// #d&d — 2011-10-18
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02:52:45 <Eidren> anyone up?
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05:46:23 <Ballig> at 4am? probably not :p
06:12:38 <Avatar> Mekkis: thanks
07:26:31 <Avatar> dream journal of the pallid seer is only 600gp
09:43:49 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/gmDiscussion/painlordsWhatWeTeachNewPFSPlayersMeta&page=1#7
09:49:13 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/general/painlordsWhatToExpectAtAPFSTable&page=1#0
10:23:39 <Avatar> canine
10:31:58 <Avatar-> acrobat came out with an update today that is doing pdf bookmarks properly
10:32:20 <Avatar-> makes the pathfinder srd perfectly searchable now
10:32:35 <Avatar-> pinch to zoom, unlike aldiko
10:36:27 <Avatar-> what's going on canine
10:43:33 <Avatar-> even the pathfinder core rulebook is probably not too bad to navigate now
10:59:18 <canine> hey
11:17:15 <Avatar-> what's going on
11:23:28 <canine> not much
11:23:36 <canine> getting pissed off at my computer
11:23:56 <canine> can't figure out why my disc drive won't record
11:27:50 <MekkisScreen> Avatar-: I know: it's saved my character's life once
11:28:40 <Avatar-> I didn't realise it was so cheap
11:28:47 <MekkisScreen> Gnomish reroll + Diviner Preroll + faction reroll + Pallid Seer reroll...
11:29:23 <Avatar-> diviner from wizard?
11:29:31 <MekkisScreen> ja
11:29:39 <Avatar-> what's faction reroll
11:29:45 <MekkisScreen> T-Shirt
11:29:50 <Avatar-> ah
11:30:44 <Avatar-> seems a bit unfair to be able to reroll more than once on a check
11:31:08 <Avatar-> the rules don't say you can't though, do they
11:31:26 <Avatar-> the creators would likely not think of that
11:31:44 <MekkisScreen> nope... but the Dream Journal can only be used on the killing blow
11:31:56 <MekkisScreen> and the gnomish reroll only works on a natural 1
11:32:10 <MekkisScreen> and the preroll must be declared: it isn't a reroll
11:37:53 <Avatar-> what is the pre roll
11:39:02 <MekkisScreen> beginning of your turn, you can roll 1d20
11:39:18 <MekkisScreen> and apply that result to any roll instead of rolling
11:40:03 <Avatar-> that's an odd rule?
11:40:25 <MekkisScreen> it's the foresight diviner class feature
11:40:32 <MekkisScreen> usable 3 + int times per day
11:40:52 <MekkisScreen> great if you're importing firepower
11:42:23 <Avatar-> I don't see that rule
11:42:32 <Avatar-> is it not in the core rulebook
11:42:39 <MekkisScreen> correct
11:42:49 <Avatar-> what book
11:43:26 <MekkisScreen> APG iirc
11:46:25 <Avatar-> yeah
11:50:20 <MekkisScreen>
11:50:20 <MekkisScreen> 01:46 < Avatar-> yeah [01:50] [MekkisScreen(+Riwx)] [2:austnet/#d&d(+ln [Act: 1,3,4,5,6,7]
11:50:24 <MekkisScreen> [#d&d]
11:50:55 <Avatar-> ?
11:51:03 <MekkisScreen> sorry
11:51:19 <MekkisScreen> trying to get irssi to display a time I understand
11:51:28 <MekkisScreen> (it was showing CET)
11:58:54 <MekkisScreen> do you have any exotic races boons?
12:09:08 <Avatar-> I can make a tengu
12:09:19 <Avatar-> I actually never want to
12:09:39 <Avatar-> do you reckon I can exchange it for a weaker boon
12:10:12 <MekkisScreen> you'll have to ask Stephen
12:10:41 <MekkisScreen> oh, I won a (2nd) copy of Ultimate Magic at Paizocon
12:10:48 <MekkisScreen> signed by White :)
12:36:40 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 22nd 2.30pm (Mekkis) |LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
12:36:40 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Oct 17 22:20:41 2011
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12:37:14 <MekkisScreen> you can give it to Ballig
12:37:16 <MekkisScreen> he loves tengu
12:37:18 <MekkisScreen> :)
12:37:26 <MekkisScreen> play a tengu summoner with a bunch of ravens
12:40:55 <Avatar-> I want something in return
12:54:58 <Avatar-> in retrospect I should have asked at unicon if the other two wanted to swap
12:55:19 <Avatar-> but I felt like that would seem ungrateful
12:55:55 <Avatar-> do you have darkwhite's email handy
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13:00:05 <Brunius_School> Sup
13:15:30 <MekkisScreen> not on me
15:45:13 <Avatar-> or shoot underwater
15:45:17 <MekkisScreen> :)
15:45:24 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate30
15:45:24 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 88: Satyr
15:45:27 <Avatar-> I am dreading a scenario that involves that
15:45:29 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate35
15:45:29 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 95: Orc
15:45:33 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate30
15:45:33 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 88: Satyr
15:45:35 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate30
15:45:36 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 76: Human
15:45:38 <MekkisScreen> !reincarnate30
15:45:38 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Roll: 96: Wolf
15:45:42 <MekkisScreen> heh
15:45:45 <Avatar-> because I will never get any better at dealing with it
15:46:20 <Avatar-> can I cast water breathing on my gun
15:46:32 <MekkisScreen> do
15:46:34 <MekkisScreen> no
15:46:40 <MekkisScreen> your character can't cast water breathing
15:46:50 <MekkisScreen> what sort of damage does a gun do?
