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01:10:51 <Eidren> Indra knocks his arrows one by one and lets loose
01:11:01 <Eidren> lightning charges through the angry skies
01:11:43 <Eidren> one by one the heroes fall like so many leaves in autumn
01:12:33 <Eidren> bodies strewn about seared and fleshless
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08:48:44 <Avatar-> :o)
08:55:38 <MekkisScreen> Eidren scares me sometimes
08:56:14 <MekkisScreen> although Zuki....
09:15:33 <MekkisScreen> Rubin's relationship with Zuki was rather... interesting
09:25:01 <Avatar-> he hasn't said anything like that before
09:37:46 <MekkisScreen> who?
09:37:52 <MekkisScreen> Ei...?
10:02:20 <Avatar-> yeah
10:02:38 <Avatar-> super early lunch
10:02:43 <Avatar-> I'm starving
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11:28:33 <Tashes> curse you Avatar
11:28:42 <Tashes> crashign my client. Trust you
12:40:24 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
13:14:17 <Avatar-> :o)
13:14:41 <Avatar-> this week is a bit dumb
13:15:00 <Avatar-> I think we need some pfs to straighten it out
13:29:09 <MekkisScreen> agreed
14:50:26 <MekkisScreen> did you see mytiazair's sheet?
15:27:24 <Avatar-> nop
15:27:30 <Avatar-> is it readable
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15:48:18 <Avatar-> zerib
15:48:31 <Avatar-> can you play a 2 pm game
15:48:36 <Avatar-> on the weekend
15:49:16 <Zerib> What day?
15:50:17 <Avatar-> saturday
15:50:18 <Avatar-> our time
15:50:19 <Avatar-> it's almost 5 pm now
15:50:19 <Avatar-> thursday
15:52:33 <Zerib> I dont get off work till 5 pm Wednesday through Saturday.
15:52:38 <Zerib> your time
15:53:23 <Zerib> We didnt have much work tonight and I might be able to play Saturday but I cant say anything about it being a regular basis.
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15:57:21 <Avatar-> :o)
15:57:31 <Zerib> ?
15:57:46 <Avatar-> 5 pm our time?
15:57:49 <Avatar-> came out of a tunnel
15:58:02 <MekkisScreen> when you see a gold mine, you need to be prepared for the shaft
15:58:07 <MekkisScreen> :(
15:58:26 <Zerib> The distribution center I work at we do 4 10 hour shifts
15:59:04 <Zerib> I work second shift and we go from 4 till 2 am. Its 2 am my time right now
16:00:00 <Avatar-> mmm ok
16:00:05 <Zerib> lol ya
16:00:18 <Avatar-> so you can only do saturday night games on saturdays
16:00:32 <Avatar-> I think
16:00:47 <Avatar-> that's friday night for you I think
16:01:18 <Avatar-> god I hate working out timezones
16:01:23 <Zerib> If its say an hour from right now on Saturday for you then yes
16:01:36 <Avatar-> probably two hours?
16:01:49 <Avatar-> 7 pm our time
16:01:58 <Zerib> Yes that would be better
16:02:08 <Avatar-> ok
16:02:11 <Zerib> However if you have Sunday morning or day games that would work best
16:02:19 <Avatar-> and for sunday games
16:02:24 <Avatar-> ok
16:02:37 <Avatar-> ballig will probably run a game on sunday
16:02:50 <Avatar-> actually uh
16:03:05 <Zerib> ?
16:03:09 <Avatar-> are you familiar with 3.5
16:03:12 <MekkisScreen> really? Balls is running a game?
16:03:31 <Avatar-> d&d 3.5
16:03:47 <Avatar-> mekkis: one of us likely will
16:04:12 <MekkisScreen> pfs or something else?
16:04:17 <Avatar-> I think I need a sub for LSK
16:04:56 <Avatar-> pfs man
16:04:57 <Avatar-> he doesn't run anything else
16:05:12 <Avatar-> zerib: have you never played d&d?
16:05:52 <Zerib> yes
16:05:58 <Zerib> I know 3.5 decently
16:06:48 <Avatar-> want to sub for a sorcerer?
16:07:03 <Avatar-> saturday 7 pm
16:08:49 <Zerib> I my Saturday or yours?
