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00:36 <Ballig> no you don't
00:47 <Ballig> the very first time he came in here he argued that everything old is better than everything new
00:54 <Ballig> and that young people these days didn't know how to do shit
00:55 <Ballig> blah blah blah
01:19 <Ballig> Sachiru: were you from the philippines?
01:30 <Sachiru> I was, and still am, from the Philippines.
01:54 <Sachiru> Wait, he was arguing that 2E was better than 3.5E?
01:59 <Sachiru> Logs.
02:05 <Sachiru> I demand logs.
02:12 <Ballig> he was arguing that cars from the 60s are better than cars from today
02:18 <Ballig> but then went so far as to say EVERYTHING was better back then
02:30 <Ballig> Sachiru: Eidren is from the philippines too, maybe you know each other
02:53 <Sachiru> Ballig, the population in the Philippines is currently nearing 95 million people.
02:59 <Ballig> so
03:02 <Sachiru> I highly doubt that I would know Eidren.
03:04 <Ballig> are you saying you can't possibly know him
03:17 <Sachiru> Even if he gave me his real name and stuff, which I can conclude that he won't,
03:26 <Ballig> it's william
03:31 <Sachiru> Nah.
03:41 <Sachiru> I don't know any Williams, besides Gates.
04:29 <Sachiru> I rarely play *anything* nowadays, anyway.
04:45 <Sachiru> And if I do, I tend towards 3.5E and 4E. PF's not my taste, sadly.
04:52 <Mekkis> did you hear Stallman's response to Jobs' death?
05:36 <Mekkis> "Nobody deserves to have to die – not Jobs, not Mr Bill, not even people guilty of bigger evils than theirs. But we all deserve the end of Jobs' malign influence on people's computing."
06:11 <Ballig> the only issue I had was that after Jobs died everyone went on about how he completely innovated the electronics/computing industry
06:15 <Eidren> im still here....
06:19 <Ballig> and I'm sorry, but as far as I'm aware nothing apple did was particularly innovative
06:30 <Ballig> it just did things more stylish, and marketed them well enough, that they became popular
06:36 <Mekkis> their marketing was innovative
06:42 <Ballig> but ipod wasn't the first mp3 player, ipad wasn't the first tablet, and iphone wasn't the first smart phone
06:59 <Ballig> and yeah, making those items more popular did help to make it more profitable for people to invest in them
07:15 <Ballig> but he certainly didn't revolutionise the industry like people were saying
07:40 <Eidren> ballig must die is really entertaining
07:45 <Eidren> you guys should try playing it.
07:47 <Mekkis> I think it's bad that Dennis Richie didn't get more recognition, as he has the misfortune to die on the same week as Jobs
08:10 <Mekkis> Dennis Richie DID revolutionise the industry
08:18 <Sachiru> @Eidren out of curiosity, which part of the Philippines do you come from?
08:32 <Sachiru> Also, although I'm quite sure this is a bannable offense:
08:40 <Sachiru> Sino ang Pilipino sa mga magulang mo, Eidren?
08:50 <Sachiru> (Which of your parents was Filipino, Eidren)?
08:51 <Mekkis> quick, ban him! :P
08:51 <Eidren> my mum
08:57 <Sachiru> Ah.
08:58 <Eidren> makati
09:04 <Sachiru> And your dad is...?
09:05 <Eidren> im from itchy
09:26 <Eidren> my dad? is a hellspawn
09:27 <Eidren> lol
09:31 <Ballig> YOU ARE SO BANNED
09:37 * Mekkis is playing Orcs must die...
09:38 <Sachiru> I see.
09:54 <Eidren> Ballig must die!
09:58 <Ballig> :(
10:04 <Sachiru> Quite far, then, from my location (About 120km give or take a few, since I live in Angeles City. At Fields Avenue, even.)
10:10 <Sachiru> Anyhow, back to CSI.
10:25 <Eidren> i'm a city boy lol
10:46 <Ballig> 120km is "quite far" in the philippines?
10:46 <Eidren> i don't even know where that is.
10:51 <Eidren> yes ballig
11:08 <Eidren> but i understand to orcs that's not very far on foot huh?
11:31 <Avatar> are you lot still up
11:36 <Avatar> we have a game in like 8 hours
11:48 <Eidren> yes i will not be sleeping 
11:53 <Eidren> till then
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12:06 <Sachiru> Pampanga, Eidren.
12:34 <Eidren> pampanga si leonor wong ba mayor nyo dyan?
12:36 <Eidren> tama ba?
12:50 <Sachiru> No, not Leonor Wong.
13:03 <Eidren> sino?
13:22 <Sachiru> Some guy named Pamintuan.
13:33 <Eidren> ok nvm i guess tita is from a different province
13:35 <Eidren> shame on me
13:36 <Eidren> lol
13:38 <Sachiru> Let's speak in English. Ballig might be inclined to ban us.
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13:52 <Eidren> Ballig speaks in tongues at times.
13:56 <Ballig> I'm not going to ban you for talking in another language :p
14:25 <Sachiru> @Ballig, considering that the main island is like only a thousand kilometers from north to south.
14:29 <Eidren> sachiru
14:30 <Sachiru> 150 km is quite far.
14:35 <Eidren> are you sure it's not leonor wong?
14:38 <Sachiru> That's like one tenth of the entire island.
14:42 <Eidren> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjaiQMkLiyM
14:47 <Ballig> I will be going 700km on a bus on wednesday
14:48 <Sachiru> No, I'm quite sure it isn't Leonor Wong.
14:54 <Sachiru> It's Pampanga, not Pangasinan.
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15:10 <Ballig> ha, I guilted nodwik into joining
15:10 <Ballig> :p
15:17 <Eidren> san simon
15:22 <Sachiru> @Ballig crud, that IS far.
15:24 <Eidren> is pampanga yes?
15:48 <Sachiru> Pampanga's quite large.
15:57 <Sachiru> If it's in San Simon, that's rather far from my place.
16:18 <Eidren> LOL how many mayors does pampanga have?
16:21 <Eidren> >_<
16:34 <Sachiru> San Simon is the Southmost part of Pampanga. We're at the northmost part.
16:50 <Eidren> nvm
16:52 <Eidren> i know nothing.
17:00 <Eidren> i just spout nonsense all the time.
17:06 <Eidren> i have 10 int.
17:19 <Sachiru> Pampanga has 20 municipalities.
17:20 <Sachiru> So...
17:28 <Eidren> Ballig has 8... so..
17:32 <Eidren> joke
17:54 <Eidren> Ballig Must Die tm
19:15 * Ballig has offered austnet.tar.gz (13392700 bytes)
19:52 * DCC RECV connection established to Ballig [109.235.52.28:43722]
20:37 <Eidren> hmm Die Vecna Die!
20:44 <Eidren> into Die Ballig Die! rofl
20:53 * DCC RECV austnet.tar.gz to Ballig stalled - aborting.
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21:20 <Ballig> k9
21:26 <Eidren> http://www.trollandtoad.com/images/products/pictures/115386.jpg
21:53 <Sachiru> A year ago, I was the only Filipino, besides Ads, who went on IRC for D&D and other pen-and-paper RPG games.
22:02 <canine> heyhey
22:10 <Sachiru> Now, I've found no less than seven, and the number is rising.
22:18 <Sachiru> WHAT HAS THE WORLD GONE TO?!?!
22:19 <Ballig> don't lie Sachiru, you are the only filipino in the world
22:29 <Sachiru> True, that.
22:47 <Eidren> sachiru
22:51 <Sachiru> Considering that Eidren is half-Filipino half-hellspawn, I may be the only full-blooded Pinoy on the internet.
