// #d&d — 2011-10-07
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00:00:17 <Mekkis> ubuntu, as much as I dislike it, is real linux
00:00:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> do you use it?
00:00:35 <Mekkis> no
00:00:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> thank fuck
00:00:39 <Mekkis> and I wouldn't recommend it
00:00:46 <Mekkis> but I don't deny that it is real linux
00:00:55 <snypt> ubuntu is great if you are a noob
00:01:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> neither would I want to touch pretend mac/windows hybrid that wants to be linux
00:01:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> so do you use paid for linux?
00:01:28 <Mekkis> snypt, not if you're a noob asking me for help :)
00:01:33 <Mekkis> nope
00:01:40 <snypt> lol
00:01:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> fedora?
00:01:55 <Mekkis> nope
00:02:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm lost
00:02:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
00:02:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> whaT?
00:02:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> what*
00:02:47 <Mekkis> I use sorcerer on the box I'm experimenting with
00:02:54 <Mekkis> and opensuse for the serious ones
00:02:55 <snypt> so noone except avatar saw any problems with that sheet?
00:02:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> ???
00:03:03 <Mekkis> and debian on one of my VPSes
00:03:07 <snypt> i use debian cos it is win
00:03:17 <snypt> and netbsd
00:03:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis; is that experimenting one a 'shell or else' linux?
00:03:51 <Mekkis> I have an opensolaris install, but I haven't booted it in about a year
00:03:59 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2, sort of
00:04:07 <Mekkis> I'm halfway through installing KDE
00:04:12 <snypt> what is sorcerer?
00:04:21 <Mekkis> a source-based linux
00:04:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'd prefer to jump into the deep end and frustrate my way out
00:05:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> rather than noob it out in the kiddie pool
00:05:31 <Mekkis> snypt, what do you suggest?
00:05:45 <snypt> you want to start hard?
00:05:49 <snypt> openbsd
00:06:04 <snypt> but if you want propper linux
00:06:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> that schrodingers sorc sounds tempting XD
00:06:07 <snypt> do debian
00:06:13 <Mekkis> do you suggest that Spaceshot_tm2 start hard?
00:06:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> wtb acents on a laptop
00:06:34 <snypt> no
00:06:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> without a function numbpad
00:06:42 <Mekkis> accents?
00:06:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea that
00:07:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> can't really do accents on this laptop, got no numpad, nor a function key + blah numpad
00:07:40 <snypt> what do you want to use linux for sap
00:07:43 <snypt> Spaceshot_tm2,
00:07:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> to be honest, no idea
00:08:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> it was just given as a good way to quit gaming cold turkey
00:08:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> or, lesson gaming a lot cold turkey
00:08:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> so I can do something with my life/spare time
00:08:34 <snypt> haah you can still game with linux
00:08:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> since I'm not going to be doing any schooling/working for the rest of the year (at the least)
00:08:47 <snypt> u just run a windoze vm
00:08:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea I know I can
00:08:55 <Mekkis> you mean using a compose key
00:09:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> ?? I'm in windows bud
00:09:13 <Mekkis> windows VMs are great for work/schooling stuff
00:09:19 <Mekkis> but lousy for gaming
00:09:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> we have ctrl/alt/esc/shift/tab/capslock/enter/backspace
00:09:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> no compose key
00:09:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> alt + numpad is accents for us
00:10:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> on this laptop I'd probably duel-boot linux with windows
00:10:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> but on the PC I might even stick to just windows
00:10:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> I mean stick to just linux XD
00:10:47 <snypt> yeah not a vm but somethign like wine
00:10:54 <Mekkis> é
00:10:56 <Mekkis> é
00:11:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> anywho
00:11:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> I probably won't be doing it for a while (don't want to wipe C drive yet)
00:11:46 <Mekkis> ë
00:12:05 <Mekkis> it's not called "C drive" when you wipe it
00:12:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> and I won't be getting a new hard drive for a bit (end of the monthish, after the 20th)
00:12:09 <Mekkis> æ
00:12:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> you know what I mean
00:12:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> also, will linux be able to read my hard drive if I don't wipe it?
00:12:40 <Mekkis> we should have a kill-9 duel again
00:12:45 <Mekkis> sure
00:12:50 <snypt> just partition off a little section for linux and dual boot it
00:12:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> and it's contents?