16:09:05 <Avatar-> ours
16:09:51 <Avatar-> 2 days and 2 hours from now
16:10:37 <Zerib> Is it built or I need to make one?
16:10:51 <Avatar-> built
16:11:00 <Avatar-> go on the site
16:11:26 <Avatar-> under campaigns, find lsk
16:11:26 <Avatar-> and look at Kade
16:11:27 <Avatar-> that's the sheet
16:13:06 <Zerib> ok let me look
16:25:50 <Avatar> have you looked
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16:26:58 <Zerib> how was he played before?
16:28:32 <Avatar> like he was the smartest person in the team that never got his way because of his size and squishiness
16:29:09 <Zerib> So think spoiled kid?
16:33:16 <Avatar> no he doesn't just think he's the smartest
16:33:18 <Avatar> he IS the smartest
16:33:32 <Zerib> LOL
16:33:33 <Avatar> he's the opposite of spoiled, he never gets anything
16:34:12 <Zerib> at 10 hes the smartes?
16:34:20 <Zerib> *smartest
16:34:36 <Avatar> it's more like he just happens to be making the smartest decisions, rather than he's using his intellect to do so
16:35:03 <Avatar> also, you're going to be starting out in mid-battle
16:35:25 <Avatar> it's near the end of the campaign and they're up against a very nasty guy
16:36:22 <Zerib> What are the letters before the spells?
16:36:58 <Avatar> schools
16:38:26 <Avatar> spell schools
16:38:35 <Avatar> i is illusion, e for evocation, c for conjuration
16:41:21 <Zerib> why does he only have 2 spells for lvl 2?
16:41:23 <Avatar> man I love my bluetooth earpiece
16:41:31 <Zerib> or will I be able to move spells around?
16:41:34 <Avatar> he's a level 5 sorcerer
16:41:40 <Zerib> They are very nice
16:41:43 <Avatar> you'll have to use what he's got
16:42:02 <Zerib> lol I am looking at d&d 3.5 spell list
16:42:08 <Avatar> he's a well-built sorcerer
16:43:47 <Zerib> I'll do my best, hopefully I dont fubar it up
16:44:01 <Avatar> you'll be fine
16:44:12 <Avatar> if you get the character killed, that's the other guy's fault for not being here
16:44:28 <Avatar> it's right near the end of the campaign
16:44:36 <Avatar> it's possible we will finish it in that session
16:46:12 <MekkisScreen> he may be a well-built sorcerer, but what we're fighting doesn't work well with him, I think
16:46:27 <Zerib> What will we be fighting?
16:47:01 <MekkisScreen> alizardfolk mage throwing lightning bolts, and a bunch of animated statues
16:47:11 <Zerib> oh....
16:47:18 <MekkisScreen> not sure how many statues are around now
16:47:25 <Zerib> lol should be interesting
16:47:34 <Avatar> yeah the lizardfolk mage kind of just became a demigod
16:47:40 <Avatar> and you're in mid-fight with him
16:47:44 <MekkisScreen> Jasim's been taking the statues out
16:47:45 <Avatar> that's where you'll begin
16:48:00 <MekkisScreen> but maybe he should grapple the mage
16:49:16 <Zerib> Have to be careful of a touch spell
16:50:48 <MekkisScreen> he's a mage... grapple seems a good way to shut him down
16:52:25 <Zerib> true, its not my character
16:52:40 <Zerib> just had a bad instance of trying to do that... didnt turn out well
16:56:25 <MekkisScreen> heh
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17:54:04 <Mekkis> great... Montreal is down
17:55:33 <Brunius> ?
17:55:47 <Mekkis> I'll need to try to reroute via sydney
17:56:51 <Brunius> Ah, I see.
17:57:01 <Brunius> Makes perfect sense now.
18:01:21 <Mekkis> maybe amsterdam
18:01:49 <Mekkis> meh
18:01:54 * Mekkis reroutes via IPv4
18:02:15 <Brunius> lol
18:02:58 <Avatar> you must've been dreading this day for a long time
18:03:31 <Mekkis> meh
18:03:33 <Mekkis> it happens
18:03:57 <Mekkis> actually, I'm rerouting via somewhere else in .nl
18:16:55 <Mekkis> Don't Reply To This Thread! 1,091 posts
18:20:01 <Ballig> a bit like the "Test Post, Please Ignore" having the highest amount of upvotes on reddit
18:23:19 <Avatar> Evaluating Intel... 100.0 100.0 0.0 100.0
18:27:17 <Mekkis> Avatar, still convinced that you can't buy magic items?
