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00:06 <Ballig> you can probably do that by hooking it up to your PC
00:12 <Avatar> you can't
00:21 <Avatar> they're on folders on the kindle as well and it does nothing
00:31 <Avatar> you've got to put them in collections specifically
00:34 <Avatar> which is an annoyance
00:40 <Ballig> I'm sure they don't make people sit there with non-keyboard kindles and unnamed collections
00:41 <Ballig> there would be a way
01:20 <Avatar> the non-keyboard one is brand new as far as I'm aware
01:31 <Avatar> I'm quite pissed I didn't wait a month
01:43 <Ballig> wasn't even a month
01:47 <Ballig> these new kindles have been out for over a week
01:50 <Ballig> I just didn't want to say anything :p
02:16 <Avatar> because you knew I'd blow up over it
02:26 <Avatar> just a matter of time
02:30 <Ballig> because I know what it's like when you buy something and a week later something better comes out
03:00 <canine> hatred and homicidal thoughts.
03:03 <canine> or maybe thats just me.
03:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, snypt: here's a question.
03:34 <Mekkis> Do you agree with me that Myra and Stephen are better DMs than me?
04:54 <Avatar> based on the con?
05:08 <Avatar> keep in mind that game was the only one I've seen you DM in person
05:11 <Avatar> and I've never seen them DM online
05:17 <Mekkis> yes
05:26 <Mekkis> you've seen us three DM
05:36 <Avatar> I thought you did a solid job of it with first steps 1
05:55 <Mekkis> you've also had John DM, but it's been a while since John DMed me
06:00 <Avatar> like I thought myra's strength was that she recognised we would need help and gave it to us
06:10 <Avatar> john is a brilliant DM
06:19 <Avatar> I would say he was the best of the four of you
06:49 <Avatar> trying to think how to describe stephen
06:56 <Avatar> but I can't think of anything that stood out
06:58 <Mekkis> In my experience with Myra DMing, is that I think that she underestimates the party
07:21 <Avatar> it did feel like she was giving us more help than we may have needed
07:31 <Avatar> she specifically said at one point "I don't want to tell you what to do, but..."
07:50 <Avatar> and "so you're going to be doing this and this and that?" without us telling her anything
08:05 <Avatar> which is probably what we were going to do, but she was pushing us forward
08:11 <Avatar> that may not be a bad thing considering time constraints
08:15 <Mekkis> she's DMed four sessions with me (and played in two), and only in one of them (Hall of Drunken Heroes), did I really fear for my character's life
08:26 <Avatar> and you and your summoner
08:33 <Avatar> she was clearly having issues with it 
08:45 <Avatar> there was one thing myra did that completely rattled me
08:47 <Mekkis> Nightmare is a nightmare
08:52 <Mekkis> what?
08:53 <Avatar> do you remember earlier in the session she asked if I was a new pathfinder
09:00 <Mekkis> yes...
09:05 <Avatar> was that the npc talking
09:15 <Mekkis> not sure
09:20 <Mekkis> I think it wasn't
09:31 <snypt> im pretty sure it was
09:54 <snypt> it was actually hard to tell sometimes when she was in character
10:06 <Avatar> I thought it wasn't at the time
10:10 <Avatar> but it occured to me later it may have been
10:15 <Avatar> because I thought that was really outrageously rude
10:18 <Mekkis> was it hard to tell when I am in character, while DMing?
10:30 <Avatar> and she never did anything like it again the entire time
10:43 <Avatar> no I don't think so
10:44 <snypt> nah you were really clear Mekkis 
11:03 <Avatar> I want to talk about a specific part of first steps
11:07 <Avatar> but I don't want to spoil it for people who haven't played it
11:14 <Mekkis> to be fair, that was the third time I DMed First Steps 1
11:28 <Mekkis> PM, or do it in another channel
11:31 <snypt> it seemed like you wwere very familiar with it
11:34 <Avatar> it was the part we failed
11:39 <Mekkis> if the latter, don't make it start with #d
11:49 <Avatar> I can't tell for sure, but I think we probably should have uncovered more than you let on
12:07 <Avatar> and that's something I think I've noticed before
42:44 <Avatar> neither you nor stephen were forced to push us along like myra did
42:54 <Avatar> first steps 1 and we be goblins were both smaller modules
43:01 <Mekkis> true
43:06 <Avatar> so I give her some sympathy there
43:16 <Avatar> I think it's good that she gave us that extra help in that case
43:40 <Mekkis> as I said before, I've never felt threatened in any of her sessions
43:48 <Mekkis> oh, except Hall of Drunken Heroes
43:57 <Mekkis> which Mytiazair played
44:10 <Avatar> with your 21 diplomacy, I don't know if that character will ever feel threatened
44:13 <Mekkis> and briefly met Pharasma
44:23 <Mekkis> how does diplomacy help that?
44:35 <Avatar> you can avoid pissing people off
44:51 <Mekkis> not everyone can be diplomacised
44:58 <Avatar> you said you can't diplomacy in a fight, right
45:02 <Avatar> can you use it to say surrender
45:03 <Mekkis> correct
45:10 <Mekkis> I wouldn't allow it
45:22 <Avatar> so how does asking for surrender work
45:45 <Avatar> not from a diplomacy roll?