00:13:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> my C drive is about 12gig free, and my D is 40~ free
00:13:16 <snypt> lol mekkis u pwnd me last time
00:13:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> kill-9?
00:14:26 <snypt> kill is a nix command
00:14:37 <snypt> it is like the little cross in windows
00:14:46 <snypt> but you can kill things other than apps with it
00:14:58 <snypt> like peoples logins
00:15:20 <snypt> so the aim of the game is pretty much too kill the other guys login process b4 he kills yours
00:15:36 <snypt> anyway i need to get some sleep
00:15:45 <snypt> i have to get in getting up early mode for this weekend
00:15:55 <snypt> not to mention i have a character to finish tomorrow
00:23:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> well, got a few weeks to decide on the linux
00:24:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so was the convention on today? or is it just the weekend?
00:25:27 <MekkisScreen> just the weekend
00:28:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, there is very little about skirnir magus archetype on the web
00:28:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I clearly know why, it's subpar compared to what I could have
00:28:57 <Mekkis> snypt, I got a VPS running debian now
00:29:15 <Mekkis> so I won't have the 100ms lag advantage now
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00:30:01 * Mekkis knifes a bunny
00:30:06 <Mekkis> greetings, knifebunny!
00:30:17 <knifebunny> aloha
00:30:20 <knifebunny> =]
00:31:32 <MekkisScreen> snypt: how are you paying for the shortbow?
00:33:35 <MekkisScreen> I wish this phone had a control key
00:34:38 <Mekkis> how are things?
00:36:46 <knifebunny> not much really, trying to wind down .. big week at work (thankfully only one more day left)
00:36:47 <knifebunny> you?
00:39:45 <Mekkis> getting ready to fly down to a con
00:39:47 <Mekkis> :)
00:40:12 <knifebunny> oh nice! what con ?
00:41:18 <Mekkis> unicon
00:41:21 <Mekkis> in Melbourne
00:42:26 <knifebunny> oh, its a con for tabletop games is it ?
00:42:35 <Mekkis> ja
00:44:29 <knifebunny> sounds like a lot of fun :) although i havent played any tabletop games for a long time
00:45:09 <Mekkis> is that one reason you're here?
00:45:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> anywho, nice quasi meeting you KB
00:45:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> should of been asleep an hr ago
00:45:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> cya
00:45:41 <knifebunny> night Spaceshot_tm2
00:46:31 <knifebunny> Mekkis; yeah, i thought i might give the online variant a go some time, and also because i maintain the austnet.org website, so i was going to try and promote the channel and its website on there too if Ballig was interested
00:46:55 <Mekkis> ah
00:47:00 <Mekkis> he probably will be
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00:48:06 <knifebunny> sounds like a pretty cool idea, so i thought id try to promote it in the hopes that other people whom might be interested could give it a go too :)
00:48:55 <Mekkis> you've probably noticed that we've been here for years....
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00:50:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> is arcane archer worth taking these days?
00:51:04 <knifebunny> i have actually only been back on austnet for around a year now, so you may have to pardon my ignorance :)
00:51:26 <Mekkis> :o
00:51:42 <Mekkis> Queensland?
00:51:54 <knifebunny> indeed
01:00:12 <Mekkis> oh well... nice talking to you
01:00:22 <Mekkis> I need to sleep: I have a flight tomorrow
01:02:18 <knifebunny> nite ><
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10:38:48 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 16th 10am (Avatar) LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
10:38:48 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Oct 2 16:22:07 2011
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10:42:23 <snypt> off to work Avatar?
10:44:29 <MekkisScreen> that's what I'm on atm
10:53:32 <Avatar-> yep :(
10:53:51 <Avatar-> cops and ambos at the train station
10:54:03 <snypt> =/ maybe someone got hit
10:54:16 <Brunius> Man
10:54:44 <Brunius> One of my other friends has just started bugging me about my unicon
10:55:15 <Avatar-> maybe you should go
10:56:44 <Avatar-> some of the cops are wearing blue gloves
10:56:48 <Avatar-> like in serenity
11:02:49 <snypt> fucking creepers always messing with my castle
11:03:11 <Brunius> lulz
11:03:41 <snypt> who blew one up in front of the hovel yesterday and didnt fix the wall?
