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00:24:12 <Mekkis> hey
00:24:20 <Mekkis> I just received the Pathfinder Beginner Box
00:27:22 <Mekkis> should I run something here?
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06:47:16 Ballig1 is now known as Ballig
06:47:55 <Ballig> Mekkis: what's the pathfinder beginner box
07:19:06 <Avatar_> Ballig: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KPv80QsBfI
07:19:43 <Ballig> a 10 minute preview?
07:19:45 <Ballig> I'm not watching this for 10 minutes
07:21:09 <Ballig> Mekkis: does the beginner box have anything we could use for the website
07:21:11 <Ballig> on a getting started page
07:22:22 <Avatar_> it's worth watching
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07:33:11 <Ballig> I don't know that that was worth watching
07:33:19 <Ballig> give me my 10 minutes back
07:33:51 <Avatar> you asked the question and it was worth watching
07:34:07 <Avatar> take a nap if you are still cranky
07:35:37 <Ballig> it wasn't worth watching
07:38:23 <Avatar> http://sea.blizzard.com/en-sg/news/?d=2011-10#220130
07:38:54 <Ballig> will this be worth reading
07:38:55 <Avatar> I think it still might be cheaper and better to just get d3 on its own
07:39:00 <Avatar> no don't read it
07:39:03 <Ballig> okay
07:55:54 <Avatar> morning game would have been better I think
07:57:27 <Ballig> yeah
08:26:13 <Avatar> I don't know how I never noticed this before
08:26:21 <Ballig> hm?
08:26:28 <Avatar> spellcasters can wear mithral leather with no penalty ?
08:26:42 <Avatar> wait, leather can't be made out of mithral can it
08:26:45 <Ballig> if it reduces the arcane check to 0
08:26:47 <Ballig> no
08:26:55 <Ballig> they also need the proficiency
08:26:56 <Avatar> it would reduce the check to 0
08:27:34 <Ballig> but you can't make it out of mithral
08:27:44 <Avatar> I can afford a mithral chain shirt
08:28:01 <Ballig> do you have a spellcaster
08:28:17 <Avatar> Mellon is a wizard
08:28:20 <Avatar> I mean for Buck though
08:29:39 <Ballig> I'm still not sure what to spend my 1k on
08:29:40 <Ballig> or whether to save it
08:29:50 <Ballig> Bobbob won't be playing any more 1-2 tiers though
08:32:02 <Avatar> are we uptiering today
08:33:31 <Avatar> actually I can go with a mithral breastplate
08:33:38 <Avatar> if I can sell some stuff off
08:34:08 <Ballig> you can afford 4k gold?
08:34:16 <Avatar> oh crap that's right
08:34:41 <Avatar> fuck that sucks
08:34:53 <Ballig> yeah
08:34:55 <Ballig> it's insanely expensive
08:35:16 <Avatar> I am still inclined to get it later
08:35:30 <Avatar> but that means I should just put up with garbage armour until then
08:36:05 <Ballig> yeah
08:36:07 <Ballig> that was my option
08:36:18 <Ballig> but you get half of what you spend back anyway
08:36:27 <Ballig> so +1 breastplate now until I can afford +1 mithral full plate is okay
08:36:47 <Avatar> I don't know if it's worth it for +1
08:36:59 <Ballig> it's only like 1k
08:37:07 <Ballig> and that 1 AC could save your life
08:37:20 <Avatar> it could, but seems pretty unlikely
08:37:41 <Avatar> I mean I would get a +1 weapon before then
08:38:04 <Avatar> which I think would be more useful
08:38:47 <Ballig> not unlikely at all
08:38:55 <Ballig> it all adds up
08:39:21 <Avatar> keeping in mind I won't be selling off my weapon later as well
08:39:58 <Avatar> tough choices
08:41:04 <Ballig> I'm considering cloak of resistance
08:41:14 <Avatar> how much is it
08:41:16 <Avatar> 1K?
08:41:49 <Ballig> yeah
08:41:51 <Ballig> for +1 in all saves
08:42:09 <Avatar> the thing with saves is you don't use them all that often
08:42:19 <Ballig> how much do you hate it when you see "roll a will save"
08:42:28 <Avatar> oh yeah I hate it
08:42:49 <Avatar> but again, only +1 isn't going to make your +2 much better
08:42:56 <Avatar> when you're rolling a d20
08:43:03 <Ballig> it all ads up man
08:43:07 <Ballig> you can't just be like "+1 isn't much"
08:43:15 <Ballig> because then you get another +1, and another, and another
08:43:26 <Avatar> do you
08:43:32 <Avatar> do you mean from levelling
08:43:34 <Ballig> from difference sources, yes
08:43:38 <Ballig> different
08:43:45 <Avatar> what other sources
08:43:52 <Avatar> like guidance
08:44:03 <Ballig> which bonus are we discussing?
08:44:07 <Avatar> saves
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08:44:15 <Avatar> will save if you need to be specific
08:44:19 <Ballig> racial, spells, levelling
08:44:24 <Ballig> feats
08:44:26 <Ballig> traits
08:44:40 <Avatar> but that's all innate character stuff, not an external source
08:44:45 <Avatar> not spells
08:44:55 <Avatar> I don't know
08:44:55 <Ballig> doesn't matter the source
08:44:58 <Ballig> why are you discounting sources
08:44:58 <Avatar> it seems like a lot of money for +1
08:45:08 <Ballig> you don't get a +1 in anything for less than 1k man
08:45:23 <Avatar> yeah but a +1 to AC is a lot more useful than +1 to a save
08:45:25 <Eidren> dont you guys ever get +1 loot?
08:45:33 <Avatar> no way man
08:45:39 <Avatar> we get scroll and potions 95% of the time
08:45:53 <Eidren> isn't the loot table random?
08:46:05 <Avatar> there is no loot table in PFS
08:46:06 <Ballig> you were just saying that +1 to AC sucks
08:46:07 <Eidren> you've never beat an npc using a +1 ?
08:46:09 <Avatar> you get what the book says you get
08:46:33 <Ballig> you don't get loot at all in PFS
08:46:33 <Avatar> if an npc drops a +1, you can only use it during that scenario
08:46:34 <Ballig> you have to buy it
08:46:39 <Avatar> which never ends up happening
08:46:43 <Eidren> hahahaha
08:46:45 <Eidren> omg
08:46:46 <Avatar> after that, you give it to the pathfinder society
08:46:49 <Eidren> that is rich
08:46:53 <Avatar> yeah it's rich
08:46:54 <Ballig> that's just how convention play works
08:47:06 <Ballig> so people can't go picking and choosing which scenarios to play to get the phattest loot
08:47:18 <Ballig> the loot has to be normalised, which involves gold rewards instead
08:47:26 <Eidren> my my
08:47:31 <Avatar> it works out, really
08:47:33 <Eidren> how balanced.
08:47:40 <Ballig> it is balanced, that's the point
08:47:53 <Ballig> otherwise you'd have completely decked out characters who simply did some research and played the right scenarios to get the best loot
08:47:54 <Avatar> you can't complain once you get used to it and change your mindset
08:48:10 <Eidren> change my mindset?
08:48:20 <Eidren> i see.
08:48:25 <Eidren> everything has to be uniform.
08:48:26 <Avatar> picking up and keeping weapons that have been used against you
08:48:38 <Ballig> in competition/convention play that's exactly it, Eidren
08:48:39 <Eidren> how very un rpgish
08:48:40 <Ballig> you understand
08:48:52 <Eidren> i understand
08:48:58 <Eidren> the desire to level the playing field
08:49:12 <Eidren> tbh its the same as having phat loot anyway
08:49:17 <Ballig> nope
08:49:18 <Eidren> keep everyone at +0
08:49:20 <Ballig> it's not at all the same
08:49:23 <Eidren> or give everyone +1
08:49:24 <Eidren> LOL
08:49:33 <Ballig> LOL!
08:49:39 <Eidren> seriously
08:49:44 <Ballig> LOL
08:50:04 <Eidren> either everyone has no magical weapons and rely on character based skillsets given to your class
08:50:18 <Ballig> plenty of people have magical weapons
08:50:26 <Ballig> but they buy them with the rewards they received from playing the scenarios
08:50:27 <Eidren> or somehow someone has some amazing loot ends up a no brainer character
08:50:32 <Ballig> instead of receiving them randomly, or not-so-randomly
08:50:53 <Eidren> spoils of war given to the society LOL
08:50:57 <Ballig> LOL
08:51:03 <Eidren> if it goes against my character
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08:51:05 <Ballig> LOL
08:51:08 <Eidren> im forced to do it anyway.
08:51:11 <Ballig> LOL!
08:52:19 <Eidren> it's become wow. a table top game wow style.
08:52:23 <Eidren> hahahaha
08:52:26 <Ballig> it sure has!
08:52:28 <Ballig> hahahaha!
08:52:35 <Ballig> either that or it's convention play, and they are necessary evils
08:52:36 <Ballig> hahahaha!
08:52:37 <Ballig> LOL!
08:52:43 <Eidren> ah well
08:52:52 <Eidren> if you played it then you agreed to it.
08:53:01 <Eidren> but then again there lies the challenge.
08:53:08 <Ballig> LOL
08:53:28 <Eidren> this is why i kept thinking... is this even high fantasy?
08:53:35 <Ballig> hahahaha
08:53:50 <Eidren> what happened to D&D?
08:53:54 <Ballig> LOL
08:53:55 <Eidren> do people still play it?
08:54:45 <Eidren> even the local people in our country seem to be playing pfs.
08:55:04 <Ballig> pfs or pf?
08:55:07 <Ballig> they are two different things
08:55:15 <Eidren> i have no idea. really
08:55:29 <Ballig> pathfinder society (pfs) is the convention play version of pathfinder (pf)
08:55:34 <Ballig> D&D had a similar setup for their convention play
08:55:42 <Eidren> so
08:55:46 <Eidren> if it's convention play
08:55:54 <Eidren> it's uniform
08:56:05 <Ballig> it's the convention play version of pathfinder
08:56:10 <Ballig> just as there was a convention play version of D&D
08:56:14 <Eidren> then there's a pf that's not level capped etc?
08:56:20 <Ballig> of course
08:56:42 <Ballig> there is a pf that has random loot tables, no "society" rules to abide by, that allows you to be evil and pvp
08:56:45 <Eidren> oh if i understand this correctly, the paizo website only credits
08:56:51 <Eidren> convention type games?
08:56:53 <Eidren> correct?
08:56:53 <Ballig> no
08:57:10 <Ballig> pathfinder society is a section of the paizo website, that you access on the navigation bar on the left
08:57:13 <Ballig> the rest is regular pathfinder
08:57:35 <Eidren> so regardless of type of play
08:57:39 <Eidren> be it convention or regular
08:57:50 <Eidren> it recognizes and credits you for it
08:58:00 <Eidren> if you finisht he scenario etc?
08:58:02 <Ballig> you only need "credit" for society
08:58:15 <Eidren> sigh
08:58:18 <Ballig> everything else you play like any other tabletop RPG
08:58:21 <Eidren> it ws so much simpler before lol
08:58:27 <Ballig> it's exactly the same man
08:58:29 <Eidren> i only knew 3 other dms
08:58:31 <Ballig> you just weren't aware of the D&D convention rules
08:58:36 <Eidren> yes
08:58:43 <Eidren> we never really went to conventions
08:58:56 <Eidren> we had a similar uniform guildine
08:58:59 <Ballig> it's a set of rules that allows for an even playfield no matter who is DMing
08:59:02 <Eidren> to keep it level
08:59:21 <Ballig> otherwise you can't have a campaign that spans hundreds of DMs
08:59:35 <Eidren> what i didn't know they made it public and actually had it polished into an effective guidline
08:59:47 <Eidren> to use for conventions etc
09:00:10 <Eidren> we never did, some campaigns were not compatible with certain dms
09:00:11 <Eidren> lol
09:00:28 <Ballig> usually a DM runs a campaign and another DM runs a different campaign with different characters
09:00:38 <Eidren> i miss the flavours though
09:00:42 <Ballig> convention play necessarily requires any DM to be able to run it, which is why the rules are stricter
09:00:46 <Eidren> pf seems so... standard? lol
09:00:54 <Ballig> you're talking about pfs
09:00:58 <Ballig> pf is exactly the same as D&D
09:01:07 <Ballig> pfs is exactly the same as D&D's convention/competition rules
09:01:12 <Eidren> pf has a multiverse?
09:01:19 <Ballig> of course
09:01:31 <Eidren> pf and dnd do not overlap though?
09:01:43 <Ballig> you can run pathfinder games in the D&D worlds if you want
09:01:48 <Eidren> completely different. yes?
09:02:03 <Ballig> the underlying rules, but not the campaign settings
09:02:16 <Eidren> why have they not be sued for copyright infringement?
09:02:29 <Ballig> because the rules are under the Open Gaming Licence
09:02:45 <Ballig> it's why you can get free source reference documents for both D&D and pathfinder - the rules themselves aren't copyright
09:03:08 <Eidren> nice
09:03:14 <Eidren> then there are other companies
09:03:21 <Eidren> making these types of rpgs too
09:03:27 <Ballig> wouldn't surprise me
09:04:34 <Eidren> do you get to keep the gold you get from scenarios?
09:04:46 <Ballig> you get awarded gold
09:04:50 <Ballig> that's what you use to buy your equipment
09:04:55 <Eidren> like if it's orc's hideout etc and they had tons of crap there
09:04:59 <Eidren> that could be sold for money
09:05:06 <Ballig> you get a set amount at the end of the scenario
09:05:12 <Ballig> you can't increase that by pillaging
09:05:16 <Eidren> lol i remember hauling off everything that isn't nailed down
09:05:23 <Eidren> every penny counts.
09:05:29 <Eidren> wtf
09:05:32 <Eidren> lol
09:05:38 <Ballig> if they allowed that, DMs would be awarding thousands of gold for people who decide to pillage entire temples
09:05:57 <Eidren> OMG pillage burn burn burn!
09:06:00 <Ballig> and there's no way for, three scenarios down the road, there to be any possible consequence of it
09:06:04 <Ballig> so people would just pillage everything in sight
09:06:07 <Ballig> no consequences, lots of gold
09:06:08 <Eidren> but the gods frown upon those kinds of things...
09:06:09 <Eidren> lol
09:06:22 <Ballig> why would that matter if it's an entirely new DM two scenarios down the line?
09:06:26 <Ballig> he's not going to know they pillaged a temple
09:06:32 <Ballig> that's why you can't do that sort of thing in convention play
09:06:36 <Eidren> eww
09:06:38 <Ballig> while you can in regular play
09:06:41 <Eidren> honesty?
09:06:42 <Ballig> because it's the same DM, who can assign consequences
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09:07:02 <Eidren> so you don't tell the dm what you've done in the previous scenario
09:07:03 <Eidren> ?
09:07:21 <Ballig> no
09:07:22 <Ballig> why would you?
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09:07:38 <Ballig> you'd spend six hours describing every scenario you've been in
09:07:42 <Ballig> every time you wanted to play a game
09:08:08 <Eidren> we usually keep a history anything of note.
09:08:30 <Eidren> like he killed this guy, destroyed this keep, raped this maiden or that sheep.
09:08:46 <Eidren> lol character history anyone?
09:08:51 <Ballig> a DM can't read over all that for 4-6 characters every time he tries to run a game
09:09:10 <Eidren> you have several days to prepare a game.
09:09:17 <Ballig> no you don't
09:09:24 <Eidren> usually read up on your players too.
09:09:27 <Ballig> nope
09:09:31 <Ballig> that's not how it works at all
09:09:35 <Eidren> ah convention is this what you are talking about?
09:09:40 <Ballig> I think you have some fundamental misconceptions about convention play
09:09:54 <Eidren> i was not thinking about convention play at all sorry
09:10:00 <Eidren> i apologize for the confusion
09:10:06 <Ballig> with regular play it's not an issue because you have the same DM
09:10:08 <Eidren> i was thinking of just regular play.
09:10:11 <Ballig> who already knows the character histories because he DMed it
09:10:14 <Eidren> not really
09:10:30 <Eidren> 4 other dms i guess you'd still term that
09:10:35 <Eidren> as the same ?
09:10:41 <Eidren> like with your group?
09:10:44 <Ballig> DMs generally don't share campaigns
09:10:53 <Eidren> im sure you guys know pretty much your players already yes?
09:11:12 <Ballig> you're in singapore?
