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// #d&d — 2011-10-17

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07:40:12 <Avatar> hm I've been carrying a heavy load
07:47:23 <Avatar> jesus, with my weapons and armor alone I'm carrying a medium load
08:00:57 <Avatar> there, now while I'm carrying next to nothing, I have a light load while I don't carry anything else
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08:02:05 <Avatar> I never noticed how heavy "light" armour is
08:03:55 <Avatar> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=308
08:10:12 <Mort> right this is a weekday
08:10:18 <Mort> so defintely no idling around her
08:10:22 <Mort> sigh 6 am in da monrining
08:10:35 <Mort> one hash work :(
08:10:56 <Avatar> forget work
08:11:01 <Mort> u wish.
08:11:05 <Mort> funs fun but oh well
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11:39:37 <Eidren> pew pew pew!
12:16:08 <Avatar-> agreed
12:34:08 <Eidren> avatar!
13:00:37 <Avatar-> agreed
13:37:09 <Eidren> agreed?
13:37:11 <Eidren> lol
14:30:57 <Tashes> Disagreed.
15:24:02 <Eidren> lol
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15:35:06 <Tashes> lolwat?
15:36:40 <Eidren> im just bored
15:37:07 <Tashes> http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/310968_241916229190577_182363091812558_628265_559820185_n.jpg
15:37:24 <Eidren> LOL
15:37:33 <Tashes> http://i.imgur.com/TJUoH.png
15:37:37 <Tashes> i could go all day
15:38:30 <Eidren> i think i'll go to the gym instead
15:38:30 <Eidren> lol
15:49:12 <Avatar-> tashes you agree
15:49:27 <Avatar-> don't lie
16:05:12 <snypt> oi
16:05:45 <snypt> any of you guys ever read a clockwork orange?
16:05:56 <Eidren> oi oi no
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16:14:08 <Avatar-> dumb tunnel
16:14:20 <snypt> lol wb
16:18:19 <Avatar-> thx
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17:08:15 Mekkis sets mode -i Mekkis
17:08:15 Mekkis sets mode -r Mekkis
17:08:15 Mekkis sets mode -w Mekkis
17:08:15 Mekkis sets mode -x Mekkis
17:08:19 Mekkis_znc sets mode +w Mekkis_znc
17:08:19 Mekkis_znc sets mode +i Mekkis_znc
17:08:19 Mekkis_znc sets mode +R Mekkis_znc
17:08:19 waia.wa.au.austnet.org sets mode +x Mekkis_znc
17:08:22 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: TBA (Ballig/Mekkis) |LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
17:08:22 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Mon Oct 17 16:46:00 2011
17:13:08 <Avatar> http://massively.joystiq.com/2010/03/25/exploring-eberron-can-you-really-play-free/
17:16:26 <Brunius> tl;dr
17:17:41 <Avatar> I don't care man
17:34:06 <Avatar> do slings get a str bonus
17:34:16 <Avatar> to damage
17:35:03 <Avatar> looks like it is
17:59:46 <Ballig> fuck that session demolished me
18:03:18 <Avatar> good 1
18:03:24 <Avatar> does anyone not have a 1st or 2nd level character
18:04:42 <Ballig> I have Samsuhn, a first level character
18:05:55 <Avatar> and derau is second level isn't he
18:07:14 <Ballig> yeah
18:08:16 <Avatar> did he level up after that last game
18:08:27 <Ballig> he levelled up before the last game
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18:19:32 <Brunius> ...
18:19:37 <Brunius> Really, Avatar?
18:19:43 <Avatar> really what
18:19:54 <Brunius> I was saying "No, don't go ahead! I still haven't levelled!"
18:20:02 <Brunius> For like half an hour before the game started
18:20:09 <Avatar> oh yeah
18:20:43 <Ballig> that was yesterday
18:20:45 <Brunius> Alright
18:20:46 <Ballig> he can't remember what happened yesterday
18:20:53 <Brunius> Printing Magenta character sheet no. 2
18:21:03 <Brunius> Chronicle sheet rather
18:21:36 <Avatar> it looks like you can wear a cold weather outfit anywhere
18:21:45 <Avatar> and it's the only one that gives a bonus to something
18:23:00 <Avatar> oh here we go
18:23:10 <Avatar> every characters must have an outfit to begin play, for free
18:23:10 <Brunius> What?
18:23:19 <Avatar> except they all add to your weight
18:23:31 <Avatar> my characters is only just below medium encumberance
18:23:40 <Avatar> so adding on an outfit puts him onto medium
18:24:05 <Avatar> christ
18:24:06 <Brunius> Just say you chucked it in the gutter when you started
18:24:30 <Avatar> it has all the things that let you carry weapons and whatnot
18:24:30 <Brunius> Have you got a masterwork backpack?
18:24:52 <Avatar> Explorer's Outfit: This set of clothes is for someone who
18:24:52 <Avatar> never knows what to expect. It includes sturdy boots, leather
18:24:52 <Avatar> breeches or a skirt, a belt, a shirt (perhaps with a vest or
18:24:52 <Avatar> jacket), gloves, and a cloak. Rather than a leather skirt, a
18:24:52 <Avatar> leather overtunic may be worn over a cloth skirt. The clothes
18:24:52 <Avatar> have plenty of pockets (especially the cloak). The outfit also
18:24:52 <Avatar> includes any extra accessories you might need, such as a
18:24:52 <Avatar> scarf or a wide-brimmed hat.
18:25:03 <Brunius> I see
18:25:17 <Brunius> Do you have a masterwork backpack?
18:25:28 <Avatar> I don't
18:25:30 <Avatar> where is that
18:25:32 <Brunius> Get one
18:25:38 <Brunius> Adventurer's Armoury
18:25:54 <Brunius> Adds 1 Str for the purpose of calculating carrying capacity
18:26:15 <Avatar> shit that's pretty good
18:26:33 <Ballig> get a mule cord instead
18:26:40 <Ballig> adds like 8 strength for the purpose of calculating carrying capacity
18:27:35 <Avatar> I'm not sure getting a mule cord is legal man
18:27:39 <Avatar> if it's magic
18:27:45 <Brunius> Where is it?
18:28:39 <Ballig> it's a minor wondrou sitem
18:28:58 <Avatar> yeah not legal man
18:29:21 <Avatar> I did a search on the SRD and couldn't find it though?
18:29:51 <Ballig> it's from the APG
18:29:52 <Ballig> muleback cords
18:30:07 <Ballig> page 208
18:30:08 <Ballig> er
18:30:10 <Ballig> 308
18:30:16 <Brunius> Looks like it's legal
18:30:24 <Brunius> Looking the additional resources page
18:30:30 <Brunius> How much does it cost?
18:30:33 <Avatar> 1000gp
18:30:37 <Ballig> it's not legal
18:30:41 <Avatar> it's a magic item
18:30:41 <Ballig> because it's a magic item
18:30:52 <Ballig> I mean, it's legal, but only if you find it on a chronicle sheet
18:31:04 <Brunius> Oh yeah
18:31:13 <Brunius> That crap
18:31:17 <Ballig> Avatar: masterwork backpack is 50gp
18:31:21 <Ballig> seems well worth it, I'm getting one
18:31:41 <Avatar> yeah
18:31:53 <Avatar> got to sell your existing pack :(
18:32:03 <Ballig> that might actually put me into a light load
18:32:04 <Avatar> and the masterwork pack actually weighs twice as much somehow
18:32:06 <Brunius> Oh no.
18:32:21 <Brunius> But it's worth it !!!!!!!!1!!!!!!
18:32:54 <Ballig> it weighs 1 pound for me
18:33:28 <Avatar> bastard
18:34:01 <Brunius> :P
18:34:05 <Avatar> did you buy an outfit yet
18:34:06 <Brunius> Small characters ftw
18:34:11 <Avatar> *get an outfit
18:34:14 <Avatar> (it's free)
18:34:24 <Avatar> I sort of want to just use my cold weather outfit
18:34:50 <Avatar> imagine playing something like citadel of fire in a cold weather outfit
18:35:43 <Ballig> I might buy some bear traps
18:37:38 <Avatar> I even traded my ransuer for a rapier
18:37:43 <Avatar> just because it was a lot lighter
18:38:05 <Avatar> and sold off my crossbow because that was just bringing me down
18:38:17 <Ballig> what are you in? medium encumberance?
18:38:24 <Avatar> yeah I was 1lb below
18:38:44 <Avatar> I put my outfit on my horse so that I didn't have to carry that weight either
18:38:47 <Avatar> but apparently now I am naked
18:38:58 <Ballig> 1lb below medium or 1lb below heavy?
18:39:06 <Avatar> medium
18:39:10 <Avatar> I was heavy
18:39:13 <Ballig> er
18:39:14 <Avatar> I had to move fucking everything over
18:39:15 <Ballig> so 1lb below heavy
18:39:21 <Avatar> no
18:39:25 <Avatar> before I checked all this
18:39:26 <Avatar> I was heavy
18:39:28 <Ballig> what actual load do you have right now
18:39:30 <Ballig> you have light?
18:39:31 <Avatar> like all day yesterday I was heavy
18:39:36 <Avatar> now I am 1lb below light
18:39:40 <Avatar> before the masterwork backpack
18:39:47 <Avatar> and before giving myself clothes to wear
18:39:48 <Ballig> you're trying to stay light?
18:39:52 <Avatar> yeah of course
18:39:55 <Ballig> why?
18:39:57 <Ballig> don't you wear medium armour?
18:40:00 <Avatar> you get penalties
18:40:02 <Avatar> no
18:40:04 <Avatar> studded leather
18:40:08 <Ballig> ahh
18:40:23 <Ballig> spider's silk rope is expensive
18:40:29 <Avatar> I'd consider upgrading my armor too if it wasn't too damn heavy
18:40:29 <Brunius> It is
18:40:35 <Brunius> lol
18:41:14 <Ballig> wearing medium armour gives you penalties that don't stack with medium encumberance
18:41:22 <Ballig> so if you were already willing to take those penalties, there's no reason to stay light
18:42:17 <Ballig> dude, swarmsuit
18:42:42 <Ballig> 20 gold, gives you DR against diminuitive and fine swarms
18:43:07 <Avatar> I have to find out if I can shoot swarms
18:43:18 <Ballig> not the really small ones
18:43:20 <Ballig> weapons don't work on them
18:43:29 <Avatar> what book is swarmsuit in
18:43:55 <Ballig> APG
18:44:08 <Ballig> wearing it makes you walk at half speed, so you can't wear it all the time
18:44:23 <Ballig> but that's still some awesome protection against swarms
18:44:57 <Avatar> I'm not willing to take a penalty to speed
18:45:09 <Avatar> and I took a trait that reduces my AC check penalty from 1 to 0
18:45:55 <Ballig> I just said you can't wear it all the time
18:46:11 <Avatar> Wearing a swarmsuit
18:46:11 <Avatar> cuts your speed in half, but gives you DR 10/— against
18:46:11 <Avatar> swarms of Fine creatures and DR 5/— against swarms of
18:46:11 <Avatar> Diminutive creatures.