18:29:10 <Avatar> yes
18:29:12 <Avatar> that's right
18:29:17 <Avatar> perhaps it is time to continue our talk
18:30:11 <Avatar> mm I can't really pick up where we were up to
18:32:25 <Ballig> Mekkis: doesn't it say in the guide that you can't
18:34:37 <Avatar> he thinks that the fame table somehow implies that you can
18:34:45 <Avatar> but can't give a reasonable explanation as to how
18:34:57 <Avatar> somehow it is some sort of exception, though it doesn't say that
18:35:03 <Mekkis> I know that it lets you
18:35:12 <Avatar> but only because that's what everyone else does
18:35:14 <Avatar> not because the rules say it
18:35:35 <Mekkis> the rules do say it
18:35:42 <Avatar> where
18:35:47 <Ballig> my understanding is that the fame table lets you buy things from your chronicle sheet for that amount
18:35:50 <Ballig> not just anything
18:36:05 <Mekkis> you can buy anything on your chronicle sheet - without the fame
18:36:43 <Mekkis> In the Pathfinder Society Organized Play program, a
18:36:43 <Mekkis> character’s Fame score also determines the maximum gp
18:36:43 <Mekkis> value of any items she can purchase from her faction, as
18:36:43 <Mekkis> detailed on page 3.
18:36:51 <Avatar> it just says 'purchase from [your] faction'
18:37:03 <Ballig> Beyond the gear noted above, your character is restricted
18:37:03 <Ballig> to purchasing additional items from his accumulated
18:37:04 <Ballig> Chronicle sheets, or by capitalizing on his prestige within
18:37:04 <Ballig> his faction. Weapons, armor, equipment, magic items
18:37:04 <Ballig> and so on that are outside of these lists are not available
18:37:04 <Ballig> for purchase at any time.
18:37:18 <Ballig> now, "capitalizing on his prestige"
18:37:20 <Mekkis> Item Purchases: In the Pathfinder Society campaign,
18:37:20 <Mekkis> your Fame score sets the upper limit of what kinds of items
18:37:20 <Mekkis> you can purchase for your character. The higher your Fame,
18:37:20 <Mekkis> the higher your character’s purchase limit grows, thus
18:37:20 <Mekkis> allowing you to spend your gold on more expensive gear.
18:37:27 <Ballig> my understanding of that is the 1 and 2 PA you can use to get a free item
18:37:40 <Ballig> yes, gear /on your chronicle sheets/
18:37:54 <Ballig> so if you come across an item that costs 8k on your chronicle sheet, but your fame doesn't let you spend that much
18:37:55 <Ballig> you can't buy it
18:37:56 <Avatar> you could argue that gear on your chronicle sheets is just what you find on missions
18:37:57 <Mekkis> the gear on your chronicle sheets isn't from your faction
18:38:04 <Avatar> and thus not 'from your faction'
18:38:10 <Mekkis> it's spoils of war from the society
18:38:22 <Avatar> but I thought from your faction included always available items at least
18:38:26 <Ballig> that's very ambiguous
18:38:26 <Mekkis> nope
18:38:51 <Ballig> why do the rules say "that are outside of these lists are NOT AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE AT ANY TIME"
18:38:53 <Ballig> that's very clear
18:39:08 <Avatar> the Other Items section on p19 is clear
18:39:49 <Mekkis> I don't like referencing the paizo forums, but...
18:39:53 <Mekkis> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/general/organizedPlayMagicalItems&page=1&source=search#0
18:40:13 <Mekkis> (it is written by a Venture Captain)
18:40:22 <Ballig> what's a venture captain
18:40:24 <Ballig> in the scheme of things
18:40:58 <Mekkis> they manage the organised play in the community
18:41:37 <Ballig> what's the use of chronicle sheet items if they cost the same as regular items, and buy the time you can afford them you almost always have enough PA to buy them without it anyway
18:41:47 <Ballig> buy/by
18:41:53 <Mekkis> because there are times when they aren't
18:41:58 <Ballig> like when
18:42:01 <Mekkis> either because they don't exist in any source
18:42:28 <Ballig> so shouldn't chronicle sheets only bother listing those items
18:42:28 <Mekkis> or (like what happened to Mytiazair), when you're doing some uptiering and have large amounts of wealth as a result
18:43:06 <Ballig> seems a bit silly to me
18:43:08 <Avatar> so really, fame tells you what is "always available"
18:43:11 <Mekkis> Mytiazair bought his first wand of CLW from a chronicle sheet
18:43:14 <Avatar> after character creation
18:43:20 <Mekkis> you can think of it that way
18:43:40 <Avatar> Other Items does say 'or by capitalising on his prestige within his faction'.