09:12:10 <Eidren> no worse
09:12:12 <Eidren> philipines
09:12:17 <Eidren> waaaay worse
09:12:22 <Ballig> whyh is that worse
09:12:31 <Eidren> we fall behind in terms of updates
09:12:36 <Ballig> filipina girls are hot
09:12:41 <Eidren> and have a very small player pool/following
09:12:48 <Eidren> yes girls and booze we have tons
09:12:51 <Eidren> and also nice beachers
09:12:53 <Eidren> beaches
09:13:04 <Eidren> cost of living is dirt cheap.
09:13:57 <Ballig> send some filipina girls my way
09:14:00 <Eidren> this country is comparable to a high con warrior with negative int and not even ave str lol
09:14:21 <Eidren> come visit! it's like an hour or two away by plane.
09:14:37 <Ballig> if I throw enough money around how many girls can I get to follow me back
09:15:00 <Eidren> depends on how you look like. you may not even need to throw money around.
09:15:18 <Eidren> foreigners are highly sought after by filipinas.
09:15:55 <Eidren> filipina + anything foreign = good looking children lol
09:16:28 <Eidren> omg
09:16:31 <Eidren> this is terrible.
09:16:32 <Eidren> lol
09:16:36 <Eidren> what am i saying.
09:16:48 <Ballig> do you have a sister
09:17:03 <Eidren> i do have a half sister
09:17:04 <Eidren> lol
09:17:20 <Ballig> is she hot
09:17:35 <Eidren> lol i wouldn't know.
09:17:49 <Eidren> i don't think you think of your kin that way
09:17:54 <Eidren> or should even consider.
09:18:40 <Ballig> I make 3.1 million philippine peso a year, is that enough to get some hot filipina chicks
09:19:11 <Eidren> yes. when you say chicks
09:19:12 <Eidren> how many?
09:19:28 <Eidren> you think you can handle more than 1?
09:19:36 <Eidren> are you looking to commit or just play?
09:19:43 <Eidren> lol
09:19:51 <Ballig> if I could get one that can cook, one that can clean, and one that is great in bed
09:19:52 <Ballig> I'll be set
09:20:05 <Eidren> you can have all of those in 1
09:20:28 <Ballig> could I get all those in one, but three of them
09:20:33 <Eidren> depends on the social status
09:20:40 <Eidren> then you want servants
09:20:41 <Eidren> lol
09:20:53 <Ballig> isn't that what women are
09:21:09 <Eidren> true.
09:21:29 <Eidren> a harem of 3
09:21:38 <Eidren> they will want a commitment of sorts
09:22:09 <Ballig> I couldn't legally marry all three of them here
09:22:13 <Eidren> will you live here with them? of bring them there?
09:22:22 <Eidren> there is no need for marriage here in this country
09:22:27 <Eidren> it's merely a formality
09:23:16 <Eidren> bonds made through the course of the relationship prove much stronger than any wedding vow or legality made through lawyers.
09:23:23 <Eidren> attachments etc the usual
09:23:41 <Ballig> I work here, I can't live there!
09:24:03 <Eidren> well then you'll have to take em with you
09:24:08 <Eidren> or just choose 1
09:24:22 <Eidren> or house 3 of em separately and visit em whenever you want.
09:24:37 <Ballig> haha
09:24:38 <Eidren> that's what rich people usually do
09:24:45 <Eidren> give em a place to live in and allowance
09:24:50 <Eidren> then just visit em when ever
09:25:03 <Ballig> is 3.1 million peso a year rich there
09:25:04 <Eidren> common practice here.
09:25:33 <Eidren> your social standing would be at a C
09:25:49 <Ballig> what would I need to make it a B
09:26:02 <Eidren> live here and know the right people lol
09:26:11 <Ballig> are you a B
09:26:21 <Eidren> im a c. formerly b
09:26:37 <Ballig> so if you earn 3.1 million peso a year, why are you trying to steal pathfinder books
09:26:40 <Eidren> i left my family
09:26:55 <Eidren> i don't earn 3.1 million pesos a year.
09:27:02 <Ballig> what do you earn
09:27:36 <Eidren> 300k +180k from my property
09:27:51 <Eidren> you are converting your money to ours.
09:27:57 <Ballig> ofc
09:28:00 <Eidren> if i were to convert your paygrade to ours.
09:28:01 <Ballig> I don't get paid in peso
09:28:05 <Eidren> it would be much lower.
09:28:31 <Eidren> im already at managerial level
09:28:41 <Eidren> if i were to go there and work for a casino or hotel
09:28:47 <Eidren> i'd be earning a lot more lol
09:29:22 <Ballig> do they pay you in chips
09:29:25 <Eidren> i have some friends there who keep 2 jobs at the same time which is highly irregular here in this country.
09:29:34 <Eidren> ballig that doesnt make sense
09:29:39 <Eidren> if they paid me in chips
09:29:41 <Ballig> you workf or a casino right
09:29:44 <Eidren> i'd just cash it out.
09:29:49 <Eidren> no i don't lol
09:31:00 <Ballig> I want to be paid in chips
09:32:10 <Eidren> ok
09:32:14 <Eidren> ...
09:32:35 <Ballig> what :(
09:33:26 <Eidren> im bored.
09:33:32 <Eidren> i think i'll sleep instead.
09:35:07 <Ballig> play ragnarok
09:35:11 <Ballig> with the diaper-wearing cat
09:35:42 <Eidren> im going to play orcs must die
09:35:55 <Eidren> i'll change the name to Ballig must die.
09:36:35 <Ballig> :(
09:36:54 <Eidren> =)
09:37:28 <Ballig> and I thought we were close. you even got topless for me on cam
09:38:19 <Eidren> im always topless at home lol
09:38:29 <Eidren> it's hot here
09:38:34 <Eidren> even with AC
09:39:43 <Eidren> lol i wonder how you look like.
09:39:49 <Eidren> not orcish are you?
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09:43:01 <Ballig> very orcish
09:43:10 <Eidren> provide a picture.
09:43:22 <Avatar> now I have all the parts for a new machine
09:43:23 <Eidren> you've seen me.
09:43:32 <Eidren> machine?
09:43:56 <Avatar> computer
09:44:08 <Eidren> what specs?
09:44:11 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/ZMNr6.png
09:44:25 <Eidren> lol
09:44:40 <Eidren> got something off google did you?
09:44:49 <Ballig> no that's me
09:44:55 <Ballig> but I've changed my hair since then
09:45:00 <Ballig> it's not in a topknot anymore
09:45:07 <Eidren> lol
09:45:24 <Avatar> it's uh
09:45:25 <Avatar> I don't remember
09:45:30 <Eidren> even with lots of money filipina women wouldn't go out with you then.
09:45:34 <Avatar> 8gb ram, i7 processor
09:45:48 <Ballig> is it because of my teeth
09:45:54 <Eidren> yes
09:45:57 <Ballig> oh :(
09:46:08 <Eidren> your teeth and everything else
09:46:15 <Eidren> related to you lol
09:46:15 <Avatar> radeon HD6850
09:46:38 <Avatar> i7 2600 3.4ghz 8mb quad core
09:46:45 <Avatar> cpu
09:46:53 <Eidren> lol we have the same rig
09:46:56 <Eidren> cept for the video card
09:47:19 <Avatar> is yours better
09:47:25 <Eidren> i have no idea
09:47:38 <Avatar> well what isit
09:48:08 <Eidren> what's teh command to check my specs
09:48:29 <Eidren> config something
09:48:31 <Eidren> >_<
09:49:44 <Avatar> hold down alt and double click my computer
09:50:37 <Eidren> nvidia geforce gt 430
09:50:40 <Eidren> 4 gigs
09:50:45 <Eidren> is that any good?
09:50:49 <Ballig> it's fine
09:50:51 <Ballig> not as good as 8gb though
09:51:16 <Eidren> well 8 gigs of ram i7 2600k
09:51:36 <Eidren> i was told to run windows 7 64 to get the most out of the ram
09:51:50 <Eidren> otherwise it would have been useless
09:52:29 <Avatar> I probably got a little too excited with this purchase
09:52:34 <Avatar> bought it a little earlier than I needed
09:52:34 <Eidren> have you tried playing ballig must die?
09:53:37 <Eidren> i need to learn how to maximize my computer's potential
09:53:53 <Eidren> very high graphics still slow down
09:54:06 <Eidren> specially with there are tons of balligs on screen needing to be killed.
09:54:19 <Avatar> somehow I missed that my case doesn't have a side window
09:54:21 <Avatar> that will suck a bit
09:54:47 <Eidren> ohh
09:55:03 <Eidren> i got my a nice case with a huge fan etc
09:55:25 <Eidren> are you going for the cooling system with tubes and water i think?
09:55:35 <Eidren> or was that gel
09:55:39 <Eidren> >_<
09:55:41 <Ballig> I have an antec 1200
09:55:44 <Ballig> it's awesome
09:55:45 <Avatar> just fans
09:57:55 <Ballig> http://www.hplcomputers.co.za/43-thickbox/antec-1200-twelve-hundred-with-windowed-side-panel.jpg
09:57:56 <Ballig> that's my case
09:58:19 <Avatar> looks very similar to the one I have now
09:58:36 <Avatar> I think I've got an older version of that
09:59:07 <Avatar> that one seems higher, I've only got two front fans
09:59:15 <Ballig> you might have the antec 600
09:59:31 <Ballig> or uh, one of the other numbers
09:59:37 <Eidren> why do you need front fans?
09:59:39 <Avatar> no that's not it
09:59:53 <Ballig> more fans the better
09:59:56 <Ballig> keep your hard drives cool
10:00:01 <Avatar> when I bought my current case I wanted maximum cooling
10:00:03 <Ballig> overheating is the main cause of hard drive failure
10:00:06 <Avatar> without water cooling
10:00:14 <Avatar> I used to play wow and would get overheat
10:00:17 <Avatar> in brisbane
10:00:21 <Avatar> stupid summer heat
10:00:29 <Avatar> so it got to the point I couldn't play my games
10:00:32 <Ballig> yeah before getting this computer I had a hard drive die from the heat in dubbo
10:00:33 <Eidren> wow it must even be hotter in your country then
10:00:44 <Avatar> 32 degree heat-ish
10:00:45 <Avatar> humid
10:00:47 <Eidren> you guys use AC yes?
10:00:51 <Ballig> dubbo was 41ish dry
10:00:53 <Avatar> no
10:01:00 <Eidren> omg
10:01:01 <Ballig> I don't
10:01:04 <Eidren> i'd die there.
10:01:09 <Ballig> AC is used
10:01:11 <Ballig> I just don't
10:01:13 <Avatar> it's colder in melbourne
10:01:16 <Avatar> so it's less of an issue
10:01:17 <Ballig> I did for a year in Dubbo, but didn't bother bringing it here
10:01:19 <Ballig> and it's colder here
10:01:32 <Avatar> about 18 degrees here now, mid spring
10:01:44 <Avatar> my phone says 13 but that can't be right
10:01:46 <Ballig> 20 right now
10:02:00 <Ballig> 14 in melbourne
10:02:05 <Avatar> maybe it is
10:02:14 <Avatar> feels like 18
10:02:27 <Avatar> probably not outside
10:03:27 <Avatar> is there some special importance to having a magic weapon
10:03:44 <Eidren> bypassing DR?
10:03:53 <Eidren> it's shinier?
10:03:56 <Eidren> glowy?
10:04:03 <Eidren> efficient?
10:04:11 <Eidren> doesn't get dirty?
10:04:16 <Avatar> magic weapons bypass DR?
10:04:18 <Ballig> not much DR is /magic anymore
10:04:20 <Eidren> or dull
10:04:27 <Ballig> it will bypass DR only if it's listed as -/magic
10:04:32 <Eidren> no more +1 dr?
10:04:35 <Ballig> 3.0 was more about bypassing DR
10:04:42 <Ballig> where it would be listed as -/+2
10:04:43 <Ballig> for example
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10:04:48 <Avatar> this guide says by level 3 you should have your weapon magicked or a way to magic it
10:04:53 <Avatar> but I don't think that's hugely necessary
10:05:05 <Avatar> to the point of carrying around scrolls of magic weapon with you? I don't think so
10:05:28 <Ballig> it's useful for me
10:05:31 <Ballig> gives me +3 damage
10:05:39 <Ballig> (remember that a magic weapon also increases your damage)
10:05:42 <Avatar> how
10:05:46 <Avatar> you already have +2 damage
10:05:47 <Avatar> ?
10:05:49 <Ballig> lanced charge is x3
10:05:52 <Avatar> oh
10:05:57 <Avatar> yeah that's good I guess
10:05:59 <Ballig> so the +1 to damage from a magic weapon becomes +3
10:06:01 <Avatar> wait, I have a lance too now
10:06:14 <Ballig> are you remembering your +1 for higher ground on your horse
10:06:16 <Ballig> with melee weapons
10:06:19 <Avatar> of course not
10:06:28 <Avatar> +1 to attack yeah
10:06:29 <canine> hey
10:06:32 <Ballig> yeah
10:06:33 <Avatar> canine
10:06:43 <Avatar> mekkis wake up we're ready to play
10:07:00 <canine> still early isn't it?
10:07:01 <Eidren> mekkizzzzzz
10:07:09 <Avatar> yeah the game isn't for another 3.5 hrs
10:07:18 <Avatar> 11am here, 10am where mekkis is
10:07:25 <Eidren> it's disgusting.. my character's been reduced to a halfling.
10:07:33 <Avatar> disgusting
10:07:36 <Ballig> DISGUSTING
10:07:43 <Avatar> filthy little halflingses
10:07:48 <Eidren> LOL
10:07:53 <Ballig> LOL
10:07:58 <Ballig> hahahaha
10:08:19 <Eidren> that made me spill my drink hahaha
10:08:56 <Avatar> Eidren: didn't you used to have a h in your name
10:09:23 <Eidren> ha?
10:09:24 <Ballig> I think that was his brother
10:09:26 <Avatar> and where is mort and nodwik and athena, are they coming
10:09:42 <Avatar> mort was pretty excited last weekend, now she is nowhere to be seen
10:09:46 <Eidren> ballig needs to be slain.
10:09:53 <Ballig> she will only show up on sundays apparently
10:09:56 <Eidren> over and over and over...
10:10:00 <Avatar> what is that about
10:10:07 <Ballig> she works saturdays
10:10:09 <Avatar> let's not play tomorrow to teach her a lesson
10:10:18 <Avatar> dumb work
10:10:22 <Ballig> she's like half a snypt
10:10:35 <Avatar> half a snypt
10:10:50 <Avatar> that one might be lost on me
10:11:45 <Ballig> snypt works weekends
10:11:55 <Ballig> mort works one day on the weekend
10:12:04 <Ballig> so.. half the weekend
10:14:00 <Avatar> bloody snypt
10:14:04 <Avatar> I thought he was quitting
10:14:08 <Avatar> his job
10:14:08 <Ballig> ha
10:14:15 <Ballig> apparently he'd rather work nights and weekends in a pizza store
10:14:17 <Ballig> than in an office
10:14:19 <Ballig> can you imagine that
10:14:27 <Avatar> I can appreciate that
10:14:30 <Ballig> I can't
10:14:31 <Avatar> forget having to wake up at 9am
10:14:34 <Avatar> well
10:14:37 <Ballig> weekends man
10:14:38 <Avatar> wake up at 8am
10:14:43 <Avatar> yeah
10:14:44 <Avatar> that would suck
10:14:50 <Ballig> I'm fine with working nights
10:14:51 <Ballig> but not weekends
10:14:53 <Ballig> and not in a pizza store
10:14:54 <Avatar> only because everyone gets weekends
10:15:02 <Avatar> if everyone got 2 random days off, that would be fine
10:15:09 <Ballig> no it wouldn't
10:15:12 <Ballig> you need the same days off
10:15:13 <Avatar> yes it would
10:15:17 <Ballig> as everyone else
10:15:25 <Avatar> yeah you do
10:15:29 <Avatar> but if that wasn't the case
10:15:32 <Avatar> and everyone got 2 random days off
10:15:36 <Avatar> it would be no issue
10:15:42 <Ballig> it would be a huge issue
10:15:53 <Ballig> you'd never get to do anything that involved anyone else
10:15:59 <Ballig> because your days off are monday and tuesday, and theirs are friday and saturday
10:16:06 <Avatar> but you wouldn't have a choice and everyone would be in the same boat
10:16:06 <Brunius> Mmmmm
10:16:15 <Ballig> it doesn't matter if there's choice or boats
10:16:17 <Ballig> the point is you are efucked
10:16:22 <Avatar> now you have some people like snypt getting fucked over
10:16:22 <Ballig> even if everyone else is fucked too
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10:16:24 <Ballig> that's not "okay"
10:16:29 <Brunius> Until one person decided "Hey, Monday and Tuesday shall be everyone's free days"
10:16:36 <Brunius> Then everyone gets the same days.
