// #d&d — 2011-10-12
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00:01:32 <Avatar> Tashes: did you see your sheet
00:02:08 <snypt> avatar are you still doing girls homework for them?
00:02:48 <Avatar> tashes' or ballig's?
00:03:10 <snypt> either/both
00:03:14 <Tashes> i did not
00:08:06 <Avatar> go look at it
00:08:09 <Avatar> you can thank me later
00:08:31 <Avatar> and fill in the rest
00:08:51 <Tashes> but i'm eating sushi..
00:08:52 <snypt> whipped
00:08:55 <Tashes> :p
00:09:03 <Avatar> I thought you said you were sick
00:09:06 <Avatar> sick people don't eat sushi
00:10:08 <Tashes> it's the most i've eaten in two weeks.. i'm allowed
00:10:21 <Tashes> though it's only avocado.. i can't eat real food yet :(
00:17:57 <Avatar> seems suspicious
00:18:21 <Tashes> so does your mum, but you don't see me inspecting her
00:18:30 <Avatar> talk it up
00:18:32 <Avatar> I'm watching you
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01:29:14 <Sachiru> Here.
01:29:22 <Sachiru> Sorry, was reading earlier.
01:29:25 <Sachiru> You needed me, Avatar?
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06:12:31 <Ballig> Level 20 bard: http://www.reddit.com/tb/l8kca
07:01:46 <Avatar> might stay home today
07:35:53 <Avatar> new PFS char sheet template uploaded: http://dnd.ballig.net/charsheets/Character%20Sheet%20Template%20(Pathfinder%20Society).txt
07:36:10 <Avatar> includes survival in the skills list, PFS number, skill points/level & skill points spent so far, ac check penalties, encumberance, weight on inventory
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08:48:04 <snypt> ended up going in to work then?
08:53:18 <Avatar-> I guess
08:56:20 <snypt> =p
09:26:01 <Avatar-> all of you get on google +
09:26:39 <snypt> social networking is fail
09:29:59 <Avatar-> it's not fail, we are socially networking here
09:30:42 <Avatar-> it's literally a feed we can post to and it has a complete replacement for skype
09:31:09 <snypt> so is this
09:31:28 <Avatar-> posting to a circle means only the d&d crew see relevant posts
09:32:13 <Avatar-> get on there and if you don't like what you see, don't use it
09:32:33 <Avatar-> but at least try it so you know what you're missing out on
09:33:59 <snypt> nah i cant do it i give it to my brothers for using facebook
09:34:32 <snypt> how would i look if i started using one of those sites
09:34:57 <Avatar-> you'd look like you know what you're talking about
09:35:47 <snypt> i would be a hypocrite
09:36:42 <Avatar-> you can still bag them for facebook
09:36:51 <Avatar-> google + isn't the same thing
09:37:35 <Avatar-> people on there generally agree facebook is inferior
09:37:46 <snypt> how is it not the same u have friends and share photos and have groups and post about things most people dont care about
09:38:56 <snypt> i got a music disc =D
09:39:04 <snypt> nowi need to make a music box
09:39:08 <Avatar-> it can be the same thing if you want it to be, but it's set up in a better way to give you relevant posts
09:39:41 <snypt> twitter is good for that
09:39:58 <snypt> and almost everyong has one already
09:40:00 <Avatar-> following means people follow you and you don't have to follow back
09:40:22 <Avatar-> it's different from twitter because of the character limit removed
09:41:11 <Avatar-> content people post becomes better from that, which you can tell after you're seen people do it
09:41:52 <Avatar-> it's similar to twitter in that you get more stuff you want to see and less that you don't
09:42:29 <Avatar-> honestly I could go on
09:42:50 <Avatar-> take a look and if you don't like it, don't bother
09:43:32 <Avatar-> the only bad thing about it is a lot of people from facebook didn't migrate across
09:43:53 <Avatar-> but that's only a problem if you wanted them to
09:44:08 <Avatar-> the smarter people generally did
09:44:23 <snypt> i did check it out
09:44:26 <Avatar-> = better content on google +
09:44:49 <snypt> i had a look when it first came out and then again about 2 weeks ago last time you told me to get on
09:46:47 <Avatar-> well bloody add me
09:47:35 <snypt> lol i didnt say i made an account just that i had a look
09:47:44 <Avatar-> it doesn't work if you don't follow anyone obviously
09:53:04 <snypt> i cant find any diamonds today =(
11:09:14 <Avatar-> I've found about 6 ever
11:09:27 <Avatar-> been too busy with pathfinder lately
11:09:54 <Avatar-> I still have to go over the second half of citadel before the weekend
11:12:23 <snypt> i actually found like 9 after i said that
11:13:44 <snypt> u running that on sunday?