11:08:23 <Avatar-> I wasn't on yesterday
11:08:34 <snypt> should see my castle
11:08:37 <snypt> it is badass
11:08:44 <Avatar-> brunius where do you mine
11:08:47 <snypt> and my cobblestone generator is pretty cool
11:09:24 <Avatar-> looks like on my mine on the upper level
11:09:53 <Avatar-> there are torches in there that I didn't place, I got hopelessly lost a couple of times
11:10:22 <snypt> if you want u can mine in that rich ass mine i was in the other day
11:10:36 <snypt> i got like half a stack od diamond in less than an hour
11:12:28 <Brunius> I mine in my mine.
11:12:31 <Brunius> Duh.
11:12:47 <Brunius> And your "mine" is a cave.
11:12:54 <Brunius> I do "proper" mining.
11:12:58 <snypt> lol u guys are so close together it is probably the same mine
11:13:15 <Brunius> I pretty much never go cave-raiding though.
11:13:23 <Brunius> I branch mine.
11:14:33 <snypt> btw i got some slimeballs
11:14:36 <snypt> =D
11:14:48 <Brunius> gg
11:15:09 <Brunius> So I guess that's what's powering your cobble generator?
11:15:21 <snypt> nah that just used normaly pistons
11:15:26 <snypt> normal*
11:15:47 <snypt> i will use sticky pistons for the gate to my castle
11:16:43 <Brunius> Ah
11:17:51 <Avatar-> it is a mine
11:18:11 <Avatar-> where is your mine
11:19:05 <Avatar-> there is an exit that leads to the surface nowhere near the exit below the float
11:26:35 <Brunius> My mine has a connection to my mineshaft, which connects to my ladder.
11:26:44 <Brunius> I haven't done much cave raiding in this world.
11:54:36 <snypt> is there a reason the survival skill isnt on the pfs character sheet?
11:58:35 <Brunius> It is.
11:58:44 <Brunius> 3rd from the bottom.
11:59:11 <snypt> on the one from dnd.ballig.net?
11:59:20 <Brunius> Oh, I dunno about that one.
11:59:29 <Brunius> I use hard-copies for PFS now
11:59:44 <Brunius> Too much effort to sync the electronic and hard copies
11:59:55 <Brunius> If you need it just stick it in
12:00:05 <snypt> yeah i did
12:00:27 <snypt> i just wasnt sure if there was some rule just for pfs that says it isnt allowed or something
12:01:42 <Avatar-> I'll put it in the next template
12:02:18 <Avatar-> the skills on there were only there for convenience, you were meant to add the ones you had yourself
12:02:30 <Avatar-> but that doesn't really work out
12:02:53 <Avatar-> brunius don't you plan on playing online anymore
12:02:56 <snypt> all good i sorted it now
12:04:09 <snypt> are some of the skills trained only in pathfinder?
12:04:18 <snypt> or can u just use anything even if you dont take a rank?
12:04:25 <Avatar-> yeah
12:04:36 <Avatar-> same as 3.5
12:04:55 <Avatar-> knowledge is trained only
12:08:22 <snypt> man this pdf is slow
12:08:33 <snypt> probably doesnt help that it h as been open for over a week
12:09:14 <Brunius> Avatar I plan on playing online in the future.
12:09:48 <snypt> so +3 on checks for class skills i have trained and all that crap yeah?
12:11:00 <Avatar-> yeah
12:11:06 <Avatar-> what's and all that crap
12:11:19 <Avatar-> same as in pathfinder
12:11:20 <snypt> racial modifiers and all that
12:11:24 <Avatar-> yeah
12:11:36 <Avatar-> what class are you rolling?
12:11:37 <snypt> i just have to look it all up again to make sure it is the same as in 3.5 =p
12:11:40 <snypt> ranger
12:11:46 <Avatar-> oh yeah you told me
12:15:42 <snypt> do u have hard copys of the pathfinder books?
12:17:23 <MekkisScreen> moin
12:17:42 <MekkisScreen> moin
12:17:50 <snypt> hey man whats up
12:19:11 <MekkisScreen> +dhjgkfild
12:19:18 <snypt> reallt?