10:16:48 <Brunius> Eventually, someone will decide on a universal day for time off
10:17:01 <Ballig> of course they would, because otherwise it would suck
10:17:02 <Avatar> well they already did
10:17:04 <Avatar> saturday and sunday
10:17:17 <Brunius> So why are you arguing that people should get two random days?
10:17:20 <Avatar> but what about if we need milk
10:17:32 <Avatar> what if there's no milk for cereal on saturday morning
10:17:34 <Avatar> what then
10:17:46 <Avatar> we are screwed until monday
10:17:50 <Ballig> that makes no sense
10:17:54 <Ballig> you are making no sense
10:17:59 <Ballig> strawman logical fallacy
10:18:00 <Avatar> it makes perfect sense
10:18:01 <canine> robots, duh
10:18:08 <Avatar> robots, zing
10:18:18 <Avatar> we didn't have robots back when they decided to open shop on saturday
10:23:54 <Avatar> loaded dice is only 50gp
10:24:02 <Avatar> we should go gambling
10:24:15 <Brunius> Marked cards are like 5gp, IIRC
10:24:18 <Avatar> that's superior loaded dice, not average loaded dice which is 10gp
10:24:27 <Avatar> marked cards are 1gp
10:24:44 <Ballig> can we buy superior loaded dice and then use them in combat
10:25:44 <Avatar> how
10:25:49 <Avatar> as a thrown weapon
10:25:56 <Ballig> I mean instead of our own dice
10:26:08 <Ballig> we'll load them on the 20, ofc
10:26:13 <Avatar> I don't think it works that way
10:26:17 <Avatar> character dice, not player dice
10:26:29 <Ballig> my character has hitdice
10:26:35 <canine> we could buy a bunch of dice and some parchment and start a game of dnd though
10:27:39 <Avatar> yeah
10:27:46 <Avatar> our characters could play d&d
10:28:07 <Avatar> with loaded dice
10:28:14 <canine> superior loaded dice.
10:28:18 <canine> may as well go all out on it.
10:28:22 <Brunius> Hahaha
10:30:30 <Brunius> Reminds me of that warhammer model that someone made
10:30:38 <Brunius> http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2010/7/17/121289_md-Humor,%20Painting,%20Space%20Marines,%20Ultramarines.jpg
12:10:56 <Brunius> Who is DMing today?
12:11:47 <Ballig> what does the topic say
12:14:15 <Brunius> Mekkis.
12:14:25 <Ballig> oh, it's meant to say Avatar
12:14:29 <Ballig> ha ha, just kidding. it's Mekkis
12:14:30 <Brunius> Is that who DMs the PFS scenario, the person mentioned in the topic?
12:15:50 <Ballig> this time it is
12:15:56 <Ballig> it's the first time it's been mentioned
12:16:09 <Ballig> because Avatar, Mekkis and I have DMed games recently so it might be confusing if it doesnt' say who
12:16:46 <Mekkis> what was I running again?
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12:17:03 <Ballig> dunno
12:17:05 <Ballig> what were you running
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12:29:31 <MekkisScreen> do you need a loaded dice option in diebot?
12:30:02 <canine> i might have to ditch early on this tonight
12:30:28 <canine> i.e. this afternoon.
12:35:28 <Ballig> yeah that's why we wanted a morning game
12:36:54 <canine> earlier the better as far as I'm concerned
12:45:50 <Brunius> Yeah, I'm not gonna play today
12:49:42 <Avatar> are you ready to go mekkis
12:49:46 <Mekkis> no
13:32:45 <Ballig> .
13:33:00 <Avatar> .
13:41:45 <Mekkis> who's here
13:41:50 <Ballig> I'm here
13:41:53 <Avatar> yep
13:41:58 <Mekkis> who else
13:42:11 <Ballig> we had like three other people 4-5 hours ago
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14:01:35 <MekkisScreen> so it's a no go then?
14:02:40 <Ballig> unless you can take us back in time by 5 hours and start then
14:05:18 <MekkisScreen> I'm not DMing on Saturday morning
14:05:44 <canine> I can play for a bit if you want to do the first hour or so of a module
14:05:59 <canine> I'd planned to be up for a whole one but its been a long, long day.
14:08:02 <MekkisScreen> there's a chance I can run something tomorrow morning..:
14:08:03 <Ballig> can't you take drugs
14:08:21 <canine> fresh out of ketamine, sorry.
14:10:19 <Ballig> isn't ketamine a tranquiliser
14:11:17 <canine> note my tiredness.
14:11:23 <canine> I said the first one that came to mind.
14:11:33 <canine> but yes.
14:11:44 <canine> Not that I use it.
14:13:11 <Ballig> what about a redbull
14:13:59 <canine> Don't drink the stuff. But I'm out of caffeine drinks in general
14:14:38 <MekkisScreen> want me to start it at 9am tomorrow then?
14:14:52 <Avatar> I'm fine with that
14:14:56 <Avatar> I've been waking up early anyway
14:14:57 <canine> if you're good for it, thats perfect for me
14:15:07 <Avatar> I think uh
14:15:08 <MekkisScreen> (that's 10am your time)
14:15:11 <Avatar> eidren is 3 hours behind us
14:15:13 <MekkisScreen> AEST
14:15:26 <Ballig> I really don't expect eidren to go well with PFS
14:15:31 <Avatar> he joined at 9.43am today
14:15:39 <Avatar> you reckon
14:15:44 <Ballig> not being able to keep loot or pillage temples apparently makes it like an MMORPG to him
14:15:57 <Avatar> that's only because he hasn't played it
14:16:36 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: can you explain how sanctioned modules work
14:17:26 <canine> pillaging is half the fun of an rpg :/
14:17:44 <MekkisScreen> I'll try
14:19:50 <canine> You can't call a game an RPG unless your characters are able to build a fortress of doom to terrorize the local peasants while maintaining their chaotic neutral alignments.
14:20:37 <Ballig> that seems pretty narrowly defined
14:21:06 <canine> I'm a picky person.
14:21:28 <Ballig> shadowrun calls itself an RPG
14:22:03 <canine> Although there is the Castle Builder's Guidebook for 3.0 which gives complete rules for building and paying for your very own fortress.
14:22:16 <canine> or maybe it was Fortress Builder's Guidebook
14:23:09 <Ballig> I used that to build the tower in SoTo
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15:03:01 <Mekkis> Ballig, we never saw that tower, right?
15:03:12 <Ballig> right
15:04:00 <Mekkis> Ballig, you right for PFS tomorrow, 10am AEDT?
15:04:18 <Ballig> yeah
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15:04:48 <Mekkis> please could you change the topic to reflect it then
15:04:57 <Zerib> Hello
15:04:58 <Mekkis> I've lost my +o due to a netsplit
15:05:01 <Mekkis> hi Zerib
15:05:06 <Ballig> sup zerib
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15:08:04 Ballig has changed the topic to: PFS: Sun 23rd 10am (Mekkis) |LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
15:14:44 <Ballig> why are th ere two scenarios called before the dawn part I
15:15:08 <Ballig> huh, typo on the chronicle sheet of part 2
15:15:22 <Zerib> Was there still a game?
15:16:31 <Ballig> there was going to be a game 2 hours ago but we only had me and Avatar here
15:17:59 <Zerib> ouch
15:23:11 <Avatar> this morning there was 5 of us
15:23:14 <Ballig> yeah
15:23:16 <Avatar> where were you
15:23:17 <Ballig> 5 of us
15:23:44 <Avatar> I thought you wanted to play zerib
15:23:46 <Avatar> what's going on
15:24:08 <Zerib> Like I said I just got home from work
15:24:22 <Ballig> did you say that
15:24:36 <Zerib> no when he and I talked before
15:24:50 <Avatar> I don't remember anything beyond 5 minutes ago
15:25:00 <Avatar> except that we had 5 players this morning and by 2.30pm we had 2
15:25:04 <Ballig> season 2 chronicles are up
15:25:10 <Avatar> I remember that
15:25:12 <Zerib> I was told we were going to play at 2 am my time or at 4 my time
15:25:24 <Avatar> 2.30pm was 2 hours ago
15:25:31 <Avatar> what time is it there now
15:26:25 <Ballig> Zerib: I think we said those are times we often play
15:26:31 <Ballig> did someone give you that time as specifically for a game today
15:27:14 <Ballig> we could probably play now if Mekkis wanted to GM
15:28:38 <Avatar> are you playing tonight zerib
15:28:52 <Zerib> What time would it be?
15:29:03 <Zerib> I am getting so confused by the different times
15:29:13 <Avatar> LSK is in 2.5 hours
15:29:18 <Ballig> is it
15:29:39 <Ballig> who still plays in LSK
15:29:51 <Avatar> mekkis, kapow, and zerib's subbing for shadow_mask
15:30:01 <Ballig> does kapow still show up
15:30:06 <Avatar> kapow just said he'd be 20 minutes late
15:30:10 <Avatar> so make it 3 hours
15:37:03 <Avatar> `op
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15:37:32 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sun 23rd 10am (Mekkis) |LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7.30pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
15:41:47 <Brunius> canine, I recall there being castle building rules in OD&D
15:41:59 <Brunius> Not sure about anything after that.
15:53:35 <Avatar> canine's gone man
15:55:20 <Ballig> dave's not here man
16:06:51 <Avatar> not sure why I bought civ5
16:06:56 <Avatar> that game just burns time
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16:07:17 <Avatar> it's not even that much fun
16:21:15 <Brunius> So why do you play it?
16:38:19 <Mekkis> anyone planning on playing a Taldan?
16:40:25 <Ballig> Bobbob belongs to the taldor faction
16:41:00 <Brunius> Kaleb is Taldan
17:07:24 <Brunius> Mekkis: I'm looking for information about the Pathfinder campaign setting. Suggestions for purchases?
17:08:38 <Brunius> Paizo needs to stop publishing cool stuff
17:08:41 <Brunius> I want to buy it all.
17:34:37 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/w8vst.jpg
17:56:41 <Mekkis> Brunius, Pathfinder Campaign Setting
17:56:43 <Mekkis> to start with
17:56:47 <Mekkis> Inner Sea World Guide
18:19:30 <Avatar> zerib had best be coming back
18:23:01 <Ballig> that eredain guy is on skype
18:23:23 <Avatar> what's his story
18:23:27 <Ballig> what about it
18:23:41 <Avatar> well it's probably not very impressive
18:23:47 <Avatar> to begin with
18:24:00 <Ballig> what
18:24:24 <Avatar> think about it
18:24:39 <Ballig> think about what
18:42:30 <MekkisScreen> grrr
18:42:37 <MekkisScreen> running a bit late
18:45:41 <Ballig> grrr
18:47:55 <Avatar> no rush, kapow is late too
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18:55:43 <Avatar> snypt
18:55:48 <Avatar> play in LSK yeah
18:56:01 <Ballig> I did mention it to eredain
18:56:09 <Ballig> and he said he'd go for it if he's around
18:56:17 <Avatar> what does that mean
18:56:18 <snypt> sarp?
18:56:23 <Avatar> if he's around
18:56:29 <Avatar> if he said it that means he's around doesn't it
18:57:12 <Ballig> well, I first said "if he's around" and then he echoed it and did a smiley
18:57:16 <Ballig> so I don't know if he was just mocking me
18:58:10 <snypt> mocking the shit out of you
18:58:13 <snypt> wanker
18:58:31 <snypt> <3
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18:58:48 <Avatar> eidren are you stepping in
18:58:54 <Eidren> ballig must die!
18:58:57 <Avatar> I am about to harass kapow
18:59:31 <Eidren> what am i supposed to do? are they playing
18:59:32 <Eidren> ?
18:59:48 <Avatar> have you played 3.5 before
18:59:49 <Avatar> d&d 3.5
18:59:58 <Eidren> no
19:00:14 <Avatar> what have you played
19:00:21 <Eidren> 3.0
19:00:28 <Avatar> okay that's plenty good enough
19:00:30 <Eidren> ~_~
19:00:31 <Avatar> this is your sheet: http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=247
19:00:45 <Eidren> wut?
19:00:46 <Eidren> why?
19:00:52 <Ballig> because you're subbing
19:00:52 <Avatar> what do you mean why
19:00:55 <Eidren> omg 2 ft 11
19:00:58 <Eidren> wtf? lol
19:01:02 <Avatar> he's a halfling
19:01:06 <Eidren> ah well
19:01:16 <Avatar> aren't halflings that tall in 3.0?
19:01:17 <Eidren> fine fine
19:01:33 <Avatar> sorry, weren't you the one who was in here earlier today saying you wanted to pillage a temple
19:01:45 <Avatar> this is a full on campaign that allows you to do that
19:01:53 <Avatar> and here you are you are complaining about character height
19:01:55 <Avatar> what's going on
19:02:13 <Eidren> lol
19:02:20 <Eidren> my what deadly spells i have
19:02:26 <Eidren> let's go on
19:02:34 <Eidren> seems to be a utility support/cc character
19:02:44 <Avatar> just waiting on our cleric to arrive
19:02:46 <Ballig> heh, cc
19:02:48 <Avatar> I have SMS'd him
19:02:53 <Avatar> what is cc
19:03:00 <Ballig> crowd control
19:03:02 <Ballig> it's an MMORPG term
19:03:03 <Brunius> I will play.
19:03:05 <Brunius> I am a cleric.
19:03:08 <Brunius> Rawr.
19:03:17 <Avatar> kapow did say he'd be here
19:03:20 <Avatar> if he doesn't show, you can play him
19:03:26 <Eidren> >_<
19:03:26 <Mekkis> I'm in now
19:03:30 <Brunius> I was kidding
19:03:36 <Brunius> I don't want to play kapows character
19:03:39 <Avatar> don't lie
19:03:40 <Brunius> Not if we're starting this late.
19:03:51 <Avatar> you think any time is late
19:03:51 <Eidren> 8pm yes?
19:03:58 <Eidren> how long do your campaigns last?
19:04:06 <Avatar> the other guy is like 30-60 mins late
19:04:10 <Avatar> 3-4 hours
19:04:43 <Eidren> omg
19:05:03 <Avatar> that's standard man
19:05:04 <Avatar> what's wrong
19:07:04 <Avatar> ????????
19:09:08 <Ballig> ???????
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19:09:28 <Ballig> that answers that
19:11:02 <Avatar> good grief
19:11:15 <Avatar> no reply from kapow the joker
19:11:38 <Avatar> he messaged me this afternoon to confirm the time and say he would be late
19:11:43 <Avatar> so he hasn't just forgotten
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19:13:10 <Ballig> Zenyth
19:14:12 <Avatar> Zenyth
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19:15:06 <Avatar> bit rude
19:17:36 <Ballig> bit rude
19:17:42 <Avatar> he will be back
19:17:48 <Ballig> why do you think that
19:17:54 <Avatar> well he is just trying to figure out what he is doing
19:18:01 <Ballig> how do you know
19:18:08 <Avatar> just a hunch
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19:20:05 <Ballig> ha, you lost a player
19:20:06 ChanOP sets mode +a #d&d Ballig
19:20:07 <Avatar> yeah he was after desperate and dateless
19:20:34 <MekkisScreen> 7 < Eidren> avatar
19:20:34 <MekkisScreen> 23:08 < Eidren> i can't commit atm i'll have to bail out of this game
19:20:35 <MekkisScreen> 23:08 < Eidren> >_<
19:20:35 <MekkisScreen> 23:08 < Eidren> if you guys are playing tomorrow i will play.
19:20:35 <MekkisScreen> 23:08 < Eidren> i promise!
19:20:38 <MekkisScreen> 23:08 < Eidren> ja ne~
19:20:50 <Avatar> great
19:21:03 <Avatar> if kapow shows, I'm still willing to npc kade
19:21:09 <Mekkis> I thought saying you were going to play was committing
19:21:26 <Ballig> not sure how long he thought games took
19:21:32 <Ballig> I seriously think his only experience is with MMOs
19:21:32 <Avatar> does that mean he is never playing
19:21:39 <Avatar> he said he had played 3.0
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19:21:44 <Avatar> how long do his games take
19:22:05 <Avatar> Mekkis: I'm inclined to say let's ditch this game
19:22:12 <Avatar> kapow doesn't seem to be showing
19:22:14 <Ballig> I can play
19:22:15 <Ballig> :p
19:22:31 <Avatar> can try again next week
19:22:35 <Avatar> I will hound kapow
19:23:07 <Avatar> his first sms was specifically aobut daylight savings and I was very clear with my answer
19:23:12 <Avatar> so that's not his excuse
19:23:43 <Avatar> crap I forgot to buy the humble bundle
19:24:15 <Avatar> and it's closed now
19:24:18 <Avatar> bloody hell
19:25:00 <MekkisScreen> damn
19:25:25 <Brunius> Mekkis, is there a book called the Pathfinder Campaign setting, or was that referring to my question?