18:46:17 <Avatar> oh
18:46:18 <Ballig> what did I just say, christ
18:46:23 <Avatar> I was reading it dammit
18:46:34 <Avatar> oooer string
18:46:36 <Avatar> I was looking for that
18:46:39 <Ballig> ha
18:47:06 <Ballig> alchemical grease
18:47:18 <Ballig> +5 bonus to avoid being grappled
18:48:45 <Ballig> I should buy some Bladeguard Just In Case
18:48:58 <Ballig> protects a weapon from ooze/rust monster damage for 24 hours
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18:49:43 <Avatar> I won't be needing that
18:49:51 <Ballig> I will
18:49:54 <Avatar> rust monsters had best be running the other direction
18:50:04 <Avatar> quickly, before Dobs catches up
18:50:30 <Avatar> by the way, uh
18:50:32 <Avatar> when my gun misfired, I was supposed to take damage
18:51:02 <Avatar> I think
18:51:03 <Ballig> how much damage
18:51:17 <Mekkis_znc> moin
18:51:32 <Avatar> oh wait no
18:51:37 <Avatar> that's only if it misfires when being broken
18:51:59 <Avatar> I believe it's the same amount of damage the gun does
18:52:08 <Ballig> [Ballig] 1d12 -- 8 +1 (Total: 9)
18:52:13 <Ballig> you could have died !
18:52:17 <Avatar> except it doesnt' just hurt me, it hurts everyone in an area
18:52:25 <Ballig> yeah
18:52:28 <Ballig> the area depends on the gun
18:52:28 <Avatar> and I get to pick where abouts
18:52:29 <Avatar> haha
18:52:38 <Avatar> that doesn't seem fair at all
18:52:58 <Avatar> Mekkis: do you have an outfit
18:55:19 <Ballig> weapon blanch would be good if it lasted for more than one attack
18:55:25 <Ballig> although it might be worthwhile for a good charge
18:55:41 <Mekkis_znc> my characters do
18:56:02 <Avatar> is there anything stopping you buying a cold weather outfit for everyday use
18:56:14 <Mekkis_znc> not sure
18:56:20 <Mekkis_znc> people will give you looks
18:56:38 <Avatar> skill check penalising looks?
18:56:42 <Ballig> will any DMs use it to screw you over in hot places
18:57:17 <Mekkis_znc> maybe
18:57:31 <Ballig> how long does it take to set a bear trap
18:57:31 <Mekkis_znc> seems a good reason to give a -2
18:57:39 <Brunius> That probably depends on whether you get a DM that would have written one of those suicide scenarios
18:58:12 <Avatar> seems an excellent reason to give a -2
18:59:20 <Brunius> ...
18:59:25 <Mekkis_znc> or if Matt Goodall is DMing his scenario
18:59:28 <Mekkis_znc> (s)
18:59:37 <Brunius> For some reason, this DVD of stargate has the default audio as french
18:59:42 <Brunius> the secondary as italian
18:59:45 <Ballig> I should buy a pulley for lifting Billy places
18:59:49 <Brunius> and the tertiary as english
18:59:59 <Avatar> yeah I was trying to think of what to do with a pulley
19:00:06 <Avatar> at first it seems like a fantastic item
19:00:14 <Avatar> but then I can't think of a damn thing to do with it
19:00:14 <Ballig> the only downside is that it weighs 10 pounds
19:00:26 <Brunius> Stick it on Billy
19:00:27 <Ballig> if bear traps didn't weigh 10 pounds I'd buy like 20 of them
19:01:07 <Ballig> Avatar: there's a hot weather outfit
19:01:10 <Ballig> but only gives +2
19:01:28 <Avatar> yeah I saw that
19:01:43 <Avatar> the thing is I already have a cold weather outfit
19:01:56 <Eidren> play play play!
19:02:09 <Mekkis_znc> I just leave my cold weather outfit in the lodge when I'm not using it :)
19:02:48 <Avatar> you can do that ??!
19:03:10 <Avatar> why didn't you tell us about this pathfinders-get-lockers rule
19:04:07 <Avatar> ....they don't, do they
19:04:12 <Eidren> >_< PLAY!
19:04:19 <Ballig> I'm buying like a houseful of things and leaving them all at the lodge
19:04:23 <Ballig> Eidren: we rarely play on a weeknight
19:04:25 <Avatar> Eidren: if you're DMing, I'm playing
19:04:29 <Ballig> most of us work full-time
19:04:32 <Eidren> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
19:04:45 <Eidren> DMing = bad
19:04:46 <Ballig> I'm sure we explained this :p
19:04:53 <Avatar> DMing isn't bad
19:04:56 <Eidren> lol
19:04:57 <Avatar> free exp, no risk of death
19:04:58 <Ballig> DMing is good
19:04:58 <Ballig> you get exp
19:05:01 <Ballig> and gold
19:05:04 <Eidren> wut?
19:05:05 <Avatar> and prestige
19:05:06 <Ballig> and your character can't die
19:05:06 <Avatar> and fame
19:05:12 <Eidren> seriously? lol
19:05:14 <Avatar> yeah
19:05:14 <Ballig> yeah
19:05:15 <Brunius> jaja
19:05:18 <Eidren> LIES!
19:05:21 <Ballig> it's true
19:05:24 <Brunius> No fo srs man
19:05:29 <Brunius> Check the PFS guide
19:05:32 <Ballig> if you DM a pathfinder society scenario, you get the same stuff as the players
19:05:34 <Mekkis_znc> Avatar, it's not a rule... it's a logical argument that has yet to fail on any DMs I've met
19:05:35 <Eidren> lies lies lies! DM's don't get to play
19:05:46 <Avatar> why do you think you'd get lockers
19:05:47 <Brunius> They get the benefits of playing though
19:05:53 <Avatar> it's yet to fail because nobody cares, probably
19:05:53 <Ballig> well, you'd have lodgings
19:05:59 <Ballig> whether it's in the lodge or not
19:06:04 <Avatar> to sleep
19:06:06 <Eidren> fine!
19:06:11 <Eidren> someone teach me how to dm
19:06:13 <Ballig> what stops you from leaving a cold weather outfit on your bed
19:06:17 <Avatar> didn't you say you'd DM'd before
19:06:23 <Eidren> i did but that was irl.
19:06:30 <Avatar> what's the difference
19:06:31 <Eidren> and that was right after second ed
19:06:37 <Avatar> do you need to know how to use CA
19:06:41 <Eidren> yes
19:06:47 <Avatar> type //say $ip
19:06:49 <Avatar> and load it up
19:06:53 <Brunius> I was playing in a 2E game at school
19:06:58 <Brunius> 118.209.178.162
19:06:58 <Eidren> same
19:07:00 <Avatar> click "listen" when it loads up
19:07:03 <Avatar> Brunius: not you
19:07:06 <Brunius> :P
19:07:09 <Ballig> I'm hacking Brunius
19:07:12 <Brunius> Have fun
19:07:13 <Avatar> me 2
19:07:13 <Eidren> 112.202.203.42
19:07:20 <Brunius> This router is set to block remoteanything
19:07:27 <Brunius> As Mekkis knows
19:07:37 <Ballig> I will hack the router
19:07:55 <Brunius> Yeah, have fun with that
19:08:00 <Avatar> Eidren: tell us when you've clicked listen
19:08:11 <Brunius> The only thing I really see working is a buffer overflow attack
19:08:20 <Brunius> Which reminds me
19:08:28 <Brunius> I have to check my ipod
19:08:30 <Eidren> what port?
19:08:34 <Avatar> default is fine
19:08:36 <Avatar> 4000
19:08:43 <Brunius> Except if you're behind my firewall
19:08:46 <Brunius> Which blocks 4000
19:08:59 <Eidren> doesnt work
19:09:00 <Avatar> yeah except if you're behind brunius' firewall
19:09:07 <Avatar> what do you mean it doesn't work
19:09:08 <Brunius> Mavor's did too
19:09:11 <Brunius> Same excuse
19:09:27 <Eidren> cannot listen on port 4000
19:09:33 <Brunius> BALLIG
19:09:34 <Eidren> can't assign requested addr
19:09:36 <Brunius> What does that mean?
19:09:42 <Avatar> try another port
19:09:43 <Brunius> 4000 is already being used?
19:10:03 <Ballig> if he can't listen, it's in use
19:10:15 <Brunius> Fu-
19:10:18 <Eidren> same with 4001
19:10:19 <Eidren> etc
19:10:21 <Brunius> ipod is still screwed
19:10:28 <Ballig> then they're being outright blocked
19:10:28 <Mekkis_znc> Eidren, netstat -a
19:10:32 <Mekkis_znc> in command prompt
19:10:33 <Avatar> try 3333
19:10:36 <Mekkis_znc> see what's using what
19:10:41 <Avatar> or do that
19:10:43 <Mekkis_znc> try 443
19:10:46 <Eidren> im running windows 7
19:10:53 <Ballig> open a command prompt
19:10:59 <Avatar> start > run and type cmd
19:11:02 <Ballig> start -> in the search box type 'cmd'
19:11:31 <Eidren> i ran netstat
19:11:43 <Eidren> there's ip etc crap on my screen
19:11:56 <Brunius> Can you see computer name:4000 being used?
19:12:10 <Eidren> there's a bunch of stuff on screen
19:12:42 <Ballig> yeah look for :4000
19:12:56 <Ballig> it'll probably be 112.202.203.42:4000
19:12:59 <Brunius> heh, looking at mine, apparently facebook is using two ports all on it's own
19:13:08 <Ballig> to spy on you
19:13:35 <Eidren> 4000 is not being used
19:13:49 <Brunius> Whoops, missed one
19:13:54 <Brunius> 3, all on it's own
19:13:57 <Eidren> are all of these things
19:14:02 <Eidren> connected to me?
19:14:13 <Mekkis_znc> Brunius, but that's outgoing ports, not listening
19:15:01 <Eidren> there are 24 things listening on screen.
19:16:18 <Ballig> you use a router, right?
19:16:27 <Eidren> yes
19:16:28 <Mekkis_znc> you *might* need to run it as admin
19:16:37 <Eidren> oh
19:16:39 <Mekkis_znc> a NAT, right
19:16:42 <Brunius> Can you guys connect to me?
19:16:57 <Mekkis_znc> port?
19:17:00 <Brunius> 118.209.178.162
19:17:02 <Brunius> 4000
19:17:20 <Mekkis_znc> no
19:17:22 <Avatar> no Brunius
19:17:32 <Mekkis_znc> grolschmir:/home/dnd # nmap 118.209.178.162 -p 4000 -PN
19:17:32 <Mekkis_znc> Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-10-17 19:17 EST
19:17:32 <Mekkis_znc> Nmap scan report for ppp118-209-178-162.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net (118.209.178.162)
19:17:32 <Mekkis_znc> Host is up.
19:17:32 <Mekkis_znc> PORT STATE SERVICE
19:17:32 <Mekkis_znc> 4000/tcp filtered remoteanything
19:17:32 <Mekkis_znc> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2.10 seconds
19:17:39 <Eidren> nothing happens
19:17:50 <Brunius> 4001?
19:18:22 <Eidren> keeps saying can't listen
19:18:24 <Mekkis_znc> grolschmir:/home/dnd # nmap 118.209.178.162 -p 4001 -PN
19:18:24 <Mekkis_znc> Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2011-10-17 19:18 EST
19:18:24 <Mekkis_znc> Nmap scan report for ppp118-209-178-162.lns20.mel6.internode.on.net (118.209.178.162)
19:18:24 <Mekkis_znc> Host is up.