22:55 <Eidren> our country has a VERY small player base.
23:00 <Ballig> what's a pinoy
23:05 <Eidren> it's food
23:08 <Sachiru> It's... not as small as you think.
23:10 <Eidren> boiled duck embryo
23:19 <Sachiru> @Pinoy = abbreviation of Filipino.
23:36 <Sachiru> Eidren's referring to penoy, which is not duck embryo, but duck eggs.
23:41 <Sachiru> Balut is duck embryo.
25:10 <Ballig> do you often eat embryos
25:19 <Eidren> no it's digusting.
26:08 <Eidren> one of many local exotic food.
26:13 <Sachiru> The, shall we say, lesser-income Filipinos do.
26:49 <Sachiru> I personally don't, due to religious beliefs (respect for life), and the fact that it has a high uric acid content, which I hear is bad for my heart and joints.
27:00 <Sachiru> Though I'd feel the effects in 25 years or so.
27:00 <Ballig> are you vegetarian
27:22 <canine> seems like embryo would be more of a high-price food
27:22 <Eidren> thank god im agnostic
27:23 <Sachiru> No, no, but I firmly believe that once the egg starts growing into a bird, you should leave it well alone.
27:23 <canine> can
27:37 <Ballig> but uh
27:40 <Ballig> you'll eat the grown bird?
27:45 <Sachiru> Yes.
27:50 <Ballig> that doesn't make any sense
27:53 <Sachiru> It, at least, has been able to taste life.
27:58 <Sachiru> The embryo hasn't.
28:01 <Ballig> why does the embryo have more right to live than the grown duck
28:14 <Ballig> do you eat chicken eggs?
28:20 <Sachiru> Depends.
28:33 <Sachiru> Does the chicken egg have visible feathers and blood flowing?
28:36 <Sachiru> If it does, no.
28:40 <Sachiru> If it doesn't, yes.
28:48 <Ballig> the egg hasn't tasted life
28:50 <canine> what does that have to do with anything though
28:58 <Ballig> seems like some arbitrary logic here
29:00 * Sachiru shrugs.
29:12 <Sachiru> Well, I did say that it was a RELIGIOUS belief.
29:14 <Sachiru> So...
29:47 <Ballig> what religion is that
29:51 <Ballig> crazy duck religion?
30:14 <Eidren> *gasp* BLASPHEMY
32:43 <Eidren> ~_~
41:07 <Sachiru> !spelldesc Blasphemy
41:07 <diebot> Sachiru, Any nonevil creature within the area of a blasphemy spell suffers the following ill effects. HD Effect Equal to caster level Dazed Up to caster level -1 Weakened, dazed Up to caster level -5 Paralyzed, weakened, dazed Up to caster level -10 Killed, paralyzed, weakened, dazed  The effects are cumulative and concurrent. A successful Will save reduces or eliminates these effects. Creatures affected by multiple effects make only one save and apply th
41:26 <Sachiru> The most powerful spell for dispatching non-evil enemies.
41:34 <Sachiru> Works even on Neutrals, I think.
42:56 <Eidren> ebul
47:14 <Sachiru> Instantly kills anything with HD lower than your CL.
47:34 <Sachiru> With CL stacking, can kill even the dreaded Atropal, assuming you get close enough to it to use it.
48:14 <Sachiru> Though I have yet to see a character that can kill a Neutronium Golem without having a level in three digits, itself.
50:09 <Eidren> atropals are evil though
54:45 <Sachiru> !spelldesc Holy Word
54:46 <diebot> Sachiru, Any nongood creature within the area of a holy word spell suffers the following ill effects. HD Effect Equal to caster level Deafened Up to caster level -1 Blinded, deafened Up to caster level -5 Paralyzed, blinded, deafened Up to caster level -10 Killed, paralyzed, blinded, deafened The effects are cumulative and concurrent. A successful Will save reduces or eliminates these effects. Creatures affected by multiple effects make only one save and 
54:53 <Sachiru> There we go.
55:52 <Eidren> that would never kill one,atropals are epic
56:01 <Eidren> are did they nerf atropals
58:20 <Sachiru> With a high enough CL.
58:22 <Sachiru> It can.
58:53 <Sachiru> It isn't a death effect, so the Atropal's immunity to death effects does diddly-squat against it.
59:11 <Sachiru> The issue isn't the effectivity of the spell, it's whether you can get close enough to cast it to begin with.
59:35 <Eidren> true enough atropals are notoriously crafty too
59:53 <Eidren> they prefer manipulation and spell casting lol
00:19 <Eidren> a heigthened maximized disintrigate should do the trick
00:29 <Eidren> disintigrate*
02:17 <Sachiru> Disintegrate would do even less effect.
02:52 <Sachiru> And atropals aren't crafty or manipulators.
02:59 <Sachiru> They aren't fully sentient to begin with.
03:04 <Eidren> lol
03:10 <Sachiru> They're undead gods. Aborted god fetuses, to be exact.
03:11 <Eidren> ok
04:40 <Eidren> they are not gods.
04:41 <Sachiru> I doubt a disintegrate, no matter how maximized, would affect something with 66d12 hp and undead traits.
04:59 <Eidren> not even close to demi god or exarch level
05:40 <Sachiru> Source?
05:40 <Eidren> undead lol
05:49 <Eidren> i wonder what kind of atropal you had in mind.
06:19 <Sachiru> The kind of undead god that can be found in Libris Mortis page 84.
06:38 <Sachiru> Which is the primary source of fluff for the Atropal heading in the SRD.
08:44 <Eidren> 1 sec i'll find that atropal
08:46 <Eidren> ^_^
08:52 <Eidren> sentient
10:00 <Mekkis> Sachiru, I could
10:24 <Sachiru> @Mekkis, care to share the method?
10:54 <Mekkis> a level 21 sorcerer could do it
11:03 <Mekkis> with the brokenness of epic spells
11:14 <Mekkis> just a sec
11:20 <Mekkis> did you say 66d12 HD?
11:59 <Mekkis> that's *only* 429 damage
12:03 <Eidren> 66D12 lol
12:05 <Eidren> yes
12:20 <Eidren> my level 20 sorc could do more than that,
12:21 <Mekkis> Blitzstriek does that sort of damage in one hit
12:45 <Eidren> i played DDO before
12:51 <Eidren> i could crit for 600+
12:53 <Eidren> damage lol
13:06 <Mekkis> Blitzstriek crits for four digits
13:20 <Eidren> where is that stupid sentient atropal gone to?
13:21 <Eidren> sigh
13:28 <Eidren> epic spells huh?
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13:39 <Eidren> i havent played any games that are epic
14:20 <Eidren> has sachiru been with you guys for long?
14:26 <Eidren> mekkis?
14:32 <Mekkis> on and off
14:36 <Mekkis> never really played anything
14:57 <Mekkis> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=220
15:49 <Eidren> lol @ spells "why do i bother"
15:52 <Eidren> ROFL
16:07 <Mekkis> actually, it's not sorcerer cleric anymore
16:15 <Mekkis> it's arcane spellcaster / divine spellcaster
16:25 <Eidren> whyd you need it anyway?
16:28 Nodwik is now known as Nodwik_out_for_chores
16:33 <Mekkis> lets him use wands
17:17 <Eidren> rofl
17:23 <Eidren> ok i get it
18:23 <Mekkis> that was designed for the "powergame to heart's content" thing that Ballig did
18:24 <Eidren> im not even going to bother to read the rest of this giant squid
18:31 <Eidren> he could make cthulu cry
18:35 <Mekkis> before he realised that saying that would be bad
19:07 <Mekkis> this was after Jager's character had 27 books to his name
19:22 <Eidren> who's jager?