19:25:48 <Avatar> Brunius the field guide is good
19:25:56 <Brunius> Yeah gonna get that
19:26:03 <Brunius> Gotta grab more stuff to bulk out my order though
19:26:19 <Ballig> why
19:26:39 <Brunius> So that I don't pay for shipping
19:28:48 <Avatar> is that through amazon
19:29:10 <Avatar> I think I got screwed on shipping when I ordered ultimate combat
19:29:17 <Avatar> which, by the way, hasn't arrived yet
19:29:41 <Ballig> I thought you said you didn't get it in hardcover
19:29:52 <Brunius> amazon.co.uk
19:29:59 <Avatar> yeah I did
19:30:00 <MekkisScreen> amazon's shipping is $9 for the first, then $7 for subsequent ones
19:30:11 <Brunius> Free shipping over 25 pounds, if they're super saver items
19:30:23 <Avatar> yeah I think that was why I got the advanced player's guide with my core rulebook
19:30:36 <MekkisScreen> paizo gives $10 off shipping for orders over 100
19:30:38 <Brunius> I got Adventurer's Armory with mine
19:30:39 <Avatar> but I forgot about that with ultimate combat and ended up spending money on shipping instead
19:30:48 <Avatar> instead of a second book
19:33:14 <Brunius> MekkisScreen: When you said "Brunius, Pathfinder Campaign Setting X to start with X Inner Sea World Guide" (Xes mark breaks in lines) did you mean "Pathfinder Campaign Setting to start with"?
19:36:53 <Avatar> there's specific ones
19:37:02 <Avatar> I think inner sea world guide is one of them
19:37:06 <Brunius> Yeah
19:37:17 <Brunius> The plan atm is Inner Sea World Guide and Field Guide
19:37:24 <Avatar> there's realms of twilight, obsidian twilight, cerulean seas
19:38:56 <Ballig> there's cities of golarion
19:38:59 <Ballig> isn't that one
19:39:15 <Avatar> is that specifically a campaign setting one
19:39:28 <Avatar> there's (race) of golarion ones
19:39:53 <Ballig> depends on your definition of "campaign setting"
19:40:07 <Ballig> I would say that information about the cities in a world fall into campaign setting information
19:40:14 <Brunius> Uh, Ballig.
19:40:21 <Brunius> There's 'series' of these things
19:40:30 <Ballig> okay?
19:40:32 <Brunius> Player Companion
19:40:34 <Ballig> why does that deserve an "uh"
19:40:40 <Brunius> Pathfinder Campaign Setting
19:40:44 <Brunius> Not sure if there are others
19:40:55 <Avatar> you probably confused him abit
19:41:20 <Brunius> Adventure Path
19:41:23 <Brunius> That was the other one
19:41:43 <Ballig> confused who
19:41:51 <Avatar> I get confused sometimes but instead of hesitating and saying "uh" when I probably should, I instead launch into a tirade of humorous happenings instead
19:42:07 <Brunius> Maybe I should get Seekers of Secets
19:42:09 <Avatar> sometimes I amaze myself with quite how outlandish I get
19:42:10 <Brunius> Secrets*
19:42:37 <Ballig> I think you're meant to have seekers of secrets to play PFS
19:42:40 <Ballig> like it's expected knowledge
19:42:43 <Ballig> I have it, but haven't read it
19:42:45 <Avatar> er, really
19:42:47 <Avatar> send it to me
19:42:52 <Ballig> it's watermarked
19:42:56 <Avatar> is it free
19:42:59 <Ballig> no
19:43:06 <Brunius> You're meant to have the field guide
19:43:13 <Brunius> it used to be seekers of secrets
19:43:22 <Avatar> you can't even learn what the languages in golarion are without the inner sea guide
19:43:30 <Avatar> unless you trudge through individual scenarios to find them
19:43:39 <Avatar> I don't know why they wouldn't have those in the PFS guide
19:44:14 <Brunius> To get you to buy the inner sea guide
19:44:50 <Brunius> Yeah, I reckon I'll get the inner sea guide.
19:45:43 <Avatar> but it's a basic thing of character creation
19:45:51 <Ballig> it is a bit
19:45:56 <Ballig> you use the languages listed in the core rulebook
19:46:01 <Ballig> then find out in PFS that none of them are ever, ever used
19:46:08 <Ballig> and it's always the campaign setting languages that you needed
19:46:09 <Avatar> well they are sometimes
19:46:22 <Avatar> that one with the diseased flowers required sylvan for something
19:46:28 <Ballig> not really
19:46:34 <Ballig> that's just because you wanted to send a telepathic message to a fey
19:46:35 <Avatar> but like elven and undercommon and draconic I've never heard of a use for
19:46:41 <Avatar> oh
19:46:48 <Avatar> anyway
19:46:51 <Avatar> it's a bit bs
19:47:37 <Ballig> Bobbob knows sylvan
19:48:08 <Avatar> sweet you can talk to fey in their native tongue
19:48:19 <Ballig> so useful
19:48:19 <Ballig> :p
19:49:55 <Ballig> maybe I should change my wizard's languages
19:50:01 <Avatar> anyone got an opinion on whether ultimate magic is worth buying
19:50:03 <Ballig> I haven't played him except in that mock scenario
19:50:12 <Avatar> when I got it it looked a bit garbage
19:50:27 <Avatar> surprisingly garbage, I expected it to be better than ultimate combat
19:50:58 <Ballig> does it have new classes
19:51:30 <Brunius> Ultimate Magic has Magus, doesn't it?
19:53:34 <Ballig> hm, Samsuhn has 2 PP
19:53:37 <Ballig> he should probably buy a wand
19:53:48 <Avatar> yeah it has magus
19:54:04 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: I have two hardcopies of UM
19:54:06 <Avatar> looks like it has variants for all the spellcasters
19:54:11 <Avatar> sweet can I have one
19:54:34 <MekkisScreen> sure.. for $$$
19:54:39 <Avatar> I'll give you $10
19:55:19 <Ballig> he'll give it to you for that tengu sheet
19:55:28 <Avatar> no I want a vanity for my tengu sheet
19:55:37 <Ballig> like what
19:55:39 <Ballig> give me an example vanity
19:55:48 <Avatar> like a boon
19:55:48 <Ballig> like a hat?
19:55:53 <Avatar> no not a hat
19:55:54 <Ballig> a hat boon
19:56:00 <Avatar> Buck doesn't wear a hat
19:56:04 <Ballig> so you can walk around and be like "Buck is wearing a top hat."
19:56:05 <Avatar> not even an acubra
19:56:12 <Avatar> unless his outfit comes with one
19:56:21 <Avatar> I don't even know if I have an outfit yet
19:56:31 <Avatar> I guess I must have an explorer's one
19:56:37 <Ballig> I think armour would override an outfit wouldn't it
19:56:42 <Avatar> apparently not
19:56:57 <Avatar> your outfit is free though
19:56:59 <Avatar> the first one you get
19:57:17 <Ballig> how do you buy new spells in PFS
19:57:19 <Ballig> is it the same as regular pathfinder
19:57:31 <Avatar> for a wizard?
19:57:40 <Avatar> why would it be different, just buy scrolls
19:58:21 <Ballig> there's a transcription cost
19:58:37 <Ballig> and I would think it might be different because in the regular rules your biggest limitation is the time it takes
19:59:15 <Avatar> ultimate magic doesn't make oracle any better either
19:59:30 <Brunius> Not sure if I wanna go to Armageddon tomorrow...
19:59:38 <Avatar> there's an archetype where you can select two curses instead of one, ha!
19:59:44 <Avatar> what's armageddon
19:59:59 <Brunius> Pop culture expo
20:00:10 <Brunius> WotC has a large stall/whatever it is there
20:00:25 <Brunius> Good games is across from them
20:00:33 <Brunius> Ubisoft is there
20:00:34 <Avatar> I've lost all faith in wotc until they focus on 3.5 again
20:00:44 <Brunius> Why would they focus on 3.5 again?
20:00:47 <Avatar> they wouldn't
20:02:16 <Brunius> Hell, RvB is there.
20:02:40 <Ballig> what's RvB
20:02:47 <Avatar> red vs blue
20:02:50 <Ballig> only 10 gold to transcribe a level 1 spell, not bad
20:02:52 <Ballig> what's red vs blue
20:03:00 <Avatar> can't you do it yourself
20:03:15 <Brunius> RvB is a Halo machinima
20:03:26 <Ballig> that's 10gp to do it yourself
20:03:34 <Ballig> it's the cost of material components/ink/etc
20:03:45 <Ballig> and 25gb for the scroll, so 35gp per level 1 spell I purchase
20:03:51 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BAM9fgV-ts
20:05:54 <Avatar> oops
20:06:09 <Brunius> Why do you keep sending me stuff, Avatar?
20:07:03 <Ballig> I don't get it
20:07:13 <Ballig> do they just take fraps of a game and then add voices to it
20:07:16 <Ballig> is it meant to be funny
20:07:25 <Avatar> it was an accident
20:07:37 <Avatar> it is funny
20:07:45 <Avatar> if you don't find it funny, you need to check that sense of humour of yours
20:07:46 <Ballig> Brunius: that question you asked me on skype the other day? that's how I know
20:07:58 <Brunius> What question did I ask you?
20:08:06 <Ballig> you'll remember
20:08:09 <Ballig> you'll remember
20:08:14 <Avatar> I won't, what was it
20:08:29 <Brunius> How you know what?
20:08:32 <Ballig> it's the reason Brunius freaked out and wanted you to enter the conversation
20:08:48 <Brunius> Wait what
20:09:01 <Brunius> Oh god.
20:09:10 * Brunius just worked it out
20:09:26 <Ballig> so be careful of what he "accidentally" sends you
20:10:20 <Avatar> what
20:10:30 <Avatar> you're scaring me now
20:14:24 <Avatar> ?????
20:15:06 <Ballig> ?????
20:17:55 <Ballig> what should samsuhn get a wand of
20:18:04 <Avatar> CLW
20:18:08 <Ballig> he's a wizard
20:18:12 <Ballig> he's not getting a wand of cure light wounds
20:18:19 <Avatar> wizards get hurt too
20:18:26 <Ballig> he's not getting a wand of cure light wounds
20:18:39 <Avatar> you're responsible for your own healing
20:18:44 <Ballig> he's not getting a wand of cure light wounds
20:18:48 <Avatar> you're responsible for your own healing
20:18:51 <Ballig> he's not getting a wand of cure light wounds
20:18:56 <Avatar> you're responsible for your own healing
20:18:58 <Ballig> he's not getting a wand of cure light wounds
20:19:01 <Avatar> you're responsible for your own healing
20:19:03 <Ballig> he's not getting a wand of cure light wounds
20:19:07 <Avatar> spam
20:19:10 <Ballig> your face is
20:19:34 <Ballig> magic missile would be the obvious choice
20:19:37 <Ballig> but I'd be tempted to use it a lot
20:19:43 <Ballig> I could get a wand of colour spray and just go nuts
20:19:51 <Avatar> yeah get colour spray
20:20:06 <Ballig> just use it in every encounter in every scenario
20:20:25 <Avatar> that's the plan
20:20:39 <Ballig> get through three scenarios in a day
20:20:41 <Avatar> magic missile is good though
20:20:58 <Avatar> wait, if it speeds up combat, get colour spray
20:21:52 <Ballig> my sleep has a DC 18
20:21:55 <Ballig> that could speed up combat too
20:22:39 <Avatar> DC 18
20:22:42 <Avatar> what's your int
20:22:45 <Ballig> 20
20:22:51 <Avatar> trait?
20:23:07 <Ballig> spell focus and greater spell focus
20:24:26 <Avatar> that's good
20:24:51 <Ballig> anything with less than 8 in will save has an even chance of being made to sleep
20:25:03 <Avatar> man get a wand of sleep
20:25:05 <Avatar> for sure
20:25:10 <Ballig> the DC is low on a wand
20:25:13 <Avatar> oh
20:25:33 <Ballig> from memory it uses the lowest stat possible for that spell?
20:25:40 <Ballig> which would make the DC 11
20:28:33 <Avatar> do the oracle's mysteries/revelations really offset the curses
20:28:38 <Avatar> because those curses are fucking terrible
20:30:07 <Ballig> aren't the curses like, being deaf
20:30:13 <Avatar> yeah
20:30:33 <Avatar> the best one there makes you near-completely unable to talk to your party during combat
20:33:23 <Avatar> seems like it's cleric:wizard as oracle:sorcerer
20:34:12 <Avatar> the relevations do seem quite good
20:34:16 <Avatar> I don't know if they make up for it
20:34:35 <Avatar> I see once per day a lot
20:34:57 <Avatar> it'd be good if you were deaf once per day
20:35:11 <Ballig> haha
20:35:12 <Ballig> I hate once per day
20:35:15 <Ballig> because I never want to use it
20:35:18 <Avatar> yeah
20:35:20 <Ballig> like Bobbob has a challenge he can use once per day
20:35:21 <Avatar> always save it up
20:35:23 <Ballig> he's only ever used it that once
20:35:37 <Avatar> remember I had a character that had some sort of reroll once per day, with a feat
20:35:38 <Ballig> even though I can tell when I'm on the last boss usually, I tend to completely forget to use it
20:35:41 <Avatar> I think it was my star wars character
20:35:46 <Avatar> and I never ever fucking used it
20:35:49 <Ballig> yeah
20:35:54 <Avatar> heroic surge or something
20:37:22 <Ballig> I can't seem to actually find where it says the DC uses the creator's intelligence
20:39:38 <Avatar> hey, there's an image that shows how a line spell (like lightning bolt) can be casted in a direction that isn't just, north or east or south or west
20:40:05 <Avatar> not even just nne, there's like nnne as well
20:40:17 <Ballig> yeah
20:40:25 <Ballig> I'm always like that with straight lines when I DM
20:40:30 <Ballig> like you don't need to necessarily charge north
20:40:42 <Ballig> as long as you can get a straight line between you and your target, doesn't matter if you can mark that path with squares
20:40:47 <Avatar> I didn't know that
20:41:11 <Avatar> I always just assumed 8 directions
20:41:14 <Mekkis> Avatar, have you ever actually read the rules?
20:41:21 <Avatar> no mekkis
20:41:23 <Avatar> i've never read the rules
20:41:24 <Ballig> he's skimmed them
20:41:37 <Avatar> I've never even skimmed them
20:41:41 <Avatar> I just haven't had a look at the book at all
20:41:45 <Ballig> Mekkis: where in the rules does it talk about DCs for spells cast from scrolls/wands
20:41:45 <Avatar> this is the first time
20:42:05 <Mekkis> not sure, I'll have to look it up
20:42:21 <Avatar> Saving Throw Difficulty Class: A saving throw against your
20:42:21 <Avatar> spell has a DC of 10 + the level of the spell + your bonus for
20:42:21 <Avatar> the relevant ability (Intelligence for a wizard, Charisma for a
20:42:21 <Avatar> bard, paladin, or sorcerer, or Wisdom for a cleric, druid, or
20:42:21 <Avatar> ranger).
20:42:32 <Ballig> that doesn't mention wands or scrolls at all
20:42:45 <Avatar> sorry I skimmed your question
20:42:49 <Ballig> apparently :p
20:43:22 <Avatar> in fact I didn't even read your question
20:43:30 <Ballig> you were j ust pasting random passages?
20:43:38 <Mekkis> Saving throws against magic item powers
20:43:41 <Mekkis> p460
20:43:51 <Mekkis> Magic items produce spells or spell-like effects. For a saving
20:43:51 <Mekkis> throw against a spell or spell-like effect from a magic item,
20:43:51 <Mekkis> the DC is 10 + the level of the spell or effect + the ability
20:43:51 <Mekkis> modifier of the minimum ability score needed to cast that
20:43:51 <Mekkis> level of spell.
20:44:22 <Mekkis> Ballig, what deity does your wizard worship?
20:44:27 <Mekkis> is it Asmodeus?
