54 <Ballig> I'd hvae to write it :p
54:22 <Ballig> I could probably write it at a lower level
55:53 <Ballig> I have to be up at 5am tomorrow but I don't want to go to bed
55:56 <Mekkis> what do you think, Avatar?
56:07 <Avatar> yes Buck will be level 3
56:11 <Avatar> if he survives
56:19 <Avatar> if you can do it in 5 hours, by all means
56:31 <Avatar> let everyone know
56:34 <Mekkis> I can do it in 3 hours. In person
56:39 <Avatar> they may not want to do it in 5 hours
56:57 <Avatar> I don't know who doesn't want get free exp in 5 hours, though !
57:10 <Avatar> ok back to regular rooted phone now
57:10 <Avatar> this fucking game crashes whenever I alt-tab out
57:15 <Avatar> that mod spoiled me though :(
57:47 <Ballig> I could write it from level 7+ but Find the Path is a level 6 spell (so minimum character level 11)
57:53 <Ballig> so they'd need another way
59:00 <Mekkis> Avatar, personally, I don't really care that much about the XP... 
59:01 <Mekkis> :S
59:38 <Avatar> some joker near me has unsecured wifi
00:07 <Avatar> that's because you DM instead
00:22 <Avatar> what, were you making it up as you went along
00:26 <Avatar> that is a stretch
00:43 <Mekkis> TaxLodgement2011
01:24 <Mekkis> shit
01:29 <Mekkis> wrong keyboard again
02:05 <Mekkis> I don't understand the commonwealth bank
04:23 <Ballig> er?
04:29 <Ballig> you knew I was making it up as I went along
06:37 <Mekkis> I've been reading one of the Pathfinder novels
06:44 <Mekkis> it's actually well-written!
07:13 <Avatar> were you expecting it not to be
07:29 <Mekkis> yes
07:32 <Avatar> there is a voice actor in this game that actually sounds like you
07:45 <Avatar> have you done voice acting on any games lately
07:52 <Mekkis> it's a tie-in for a roleplaying game. They're typically not good
08:02 <Avatar> yeah I guess
08:07 <Mekkis> ummm... not directly, no...
08:17 <Mekkis> I have done some work in voice synthesis....
08:34 <Avatar> this game uses the word synthesis a lot
08:57 <Ballig> hm, they could cast Divination instead
09:00 <Ballig> that might give them a location
10:03 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3dFsMJCtPI
10:40 <Avatar> what if they don't have a wizard/sorc
10:52 <Avatar> there needs to be a Clue
11:07 <Avatar> I didn't know you were making it up as you went along
11:10 <Avatar> I thought you had a Plan
11:52 <Ballig> bards and druids can scry at the same level
11:57 <Ballig> and Divination is a cleric spell
12:16 <Ballig> there should be more than one way to do it
12:19 <Ballig> but they can always pay for spells too
13:35 <Avatar> hey there are a bunch of pathfinder apps on the android market
13:42 <Mekkis> I want to write a scenario where the Andoran faction mission is to go onto a busy intersection, douse yourself with petrol, shout "How am I supposed to make a living under these corrupt oppressors", and light it up
14:21 <Mekkis> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohamed_Bouazizi
15:34 <Avatar> it'd be good if faction missions were more like that
15:44 <Avatar> THAT would be the kind of thing that would encourage players to play their faction
15:56 <Avatar> "go deliver a message" is a bit generic
16:15 <Avatar> if what you had to do forced you to roleplay your faction, that would be awesome
16:38 <Mekkis> I had one where I had to buy ten slaves, publicly and loudly release them in the middle of the city, then escort them to the docks
18:42 <Avatar> that's pretty cool
19:05 <Avatar> I guess it would be pretty hard to set those missions up
19:14 <Avatar> but it feels like those faction leaders just lack the PASSION
19:26 <Mekkis> how can the Paracountess lack passion!
19:27 <Avatar> it's like I thought you stood for something mate, what happened
19:37 <Avatar> well to be fair I haven't played cheliax
19:46 <Avatar> but I am not expecting much there either !
20:35 <Mekkis> from what I gather, one Scarzi(sp?) was to cut the tongue out of a local bookkeeper
21:53 <Mekkis> to be honest, one good thing about the new factions is that Andoran is no longer the "good guys", and can act more politically motivated
22:06 <Mekkis> (and Cheliax isn't the "bad" faction)
12:47 <Mekkis> Avatar, what should I get on the reverse side of my T-Shirt?
12:52 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/swordbomber.jpg
12:54 <Avatar> what t-shirt
13:10 <Mekkis> that one
13:16 <Avatar> what's this for
13:27 <Mekkis> my faction
13:30 <Avatar> a group of somethings about to get bombed with swords
13:45 <Avatar> does this count as a reroll shirt
13:49 <Mekkis> not sure
13:54 <Mekkis> it's supposed to say "Andoran"
14:01 <Mekkis> but "sword-bomber" is more correct
14:05 <Avatar> what, how does this work
14:08 <Avatar> explain !!
14:22 <Mekkis> I was bored at work, and looked at the fax machine
14:42 <Mekkis> there was a spam fax advertising $2 T-Shirts with the print of your choice on them...
15:49 <Avatar> is that the andoran logo
16:27 <Mekkis> yes
16:35 <Mekkis> I vectorised it
16:47 <Avatar> it's a bird with wings spread
16:51 <Avatar> yours is an eagle in flight
17:22 <Mekkis> it's the old andoran logo
17:25 <Avatar> I like my first solution to your dilemma !!
17:54 <Mekkis> you think it should have the new andoran logo on the back, and the sword bomber on the front?
19:26 <Avatar> no, there should be a bunch of somethings getting bombed on the ground
22:20 <Mekkis> hehe
22:30 <Mekkis> "Create a consistent look in seconds!"
22:46 <Mekkis> you can get Sword-bomber baseball caps, pens, mousepads!
23:09 <Avatar> does it specifically have to be sword-bomber related
23:24 <Mekkis> no
23:31 <Avatar> $2 is a pretty top-shit price
23:32 <Mekkis> but this is after I've asked for the T-shirt
23:56 <Mekkis> Calenders!
24:10 <Mekkis> rubber stamps!
24:35 <Mekkis> business cards!
25:17 <Mekkis> and even a website! first month FREE*
26:14 <Avatar> FREE*
29:07 <Mekkis> yeah
29:20 <Mekkis> they automatically charge your card $20 a month afterwards
30:03 <Mekkis> T-shirt: $2 Image upload: $4.35 Grey colour: $1.75 Postage: $7
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