11:16:57 <Avatar-> saturday
11:17:22 <Avatar-> I think mekkis is running something on sunday?
11:17:26 <snypt> citadel is lsk?
11:17:35 <Avatar-> he wasn't clear
11:17:40 <snypt> oh im just reading the topic wrong
11:17:44 <snypt> that is the 22nd
11:19:30 <Avatar-> no
11:19:45 <Avatar-> citadel of fire is a pfs module
11:19:54 <snypt> yeah i figured that
11:20:05 <Avatar-> lsk is lsk
11:20:12 <snypt> which is why i figured it was on sundasy as it says you are doing pfs on sunday in the topic
11:20:25 <Avatar-> legacy of the savage kings
11:20:36 <Avatar-> gotcha
11:21:01 <Avatar-> if mekkis isn't running something on sunday, I probably can
11:31:21 Nodwik_away_for_thanksgiving is now known as Nodwik
11:44:03 <snypt> Nodwik, that was the longest thanksgiving ever
11:44:13 <snypt> did you see that packers agem?
11:44:15 <snypt> game**
11:55:42 <Avatar-> nodwik
11:55:49 <Avatar-> roll up a character !!
12:00:36 <Mekkis> Avatar-, Shades of Ice?
12:01:01 <Avatar-> what about it
12:01:09 <Mekkis> is that what you'd run on Sunday?
12:01:19 <Avatar-> if you're here yeah
12:01:30 <Avatar-> don't you want to run one
12:01:35 <Mekkis> sunday as in 16th?
12:01:43 <Mekkis> or 23rd?
12:01:51 <Avatar-> yeah this sunday
12:02:01 <Avatar-> I'm already doing saturday
12:02:03 <Mekkis> nope... not going to be here...
12:02:10 <Mekkis> PaizoCon :)
12:02:32 <Avatar-> I'll do first steps or we be goblins then
12:02:44 <Mekkis> First Steps 1?
12:03:07 <Avatar-> don't worry, I'm saving shades for you
12:03:15 <Avatar-> yeah first steps 1
12:03:34 <Mekkis> there's a reason I didn't do first steps 2
12:03:44 <Avatar-> brunius can't do shades 1, keep in mind
12:03:46 <Mekkis> and that reason is why I won't do it in here either
12:03:54 <Mekkis> what level is Kaleb?
12:05:00 <Avatar-> 4, but I think he's in the same boat with kaleb as I am with cairo
12:05:44 <Mekkis> so there's Kaleb, Bobbob, Grolschmir/Deceased and Cairo, in 3-4, right?
12:05:58 <Avatar-> I don't recommend uptiering shades
12:06:11 <Avatar-> yeah
12:06:17 <Mekkis> I recommend pressuring snypt to DM something at 3-4
12:06:18 <Mekkis> :)
12:06:22 <Avatar-> but I don't want to use cairo
12:06:42 <Mekkis> Buck's on 2.0 and Mellon's on 1.2 right?
12:06:45 <Avatar-> man you aren't listening
12:06:53 <Avatar-> correct
12:07:34 <Avatar-> snypt hasn't DM'd anything yet
12:07:53 <snypt> i did a few sessions of DC
12:13:44 <Mekkis> but yeah, we need to start tiering up :)
12:16:27 <snypt> ive actually been thinking about taking sundays off of work to play more
12:20:34 <Avatar-> do it
12:23:03 <Avatar-> forget work
12:26:02 <Mekkis> Avatar-, what's your plan for levelling your characters?