12:19:22 <snypt> really*
12:20:42 <MekkisScreen> in melbourne ju
12:20:43 <MekkisScreen> st landed
12:20:50 <snypt> nice
12:21:21 <MekkisScreen> yeah.. and the connection is crap in here
12:21:22 <MekkisScreen> Avatar, lunch?
12:23:26 <Avatar-> sure
12:23:49 <Avatar-> meet me at pancakes around 12.30?
12:24:18 <Avatar-> is that too soon
12:26:27 <MekkisScreen> should be fine
12:26:38 <MekkisScreen> unl.ess tulla is further than Avalon
12:26:53 <Brunius> Unl.ess?
12:27:00 <MekkisScreen> unless
12:31:40 <MekkisScreen> I'll probably have time to dump bags and check in before that
12:33:15 <Avatar-> it's closer
12:33:29 <Avatar-> 20 minutes on the skybus to southern cross
12:51:55 <MekkisScreen> chances are I'll be early then
12:52:11 <snypt> what are traits?
12:52:17 <MekkisScreen> I'll tell you when I'm at southern cross
12:52:18 <snypt> i dont recall those from 3.5
12:52:27 <MekkisScreen> like feats, with less power
12:52:35 <snypt> where in the book are they?
12:52:43 <snypt> and how many do you get?
12:52:50 <MekkisScreen> traits in 3.5 were generally in UA and frowned at
12:52:53 <MekkisScreen> two
12:53:14 <MekkisScreen> search for pathfinder character traits web enhancement
12:53:40 <MekkisScreen> (PFCTWE)
12:55:30 <MekkisScreen> alright... Southern cross
12:56:06 <MekkisScreen> avatar, can you get there in 10 mins, or should I kill some time first?
13:01:48 <MekkisScreen> !throw 1d6
13:01:48 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 1d6: [1d6=6] 6
13:09:51 <snypt> ok i got a bit of a confusion here
13:10:17 <snypt> in the ore rulebook it says that rangers hav d10 hd but in the pfs book it says d8
13:10:43 <MekkisScreen> they have d10
13:11:09 <MekkisScreen> so 10hp + con + favoured class at first level
13:12:04 <snypt> what is favoured class?
13:12:12 <Brunius> The PFS book is a littel bit wrong.
13:12:28 <MekkisScreen> when you create your character, you choose a favoured class
13:12:45 <Brunius> How does multiclassing exp penalties work in PFS anyway?
13:12:57 <MekkisScreen> whenever you take a level in that class, you get either one extra hp or one extra skill
13:12:59 <snypt> ah cool i found the section on it
13:13:10 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: they removed them
13:13:22 <MekkisScreen> its not like they ever mattered in 3.5
13:13:33 <Brunius> So why not remove favoured class as well?
13:13:40 <MekkisScreen> avatar...?
13:13:53 <snypt> oh yeah btw
13:14:09 <MekkisScreen> they wanted to discourage multiclassing
13:14:19 <snypt> when we play at the con do we use miniatures and shit
13:14:29 <MekkisScreen> generally
13:14:36 <snypt> ill have to get one then
13:14:42 <snypt> im sure someone will be selling them there?
13:14:44 <Brunius> They have spares
13:14:48 <Brunius> And they sell them there
13:14:54 <MekkisScreen> either that or scab one :)
13:14:55 <snypt> cool
13:15:01 <Brunius> I should get dad's old D&D minis painted up
13:15:06 <Brunius> They're made of lead :)
13:15:07 <MekkisScreen> yes
13:15:10 <MekkisScreen> you should
13:15:18 <snypt> just gear then im done =D
13:15:27 <MekkisScreen> and go to White's sessions on Saturdays
13:16:06 <Brunius> Saturdays?
13:16:59 <MekkisScreen> or are they sundays
13:17:02 <MekkisScreen> I forget
13:18:56 <Brunius> Sundays
13:19:08 <MekkisScreen> yeah
13:19:10 <MekkisScreen> them
13:21:38 <Avatar-> sorry I haven't left yet
13:21:58 <Avatar-> should I hurry off or are you killing time
13:24:46 <MekkisScreen> I'm killing time
13:25:01 <MekkisScreen> I'll be ther in about half an hour
13:25:34 <MekkisScreen> (killing time = checking in and depositing bags)
13:26:56 <Avatar-> yep perfect
13:42:16 <Brunius> Avatar-: 30 Diamond, you jelly?