18:43:46 <Avatar> I read prestige as prestige
18:43:50 <Avatar> not as in prestige and fame
18:44:08 <Ballig> my interpretation of that was how you can spend 2 PA to get a free 750gp item
18:44:24 <Avatar> yeah mine too
18:44:35 <Mekkis> it's because it was copy-pasted from the old Guide, before they separated prestige and fame
18:44:40 <Ballig> with that interpretation, the rule is quite clear that you can't do it
18:45:00 <Avatar> the post after the VC's post actually asks the same question
18:45:02 <Avatar> and he never replies
18:45:23 <Mekkis> because someone else answered it correctly
18:46:01 <Avatar> it must just be a badly worded section
18:46:11 <Avatar> you really have to stretch the interpretation for it to make sense
18:46:56 <Ballig> with some more gold I can buy horseshoes of speed
18:46:58 <Avatar> nobody in that thread pressed the wording of Other Items
18:47:11 <Avatar> want some of mine
18:47:13 <Ballig> yes
18:47:15 <Ballig> I just need 2k
18:47:19 <Ballig> (more)
18:47:21 <Avatar> you can't have any because I'm saving for a +1 weap
18:47:26 <Ballig> I already have a +1 weap
18:47:27 <Avatar> or possibly some mithril chainmail
18:47:29 <Ballig> and a +1 breastplate
18:47:36 <Avatar> yeah but you're already like 5 levels ahead of me
18:47:42 <Ballig> I'm not even level 5
18:47:48 <Avatar> you think you're so smart
18:47:53 <Ballig> it's true, I do
18:48:04 <Ballig> +30ft speed to my mount
18:48:06 <Ballig> that's pretty nice though
18:48:08 <Avatar> always picking on the little guy
18:48:17 <Ballig> I will be able to move 60 feet in a movement action
18:48:23 <Ballig> I could charge like 120 feet !
18:48:26 <Mekkis> Ballig, get a flying mount!
18:48:35 <Ballig> I'm not a beastrider
18:48:42 <Mekkis> take a level of druid!
18:48:48 <Ballig> I took a level of fighter
18:48:57 <Mekkis> so? take a level of druid too
18:49:04 <Ballig> nah
18:49:07 <Ballig> I'm happy with my pony
18:49:12 <Ballig> though I wish he had the advanced simple template
18:49:18 <Ballig> the bestiary says they exist, but gives no guidance on how to get them
18:49:49 <Mekkis> do you need to do it?
18:50:05 <Ballig> do what
18:50:17 <Mekkis> give it the advanced simple template?
18:50:28 <Ballig> I don't think you can "give it", I think you need to find a pony that already has it
18:50:35 <Ballig> it's the difference between a light horse and a heavy horse
18:50:39 <Mekkis> I haven't read cavalier
18:50:50 <Ballig> it isn't a cavalier thing
18:51:08 <Ballig> the reason that a heavy warhorse is so much better than a light horse is because of the advanced simple template
18:51:15 <Mekkis> bestiary p294
18:51:16 <Ballig> gives more viable attack/damage, higher AC, etc
18:51:22 <Ballig> ponies can come with that template but it's rare
18:51:29 <Ballig> well, "uncommon"
18:52:33 <Ballig> yeah that's the template but I can't just go adding it to my pony
18:53:16 <Avatar> how do you get it
18:53:20 <Avatar> do you just 'buy' a horse with it
18:53:23 <Avatar> like a heavy pony
18:53:28 <Mekkis> yeah
18:53:34 <Mekkis> if it's listed
18:53:37 <Ballig> it isn't
18:53:38 <Avatar> it's not listed
18:53:43 <Ballig> the bestiary says they exist but are uncommon
18:53:44 <Mekkis> then you can't
18:53:46 <Ballig> there is no more guidance
18:53:56 <Mekkis> unless your DM is kind
18:54:04 <Ballig> that doesn't apply in PFS
18:54:04 <Mekkis> (note: in PFS, your DM can't be)
18:54:09 <Mekkis> indeed
18:54:31 <Ballig> you can't get permanent spells in PFS can you
18:54:39 <Ballig> I'd get a heavy warhorse and reduce animal it
18:54:39 <Ballig> :O
18:54:46 <Mekkis> nope
18:54:51 <Mekkis> arguably
18:54:57 <Mekkis> people argue about it a lot
18:55:19 <Ballig> no use having something you could potentially be arguing with every DM over
18:55:33 <Ballig> anyway gotta reboot
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18:55:46 <Avatar> so there's no way to get a heavy pony?