20:44:48 <Ballig> Nethys
20:44:56 <Mekkis> God of Knowledge*
20:45:07 <Mekkis> (and death?)
20:45:24 <Avatar> do deities give non-clerics bonuses
20:45:36 <Brunius> Man.
20:45:37 <Mekkis> sometimes
20:45:49 <Brunius> There is so much cool shit in Adventurer's Armory that I never realised was there.
20:45:53 <Ballig> ah there it is. as I thought, wands use the lowest stat possible to cast the spell
20:45:58 <Avatar> Brunius: yeah :P
20:46:00 <Ballig> so a caster level 1 wand of sleep is a DC 11
20:46:00 <Mekkis> Cayden Celian lets Grolschmir cast /Create Water/ to create beer and wine
20:46:03 <Ballig> which makes it almost worthless
20:46:35 <Avatar> you can't even buy higher level wands in PFS
20:46:41 <Mekkis> Asmodeus allows his wizards/sorcerers to cast a healing spell that's generally better than CLW
20:46:45 <Mekkis> Avatar, why not?
20:46:46 <Ballig> unless it's in a chronicle sheet
20:46:55 <Ballig> actually, I'm not certain that's the case
20:46:57 <Ballig> I know it is for lower charges
20:47:02 <Avatar> I saw it in the PFS guide
20:47:06 <Ballig> sure it wasn't charges
20:47:15 <Avatar> yeah 90% sure
20:47:40 <Mekkis> I thought we'd established that if you have the required fame, you can buy any magic item that costs less than your limit
20:47:50 <Brunius> Wait what
20:47:53 <Brunius> You can?
20:47:56 <Mekkis> yes
20:48:00 <Ballig> apparently
20:48:09 <Mekkis> that's what the whole point of fame is
20:48:09 <Avatar> the rules aren't clear about it
20:48:11 <Ballig> the rulebook is still ambiguous on that matter
20:48:15 <Avatar> but supposedly that's what they intend to say
20:48:19 <Avatar> and everyone seems to agree
20:48:46 <Avatar> that doesn't even really make sense to me
20:48:51 <Mekkis> why not?
20:49:06 <Brunius> So what's the point of always available items?
20:49:11 <Mekkis> you've served your faction well, so they'll extend to you the services of crafting items for you
20:49:25 <Mekkis> Brunius, for buying if you have insufficient fame
20:49:34 <Brunius> Oh, I see.
20:49:50 <Ballig> the use of the term "always available" and the phrase "items not on the above list are never available" is very vague
20:49:55 <Avatar> how often do you see things on a chronicle sheet that are more expensive than your fame would ever allow
20:50:16 <Ballig> it may be possible if you did a lot of early uptiering
20:50:18 <Mekkis> Ballig, it was clearer in the older edition of the guide
20:50:30 <Brunius> Which edition?
20:50:31 <Avatar> not if your chronicle sheet always has potions and scrolls
20:50:34 <Mekkis> 2.something
20:50:35 <Brunius> I still have 3.0
20:50:39 <Mekkis> want me to paste it?
20:50:43 <Ballig> uptiered scenarios have more than that
20:50:43 <Mekkis> circa 10 lines
20:50:44 <Brunius> Yes please.
20:50:58 <Mekkis> On table 11.2 you’ll find the specific details for how
20:50:58 <Mekkis> to use Prestige Award to gauge when your character can
20:50:58 <Mekkis> purchase items above the basic limits. “Prestige Award
20:50:58 <Mekkis> Attained” is the total needed to then purchase items
20:50:58 <Mekkis> below the “Item Cost” limit in the second column. For
20:50:58 <Mekkis> example, Bob’s character has achieved a Prestige Award
20:50:58 <Mekkis> of 27 with the Cheliax faction. As a result, Bob’s character
20:50:58 <Mekkis> may now purchase any item below 11,750 gp that’s legal
20:50:58 <Mekkis> for play. Purchasing items in this way represents your
20:50:58 <Mekkis> faction’s willingness and ability to find and sell you new
20:50:58 <Mekkis> and better gear, equipment, weapons, and magic items.
20:51:30 <Brunius> Mmmm
20:51:33 <Brunius> That is much clearer
20:51:36 <Ballig> that is clearer
20:51:40 <Ballig> why did they make it ambiguous
20:51:43 <Mekkis> not sure why they removed it in the later versions
20:51:50 <Ballig> see if we'd read that, we wouldn't have had any issues
20:52:21 <Mekkis> (this is version 2.0 - 8/1/09)
20:52:34 <Mekkis> (I think it's a middle-endian date)
20:52:34 <Avatar> which suggests the rule changed
20:52:39 <Mekkis> it did
20:52:40 <Ballig> I think Avatar will save up for a bag of holding now
20:52:50 <Mekkis> not it's "fame", not "Prestige Award"
20:52:57 <Avatar> how much is a bag of holding
20:52:59 <Mekkis> the actual mechanic hasn't changed
20:53:05 <Avatar> I didn't even think to get it, despite mort mentioning it
20:53:07 <Mekkis> there are cheaper ones
20:53:30 <Avatar> 2500gp
20:53:32 <Ballig> in fact, I could almost afford one right now
20:54:08 <Avatar> a bag of holding itself weighs 15lb
20:54:15 <Ballig> but holds 250lbs
20:54:16 <Mekkis> Pathfinder Pouch is 1000gp
20:54:20 <Ballig> what
20:54:22 <Ballig> where's that
20:54:23 <Avatar> what's that!
20:54:30 <Ballig> are you holding out on us
20:54:41 <Avatar> haha yeah while we have been discussing it for a week or two
20:54:57 <Brunius> Tomorrow 10am is next PFS right?
20:55:02 <Mekkis> it's in seeker of secrets, iirc
20:55:02 <Ballig> right
20:55:02 <Avatar> yeah
20:55:04 <Brunius> What levels are you going to run for?
20:55:05 <Mekkis> ja
20:55:11 <Mekkis> depends on who we have
20:55:20 <Avatar> is that what you're basing your attendance on
20:55:23 <Mekkis> I'm thinking 1-2, unless we have higher levelled characters
20:55:29 <Brunius> Sorta, Avatar
20:55:32 <Avatar> just show up
20:55:38 <Brunius> Probably will.
20:55:44 <Avatar> if you only want to use one character, say so
20:55:48 <Brunius> Want me to get Vincent in here to play some sweet PFS?
20:55:49 <Avatar> I don't want to use cairo
20:55:53 <Avatar> hells yeah
20:55:54 <Ballig> but the pouch acts as
20:55:55 <Ballig> a very small bag of holding (contents limit 10 pounds, volume
20:55:55 <Ballig> limit 2 cubic feet).
20:55:57 <Avatar> who is vincent
20:55:57 <Ballig> it only holds 10 pounds
20:56:04 <Brunius> He was at Unicon
20:56:10 <Brunius> "Almost didn't get in"
20:56:13 <Avatar> I don't remember a vincent
20:56:23 <Brunius> He didn't play with you, IIRC
20:56:28 <Brunius> Did play PFS though
20:56:29 <Avatar> is he ok
20:56:34 <Brunius> Evenchance?
20:56:35 <Ballig> is he hot
20:56:41 <Avatar> no I mean is he a dickhead
20:56:47 <Brunius> Hell no
20:56:47 <Ballig> I mean is he hot
20:56:59 <Ballig> like would you make out with him if no one would ever find out
20:57:16 <Mekkis> what about the Chelish Crux
20:57:22 <Ballig> what's that
20:57:23 <Brunius> Ballig, I probably wouldn't make out with anyone if no one would ever find out, at the moment
20:58:03 <Mekkis> another form of bag of holding
20:58:10 <Ballig> does it hold more than 10 pounds
20:58:33 <Avatar> hang on let's get the stats
20:58:34 <Avatar> before we judge
20:58:44 <Mekkis> 200
20:58:47 <Mekkis> lb
20:58:51 <Mekkis> for 2000gp
20:58:56 <Ballig> is it only available to people of the cheliax faction
20:58:59 <Mekkis> nope
20:59:05 <Avatar> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/c-d/chelish-crux
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20:59:26 <Brunius> How long will tomorrow's scenario last?
20:59:34 <Eidren> i have come to claim your soul ballig...
20:59:35 <Mekkis> 3-4 hours
20:59:37 <Avatar> 3-4 hours
20:59:40 <Ballig> 3-4 hours
20:59:40 <Eidren> dieeeee
20:59:43 <Avatar> unless everyone wants to continue
20:59:50 <diebot> 3-4 hours
20:59:50 <Eidren> can we still play?
20:59:54 <Eidren> im here! whaha
20:59:56 <Brunius> All in one session?
20:59:57 <Avatar> we should start now
21:00:00 <Mekkis> ok
21:00:15 <Avatar> no I meant PFS
21:00:16 <Avatar> you are the DM
21:00:19 <Jasim> ok
21:00:25 <Eidren> do i still play that halfling?
21:00:28 <Avatar> no!
21:00:29 <Avatar> PFS !
21:00:32 <Eidren> YAY
21:00:33 <Brunius> Would it all be in one session, Mekkis?
21:00:34 <Eidren> pfs
21:00:41 <Avatar> Brunius: you can never tell that
21:00:47 <Mekkis> Brunius, perhaps...
21:00:55 <Mekkis> so
21:00:58 <Avatar> it can be in one session if you're willing to play as long as it takes
21:01:00 <Ballig> why, can you not commit to a second game?
21:01:01 <Mekkis> what characters do we have now?
21:01:11 <Avatar> the 4 of us
21:01:14 <Eidren> btw avatar
21:01:19 <Eidren> that password you have me last time.
21:01:21 <Eidren> didn't work
21:01:21 <Mekkis> characters, not players
21:01:27 <Avatar> it works alright
21:01:32 <Ballig> Samsuhn (level 1 wizard) Bobbob (level 4 cavalier)
21:01:44 <Avatar> Buck (level 2 gunslinger), Mellon (level 1 wizard)
21:01:53 <Ballig> aaaaaaand
21:02:08 <Brunius> Derau (Level 1 Cleric), Kaleb (Level 3 Rogue)
21:02:17 <Ballig> wrong!
21:02:19 <Ballig> Derau is level 2
21:02:25 <Ballig> Avatar: you have another character
21:02:30 <Brunius> You've passed my test, Ballig!
21:02:35 <Avatar> yeah and Cairo (level 4), but I'd rather not play him
21:02:39 <Mekkis> well, looks like it'll be 1-2 then
21:02:40 <Ballig> why not
21:02:40 <Avatar> unless last resort
21:02:42 <Mekkis> since everyone's in there
21:02:50 <Avatar> I'm focusing on Buck, or Mellon as an alternative
21:02:57 <Avatar> I want to retire Cairo
21:03:01 <Ballig> but if you played Cairo we could do a 3-4 scenario
21:03:11 <Avatar> I'd rather get buck to 3
21:03:12 <Brunius> If Ballig plays Bobbob, and I play Kaleb, could he uptier?
21:03:14 <Mekkis> this scenario's 1-2 or 4-5
21:03:23 <Ballig> 4-5 might be a bit much
21:03:37 <Mekkis> mmm
21:03:52 <Mekkis> is Eidren in?
21:03:59 <Eidren> yes
21:04:09 <Mekkis> assuming first-level something?
21:04:10 <Eidren> level 1 halfling sorcerer. T_T
21:04:18 <Brunius> Derau it is then.
21:04:29 <Brunius> Or I could roll up a fighter tonight.
21:04:33 <Mekkis> you can play Kaleb if you want, Brunius
21:04:41 <Brunius> ?
21:04:47 <Ballig> if you want another 1-2 tier xp on him
21:04:49 <Mekkis> we're starting now, right?
21:05:01 <Avatar> yeah
21:05:06 <Brunius> I guess.
21:05:09 <Mekkis> well, change nicks then
21:05:11 <Avatar> we don't need a 3-4 hour game now
21:05:12 <Brunius> I probably have to go to sleep soonish
21:05:13 <Avatar> this is impromptu
21:05:15 Ballig is now known as Samsuhn
21:05:17 <Eidren> can i has password
21:05:18 Avatar is now known as Buck
21:05:21 <Brunius> So what's going on?
21:05:23 <Eidren> so i can upload an updated version
21:05:25 <Eidren> of my sheet
21:05:26 <Buck> I'll get it
21:05:27 <Brunius> Level bracket?
21:05:29 <Mekkis> 1-2
21:05:32 <Mekkis> like I said
21:05:42 <Brunius> What was the deal with playing Kaleb?
21:05:44 * ChanOP removes channel operator status from Samsuhn
21:05:48 ChanOP gives voice to Samsuhn
21:05:53 <Samsuhn> you can if you like
21:05:55 Buck gives channel operator status to Mekkis
21:05:59 * Buck removes channel operator status from Buck
21:06:06 <Samsuhn> I'd recommend waiting until we have a level 3-4 party to do a proper tier though
21:06:11 <Brunius> Mmmm
21:06:15 <Brunius> Derau it is then
21:06:18 Brunius is now known as Derau
21:06:29 <Samsuhn> what book is armoured kilt in
21:06:41 <Mekkis> not sure
21:06:42 <Derau> Adventurer's Armory, second printing
21:06:46 <Mekkis> but it's not allowed, iirc
21:06:54 <Samsuhn> isn't it
21:06:59 <Buck> once I hit level 3, I'm game to do tier 4-5
21:07:06 <Buck> I just need some more hp first
21:07:23 <Mekkis> last I checked, Samsuhn
21:07:37 <Derau> Page 19—In the Armor and Shields table, under
21:07:37 <Derau> Light Armor, add an entry for “Armored kilt
21:07:38 <Derau> 3
21:07:38 <Derau> ”
21:07:38 <Derau> with the following values: Cost 20 gp, Armor/
21:07:38 <Derau> Shield Bonus +1, Maximum Dex Bonus +6, Armor
21:07:38 <Derau> Check Penalty 0, Arcane Spell Failure Chance 0%,
21:07:38 <Derau> Speed 30 ft./20 ft., Weight 10 lbs.
21:08:17 <Mekkis> Equipment: wayfinder, all weapons on page 209, all armor on page 211 (except the armored kilt), all gear on page 213*
21:09:27 <Eidren> yay done
21:09:28 <Eidren> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=320
21:09:35 <Samsuhn> change your nick
21:09:47 ChanOP gives voice to Eidren Derau Buck
21:10:03 <Buck> okay I have dinner
21:10:03 Eidren is now known as Valkur
21:10:35 <Mekkis> are we skyping?
21:10:44 <Samsuhn> I'll skype
21:10:45 <Buck> we can
21:10:49 <Derau> I can
21:10:51 <Mekkis> ok
21:11:04 <Derau> I just can't talk very loud
21:11:21 <Buck> np
21:12:08 <Mekkis> there was a band called "Pathfinder"
21:12:20 <Derau> I know.
21:12:55 <Mekkis> do you like their music?
21:13:14 <Buck> what are you doing mekkis
21:13:16 <Buck> we're all on
21:13:33 <Mekkis> booting up my skype computer
21:13:41 <Mekkis> start by introducing your characters
21:13:44 <Mekkis> including appearance
21:13:52 <Mekkis> and PM me your PFS numbers and factions
21:14:14 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
21:14:15 <Buck> we actually don't know each other
21:14:27 <Mekkis> that's why you should introduce yourselves to each other
21:14:46 <Mekkis> I gather that there are some Pathfinders here with some experience...
21:15:15 <Samsuhn> I'm an elf with long blonde hair and green eyes
21:15:18 <Buck> "I'm Buck. I am a gunslinger. This is my gun."
21:15:21 <Buck> "And this here's Dob."
21:15:25 <Samsuhn> "Hello! I am Samsuhn the Mighty!"
21:15:26 <Derau> You see a stout dwarf loitering. He looks disgruntled about something or other.
21:15:38 * Derau glares by way of greeting
21:15:56 <Buck> "And this here's DOBS."
21:16:00 <Samsuhn> "Hello Dob, you are looking mighty fine today."
21:16:06 <Buck> i typed it wrong :|
21:16:11 <Derau> gg
21:16:19 <Mekkis> You're in Absalom, outside the Grand Lodge, at the moment
21:16:39 <Mekkis> you can probably see the acid burns from the incident that happened last year
21:16:50 <Samsuhn> what incident
21:17:00 <Mekkis> what incident indeed!
21:17:06 <Mekkis> knowledge history please?