13:45:19 <Avatar-> what mine, you snob
13:46:26 <snypt> ok guys
13:46:34 <snypt> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=314
13:46:40 <snypt> let me know where i fucked it up
13:46:52 <snypt> im half asleep so i cant proof my own shit
13:47:22 <snypt> also dont i need a pfs number or some shit?
13:50:05 <Brunius> Yeah
13:50:07 <Brunius> Go to the site
13:50:09 <Brunius> Sign up
13:50:12 <Brunius> paizo.com
13:51:58 <snypt> doing it now
13:52:01 <snypt> got a number
13:52:49 <snypt> i dont have to upload a sheet to that site do i?
13:52:59 <Avatar-> you number getter
13:53:00 <Avatar-> no
13:53:16 <snypt> well im a legit pathfinder
13:53:21 <snypt> well semi legit
13:53:31 <snypt> i dont think i registered with my real name at pazio
13:53:38 <snypt> Jimmy Hand is me =)
13:55:48 <Brunius> You Jimmy Hand-er you
13:56:17 <Avatar-> I'm here mekkis
13:56:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis: did you end up getting magus divination spells?
13:57:24 <MekkisScreen> i'm getting on a traim that should get me there
13:57:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh right, you're probs in melbourne by now XD
13:57:58 <MekkisScreen> I am
13:58:02 <Avatar-> you want a city loop train
13:58:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> where you guys meeting up?
13:58:28 <Avatar-> don't get a flinders st one
13:58:43 <Avatar-> spaceshot: city, you wanna come?
13:58:45 <MekkisScreen> damn
13:58:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> no in melb, soz
13:59:09 <MekkisScreen> I'll get off at richmond and find another connection then?
13:59:16 <Avatar-> if you get off at flinders, tram it to latrobe st
13:59:39 <Avatar-> or train back to richmond, but that's longer
13:59:56 <MekkisScreen> I'm coming intolrichmond now
13:59:56 <Avatar-> yeah you can do that
14:00:14 <Avatar-> yeah just get a city loop train then
14:00:15 <MekkisScreen> (staying at south yarra)
14:00:59 <Avatar-> you can change at either south yarra or richmond
14:02:10 <MekkisScreen> according to this, I can't
14:03:30 <MekkisScreen> richmond doesn't go to city loop
14:04:49 <snypt> loop trains are odd if in the morning they go through the loop on the way to the cityt hen in the arvo they will go throught the loop on the way out of the city
14:05:28 <snypt> at least that is what i have seen on the epping line
14:07:36 <Avatar-> pretty sure one does, ask someone
14:07:54 <Avatar-> failing that, go flinders and tram to latrobe st
14:08:12 <Brunius> Richmond has like half the lines running into it
14:08:24 <Avatar-> take any tram up swanston st and go 3 stops
14:08:28 <MekkisScreen> that's my plan
14:08:30 <Brunius> There will be at least 5 trains going around the loop in any given 5 minutes
14:08:37 <Brunius> At least during this time of the day
14:08:47 <MekkisScreen> nope
14:08:56 <Avatar-> the city loop changes direction at about 1 pm
14:09:08 <Brunius> Look for Flinders Street via City Loop trains'
14:09:09 <Avatar-> so it's not impossible
14:09:10 <MekkisScreen> so I just missedit
14:09:47 <MekkisScreen> brunius. it said "To go on city loop, travel to Flinders st and board a city loop train"
14:10:01 <Brunius> derp
14:10:14 <Brunius> Our system is so derpy
14:10:54 <snypt> stupid enderman always fucking up my cavern
14:20:31 <MekkisScreen> is it balanced?
14:23:33 <MekkisScreen> I'm at central now. Be there in a tick
14:51:41 <Brunius> Hey Avatar....
14:51:49 <Brunius> Hope you didn't want that forest near spawn
14:57:52 <Avatar-> nope
14:57:59 <Avatar-> why would I
14:59:22 <Brunius> I dunno
14:59:30 <Brunius> Just, well, It's kinda on fire.
14:59:56 <knfbny> lol
15:02:52 <Avatar-> what did you do
15:02:58 <Brunius> That lava beacon I made
15:03:07 <Brunius> I tried to add an incinerator
15:03:14 <Brunius> It's ok!