45:45 <Mekkis> I'd let a PC ask an NPC to surrender, and the NPC would make a judgement of the situation
45:48 <Avatar> just baesd on hp or something
45:59 <Avatar> yeah ok fair enough
46:14 <Mekkis> many times, in the Morale section of tactics, it has that sort of thing
46:21 <Mekkis> when an NPC will surrender
46:32 <Avatar> are you happy for me to run we be goblins in here
46:43 <Mekkis> I don't have a problem with that
46:58 <Mekkis> not sure if you're asking my permission or anything, though
47:05 <Avatar> I didn't realise it was so widespread that people play modules before running them
47:21 <Mekkis> there are two modules that I didn't
47:25 <Avatar> well unless you have a strong desire to run it
47:42 <Mekkis> Darkest Vengeance
47:47 <Mekkis> and Citadel of Flame
47:49 <Avatar> yeah but citadel of flame is my first PFS module and I haven't played it
47:59 <Avatar> lol darkest vengeance
48:10 <Avatar> and man here's a question I've been meaning to ask you all week 
48:16 <Avatar> how far is it from absalom to sedeq
48:16 <Mekkis> that reminds me
48:29 <Avatar> the book says 'a swift voyage'
48:37 <Mekkis> anyone want to run it for Spaceshot + a bunch of pregens
48:43 <Mekkis> when his PC reaches level 2
48:53 <Avatar> run what
49:01 <Mekkis> Darkest Vengeance
49:04 <Avatar> darkest vengeance
49:06 <Avatar> lollllll
49:10 <Mekkis> I'll roll up a character
49:12 <Avatar> bit harsh
49:25 <Avatar> I don't hate him that much 
49:36 <Avatar> I mean I wouldn't wish that module on my worst enemy
49:50 <Mekkis> I'd wish it on its creator :)
50:19 <Mekkis> then again, I've played three of the four scenarios he's written
50:24 <Mekkis> and DMed two of them....
50:24 <Avatar> absalom to sedeq
50:27 <Avatar> how far
50:29 <Mekkis> no idea
50:38 <Avatar> how am I meant to know then
50:40 <Mekkis> it'd probably be in the inner sea world guide
50:48 <Mekkis> which is in the boot of my car
50:51 <Mekkis> in Brisbane
51:02 <Mekkis> why do you need to know?
51:17 <Avatar> because they wanted to go to sedeq back to absalom to get some more stuff
51:24 <Mekkis> ha ha
51:28 <Mekkis> not happening
51:33 <Avatar> well I let them
51:37 <Avatar> they have to go back the same way anyway
51:40 <Avatar> and it says 'swift'
51:54 <Avatar> like how swift are we talking
51:55 <Mekkis> why the hell to absalom?
52:03 <Avatar> I didn't know the region
52:03 <Mekkis> the speed the boat moves
52:10 <Avatar> I only knew absalom and sedeq
52:24 <Avatar> I need to know the distance, not just the speed
52:32 <Avatar> what good will the speed do me
52:56 <Mekkis> what would be available in Absalom that's not available in sedeq
53:03 <Mekkis> four weeks
53:26 <Avatar> I don't remember exactly what it was, it was just some sort of supplies
53:40 <Avatar> so whether they went to absalom or somewhere in sedeq that had supplies, I just let them get it
53:41 <Mekkis> sedeq is a city, you know....
53:58 <Avatar> I think the book illustrates it as a desert
54:51 <Avatar> ahh you're right
55:36 <Avatar> well then the question is how far between sedeq and the citadel
56:03 <Mekkis> two weeks or so
56:19 <Avatar> is that in the text
56:22 <Avatar> or are you just making that up
56:34 <Mekkis> it's what I recall
56:38 <Mekkis> from when I ran it
56:44 <Mekkis> last year, december
56:53 <Mekkis> I generally don't like letting PCs go back to town...
57:24 <Avatar> I don't mind if they do, just as long as it's reasonable
58:40 <Avatar> I've ordered ultimate combat
58:54 <Avatar> that was pretty bad trying to play buck with borrowed books
59:18 <Avatar> didn't help that i'd expected to play mellon :P
03:25 <Avatar> did you catch the bit where I forgot to put favoured class into hp/skill points for all of level 1
03:51 <Avatar> now that I've levelled to 2, I've used up my level 2 skill points already and all my class skills have at least 1 rank, except heal
21:54 <snypt> i have to level Telum now
22:01 <snypt> meh ill do it tomorrow
22:21 <snypt> im downloading the latest sons of anarchy ep
22:49 <snypt> i had a bit of a chat with one of those geelong guys on the way home
23:19 <snypt> pretty cool dude
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53:16 <snypt> Nodwik_away_for_thanksgiving, has the packers game started yet?
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58:50 <Nodwik_away_for_thanksgiving> not that i know of
17:38 <snypt> ok thanks
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51:05 <Andvarie> Gah
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30:46 <Avatar> I'm staying home today because of the community
30:50 <Avatar> and the families
34:04 <Mekkis> ok
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34:57 <Avatar-> forget fucking work
35:32 <Mekkis> do you think http://www.rpotor.com/SerpentSkullTW/Chivane.jpg looks too futuristic?