15:46:54 <MekkisScreen> piercing?
15:46:58 <Avatar-> piercing
15:47:07 <MekkisScreen> welll...
15:47:12 <Avatar-> can someone else cast I mean
15:47:19 <MekkisScreen> it gets a range increment of 5', to start with
15:47:31 <Avatar-> do bullets and arrows even work when shot underwater
15:47:45 <MekkisScreen> arrows get a range increment of 5'
15:47:47 <Avatar-> vs touch ac
15:48:03 <MekkisScreen> unless (in 3.5e) you get the special bow designed for it
15:48:25 <Avatar-> 5' range increment covers it
15:48:49 <MekkisScreen> remember squirrel?
15:48:52 <Avatar-> so can I get someone to cast water breathing on my gun
15:48:53 <Avatar-> does that work
15:48:59 <MekkisScreen> and his character in ERNG?
15:49:14 <MekkisScreen> oh, probably not
15:50:59 <Avatar-> the target is "living creatures touched"
15:51:05 <MekkisScreen> indeed
15:51:38 <Avatar-> I'll have to use my crossbow that day I guess
15:51:45 <Avatar-> :(
16:21:00 <MekkisScreen> crossbows don't have the range anyway
16:21:29 <MekkisScreen> regardless, Nightmare's crossbow skills are awesome
16:26:48 <Avatar-> they don't have the range, but at least they fire
16:26:54 <Avatar-> my gun won't
16:27:19 <MekkisScreen> get a longspear
16:33:33 <Duloth> G'day, folks.
16:35:38 <MekkisScreen> !throw 2d5
16:35:39 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2d5: [2d5=3,1] 4
16:35:56 <MekkisScreen> hey Duloth
16:36:02 <MekkisScreen> how are things?
16:47:43 <Avatar-> duloth
16:47:51 <Avatar-> roll up a character !!
16:56:33 <Avatar-> mekkis: why a longspear
16:57:01 <MekkisScreen> simple. reach. two-handed. piercing. readyable
16:57:22 <MekkisScreen> simple. reach. two-handed. piercing. readyable
16:58:00 <Avatar-> my str is a bit garbage vs my dex
16:58:10 <Avatar-> especially carrying capacity
16:58:20 <Avatar-> see conversation last night
16:58:33 <Avatar-> I thought 12 str would cover me
16:58:50 <Avatar-> turns out I can barely carry my weapon and armour with it
17:00:49 <MekkisScreen> you have a mount, right?
17:01:43 <MekkisScreen> (fyi: Grolschmir has 19 str now
18:00:40 <Avatar-> yeah
18:17:58 <MekkisScreen> consistantly doing over 50 damage per hit :)
18:23:04 <Avatar-> how
18:25:55 <Avatar-> tunnel
18:32:55 <Avatar-> :o)
18:35:16 <Avatar-> I just realised why you asked if I have a mount
18:35:44 <Avatar-> there was some equipment I would have liked to keep on my person
18:36:19 <Avatar-> without the masterwork pack, I was only 1 lb below medium load with only my weapons and armour
18:37:17 <Avatar-> if I find potions in a scenario, it would be nice to not have them make me encumbered :p
18:37:54 <MekkisScreen> well...
18:38:36 <MekkisScreen> 18 str so +6 damage in two hands, +4 BAB so +6 damage for power attack. The weapon is +1, for a total of +13 damage
18:39:46 <MekkisScreen> it's a lance (small), so it does 1d6+13 damage per hit. With Spirited Charge, it's multiplied by three, so 3d6+39 damage
18:39:59 <MekkisScreen> on average, that's 49.5 damage
18:43:39 <Avatar-> is a lance the old heirloom weapon
18:43:39 <Avatar-> seems to be a must have weapon
18:44:00 <Avatar-> as are horses
18:48:52 <Ballig> you have to build for them
18:59:18 <Ballig> my cavalier does an average of 40.5 (3d6+30), the difference being because his strength is lower (not my choice, pregen)
19:00:08 <Brunius> So yesterday, I was watching Stargate on my ipod
19:00:21 <Brunius> I finish the episode, and go on to the next one
19:00:29 <Brunius> I can't understand them, turns out it's in French.
19:00:38 <Brunius> Last night I changed the audio track to english.
19:00:46 <Brunius> Now half the image is noise.
19:00:48 <Brunius> Pure noise.
19:00:54 <Brunius> Y U SO TROLL IPOD?
19:01:04 <Avatar> apple strikes again
19:01:26 <Avatar> want to see something else that'll make you feel a little bit worse about owning an ipod ?
19:01:39 <Brunius> Not really?