12:27:13 <snypt> yeah who needs money
12:27:18 <snypt> gaming is more important
12:35:42 <Avatar-> plan, what plan
12:35:57 <Avatar-> I plan to win, then I plan to level up
12:36:16 <Avatar-> using my experience points earned
12:36:40 <Avatar-> then I will update and upload my character sheet
12:37:12 <Avatar-> what's your plan
12:37:33 <Mekkis> mine?
12:37:59 <Mekkis> simple: play Mytiazair as much as possible at cons, to get more in the high-level range
12:38:16 <Mekkis> play Nightmare on slow-progression, staying at level 2 for quite some time
12:38:33 <Mekkis> play Deceased and Grolschmir whenever something in 3-4 or 4-5 comes up
12:38:52 <Mekkis> and use DM credit to level Kormiggahn to level 8 before playing him
12:38:58 <Avatar-> I'm playing in here and at cons when they're on
12:39:24 <Mekkis> which characters?
12:39:35 <Avatar-> getting buck as high as possible, but I'll use mellon where it's appropriate
12:39:48 <Avatar-> not using cairo unless last resort
12:40:08 <Mekkis> ok
12:41:07 <Avatar-> like if we really need a cleric, pretty much
12:41:15 <Mekkis> so never :)
12:41:32 <Avatar-> I want buck to surpass cairo
12:41:38 <Avatar-> yeah
12:41:45 <Avatar-> last resort
12:41:48 <Mekkis> maybe I'll let Kormiggahn play a game if one comes up
12:42:10 <Mekkis> He'll be a (wizard | witch) / (cleric | druid)
12:42:14 <Mekkis> not sure which yet
12:46:05 <Avatar-> consider avoiding wizard
12:46:16 <Avatar-> too many
12:54:11 <Mekkis> can never have too many :)
12:54:54 <Mekkis> (he'll start with cleric or druid first though)
13:12:45 <Avatar-> oh I get it
13:13:34 <Avatar-> I didn't get you were multiclassing
13:14:20 <Avatar-> ultimate combat is being shipped, yay
13:35:58 <snypt> hopw much is the hard copy?
13:36:41 <snypt> i almost grabbed that and the magic one the other day in store they ere like $50 each i think
13:52:31 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 16th 10am (Avatar) LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
13:52:31 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Oct 2 16:22:07 2011
14:05:45 <Avatar-> uh
14:05:54 <Avatar-> I don't remember
14:06:01 <Avatar-> amazon has it on special
14:06:18 <Avatar-> cheaper than paizo
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14:53:26 <Avatar-> oh uh
14:53:39 <Avatar-> I checked in with shadow mask
14:53:54 <Avatar-> he's busy for 5 more weeks
14:54:02 <Avatar-> then he has a few months off
14:54:26 <Avatar-> that's likely too late for lsk, but he might be up for pfs
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15:15:21 <Mekkis> mmm
15:47:22 <Avatar-> forget work
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16:42:07 <Avatar> hm we had ballig/canine/tashes here yesterday
16:42:12 <Avatar> maybe we should have run a 1hr game of citadel
16:45:41 <Avatar> quite funny that msn requires 4x the RAM that UO needs
16:55:45 <Brunius> heh
16:55:48 <Brunius> I wonder why
16:55:50 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 15th 11am (Avatar) LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
16:56:04 <Avatar> note that says 11am, not 10am
17:04:00 <Ballig> what time? 12pm?
17:04:10 <Avatar> 11am
17:05:29 <Ballig> 10am?
17:06:44 <Avatar> an hour after that
17:06:45 <Avatar> 11am
17:07:09 <Ballig> an hour after 11am? we already ruled out 12pm
17:11:46 <Avatar> no an hour after 10
17:11:52 <Avatar> 10+1
17:13:34 <Ballig> oh, 10am
17:13:35 <Ballig> got it
17:16:16 <Avatar> yeah 10am
17:16:37 <Ballig> ha
17:16:45 <Ballig> why is it later anyway?
17:18:17 <Avatar> I may have to go out and buy a computer before the game
17:18:25 <Avatar> either that, or I may have to sleep
17:18:31 <Avatar> win-win, I say
17:23:19 <Ballig> win-win for you
17:23:20 <Ballig> not for me
17:25:03 <Avatar> does 11 not work for you
17:26:53 <Brunius> Why do you need another computer, Avatar?