15:03:22 <Brunius> Only two trees burned down
15:03:30 <Brunius> There's cobble all down the hillside.
15:03:32 <Avatar-> oh is that it
15:03:34 <Brunius> But that's ok
15:03:43 <Brunius> Yeah I though more of the forest was on fire
15:03:56 <Avatar-> I had a mountain covered in lava
15:04:17 <Avatar-> and you're talking about 2 trees being a disaster
15:04:34 <Brunius> Yeah I though more of the forest was on fire
15:04:46 <Brunius> I was more worried about protecting my stuff than limiting forest fires
16:15:05 <MekkisScreen> such irresponsibility
16:15:14 <MekkisScreen> ....
16:17:10 <Avatar-> setting forests on fire is fun
16:17:19 <Avatar-> makes for quite a show
16:27:15 <Brunius> Oh yeah
16:27:19 <Brunius> I have 60 diamonds Avatar
16:27:21 <Brunius> You jelly?
16:34:01 <Avatar-> which mine are you using, you snob
16:41:55 <Brunius> My mine.
16:50:44 <Brunius> I'm serious I haven't been anywhere near your mine
17:38:27 <Avatar-> yeah where is your mine
18:19:54 <Ballig> hello long weekend
18:22:13 <Brunius> Long Weekend?
18:22:21 <Brunius> My mine is below my base, Avatar
18:22:25 <Brunius> I told you this.
18:22:41 <Ballig> yes, long weekend
18:22:58 <Brunius> Care to elaborate?
18:23:46 <Ballig> I have a long weekend?
18:25:21 <Brunius> Why?
18:26:49 <Ballig> because monday is a public holiday here
18:26:53 <Avatar> if you told me, it didn't come through on my phone
18:27:15 <Avatar> family and community day? wtf
18:27:18 <Ballig> yeah
18:27:22 <Ballig> it's a canberra holiday
18:27:29 <Ballig> we had another canberra holiday earlier in the year
18:27:32 <Ballig> pretty sweet right
18:27:35 <Ballig> two extra holidays a year
18:27:47 <Ballig> also the monday just gone was labour day in ACT/NSW
18:27:52 <Ballig> so I am getting two long weekends in a row
18:27:55 <Avatar> why on earth does only ACT get that
18:28:01 <Avatar> don't other states have families or communities
18:28:05 <Ballig> apparently not
18:28:42 <Avatar> you could argue every other state has a bigger community than canberra
18:28:42 <Ballig> I'm told they created the day in response to melbourne cup day holiday
18:28:45 <Ballig> and it was on the same day as melbourne cup
18:28:57 <Ballig> but people here got upset that they couldn't go to work on melbourne cup day (because it's common to hold parties and shit at work on that day)
18:29:00 <Ballig> so they moved it to a week before
18:29:04 <Avatar> well here's an idea, make melbourne cup day a national holiday
18:29:14 <Ballig> this isn't a national holiday
18:29:17 <Ballig> it's a canberra holiday
18:29:21 <Ballig> just like melbourne cup day is a melbourne holiday
18:29:24 <Avatar> yeah but it should be national
18:29:25 <Ballig> and adelaide has one that they had last week
18:29:38 <Avatar> make that one national too
18:29:44 <Ballig> ha
18:29:51 <Ballig> so everyone will get three long weekends in a row in october?
18:29:52 <Avatar> what did adelaide have last week
18:29:59 <Ballig> some sports-based holiday
18:30:18 <Avatar> no I don't think so
18:31:09 <Ballig> and I stopped work at 3.30 today
18:31:10 <Ballig> for drinks
18:31:18 <Ballig> it's pretty swish working for the government
18:31:59 <Avatar> I stop work at 3.30 everyday
18:32:04 <Avatar> because why not
18:32:10 <Avatar> I also arrive at about 10.3
18:32:11 <Avatar> 0
18:32:20 <Avatar> and I had lunch with mekkis for about an hour
18:32:31 <Avatar> what does that work out to be
18:32:39 <Ballig> yeah but this was a stop work and then drinks and food supplied by my supervisor's boss's boss's boss
18:32:52 <Avatar> I'm not an alco so I don't care about any of that
18:32:57 <Avatar> in fact that would alienate me
18:32:58 <Ballig> yours is just you're a terrible employee
18:33:08 <Avatar> well they are terrible employers
18:33:10 <Avatar> so I compensating
18:33:13 <Ballig> ha
18:33:16 <Avatar> am*
18:33:26 <Avatar> everyone wins
18:40:13 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure I'm doing equally as good with 20 hiding as I did with 80 hiding
18:57:39 <Ballig> apparently no one has visited my site
18:57:40 <Ballig> :(
18:58:01 <Ballig> oh there we go, now it's telling me 6
18:59:04 <MekkisScreen> your site, ballig?