19:01:55 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elKxgsrJFhw
19:02:28 <Brunius> iphones are crap
19:02:30 <Brunius> full stop
19:03:44 <Avatar> Ballig: I'm not sure you do
19:03:56 <Avatar> I haven't built for them, what do you think will happen if I exchange my ransuer/rapier for a lance
19:04:02 <Avatar> apart from my carrying capacity collapsing
19:04:15 <MekkisScreen> leave the lance on the horse
19:04:25 <Ballig> you'll do okay damage, but you won't do incredible damage
19:04:26 <Avatar> but I have to carry it to use it buddy
19:04:34 <Ballig> the horse will carry it
19:04:36 <Ballig> until you need it
19:04:42 <Avatar> and what happens when I need it
19:04:46 <Avatar> then I have to start carrying it
19:04:47 <Ballig> you take it off the horse?
19:04:55 <Avatar> same problem applies
19:05:00 <Ballig> not really
19:05:01 <Ballig> you're mounted
19:05:05 <Ballig> why does your encumberance affect you
19:05:14 <Avatar> okay that's probably true
19:05:56 <Avatar> time to put on some horse with no name mood music
19:07:19 <Avatar> Ballig: have you heard of cyanogen
19:07:28 <Ballig> rings a bell
19:07:35 <Avatar> I'm told it's amazing on android
19:07:43 <Avatar> extends battery life from 1 day to 4 days, among other things
19:08:01 <Ballig> how
19:08:07 <Avatar> I have no idea
19:08:13 <Avatar> I would never be able to learn how man
19:08:53 <Avatar> I was told to use http://darkyrom.com
19:13:06 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: how do I get an advanced simple template pony?
19:27:44 <Avatar> I don't think he's ever going to answer you on that one :P
19:30:20 <Ballig> I don't think you're ever going to answer me on that one
19:30:43 <Avatar> do you want me to answer
19:32:32 <Ballig> yes
19:33:46 <Avatar> I don't know
19:33:50 <Avatar> you probably can't
19:34:00 <Avatar> you're probably stuck with a basic pony
19:34:10 <Avatar> end answer
19:35:47 <Ballig> the book says they exist
19:35:48 <Ballig> how do you get one
19:36:02 <Avatar> you find one in the wilderness and tame it I guess
19:36:03 <Avatar> handle animal
19:36:30 <Ballig> okay I'll do that next game
19:36:32 <Avatar> and at the end of the scenario, you hand it over to the pathfinder society and pay for it
19:36:40 <Ballig> ha
19:36:41 <Avatar> or tame a new one each scenario
19:43:24 <Ballig> Avatar: Deft Shootist
19:43:47 <Avatar> sorry ?
19:44:11 <Ballig> it's a feat that prevents AOOs from shooting or reloading firearms as long as you have 1 grit point
19:44:28 <Avatar> you're fucking joking
19:44:29 <Avatar> where is that
19:44:38 <Ballig> ultimate combat
19:44:49 <Avatar> I can't swap out a trait now
19:45:24 <Ballig> it's not a trait, it's a feat
19:45:27 <Brunius> It's a feat anyway...
19:45:52 <Avatar> oh
19:45:59 <Avatar> I don't think I could afford it
19:46:22 <Ballig> "afford it"?
19:46:35 <Avatar> I got point blank shot
19:46:39 <Avatar> so I can get precise shot at 3rd
19:46:44 <Ballig> you also got extra grit
19:46:46 <Ballig> ...for some reason
19:46:56 <Avatar> yeah I thought I would be using that more to repair broken weapons
19:46:59 <Ballig> deft shooter would've been a much better choice
19:46:59 <Brunius> You haven't even used any grit...
19:47:03 <Avatar> but apparently I roll 20s more than I roll 1s and 2s
19:47:04 <Ballig> he's used one
19:47:10 <Avatar> yeah I used 1 grit
19:47:19 <Ballig> but he's been screwed over by AOOs more often than once
19:47:39 <Avatar> could I argue that I've never used that extra grit
19:47:44 <Avatar> to swap it out
19:47:53 <Ballig> ha
19:48:10 <Avatar> you think I'm joking
19:48:15 <Ballig> I don't think you're joking
19:48:19 <Ballig> that's why I'm laughing
19:48:30 <Brunius> Don't do it!
19:48:34 <Avatar> deft shootist requires dodge and mobility man
19:48:56 <Avatar> if I'm lucky I'll get that at around 11th level
19:49:15 <Avatar> 9th
19:49:27 <Avatar> I don't really expect I will survive that long
19:49:44 <Brunius> I've gotta buy a light crossbow, right?
19:49:51 <Avatar> you must have a ranged weapon
19:49:51 <Ballig> er
19:49:54 <Ballig> I didn't see it requiring those
19:50:17 <Avatar> Prerequisites: Grit class feature or Amateur Gunslinger
19:50:18 <Avatar> feat, Dodge, Mobility.