19:34 <Eidren> Jager Tharn! imperial battlemage?
19:37 <Mekkis> so this was built with the "three books + MIC + SC + core" rules
19:37 <Eidren> elder scrolls?
19:38 <Eidren> lol
19:46 <Mekkis> Heinrich Jager, Tank Commander
19:57 <Mekkis> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=208
20:24 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/tank_exposed.html
20:29 <Mekkis> colour coded with books used
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25:10 <Eidren> that's weird
25:15 <Eidren> you all get dced at the same time
25:20 <Eidren> and get restored at the same time.
25:23 <Mekkis> it's called a netsplit
25:31 <Eidren> what does it do?
25:39 <Mekkis> it's what happens when one IRC server loses connection to another
25:49 <Mekkis> you know what the "R" in IRC stands for?
26:52 <Eidren> i know nothing lol
26:55 <Eidren> explain?
29:13 <Mekkis> IRC stands for Internet Relay Chat
29:28 <Mekkis> what you type gets relayed between the multiple servers
30:04 <Mekkis> Austnet has multiple servers, and not all the users are on the same server
30:42 <Mekkis> evidently Derau, Mekkis, ChanOP , Eidren and knifebunny are on one half, and everyone else is on the other half
30:54 <Mekkis> and the link between the halves was cut
31:55 <Eidren> lol lucky me!
31:56 <Eidren> thanks for telling me.
32:18 <Mekkis> actually, MekkisScreen is on a different server to Mekkis 
32:28 <Mekkis> even though we're both connecting from the same host
33:42 <Eidren> that seems really odd!
33:45 <Eidren> same connection though
34:05 <Mekkis> no
34:08 <Mekkis> different connection
34:10 <Mekkis> same computer
35:26 <Eidren> question
35:29 <Eidren> why you up so late?
35:32 <Eidren> lol
35:52 <Mekkis> was hacking out some code
35:56 <Mekkis> and lost track of time
36:15 <Eidren> HACK??? omg hackerrr
36:24 <Eidren> i don't really know what that means
36:32 <Mekkis> umm... writing some code...
37:04 <Mekkis> diebot's spells and magic item lists need a bit of work
39:44 <Eidren> so when you say hacking
39:52 <Eidren> you are writing codes
50:27 <Eidren> i do know how to hack a person to pieces properly though,
50:28 <Eidren> .
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24:38 <Eidren> my favorite artist
24:41 <Eidren> just launched her new song
24:43 <Eidren> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU0ntU15nkk&feature=youtu.be
24:49 <Eidren> if you'd care to check it out.
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50:22 <Avatar> looks like my body wants to take naps, not sleep
59:10 <Eidren> avatar is awake!
00:10 <Avatar> unfortunately
00:17 <Eidren> my eyes are beggining to hurt lol
00:21 <Eidren> i may need to sleep
00:24 <Avatar> maybe you should nap
00:33 <Avatar> still 5 hours to go
00:39 <Eidren> im working atm
00:45 <Avatar> what do you mean
00:53 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
00:59 <Eidren> my job is to maintain a website
01:04 <Eidren> our client is american
01:09 <Eidren> which explains the odd hours.
01:23 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sun 23rd 10am (Mekkis) |LSK: Sat 7.30pm || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE by the Friday before! || EM: Sat 2pm | CotE: Sun 3.30pm
01:31 <Eidren> so i actually work at night at home
01:31 <Eidren> lol
01:53 <Avatar> I would fit in a nice nap
02:11 <Eidren> i could
02:12 <Avatar> or maybe a coffee
02:16 <Eidren> but i may doze off
02:22 <Eidren> i hate coffee
02:36 <Eidren> my faveorite artist just released her new song
02:37 <Eidren> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU0ntU15nkk&feature=youtu.be
02:41 <Eidren> check it out!
02:47 <Eidren> she's weird though.
02:55 <Eidren> just something random i wanted to share.
05:12 <Eidren> australians are beggining to like our site.
05:22 <Eidren> i'd warn them not to buy anything from us
05:26 <Eidren> but i can't lol
05:40 <Avatar> I won't be looking at any videos of songs right now
05:47 <Eidren> why not?
05:53 <Avatar> I will be dozing off again if I can help it
06:00 <Avatar> my head is still buzzing from the dumb nap
06:18 <Eidren> ah that will take awhile 
06:47 <Eidren> naps are evil things.
09:45 <Avatar> well that's not true
10:01 <Avatar> naps are just another type of sleep, and sleep is the best thing ever
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00:20 * canine looks around
04:14 <Avatar> yo
04:25 <Avatar> server is in a netsplit
04:42 <Avatar> you wanting to play today canine?
06:06 <canine> If its going to start soon, sure
06:11 <Avatar> one hour
06:14 <canine> cool
06:18 <Avatar> not like yesterday
06:31 <Avatar> we actually started tonight but we didn't really get far
06:35 <Avatar> you can join in
06:49 <canine> if you've already got a group I can wait
06:49 <Avatar> ...but we got far enough for eidren to almost die
07:09 <Avatar> if you want to play, it's better that you join
07:16 <canine> I'm working on a little program to calculate PFS character ability numbers
08:04 <Avatar> all you missed was the VC's giant wall of text and this single encounter which shouldn't have taken as long as it did
08:12 <canine> yeah I jump in then
08:25 <canine> any idea about how long the session will run?
08:33 <canine> *I'll
08:37 <Avatar> 3-4 hours as usual, unless we're good to go for longer
09:13 <canine> cool
09:37 <Avatar> I'll send you the log
09:41 <canine> k
09:47 <canine> I'll need my quest too
10:00 <Avatar> Mekkis will have to give you that
11:05 <Avatar> game starts at 22:24
12:08 <canine> cool
12:23 <canine> before you start allocating points, all abilities are at 10, right?
12:30 <canine> when creating a new char
13:03 <Avatar> yeah
13:12 <canine> cool
24:17 <Avatar> shit I need to buy a vial for my faction mission
25:08 <Ballig> sup jerks
25:12 <Avatar> your the jerk
27:06 <Avatar> what's your faction mission ballig
27:17 <Ballig> got to get something personal from skelg, like a lock of hair
27:27 <Ballig> so the cheliax bitch can scry on him
27:29 <Avatar> like, something for DNA?
27:36 <Ballig> just something personal for scrying purposes
27:43 <Avatar> why are you helping the cheliax bitch
27:48 <Ballig> because I'm cheliax
27:52 <Avatar> oh are you
27:55 <Ballig> yeah
27:55 <Avatar> I thought you were taldan
27:57 <Avatar> that's the other joker
27:59 <Ballig> bobbob is taldan
28:14 <Avatar> my mission is weirdly worded
28:33 <Avatar> the curse is apparently "connected to a magic lantern"
28:45 <Avatar> I'm supposed to get a vial full of oil from it
28:55 <Avatar> but I'm not to steal the lantern from skelg
29:15 <Avatar> so that assumes it's in the building we're going in
29:37 <Avatar> if skelg is even there
29:46 <Ballig> huh, so your faction mission actually gives us a clue to what we need to do for the main mission
29:48 <Ballig> that's interesting
31:24 <Avatar> and brunius and eidren are both andoran
33:53 <Avatar> hey you can buy a masterwork "tool" for any skill, which gives you a +2 bonus
35:47 <Ballig> does it really say "any" skill, or is it "almost any"
35:59 <Ballig> I know you can get masterwork thieves tools, masterwork climbers kit, masterwork alchemist stuff
36:11 <Avatar> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/olderProducts/pathfinderRPGBeta/design/equipment/masterworkToolNotAppropriateForEverySkill&page=1#3
36:59 <Ballig> that doesn't mean you can get it in PFS
38:04 <Avatar> why wouldn't you
38:05 <Ballig> eidren was a bit annoying last night
38:14 <Ballig> same reason you can't get a heavy pony
38:23 <Avatar> heavy pony isn't in the core rulebook
38:25 <Avatar> this is
38:28 <Ballig> it's in the bestiary
38:33 <Ballig> which is an available source
38:38 <Avatar> does it have a pricetag
38:39 <Ballig> but because it's not listed in equipment lists, it's not available
38:43 <Ballig> does this?