18:57:09 <Mekkis> nope
18:57:41 <Avatar> It isn't an option in PFS. PFS equipment, including mounts, are not unlimited. Heavy Pony would have to appear on an equipment list in an approved source. So, if appears in "Mounts of Golarion" with a listing that says something like: "Heavy Pony, 250gp," and "Mounts of Golarion" were to be in the PFS list of the stuff you can have...then your gnome paladin can have a heavy pony in PFS.
18:57:59 <Avatar> man that blows
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19:00:38 <Ballig> I am back !
19:01:59 <Ballig> hopefully my sound will stop being a dick now
19:02:05 <Ballig> gogo updated drivers
19:02:09 <Avatar> turns out you will never get a heavy pony
19:02:57 <Ballig> that was pretty obvious
19:04:13 <Avatar> I don't know that it was
19:04:35 <Ballig> [7:51:51 PM] <Mekkis> then you can't
19:04:40 <Ballig> [7:52:03 PM] <Mekkis> unless your DM is kind
19:04:43 <Ballig> [7:52:12 PM] <Mekkis> (note: in PFS, your DM can't be)
19:04:47 <Ballig> how isn't that obvious
19:05:14 <Avatar> mekkis was arguing that it was irrefutable that you can buy magic items just with your fame alone 5 minutes ago
19:05:38 <Ballig> so what made it obvious in the time I was gone?
19:05:42 <Ballig> did a venture captain post it?
19:05:55 <Mekkis> Ballig, get a figurine of wonderous power as a mount!
19:06:03 <Avatar> It isn't an option in PFS. PFS equipment, including mounts, are not unlimited. Heavy Pony would have to appear on an equipment list in an approved source. So, if appears in "Mounts of Golarion" with a listing that says something like: "Heavy Pony, 250gp," and "Mounts of Golarion" were to be in the PFS list of the stuff you can have...then your gnome paladin can have a heavy pony in PFS.
19:06:04 <Ballig> that would be a hard mount
19:06:26 <Avatar> what
19:06:34 <Ballig> Avatar: who posted that
19:06:46 <Avatar> some joker
19:06:54 <Ballig> why is some joker right but mekkis not
19:07:10 <Avatar> the joker wasn't saying that magic items can be purchased at any time just based on your fame
19:07:16 <Ballig> how do you know
19:07:17 <Avatar> mekkis has lost his cred
19:07:19 <Avatar> this guy didn't
19:07:21 <Ballig> have you monitored everything he's ever said
19:07:28 <Avatar> yes you can look at people's history
19:07:34 <Ballig> what about what they say on IRC
19:07:38 <Ballig> and to people at conventions
19:07:44 <Avatar> well I am working on that
19:07:55 <Ballig> I want a full backhistory on this guy
19:07:57 <Ballig> hire a private eye if you have to
19:07:58 <Avatar> so far my information seems to be good
19:08:07 <Avatar> better than this mekkis guy
19:08:13 <Avatar> to say the LEAST
19:09:13 <Brunius> I trust Mekkis.
19:09:21 <Brunius> He seems to robotic NOT to trust :P
19:09:33 <Mekkis> I'm mentally unstable.... according to every game store I've been in
19:09:47 <Avatar> do they say that
19:09:51 <Mekkis> sort of
19:09:55 <Ballig> that's not very nice to their customers
19:10:01 <Avatar> what do you mean sort of
19:10:04 <Mekkis> they seem to fail at the "what should I try to sell this guy" test
19:10:17 <Avatar> how does that test go
19:10:28 <Brunius> I went to Mind Games in Canberra
19:10:38 <Brunius> Soooo many Magic players there.