19:50:42 <Avatar> Buck was always meant to be a long-range shooter
19:50:49 <Avatar> hence the horse and the musket with the 40ft range
19:51:01 <Ballig> ah there it is. it doesn't say dodge on the table
19:51:09 <Ballig> and I thought "Amateur Gunslinger, Mobility" was the one thing
19:52:17 <Avatar> I think at 3rd level that grit should be getting used more
19:52:18 <Brunius> Hmmm
19:52:23 <Brunius> What else should I buy.
19:52:30 <Ballig> a crossbow
19:52:36 <Brunius> Got it.
19:52:39 <Avatar> the reason I got extra grit is because it would be quite serious if I ran out of grit during a scenario
19:52:42 <Ballig> a mwk crossbow
19:52:44 <Avatar> and my gun was broken
19:53:11 <Avatar> what are the odds I would only roll a 1 or 2 only once in 5 scenarios?
19:53:38 <Avatar> I've rolled a 20 at least twice I think
19:53:43 <Avatar> good times
19:53:53 <Ballig> you'd have to figure out how many times you've rolled
19:53:57 <Avatar> I should probably get improved critical actually
19:54:21 <Avatar> ...at 9th level
19:54:27 <Ballig> I wouldn't mind extending my critical a bit
19:54:35 <Ballig> with spirited charge I do x4 on a crit with a lance
19:54:40 <Avatar> I don't think you gain bab faster than me
19:54:44 <Ballig> so I will do 6d6+60 damage
19:55:03 <Avatar> yeah I really need to push harder in finding a way to do more damage
19:55:11 <Avatar> at the moment it looks like I will need a siege weapon or something
19:55:17 <Ballig> that's only on a crit
19:55:20 <Ballig> you do 4d12+4 on a crit !
19:55:30 <Avatar> yea
19:55:33 <Ballig> average 30 damage
19:55:43 <Avatar> I'm doing 1d12+2 with my magic musket now
19:56:02 <Avatar> really 1d6+1, but that'll double after next game
19:56:11 <Ballig> take 4 levels of fighter
19:56:14 <Ballig> to get weapon specialization
19:56:16 <Ballig> that's another +1 !
19:56:23 <Avatar> +1 :P
19:56:38 <Ballig> +4 on a crit!
19:56:42 <Avatar> it's the same thing with trying to improve a crossbow
19:56:46 <Avatar> you can't really, can you
19:56:58 <Ballig> not easily
19:57:03 <Avatar> I might just stop buying regular bullets and just constantly put my money into poisoned bullets
19:57:26 <Avatar> oh uh
19:57:32 <Avatar> I could make a keen musket
19:57:37 <Ballig> ha
19:57:41 <Ballig> does that work on ranged weapons
19:57:47 <Avatar> it better
19:57:53 <Avatar> probably not
19:58:29 <Avatar> only piercing and slashing melee weapons can be keen
19:59:46 <Ballig> lance ;)
20:00:06 <Avatar> yeah tell me the lance isn't overpowered
20:00:12 <Brunius> What other classes rely on Wisdom?
20:00:31 <Ballig> why would I tell you that
20:00:36 <Avatar> cleric
20:00:41 <Avatar> gunslinger
20:00:47 <Avatar> I actually considered taking a level of cleric
20:00:52 <Ballig> if it's any consolation, I only do 1d6+10 damage on a regular attack
20:00:59 <Avatar> even oracle
20:00:59 <Ballig> average 13.5
20:01:04 <Brunius> Only, Ballig
20:01:10 <Avatar> that's no consolation
20:01:15 <Avatar> you never make regular attacks
20:01:17 <Ballig> you do heaps of damage don't you
20:01:33 <Avatar> the consolation is that I will more than likely hit people than you will
20:01:40 <Avatar> more than*
20:02:23 <Avatar> the funny thing is even a gunslinger would be no match for that joker at the end of darkest vengeance
20:02:25 <Avatar> who was a rogue
20:02:44 <Avatar> maybe if you had blindsight
20:03:03 <Avatar> which actually isn't outrageous at all for a gunslinger to have, since it's a pre-requisite to that killer feat I talked about earlier
20:04:39 <Ballig> what feat
20:04:40 <Brunius> Alright, I've got silvered weapons, a ranged weapon, ammo for my ranged weapon
20:04:43 <Brunius> What else....
20:04:58 <Avatar> the one that lets you ricochet a bullet off a wall
20:05:54 <Ballig> I didn't see you talk about that
20:06:01 <Brunius> I did.
20:06:09 <Avatar> ricochet shot deed
20:06:20 <Brunius> He was all like "Hey this is broken guys"
20:06:29 <Brunius> Alchemist's Fire
20:06:32 <Brunius> How much does that cost.
20:06:50 <Brunius> 20gp
20:07:37 <Avatar> buy a wand of cure light wounds too
20:07:43 <Brunius> Hmmm
20:07:45 <Brunius> Maybe.
20:07:47 <Avatar> 2PP
20:08:07 <Brunius> What's a PP?
20:08:14 <Avatar> prestige point
20:08:16 <Brunius> Is it the new equivalent of CPA or TPA?
20:08:21 <Avatar> yeah
20:08:26 <Brunius> Which one?