38:46 <Avatar> yes, 50gp
38:57 <Ballig> which page?
39:07 <Avatar> p148 of the SRD
39:14 <Ballig> what about the core rulebook
39:19 <Avatar> it's under tools
39:27 <Avatar> tools and skill kits, under equipment
39:49 <Avatar> just under the description for thieves tools
39:51 <Ballig> ah it's "Tool, Masterwork
39:52 <Ballig> "
40:01 <Avatar> yeah
40:11 <Ballig> odd that they'd give specific tools (thieves, climbers kit, healers kit) and then just a vague "tool"
41:32 <Ballig> they're only 1lb too
41:36 <Ballig> I should get one for every skill I have
41:59 <Ballig> tools for perception would be great
43:36 <Avatar> one of the paizo guys is weighing on in the thread and he makes it out to be a pretty non-issue what you come up with
43:42 <Ballig> "Sit, Sparky. Good boy. Now shake. Good boy. Now, don't be gay."
43:46 <Avatar> that is a brilliant idea
43:51 <Avatar> let's buy some perception tools
44:25 <Avatar> I think we have to be able to give it some sort of description
44:42 <Avatar> I'm thinking contact lenses
44:52 <Ballig> yeah, lenses and uh... hearing aid?
44:52 <Ballig> :p
44:58 <Avatar> YEP
45:08 <Avatar> but they're designed to enhance regular perception, not fix faulty perception
45:26 <Avatar> it's like we're playing shadowrun now
45:36 <Ballig> hmm.. what about "a bottle of nodoze"?
45:45 <Avatar> what's that
45:52 <Ballig> pills you can use to stay awake :p
45:56 <Ballig> truck drivers use them
46:04 <Avatar> this is for +2 on a skill
46:37 <Ballig> yeah
46:39 <Ballig> they make you more alert
46:44 <Ballig> it's like concentrated caffeine
46:50 <Avatar> oh, for perception
47:03 <Avatar> tools don't actually run out
47:08 <Ballig> I know
47:12 <Avatar> oh wait I lie, some do
47:16 <Ballig> healers kits do
48:57 <Avatar> some people are talking about buying a smaller version of a telescope
49:02 <Avatar> but uh, a spyglass is already in there
49:18 <Avatar> and it's 1000gp
50:45 <Ballig> yeah
51:02 <Ballig> I have to wonder if a DM would rule that you can only use the tool for active perception checks though
51:05 <Ballig> like with a spyglass
51:11 <Ballig> only helps if you are actively looking through it
52:19 <Avatar> not a problem with contact lenses
52:39 <Avatar> yeah with everything else obviously you'd need to be using it
55:44 <Ballig> there's a netsplit
55:55 <Avatar> yeah I've messaged brunius on skype 
56:00 <Avatar> he hasn't responded
56:04 <Avatar> mekkis should be on both sides of the split
56:15 <Avatar> and eidren can come on skype
56:44 <Ballig> eidren is on skype
56:47 <Ballig> he's on the other side of the split
56:48 Eidren ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
56:50 <Ballig> sup
56:54 <Avatar> speak of the devil
56:59 <Eidren> Die in a fire.
57:12 <Avatar> you will if you run into a fight head first with 10hp
57:28 <Eidren> how unfortunate i did not.
57:45 <Eidren> a game using dice.
57:59 <Avatar> well the object is survive
58:02 <Avatar> to*
58:22 <Eidren> let's start!~
58:31 <Avatar> mekkis isn't here yet I don't think
58:36 <Avatar> neither is brunius
58:46 <Avatar> how is brunius not here when we all went to bed later than him
58:56 <Eidren> brunius is in the other half of this "netsplit"
59:05 <Avatar> did you see him
59:08 <Avatar> was he talking
59:09 <Eidren> yes
59:13 <Avatar> ?
59:15 <Eidren> he changed his name from derau
59:18 <Eidren> to brunius
59:20 <Avatar> is he coming the
59:21 <Avatar> n
59:22 <Eidren> i assume he is
59:25 <Eidren> i have no idea.
59:44 <Avatar> I don't suppose you checked what server you were on before you left? :P
00:02 <Ballig> diebot is here
00:15 <Avatar> well we're all here
00:17 <Avatar> he's got to come to us
02:20 <Avatar> Mekkis: when you wake up, I'll sms brunius
02:58 <Ballig> SMS Mekkis too
03:04 <Eidren> i have yet to sleep.
03:06 <Avatar> should I sms them now
03:12 <Ballig> do it
05:05 <Avatar> done
05:59 <Avatar> Eidren: if you decide you're going to nod off, it's up to you whether we play for you or you want the game to end
06:36 <Eidren> i think i can manage.
06:40 <Avatar> cool
06:54 <Eidren> i wont be the first one to die.
06:59 <Eidren> i will hang in here till someone does.
07:01 <Eidren> hahahaha
07:11 <Avatar> okay should be interesting
07:40 <Avatar> brunius is coming
07:43 <Avatar> nothing from mekkis yet
08:08 <Ballig> might have to actually call him
08:25 Brunius ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
08:41 <Avatar> finally !
08:55 <Avatar> oh what is your faction mission guys
08:57 <Avatar> if you want to spill it
09:06 <Brunius> Like I'd tell you.
09:14 <Avatar> yeah you don't have to
09:20 <Avatar> but...VALKUR might want to tell us
09:32 <Eidren> im going to assasinate the main guy.
09:32 <Avatar> Valkur the andoran
09:39 <Eidren> asmodeus wants him dead,
09:39 <Avatar> who, Skelg
09:42 <Eidren> yes
09:47 <Brunius> What.
09:51 <Eidren> his whispers reach out to me...
09:58 <Eidren> in my sleep
10:01 <Avatar> maybe you should have went oracle
10:07 <Brunius> I hear PvP incoming
10:09 <Eidren> and be cursed?
10:09 <Ballig> er
10:10 <Avatar> taken one of the possessed curses
10:11 <Eidren> lol
10:16 <Ballig> are you sure your faction mission is to kill skelg
10:21 <Ballig> becaues that seems counter to our overall mission
10:39 <Eidren> hahaha did i say i was telling the truth?
10:40 <Avatar> I'm sure he was joking
10:44 <Avatar> judging by Brunius' reaction
10:53 <Ballig> do you have to say you're telling the truth every itme you say something? :p
11:01 <Eidren> no
11:03 <Avatar> a loaded question
11:04 <Brunius> Guys! I'm the PM.
11:14 <Ballig> you're julia?
11:15 <Eidren> priminister?
11:16 <Brunius> And the president of the US
11:21 <Eidren> excellent
11:21 <Brunius> And the PM of the UK
11:23 <Eidren> die in a fire.
11:38 <Eidren> fall in a pit.
11:39 <Ballig> what's with you and fires today
12:07 <Brunius> Who are we waiting for?
12:08 <Eidren> ok fall in a pit.