19:10:40 <Mekkis> you know, when you walk into a gaming store, they'll categorise you into various categories
19:10:52 <Mekkis> (Magic, roleplaying, wargaming)
19:10:56 <Mekkis> and they can't stand overlap
19:11:01 <Brunius> Ha
19:11:14 <Ballig> shouldn't they love overlap
19:11:19 <Ballig> "sell ALL the things!"
19:11:29 <Brunius> So my walking in, buying an Imperial Guard Valkyrie and some Pathfinder stuff will drive them crazy?
19:11:44 <Brunius> Especially when I get all my friends to do the same?
19:11:45 <Ballig> get a pack of magic cards at the same time
19:13:34 <Avatar> get just 1 magic card
19:13:51 <Ballig> single magic cards cost more than a pack
19:13:54 <Avatar> that'll really throw off the scent
19:14:09 <Brunius> All my friends probably WOULD get magic cards :S
19:14:22 <Mekkis> Brunius, when you walk in, judge a magic tournament, spend several hours debating the finer points of the magic rules...
19:14:49 <Mekkis> then the following week, walk in with the Venture Captain of Australia and several other DMs....
19:14:54 <Brunius> Ha
19:17:00 <Ballig> is there only one venture captain in australia
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19:17:56 <Brunius> I think so.
19:18:32 <Ballig> if I kill him do I become venture captain
19:18:46 <Avatar> a loaded question
19:18:51 <Brunius> Don't think that's how it works.
19:19:12 <Avatar> but who then takes his place ...?
19:20:56 <Brunius> A respected member of the community?
19:21:16 <Avatar> ah but what if they are also killed ...?
19:21:38 <Ballig> I think if I kill enough people I will eventually become venture captain
19:22:28 <Brunius> I think if you kill enough people nobody will want to be anywhere near you.
19:22:38 <Ballig> I will kill the ones who don't want to be near me
19:22:44 <Avatar> there would be nobody left to be anywhere near him !!
19:22:53 <Ballig> and that will make me venture captain
19:23:06 <Ballig> I might even call a vote to change the title to supreme lord venture captain
19:30:15 <Avatar> I would, if I was going to go on a massacre in order to become a venture captain
19:32:05 <Brunius> Man.
19:32:14 <Brunius> Don't you guys think you might get arrested?
19:32:22 <Ballig> not if I kill enough people
19:32:34 * Brunius starts updating Derau's text file.
19:33:10 <Avatar> the law always gets in the way
19:33:13 <Avatar> we mean well
19:36:10 <Avatar> we came up with some pretty damn good campaign slogans
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19:42:02 <Brunius> Just updated Derau's sheet
19:42:11 <Brunius> Point out anything I've missed, will ya?
19:43:11 <Avatar> kaleb looks fine
19:44:58 <Ballig> do we have anyone else with a level 4-ish character
19:46:08 <Avatar> darkwhite just added me on google+
19:46:47 <Ballig> who was he again
19:48:07 <Avatar> venture captain / regional-co-ordinator
19:50:06 <Ballig> ask him if I can get a heavy pony, and I will get him to sign the chronicle sheet where I buy it
19:50:34 <Avatar> I am still waiting on answer to my chronicle sheet issue
19:50:42 <Avatar> an* answer
19:52:30 <Ballig> what issue
19:56:21 <Avatar> I don't want to create a tengu
19:56:25 <Avatar> do you want to
20:00:41 <Ballig> you can really only have two characters
20:00:46 <Ballig> because you can only get two XP from each scenario
20:01:05 <Ballig> you could maybe have four if you're able to play every single scenario that exists
20:01:25 <Brunius> You can only get two XP from each scenario?
20:01:27 <Brunius> What?
20:01:33 <Brunius> When was that introduced?