19:18:24 <Mekkis_znc> PORT STATE SERVICE
19:18:24 <Mekkis_znc> 4001/tcp filtered unknown
19:18:24 <Mekkis_znc> Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 2.08 seconds
19:18:43 <Brunius> That's really wierd Eidren
19:18:48 <Mekkis_znc> (fyi: filtered = inaccessible)
19:18:54 <Brunius> Hmmm
19:19:04 <Brunius> I'll try port forwarding then
19:19:09 <Brunius> Cheers
19:19:24 <Eidren> i didnt put anything on my ip addr
19:19:27 <Ballig> need to forward the port with your router
19:19:28 <Eidren> and clicked listen
19:19:29 <Ballig> what router do you use?
19:19:33 <Eidren> it's listening now
19:19:35 <Ballig> haha
19:19:47 <Ballig> yeah you don't put anything in your IP bit when you listen
19:19:53 <Brunius> Open iconnect 625W
19:19:58 <Brunius> That's what it says on it
19:20:02 <Brunius> No idea what that means
19:20:09 <Eidren> was i supposed to hit connect?
19:20:17 <Brunius> Nope, listen
19:20:19 <Ballig> was supposed to hit listen
19:20:27 <Ballig> still can't connect, you likely need to forward the port with your router
19:20:52 <Eidren> i can't do that
19:21:06 <Eidren> my flatmates won't allow it lol
19:21:18 <Brunius> Trololol
19:21:19 <Avatar> they won't know
19:21:23 <Eidren> i'll syphon the bandwith
19:21:28 <Avatar> why on earth would your flatmates not allow a port forward
19:21:30 <Eidren> they will know
19:21:31 <Brunius> siphon*
19:21:36 <Eidren> siphon
19:21:36 <Eidren> yes
19:21:38 <Brunius> Tell them you need it for some MMO
19:21:46 <Avatar> tell them you need it for pathfinder
19:21:48 <Avatar> and they should play with you
19:21:49 <Eidren> they play mmos
19:21:50 <Eidren> LOL
19:21:56 <Avatar> you think I am joking
19:21:57 <Ballig> what router do you use?
19:21:57 <Brunius> Tell them this one is special
19:21:58 <Eidren> i just quit
19:22:05 <Avatar> tell them they're next
19:22:14 <Avatar> and to join IRC for some sweet pathfinder society
19:22:18 <Ballig> what happens if you go to http://192.168.1.1/ or http://192.168.1.254
19:22:23 <Eidren> i was hoping they'd get banned.
19:22:52 <Eidren> i think my rounter is asking for the username and password
19:22:58 <Ballig> do you know what router it is
19:22:59 <Brunius> Hack it bro!
19:23:22 <Eidren> router
19:23:30 <Eidren> i've seen my flatmate do this
19:23:30 <Ballig> :p
19:23:36 <Eidren> admin i believe
19:23:38 <Ballig> it's a router called router?
19:23:42 <Ballig> probably: admin for both
19:23:44 <Eidren> let me try
19:23:48 <Ballig> username admin, password admin
19:23:50 <Brunius> I believe he was correcting himself
19:23:55 <Brunius> As he said "rounter" before
19:24:31 <Eidren> admin admin doesnt work
19:24:39 <Brunius> admin password?
19:24:40 <Ballig> try admin username and leave the password blank
19:24:48 <Eidren> i remember the password was a combination of 2 common passwords
19:25:06 <Ballig> is there no hint of what kind of router it is?
19:25:11 <Ballig> the manufacturer
19:25:19 <Ballig> like does the admin box say it
19:26:15 <Eidren> the router is called
19:26:18 <Eidren> net gear
19:26:24 <Eidren> is what it says on the box
19:26:42 <Brunius> Heh
19:26:55 <Ballig> default login for netgear is "admin" username and "password" password
19:27:00 <Ballig> or "1234" for older routers
19:27:34 <Eidren> ok
19:27:39 <Eidren> admin 1234 worked
19:27:41 <Ballig> ha
19:27:50 <Ballig> does that page tell you the model number of the router?
19:27:51 <Brunius> lulz
19:27:53 <Eidren> anyone want to skype
19:27:59 <Eidren> and i'll just show my screen
19:28:00 <Eidren> lol
19:28:01 <Brunius> Totally bro
19:28:24 <Ballig> if you use crossloop I can control your computer
19:28:27 <Brunius> We can all be in one huge call like yesterday
19:29:03 <Eidren> my skype is
19:29:12 <Eidren> william.e.te
19:29:15 <Brunius> Fun fact - Ballig sounds a lot like Avatar on skype
19:29:17 <Ballig> penisbuttmuncher1?
19:29:20 <Ballig> what, I do not
19:29:22 <Avatar> you reckon
19:29:32 <Eidren> it's the only skype i have and i use it for work too
19:29:37 <Eidren> >_<
19:30:01 <Eidren> added ballig
19:30:18 <Ballig> are you naked
19:30:26 <Avatar> or topless
19:30:30 <Ballig> he's definitely topless
19:30:39 <Eidren> it's hot here...
19:30:44 <Avatar> haha
19:30:44 <Eidren> im in a tropical country
19:30:45 <Brunius> Why is everyone topless on skype?
19:30:54 <Eidren> i will put on a shirt just for you.
19:30:55 <Eidren> brb
19:31:05 <Ballig> I actually can't see you anymore
19:31:12 <Avatar> maybe it's a foreign thing
19:32:00 <Avatar> hmm just realised now that I have a rapier I can get a shield
19:32:01 <Ballig> you will need to re-share your screen
19:32:04 <Avatar> if my weight allows it
19:32:24 <Avatar> 5lb for a buckler
19:32:25 <Avatar> I don't think so
19:32:35 Eidren has quit (Quit: )
19:32:49 <Brunius> What a quitter
19:32:59 <Avatar> that quitter
19:33:42 <Brunius> Eidren!
19:33:48 <Brunius> Undo what you did to your router!
19:33:59 <Brunius> Yeah
19:34:14 <Avatar> oh that's what I had to ask
19:34:15 <Avatar> mekkis are you there
19:34:35 <Brunius> Avatar
19:34:38 <Brunius> Join this call
19:34:43 <Avatar> must I
19:35:14 <Brunius> No
19:35:19 <Avatar> this better be good
19:35:21 <Avatar> what
19:35:24 <Brunius> Don't bother
19:35:30 <Avatar> skype is starting now
19:35:42 <Brunius> Ballig was talking about how giant your dick is
19:35:48 <Avatar> good grif
19:35:48 <Avatar> ef
19:36:53 <Ballig> I said penis
19:38:41 Eidren ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
19:38:43 <Avatar> man
19:38:49 <Avatar> it's only a matter of time before I figure out how to throw bombs
19:38:59 <Avatar> not that alchemist garbage
19:38:59 <Avatar> REAL bombs
19:39:46 <Brunius> 2 hours remaining on 1 encode, 4 pending
19:39:49 <Avatar> I'll give Buck ranks in craft (alchemy) so that he can have a life goal of creating a nuclear bomb
19:39:54 <Brunius> Will this be done by 7am tomorrow?
19:40:04 <Brunius> Can you take craft skills in PFS?
19:41:13 <Avatar> yeah, that's how you get day job rolls
19:42:02 <Brunius> Profession
19:42:06 <Brunius> Perform
19:42:30 <Avatar> I think craft performs normally otherwise
19:42:34 <Avatar> it's just the item creation feats that dont' work
19:43:56 <Avatar> I can get bullets that effectively do damage and shoot poison
19:44:12 <Avatar> poisons are too damn expensive though
19:51:37 <Brunius> You can get groaning bullets
19:51:45 <Brunius> Might be good for psyching people out
19:52:20 <Avatar> that's for slings
19:52:25 <Brunius> Oh
19:52:28 <Brunius> That sucks
19:52:29 <Avatar> I would rather just poison them
19:52:41 <Avatar> you can get flash and itching powder
19:52:46 <Avatar> I'm wondering if you can put that stuff into a pitted bullet
19:52:51 <Brunius> Ok, buy list - RANGED WEAPONNNNN
19:52:57 <Brunius> Anything else?
19:53:06 <Avatar> maybe I should have sold you my crossbow for 2gp
19:53:10 <Avatar> er
19:53:11 <Avatar> for cost price
19:53:19 <Brunius> Inter-player trading isn't allowed in PFS
19:53:22 <Avatar> oh isn't it
19:53:27 <Brunius> Nope
19:54:10 <Brunius> Defs getting the potion of invisibubbleness
19:58:20 <Eidren> 112.202.203.42
19:58:27 <Avatar> there's a gel which gives you +2 to perception and knowledge checks but -2 to all charisma based checks for 6 hours
19:58:39 <Eidren> lol gel
19:58:47 <Eidren> seriously gel..
19:59:33 <Avatar> you pour it in your ear
19:59:47 <Ballig> you don't pour gel
20:00:05 <Avatar> according to this you do
20:00:27 <Ballig> gel is a semi-solid liquid
20:00:41 <Avatar> 15gp
20:00:42 <Ballig> that's like saying "hey, here's some jelly, pour it in your ear"
20:00:43 <Avatar> I know what gel is
20:00:49 <Avatar> maybe it's a non-viscous gel
20:00:55 <Ballig> that makes it a liquid
20:00:56 <Ballig> not a gel
20:01:03 <Avatar> well maybe a low-viscous gel
20:01:05 <Avatar> I don't know
20:01:06 <Ballig> that's like telling me you have some unfrozen ice cubes for me
20:01:22 <Avatar> you can get liquid ice
20:01:36 <Ballig> Eidren: put 121.45.217.30 in to the box and hit connect
20:01:44 <Eidren> ok
20:01:58 <Eidren> done
20:02:09 <Eidren> you can still talk
20:02:12 <Eidren> i can hear you lol
20:02:26 <Eidren> yeah
20:02:37 <Eidren> it's a map!
20:02:40 <Eidren> wow
20:02:53 <Eidren> omg goblins run away?
20:03:09 <Avatar> you can buy a slave
20:03:13 <Avatar> 75gp
20:03:17 <Eidren> LOL
20:03:34 <Eidren> can i buy a gnome slave?
20:04:21 <Eidren> i'll cast magic missile on the shaman
20:04:24 <Eidren> lol
20:04:36 <Eidren> pew pew pew
20:05:15 <Avatar> some of this black market stuff is nasty
20:05:25 <Avatar> you can make a female sterile while she's pregnant
20:05:28 <Eidren> is he what?
20:05:34 <Eidren> a friend of mine from the uk
20:05:43 <Eidren> how would i know?
20:05:44 <Eidren> lol
20:05:55 <Eidren> >.>
20:05:59 <Eidren> why would you even ask that?
20:06:02 <Eidren> LOL
20:08:14 <Ballig> why wouldn't I ask that
20:08:16 <Ballig> that's the real question
20:08:28 <Eidren> huh?
20:08:34 <Eidren> but you're a guy
20:08:36 <Ballig> so
20:08:43 <Eidren> what was the question again?
20:08:57 <Eidren> im confused.
20:09:02 <Ballig> is he hot
20:09:18 <Eidren> lol
20:09:48 <Eidren> ok it's a yes or no question so i'll say no
20:10:18 <Eidren> aren't you supposed to be watching boston legal...