20:08:29 <Avatar> CPA
20:08:33 <Avatar> TPA is fame
20:08:51 <Avatar> it's intuitive once you get used to it
20:09:08 <Ballig> basically prestige points is what you have left, fame is the total you've accumulated before spending
20:09:22 <Avatar> I had a look at oracle to see if I could multiclass into it later
20:09:26 <Avatar> but that class really sucks
20:09:32 <Avatar> those curses are terrible
20:13:36 <Brunius> How much do potions weigh?
20:13:47 <Avatar> I couldn't find the weight for wands either
20:14:03 <Brunius> I know how much they weigh
20:14:19 <Brunius> 1lb
20:14:19 <Avatar> yeah how much, and source
20:14:35 <Brunius> Not sure of source
20:14:43 <Brunius> I've just got it marked on Kaleb
20:15:05 <Avatar> you probably guessed
20:15:14 <Avatar> 1lb seems heavy for a wand
20:15:17 <Avatar> it's just a light stick
20:15:49 <Ballig> a wand weighs 1 ounce
20:16:00 <Ballig> Physical Description: A wand is 6 to 12 inches long, 1/4 inch
20:16:00 <Ballig> thick, and weighs no more than 1 ounce.
20:16:08 <Brunius> Source?
20:16:13 <Ballig> Physical Description: A typical potion or oil consists of
20:16:14 <Ballig> 1 ounce of liquid held in a ceramic or glass vial f itted with a
20:16:14 <Ballig> tight stopper. The stoppered container is usually no more than
20:16:14 <Ballig> 1 inch wide and 2 inches high. The vial has AC 13, 1 hit point,
20:16:14 <Ballig> hardness 1, and a break DC of 12.
20:16:17 <Ballig> core rulebook
20:16:45 <Brunius> So we don't mark the weight?
20:17:18 <Ballig> nope
20:17:59 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_QqfEYNRlc
20:18:00 <Ballig> unless yuo want to mark it as 1/16 lb
20:18:11 <Brunius> Not particularly
20:25:59 <Brunius> Hmmm....
20:28:26 <Brunius> Avatar, how does your character feel about grenades?
20:28:36 <Ballig> probably feels good about them
20:29:25 <Avatar> yep
20:29:27 <Avatar> I did see those
20:29:45 <Avatar> keep in mind any class can buy and use them
20:30:03 <Avatar> hey, grenades would work against swarms wouldn't they
20:30:05 <Brunius> Fuse Grenade: This hollow clay container holds a small charge of explosive pow(d)er and a slow burning fuse. Lighting the fuse is a move action; 1d3 rounds later the grenade explodes, dealing 2d6 bludgeoning damage and 1d6 fire damage in a 10-foot burst (DC15 reflex save fow half). You throw a fuse grenade as if it were a splash weapon.
20:30:07 <Brunius> :DD
20:30:13 <Brunius> Would, I reckon.
20:30:23 <Brunius> I'll have to get some next scenario
20:30:25 <Brunius> And for Kaleb.
20:30:30 <Avatar> just get them now
20:30:57 <Avatar> wait a sec, 1d3 rounds
20:31:13 <Brunius> Yeah
20:31:19 <Avatar> don't know if I like that
20:31:24 <Brunius> Maybe that was fixed by the errata
20:31:27 <Brunius> Not sure.
20:31:33 <Avatar> why would it be
20:31:33 <Brunius> They changed so much stuff T.T
20:31:35 <Avatar> it makes sense
20:31:40 <Brunius> Well, yeah.
20:31:40 <Avatar> where is the errata
20:31:43 <Brunius> I guess.
20:31:44 <Brunius> The site
20:31:52 <Avatar> what site
20:31:59 <Brunius> The paizo site
20:32:00 <Avatar> link the errata
20:32:29 <Brunius> In a sec
20:32:33 <Brunius> I'm trying to find it myself
20:34:12 <Brunius> Fucking firefox
20:34:20 <Avatar> did you guys see that brilliant link I linked this morning
20:34:24 <Avatar> and posted on google+ for anyone who missed it
20:34:25 <Brunius> No.
20:34:29 <Brunius> Oh, yeah.
20:34:41 <Avatar> there were 2, but the second one was better than the first
20:34:42 <Brunius> I keep getting your google+ emails while I'm...not on google+....
20:34:48 <Avatar> good
20:34:50 <Brunius> Yeah I've been following the second one
20:34:59 <Avatar> that's intentional
20:35:02 <Brunius> That's why I grabbed a silvered weapon and alchemist's fire
20:35:16 <Brunius> http://paizo.com/download/pathfinder/PZO9410_Errata_072111.zip
20:35:22 <Ballig> what video
20:35:23 <Avatar> I really can't see the advantage of a silver weapon
20:35:30 <Avatar> how often do you come across lycanthropes
20:35:34 <Avatar> never, I think
20:35:44 <Avatar> and the benefit is pretty terrible
20:35:51 <Avatar> you automatically confirm a critical?
20:35:53 <Avatar> please
20:36:07 <Brunius> What.