12:10 <Ballig> mekkis
13:06 <Avatar> Brunius: Eidren's character actually fell to -3hp last night
13:14 <Ballig> -2
13:21 <Avatar> he was on 2hp and took 5 damage
13:25 <Ballig> oh yeah
13:25 <Avatar> what's 2-5
13:26 <Ballig> -3
13:28 <Eidren> my next feat will be die hard.
13:29 <Ballig> shut up
13:34 <Avatar> do you have endurance
13:41 <Ballig> you realise that if you cast a spell while in negative hp you still lose hp right?
13:47 <Eidren> i will have that too
13:54 <Eidren> yes.
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14:47 <Ballig> sup compact
14:52 <compact> y0, how are you
14:56 <Eidren> welcome.
14:58 <Eidren> die in a fire?
15:09 <Brunius> That's not very nice, Eidren
15:15 <Eidren> fall in a pit then?
15:20 <Eidren> roadkill?
15:22 <Eidren> >_<
15:22 <Ballig> why not a pit of fire?
15:23 <Ballig> :p
15:25 <Eidren> asmodeus.
15:45 <Eidren> i should have been an oracle lol
15:55 <Eidren> i can spout gibberish all i want
16:04 <Brunius> Heh
17:34 <Ballig> might need to call mekkis, maybe he's asleep
17:36 <Eidren> my body gets wracked with pain everytime i sneeze
18:45 <Brunius> Not answering his phone, or I can't get to it.
19:31 <Brunius> Uh, what about daylight savings?
19:37 <Brunius> It's only 9:20 in QLD
20:21 <Ballig> yeah he said 10am our time
20:22 <Ballig> 9am his
20:26 <Brunius> Hmmm
20:35 <Brunius> Well, get Avatar to text me if he comes in.
20:40 <Brunius> I'll be back 11am otherwise
20:49 <Ballig> you'd better not delay us *shakes fist*
30:52 <Avatar> has anyone called him yet
31:11 <Brunius> I tried
31:18 <Brunius> His phone is off or out or range
33:04 <Avatar> yep confirming that
34:04 <Brunius> Which classes are in Ultimate Combat?
34:42 <Ballig> gunslinger
34:58 <Avatar> samurai and ninja
35:06 <Avatar> ninja is worth a look
35:10 <Ballig> why isn't samurai
35:12 <Avatar> samurai is a cavalier/something
36:05 <Ballig> what's wrong with cavaliers
36:37 <Eidren> im going to sleep 
36:42 <Eidren> nothing is happening.
36:44 <Brunius> :(
36:51 <Avatar> don't go eidren
37:08 <Eidren> why not?
37:08 <Ballig> dude
37:12 <Ballig> he's not THAT late yet
37:23 <Ballig> if you leave, you will be the reason we don't get to play
37:25 <Brunius> You know as soon as Eidren leaves, Mekkis will show up?
37:29 <Ballig> yeah pretty much
37:51 <Avatar> Eidren: how long did you plan on playing
38:02 <Mekkis> .
38:09 <Mekkis> sorey about that
38:14 <Avatar> good 1
38:17 <Brunius> Wilkommen
38:17 <Avatar> are we good to go
38:24 <Eidren> welcome mekkis.
38:34 <Mekkis> more or less
38:35 <Ballig> see how close that was
38:56 Ballig gives voice to Brunius Eidren Avatar
38:56 * Ballig removes channel operator status from Avatar
39:10 <Ballig> #d&d Can't deop Ballig as they're protected (+a)
39:15 <canine> ah there he is
39:18 Avatar is now known as Buck
39:19 Brunius is now known as Derau
39:29 Ballig is now known as Samsuhn
39:30 <Buck> Derau: Valkur is on -2
39:33 <Mekkis> canine, are you playing?
39:34 <Buck> that's where we ended the game
39:35 Eidren is now known as Valkur
39:42 <canine> yep, if there's room
39:45 <Mekkis> sure
40:03 <Mekkis> I'm just booting up my machines, how about you ask the others what your assignment is
40:18 <canine> Avatar sent me the log
40:22 <canine> I'll look over it real quick
40:28 <canine> i need my mission though
41:04 <Valkur> addy?
41:39 canine is now known as Riose
41:54 <Valkur> addy?
41:57 <Valkur> >.<
42:18 <Derau> Everyone's colours/HPs?
42:49 <Buck> I'm brown, 22/22
43:09 * Riose calls vermillion
43:19 <Samsuhn> purple, 7/7
43:21 <Samsuhn> :'(
43:24 <Valkur> blue s -2/10
43:31 Samsuhn gives voice to Riose
43:46 <Valkur> address for ca?
43:50 <Riose> make that green though. probably slightly easier
43:51 <Samsuhn> it's not open yet
43:54 <Riose> and how can you have 7/7 hp?
43:55 <Samsuhn> but it's diebot.ti4200.info
43:56 <Valkur> do type it in. thank you.
44:01 <Samsuhn> why can't I have 7/7 hp
44:36 <Riose> do you have a feat that gives you an extra hp or something?
44:43 <Samsuhn> nope
44:50 <Derau> How much do you have Riose?
45:00 <Riose> 8/8
45:10 <Samsuhn> I could have a +1 constitution, but I don't
45:15 <Samsuhn> I've just taken +1 hp from favoured class
45:19 <Samsuhn> Riose: can you get on skype?
45:27 <Riose> ah ok
45:36 <Riose> yep, 1 sec
46:21 <Derau> Valkur, what is that?
46:28 <Valkur> bgm
46:35 <Derau> background music
46:52 <Valkur> to lul me to sleep
46:56 <Valkur> lull*
47:14 <Valkur> im -2 hp
47:16 <Valkur> wtf?
47:22 <Valkur> i will sleep when i want to damn it
47:23 <Samsuhn> -3
47:57 <Valkur> im in a tavern
48:34 <Valkur> lol
48:44 <Valkur> are we playing then?
48:54 <Buck> derau are you going to cure valkur
49:03 <Derau> Are we out of combat?
49:07 <Valkur> no he will let me die so i can sleep.
49:15 <Buck> yeah we're out of combat
49:16 <Valkur> enter riose
49:19 <Valkur> the replacement.
49:24 <Buck> the two guys are stablised
49:41 <Derau> I'll heal everyone that needs it then
49:41 <Mekkis> so you're outside the manor, and Valkur's on the floor
49:54 <Valkur> CARRY ME
50:00 <Mekkis> you have an unconsious, but stable guard with you
50:10 <Buck> Derau: roll your heal man
50:13 * Valkur slits his throat
50:16 <Samsuhn> I will tie him up
50:17 <Samsuhn> with my silk rope
50:19 <Mekkis> and Riose comes in. What does he look like?
50:21 <Buck> no wait
50:23 <Buck> I will use my hemp rope
50:28 <Samsuhn> he's half naked
50:30 <Buck> less comfortable
50:36 <Derau> !throw 1d8+2 Heal
50:37 <diebot> Derau, Heal: [1d8=2] 4
50:38 <Samsuhn> but silk rope is harder for him to break !
50:46 <Buck> ok he can use his silk
50:51 <Buck> but I will be less satisfied 
50:57 <Mekkis> Valkur wakes up
51:07 <Buck> on 1hp
51:16 <Valkur> "wakes up shouting die die die!!!"
51:21 <Samsuhn> are you saying that
51:24 <Samsuhn> that's a bit weird for you to be saying
51:32 <Derau> Remember the /me command?
51:53 * Valkur wakes up shouting die die die!!!
51:56 <Valkur> there.
52:03 <Buck> why are you suggesting /me
52:04 <Samsuhn> I'll take the weapon from the guard
52:07 <Samsuhn> and check him for any items of interest
52:11 <Buck> you don't use actions when talking, just quotes for that
52:14 <Derau> Because he keeps saying his actions
52:14 <Buck> but are you actually saying that
52:24 <Buck> is your character saying it
52:26 <Buck> or are you saying it
52:48 <Valkur> ~_~
52:56 <Mekkis> Riose, what does your character look like?