20:11:17 <Ballig> I am
20:11:31 <Avatar> I wonder if a kind DM would allow animals to be attracted over to you if you somehow landed yourself in a jail cell
20:11:41 <Avatar> with a silent whistle
20:12:06 <Ballig> I think they'd need to be trained by you to respond
20:12:20 <Avatar> mmm
20:12:30 <Avatar> but what if you just kept blowing it
20:12:43 <Ballig> I imagine if I get an "animal harness" and "pulley" I can avoid the issue I had that one game where I couldn't take billy into the sewers
20:13:12 <Avatar> how much more weight can you carry
20:13:20 <Ballig> I've got a light load
20:13:24 <Avatar> I am looking over every single equipment piece I can find knowing I probably can't buy anything else anyway
20:13:30 <Ballig> I /just/ make a medium load for my pony
20:13:42 <Avatar> Dobs can actually carry a fair bit more
20:14:03 <Ballig> Mekkis_znc: how does someone get a pony with the advanced simple template
20:16:02 <Avatar> skeleton key is 85gp and lets you open some locks
20:16:20 <Avatar> seems a bit redundant when you have gunpowder and fire
20:16:27 <Ballig> ha
20:16:33 <Ballig> it lets you open some locks... silently
20:18:05 <Avatar> maybe I should lose the belt pouch, that's weighing me down and it's largely ignored
20:18:40 <Ballig> ha
20:18:44 <Eidren> do we carry our money all the time?
20:18:55 <Eidren> lol
20:18:57 <Eidren> nvm
20:19:09 <Avatar> yeah pretty much
20:19:21 <Eidren> wut
20:19:28 <Ballig> if you get enough money you should find a bank to put it in
20:19:29 <Eidren> so 1000g isnt that really really heavy
20:19:34 <Ballig> and give your party members access in the case of your death
20:19:53 <Eidren> LOL
20:20:08 <Eidren> if i die my money goes to charity
20:20:16 <Eidren> i will sponsor and orphan
20:20:22 <Eidren> which will be my next character...
20:20:34 <Eidren> an*
20:20:46 <Ballig> the idea is that if you have enough gold you can buy a resurrection :p
20:20:53 <Avatar> how far do you think a magnifying glass has to be to produce fire from sunlight
20:21:06 <Ballig> within a foot I'd say
20:21:09 <Ballig> even then, it's not easy to do
20:21:11 <Avatar> fuck that wouldn't work
20:21:12 <Ballig> why not use flint and steel
20:21:27 <Avatar> I want to be able to set up bombs from across a marketplace
20:21:42 <Ballig> or do you want to glue six magnifying glasses to your helm and try and burn people to death in combat
20:21:51 <Avatar> hahahahaha
20:21:59 <Eidren> hahahaha
20:22:00 <Eidren> omg
20:22:12 <Avatar> instead of looking at how much stuff costs
20:22:15 <Avatar> I'm looking at the weight column
20:22:20 <Avatar> anything that is weightless is fair game
20:22:35 <Ballig> haha
20:22:42 <Ballig> you'll have six dozen 'weightless' items
20:22:50 <Avatar> a whistle is 5cp and weightless
20:22:54 <Eidren> that's crazy
20:22:56 <Avatar> I don't know what I'd use it for
20:22:59 <Ballig> you realise that backpacks technically have an amount of cubic space in it
20:23:04 <Avatar> do they
20:23:07 <Ballig> yeah
20:23:12 <Avatar> is that mentioned anywhere
20:23:16 <Ballig> 2 cubic feet
20:23:23 <Avatar> did you make that up
20:23:29 <Ballig> Like a common
20:23:30 <Ballig> backpack, it can hold about 2 cubic feet of material in its
20:23:30 <Ballig> main container.
20:23:33 <Ballig> that's in masterwork backpack
20:23:47 <Ballig> get a bag of holding
20:23:53 <Avatar> I'm guessing by working out how big stuff is, you're using best judgement
20:24:00 <Avatar> like obviously a ladder wont' fit
20:24:12 <Avatar> a bag of holding is expensive
20:24:14 <Avatar> I want a +1 musket
20:24:28 <Avatar> but before I do that I want to know if a cure wand should be bought with gp or prestige
20:24:35 <Eidren> there are rope ladders
20:24:43 <Ballig> 2500gp for a bag of holding
20:24:45 <Eidren> or aluminum folding ladders...
20:24:49 <Ballig> can hold up to 250lbs
20:24:52 <Ballig> and 30 cubic feet
20:25:00 <Avatar> I have about 1300gp
20:25:05 <Ballig> can you imagine that
20:25:11 <Ballig> 250 free pounds of equipment
20:25:17 <Avatar> yeah I'm not there yet
20:25:27 <Ballig> have to find it on a chronicle sheet
20:25:36 <Avatar> ah yeah good point
20:25:38 <Ballig> that reminds me, I need to work on my chronicle sheet maker
20:26:01 <Avatar> what's that
20:26:03 <Eidren> my imessage is not working >_<
20:26:06 <Eidren> gah
20:27:19 <Ballig> apparnetly back in 2008 you could use prestige to buy magic items
20:27:26 <Ballig> 30 prestige would get you a bag of holding
20:27:49 <Avatar> I really want 16 prestige before I use it for anything
20:27:52 <Avatar> so I can die safely
20:27:57 <Eidren> how much prestige do you get
20:28:01 <Eidren> per run
20:28:21 <Ballig> yeah
20:28:23 <Ballig> you get 0-2
20:28:30 <Eidren> ew
20:28:31 <Ballig> depends on whether you complete your faction missions
20:28:47 <Eidren> ok what campaigns can i run
20:28:50 <Eidren> if i am DMing
20:29:09 <Eidren> like which scenarios etc w/e you guys are using.
20:29:50 <Ballig> pathfinder society
20:30:02 <Eidren> do i have to buy em?
20:30:14 <Ballig> ethically
20:30:20 <Eidren> lol
20:30:25 <Avatar> you have to buy them before anyone can take credit
20:30:28 <Avatar> or you can't even report it
20:30:38 <Ballig> I wasn't aware of that
20:30:39 <Ballig> that's pretty good
20:31:01 <Eidren> i was thinking of something really evil
20:31:07 <Eidren> but it may get everyone banned etc
20:31:09 <Eidren> so nvm
20:31:25 <Avatar> if you're giong to be a bastard DM nobody will play
20:31:39 <Eidren> no not that
20:32:01 <Ballig> he's going to cheat
20:32:07 <Eidren> nope worse
20:32:15 <Avatar> what then
20:32:29 <Eidren> i won't even say it anymore.
20:32:29 <Ballig> take paizo employees hostage and insist on full xp
20:32:31 <Ballig> or else they all die
20:32:38 <Avatar> eidren you monster
20:32:48 <Ballig> you monster.
20:32:57 <Eidren> yes
20:32:59 <Eidren> i am.
20:33:34 <Eidren> is everyone here goodly aligned irl...
20:33:35 <Avatar> oh shit, bullets actually weigh something once you get 30
20:33:39 <Eidren> lol
20:33:42 <Avatar> good grief
20:33:44 <Ballig> I'm lawful neutral
20:33:56 <Avatar> if I get 30 bullets, it weighs 0.5lb, but anything less is weightless
20:34:00 <Avatar> maybe I should get 29
20:34:05 <Eidren> LOL
20:34:05 <Avatar> just carry 29 at a time
20:34:06 <Ballig> get 10 lots of 29
20:34:11 <Avatar> yeah I can do that
20:34:17 <Avatar> I have a few spare powder horns to carry them in
20:34:27 <Eidren> that's unreal...
20:34:27 <Avatar> sorry that's for black powder
20:34:32 <Eidren> 10 lots of 29 pcs of bullets..
20:34:53 <Avatar> I can just keep the remainder on Dobs
20:35:03 <Eidren> who's dobs?
20:35:04 <Avatar> and it's totally legit
20:35:07 <Avatar> Buck's horse
20:35:17 <Avatar> good name hey
20:35:25 <Eidren> cool you named your horse dobs lol
20:35:49 <Eidren> if i buy something from paizo
20:35:52 <Eidren> and say
20:35:59 <Eidren> i claimed fraud
20:36:05 <Eidren> but we already played all of those
20:36:13 <Eidren> and they all get refunded etc
20:36:17 <Eidren> do we retain credit?
20:36:25 <Avatar> nobody would believe you man
20:36:28 <Avatar> to begin with
20:36:45 <Avatar> as if that isn't the most obvious play just to get free exp
20:36:47 <Avatar> in organised play
20:37:03 <Eidren> i didn't say i'd be using my credit card.
20:37:17 <Avatar> it wouldn't work man
20:37:33 <Eidren> why not?
20:37:35 <Avatar> if you cheat in PFS you are banned forever
20:37:42 <Eidren> AH
20:37:46 <Eidren> that i know
20:37:49 <Avatar> yeah you wouldn't even want to attempt
20:37:55 <Ballig> Avatar: I see people on the PFS boards suggesting others buy muleback cords
20:37:55 <Eidren> i won't
20:38:03 <Avatar> link
20:38:16 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/general/pathfinderSocietyPlayQuestionEquipment
20:38:18 <Brunius> Yeah, claiming fraud gets paizo pissed at you
20:38:19 <Ballig> ctrl+f and search muleback
20:38:29 <Brunius> Pissed as in remove shit from your account
20:38:36 <Brunius> Possibly delete your account
20:38:41 <Brunius> (From what I've read)
20:38:53 <Brunius> What did I log on to the computer for again...
20:38:56 <Eidren> yes
20:38:59 <Eidren> LOL
20:39:08 <Eidren> it was just a thought
20:39:12 <Avatar> surely that's from a chronicle sheet
20:39:57 <Ballig> they aren't mentioning that at all
20:40:08 <Ballig> I would have thought it'd be like "Once you can buy over 1000gp, play XXX scenario and buy the muleback cords"
20:40:30 <Eidren> i can never be a dm then...
20:40:45 <Eidren> i don't want to pay those..
20:40:50 <Eidren> T_T
20:40:53 <Eidren> i r poor
20:41:15 <Avatar> they're cheap as chips man
20:41:25 <Eidren> you can eat chips.
20:41:26 <Avatar> $4 AUD
20:41:30 <Eidren> you can't eat these...
20:41:31 <Avatar> you can play scenarios
20:41:37 <Ballig> do you drink beer
20:42:00 <Eidren> i don't drink or smoke.
20:42:07 <Eidren> i whore though.
20:42:08 <Ballig> do you drink coke
20:42:15 <Eidren> lol joke
20:42:18 <Ballig> wait, you played WoW
20:42:21 <Eidren> no i don't drink soda.
20:42:27 <Ballig> that's 3-4 scenarios a month
20:42:29 <Eidren> my guild paid for my sub.
20:42:37 <Avatar> how old are you again
20:42:42 <Eidren> 27 LOL
20:42:47 <Avatar> cmon Eidren
20:42:48 <Ballig> get them to keep paying for it
20:42:49 <Avatar> no sympathy
20:42:49 <Eidren> sorry im just making excuses
20:42:52 <Ballig> but instead get them to send you the money directly
20:43:00 <Avatar> you want your no-risk exp point
20:43:00 <Ballig> and use it to buy 3-4 scenarios a month
20:43:08 <Avatar> and prestige and gp
20:43:13 <Avatar> $4 is not much to ask for
20:43:15 <Eidren> BUT
20:43:18 <Avatar> no buts !
20:43:21 <Eidren> i can't go over level 12
20:43:24 <Eidren> WHY ???