20:01:52 <Ballig> in the latest update
20:02:00 <Ballig> you can get one XP for playing, and a second XP for GMing
20:02:07 <Ballig> playing through the scenario on subsequent characters is not counted
20:02:12 <Avatar> and then you can throw that book away
20:02:33 <Avatar> unless you can convince yourself to believe that you don't want expppp
20:02:41 <Brunius> That's a bit bitchy
20:02:47 <Ballig> yeah
20:02:50 <Avatar> just a fact I think
20:02:57 <Ballig> the odd thing is, you can still play through the scenario under the "play play play" rule
20:02:59 <Ballig> it just doesn't count
20:03:07 <Ballig> so it's like... they don't mind you playing through a scenario you've already played through
20:03:15 <Ballig> they just don't want you.. having infinite characters?
20:03:16 <Avatar> I don't think play play play comes into oit
20:03:22 <Avatar> you can still play it without credit anytime you like
20:03:26 <Ballig> eh
20:03:35 <Ballig> play play play specifically mentions playing through when you've already played it once
20:03:43 <Ballig> I think by inference you need that rule to do it
20:03:57 <Avatar> so, what, you aren't even allowed to play it with a table where nobody gets exp?
20:04:05 <Avatar> I don't think that's very enforceable
20:04:13 <Ballig> that's different
20:04:16 <Ballig> because there's nothing to report
20:06:39 <Brunius> There is one exception to this rule: Tier 1 scenarios
20:06:40 <Brunius> may be played or run as many times as necessary as
20:06:40 <Brunius> a means of introduce new players or characters into
20:06:40 <Brunius> the campaign. Each time you play or GM a Tier 1
20:06:40 <Brunius> scenario, you may receive a Chronicle for the event,
20:06:41 <Brunius> but no single PC can have more than one Chronicle
20:06:41 <Brunius> for the same scenario.
20:07:01 <Brunius> So you can keep going.
20:07:07 <Brunius> Night guys
20:07:11 Brunius is now known as Brunius_AFK
20:08:58 <MekkisScreen> why would you replay a scenario?
20:09:33 <Ballig> on another character
20:10:06 <MekkisScreen> still
20:10:13 <MekkisScreen> lots of spoilers
20:10:39 <Ballig> do spoilers ruin a game for you
20:29:39 <Brunius_AFK> Why do I need to hit apply twice to add stuff to my ipod.
20:31:11 <Avatar> as in syncing ?
20:32:24 <Brunius_AFK> Yeah
20:33:42 <Brunius_AFK> So after trying since monday, I finally got this video to work on my ipod
21:24:53 <MekkisScreen> hat do you mean you can only have two characters, Ballig
21:25:18 <MekkisScreen> what*
21:25:56 <Ballig> if you can only get 2xp from each scenario. unless you do every scenario, in which case you might be able to push it to 4
21:26:00 <Ballig> case being, though, that your characters are finite
21:27:48 <MekkisScreen> given the number of scenarios, and the frequency we go through them, I don't think there's anything to worry about
21:28:48 <Ballig> the number of scenarios allow for 4 characters
21:29:27 <MekkisScreen> if we average 1 scenario a month, and they release one a month, there's nothing to worry about
21:30:04 <MekkisScreen> also: you should try to avoid excessive downtiering
21:30:57 <Ballig> that isn't the point though
21:31:40 <MekkisScreen> isn't it?
21:33:27 <Ballig> no
21:33:32 <Ballig> it's not a matter of whether it's sustainable
21:33:39 <Ballig> it's a matter of freaking out at which character you want to play a scenario
21:33:41 <Ballig> because it's /finite/
22:13:15 <Mekkis> it being the character?
22:31:00 <Mekkis> each character should not play more than 9 tier 1-2 scenarios
22:31:07 <Mekkis> hell, they should try not to play more than 6
22:39:57 <Mekkis> Ballig, you should get an Ebony Fly
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22:40:08 <Mekkis> or the goats
22:40:20 <Eidren> goats?!
22:41:03 <Mekkis> yeah
22:41:07 <Mekkis> the goats
22:41:11 <Eidren> meeeh
22:41:13 <Eidren> baaah?
22:41:15 <Mekkis> Figurine of Wonderous Powers
22:41:19 <Eidren> LOL
22:41:31 <Eidren> of all of the figurines why a goat?
22:42:00 <Mekkis> as a mount?
22:58:34 <Eidren> orcs must die is so addictive
22:58:39 <Eidren> must kill moarrrr
23:02:06 <Eidren> oiii
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