20:36:18 <Avatar> what what
20:36:26 <Ballig> that's the adventurer's armory errata
20:36:31 <Ballig> where's the core rulebook errata
20:36:39 <Avatar> where's the ultimate combat errata
20:36:43 <Brunius> Go to my account on paizo
20:36:46 <Ballig> where's the APG errata
20:36:47 <Brunius> Then go to my downloads
20:36:51 <Ballig> we can't log in to your account
20:36:55 <Brunius> The common errata is there.
20:36:58 <Avatar> I can, I hacked it
20:37:04 <Avatar> want his password
20:37:13 <Avatar> now I can see what he downloaded
20:37:15 <Ballig> yeah
20:37:15 <Brunius> Feel free to share it.
20:37:24 <Avatar> and report character sheets for him
20:37:26 <Brunius> Post stupid comments on my account
20:37:27 <Brunius> etc.
20:37:56 <Ballig> I don't know which printing I have
20:39:14 <Ballig> I have fourth printing apparently
20:39:20 <Ballig> does that mean there's no errata for my rulebook
20:39:26 <Brunius> Apparently
20:41:04 <Brunius> Erratas are a PITA
20:42:28 <Ballig> because it's listed by page number
20:42:30 <Ballig> instead of section
20:42:34 <Ballig> I only want to read about cavaliers
20:43:17 <Avatar> Ballig: update acrobat on your phone
20:43:21 <Avatar> supports bookmarks now
20:43:32 <Avatar> makes reading all the books about as easy as I think it'll ever get
20:43:35 <Ballig> I don't use acrobat on my phone
20:43:38 <Avatar> yeah use it
20:43:54 <Ballig> why would I use my phone to read PDFs?
20:43:59 <Ballig> where would I be that I would want to do that?
20:44:04 <Avatar> work
20:44:25 <Ballig> I work at work
20:44:44 <Avatar> what, the entire time
20:44:49 <Ballig> yeah?
20:44:49 <Avatar> doesn't the government allow breaks
20:44:55 <Ballig> too much work to take breaks
20:45:01 <Avatar> well fuck
20:45:13 <Avatar> that is a bit of an important footnote you forgot to tell me about before I started applying for govt jobs
20:45:21 <Ballig> that's specifically my department
20:45:30 <Avatar> man change depts
20:45:37 <Ballig> lots of people do :p
20:45:42 <Ballig> I don't want to do it too early though
21:43:52 <Brunius> Avatar: Where did you get the bit about auto-confirming crits with a silvered weapon?
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21:53:34 <Eidren> or is it an entirely separate game world?
21:53:49 <Eidren> wait nvm
21:53:53 <Eidren> asmodeus is present
21:53:55 <Eidren> so it's not
21:54:18 <Mekkis> moin
21:54:30 <Avatar> shalom !!!
21:54:53 <Mekkis> who's MagicHateBal?
21:55:11 <Eidren> sterben Jude!!!
21:55:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, Mytiazair took a rather surprising spell
21:55:50 <Mekkis> it's a save-and-die spell
21:56:14 <Eidren> phantasmal killer?
21:56:39 <Avatar> MagicHateBal is Duloth
21:56:41 <Avatar> what spell
21:56:56 <Mekkis> Eidren, no, Phantasmal Killer is a save or save or die
21:57:20 <Avatar> the contents of my pack are hilarious, everything weighs 0lb
21:57:42 <Avatar> except for the powder horns which store my black powder and the black powder itself
21:57:56 <Avatar> and the weight of the bags themselves
21:58:02 <Mekkis> Terrible Remorse
21:58:05 <Mekkis> hmmm
21:58:09 <Mekkis> die, bot
21:58:12 <Avatar> what's that!
21:58:12 <Mekkis> Die, bot
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21:59:06 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
21:59:27 <Avatar> I'm Avatar
21:59:55 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Terrible Remorse
21:59:56 <diebot> Mekkis, error with query
22:00:43 <Mekkis> Die, bot
22:00:45 diebot has quit (Quit: Mekkis shot me :()
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22:01:00 <Mekkis> !spelldesc Terrible Remorse
22:01:03 <diebot> Mekkis, You fill a target with such profound remorse that it begins to harm itself. Each round, the target must save or deal 1d8 points of damage + its Strength modifier to itself using an item held in its hand or with unarmed attacks. If the creature saves, it is instead frozen with sorrow, can take no actions, and takes a -2 penalty to Armor Class.
22:01:11 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
22:02:12 <Mekkis> as in, if you make the save, you are effectively dead
22:07:46 <Avatar> that isn't really save or die
22:07:53 <Mekkis> no
22:08:02 <Mekkis> because it punishes you more if you MAKE the save
22:08:17 <Avatar> should I buy a +1 musket or a dream journal
22:08:31 <Mekkis> the +1 musket
22:08:53 <Avatar> oh wait, that's 2000gp
22:08:59 <Avatar> I keep forgetting about that
22:08:59 <Mekkis> unless you legally have a copy of the AP it's out of
22:09:13 <Avatar> well I could just buy that
22:09:40 <Avatar> now I have 4 weapons
22:09:46 <Avatar> my gun
22:09:52 <Avatar> a rapier, which is my carry-around melee weapon
22:10:01 <Avatar> a lance, which is my on-horse melee weapon
22:10:05 <Avatar> and a crossbow, which is my underwater weapon
22:10:21 <Mekkis> don't use a crossbow underwater
22:10:35 <Avatar> why not
22:10:36 <Mekkis> unless you're awesome with them, like Nightmare is
22:10:43 <Mekkis> because they have a range increment of 5'
22:10:45 <Avatar> I'm awesome with guns
22:10:54 <Mekkis> you miss
22:10:55 <Mekkis> sometimes
22:10:55 <Avatar> well that's a good point
22:11:04 <Avatar> I don't do touch attack damage with a crossbow
22:11:21 <Mekkis> underwater, use a trident
22:11:23 <Mekkis> or a longspear
22:11:55 <Avatar> because of reach?