37:34 <Avatar-> nope
49:55 <Avatar-> pretty sure I feel more tired this morning than either of the last two mornings
57:50 <Mekkis> Jerod thinks so
59:53 <Avatar-> is he online or did you stay at their place
04:08 <Mekkis> I went to their place yesterday afternoon
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04:24 <Avatar-> we talked about it in here and at unicon
04:46 <Avatar-> even I remember! ha ha!
04:55 <MekkisScreen> that there was a canberra public holiday?
04:59 <MekkisScreen> heh
06:00 <MekkisScreen> Avatar-: you need to work on you knowledge (golarion geography)
07:15 <canine> most likely
07:32 <MekkisScreen> and I'll work on my knowledge (interstate public holidays)
10:46 <Avatar-> I ordered ultimate combat last night
11:42 <Avatar-> it's a pretty impressive book, even if I wasn't playing a gunslinger, it feels like a very worthwhile buy
12:12 <Ballig> I bought it last night too
12:20 <Ballig> you are copying me
18:46 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: if I'm already wearing medium armour there's no need for me to worry about carrying a light load, right?
32:48 <Avatar-> only in terms of speed
33:12 <Avatar-> do you have any abilities that require a light load or less
33:51 <Zerib> Hello
33:58 <Avatar-> zerib roll up a character !!
34:43 <Avatar-> ballig: why did you get ultimate combat
35:08 <Zerib> ?
35:16 <Avatar-> I bought the hardcopy, not the pdf
35:30 <Avatar-> zerib: played before?
35:37 <Zerib> On here?
35:45 <Avatar-> no, in general
35:52 <Zerib> Yes I have
36:03 <Avatar-> keen to play here?
36:05 <Zerib> not 4th however.  I mainly play 3.5
36:14 <Avatar-> forget 4e
36:20 <Ballig> Avatar-: I always prefer the PDF
36:26 <Ballig> and I got it for the archetypes, but also because it's new
36:34 <Avatar-> have you played pathfinder
36:35 <Zerib> I would like to, I have been playing on RPOL.net for a while
36:45 <Ballig> what's RPOL
36:50 <Zerib> but would like something faster paced than one post every few days
37:01 <Ballig> oh, gods
37:04 <Zerib> Its kinda like a message board
37:04 <Tashes> Yes, Avatar. Still good for this weekend.. so far
37:05 <Avatar-> ballig: so do I, but I need a hardcopy for cons anyway
37:05 <Ballig> forum play
37:08 <canine> 4e = the worldofwarcraftilization of a great game.
37:20 <Zerib> What do you all mainly play here?
37:30 <Avatar-> canine you still good for sunday morning
37:35 <Ballig> pathfinder has been played the most lately
37:43 <Ballig> particularly pathfinder society because it's so easy for new people to get into
37:48 <canine> should be
37:56 <Avatar-> have you played pathfinder before zerib
38:01 <Zerib> When do you all normally play and what time?
38:06 <canine> can't say for sure yet, might have duty that morning
38:09 <Zerib> I am playing it now
38:11 <Ballig> weekends, Australian eastern daylight savings time
38:11 <canine> but as of right now I'm clear
38:46 <Avatar-> we can do saturday morning instead if that's better for everyone
38:52 <Avatar-> I'm easy either way
38:58 <Ballig> I'm easy
39:04 <canine> it all works for me
39:24 <Avatar-> tashes what's better for you
40:13 <Avatar-> zerib you in australia?
40:23 <Ballig> unlikely
40:42 <Zerib> No, I am in the states
40:44 <Ballig> he's in a US rural community
41:17 <Avatar-> what time is it there
41:27 <canine> oh, sweet
41:29 <Zerib> 21:44
41:40 <canine> the invasion gains momentum >.<
41:45 <Avatar-> probably the same boat as canine then
41:56 <Avatar-> can you play late nights
42:03 <Ballig> yeah canine and Zerib are in the same timezone
42:11 <Zerib> You all are, to a greater or lesser extent, on the other side of the world
42:12 <canine> Zerib, 9 PM - midnightish, our time
42:31 <Avatar-> up till say midnight
42:41 <Avatar-> maybe 1am
42:57 <canine> I think we hit 1 am last weekend
42:58 <Zerib> I'm trying to do math, it hurts my head
43:17 <Ballig> if we start at 10am, isn't that 7pm for canine and Zerib?
43:19 <Ballig> 7pm the night before
43:30 <canine> right
43:33 <Ballig> so either 7pm Friday night or 7pm Saturday night
43:39 <canine> game started at 8 my time last time
43:39 <Ballig> for 3-4 hours
43:44 <Zerib> Saturdays would work for me
43:46 <canine> which was 11 sunday morning for you guys I think
43:54 <canine> and you hit DST, which puts it back one hour
43:58 <Avatar-> I think it's 8
43:58 <Ballig> yeah
44:07 <Ballig> well right now it's almost 10pm there
44:09 <Ballig> and almost 1pm here
44:18 <Ballig> so we subtract 3 hours, then another 12
44:28 <Ballig> so 10am becomes 7pm
44:53 <Ballig> as long as Zerib is able to play from 7pm onwards on Friday and Saturday nights, he'll be fine
44:57 <canine> yep.