20:43:30 <Avatar> nobody else gets to either
20:43:32 <Avatar> why should you
20:43:40 <Avatar> you just want the world don't you
20:43:41 <Eidren> why not?
20:43:48 <Ballig> that's just the limitation
20:43:49 <Avatar> because you have to share it with everyone else
20:43:56 <Eidren> no i just want to grow.
20:44:02 <Ballig> do you say "I can't go past level 20. Why??"
20:44:03 <Ballig> :p
20:44:04 <Avatar> I'm just going to take a stab in the dark here
20:44:05 <Brunius> Once they get enough over level 12, they'll open it to people
20:44:09 <Avatar> but I think you like to play evil characters
20:44:31 <Eidren> no i've never played evil.
20:44:47 <Eidren> though i have this tendency to let annoying players die.
20:44:59 <Avatar> what classifies as annoying
20:45:07 <Avatar> because I have to say, I have a gun and I'm not afraid to use it
20:45:09 <Eidren> i don't hold back when a player goes meta
20:45:20 <Avatar> what does that mean
20:45:47 <Brunius> It means Mekkis will die if he plays in a game where Eidren DMS
20:45:54 <Eidren> meta was a term we used before for players who play too efficiently and take full advantage of loopholes and whatnot in the game.
20:46:13 <Brunius> Man
20:46:20 <Brunius> Remind me to fill out my chronicle sheet tomorrow
20:46:22 <Eidren> abusive players in short.
20:47:09 <Eidren> i love clever players, can't have enough of em
20:47:48 <Eidren> i have to study how to dm all over again.
20:47:48 <Avatar> you mean like, say if we had a +21 to diplomacy
20:47:57 <Avatar> and you could use diplomacy to make day job rolls instead of craft/profession
20:48:03 <Brunius> Ha
20:48:19 <Avatar> just a hypothetical
20:49:02 <Eidren> ?
20:49:14 <Avatar> (you normally roll craft or profession to do a day job roll at the end of every scenario to make some gold)
20:49:25 <Brunius> Perform
20:49:26 <Eidren> you'd get others to do your job ?
20:49:38 <Eidren> how can you justify using diplomacy for it?
20:49:39 <Avatar> no, you roll diplomacy instead of craft/profession, and you have a +21 to diplomacy at 1st level
20:49:46 <Avatar> there is a rule that allows for it
20:49:59 <Avatar> under the most specific circumstances
20:50:00 <Eidren> how on earth would you get +21 diplomacy at level 1?
20:50:07 <Avatar> that's irrelevant
20:50:12 <Avatar> the player has +21 and it is legit
20:50:29 <Avatar> is the player annoying enough to let die ?
20:50:34 <Eidren> then you'd probably get kidnapped and used because of that.
20:50:36 <Eidren> no
20:50:47 <Avatar> enough to get kidnapped but not killed
20:50:55 <Eidren> lol i mean seriously
20:51:05 <Avatar> mekkis has a character that has that
20:51:10 <Eidren> what is annoying is when people who act our of character
20:51:21 <Eidren> say he's supposed to be CG
20:51:28 <Avatar> synthesist summoner
20:51:32 <Eidren> but then acts all greedy etc
20:51:36 <Avatar> being fused with his eidolon gives him +8 diplomacy
20:51:40 <Eidren> that's annoying.
20:51:44 <Avatar> he has 20 charisma, so +5
20:51:50 <Eidren> 13 so far
20:51:50 <Avatar> +2 ranks
20:51:54 <Avatar> +3 class bonus
20:52:02 <Eidren> you can only have 1 rank
20:52:04 <Eidren> per hd
20:52:07 <Eidren> right?
20:52:07 <Avatar> maybe it's 1 rank
20:52:10 <Avatar> yeah
20:52:20 <Avatar> oh and a trait
20:52:24 <Eidren> 1 rank = 3 +3 class +8 eid + 5 char
20:52:34 <Eidren> 19 so far
20:52:38 <Brunius> Feat?
20:52:44 <Brunius> Racial bonus?
20:52:46 <Eidren> trait or feat would do it.
20:52:59 <Eidren> there isn't a race that gives + diplomacy
20:53:02 <Brunius> Spells :D
20:53:11 <Brunius> Anyway, night guys
20:53:12 <Avatar> the trait gives +2
20:53:14 <Eidren> spell that gives +4 cha would do it
20:53:17 <Eidren> gnite brunius
20:53:18 <Avatar> not a spell
20:53:25 <Avatar> the spell would make it higher
20:53:27 <Eidren> or a spell that boosts diplomacy
20:53:49 <Avatar> oh sorry it's a level 2 summoner
20:53:52 <Avatar> that's why he has +2
20:53:57 <Eidren> so if the guy had 21 diplomacy then it's all good
20:53:59 <Eidren> all legal
20:54:04 <Avatar> oh yeah it's legal
20:54:08 <Eidren> but what kind of job pays diplomacy?
20:54:12 <Avatar> but he's rolling +21 diplomacy all over the place
20:54:21 <Eidren> how so?
20:54:51 <Brunius> I don't think any job does diplomacy
20:54:52 <Avatar> because he interacts with people
20:54:54 <Brunius> At least for PFS
20:55:06 <Avatar> no he somehow rolls diplomacy for the day job roll
20:55:09 <Avatar> at the end of the scenario
20:55:12 <Brunius> I've got like +15 to Stealth at level 3 for Kaleb
20:55:15 <Avatar> you can't normally do it
20:55:16 <Brunius> That's pretty cool
20:55:26 <Avatar> how did you get +15
20:55:32 <Brunius> It's crazy shit man
20:55:37 <Eidren> so he gets wealthy
20:55:42 <Brunius> It's on my char sheet, I think
20:55:58 <Avatar> apparently nobody ever makes more than 25gp on a day job roll
20:56:05 <Avatar> but mekkis was making like 100-150gp
20:56:23 <Brunius> Woah
20:56:26 <Eidren> how can you explain that?
20:56:28 <Brunius> So many chars for PFS
20:56:34 <Sachiru> And they call me a minmaxer.
20:56:36 <Eidren> piddly sum 100-150g
20:56:41 <Avatar> nobody ever rolls diplomacy on a day job roll
20:56:48 <Avatar> they roll craft/profession
20:56:49 <Sachiru> Oops, wrong channel, sorry.
20:57:12 <Brunius> You chatting behind our backs, Sachiru?
20:57:13 <Brunius> :P
20:57:26 <Sachiru> No, it's on an unrelated topic.
20:57:34 <Brunius> Stealth DEX 14= +4 2 +4 [small] +2 [stealthy] -1 [Armour] +3 [class skill]
20:57:45 <Avatar> I don't see anything on his sheet about it
20:58:01 <Avatar> man
20:58:05 <Avatar> take the armour trait I did
20:58:08 <Brunius> 14 at level 2
20:58:09 <Avatar> armour expert or whatever it is
20:58:13 <Avatar> -1 AC check penalty
20:58:17 <Brunius> Anyway, night guys
20:58:20 <Avatar> gg
20:58:21 <Brunius> forrealz this time
20:58:30 <Eidren> bye brun
20:58:41 <Eidren> avatar
20:58:51 <Eidren> what's with your question
20:58:57 <Eidren> ok so he earns that much
20:59:04 <Eidren> with w/e
20:59:12 <Avatar> he doesn't just earn that much
20:59:21 <Avatar> he constantly turns hostile/unfriendly to friendly/helpful
20:59:38 <Avatar> in PFS it's a very useful skill
20:59:41 <Eidren> hostile providing it's willing to listen
20:59:53 <Avatar> second only to perception
20:59:57 <Eidren> there are limitations
21:00:17 <Eidren> each scenario is linear in a way
21:00:18 <Avatar> yeah obviously
21:00:20 <Avatar> but +21
21:00:36 <Avatar> if you want someone to do something, chances are they're doing it
21:00:53 <Eidren> within good reason yes.
21:00:59 <Eidren> he's very persuasive
21:01:03 <Eidren> BUT
21:01:06 <Eidren> as a dm
21:01:16 <Avatar> as a DM you are a victim of the dice !
21:01:19 <Eidren> he needs to justify his request
21:01:26 <Eidren> ah no
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21:01:34 <Eidren> as the dm you are the puppet master.
21:01:47 <Avatar> DMs ignoring dice are frowned upon
21:01:54 <Avatar> you can potentially have the whole thing appealed against you
21:02:02 <Eidren> you are not ignoring the dice
21:02:07 <Eidren> you control the npc's reaction.
21:02:13 <Eidren> so yes
21:02:21 <Eidren> you rolled an epic 20 on a d20 +21
21:02:22 <Eidren> 41
21:02:31 <Eidren> ah alas this is the only thing i can do to help you..
21:02:45 <Avatar> you don't understand
21:02:48 <Ballig> all diplomacy does is increase their friendliness toward you
21:02:49 <Avatar> he's only going to use it on relevant people
21:02:52 <Ballig> it's not skill-based charm
21:02:53 <Eidren> even at a 41 an npc would never risk life and limb for you lol
21:03:06 <Avatar> doesn't have to
21:03:17 <Eidren> ok let's say.
21:03:19 <Avatar> he'll likely tell you what you want to know
21:03:20 <Eidren> he wanted to get info
21:03:23 <Ballig> the DM still decides what a character who is friendly to you does as opposed to unfriendly to you
21:03:23 <Avatar> give you what you want
21:03:37 <Eidren> exactly
21:03:54 <Avatar> he actually has something whicih lets him reroll diplomacy if he fails miserably on the roll
21:03:54 <Ballig> like you could have diplomacized the shit out of Sussworth
21:03:56 <Eidren> even with a diplomacy of 1000 you can only achieve so much.
21:04:03 <Ballig> he still wouldnt' have given you the cipher to break his coded messages
21:04:15 <Avatar> he wouldn't diplomacise the bad guys in an encounter
21:04:20 <Avatar> I don't think the rules even allow that
21:04:34 <Avatar> he diplomacises the neutral or unfriendly guys to do what he wants
21:04:37 <Ballig> my point is: diplomacy isn't charm
21:04:40 <Eidren> there's always the charm person spell..
21:04:40 <Eidren> lol
21:04:41 <Ballig> it just raises their attitude toward you
21:04:46 <Ballig> the DM still decides what the NPC does with the new attitude
21:04:53 <Avatar> what do you think that means though
21:05:08 <Ballig> it means what the DM t hinks it means
21:05:08 <Avatar> the things he asks aren't unreasonable to a friendly/helpful attituded person
21:05:16 <Eidren> the dm has full control of the flow of things
21:05:18 <Ballig> then that's fine, he's using it properly
21:05:26 <Ballig> someone with a +6 diplomacy (e.g. Bobbob) can get the same result
21:05:30 <Avatar> exactly
21:05:32 <Ballig> just not every time
21:05:40 <Avatar> but with a +21 on the skill, using it all the time
21:05:41 <Avatar> correctly
21:05:44 <Avatar> that will become annoying
21:05:54 <Eidren> not to me
21:05:54 <Avatar> at level 2
21:06:02 <Eidren> he has it, he earned it
21:06:07 <Avatar> well you run the scenario
21:06:08 <Ballig> well, to me, the fact that someone has +21 in anything at level 1, or can get +21 in anything, would annoy me
21:06:08 <Avatar> then we'll talk
21:06:24 <Eidren> what's annoying is you are a cleric and your team mate is in trouble and is dying
21:06:34 <Eidren> and you prioritize loot.