22:11:59 <Mekkis> partly
22:12:06 <Mekkis> partly because you want a piercing weapon
22:12:16 <Avatar> lance is piercing
22:12:23 <Mekkis> (bludgeoning and slashing weapons take a 50% penalty to damage)
22:12:37 <Avatar> I think all my weapons are actually piercing
22:12:41 <Brunius> snypt!
22:12:46 <Mekkis> secondly because underwater combat is really a "race to the top"
22:12:46 <Avatar> yeah
22:12:47 <snypt> Brunius!
22:12:56 <snypt> hows it going man?
22:13:02 <Brunius> Yeah.
22:13:04 <Brunius> Totally.
22:13:08 <Brunius> Hows it with you?
22:13:15 <snypt> cant complain
22:13:17 <Avatar> what happens if you fire a gun into teh water from above water
22:13:22 <Avatar> the gun will still work
22:13:39 <Avatar> range penalty starts from the surface I guess
22:13:40 <Mekkis> (+1 to hit for high ground)
22:13:41 <Avatar> but still vs touch ac?
22:13:52 <Mekkis> no
22:13:54 <Mekkis> you miss
22:14:01 <Avatar> what
22:14:05 <Mekkis> the interface blocks LOE
22:14:06 <Avatar> I hit
22:14:15 <Avatar> automatic miss?
22:14:22 <Brunius> Why did we stop playing minecraft?
22:14:22 <Mekkis> depending on DM
22:14:31 <Mekkis> but it's a reasonable conclusion
22:14:44 <Mekkis> scorching rays always miss
22:14:48 <snypt> i still jump on a bit
22:14:51 <Mekkis> acid arrows always miss
22:14:54 <Brunius> Yeah, me too
22:14:57 <snypt> ive been working underground mostly tho
22:14:57 <Brunius> But not nearly as much
22:15:04 <Avatar> based on fire and liquid?
22:15:08 <Avatar> cmon that's not a fair comparison
22:15:11 <snypt> over near the hovel
22:15:17 <snypt> but yeah i gotta get into it more
22:15:22 <snypt> i have so many games on the go tho
22:15:35 <Mekkis> orbs of force always miss
22:15:57 <snypt> im going to lpay a few maps of mw2 then ill jump on
22:16:03 <snypt> might work on the castle a bit
22:16:17 <Avatar> depending on DM
22:16:39 <Avatar> this seems a bit strange
22:16:41 <snypt> i made an obsidian generator
22:16:43 <Avatar> how do you go spear fishing
22:16:54 <Brunius> Redstone to obsid?
22:16:57 <snypt> ye
22:17:01 <Brunius> Mmmm
22:17:05 <snypt> im thinking of making an obsidian tower
22:17:13 <Brunius> Crazy snypt is crazy
22:17:15 <Mekkis> that's a nonprojectile weapon
22:17:17 <Mekkis> they work fine
22:17:27 <Avatar> it's a thrown weapon
22:17:41 <Avatar> why would a projectile weapon be worse
22:17:41 <Mekkis> why not use a net underwater?
22:17:54 <Avatar> I want to use my gun
22:18:05 <Mekkis> just don't go underwater then
22:18:12 <Avatar> yeah that's the plan
22:18:33 <Avatar> but you and I both know things don't always go according to plan
22:19:42 <snypt> lol
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22:19:57 <Mekkis> indeed
22:20:23 <Mekkis> but, in my experience, I've only had one underwater encounter
22:20:32 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=308
22:20:37 <Avatar> I still have nothing vs swarms
22:20:48 <Mekkis> that's more important
22:21:38 <Mekkis> still, nightmare is great with a crossbow
22:22:04 <Mekkis> and Avatar, you forgot to check the "extended" box
22:23:00 <Avatar> oops
22:23:03 <Avatar> I forgot it was extended
22:23:31 <Avatar> I need to put better BB codes on it
22:23:45 <Mekkis> how much AC does full plate give?
22:24:01 <Avatar> +9
22:25:08 <Avatar> should get a shield
22:25:12 <Avatar> wait, no, weighs too much
22:25:17 <Avatar> fuck at level 4 I am raising STR
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22:26:03 <Mekkis> hehe
22:26:46 <Avatar> lame meme is lame
22:27:13 <Avatar> isn't that what silver weaps do
22:27:47 <Avatar> oh, bypasses DR
22:50:08 <Mekkis> what a waste, Avatar
23:07:10 <Mekkis> Avatar, Lance-Corporal Grolschmir of the Eagle Knights' sheet uploaded...