45:04 <canine> shouldn't run past midnight at the latest
45:25 <Zerib> I can only do Saturdays, I work second shift so I am at work till midnight
45:37 <Ballig> we sometimes play in the afternoon
45:41 <Avatar-> can you commit to 3 sessions
45:41 <Ballig> what time do you stay up to on friday nights
46:00 <Zerib> normally about 5 or 6
46:01 <canine> our saturday = your sunday
46:14 <Ballig> you'll be able to play in saturday afternoon games then
46:21 <Zerib> so about 3 pm your time
46:25 <Ballig> any game starting from 3pm saturday will start from m idnight friday your time
46:55 <Zerib> how how far in are you?
47:09 <Ballig> if you play pathfinder society, you can pick up in any game
47:16 <Ballig> which is why we're playing it the most at the moment
47:19 <Ballig> new people can get into it straight away
47:37 <Ballig> pathfinder society is for competition and convention play. you have a character that plays in modules that can be run by any DM
47:46 <Ballig> because the modules are sanctioned, and the characters are created using the same set of rules
47:53 <canine> Oh that reminds me, I was going to ask if any of you had played Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay 2e before
48:26 <Avatar-> brunius and spaceshot do I think
48:27 <Ballig> Brunius may have
48:35 <Zerib> Nope, I know the background very well however
48:43 <Ballig> I think spaceshot only plays 40k
48:49 <canine> I've been wanting to GM a game, but I can't find anyone who actually wants to play lol
50:25 <Ballig> you might be able to find people here
50:39 <canine> Might try to organise one
50:49 <Zerib> Death Watch is a lot of fun and fairly easy
50:56 <canine> I couldn't get into deathwatch
51:12 <canine> WFRP is more fun, DND without the rigid structure.
51:28 <canine> its like if DND was WOW, then WFRP would be UO
51:42 <Zerib> I liked it but I did an evil campaign, it was a lot of fun.
51:59 <Zerib> lol the evil ones tend to be the most fun
53:25 <Tashes> Either's fine for me. Can we start earlier than we did last week?
54:39 <Tashes> oh god mum's "singing"
55:06 <canine> brb
55:06 <Avatar_> are you better for saturday tashes
55:45 <Tashes> i can't say either way, tbh. My family are fucking crazy. 
56:01 <Tashes> This morning, i already had to take my grandfather's dog  to the vet because granddad thought the dog had caught my ear infection...
56:16 <Avatar_> ok let's aim for saturday then
56:26 <Avatar_> failing that, we'll try sunday
56:34 <Tashes> Sounds like a good idea :)
56:59 <Avatar_> ballig: fix the topic pls
57:15 <Zerib> So what time are you guys planning to play?  Also what do I need to have ready?
58:13 <Avatar_> can you commit to 3 sessions
58:28 <canine> blah, xchat refuses to let me connect with my proxy
58:58 <Avatar_> we're half way through the saturday one, so you can't join that one, but a new game will run a day or week later
59:29 <Avatar_> but you can't disappear after 1 session our it screws everybody
59:36 <Avatar_> or
59:47 <Avatar_> (not our)
00:35 <Avatar_> if you can't commit to 3, consider just keeping an eye on how it works until you can
01:06 <Avatar_> tashes: do /mode tashes -R
01:12 <Avatar_> capital R
01:23 <Tashes> ?
01:43 <Ballig> he wants to cyber you
01:53 <Avatar_> I can't pm you
01:56 <Tashes> ah
02:08 <Avatar_> austnet is a but dumb if you're not identified
02:09 <Ballig> don't worry, he's very tender
02:20 <Avatar_> you can get around it with that
02:34 <Avatar_> then we can cyber
02:45 <canine> queue porn music
02:47 <Tashes> Or you could just skype me and we could 'video chat' ;)
02:57 <Ballig> he's at work
02:59 <Ballig> on his phone
03:09 <Tashes> yay audience!
03:32 <Avatar_> wait I am installing skype from the android market now
03:42 <canine> android ftw
03:50 <Ballig> haha
04:12 <Avatar_> I'm at lunch avoiding work actually
04:30 <Ballig> caesar salad?
04:39 <Avatar_> should probably head back
04:52 <Avatar_> nah caesars started making me ill
05:00 <Avatar_> pancakes
05:04 <Zerib> sorry I was afk
05:11 <canine> Hey Zerib, what part of the states are you in?
05:22 <Zerib> three sessions?
05:33 <Zerib> I live in Ohio
05:35 <Ballig> yeah like, you can't just play in one session and then disappear forever
05:38 <canine> ah cool
05:49 <Avatar_> yeah 3 sessions
05:53 <canine> three sessions being basically one session a week for three weeks
05:59 <canine> or two in a weekend if you can fly it
06:02 <Avatar_> yep
06:11 <Zerib> Ah
06:18 <Zerib> yes I can do that
06:21 <Avatar_> possibly not consecutive weeks, depending on player schedules
06:26 <canine> right
06:28 <Zerib> I thought you meant 3 times a week
06:58 <Avatar_> but you're a player too, it's just a matter if telling us you can't do a week
07:10 <Avatar_> of telling us
07:27 <Zerib> I understand
07:30 <Avatar_> cool
07:42 <Zerib> I'll let you know if a day does not work
07:43 <Avatar_> go to the downloads section of the site
08:02 <Avatar_> get CA v2 and a char sheet template
08:27 <Zerib> for pathfinder right?
09:09 <Avatar_> pathfinder society
09:26 <Avatar_> someone can link you to a rulebook if you need one
09:41 <Zerib> Which rule book?