53:04 <Valkur> lol
53:15 <Buck> we'll just pretend it was you and not your character
54:52 <Riose> Skinny, blonde, short hair, wide brimmed hat
54:56 <Valkur> is my hp topped up?
54:57 <Samsuhn> race?
55:00 <Riose> human
55:02 <Valkur> or am i stuck at 1hp
55:41 <Mekkis> ok
55:41 <Samsuhn> "What are you doing here?"
55:44 <Samsuhn> I say to Riose
55:49 <Derau> Did anyone keep track of how many spells I have?
55:56 <Buck> you didn't cast any more from last night
56:01 <Derau> Ok
56:10 <Samsuhn> but we assumed you had stabilize prepared
56:11 <Derau> So I have all of them left, minus the one heal?
56:13 <Mekkis> we assumed that you cast Stabilise a few times
56:14 <Samsuhn> right
56:16 <Buck> yep
56:24 <Mekkis> Derau, you know that you can channel, right?
56:28 <Derau> Yes
56:41 <Derau> But everyone except Valkur seems to be on full HP
57:01 <Riose> "I overslept and had to follow you."
57:10 <Samsuhn> "What? We're on official Pathfinder Society business."
57:12 <Samsuhn> "You shouldn't be here."
57:25 <Derau> Alright I use Buck's CLW on Valkur
57:35 <Valkur> use it on me.
57:49 <Derau> !throw 1d8+1 Heal
57:49 <diebot> Derau, Heal: [1d8=3] 4
57:52 <Buck> "I think differently."
57:55 <Valkur> can you not take 20 to maximize the effect?
57:58 <Buck> "You seem trustworthy. Won't you join us?"
58:13 <Valkur> "bah another mouth to feed"
58:36 <Derau> Derau was in CoS too
58:36 <Buck> "Oh wait, I remember you. Yes, you'll join us."
58:44 * Derau glares at Riose
58:47 <Samsuhn> "Oh, this man is in the Society?"
58:52 <Samsuhn> "They must have sent us reinforcements."
58:52 <Riose> "Smiles at Derau"
59:12 <Derau> Maybe.
59:12 <Riose> "I will gladly join your efforts"
59:24 <Valkur> "queer and creepy"
59:36 <Riose> "Not so much 'sent' as 'followed you here'."
59:55 <Valkur> blast him to bits and take his stuff?
00:22 <Valkur> i remember my mission.
00:46 <Derau> Could I have the faction mission for Andoran again?
01:05 <Buck> is that why you didn't want to tell us earlier
01:06 <Riose> 37839
01:08 <Buck> because you DIDN'T KNOW.
01:14 <Derau> No.
01:19 <Derau> I vaguely remember
01:28 <Derau> Man
01:35 <Mekkis> you find: two greataxes, two chain shirts, and a key
01:37 <Buck> seems shifty
01:42 <Samsuhn> i take the key
01:50 <Derau> Over 15000 new PFSers since Avatar and I signed up.
01:55 <Valkur> that's all they had on them????
01:59 <Samsuhn> and me !
02:00 <Valkur> how do they eat?
02:03 <Valkur> or buy stuff?
02:04 <Samsuhn> I'm only 5 behind you Brunius :p
02:04 <Buck> they probably have a horse somewhere
02:12 <Derau> 6
02:19 <Derau> You're 5 behind Avatar
02:20 <Riose> we should probably kill it
02:24 <Valkur> omg you don't carry money...
02:53 <Valkur> oh thank the gods
02:55 <Valkur> let's go in
03:07 <Derau> Just go in, I reckon.
03:10 <Valkur> yes get info
03:12 <Valkur> and kill him
03:14 <Valkur> no loose ends.
03:17 <Buck> enough of this
03:19 <Buck> I take out my gun
03:22 <Buck> point it at his face
03:26 <Valkur> YES
03:26 <Buck> "Tell us what you know"
03:27 <Valkur> GO
03:32 <Mekkis> he's silent
03:53 <Buck> we go inside
04:02 <Mekkis> the door's locked
04:13 <Valkur> this will be fun...
04:28 * Valkur splash water on him
04:29 <Derau> Buck, how many charges are on your wand?
04:37 <Buck> 50 charges
04:38 <Valkur> fine
04:50 <Valkur> i use my finger nails to slit his throat..
04:53 <Valkur> can i use my teeth?
04:54 <Derau> 49 now !
04:55 <Valkur> lol
05:00 <Buck> no that's for me
05:20 <Valkur> i will drag him somewhere no one can see and use a VERY dull knife
05:22 <Valkur> to kill him
05:24 <Derau> He's on 5
05:32 <Derau> :P
06:00 <Derau> Alright I channel
06:32 <Buck> roll it
06:55 <Derau> !throw 1d6 Channel
06:55 <diebot> Derau, Channel: [1d6=5] 5
07:01 <Samsuhn> "Who is your daddy and what does he do?"
07:02 <Mekkis> the guard wakes up
07:18 <Valkur> i want to torture him
07:18 <Mekkis> and starts swearing in Irrisen
07:21 <Buck> "I'm DETECTIVE JOHN KIMBLE!"
07:25 <Buck> I point the gun at him
07:35 <Valkur> i will cut off your fingers one by one if you do not answer our questions..
07:37 <Mekkis> "HELP! Get this madman off me!"
07:48 <Samsuhn> "Tell us what you're doing here."
07:51 <Samsuhn> "You aren't Skelg's guards."
07:56 <Mekkis> "Guarding this place"
08:00 <Mekkis> "For Skelg"
08:01 <Valkur> "ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS OR DIE A SLOW AGONIZING DEATH"
08:06 <Samsuhn> "No, you aren't."
08:10 <Valkur> "you tried to kill me"
08:14 * Buck glares at the man
08:21 <Mekkis> "You tried to kill us!"
08:23 <Derau> Han shot first!
08:32 <Mekkis> "You killed my colleague!"
08:32 <Valkur> "YOU HAD IT COMING YOU ASS"
08:34 <Samsuhn> "You're imposters."
08:40 <Samsuhn> "Tell us who you're working for."
08:46 <Mekkis> "I'm not an imposter. Or a donkey."
08:48 <Valkur> "i am beyond caring"
09:03 <Valkur> "you will be if i want you to be"
09:08 <Valkur> "if you value your life"
09:15 <Mekkis> "You are beyond the limits of my property"
09:25 <Buck> "Why are you wearing your surcoats backwards?"
09:33 <Buck> "The truth."
09:34 <Mekkis> "Leave now, trespassers"
09:35 <Valkur> "YOUR??? PROPERTY???"
09:39 canine ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
09:45 <Samsuhn> "You aren't in a position to demand anything."
09:56 <Samsuhn> "And this is Skelg's property, and you are an imposter."
10:10 Riose has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
10:11 <Samsuhn> "We are here at Skelg's bequest."
10:16 Samsuhn gives voice to canine
10:23 canine is now known as Riose
10:23 * Valkur stabs the guard's leg slowly and deliberately
10:24 <Mekkis> "Need I remind you that we are in Absalom, not some random dungeon in the middle of Osirion. There is rule of law here..."
10:32 <Valkur> "does that feel good?"
10:36 <Mekkis> what weapon are you using, Valkur?
10:40 <Valkur> "will you answer?"
10:47 <Derau> Clickety clickety click
10:50 <Samsuhn> "Yes. And the owner of this property asked us to attend him. You refused to allow that, you are the one breaking the laws of Absalom."