21:06:36 <Ballig> if it was a reasonable amount, like +6 or even +10 for someone who put a lot into charisma
21:06:38 <Eidren> that's annoying.
21:06:38 <Ballig> Id' be okay with it
21:06:39 <Avatar> haha
21:06:53 <Eidren> i've died so many times because the rogue was trying to stabalize me
21:06:58 <Eidren> and the cleric was busy looting corpses.
21:07:06 <Eidren> stabilize
21:07:16 <Avatar> I only saw one DM at unicon have to deal with mekkis' character
21:07:28 <Avatar> she was sort of nervous/exasperated trying not to get us killed
21:07:38 <Avatar> and then she was trying to figure out mekkis' summoner on top of that
21:07:50 <Avatar> every 15 minutes he'd do something and she'd just be speechless
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21:08:28 <Eidren> the ground shakes and a rift opens beneath you...
21:08:29 <Avatar> canine
21:08:46 <canine> hey
21:08:48 <Eidren> you fall... and the rift closes as if nothing happened.
21:08:50 <Avatar> Eidren: you sort of have to stick to the scenario unless the players go wildly off course
21:08:54 <Avatar> which generally never happens
21:08:55 <Eidren> no one notices that you are gone. nobody remembers you.
21:09:03 <Eidren> yes i know.
21:09:31 <Eidren> as DM
21:09:43 <Eidren> have you ever tried having an avatar in game to help the characters
21:09:50 <Eidren> out of a very difficult situation
21:10:24 <Eidren> like say they killed a key npc.
21:13:38 <Avatar> nope
21:13:42 <Avatar> we summoned an angel once
21:13:46 <Avatar> to get some help
21:13:59 <Avatar> caused a situation which had the 4 other players in my party turn on me
21:14:04 <Avatar> by their own voilition
21:15:37 <Eidren> lol
21:15:57 <Eidren> avatar id like to try dming
21:16:03 <Eidren> if i have to buy scenarios
21:16:11 <Eidren> might aswell actually know how to DM
21:16:31 <Eidren> let me check youtube if there are any instructional videos lol
21:17:49 <Avatar> I don't understand what you want to know
21:17:58 <Mekkis_znc> Avatar, to be fair, myra is a rather inexperienced DM
21:18:06 <Eidren> yes that was a big vague huh
21:18:12 <Eidren> i want a trial combat
21:18:13 <Avatar> Mekkis_znc: I'm not putting her at fault :P
21:18:18 <Eidren> trial scenario
21:18:21 <Eidren> trial npc interaction
21:18:28 <Avatar> btw
21:18:36 <Avatar> better to buy a wand of CLW via prestige or gold ?
21:18:56 <Avatar> eidren: npc interaction wouldn't have changed since 2e
21:19:16 <Avatar> combat is a bit tougher with CA
21:19:17 <Eidren> ok let me rephrase that
21:19:28 <Avatar> did you get it working
21:19:33 <Eidren> npc interaction, how you guys do it.
21:19:38 <Eidren> yes ballig showed me.
21:19:44 <Avatar> talk in-character with quotes
21:19:48 <Eidren> but not use it as dm
21:19:50 <Avatar> "Hello. Who are you"
21:20:01 <Avatar> "I'm your new best friend"
21:20:04 <Avatar> roll bluff
21:20:08 <Avatar> !throw 1d20
21:20:08 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20: [1d20=11] 11
21:20:10 <Mekkis_znc> "I am Venture Captain Ambrus Valsin. You've seen me before, right"
21:20:12 <Avatar> "No you're not"
21:20:24 <Avatar> that's pretty much it
21:20:36 <Mekkis_znc> "I mean, you keep wasting my time asking me stupid questions. The Society needs _competent_ agents..."
21:20:38 * Avatar slaps Avatar
21:21:18 <snypt> every time i flick over to this window you look more crazy than the last time Avatar
21:21:19 <Eidren> practice combat them
21:21:21 <Eidren> then*
21:21:41 <Avatar> snypt: stop flicking away
21:21:47 <Avatar> before long I'll have lost it completely
21:21:52 <snypt> lol
21:21:58 <snypt> but i need to play my games
21:22:05 <Avatar> pathfinder is the only game you need
21:22:10 <snypt> i have so many games and so little time
21:22:13 <Eidren> im watching a PFS game on youtube...
21:22:30 <Eidren> snypt!
21:22:30 <Mekkis_znc> so you're watching spoilers?
21:22:32 <snypt> im thinking about ordering one of the pfs t-shirts
21:22:33 <Avatar> does it look like d&d 2e
21:22:34 <Eidren> what other games?
21:22:50 <Avatar> I would never get a PFS t-shirt unless it didn't have a faction on it
21:22:54 <snypt> hon, cod, eve, deicide, CS:s
21:22:55 <snypt> tons
21:23:02 <canine> <3 EVE
21:23:06 <Avatar> forget eve
21:23:09 <Eidren> yes very 2nd ish but not how'd i would have done it.
21:23:10 <snypt> why not a faction shirt?
21:23:19 <Avatar> I don't like the factions that much at all
21:23:21 <canine> I quit playing because I went like 8 months without starting a skill and I don't want to look at what my character could have been
21:23:26 <snypt> i reckon they are awesome
21:23:33 <Avatar> I think they are good in the game
21:23:44 <Avatar> but i don't like them in game terms to want to roleplay walking around advertising it
21:23:54 <Mekkis_znc> oh, I won another copy of Ultimate Magic :)
21:23:56 <Avatar> not even at a con
21:23:58 <Eidren> love hon
21:24:03 <Avatar> Mekkis: how
21:24:08 <snypt> have you seen the new goblin one
21:24:09 NickOP sets mode +r Mekkis
21:24:14 <Avatar> no
21:24:25 <Avatar> does that count as a PFS shirt where you can use a reroll
21:24:26 <Mekkis> Paizoconoz had a raffle ticket: one ticket per session
21:24:37 <snypt> i dont know but it is awesome
21:25:15 <snypt> i dont think so because it is a FACTION reroll
21:25:37 <snypt> i dont know which one to get tho
21:25:43 <Mekkis> year of the ruby phoenix gives you a free reroll
21:25:51 <snypt> true
21:25:56 <Avatar> yeah that goblin shirt is pretty cool
21:26:05 <Avatar> which is saying something since I don't paritcularly like goblins
21:26:24 <Eidren> if i played a scenario with a different pfs group
21:26:36 <Eidren> i could still use that character
21:26:37 <Mekkis> yes
21:26:40 <Eidren> with this group yes?
21:26:42 <Avatar> yeah
21:26:46 <Avatar> you can use it anywhere
21:26:50 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you need me to report Citadel of Flame for you?
21:26:58 <Avatar> no I think I reported it
21:27:07 <Avatar> is it even possible for you to do it for me
21:27:10 <Mekkis> in what event?
21:27:22 <Avatar> PFS for IRC (UTC+11:00)
21:27:26 <Mekkis> generally the "event coordinator" reports all the events
21:27:31 <Mekkis> you created a new event?
21:27:38 <Avatar> I don't know
21:27:53 <Avatar> I guess that's a new one with the daylight savings time
21:28:06 <Avatar> is that bad
21:28:34 <Mekkis> it's better for them to all be in one place
21:28:40 <Mekkis> but it's done now, so w/e
21:28:52 <Avatar> well I hated reporting it, so next time you can do it
21:29:02 <Mekkis> no problem
21:29:12 <Avatar> should I buy a wand of CLW with prestige or gp?
21:29:22 <Mekkis> I prefer using prestige
21:29:30 <Avatar> is that what people normally do
21:29:42 <Mekkis> I don't normally ask
21:30:00 <Avatar> it's normally the first thing you buy yeah
21:30:07 <Avatar> with your prestige
21:30:28 <Mekkis> yeah
21:31:49 <Mekkis> time to spend another 100 dollars or so from Paizo
21:31:49 <Mekkis> :S
21:32:03 <Mekkis> :S
21:32:04 <Avatar> on wht
21:32:06 <Avatar> what
21:32:10 <Mekkis> Add $5.05 to your cart and we'll pay $10.00 towards shipping!*
21:32:14 <Mekkis> :(
21:32:19 <Eidren> paizo..
21:32:26 <Mekkis> flip mats, books and a shirt
21:33:20 <Mekkis> oh well
21:33:26 <Mekkis> I'll toss in an initiative tracker
21:33:40 <Avatar> what is "have your body recovered by a rescue team" for 5 PP
21:33:57 <Mekkis> if you get involved in a TPK
21:34:05 <Mekkis> and you want to get a raise dead
21:34:12 <Avatar> so it would be 16 + 5 ?
21:34:13 <Mekkis> you need to get your body recovered fist
21:34:16 <Mekkis> first*
21:34:17 <Avatar> that fucking SUCKS
21:34:17 <Mekkis> yes
21:34:18 <Eidren> that's a nice job!
21:34:28 <Mekkis> Avatar, really
21:34:29 <Eidren> your character can be a part of a rescue team
21:34:36 <Mekkis> would you prefer the alternative?
21:34:42 <Avatar> probably !
21:34:43 <Eidren> to rescue other adventurers or retrieve corpses. lol
21:35:10 <Mekkis> Eidren, it happens :S
21:35:25 <Eidren> so you guys have actually done that too?
21:35:41 <Eidren> like accepted a quest or job to retrieve corpses for other players?
21:35:47 <Mekkis> one of my characters has been assigned such a mission, yes
21:35:53 <Avatar> I don't think I can justify spending 1000gp on making my masterwork musket a +1 musket
21:35:55 <Avatar> for just +1 damage
21:36:07 <Mekkis> Avatar, you will want to
21:36:14 <Avatar> can you tell me why
21:36:16 <Mekkis> unless you're planning on changing weapons
21:36:16 <Eidren> +1 damage is a big thing lol
21:36:26 <Avatar> I'm not, the musket is the best gun in the game
21:36:43 <Mekkis> because, if you want to make your musket any other form of magicalness, you need to start with a +1
21:37:09 <Avatar> yeah but I can't do that until I get another 3000gp
21:37:17 <Avatar> and until then it'll just do +1 damage
21:37:19 <Mekkis> so it's an expense you'll need to pay regardless
21:37:29 <Mekkis> (fyi, it's 2000gp to get a +1)
21:37:29 <Avatar> I could spend it on other things before then
21:37:35 <Avatar> what
21:37:39 <Avatar> no, 1000gp
21:37:51 <Mekkis> 1000, 4000, 9000 is armour enhancements
21:38:14 <Mekkis> for weapons it's 2000, 8000, 18000
21:38:27 <Mekkis> for abilities, it's 4000, 16000, 36000
21:38:43 <Avatar> shit you're right
21:39:21 <Avatar> so it's not even 3000gp I'll need
21:39:25 <Mekkis> 6000
21:39:28 <Avatar> after I get myself up to 2000gp, which isn't for a while
21:39:31 <Avatar> it's 6000gp
21:39:33 <Avatar> christ
21:39:44 <Mekkis> what level is Buck now?
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21:39:53 <Avatar> 2.2
21:40:07 <Avatar> I don't really want to uptier until 3
21:40:09 <Mekkis> so two or three scenarios to get 2000gp
21:40:24 <Eidren> pfs is essentially low fantasy huh?