17:27:15 <Avatar> this one's aged
17:28:36 <Avatar> I bought it not long after tf2 came out
17:28:44 <Avatar> actually I lie, I bought it before then
17:28:53 <Avatar> I upgraded my graphics card not long after tf2 came out
17:28:59 <Avatar> it's probably about 6 years old now
17:30:29 <Brunius> Does it have dual core?
17:30:52 <Avatar> yeap
17:30:58 <Brunius> Can I have it?
17:31:00 <Mekkis> does it have quad?
17:31:00 <Brunius> :P
17:31:10 <Avatar> no, it has dual core
17:31:16 <Avatar> you can buy it off me
17:31:25 <Brunius> How much? Specifications?
17:31:35 <Avatar> $100
17:31:35 <Mekkis> Brunius, you should have asked at unicon: I recently migrated by laptop's operations to my new laptop...
17:31:48 <Brunius> I couldn't go to Unicon, Mekkis
17:31:53 <Mekkis> no excuse
19:37:10 <Ballig> Avatar: not specifically
19:37:14 <Ballig> but what if we want to play for 5 hours!
19:39:10 <Tashes> Still counting on you to wake me up for it, Avatar
19:42:13 <Avatar> then play for 5 hours
19:42:25 <Avatar> it won't even last that long, likely
19:42:33 <Avatar> we would have to start a new scenario
19:43:24 <Avatar> anyone used diskpart before
19:44:40 <Brunius> Can't say I have
19:45:10 <Brunius> It's a disk partitioning tool right?
19:45:37 <Avatar> yeah
19:46:04 <Avatar> trying to make a usb rescue disk but when I went to format it, the tutorial I'm following said it would take a few seconds, but it was taking a few minutes, so I aborted it
19:46:13 <Avatar> now it fucked it and I'm trying to fix it
19:46:50 <Avatar> nevermind, it turns out I am a genius
19:50:31 <Avatar> wow just as I am finished following it, I see right down the bottom "if this guide was hard to follow, use this easy-to-use official tool to do it all for you"
19:50:48 <knfbny> haha
19:53:32 <Ballig> what jerks
19:53:36 <Ballig> that's what you get for skimming though
19:53:56 <Avatar> actually skimming would have saved it for me
19:54:07 <Avatar> instead I decided to read everything carefully before moving on
19:54:15 <Avatar> I'll be sure not to make that mistake again
19:55:05 <Ballig> you read before you start
19:55:09 <Ballig> just in case you don't have everything you need
19:56:04 <Avatar> it's not a recipe man
19:56:08 <Avatar> there's no list of ingredients
19:56:12 <Avatar> you have everything you need
19:57:12 <Ballig> there certainly is a list of ingredients
19:57:30 <Avatar> there is only a method
19:59:52 <Ballig> straight away you need a flash drive
20:00:52 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 15th 11am (Avatar) LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
20:00:52 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Oct 12 16:53:01 2011
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20:01:03 <Avatar> that is commonsense
20:02:44 <Ballig> maybe it relied on proprietary software
20:03:11 <Avatar> the link to the char sheet template doesn't work on that page
20:04:59 <Brunius> diskpart is a windows utility, IIRC
20:05:34 <Avatar> it relies on windows
20:05:38 <Avatar> you must have windows
20:10:24 <Ballig> it might have relied on more than that
20:10:26 <Ballig> you didn't know, you didn't read down
20:15:30 <Ballig> I'll fix it before I make it live
20:15:31 <Avatar> yep
20:15:31 <Avatar> damn right you will
20:16:58 <Avatar> no it was a footnote
20:17:08 <Avatar> by the time I got to the end I read down
20:17:15 <Avatar> skimming would've saved me
20:17:19 <Avatar> skimming would have saved me
20:21:44 <Ballig> you need to read it before you start
20:21:51 <Ballig> like you read a PFS module before you DM it
20:22:03 <Ballig> or else you find out, at the end, that the last boss was meant to be stalking the party all along and throwing bombs at them
20:29:11 <Brunius> Remember the joke?