09:46 <Ballig> pathfinder society guide
10:16 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/scenarios/v5748btpy84k4
10:28 <Zerib> I have done Path finder but not Society
10:45 <Ballig> yeah, society is just pathfinder but there are set rules
10:58 <Tashes> apparently partykilling is against the rules
10:59 <Tashes> :(
11:00 <Ballig> so whereas in a regular pathfinder campaign you have a choice of how to determine stats, in pathfinder society it's a specific way to determine them
11:08 <Ballig> so that all characters are created equal, no matter what DM is supervising
11:51 <canine> loot distribution is taken out of the hands of the DM
11:59 <canine> which is the one thing I don't like about society
12:04 <Zerib> where do I find the ip address and ports
12:13 <Ballig> that's just when a game is in session
12:17 <Ballig> the DM gives you his own IP to connect to
12:54 <Zerib> oh, ok
13:13 <Ballig> you there, MekkisScreen?
17:57 <MekkisScreen> now I am
18:07 <MekkisScreen> want me to host devca now
18:14 <MekkisScreen> on my phone?
18:55 <Ballig> ha no
19:11 <Ballig> I wanted to know, if I'm a light load for my pony, can it go at its full speed?
20:20 <MekkisScreen> yes
20:31 <Ballig> sweet. if I drop 6 pounds I can go 40 feet on my pony
20:41 <MekkisScreen> that's why encumbera?ce is so important
20:51 <canine> magical helium balloons.
20:53 <canine> just saying.
20:55 <Ballig> ha
21:00 <MekkisScreen> remember, it includes your weight and clothes
21:04 <Ballig> yeah
21:06 <Ballig> I included that
21:43 <Ballig> I'm carrying/wearing 67 pounds, and my character weighs 39 pounds
21:48 <Ballig> (which is a pound under average for a male gnome)
22:22 <canine> I doubt there's any pathfinder society rules against making your character purge
23:06 <Ballig> haha
23:11 <Avatar_> purge?
23:13 <Ballig> "My character did a lot of exercise and lost 6 pounds!"
23:33 <canine> bullemic weight loss.
24:25 <MekkisScreen> is spaceshot here?
24:59 <Avatar_> can't you see a user list on your phone
25:12 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: no
25:44 <MekkisScreen> 900gp: muleback cords APG
25:50 <MekkisScreen> look at it ballig
26:38 <Ballig> 1000gp
27:06 <Ballig> can I get them for my pony
33:00 <Zerib> brb
38:07 <Tashes> ballig, is your pony pink?
38:15 <Ballig> obv
38:18 <canine> if it isn't, it should be
42:25 <Zerib> Back
42:28 <canine> wb
44:48 <Ballig> you should get a real IRC client
45:29 <canine> browser clients != good.
47:32 <canine> So I hear that you can claim a swathe of land in the middle of the desert in Australia for yourself if you want to.
47:36 <canine> any truth to this?
49:20 <Ballig> not really
49:31 <canine> blah.
49:39 <canine> thwarting my plots.
49:45 <Ballig> I mean, you could try. people probably wouldn't bother kicking you out
49:47 <Ballig> but why would you want to?
49:50 <Zerib> I dont want to pay $20...
49:50 <Ballig> it's a desert for a reason
49:59 <Ballig> $20 for what?
50:18 <Zerib> for a mirc client
50:26 <Ballig> you don't have to pay for it
50:57 <Zerib> I down loaded it and it said I have a 30 day trial
50:58 <canine> or use an open source client
51:52 <canine> huh weird, I just looked to see if xchat had a windows client, and it does but it costs money
52:05 <Ballig> the trial never actually runs out
52:21 <Ballig> but free ones include hydrairc, I think
52:32 <canine> Pidgin also supports IRC
53:01 <Zerib> What should I do then?
53:42 <canine> you could stick with mirc and just put up with a nag screen at startup after 30 days, or go with a free client like pidgin or hydrairc
53:47 <canine> hold on
54:15 <canine> yeah hydrairc is free
54:20 <canine> was checking to make sure on that
58:15 <Zerib> trying to set it up now
03:12 <Zerib> whats the URI?
03:17 <Ballig> au.austnet.org
03:21 <Ballig> or uh, irc.austnet.org
03:23 <Ballig> either should work
04:18 <canine> au.austnet.org is the one I use
15:47 <Zerib> There we go
16:02 <canine> welcome back
16:19 <Zerib> Took me forever
18:47 <Zerib> What is LSK?
18:56 <Ballig> a 3.5 campaign
21:14 <Zerib> I kinda like the version I had before this so I could see who is idle
23:36 <Ballig> ha
23:47 <Ballig> what client did you get
23:57 <Ballig> ah hydrairc
24:26 <Ballig> Zerib: what username do you want for the website?
24:57 <Zerib> This name
25:21 <Zerib> What do you use?
26:00 <Ballig> gave you an account with username Zerib and password: kpUgxL6L1u
26:00 <Ballig> make sure you change it when you sign in
26:04 <canine> I use xchat
26:32 <Ballig> I use mirc
27:21 <Zerib> mirc costs money right?
27:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nope
27:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you can pay for it
27:50 <canine> to register it does, but you can keep using the trial forever, you just get a nag screen when you start the program
30:20 <Ballig> I used to go to the effort of getting a crack for it
30:26 <Ballig> but I never close down mirc anyway, so the nag screen is non-existent
31:27 <Zerib> ok i'm going to try mirc
39:06 <Zerib> hello
39:19 <canine> wb
39:56 <Zerib> all this because canine didnt like my old version
40:12 <canine> no
40:15 <canine> cause Ballig didn't
40:17 <canine> I just agreed :P
40:52 <canine> but a standalone client is better than a web client anyway
41:05 <Ballig> yeah you won't use a web client for long
42:31 <canine> apparently theres a ccTLD of .sh
42:58 <canine> that would be such a great one to use for a programming blog
43:26 <Zerib> whats wrong with a web cliet
43:34 <Ballig> you just won't use it eventually
43:42 <Zerib> also what was that password again?
43:47 <Ballig> no one has ever been in here for any decent amount of time using a web client
43:53 <Ballig> kpUgxL6L1u
44:12 <Zerib> seems like the web ones are better
44:22 <Ballig> you'll forget you have it open
45:26 <Ballig> then you'll eventually forget to go to the website
45:49 <Zerib> this one I cant see who is idle, and as well no spell check!
45:56 <Tashes> i use opera's irc client quite often
46:19 <Tashes> Just to spoil your claim, ballig :p
46:50 <Ballig> you don't count
46:58 <Tashes> y?
47:40 <Ballig> because your face
47:53 <Zerib> lol
49:23 <Tashes> :(
49:36 <Zerib> I like mibbit's mor
49:38 <Zerib> *more
51:26 <Ballig> weirdo
52:51 <Ballig> "That's right, bags have genitals."
55:52 <Tashes> Show me your genitals
55:54 <Tashes> your genitals
55:57 <Tashes> genitaaailiiaaahh
56:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why are you even in here tashes? you don't play dnd, don't talk about dnd, and seem to only communicate when something random and off-topic is being said
56:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> XD
57:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm nicve
57:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nice*
57:09 <Tashes> .. i'm playing pfs
57:17 <Tashes> which seems to be more than you've ever done :p
57:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
57:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haven't see you play before, nor have I even seen a character from you
57:56 <Ballig> she played last weekend
58:00 <Ballig> YOU don't play
58:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> correction, don't play here
58:46 <Ballig> that's irrelevant
58:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not really
59:04 <Ballig> yes it is
59:08 <Ballig> we aren't talking about who plays anywhere else
59:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the channel is D&D, not MustPlayHereD&D
59:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I was
59:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I was saying she doesn't play in general
59:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> she/he/it**
59:41 <Ballig> the discussion was why she's here
59:44 <Ballig> you don't have a leg to stand on man
59:49 <Ballig> I'm not going to argue with you further, because you're an idiot
00:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> hahaha
00:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I'm not trying to argue
00:18 <canine> burn.
00:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you are
00:52 <Tashes> yeah, Spaceshot_tm2_ is just trying to insult and flame me
01:02 <Ballig> he's being his regular troll self
01:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> clearly
01:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because I'm clearly not trying to find out why she/he/it is here, because I haven't seen any indication if knowledge/playing of DnD/pathfinder
02:15 <Ballig> and yet, here she is, playing in here more than you do
02:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't believe playing here is a requirement of attendance
03:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd love to see you own a LGS
03:21 <Ballig> here's the point -> [ ] <-  and here's you ------------------------------------------------------------> (o.o)
03:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that you're retarded?
03:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> good thing I've ages away
03:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm
03:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that didn't work as well as expected
04:12 <Tashes> I don't even know what you're trying to say. 
04:12 <Tashes> gg
04:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> anywho, you're a mind fuck to communicate with because you're always so nazi about whatever you're saying
04:40 * canine hides in the corner
04:44 <Ballig> expecting logic and basic levels of reasoning makes you a nazi!
04:51 <Tashes> :o
05:01 <Ballig> I think I just won by Godwin's law though
05:05 <Ballig> am I right? am I right? ha ha!
05:09 <Tashes> This is why we don't play games with kids, Ballig 
05:10 <Tashes> ;)
05:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> this is why I hate the internets
05:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> full of btards
06:05 <Ballig> feel free to stop paying your ISP bills
06:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ggz
06:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> u so cleva
07:12 <Tashes> http://a2.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/291826_253577491355049_236124369767028_782404_2104693804_n.jpg
07:25 <Ballig> ha
09:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I could be a real dick and hurt your pissant feelings, but I still believe there are more people in here besides me with triple digit IQ
09:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but that's just me
09:32 <Ballig> this is spaceshot: http://i.imgur.com/BDnfJ.jpg
10:24 <Tashes> Sounds more like my ex's mom, tbh
10:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sounds like mom's in general, that's why ballig thought it was me
11:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mum's actually
12:30 <Tashes> Spaceshot: So gullable that he'll perpetuate my typo
12:32 <Avatar_> what are you jokers talking about
12:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig should know
12:52 <Ballig> spaceshot is being a troll
13:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not really, though it would be hard to distinguish amongst these tards currently in the chat
15:17 <Tashes> if we're all tards, why are youhere?
15:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know it's mean, but it's fun to laugh at tards thinking they're all that
16:28 <Ballig> he won't be here for much longer if he starts bagging out everyone in the channel
17:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so trolls do have feelings, interesting discovery
18:01 <Ballig> consider it your only warning
18:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> can't take some banter?