21:40:45 <Mekkis> I would disagree
21:40:51 <canine> high fantasy definitely
21:40:55 <Mekkis> it feels rather high fantasy
21:41:02 <Avatar> 20 point buy is high fantasy
21:41:07 <Eidren> level 12 cap is high fantasy?
21:41:13 <Eidren> 20 is high fantasy yes?
21:41:18 <Eidren> beyond that is epic
21:41:19 <Avatar> level cap doesn't mean anything
21:41:30 <Mekkis> level 12 cap is "we know that it's rather difficult to have a level field above that"
21:41:53 <Mekkis> regardless, Eidren, start complaining about that when your character reaches that level....
21:42:01 <Eidren> so if there's a CR 20 monster that you need to kill.
21:42:10 * Mekkis started PFS in 2009, and his highest levelled character is 9
21:42:16 <Eidren> it's not a complaint.
21:42:22 <Mekkis> achieved level 9 last Friday, actually
21:42:29 <Eidren> lol
21:42:35 <Avatar> I'm sure the tarrasque is in one of these scenarios
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21:42:56 <Eidren> tarrasque? lol
21:42:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, you're up against one at the moment, right?
21:43:07 <Avatar> sorry?
21:43:19 <Avatar> do you mean in real life? no
21:43:26 <Mekkis> sorry
21:43:28 <Mekkis> Buck was
21:43:31 <Mekkis> CR19
21:43:38 <Avatar> no ?
21:43:48 <Avatar> Buck is level 2
21:44:04 <Avatar> is this a spoiler in a scenario you think I've played but haven't ?
21:44:17 <Mekkis> remember the will save you attempted?
21:44:19 <Mekkis> and failed?
21:44:26 <Avatar> no ?
21:44:44 <Avatar> are you talking about the mirage one
21:44:46 <Avatar> with the dragon
21:44:51 <Mekkis> ja
21:44:57 <Avatar> that was a dragon
21:45:05 <Mekkis> indeed
21:46:05 <Avatar> are slaves legal in PFS?
21:46:13 <Avatar> I know leadership is banned
21:46:44 <Mekkis> yes, they are
21:46:52 <Avatar> well shit
21:46:53 <Mekkis> Mytiazair bought ten of them, last scenario
21:47:05 <Avatar> serious?
21:47:07 <Avatar> to do what
21:47:08 <Mekkis> yes
21:47:12 <Mekkis> he's an Andoran
21:47:23 <Avatar> um?
21:47:28 <Avatar> you bought them to free them?
21:47:32 <Avatar> what kind of dumb use is that
21:47:32 <Mekkis> Andorans like buying slaves
21:47:41 <Avatar> my slaves will be working for me
21:47:49 <Avatar> doing good shit
21:47:53 <Mekkis> Grolschmir won't like that
21:47:57 <Avatar> not just of their own free will
21:48:10 <Avatar> don't worry I will pay for them
21:48:14 <Avatar> and treat them well
21:48:23 <Mekkis> as in, he'll free them :)
21:48:24 <Eidren> LOL
21:48:36 <Mekkis> (no PVP doesn't extend to slaves)
21:48:38 <Avatar> he touches my stuff, I touch his stuff
21:49:20 <Mekkis> oh, Eidren, I strongly suggest that you choose a faction from the original five
21:49:48 <Eidren> andoran
21:49:51 <Avatar> I disagree with that
21:49:52 <Eidren> i got a trait from there
21:49:55 <Avatar> choose any from the lot
21:49:59 <Mekkis> Avatar, why?
21:50:07 <Avatar> because they are there to be chosen
21:50:18 <Eidren> captain's blade makes acrobatics a class skill for me
21:50:41 <Mekkis> but I'm telling you that the mods I'm running will - at least for this year - mainly be from before season three
21:50:42 <Avatar> what class are you
21:50:55 <Eidren> sorcerer
21:51:09 <Avatar> it honestly doesn't bother me that I'm grand lodge running osirion faction missions
21:51:11 <Mekkis> meaning that you won't get faction missions from your faction if you're a member of the "new" factions
21:51:14 <Avatar> not in the slightest
21:51:22 <Mekkis> Avatar, did you know that when you chose Grand Lodge?
21:51:28 <Eidren> i'd like to make a sorcerer battle/mage type
21:51:28 <Avatar> yes
21:51:35 <Mekkis> good
21:51:40 <Eidren> mostly ranged weapons , ranged touch attack spells etc
21:51:51 <Mekkis> for instance, Dell wasn't sure about that
21:52:00 <Avatar> and where is Dell now ?
21:52:03 <Mekkis> no idea
21:52:13 <Avatar> he isn't responding to anything
21:52:14 <Avatar> he's on skype
21:52:15 <Mekkis> is there a correlation?
21:52:17 <Avatar> we have his phone number
21:52:21 <Avatar> we have his email
21:52:27 <Avatar> he seemed like a good player
21:52:40 <Mekkis> he didn't attempt any of his faction missions
21:52:44 <Avatar> at least he finished out the module he was playing
21:53:03 <Avatar> maybe he just outright hated PFS
21:53:13 <Avatar> or playing online
21:53:17 <Mekkis> (also: reading the Field Guide makes me really distrust Ambrus Valsin of the Grand Lodge)
21:53:19 <Avatar> never showed it though
21:53:29 <Avatar> oh that's the other thing I had to ask you
21:53:37 <Avatar> where in inner sea does it have the list of golarion languages
21:53:55 <Avatar> I can't work out why they are so well hidden away
21:54:02 <Avatar> I would never have thought to get this book to find them
21:54:15 <Eidren> is there anyway i can do a quickplay
21:54:27 <Avatar> yeah
21:54:29 <Mekkis> what do you mean a quickplay?
21:54:30 <Eidren> like join any group playing soon so i can atleast experience the game.
21:54:41 <Eidren> like i have my character made
21:54:48 <Eidren> and i'd like to try a game.
21:54:51 <Avatar> 124.168.119.93
21:54:52 <Avatar> hook up
21:55:02 <Eidren> huh?
21:55:05 <Mekkis> are you running something, Avatar?
21:55:05 <Avatar> in CA
21:55:12 <Avatar> yeah, a quickplay
21:55:18 <Avatar> trial
21:55:56 <Avatar> that can be you
21:56:10 <Avatar> cool?
21:56:17 <Eidren> yes
21:56:20 <Eidren> im the blue dot.
21:56:25 <Avatar> ok you're outside a cave
21:56:26 <Avatar> with forest behind you
21:56:28 <Avatar> what do you want to do
21:56:32 <Eidren> go in
21:56:38 <Avatar> it looks dangerous
21:56:45 <Avatar> do you have light
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21:56:54 <Avatar> ok, bye
21:56:57 <Mekkis> :s
21:57:02 <Mekkis> that appears unintentional
21:57:08 <Avatar> are you user42
21:57:19 <Mekkis> me?
21:57:20 <Mekkis> no
21:57:22 <Avatar> yeah
21:57:46 <Mekkis> I just connected as Nightmare
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21:57:52 <Avatar> yeah I see you
21:57:55 <Eidren> weird
21:57:58 <Avatar> are you ok
21:57:59 <Eidren> i got dced
21:58:04 <Eidren> what happened?
21:58:08 <Avatar> I don't know
21:58:09 <Avatar> do you have light
21:58:20 <Eidren> i use light, at the tip of my spear
21:58:23 <Mekkis> change your nick, Eidren
21:58:32 <Eidren> how?
21:58:33 <Avatar> what class are you again
21:58:37 <Eidren> btw im new to mirc
21:58:39 <Avatar> don't change your nick for this
21:58:43 diebot sets mode +E #d&d
21:58:43 diebot sets mode +i #d&d
21:58:53 diebot sets mode -E #d&d
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21:58:54 <Avatar> it's just a trial
21:58:56 Eidren is now known as Valkur
21:59:01 diebot gives voice to Valkur
21:59:02 <Avatar> do you have light or not
21:59:03 Valkur is now known as Valkurr
21:59:15 <Valkurr> yay i have some measure of int.
21:59:16 <Valkurr> lol
21:59:24 <Mekkis> mind if I join in, Avatar?
21:59:30 <Avatar> yes, you know how to play
21:59:35 <Mekkis> ok then
21:59:50 <Avatar> what class are you Valkurr
22:00:22 <Valkurr> omg i lost the password you gave me
22:00:25 <Valkurr> it should have saved
22:00:37 <Valkurr> anywayi can retrieve our previous convo
22:00:39 <Avatar> are you uploading your sheet
22:00:51 <Valkurr> no im trying to open it
22:00:56 <Avatar> go to campaigns
22:00:58 <Avatar> then pathfinder society
22:01:10 <Valkurr> k
22:01:31 <Valkurr> i don't think my character has a number yet
22:01:36 <Valkurr> or what ever it was
22:01:38 <Avatar> I don't care
22:01:38 <Avatar> do you have a class
22:01:52 <Valkurr> yes
22:01:54 <Valkurr> a sorcerer
22:01:57 <Avatar> okay
22:02:00 <Avatar> you light up your spear
22:02:23 <Valkurr> i observe my surroundings
22:02:38 <Valkurr> what do i see in this cave?
22:02:39 <Avatar> the walls are rock, 15ft high and it's claustrophobic
22:03:05 <Valkurr> i point my spear forward as i move
22:03:10 <Avatar> which way
22:03:13 <Valkurr> making sure the light is ahead of me
22:03:19 <Valkurr> onwards into the cave
22:03:26 <Valkurr> do i hear anything?
22:03:29 <Avatar> you hit a dead end
22:03:34 <Avatar> roll perception
22:03:58 <Valkurr> !throw 1d20
22:03:58 <diebot> Valkurr, 1d20: [1d20=10] 10
22:04:11 <Avatar> you don't hear anything except your footsteps
22:04:20 <Valkurr> take 20
22:04:44 <Avatar> you hear some movement to the west
22:04:52 <Valkurr> go west
22:05:40 <Valkurr> what do i see?
22:05:50 <Avatar> a dragon !
22:05:58 <Valkurr> run back
22:06:03 <Avatar> actually just two orcs
22:06:07 <Valkurr> lol
22:06:08 <Avatar> and they are attacking !
22:06:10 <Valkurr> cast mage armor
22:06:12 <Avatar> roll for initiative
22:06:14 <Valkurr> wait
22:06:16 <Valkurr> wtf lol
22:06:21 <Avatar> you don't get to cast buffs, they've seen you
22:06:26 <Valkurr> !throw 1d20+3
22:06:27 <diebot> Valkurr, 1d20+3: [1d20=2] 5
22:06:31 <Avatar> !throw 1d20
22:06:31 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20: [1d20=11] 11
22:06:32 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20: [1d20=19] 19
22:06:35 <Avatar> and they both go first
22:06:46 <Avatar> they take out their longbows and shoot at you
22:06:51 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
22:06:52 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=4] 7
22:06:53 <Valkurr> ac 13
22:06:54 <Avatar> one misses
22:06:57 <Avatar> !throw 1d20-1
22:06:57 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20-1: [1d20=16] 15
22:07:01 <Valkurr> eww
22:07:03 <Avatar> the other hits
22:07:07 <Avatar> !throw 1d8
22:08:15 <diebot> Avatar, 1d8: [1d8=5] 5
22:08:18 <Avatar> doing 5 damage
22:08:18 <Avatar> it's your turn
22:08:19 <Valkurr> cast mage armor
22:08:19 <Avatar> ok, movement action remaisn
22:08:19 <Avatar> remains*
22:08:19 <Valkurr> can i use my move to drink a potion of healing?