20:29:18 <Brunius> The guy is DMing for the first time
20:29:26 <Brunius> Reads out this whole passage detailing mobs and traps
20:29:42 <Brunius> Then at the end, it says "Do not tell the players any of this information"
20:29:50 <Avatar> what resolution is the site made for
20:33:55 <Ballig> ha
20:38:19 <Ballig> pretty sure it's modular
20:43:36 <Avatar> Tashes: have you got a character number for PFS yet
21:24:27 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=315
21:24:31 <Avatar> fill in the blanks
21:24:45 <Ballig> ha
21:24:56 <Ballig> did you do that for her
21:25:11 <Ballig> you are so whipped
21:25:17 <Avatar> well she's sick
21:25:24 <Ballig> wah-chssk
21:25:36 <Avatar> I wanted to test my new template
21:26:42 <Avatar> it's actually quite a pain in the ass to make a character sheet from those pregens
21:29:30 <Ballig> do you have any information for the /completely new/ yet
21:29:47 <Avatar> haven't done any more since the other night
21:29:57 <Avatar> I still have my plan, but it's not enough info I don't think
21:30:38 <Avatar> it might be
21:30:42 <Avatar> mekkis is pushing for some roleplaying stuff on there
21:30:50 <Avatar> but I don't think that's appropriate getting started info really
21:30:59 <Avatar> separate section
21:31:31 <Avatar> by the way I forgot to add the traits database link, do you have that
21:32:07 <Ballig> I don't have it
21:32:12 <Avatar> sec
21:32:17 <Avatar> I'll get it off where I posted it on google+
21:32:31 <Avatar> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0Ant1BdkLaMihdHZyNVN2aWhnWW5LRFp4SEhMMnRWVHc&hl=en_UK#gid=0
21:33:06 <Ballig> http://dnd.ballig.net/started.html
21:33:12 <Ballig> obviously I haven't yet converted it to the style of the website
21:35:02 <Avatar> I think you need a table man
21:35:10 <Ballig> just a random table?
21:35:14 <Ballig> sitting in the middle of the page?
21:35:19 <Avatar> keep links and advice separate
21:35:31 <Avatar> well keep it tidy of course
21:35:31 <Ballig> the links ARE advice
21:35:51 <Avatar> I'll code it up better and you'll see
21:36:02 <Avatar> you'll be all lol why did we do it that other way
21:36:15 <Ballig> you told me you were going to give it to me the way you wanted it on the site
21:36:17 <Ballig> you used lists
21:36:19 <Ballig> so I've used lists
21:36:25 <Ballig> don't go giving me lists and then being all "lol you need tables"
21:36:43 <Avatar> I sent you a draft
21:36:46 <Ballig> of lists
21:36:50 <Avatar> correct
21:36:52 <Ballig> then didn't say a word about it for a week
21:36:54 <Ballig> so I wrote it up
21:36:58 <Ballig> now you're like no man, tables are the way to go
21:37:00 <Avatar> I mentioned tables many times
21:37:06 <Ballig> and yet you gave me lists
21:37:12 <Avatar> I gave you the draft
21:37:15 <Ballig> with lists
21:37:18 <Avatar> so you had some idea of what I was talking about
21:37:31 <Ballig> I don't go giving a draft of a document to my supervisor at work and then insist that it needs to be completely different
21:37:34 <Ballig> she will tell me to stop wasting her time
21:37:47 <Avatar> it doesn't have to be completely different
21:37:50 <Avatar> just a table instead of a list
21:37:52 <Ballig> you gave me lists, you want tables
21:37:55 <Ballig> that's completely different
21:37:59 <Avatar> good grief
21:38:25 <Ballig> I'm assuming what you want is just a giant list of links with icons next to each one to identify if it should be for new people or experienced players
21:38:28 <Ballig> that's going to be really hard to understand
21:38:50 <Avatar> well I'll do it up and then you can tell me
21:39:17 <Ballig> when you actually do it up
21:39:30 <Ballig> instead of a draft of lists and then never touching it for a month
21:39:40 <Avatar> I am doing it right now
21:39:46 <Avatar> well the advice bit first
21:39:49 <Avatar> let's get the content together
21:40:32 <Brunius> Make sure you remind them how pro Avatar is at this PFS thing
21:41:22 <Avatar> how about I'll remind them that you might get them tortured
21:41:39 <Ballig> ha
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