19:00:10 <Ballig> yeah
19:00:15 <Ballig> I installed google analytics on it yesterday
19:03:38 <Ballig> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mBk-WJ31BE
19:16:22 <MekkisScreen> ah
19:16:31 <MekkisScreen> I should do that
19:16:56 <MekkisScreen> did you hear what bunnyknife said?
19:28:38 <Avatar> man I am not looking forward to tomorrow's early start
19:29:21 <MekkisScreen> this daylight saving thing is nuts
19:43:56 <Brunius> It is
19:44:05 <Brunius> I should send a letter to the local MP complaining.
19:44:46 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: yes
19:48:33 <Avatar> I will get signatures for a petition
19:48:39 <Avatar> down with daylight savings
19:49:04 <Avatar> I can't understand how anyone in their right mind can like it, unless they hate sleeping
19:52:49 <Ballig> it's for people who like to be outside
20:01:16 <Avatar> they can be outside when they're not su pposed to be sleeping
20:02:34 <Ballig> the idea is that with daylight savings they have more daylight after work
20:02:39 <Ballig> of course, they would anyway in summer
20:02:47 <Ballig> and they seem to think that summer would be just like winter without daylight savings, which is bullshit
20:58:02 <Brunius> Avatar - MPs are legal obliged to respond to indiviudal letters
20:58:09 <Brunius> Petitions they can pretty much ignore
21:04:48 <Ballig> I don't think it's a legal obligation
21:04:52 <Ballig> and they don't respond personally
21:04:56 <Ballig> it's usually a member of their staff
21:05:05 <Ballig> I can, for example, respond to letters addressed to the prime minister
21:05:09 <Ballig> assuming it falls within my sphere of influence
21:18:45 <Brunius> Still
21:18:55 <Brunius> They have to get it replied to
21:25:39 <Ballig> yeah but it's by someone who, on the scale of things, isn't really going to change public policy
21:25:49 <Ballig> the only way to get public policy changed, really, is to show public support for that change
21:26:03 <Ballig> which can involve a letter, but only if a LOT of people write those letters
21:44:57 <snypt> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=314 - can someone have a look at that see if i overlooked anything?
21:45:58 <Ballig> does human only get +2 to one stat
21:46:53 <snypt> afaik
21:47:43 <Brunius> Yeah that's right Ballig
21:48:01 <Ballig> sucks to be human
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22:58:29 <Brunius> Maybe.
22:58:37 <Brunius> You do get an extra feat
23:01:12 <Avatar> human ftw
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23:09:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm thinking that I noobed out with my magus
23:09:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> a lot
23:09:30 <Avatar> why on earth take quick draw
23:09:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> skirnir is ok at first glance (get's an arcane bond shield, and spellstrike a level early) but becomes worse than a normal magus, or a different magus archetype at level 4
23:14:51 <Avatar> do you reckon 4 alarms tomorrow morning is enough
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23:15:50 <Brunius> Probably not.
23:15:54 <Brunius> Set another
23:16:33 <Avatar> I can't believe my existing alarms dont' wake me up
23:16:40 <Avatar> they are so fucking loud and painful to hear
23:16:46 <Avatar> right now while I listen
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23:27:49 <Brunius> What I used to do with my alarm is it'd go off, I'd stumble over to it, half-asleep, turn it off, because that was easier than hitting snooze, then stumble back to bed and collapse
23:28:23 <Brunius> No problems.
23:28:26 <Brunius> Night yo
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23:30:31 <Ballig> you can get apps for android/iphone that require you to solve a simple math problem before you can turn the alarm off
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23:55:40 <Avatar> man I don't want to solve math to wake up
23:55:59 <Avatar> not while I'm recovering from being in another world where things don't really make sense in reality
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