11:00 <Valkur> a cross bow bolt.
11:14 <Mekkis> roll the damage firs
11:14 <Mekkis> t
11:24 <Valkur> no need to
11:29 <Valkur> it's slow and deliberate
11:30 <Mekkis> yes there is
11:34 <Mekkis> you've stabbed him
11:34 <Valkur> assume it's a 1
11:36 <Mekkis> no
12:17 <Valkur> !throw 1d2
12:17 <diebot> Valkur, 1d2: [1d2=2] 2
12:38 <Valkur> !throw 1d4
12:38 <diebot> Valkur, 1d4: [1d4=3] 3
12:47 <Valkur> this is beyond logic.
12:49 <Valkur> even reality
13:31 <Mekkis> he's not looking good, but he says, "It's fine."
13:44 <Valkur> the intent
13:49 <Valkur> is clearly to cause pain.
14:29 <Mekkis> he's pretty inured to that. The northern lands are tough
14:45 <Valkur> a punch is fine.
15:19 * Valkur stabs him with the crossbow bolt in the neck
15:32 <Valkur> !throw 1d4
15:32 <diebot> Valkur, 1d4: [1d4=4] 4
15:33 <Mekkis> he dies
15:36 <Derau> Dude, that's pretty much gonna kill hiom
15:38 <Valkur> repeatedly
15:40 <Derau> -o
15:41 <Valkur> if i must
15:47 <Derau> Man.
15:49 <Buck> "What's the matter with you?"
15:55 <Mekkis> Valkur has a bunch of blood over him
15:56 <Valkur> he did try to kill me
16:00 <Samsuhn> "I think we need to hide these bodies for now."
16:16 <Buck> "We were trying to interrogate him, not kill him."
16:18 <Buck> "Honestly!"
16:23 <Buck> I head inside
16:36 <Buck> we hide the bodies
16:45 <Samsuhn> I'll unlock the front door
16:45 <Mekkis> you toss the bodies in a nearby bush
16:46 <Valkur> "he's dead get over it, move on to the next room i say"
16:49 <Samsuhn> and stand back
16:54 <Mekkis> Valkur still has blood over him
17:01 <Mekkis> Samsuhn unlocks the door
17:12 * Valkur uses my waterskin to wash it off
17:44 <Mekkis> sure
17:49 <Mekkis> he's more or less clearer
18:02 <Buck> now he looks less like a psychopath
18:04 <Mekkis> it's not clear whether the blood is his or his victim's
18:04 <Valkur> next room plez
18:05 <Samsuhn> ha
18:26 <Valkur> ca still not up?
18:34 <Samsuhn> we go up to him and are like "Sup?"
18:41 <Buck> @see
18:42 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=9] 17
18:44 <Samsuhn> @per
18:44 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=5] 8
18:49 <Mekkis> You open the door to the master bedroom and are greeted
18:49 <Mekkis> by a blast of heat. A roaring fire blazes in the fireplace even
18:49 <Mekkis> though the day is swelteringly hot. A huge bearded man
18:49 <Mekkis> shivers under his blankets, his bed pushed dangerously close
18:49 <Mekkis> to the fire. A thin servant sits in the far corner by a window,
18:49 <Mekkis> fanning himself with a handkerchief. The bearded man looks
18:49 <Mekkis> at you and blinks a few times, then speaks through chattering
18:49 <Mekkis> teeth. “Are y-you P-path-f-finders?”
19:08 <Valkur> "yes we are"
19:13 <Buck> "We're here to help."
19:13 <Derau> "Yes. We were sent to help"
19:14 <Valkur> "skelg i presume?"
19:43 <Derau> I'm Luke Skywalker, I'm here to rescue you.
19:56 <Valkur> "are you DEAF????"
20:06 <Mekkis> "Yyes... I am Skellg"
20:06 <Samsuhn> don't be inflammatory :p
20:07 <Valkur> "i said yes we are the pathfinders"
20:08 <Derau> Give him more than 40 seconds, Valkur
20:42 <Samsuhn> the GM's delay is not necessarily the NPC's
20:45 <Riose> "What can we do to help?"
20:46 <Mekkis> "It's so c-cold inside"
20:57 <Samsuhn> "I think we should move your bed a little away from that fire."
21:02 <Valkur> "we were informed something is causing this to you?"
21:11 <Valkur> "are you aware at all what is doing this?"
21:13 <Mekkis> his servant introduces himself
21:39 <Mekkis> "I am Tyros. I smuggled out the letter to Adril"
21:48 * Buck glares at the fire
21:49 <Samsuhn> "Smuggled?"
21:52 <Samsuhn> "Why did it require smuggling?"
22:07 <Valkur> "what were those two guards on?"
22:09 <Mekkis> "We were assaulted by Bengeirr, and they held us under house arrest"
22:17 <Derau> Bengeirr?
22:18 <Riose> "Who is Bengeirr?"
22:19 <Samsuhn> "Ah, so that's who those guards were working for."
22:21 <Mekkis> "Preventing people entering or leaving"
22:26 <Valkur> "we've disposed of them"
22:29 <Buck> "They won't bother you any more."
22:30 <Samsuhn> "Were there only two of them?"
22:37 <Riose> "And why does he care about Skelg?"
23:08 <Mekkis> "There were many. Skelg heard some noises from the basement last week, and went to investigate.
23:21 <Samsuhn> "So they've infiltrated the manor from the basement?"
23:23 <Samsuhn> "There must be more."
23:38 <Derau> "Well, lets go then..."
23:39 <Buck> "We may need to move Skelg."
23:42 * Valkur casts resistance
23:54 <Buck> "This place isn't safe."
23:55 * Valkur prepares mage armor should anything happen.
24:17 <Samsuhn> "Can Skelg be moved?"
24:25 <Mekkis> "Several of them were looting the basement vault, and when he charged in with his greataxe, one of them shined a lantern at him. He suddenly became very cold."
24:25 <Samsuhn> "It might be prudent to take him back to the Lodge."
24:39 <Samsuhn> "Ah, so the lantern has caused his illness."
24:42 <Mekkis> "No. Skelg needs all the warmth he can get"
25:21 <Valkur> "daggers are dangerous you know"
25:38 <Valkur> "it's really sharp, you could get hurt..."
26:06 <Samsuhn> @per
26:06 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=3] 6
26:07 <Valkur> "im talking to myself because i am crazy"
26:07 <Buck> @see
26:07 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=17] 25
26:18 <Valkur> !throw 1d20
26:18 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20: [1d20=4] 4
26:21 <Valkur> lol
26:21 <Riose> @per
26:37 <Valkur> take 20
26:59 <Riose> !throw 1d20+4 perception
26:59 <diebot> Riose, perception: [1d20=10] 14
27:23 <Riose> is Skelg capable of talking?
27:26 <Samsuhn> "All right, I think I have an idea."
27:34 <Mekkis> Buck and Riose see a shelf with maps and journals on it
27:40 * Valkur actively searches the room for anything that may help
27:47 <Buck> I have a closer look at the maps and journals
27:49 <Valkur> take 20 perception
27:52 <Buck> while the others are talking
28:42 * Riose picks up the maps and journals
28:58 <Samsuhn> "How big is the basement vault?"
29:05 <Mekkis> "Rather small..."
29:12 <Samsuhn> "Are they likely to still be there?"
29:24 * Riose looks through the maps and journals to figure out their subject
29:25 <Buck> anything special about the shelf with maps/journals
29:28 <Buck> after having a closer look?
29:39 <Mekkis> "We noticed that one of the tapestries had changed its picture. We think it was in the path of the light."
29:43 <Mekkis> Buck, not really.