23:07:14 <Mekkis> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=267
23:14:24 <snypt> Brunius, i got a skin too now
23:15:13 <snypt> and a juke box
23:16:36 <Eidren> phatfinderrrrr
23:16:44 <Eidren> pathfinder*
23:17:36 <snypt> yes pathfinder
23:17:46 <Eidren> boo pathfinder!
23:17:51 <Eidren> *hisss hisss*
23:17:58 <Eidren> sigh i'm bored.
23:19:49 <snypt> come play minecraft
23:20:04 <Eidren> what's minecraft?
23:20:13 <Eidren> i mean how do you play it
23:20:15 <snypt> tis a fun game where u build stuff
23:20:21 <Eidren> i saw it looked like lego online
23:20:22 <Eidren> lol
23:20:23 <snypt> well u mine stuff then u make stuff otu of it
23:21:27 <Eidren> what else do you do there aside from build stuff?
23:22:49 <snypt> u can fight stuff
23:23:09 <Eidren> is it an online game?
23:24:17 <snypt> yeah u can play online or offline
23:25:54 <Eidren> ok thanks i'll take a look at it
23:27:51 <snypt> when im at the top of my castle my head goes into the clouds
23:28:21 <Eidren> your castle is that big huh?
23:28:24 <Avatar> Eidren: you build shit to survive, or when night comes, you are dead
23:28:32 <snypt> yeah it is pretty big
23:28:38 <Avatar> it is not 'pretty big'
23:28:44 <Avatar> it is fucking humungous
23:28:51 <Avatar> gargantuan
23:29:01 <snypt> lol
23:29:41 <snypt> oh no
23:30:43 <snypt> Avatar, i am at the maximum height i can build at
23:30:45 <snypt> =(
23:31:02 <snypt> my tower must be placed lower
23:31:29 <Eidren> what happens during nighttime
23:31:36 <snypt> monsters appen
23:31:39 <snypt> happen
23:31:44 <snypt> it is pretty epic
23:31:48 <Eidren> have you got character classes and stuff?
23:31:56 <snypt> zombies and skeletons and shit
23:32:01 <snypt> nah no classes
23:32:09 <Eidren> ah so i just bash em in
23:32:11 <Eidren> lol
23:33:09 <Eidren> minecfraft or heroes of mm6?
23:35:36 <snypt> i have never played heroes so i cant say
23:35:37 <Avatar> snypt you know what the trick is
23:35:43 <Avatar> you don't build higher
23:35:46 <Avatar> you mine out the ground
23:35:49 <Avatar> and build lower
23:36:00 <snypt> it is on a platform tho
23:36:05 <Avatar> so mine out the platform
23:36:19 <Avatar> or build off of it
23:36:20 <snypt> i think it may be high enough anyway
23:36:31 <Avatar> what you've built so far is only the tip of the iceberg
23:36:36 <Avatar> now build the foundation
23:38:06 <Eidren> try heroes of might and magic. turn based strategy though.
23:38:11 <Eidren> addictive if it's your thing.
23:38:34 <snypt> turn based is win
23:39:06 <Eidren> i love it, played 1 to 5 will play 6 as soon as it finishes downloading.
23:39:17 <Mekkis> http://www.irregularwebcomic.net/3187.html
23:44:57 <Avatar> hmmm
23:45:03 <Avatar> I should have taken a closer look at the ammo I can put into a gun
23:45:24 <Avatar> apparently I can entangle mobs by shooting them
23:45:24 <Eidren> make a magical gun..
23:45:31 <Eidren> that shoots out magic missiles
23:45:48 <snypt> badass
23:45:52 <Eidren> that way you won't have to roll touch attacks.
23:46:43 <Eidren> blunderbuss + magic missile + permanency + recharge magical item.
23:46:57 <Avatar> you're dreaming
23:47:09 <Avatar> I can use paper alchemical catridges which load quicker
23:47:10 <Eidren> one can dream all one wants.
23:47:15 <Avatar> for now, that means I can double my damage output
23:47:29 <Avatar> later it means I can double it evne more
23:47:34 <Avatar> costs 12x as much per bullet though
23:47:58 <Eidren> or a gun that fires a disintigrate spell lol
23:48:01 <Eidren> a handgun.
23:48:20 <Avatar> you created a sorcerer didn't you
23:48:26 <Avatar> you realise permanency isn't in pathfinder society
23:48:28 <Eidren> yeah
23:48:31 <Eidren> i know.
23:48:36 <Avatar> just sayin'
23:48:48 <Eidren> the pfs core has it
23:48:54 <Eidren> but since 12 is the cap
23:49:00 <Eidren> it's not attainable.
23:49:02 <Avatar> the entangling bullets are 40gp
23:49:15 <Avatar> DC 15 reflex save or entangled for 1d4 rounds
23:50:03 <Eidren> what is pfs?
23:50:08 <Eidren> is it a crystal sphere?
23:50:21 <Avatar> DC15 fort save or be bilnded for 1 round, everyone else in the area is dazzled
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