22:08:20 <Avatar> you have to take it out first
22:08:20 <Avatar> that's a movement action
22:08:21 <Valkurr> ok nvm move back into the narrow passage way
22:08:23 <Avatar> what's your speed
22:08:27 <Valkurr> 30
22:08:54 <Avatar> is that ok?
22:08:58 <Valkurr> to far
22:09:08 <Avatar> well tell me where you're going
22:09:08 <Valkurr> im thinking F3
22:09:16 <Avatar> okay
22:09:20 <Valkurr> thanks
22:09:21 <Avatar> you can't see the orcs anymore and they can't see you
22:09:22 <Valkurr> lol
22:09:28 <Valkurr> ok end turn
22:09:42 <Avatar> but now he can!
22:09:44 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
22:09:45 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=2] 5
22:09:48 <Avatar> but his arrow misses
22:09:50 <Valkurr> ac 17
22:09:54 <Avatar> the other one is still not in sight
22:09:56 <Avatar> it's your turn
22:10:10 <Valkurr> use sp elemental ray 1d6+1 lightning damage ranged touch attack
22:10:21 <Valkurr> !throwdice 1d20+3
22:10:25 <Avatar> wait a sec
22:10:26 <Valkurr> oops
22:10:58 <Avatar> it's 1d6
22:11:01 <Avatar> you get +1 at second level
22:11:08 <Avatar> roll it
22:11:08 <Valkurr> oh
22:11:19 <Valkurr> !throw 1d20+3
22:11:19 <diebot> Valkurr, 1d20+3: [1d20=1] 4
22:11:23 <Valkurr> ~_~
22:11:26 <Avatar> okay, he's injured
22:11:36 <Avatar> it's the orcsies turn
22:11:41 <Avatar> oh uh
22:11:44 <Avatar> you have a movement action remaining
22:11:53 <Valkurr> get the potion out
22:11:57 <Avatar> ok
22:11:57 <Valkurr> i havent bought it btw
22:12:01 <Avatar> it's the orcsies turn
22:12:02 <Valkurr> but i will
22:12:04 <Avatar> we can pretend you have it
22:12:14 <Avatar> the first one shoots at you !
22:12:20 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
22:12:21 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=17] 20
22:12:26 <Valkurr> take out my vorpal repeating crossbow +20
22:12:33 <Avatar> !throw 1d8
22:12:34 <diebot> Avatar, 1d8: [1d8=6] 6
22:12:37 <Avatar> dealing 6 damage to you
22:12:40 <Valkurr> im dead
22:12:41 <Avatar> how many hp do you have
22:12:41 <Valkurr> lol
22:12:46 <Valkurr> 7
22:12:56 <Valkurr> dun dun dun
22:12:59 <Avatar> yeah
22:13:03 <Valkurr> LOL
22:13:10 <Avatar> you're found by a group of pathfinders later and they rescue you
22:13:18 <Valkurr> you mean my corpse..
22:13:21 <Avatar> and turn you into One of Them
22:13:25 <Valkurr> probably eaten by those
22:13:26 <Avatar> no, the orcs stabilise you
22:13:38 <Valkurr> to what end?
22:13:41 <Avatar> they are friendly orcs
22:13:48 <Avatar> they thought you were coming to destroy them with your sorcery
22:13:49 <Valkurr> dude they shot at me.
22:13:57 <Avatar> you were deemed a threat
22:14:02 <Avatar> they were trapped
22:14:03 <Valkurr> huh...
22:14:09 <Avatar> blocking the exit
22:14:16 <Avatar> imagine if you had some diplomacy
22:14:19 <Avatar> +21 to diplomacy
22:14:20 <Valkurr> LOL
22:14:29 <Valkurr> i wouldn't talk to them
22:14:42 <Mekkis> why not?
22:15:13 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
22:15:29 <Valkurr> i'd shoot them too
22:15:30 <Valkurr> they are orcs afterall.
22:15:30 <Avatar> see you are evil
22:15:31 <Valkurr> LOL
22:15:31 <Avatar> they just wanted to be left alone
22:15:31 <Avatar> and you came in with your lightning bolts and everything
22:15:31 <Avatar> lightning bolts and alchemy
22:15:31 <Valkurr> i came in to observe
22:15:31 <Avatar> they were scared out of their minds
22:15:31 <Valkurr> they shot at me
22:15:34 <Valkurr> i did not know that
22:15:35 <Avatar> +21
22:16:00 <Avatar> good game
22:16:14 <Valkurr> thanks
22:16:18 <Avatar> you can have the experience point but you didn't complete your faction mission which was to make peace with the orcs
22:16:37 <Valkurr> there was no exp
22:16:38 <Valkurr> lol
22:16:44 <Avatar> well no I guess not
22:16:47 <Avatar> you can change your nick back now
22:16:54 Valkurr is now known as Eidren
22:16:56 <Avatar> are you Valkurr or Balkurr
22:16:59 <Avatar> the site has Balkurr
22:17:03 <Eidren> i wanted Valkurr
22:17:08 <Avatar> good grief
22:17:13 <Eidren> the site would not change it
22:17:20 <Avatar> you can't change it once it's created
22:17:24 <Avatar> sec
22:17:37 <Mekkis> Eidren, I was looking at your sheet...
22:17:44 <Mekkis> are you an elf or a half-elf?
22:17:51 <Eidren> elf
22:18:01 <Eidren> did i make a mistake?
22:18:17 <Avatar> check your pm for a new password
22:18:23 <Mekkis> yeah, unfortunately: elves get +2 int +2 dex -2 con
22:18:44 <Eidren> i factored that in?
22:19:05 <Eidren> oh int
22:19:06 <Eidren> not cha
22:19:07 <Eidren> lol
22:19:12 <Mekkis> ja
22:19:16 <Eidren> i'll be a halfling then.
22:19:17 <Eidren> LOL
22:19:24 <Mekkis> fair enough
22:19:30 <Eidren> or half elf?
22:19:32 <Avatar> half elf
22:19:32 <Eidren> what's better
22:19:37 <Avatar> human is better
22:19:39 <Mekkis> for sorcerer?
22:19:42 <Mekkis> gnome!
22:19:54 <Eidren> gnomes get +int yes?
22:19:55 <Avatar> gnome probably is better with that bloody reroll
22:20:03 <Avatar> Mekkis: reroll only on a roll of 1?
22:20:03 <Mekkis> gnomes get +cha +con -str
22:20:09 <Mekkis> Avatar, correct
22:20:23 <Mekkis> and only if you have Gnomes of Golarion
22:20:45 <Mekkis> Gnomes also add +1 to the save DC of illusion spells
22:20:52 <Mekkis> (like colour spray)
22:21:28 <Mekkis> Avatar, I'll be able to run PFS on Saturday afternoon, if you want
22:21:41 <Avatar> I don't know how I missed that
22:21:41 <Avatar> Eidren: once you upload your Valkurr sheet, I'll delete Balkurr
22:21:42 <Eidren> ok
22:21:42 <Eidren> sec
22:21:44 <Avatar> what tiem
22:21:54 <Avatar> some of the foreigners might not like that
22:22:01 <Eidren> lol
22:22:07 <Eidren> you guys are 3 hours ahead of me
22:22:12 <Mekkis> say... 13:30 UTC+10
22:22:16 <Avatar> zerib is eager to play I think
22:22:18 <Eidren> i can play around 5pm beyond your time.
22:22:29 <Avatar> what time is that in zeribland
22:22:48 <Avatar> like 11pm ?
22:23:11 <Avatar> what that's not UTC+11
22:23:21 <Avatar> 2.30pm
22:23:46 <Mekkis> yeah
22:23:48 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 22nd 2.30pm (Mekkis) |LSK: Sat 22nd Oct 7pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
22:23:56 <Mekkis> any requests?
22:24:10 <Eidren> 3pm?
22:24:10 <Avatar> first steps 2/3
22:24:12 <Eidren> lol
22:24:20 <Avatar> maybe
22:24:24 <Avatar> I'd have to play as mellon
22:25:00 <Avatar> I don't know if I could go back to not using a gun
22:25:10 <Avatar> it's like a drug
22:25:43 <Eidren> why? what's with guns?
22:25:53 <Avatar> you shoot against touch AC
22:26:00 <Avatar> I don't care about armour
22:26:14 <Mekkis> considering: First Steps II, First Steps III, City of Strangers II, Frostfur, Murder on the Silken Caravan, Frozen Fingers of Midnight, Decline of Glory
22:26:26 <Avatar> we played city of strangers 2 on sunday man
22:26:38 <Mekkis> great
22:26:56 <Avatar> if I'm not playing (unlikely) then consider frostfur
22:27:06 <Avatar> first steps 2 or 3 would be good for everyone I think
22:27:13 <Avatar> everyone has a level 1 character
22:27:14 <Mekkis> I want to get Mellon to third :)
22:27:22 <Avatar> why, I'm not even trying to level him
22:27:26 <Mekkis> ummm
22:27:29 <Mekkis> buck to third
22:27:43 <Avatar> well either of the last 3 then
22:28:06 <Mekkis> I'll just make sure that they're not retired
22:28:14 <Avatar> decline of glory sounds good maybe
22:28:38 <Avatar> but try and prioritise zerib and eidrehn
22:28:39 <Avatar> they haven't played yet
22:29:02 <Mekkis> if I run at 1-2, it's a season 0, so it's generally considerably easier
22:29:10 <Avatar> it's possible mort and nodwik will be back for more too
22:29:23 <Avatar> what's going to happen if we get too many players
22:29:32 <Avatar> we haven't had that happen in a single session before
22:29:57 <Mekkis> then we split channels and get two DMs
22:29:58 <Avatar> in any case, change the timeslot if they can't make it
22:33:22 <Mekkis> I'll run The Frozen Fingers of Midnight
22:33:39 * Mekkis dusts off his 3.5e monster manual
22:33:52 <Eidren> lol what a name
22:34:00 <Eidren> frozen fingers of midnight.
22:34:04 <Mekkis> I'm running out of scenarios to run
22:34:10 <Mekkis> anyone want to gift me some?
22:34:34 <Eidren> any chance you could run a non pfs game?
22:34:38 <Mekkis> yes
22:34:39 <Eidren> or you guys strictly run
22:34:40 <Eidren> pfs?
22:35:22 <Mekkis> I've been wanting to run something, but I'm trying to find consistent players
22:35:24 <Eidren> yes pfs or yes you run non pfs too?
22:35:44 <Mekkis> something non-pfs
22:35:48 <Eidren> if you get a consistent timeslot
22:35:55 <Eidren> i will be one of your consistent players
22:36:57 <Eidren> you are 3 hours ahead of me, i can play if it's 4pm onwards your time.
22:37:26 <Mekkis> I'll see
22:54:08 <snypt> ill be a regular player for you mekkis
22:54:14 <snypt> u just need to run your game on mondays =P
22:55:21 <Mekkis> hn
23:02:09 <Mekkis> Avatar, your list of languages:
23:02:12 <Mekkis> http://dnd.pastebay.com/141617
23:02:17 <Mekkis> (ISWG p251)
23:02:19 <Mekkis> goodnight all
23:10:40 <snypt> nn
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