21:17:13 <Derau> ha
21:17:31 <Samsuhn> I don't have it
21:17:34 <Samsuhn> does anyone have knowledge local
21:17:45 <Derau> Hang on a sec
21:18:11 <Derau> I've only got Religion
21:18:35 <Buck> I don't have it
21:21:04 <Derau> We play mapless at school
21:21:10 <Derau> It's pretty bad actually
21:21:39 <Valkur> brb going to get some crackers
21:24:46 <Mekkis> You have been called to the Grand Lodge of Absalom for a
21:24:46 <Mekkis> briefing. Seated in a small chamber around a darkwood table,
21:24:46 <Mekkis> various trophies gathered from across the face of Golarion
21:24:46 <Mekkis> hang from the walls. A monkey-shaped mask with a serpent’s
21:24:46 <Mekkis> tongue glares out from the center of one wall, a strange
21:25:06 <Mekkis> halberd with gold rings piercing its thick blade and dragons
21:25:06 <Mekkis> carved along its haft hangs opposite the monkey mask. You
21:25:06 <Mekkis> are alone save your fellow Pathfinders, who apparently have
21:25:06 <Mekkis> been called here for the same purpose.
21:25:20 <Mekkis> Finally, a huge man wearing creaking leathers marches into
21:25:20 <Mekkis> the room. He looks at each of you, as if he were appraising a
21:25:20 <Mekkis> handful of gemstones freshly pulled from the earth, and nods
21:25:20 <Mekkis> curtly. Some of you know him as Adril Hestram, a longtime
21:25:20 <Mekkis> Pathfinder and rumored to be the unwitting architect of the
21:25:20 <Mekkis> famed Katapesh slave riot of 4702. Adril’s physique puts most
21:25:20 <Mekkis> half-orcs to shame.
21:25:27 Derau has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
21:25:51 <Mekkis> “Welcome, friends. We have a serious problem. Skelg the
21:25:51 <Mekkis> Ripper came to Absalom one month ago. Like many Ulfen
21:25:51 <Mekkis> warriors he joined the Longaxes, the Taldan Emperor’s personal
21:25:51 <Mekkis> guard whose duty it is to protect the embassy and Taldan
21:25:51 <Mekkis> visitors. Skelg also dropped a hefty sum of gold to purchase a
21:25:51 <Mekkis> manor in the Ivy district, something a Longaxe isn’t paid well
21:25:51 <Mekkis> enough to do. It is widely assumed that he brought most of his
21:25:51 <Mekkis> wealth with him from the north—a rumor I know to be true.
21:26:23 <Mekkis> “It seems that Skelg also brought a curse with him. In his
21:26:23 <Mekkis> letter to me, he speaks of lying abed in this miserable summer
21:26:23 <Mekkis> dying from the cold. Neither physician nor priest has been able
21:26:23 <Mekkis> to cure his ailment, and there are no signs of disease or poison.
21:26:23 <Mekkis> Of course, for such a man, there is no greater dishonor than to
21:26:23 <Mekkis> die in bed instead of in battle.
21:26:49 <Mekkis> “Normally, the Pathfinder Society would monitor these
21:26:49 <Mekkis> events and let the authorities deal with them. However, there
21:26:49 <Mekkis> are three factors that have drawn our interest. First, Skelg is
21:26:49 <Mekkis> himself a member of our Society and has asked for our help.
21:26:49 <Mekkis> Second, he is a personal friend of mine, and finding a sparring
21:26:49 <Mekkis> partner as worthy as Skelg to replace him would be a trying
21:26:49 <Mekkis> task. Last, he claims that artifacts of great power are involved,
21:26:49 <Mekkis> and that we may be able to recover them for the vaults of the
21:26:49 <Mekkis> Grand Lodge.
21:27:35 <Mekkis> “We view this situation as having enough importance to
21:27:35 <Mekkis> assign you to investigate it. Go to the home of Skelg the Ripper,
21:27:35 <Mekkis> learn what you can, and do your best to help him. If you find an
21:27:35 <Mekkis> item that is somehow connected to the curse, either retrieve it
21:27:35 <Mekkis> or glean as much information as you can about it.
21:27:35 <Mekkis> “I trust there are no questions?”
21:27:43 <Buck> "Oh, there's questions."
21:28:08 <Mekkis> "Speak, I think I've told you everything I know..."
21:28:28 <Mekkis> "But perchance I have not made myself clear to SOME of you out there...."
21:29:11 <Mekkis> "So you might need more... clarifications?"
21:29:28 <Valkur> "waits patiently for everyone to move on to the task at hand"
21:29:48 <Buck> "What else can you tell us about the artifacts?"
21:30:12 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+5 knowledge geography
21:30:13 <diebot> Samsuhn, knowledge geography: [1d20=14] 19
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21:30:16 <Buck> !throw 1d20+1 knowledge int
21:30:16 <diebot> Buck, knowledge int: [1d20=17] 18
21:30:25 <Brunius> So Avatar got my message?
21:30:27 <Buck> yep
21:30:38 ChanOP gives voice to Brunius
21:30:44 Brunius is now known as Derau
21:30:51 <Mekkis> Samsuhn, and Buck, you know that the Ulfin are generally barbarians who live in the north
21:31:01 <Valkur> "is there anything you can give us to help us with this task?"
21:31:02 <Mekkis> (Shades of Ice, perhaps...)
21:31:11 <Derau> What's the deal?
21:31:19 <Buck> "Are we talking the COLD north?"
21:32:35 <Buck> "Is Skelg from the COLD north?"
21:32:55 <Derau> Which scenario is this?
21:33:02 <Mekkis> "I think so.. I'm not sure if he told me..."
21:33:16 <Buck> "Can we talk to him?"
21:33:43 <Valkur> "taps foot impatiently"
21:33:48 <Mekkis> "I imagine so. I can give you directions to his manor if you want."
21:33:54 <Mekkis> "If you need them"
21:33:56 <Derau> Which scenario is this?
21:33:57 <Valkur> "yes please"
21:33:57 <Samsuhn> "We'll take directions."
21:34:06 <Buck> "I'm out of questions."
21:34:08 <Mekkis> “Try and keep up with local events if you want to get
21:34:08 <Mekkis> anywhere in the Society. He lives in Greydog Manor, on
21:34:08 <Mekkis> Parkview Street in the Ivy district.”
21:34:11 <Buck> "C'mon Dobs."
21:34:36 <Valkur> "ye gods, you want us to do this for you and you are not giving us anything to help us in doing this for you"
21:35:58 <Buck> "C'mon Valkur. We'll get our rewards later."
21:35:58 <Mekkis> “You are doing this on behalf of the Society—if you
21:35:58 <Mekkis> truly seek monetary reward, talk to Skelg. You can
21:35:58 <Mekkis> negotiate with him.”
21:36:04 <Valkur> im not asking for rewards
21:36:21 <Valkur> "you know what we are dealing with"
21:36:33 <Mekkis> "Then you should be sufficient with what you have picked up over your previous exploits."
21:36:46 <Mekkis> "No I don't. If I did, I'd tell you...."
21:37:05 <Valkur> "sigh how niggardly, fine fine"
21:37:33 <Valkur> how much are cure light wound potions?
21:37:45 <Derau> Not much
21:38:21 <Valkur> i'd like to buy a couple possibly
21:38:33 <Mekkis> do you have the money?
21:38:37 <Mekkis> 50gp each
21:38:44 <Valkur> i have 140gp
21:38:49 <Buck> I have a wand
21:38:54 <Valkur> so i'd like to buy a couple
21:38:57 <Buck> you can pay me back in charges later
21:39:00 <Derau> I have a wand, too
21:39:00 <Derau> I think
21:39:07 <Buck> speaking of which, I pass my wand to Derau since he's the only one who can use it
21:39:56 <Samsuhn> we'll go to the manor
21:40:12 <Buck> I'm not buying
21:40:12 <Samsuhn> and I'm buying a wand of magic missile for 2 PA
21:40:23 <Buck> nothing that's not already on my sheet
21:40:24 <Valkur> "buys 2 healing potions for 100gp"
21:40:26 <Buck> let me check if that's uploaded
21:43:07 <Buck> (it ius)
21:43:08 <Buck> is)
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21:44:17 <Mekkis> connect to diebot.ti4200.info port 4000
21:44:49 <Mekkis> ipconfig
21:45:46 <Derau> Everyone's HP?
21:46:16 <Samsuhn> 7/7
21:46:16 <Samsuhn> :(
21:46:30 <Valkur> diebot.t14200.info
21:46:31 <Buck> 22/22
21:46:51 <Mekkis> diebot.ti4200.info
21:46:54 <Mekkis> i not one
21:47:27 <Mekkis> you travel to Greydog Manor.
21:47:30 <Mekkis> Parkview Street is true to its name, running the entire length
21:47:30 <Mekkis> of the Ivy District park. Standing like a tomb in a flower
21:47:30 <Mekkis> garden, Greydog Manor is easy to find. Six-foot-high walls
21:47:30 <Mekkis> surround the massive, stone building and an immense iron
21:47:30 <Mekkis> gate flanked by granite statues of hunting dogs stands open,
21:47:30 <Mekkis> offering access to the interior. Looking along the street, it is
21:47:30 <Mekkis> clear that locals give the estate a wide berth. The stone walls
21:47:30 <Mekkis> seem to give a slight chill to the air, which is not entirely
21:47:30 <Mekkis> unpleasant on such a hot day.
21:47:40 <Derau> Valkur HP?
21:48:05 <Valkur> 10
21:48:13 <Valkur> 6+1 cont +3 toughness
21:48:50 <Mekkis> the manor is on a hill, outside
21:49:39 <Derau> wb
21:49:53 <Samsuhn> as opposed to being... inside?
21:49:54 <Samsuhn> :o
21:49:56 <Mekkis> what direction do you want to approach from
21:50:17 <Samsuhn> I'll approach from the rear
21:50:19 <Samsuhn> (that's what she said)
21:50:24 <Derau> The front.
21:50:27 <Buck> we climb the roof
21:50:51 <Derau> I have a potion of invisibility?
21:50:55 <Mekkis> are you sneaking and looking around?
21:51:05 <Derau> Chronicle sheet last scenario
21:51:16 <Samsuhn> did you buy it
21:51:19 <Mekkis> did you buy it, Derau
21:51:19 <Buck> does the place look suspicious
21:51:22 <Derau> Yeah
21:51:32 <Mekkis> all the curtains are drawn
21:51:43 <Buck> we've agreed to go in the front door
21:51:46 <Derau> Oh yeah did I tell you that Bayonets exist, Buck?
21:51:47 <Mekkis> there are a few Ulfin warriors at the front too
21:51:56 <Valkur> "casts mage armor"
21:52:03 <Valkur> ac 17 effectively
21:52:07 <Buck> no?
21:52:08 <Derau> You want /me, Valkur
21:52:15 <Derau> ./me casts mage armour
21:52:40 * Valkur Casts Mage Armor
21:52:42 <Valkur> yay
21:52:45 <Valkur> thank you
21:53:03 * Valkur Casts Resistance +1 to all save
21:53:39 * Valkur Casts Detect Magic
21:53:40 <Buck> brown medium
21:53:40 <Mekkis> colours and sizes please
21:53:43 <Samsuhn> purple medium
21:53:49 <Derau> yellow medium
21:53:51 <Valkur> blue small
21:53:51 <Buck> large outside
21:54:28 <Valkur> "concentrates intently to see if there are any traces of magic around"
21:54:44 <Derau> quotes = talking
21:54:48 <Valkur> "check for traps"
21:54:51 <Valkur> lol
21:54:51 * Derau = doing
21:54:52 <Valkur> sorry
21:54:54 * Buck concentrates
21:54:58 <Derau> ./me = doing
21:55:23 * Valkur Looks for any traces of magic
21:55:30 <Mekkis> The courtyard is cool and shady compared to the street outside.
21:55:30 <Mekkis> Dead leaves are scattered across the flagstones and the granite
21:55:30 <Mekkis> steps where two Ulfen warriors stand. Each man wears a chain
21:55:30 <Mekkis> shirt and a surcoat bearing the Taldan crest and carries the
21:55:30 <Mekkis> traditional imperial guard long axe.
21:55:30 <Mekkis> The guards look at you sternly, and one of them speaks.
21:55:30 <Mekkis> “Skelg is ill. He wants no visitors.”
21:55:49 <Samsuhn> "The Pathfinder Society has sent us to help Skelg. We must talk to him."
21:55:50 <Valkur> "We were sent here by his partner"
21:57:14 <Buck> I glare
21:57:16 <Valkur> "oaf we were sent here by his partner Adril, give way"
21:57:38 <Mekkis> "He wants no visitors, and none will be permitted."
21:57:50 <Valkur> "do you not understand the words"
21:57:53 * Derau glares at the warriors
21:58:03 <Valkur> "what part of we were sent by Adril do you not understand?"
21:58:12 <Derau> Man
21:58:19 <Derau> Where do I remember Adril Hestram from?
21:59:08 * Derau facepalms
21:59:12 <Mekkis> "That doesn't matter. We permit no visitors"
22:01:45 <Valkur> !throwdice 1d20+4
22:01:53 <Derau> !throw 1d20
22:01:54 <diebot> Derau, 1d20: [1d20=15] 15
22:01:56 <Buck> !throw 1d20-1 diplomacy
22:01:57 <diebot> Buck, diplomacy: [1d20=15] 14
22:02:01 <Derau> @diplo
22:02:04 <Derau> @diplomacy
22:02:08 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+4
22:02:08 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+4: [1d20=19] 23
22:02:10 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2 diplomacy
22:02:10 <diebot> Samsuhn, diplomacy: [1d20=6] 8
22:02:28 <Derau> !save dip; 1d20-1 Diplomacy
22:02:35 <Derau> !save dip: 1d20-1 Diplomacy
22:02:35 <diebot> Derau, 1d20-1 Diplomacy saved as @dip
22:02:37 <Samsuhn> "Without our help, Skelg might not survive to see his next battle."
22:02:39 <Derau> @dip
22:02:39 <diebot> Derau, Diplomacy: [1d20=20] 19
22:02:47 <Valkur> "we were sent by his good friend adril helstram to help him rid himself of what ever is afflicting him"
22:03:20 <Derau> Key clacks ftw!
22:03:31 <Mekkis> "Skelg would prefer to die in peace, than allow you dirty rascals into his manor."
22:03:43 <Buck> "A moment."
22:03:48 <Buck> I excuse the party
22:04:17 <Derau> @see
22:04:21 <Mekkis> make perception checks please
22:04:26 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception
22:04:26 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=1] 4
22:04:32 <Buck> @see
22:04:33 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=14] 22
22:04:40 <Derau> !save see: 1d20+6 Perception
22:04:40 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+6 Perception saved as @see
22:04:42 <Derau> @see
22:04:42 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=2] 8
22:04:46 <Derau> T.T
22:04:53 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+2
22:04:53 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+2: [1d20=12] 14
22:05:41 <Samsuhn> !save per: 1d20+3 perception
22:05:41 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+3 perception saved as @per
22:07:56 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
22:08:33 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+4
22:08:33 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+4: [1d20=13] 17
22:08:38 <Valkur> intimidate the guards
22:08:54 <Buck> "Let's go, boys. Nothing else to do here if these jokers won't let us in."
22:08:56 <Mekkis> Valkur, type what you're saying first
22:09:04 <Buck> I check their reaction to that
22:09:06 <Valkur> "if you don't let us in we will just slay you all, are you prepared to die for your wages"
22:09:08 <Valkur> ?
22:09:11 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
22:10:03 * Derau continues glaring
22:10:06 <Mekkis> "We are prepared to kill for them, and we'd rather you didn't test us. Axes get rusty you know..."
22:10:37 <Valkur> "very well, DIE!"
22:10:45 <Mekkis> what are you doing, Valkur
22:10:46 <Mekkis> ?
22:10:46 * Derau backs away
22:10:54 <Valkur> "just kidding" lol
22:11:11 <Mekkis> "Go away then. We don't want you hanging around."
22:11:22 <Valkur> "spits on his face and runs away"
22:11:36 <Mekkis> Ok, Valkur leaves
22:11:39 <Derau> "Don't provoke these guys"
22:12:01 <Buck> I leave also
22:12:31 <Samsuhn> I follow?
22:12:32 <Samsuhn> I guess
22:12:33 <Derau> I leave, keeping an eye on the Ulfin (they are Ulfin, right?) as I do so
22:12:54 <Mekkis> you have now left the manor. What are you doing
22:12:59 <Buck> "They were wearing their surcoats backwards."
22:13:04 <Samsuhn> "They're imposters."