18:12 <Ballig> you've always been an annoyance, but you're starting to become a liability
18:16 <Ballig> if you start trying to drive people from the channel
18:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't believe that was the intention of the original question
18:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but it clearly (I like that word) seems to be the end result
18:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> clearly
19:56 <Ballig> seeing as you're constantly condescending to other people in the channel, for example asking who new people are and asking why other people are here
20:00 <Ballig> and then start calling everyone "retards"
20:14 <Ballig> you are fast working your way to a permban
21:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so asking why someone is in here at the same time as sharing my observations is being condescending?
21:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if you say so
22:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and if you haven't realised yet
22:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I only get offensive, insultive or whatever else you'd label calling people "retards" when others are doing the same to me
23:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> do on to others that you'd wish done on t oyou
23:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> to you*
23:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I like that motto, most people (trolls and insultees mainly) don't like it though
23:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> for some odd reason
24:08 <Ballig> you are a troll and a wanker, everyone here knows it
24:10 <Ballig> and no one here likes you
24:13 <Ballig> at best Brunius tolerates you
24:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
24:32 <Ballig> haha! if I laugh it will be like I responded but I didn't really
24:41 <canine> This is actually the first time I've ever seen you type more than one or two sentences.
24:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'm really confused of your troll label
24:51 <canine> So my opinion is blank.
24:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I'd say dick rather than wanker
25:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> canine: come to think of it it is :P
27:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and I could do a big spiel to explain myself, but I doubt ballig would care either way, or anyone who might care to listen would be wasting their time because ballig can't get his panties out of a knot
43:24 <Tashes> <Spaceshot_tm2_> why are you even in here tashes? you don't play dnd, don't talk about dnd, and seem to only communicate when something random and off-topic is being said
43:29 <Tashes> <Spaceshot_tm2_> anywho, you're a mind fuck to communicate with because you're always so nazi about whatever you're saying
43:37 <Tashes> <Spaceshot_tm2_> full of btards
43:50 <Tashes> <Spaceshot_tm2_> I could be a real dick and hurt your pissant feelings...
43:53 <Tashes> But he's' NOT insulting.
46:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the first excert was an observational based question
46:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and the rest is out of context
47:26 <Tashes> Try getting that to fly in court. You're insulting. 
49:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yes, but court logic solves all problems
49:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> wait...
01:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> canine; you can come out of hiding now, the flames are somewhat died down
01:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> as long as no one has a hidden match, it'll all be good :P
05:29 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 16th 10am (Avatar) LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
05:29 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Sun Oct  2 16:22:07 2011
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05:43 <Mekkis> what?
05:56 <Mekkis> that page says whether or not you can use it
06:24 <Ballig> by default it tells you what you can use
06:34 <Avatar> oh yeah
06:35 <Avatar> my bad
06:40 <Ballig> so the opposite of what Avatar said, almost
06:40 <Ballig> :p
06:52 <Ballig> Mekkis: spaceshot says that you and I are mean to him
06:54 <Ballig> and that's why he's a dick
07:24 <Avatar> you two are so elitist
07:26 <Mekkis> yeah
07:27 <Avatar> god i hate you and so should everyone !
07:27 <Mekkis> we are
07:36 <Mekkis> we're so elitist
07:58 <Mekkis> that's why we spend so much time running campaigns for people and developing software without charging for it
08:03 <Ballig> haha
08:13 <Zerib> lol
08:14 Brunius ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
08:25 <Avatar> stop being so high and mighty
08:26 <Ballig> he was QQing to me in PM about how Mekkis and I argue with him all the time
08:46 <Brunius> Who?
08:46 <Ballig> snypt
09:01 <Avatar> some wanker
09:02 <Avatar> was it snypt who said that
09:11 <Mekkis> we're so elitist. We notice that spaceshot's bullshitting and call him out on it
09:20 <Avatar> that becomes funnier now that I've met him if it was
09:21 <Mekkis> nope, it's Balling autocompleting s
09:25 <Ballig> how dare we say he's wrong
09:30 <Ballig> it's not, I was just being silly
09:31 <Ballig> :p
09:36 <Mekkis> oh
09:37 <Avatar> no I mean
09:38 <Mekkis> or that
09:40 <Avatar> who did you call
09:47 <Ballig> yeah, that was snypt that I called
09:51 <Avatar> hahhaa
10:00 <Brunius> Spaceshot bullshits as much as Ballig is trustworthy?
10:08 <Ballig> I'm trustworthy
10:25 <Avatar> and I bullshit
10:27 <Avatar> I think
10:31 <Brunius> So Spaceshot bullshits completely.
10:34 <Avatar> wait, I don't bullshit
11:04 <Avatar> everyone pm me anything you think a newbie needs to know when they come in here
11:06 <Avatar> I need a list
11:06 <Mekkis> brb checking in
12:52 <Tashes> *exhale*
13:12 <Ballig> yeah I stopped responding to him in PM :p
13:25 <Ballig> at first it seems like he understands, and then suddenly he's completely oblivious and thinks everyone is against him
15:11 <Tashes> kids these days
16:20 <canine> Headed to bed
16:21 <canine> night all
22:07 <Zerib> people still here?
26:20 <Ballig> sup
27:01 <Zerib> he banned?
27:10 <Ballig> nah
27:16 <Ballig> I spoke with him in private about his behaviour
27:19 <Ballig> because I want to give him a chance
27:26 <Ballig> I don't hold any hope though
27:31 <Ballig> he's been trolling people in here for over 12 months :p
29:08 <Tashes> he's been trying to drive me off since i joined
29:28 <Zerib> any reason?
29:32 <Ballig> he's just a dick
29:38 <Ballig> and will argue with anyone about /anything/
29:50 <Ballig> seriously. one time he argued that you shouldn't be tired after a day at work if you work in an office
29:55 <Ballig> that the only office job that should cause exhaustion is programming
30:09 <Ballig> (he's never had a job, he insisted he is still able to make this observation, though, because his dad works)
36:27 <Zerib> such a swell guy
36:57 <Ballig> yep, that's him
37:11 <Ballig> he's alienated everyone except maybe brunius
37:16 <Ballig> in brunius's defence, he's only 14
39:51 <Zerib> so what level and all should I have my character up to?
40:04 <Avatar-> 1
40:26 <Avatar-> everyone starts pathfinder society at level 1
40:31 <Ballig> just make sure you make the character according to the rules set out in the pathfinder society organised play book that I linked earlier
41:10 <Avatar-> yeah it's step by step
42:25 <Zerib> The main thing I dont like about pathfinder is it seems to gimp magic
42:58 <Avatar-> play a fighter
44:14 <Ballig> dunno
44:27 <Ballig> I'm certain at least three of our successes in pathfinder so far have been entirely based on the use of color spray
46:09 <Zerib> really?
46:32 <Ballig> yeah
46:40 <Zerib> ok I have just started my first pathfinder about a month ago so it just what I have seen so far
46:42 <Ballig> we've completely disabled people that would have otherwise messed us up
46:59 <Ballig> would have messed us up because they were spellcasters, actually
02:59 <Zerib> so magic is more for disables than actual damage here?
03:51 <Ballig> nope
03:55 <Ballig> that's how we've used it effectively
05:08 <Zerib> got ya
05:24 <Zerib> what do you all have so far?
06:34 <Ballig> don't worry about what else there is, you make up the party from whoever is available
12:32 <Zerib> I like to know the part is well rounded is all
12:35 <Zerib> its all good
22:26 <Avatar-> it changes, is what he's saying
22:53 <Avatar-> maybe we could use another healer
23:03 <Avatar-> cleric or oracle
23:50 <Zerib> are there any races or alignments you wont accept?
25:32 <Avatar-> no evil
26:34 <Ballig> as long as the pathfinder society organised play guidebook allows it, it's allowed
26:38 <Ballig> you need to make sure you follow it
31:12 <Zerib> got ya
31:37 <Zerib> I'll do my best to catch up before the weekend
43:01 <Tashes> .
43:19 <Zerib> so only races in the PH?
48:11 <Ballig> if that's what the book says
55:45 <Zerib> "All of the options in the PH are available to you"
55:54 <Zerib> it does not say you cant use others
58:00 <Ballig> but it does say you can only use PH
58:00 <Ballig> :p
58:38 <Ballig> but you are allowed to use classes from advanced players guide and ultimate combat
59:03 <Ballig> I kn ow that at the end of the book there's a reference that tells you what books and what in those books is legal for play
00:04 <Avatar> here's what's not legal for play: http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/resources
00:13 <Zerib> I actually dont see where it says that we cant use anything else except the PH so that's why I was asking.
00:20 <Avatar> if it's not on that page, you can use it
09:01 <Mekkis> how much background reading would you be willing to do for a campaign?
10:35 <Avatar> article-sized
10:54 <Avatar> and no cheating by saying 'hmmm... what's the word limit on articles ?'
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16:44 <Mekkis> I'll keep that in mind
25:03 <Mekkis> makes running a campaign harder
39:56 <Tashes> Fucking DH tonight was horrid. Most of it was bloody cut scene. "psykers appear, you're all arrested".
39:58 <Tashes> ... no? 
45:56 <Mekkis> DH?
46:14 <Mekkis> Tashes, what state?
47:58 <Tashes> Adelame.
48:43 <Mekkis> I won't hold that against you
48:46 <Mekkis> what's DH?
51:48 <Tashes> Dark Heresy
51:53 <Tashes> it's run in the 40k universe
53:46 <Mekkis> ah
54:03 <Mekkis> I know dark heresy
54:09 <Mekkis> I played a campaign... once
55:44 <Tashes> the gm is pissing me off so much. So's the venue.. it's held in a 24hour cafe at 6:30-11pm, so anyway you look at it you're gonna have to eat. And they don't allow you to bring yoru own food
56:42 <Tashes> gm doesn't see me as that worthwhile either, becuase i'm not as boisterous as the other guys there. I don't think that EVERY SINGLE STATEMENT has to be yelled -_-
57:20 <Mekkis> the campaign got horribly derailed
58:00 <Tashes> Our campaign was all cut scene. I was glad i took a book
58:16 <Mekkis> do something to avoid it
58:51 <Mekkis> start acting morally
58:55 <Mekkis> that's what we did
59:34 <Tashes> i tried to leave, and found an invisible wall. In a cornfield. 
59:38 <Tashes> The gm is a toolbag
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