22:13:09 <Buck> "I don't think they're there to guard Skelg."
22:13:15 <Buck> "Why would be kept out?"
22:13:19 <Buck> we*
22:13:37 <Samsuhn> "If they're imposters, they may be keeping people out so no one helps Skelg."
22:14:02 <Derau> You complain when we don't plan, complain when we do plan...
22:14:04 <Derau> Jesus.
22:14:20 <Buck> jesus
22:14:25 <Buck> we go back within say about 50-100ft
22:14:27 <Buck> and let rip
22:14:34 <Buck> ask-questions-later style
22:14:40 <Derau> I sit 80ft away
22:14:51 <Derau> Actually 70ft
22:17:14 <Derau> What weapon/s are the guards carrying?
22:18:38 <Derau> You said 6ft before
22:19:57 <Derau> These guys are supposed to be the elite, right?
22:20:47 <Derau> How tall is the tree?
22:22:29 <Derau> If I can see over the fence from the tree, I'll sit in there and shoot them
22:22:36 <Buck> !throw 1d20+3 init
22:22:36 <diebot> Buck, init: [1d20=13] 16
22:22:51 <Valkur> i'll be at s15
22:22:51 <Derau> @init
22:22:52 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=3] 5
22:23:09 <Derau> I'll be at F24
22:24:20 <Derau> !dist 55 60
22:24:20 <diebot> Derau, Length of hypotenuse: 81.394103
22:24:24 <Derau> Man
22:24:29 <Derau> 1 foot out of range
22:24:52 <Derau> I can hit the nearer guy to the tree, at least
22:25:27 <Valkur> i'll shoot x16 too with my light crossbow.
22:25:32 <Mekkis> roll initiatives now
22:25:33 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1 init
22:25:33 <diebot> Samsuhn, init: [1d20=3] 4
22:25:44 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+3
22:25:44 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+3: [1d20=20] 23
22:26:29 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2
22:26:31 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+2: [1d20=14] 16
22:26:36 * Valkur casts magic missile
22:26:44 <Valkur> x16
22:26:47 <Mekkis> what's your target
22:26:52 <Mekkis> roll damage
22:27:06 <Valkur> 1 r
22:27:08 <Valkur> ~_~
22:27:12 <Valkur> negligible
22:27:14 <Mekkis> ?
22:27:19 <Mekkis> ..
22:27:24 <Mekkis> 1d4+1, right?
22:27:30 <Valkur> !throw 1d4+1
22:27:31 <diebot> Valkur, 1d4+1: [1d4=2] 3
22:27:41 <Buck> I shoot the same guy
22:27:47 <Mekkis> roll to-hit
22:27:49 <Buck> !throw 1d20+6
22:27:50 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+6: [1d20=11] 17
22:27:52 <Buck> vs touch
22:27:58 <Mekkis> hits
22:28:06 <Buck> !throw 1d12
22:28:07 <diebot> Buck, 1d12: [1d12=11] 11
22:28:35 <Mekkis> the bullet hits the guy in the temple, and he goes down with a thud
22:28:38 <Valkur> these guys are going to die.
22:28:45 <Derau> Clicky keys are clicky
22:28:50 <Mekkis> it's now Samshun's turn
22:29:04 <Derau> Samshun, eh?
22:29:18 <Samsuhn> five foot forward
22:29:20 <Samsuhn> shoot longbow
22:29:24 <Mekkis> roll it
22:29:25 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1
22:29:26 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+1: [1d20=7] 8
22:29:33 <Mekkis> the arrow hits to door
22:29:40 <Mekkis> the arrow hits the door
22:29:48 <Mekkis> it's now Derau's turn
22:30:06 <Samsuhn> "That was a warning shot!"
22:30:29 <Mekkis> it's now Derau's turn
22:30:31 <Derau> I'll move 6 NE
22:30:32 <Buck> "So was mine !!"
22:30:44 <Mekkis> ok
22:30:48 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
22:31:01 <Valkur> move forward 20 ft
22:31:12 <Valkur> shoot with my light crossbow
22:31:14 <Mekkis> standard action remains
22:31:20 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+3
22:31:21 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+3: [1d20=18] 21
22:31:25 <Mekkis> hits
22:31:26 <Mekkis> roll damage
22:31:38 <Valkur> !throw 1d6
22:31:38 <diebot> Valkur, 1d6: [1d6=5] 5
22:31:57 <Mekkis> the bolt buries itself in his chest
22:32:07 <Derau> Nah, I can tell Avatar and Ballig apart, now.
22:32:13 <Valkur> "are you ok mr.guard"
22:32:15 <Valkur> ?
22:32:20 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
22:32:21 <Buck> I ride out
22:32:22 <Buck> and reload
22:32:31 <Mekkis> where to?
22:32:31 <Buck> towards Samsuhn
22:32:34 <Valkur> "does my bolt agree with you?"
22:32:35 <Buck> doesn't matter where
22:32:36 <Buck> 30ft
22:32:36 <Mekkis> ok
22:32:55 <Mekkis> he closes the gate
22:32:59 <Valkur> im fine with bein in front
22:33:15 <Mekkis> it's now Derau's turn
22:33:30 <Valkur> i will kill him. i promise.
22:34:02 <Derau> Yeah, I'll try shooting him from here
22:34:07 <Derau> penalties?
22:34:10 <Valkur> no worries i will go near him
22:34:11 <Mekkis> roll it
22:34:12 <Mekkis> -8
22:34:18 <Valkur> i'l use my cantrips, they are free
22:34:28 <Derau> !throw 1d20-7 Attack
22:34:28 <diebot> Derau, Attack: [1d20=14] 7
22:34:31 <Mekkis> miss
22:34:35 <Mekkis> it's now Samsuhn's turn
22:35:08 <Valkur> 30 feet
22:36:03 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1
22:36:03 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+1: [1d20=8] 9
22:36:07 <Mekkis> miss
22:36:16 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
22:36:35 <Valkur> move to m16
22:36:55 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+3
22:36:56 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+3: [1d20=19] 22
22:37:04 <Mekkis> hits
22:37:07 <Mekkis> roll damage
22:37:09 <Valkur> !throw 1d3
22:37:09 <diebot> Valkur, 1d3: [1d3=1] 1
22:37:14 <Mekkis> he's slightly chilled
22:37:20 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
22:37:23 <Buck> I ride to
22:38:38 <Mekkis> roll it
22:38:43 <Buck> !throw 1d20+7
22:38:43 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+7: [1d20=3] 10
22:38:50 <Mekkis> the bullet goes wide
22:38:53 <Mekkis> move action remains
22:39:10 <Buck> end turn
22:39:36 <Mekkis> he locks the gate
22:39:46 <Mekkis> it's now Samsuhn's turn
22:41:21 <Mekkis> Samsuhn delays
22:41:25 <Mekkis> it's now Derau's turn
22:41:41 <Derau> I'll run at the fence and try to jump/climb it
22:41:52 <Derau> climb then.
22:41:54 <Mekkis> what's your move speed?
22:41:59 <Derau> 20
22:42:16 <Mekkis> you're at the gate now
22:42:22 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
22:42:33 <Derau> The fence, man.
22:42:54 <Mekkis> you've double moved to it regardless
22:43:01 <Derau> mmmk
22:43:05 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
22:43:09 <Derau> I have a grappling hook, too....
22:44:54 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+3
22:44:55 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+3: [1d20=19] 22
22:45:01 <Valkur> !throw 1d3
22:45:01 <Mekkis> make an attack roll against the lock
22:45:02 <diebot> Valkur, 1d3: [1d3=1] 1
22:45:06 <Mekkis> the lock is slightly chilled
22:45:17 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
22:45:52 <Buck> I ride up and put black powder inside the lock
22:46:19 <Mekkis> ok
22:46:22 <Buck> and I ride away
22:46:27 <Mekkis> ok
22:46:34 <Mekkis> it's now Samsuhn's turn
22:46:34 <Buck> how sweet is this going to be
22:46:41 <Samsuhn> acid splash the gunpowder
22:46:41 <Buck> Buck smiles a rare smile
22:46:47 <Mekkis> roll to-hit
22:46:52 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1
22:46:53 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+1: [1d20=12] 13
22:47:38 <Mekkis> your acid misses the gunpowder
22:48:01 <Derau> My turn?
22:48:03 <Mekkis> yep
22:48:09 <Derau> I'll acid dart the lock
22:48:18 <Mekkis> the lock or the powder?
22:48:27 <Derau> Uh, the powder I guess.
22:48:33 <Mekkis> roll to-hit
22:48:43 <Derau> !throw 1d20+1
22:48:43 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+1: [1d20=10] 11
22:48:46 <Derau> T.T
22:48:57 <Mekkis> miß
22:49:01 <Mekkis> ummm
22:49:02 <Mekkis> miss
22:49:08 <Derau> I get it :P
22:49:21 <Derau> I did high school german for two years.
22:50:13 <Mekkis> I think miß should be the correct spelling now
22:50:19 <Derau> Clickety click click
22:50:22 <Mekkis> Valkur's turn again
22:50:34 <Mekkis> Buck's turn
22:51:02 <Buck> I use a torch to set it alight
22:51:05 <Mekkis> sure
22:51:07 <Mekkis> BOOM
22:51:19 <Mekkis> the gate shakes, and the lock explodes into fragments
22:51:23 <Mekkis> Buck, reflex save
22:51:25 <Buck> YEP
22:51:29 <Mekkis> make one for Deb too
22:51:36 <Buck> !throw 1d20+6 buck's reflex
22:51:36 <diebot> Buck, buck's reflex: [1d20=12] 18
22:51:46 <Mekkis> you dodge the shrapnel
22:51:47 <Derau> Deb?
22:51:48 <Buck> !throw 1d20+7 dobs' reflex
22:51:48 <diebot> Buck, dobs' reflex: [1d20=7] 14
22:51:53 <Mekkis> so does Dobs
22:51:59 <Mekkis> he's used to a bit of metal shards
22:52:02 <Buck> me and Dobs smile at each other in victory
22:52:08 <Mekkis> it's now Samsuhn's turn
22:52:48 <Mekkis> Buck, perception check please
22:52:51 <Buck> @see
22:52:52 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=17] 25
22:53:22 <Buck> "Keep your range!"
22:53:28 <Derau> !save Acid: 1d20+1 Attack; 1d6+1 Damage
22:53:29 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+1 Attack; 1d6+1 Damage saved as @Acid
22:53:39 <Samsuhn> @per
22:53:39 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=16] 19
22:53:47 <Mekkis> it's now Derau's turn
22:54:03 <Derau> I'll move as far as I can inside, in a single move action
22:54:15 <Mekkis> that's 20'
22:54:22 <Derau> Can I see him from here?
22:54:26 <Mekkis> perception?
22:54:29 <Derau> @see
22:54:29 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=5] 11
22:54:41 <Mekkis> negative
22:54:44 <Mekkis> you don't see him
22:54:50 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
22:55:45 <Mekkis> roll it
22:55:56 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+3
22:55:57 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+3: [1d20=7] 10
22:56:00 <Mekkis> miss
22:56:06 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
22:56:21 <Buck> I ride 50ft east, reloading
22:56:29 <Derau> Don't you mean N?
22:56:33 <Buck> right*
22:56:42 <Mekkis> okay
22:56:48 <Mekkis> anything else?
22:56:52 <Buck> end turn
22:57:06 <Mekkis> he swings his greataxe at Valkur
22:57:09 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+3
22:57:10 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+3: [1d20=6] 9
22:57:14 <Mekkis> and misses
22:57:15 <Valkur> ac 17 sir
22:57:26 <Mekkis> it's now Samsuhn's turn
22:58:37 <Samsuhn> acid splash
22:58:42 <Mekkis> roll it
22:58:44 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1
22:58:44 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+1: [1d20=19] 20
22:58:49 <Mekkis> -4 due to firing into melee
22:58:50 <Mekkis> hits
22:58:57 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d3
22:58:58 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d3: [1d3=1] 1
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22:59:12 <Mekkis> it's now Derau's turn
22:59:33 <Derau> I'll 5' N, pulling out my morningstar on the way
22:59:37 Mekkis gives channel half-operator status to diebot
22:59:40 <Mekkis> sure
22:59:50 <Mekkis> standard action remains
22:59:55 <Derau> Then whack him
22:59:59 <Mekkis> roll it
23:00:01 <Derau> !throw 1d20+2 Attack
23:00:01 <diebot> Derau, Attack: [1d20=13] 15
23:00:17 <Mekkis> your morningstar is deflected by his chain shirt
23:00:23 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
23:00:26 <Derau> Midnight
23:00:28 <Derau> woot
23:01:03 <Derau> Gotta go guys
23:01:04 <Derau> Later
23:01:28 <Mekkis> roll it
23:01:29 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+3
23:01:29 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+3: [1d20=4] 7
23:01:32 <Mekkis> miss
23:01:37 <Mekkis> 'orribly
23:01:41 <Valkur> derau is leaving?
23:01:45 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
23:01:46 <Valkur> >_<
23:01:47 <Derau> Avoid CC, snipe with crossbow wherever possible
23:02:01 <Buck> I ready a shot at him when Derau steps away
23:02:05 <Buck> "Surrender!"
23:02:06 <Mekkis> ok
23:02:17 <Mekkis> he takes another swipe at Valkur
23:02:21 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+3
23:02:22 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+3: [1d20=14] 17
23:02:31 <Valkur> "NO PRISONERS HE SWUNG HIS AXE AT ME"!
23:02:35 <Mekkis> !throw 1d12+2
23:02:36 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d12+2: [1d12=6] 8
23:02:56 <Mekkis> it's now Samsuhn's turn
23:03:10 <Valkur> "that does it, YOU ARE DEAD"
23:03:54 <Valkur> samsuuun
23:03:55 <Valkur> lol
23:03:59 <Samsuhn> samson
23:04:00 <Samsuhn> :p
23:04:33 <Samsuhn> acid splash
23:04:35 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1
23:04:35 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+1: [1d20=9] 10
23:04:40 <Mekkis> miss
23:04:49 <Mekkis> it's now Derau's turn
23:05:29 <knifebunny> what is the URL for this channel again ?
23:05:30 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2 morningstar
23:05:30 <diebot> Samsuhn, morningstar: [1d20=8] 10
23:05:40 <Buck> !throw 1d20+3
23:05:40 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+3: [1d20=5] 8
23:05:45 <Mekkis> Buck, take your readied action...
23:05:48 <Mekkis> which is a miss
23:05:53 <Buck> I ride south 20ft
23:05:54 <Buck> down
23:05:56 <Mekkis> knifebunny, http://dnd.ballig.net/
23:06:03 <knifebunny> ty
23:06:14 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
23:06:21 * Valkur casts magic missile
23:06:22 <Mekkis> I think you'll find it in the /info command, I think
23:06:54 <Mekkis> cool
23:06:56 <Mekkis> roll the damage
23:07:01 <Valkur> !1d4+1
23:07:08 <Mekkis> \1d4+1
23:07:08 <Valkur> !throw 1d4+1
23:07:08 <diebot> Valkur, 1d4+1: [1d4=1] 2
23:07:21 <Mekkis> he's not happy...
23:07:27 <Mekkis> so he 5's towards you
23:07:42 <Mekkis> and tries to take Valkur down with him
23:07:46 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+3
23:07:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+3: [1d20=17] 20
23:07:54 <Mekkis> !throw 1d12+2
23:07:55 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d12+2: [1d12=3] 5
23:08:16 <Mekkis> the Ulfen warrior then falls over and starts bleeding out
23:09:15 <Mekkis> Derau stabilised the Ulfen warrior and Valkur
23:09:30 <Mekkis> we'll end it there, and start again in... 10 hours
23:10:09 <Buck> sweeeet
23:10:11 Buck is now known as Avatar
23:10:32 Valkur is now known as Eidren
23:10:47 <Eidren> coup de grace
23:11:23 <Avatar> gg
23:11:44 <Avatar> I'm not even tired
23:11:52 <Mekkis> I'm hungry, tbh
23:12:00 <Avatar> should've had a wicked steak like I did
23:12:09 <Mekkis> I had a stirfry
23:12:12 <Avatar> `op
23:12:16 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
23:12:20 <Eidren> i need to EAT brb >_<
23:12:21 * Mekkis removes channel operator status from Avatar
23:12:23 <Mekkis> heh
23:12:26 <Mekkis> sorry about that
23:12:27 <Avatar> maybe you should devoice us
23:12:30 <Mekkis> had to do it at least once
23:12:37 * #d&d :Can't devoice Samsuhn as they're protected (+a)
23:12:37 * Mekkis removes voice from Avatar Derau Eidren
23:12:42 Samsuhn is now known as Ballig
23:12:46 <Mekkis> * #d&d :Can't devoice Samsuhn as they're protected (+a)
23:12:52 <Avatar> good 1 Ballig
23:12:53 <Ballig> :p
23:12:57 Mekkis gives channel operator status to Ballig
23:13:07 <Ballig> at one point I think I couldn't deop myself
23:13:22 <Avatar> good times
23:13:51 <Ballig> I feel like an enchanter is pretty powerful really
23:13:55 <Mekkis> !spelldesc sleep
23:13:57 <diebot> Mekkis, A sleep spell causes a magical slumber to come upon 4 HD of creatures. Creatures with the fewest HD are affected first. Among creatures with equal HD, those who are closest to the spell's point of origin are affected first. HD that are not sufficient to affect a creature are wasted. Sleeping creatures are helpless. Slapping or wounding awakens an affected creature, but normal noise does not. Awakening a creature is a standard action (an applicatio
23:14:06 <Ballig> I have a DC 18 on my sleep spell
23:14:10 <Mekkis> Ballig, Mytiazair is an enchanter
23:14:20 <Avatar> he probably has a DC 30 on his sleep spell
23:14:24 <Ballig> ha
23:14:24 <Mekkis> nope
23:14:34 <Mekkis> only DC20
23:14:36 <Mekkis> I think
23:14:39 <Mekkis> 24 int
23:14:51 <Ballig> greater spell focus?
23:14:53 <Mekkis> and SF and GSF
23:14:54 <Mekkis> yeah
23:14:56 <Ballig> yeah
23:15:00 <Ballig> I have 18 with 20 int and SF/GSF
23:15:15 <Ballig> that's pretty useful at level 1
23:15:27 <Mekkis> (then again, he has a bunch of lesser rods of metamagic persist)
23:15:33 <Mekkis> so it's "roll twice, take worst"
23:15:44 <Mekkis> great with Suggestion and Hideous Laughter
23:15:45 <Ballig> ha
23:15:50 <Ballig> yeah
23:15:54 <Ballig> hideous laughter was so broken in 3.5
23:16:06 <Avatar> what about otto's irresistable dance
23:16:12 <Avatar> in bloody WLD
23:16:13 <Mekkis> (he bought them from the unerratad APG - back before it was erratad)
23:16:30 <Mekkis> Avatar, at 15th level, you're EXPECTED to be able to deal with ANYTHING
23:16:48 <Avatar> don't know about that
23:16:51 <Avatar> broken is broken
23:17:19 <Mekkis> Irresistable Dance is like, 8th level, right?
23:17:36 <Avatar> don't remember
23:17:42 <Avatar> Ballig: do you remember that room
23:17:57 <Ballig> it is 8
23:18:04 <Ballig> there was a "room"? I thought it was pixies in a forest
23:18:15 <Avatar> I think it was outside a hell room
23:18:16 <Avatar> in the forest
23:18:30 <Ballig> no saving throw
23:18:55 <Ballig> it is pretty terrible
23:19:07 <Ballig> no saving throw, can't take actions, provokes AOOs every round
23:22:13 <Mekkis> mind blank :)
23:22:26 <Mekkis> what about /End to Strife/?
23:22:32 <Mekkis> remember that?
23:23:36 <Ballig> that book had a few really stupid things in it
23:23:37 <Mekkis> This spell creates an invisible aura of
23:23:37 <Mekkis> divine power around the caster. All
23:23:37 <Mekkis> intelligent creatures within the spell’s
23:23:37 <Mekkis> area suddenly become aware that any
23:23:37 <Mekkis> hostile actions they take will be met
23:23:37 <Mekkis> with DIRE consequences.
23:23:49 <Mekkis> I really liked Ghandi
23:23:56 <Eidren> back
23:25:08 <Eidren> ottos dance is a level 2 spell
23:25:09 <Eidren> for bards
23:25:15 <Eidren> used to be the same for wizards
23:25:16 <Mekkis> ah
23:25:22 <Ballig> in 3.5e it's 6 for bards
23:25:24 <Ballig> and 8 for wizards
23:25:38 <Eidren> it's op lol
23:25:43 <Ballig> yeah it is
23:25:49 <Ballig> would be one of the best reasons to go bard though
23:25:57 <Eidren> tasha's horrible laughter used to be op too
23:25:58 <Eidren> lol
23:26:13 <Mekkis> Hideous Laughter?
23:26:19 <Eidren> oh hideous
23:26:20 <Eidren> lol
23:26:21 <Eidren> yeah
23:26:29 <Mekkis> it's still in Pathfinder
23:26:40 <Mekkis> the preerrata rod of persist was OP
23:26:41 <Ballig> it's still pretty powerful in pathfinder
23:26:44 <Ballig> I'll definitely be using it
23:27:18 <Eidren> are there still gelatinous cubes around?
23:27:30 <Mekkis> probably
23:27:40 <Eidren> those are awesome dungeon cleaners
23:27:54 <Ballig> bobbob needs to get some stuff to protect against that
23:28:06 <Ballig> I forget what it's called, the 1 hour protection from rust monsters and oozes
23:28:45 <Eidren> oh!! rust monsters
23:28:53 <Eidren> there's nothing safe from it lol
23:29:06 <Ballig> well, pathfinder has an oil that you can apply to your weapon/armour to protect it
23:29:07 <Eidren> save artifacts and anti rust enchanted stuff
23:29:46 <Eidren> cool, they would definitely have developed an oil against that
23:31:01 <Eidren> anyone know what the UMD roll for a cure light wounds spell is?
23:31:05 <Ballig> I could have dazed that guy to save eidren
23:31:07 <Ballig> oh well :p
23:31:08 <Eidren> erm wand
23:31:16 <Mekkis> DC20
23:31:18 <Mekkis> as always
23:31:20 <Eidren> i did not need saving.
23:31:28 <Ballig> you were so close to dying man :p
23:31:31 <Ballig> like, properly dying
23:31:33 <Ballig> not just going unconscious
23:31:35 <Eidren> close but not quite
23:31:41 <Ballig> close is far more than you want to get to
23:31:43 <Ballig> there's no confidence here
23:32:07 <Eidren> i was confident i was not going to die, too bad the guard survived.
23:32:27 <Mekkis> that can be corrected
23:32:27 <Eidren> he's taken so many hits already
23:32:35 <Eidren> 5 ,1 , 1 ,2,
23:32:43 <Mekkis> yeah
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23:32:46 <Mekkis> he had 9hp
23:32:49 <Ballig> your confidence is ill-placed
23:32:52 <Mekkis> so was on zero
23:33:11 <Eidren> HE aws lucky.
23:33:13 <Eidren> was*
23:33:19 <Mekkis> not lucky enough
23:33:26 <Mekkis> should have rolled a 12 on that last hit :)
23:33:26 <Eidren> had i rolled differently
23:33:28 <Ballig> not really
23:33:31 <Eidren> it would have ended early
23:33:34 <Ballig> lucky would have been the first hit against you landing as well
23:33:39 <Eidren> i had 3 hits on his 1
23:33:39 <Ballig> that would have definitely been a kill
23:33:53 <Eidren> how unfortunate then.
23:33:58 <Ballig> fortunate for you :p
23:34:04 <Ballig> I think you need to realise you only barely survived that encounter
23:34:11 <Eidren> i was reckless
23:34:16 <Eidren> i wanted it to end already
23:34:25 <Eidren> 1 hour for 1 fight against 2 guards
23:34:28 <Eidren> is a little bit too much
23:34:32 <Ballig> that's pretty standard
23:34:43 <Ballig> for people who don't want to die horribly
23:35:09 <Eidren> weirdly enough the combat was not real time.
23:35:17 <Eidren> 1 minute per turn is what we gave our players before
23:35:31 <Mekkis> Avatar enjoys making plans
23:35:53 <Eidren> i have nothing against it.
23:35:57 <Eidren> it's just two guards though
23:36:04 <Ballig> it's never "just two guards"
23:36:11 <Ballig> you can never tell how powerful someone will be until you are in combat with them
23:36:13 <Mekkis> Eidren, if you want to stop people from taking too long, you're welcome to just cast a magic missile at the guards
23:36:21 <Eidren> LOL
23:36:21 <Ballig> no he's not
23:36:26 <Ballig> don't even encourage that
23:36:33 <Eidren> i would not anyway
23:36:34 <Ballig> if he does that no one will want to play with him
23:36:36 <Mekkis> while I'm DMing, he is, and I encourage it
23:36:38 <Ballig> for fear of having their characters killed
23:36:44 <Eidren> i'd cast sleep next time and i'd slit their throats
23:36:48 <Eidren> keep 1 alive
23:36:49 <Mekkis> to be honest, Grolschmir would have done that
23:36:52 <Eidren> for questioning
23:37:10 <Mekkis> so would Nightmare
23:37:27 <Eidren> seriously
23:37:27 <Mekkis> Deceased wouldn't, but he'd probably do something else at them
23:37:34 <Eidren> we were sent out to help by his friend
23:37:43 <Eidren> and these idiots say he'd rather die than be helped.
23:37:53 <Eidren> do you not see that atleast a little bit odd?
23:38:05 <Ballig> before having legitimate reasoning to believe they were disingenuine you don't want to go around attacking people who might be innocents
23:38:38 <Eidren> thus i waited
23:38:39 <Mekkis> Mytiazair would disagree with you on that
23:38:40 <Ballig> if Avatar hadn't seen the surcoats I would have just cast hypnotism on them
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23:38:43 <Ballig> and suggested they let us in
23:38:44 <Eidren> for everyone else to conclude
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23:38:57 <Mekkis> !spelldesc hypnotism
23:38:58 <diebot> Mekkis, Your gestures and droning incantation fascinate nearby creatures, causing them to stop and stare blankly at you. In addition, you can use their rapt attention to make your suggestions and requests seem more plausible. Roll 2d4 to see how many total HD of creatures you affect. Creatures with fewer HD are affected before creatures with more HD. Only creatures that can see or hear you are affected, but they do not need to understand you to be fascin
23:39:16 <Eidren> WOW
23:39:21 <Eidren> akin to suggestion
23:39:26 <Eidren> which is higher in level
23:39:37 <Eidren> hypnotism used to just CC monsters
23:39:46 <Eidren> just make them stand there literally. now
23:39:58 <Eidren> it actually allows you to influence them somewhat? lol
23:42:15 <Ballig> yeah seems pretty useful
23:42:29 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Infernal Healing
23:42:30 <diebot> Mekkis, You touch a drop of devil's blood to a wounded creature, giving it fast healing 1. This ability cannot repair damage caused by silver weapons, good-aligned weapons, or spells or effects with the good descriptor. The target detects as an evil creature for the duration of the spell and can sense the evil of the magic, though this has no long-term effect.
23:42:40 <Mekkis> I love that spell
23:42:55 <Eidren> ohhh that's useful
23:42:59 <Ballig> ha, that reminds me of mavor
23:43:03 <Ballig> and his detect evil
23:43:07 <Eidren> you can detect evil aligned people too yes?
23:43:46 <Mekkis> they realised that Cheliax was the least popular faction, so gave it some great spells
23:44:04 <Eidren> I want to be in cheliax
23:44:14 <Eidren> unfortunately i need andoran for it's trait.
23:44:23 <Mekkis> which trait?
23:44:25 <Ballig> Cheliax has spells?
23:44:27 <Ballig> where do I get that
23:44:30 <Eidren> captain's blade
23:44:31 <Mekkis> well, no
23:44:48 <Mekkis> but it's for worshippers of Asmodeus
23:44:48 <Sachiru> !spelldesc Harm
23:44:49 <diebot> Sachiru, Harm charges a subject with negative energy that deals 10 points of damage per caster level (to a maximum of 150 points at 15th level). If the creature successfully saves, harm deals half this amount. Harm cannot reduce the target's hit points to less than 1. If used on an undead creature, harm acts like heal.
23:45:09 <Ballig> oh
23:45:12 <Eidren> !spelldesc Wish
23:45:12 <diebot> Eidren, Wish is the mightiest spell a wizard or sorcerer can cast. By simply speaking aloud, you can alter reality to better suit you. Even wish, however, has its limits. A wish can produce any one of the following effects. • Duplicate any sorcerer/wizard spell of 8th level or lower, provided the spell does not belong to one of your opposition schools. • Duplicate any non-sorcerer/wizard spell of 7th level or lower, provided the spell does not belong
23:45:14 <Ballig> what do worshippers of Nethys get
23:45:42 <Sachiru> @Ballig, Remind me again of what Mavor did with Detect Evil? What I saw was only the "Foresight means that the DM has to hold your hand and coach you for the entire encounter" part.
23:45:57 <Sachiru> !spelldesc Greater Mighty Wallop
23:45:58 <Ballig> it was something he did in Mekkis' campaign
23:46:07 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Channel the Gift
23:46:08 <Ballig> he was playing a vampire, from memory, and cast detect evil and was told he detected evil
23:46:14 <Ballig> so he started killing innocents thinking they were evil
23:46:18 <Ballig> the evil he detected was himself
23:46:32 <Mekkis> actually priests of his own deity
23:46:37 <Ballig> yeah
23:47:01 <Eidren> LOL
23:47:03 <Eidren> that is so cool
23:47:29 <Mekkis> Ballig, Nethys gives his wizards the spell Channel The Gift
23:47:46 <Ballig> what's that
23:47:53 <Ballig> !spelldesc channel the gift
23:48:19 <Mekkis> not in the database, it seems
23:48:47 <Sachiru> That was..
23:49:05 <Ballig> hm you can get the beginner box in PDF
23:49:05 <Sachiru> Wait, if he was playing a vampire, why in the nine hells did he have "Detect Evil"?
23:49:08 <Ballig> will it be worthwhile, Mekkis
23:49:16 <Sachiru> On his spell list?
23:49:18 <Ballig> he had cleric spells I think
23:49:23 <Ballig> he didn't realise that undead came up as evil
23:49:27 <Ballig> no matter their alignment
23:49:30 <Ballig> didn't realise because he didn't read the spell
23:49:40 <Sachiru> Yeah, but I mean, why would someone playing a vampire get detect evil?
23:49:42 <Mekkis> Ballig, I have the beginner box in PDF
23:49:48 <Ballig> is it worthwhile
23:49:49 <Sachiru> Took it to find out where his friends were?
23:49:55 <Ballig> like will I get anything from it to use on the website for beginners
23:50:00 <Sachiru> It's like a thief getting "Detect Thief".
23:50:03 <Ballig> Sachiru: he wasn't evil
23:50:03 <Mekkis> not sure
23:50:14 <Mekkis> I'll be running it next weekend
23:50:17 <Mekkis> offline
23:50:24 <Sachiru> Oh, okay.
23:50:28 <Sachiru> Back to CSI, then.
23:50:51 <Eidren> his god could have given him that
23:50:53 <Eidren> as a joke
23:51:00 <Eidren> to get him to kill innocents
23:51:20 <Mekkis> Eidren, Detect Evil detects undead as Evil
23:51:40 <Eidren> if he worshipped an evil god.
23:51:43 <Mekkis> nope
23:51:55 <Eidren> aww too bad
23:52:03 <Ballig> channel the gift isn't horrible
23:52:41 <Mekkis> anyone got logs from this channel since, say, 2008?
23:52:47 <Ballig> probably
23:52:50 <Ballig> what am I looking for
23:53:01 <Mekkis> I accidentally nuked mine in a data migration
23:53:10 <Mekkis> any chance I could get yours?
23:53:34 <Ballig> all logs from 2008 onwards?
23:53:39 <Mekkis> mmm
23:56:35 <Mekkis> if possible
23:56:57 <Ballig> I'll give you what I have
23:58:01 <Mekkis> http://dnd.pastebay.com/106856
23:58:05 <Mekkis> remember that?
23:58:22 <Ballig> haha yeah
23:58:52 <Ballig> SACHIRU'S FRIENDS WERE MEAN TO ME
23:59:13 <Sachiru> Hey, that was a long time ago.
23:59:17 <Sachiru> Live and let live.
23:59:25 <Mekkis> mind your nerdy business and let me DDOS someone!
23:59:26 <Ballig> we're not killing him
23:59:27 <Ballig> so he's living
23:59:57 <Sachiru> He lurks in another network now. Never played with him, and probably never will, since he's considered weird even by the people there, but you gotta feel sorry for the guy once in a while.