29:58 <Derau> Mekkis, could I have my faction mission again?
30:00 <Mekkis> they're of his journeys and exploits
30:03 <Samsuhn> "It changed AFTER the light hit it?"
30:11 <Derau> I'm on a different computer
30:18 * Riose puts them in his bag
30:24 <Derau> Cheers
31:31 <Derau> Can I attempt an untrained heal check on Skelg to see if it's a known disease?
31:38 <Valkur> it's not
31:42 <Buck> I do too
31:43 <Valkur> let's move on
31:49 <Derau> No skill points, man
31:51 <Buck> seperate checks
31:56 <Valkur> it's obviously caused by an artifact.
32:04 <Valkur> what makes you think it will be a common disease?
32:14 <Valkur> ~_~
32:18 <Buck> !throw 1d20+3 heal
32:18 <diebot> Buck, heal: [1d20=17] 20
32:23 <Riose> Maybe someone just forgot to clean it after using it last time.
32:29 <Derau> !throw 1d20 heal
32:30 <diebot> Derau, heal: [1d20=10] 10
32:32 <Mekkis> "Bengeirr was one of Skelg's rivals. He later appeared, when Skelg was ill, and killed the guards. He then game in here and yelled at Skelg: "Now you'll die in bed like an old man"
32:50 <Mekkis> You can't tell what it is
33:14 <Valkur> someone check if this was caused by divine magic or arcane
33:14 <Samsuhn> "Interesting."
33:22 <Samsuhn> "All right, we should check out the basement vault."
33:23 <Riose> "And as his servants, why did you allow a known rival into your master's house?"
33:23 <Derau> "I think we're done here"
33:27 <Samsuhn> "This tapestry might tell us sometihng."
33:27 * Valkur casts detect magic
33:35 <Buck> you can probably roll knowledge religion/arcana to tell that
33:36 <Mekkis> "In the tapestry, it seems that there some form of portal there. We sent some men to check, but they didn't return."
33:47 <Derau> !throw 1d20+1 Knowledge (Religion)
33:47 <diebot> Derau, Knowledge (Religion): [1d20=10] 11
33:50 <Samsuhn> "Okay."
33:52 <Mekkis> Valkur, you detect some overwelming conjuration
34:01 <Valkur> where?
34:06 <Mekkis> in skelg
34:21 <Buck> "How comfortable do you lot feel walking into a tapestry portal that nobody comes out of?"
34:27 <Valkur> can i gut him and open him up to see what it is?
34:35 <Mekkis> "After an hour, the portal closed"
34:43 <Samsuhn> "The portal is not there now?"
34:49 * Riose suggests that we tie a rope around a servant and push him through the portal while holding onto the rope from this side
35:09 <Samsuhn> "You don't have the lantern?"
35:13 <Valkur> "sigh.. must i do everything"
35:18 <Mekkis> "No, they took it with them."
35:20 * Valkur goes through the tapestry
35:32 <Valkur> LOL
35:35 <Valkur> ok nvm
35:58 <Samsuhn> "We'll investigate."
36:09 <Valkur> "let's go down the basement"
36:20 <Samsuhn> we'll go down into the basement, Buck will lead
36:26 <Mekkis> Tyros offers to lead you to the basement
36:33 <Samsuhn> or Tyros can lead
36:33 <Buck> excellent
36:35 <Valkur> yes buck lead
36:36 <Buck> we take his offer
36:38 <Valkur> you have the most hp
36:54 <Valkur> the servant anyway
36:56 <Riose> I want to do a sense motive check against Tyros to make sure he's not lying to us or plotting against us.
37:18 <Mekkis> Riose, roll it, secretly
37:28 <Riose> !throw 1d20+5 @Mekkis
37:29 <Mekkis> (!throw 1d20+mod sense motive @Mekkis
37:35 <Valkur> intimidate the servant
37:42 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
37:45 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+4
37:45 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+4: [1d20=16] 20
37:50 <Derau> Why not?
38:07 <Mekkis> you think that he's sincere
38:15 <Buck> excellent
38:33 <Valkur> "you there! why are you being so helpfull? you better not be planning anything or you will die like those two guards"
38:40 <Buck> I lead with my gun regardless, but don't expect to be surprised by Tyros
38:56 <Buck> "He's fine."
39:00 <Valkur> you do not get to tell me what to do sir.
39:02 <Buck> "Please ignore our friend."
39:05 <Valkur> =)
39:14 <Valkur> "yes ignore me"
39:20 <Derau> "He's a little....odd"
39:25 <Samsuhn> are we in the basement now
39:25 <Mekkis> he points out some remaining relics
39:33 <Samsuhn> what are they
39:36 <Mekkis> and points at the tapestry
39:39 <Valkur> "what relics???"
39:43 <Samsuhn> I'll inspect the tapestry
39:45 <Samsuhn> and use knowledge arcana if that'll help
39:51 <Riose> "Was anything taken?"
39:53 <Valkur> i have detect magic on
39:55 <Samsuhn> and/or spellcraft
39:58 <Valkur> are they magical?
40:02 <Mekkis> some treasures from the north, axes, swords, models of boats
40:06 <Mekkis> that sort of thing
40:08 <Mekkis> nothing magical
40:19 <Derau> I smash one of the boats.
40:20 <Valkur> anything jeweled?
40:20 <Buck> I use knowledg engineering to determine anything odd about the room
40:34 <Buck> !throw 1d20+5 knowledge engineering
40:35 <diebot> Buck, knowledge engineering: [1d20=17] 22
40:42 <Mekkis> "This tapestry used to show a meadow with shepherd and flock"
40:45 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 knowledge arcana
40:45 <diebot> Samsuhn, knowledge arcana: [1d20=9] 18
40:51 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 spellcraft
40:52 <diebot> Samsuhn, spellcraft: [1d20=7] 16
40:56 <Samsuhn> (+2 for magic items)
41:01 <Mekkis> It now depicts an Ulfen longship, mostly encased in ice
41:14 <Mekkis> nothing magical, arcane and the engineering of this room is fine
41:18 <Riose> I touch the tapestry
41:27 <Derau> I can prepare it.
41:30 <Mekkis> Riose, perception please
41:41 <Riose> !throw 1d20+4 @Mekkis
41:42 <Valkur> we should push the servant through
41:58 <Mekkis> the portal isn't open
42:03 <Mekkis> you feel the tapestry
42:04 <Valkur> LOL
42:06 <Buck> is there a rock or something 
42:08 <Buck> we can throw at it
42:15 <Derau> Endure elements is 24 hours
42:22 <Riose> Does it feel like anything other than a tapestry?
42:26 <Mekkis> nope
42:30 <Mekkis> it feels like a tapestry
42:32 <Derau> For 5 people I'd have to expend my whole spell list
42:32 <Samsuhn> "Where did the men go after they shined the light?"
42:35 <Samsuhn> "Did they go through the tapestry?
42:36 <Samsuhn> "
42:47 <Mekkis> "no, they left"
42:51 <Riose> "Tyros, what is the threadcount per square cm on this tapestry?"
43:03 <Buck> we examine it
43:04 <Derau> I search the room
43:04 <Buck> @see
43:05 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=20] 28
43:10 <Derau> @see
43:11 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=5] 11
43:28 <Valkur> LOL @threadcount... OMG
43:50 <Mekkis> Buck notices that there's a bracket for a large lantern hanging from the mouth of the dragon figurehead, but no lantern hangs there now.
44:01 <Valkur> i still have detect magic
44:05 <Buck> "Does anyone have a lantern?"
44:06 <Valkur> is the tapestry magical at all?
44:15 <Buck> I motion to the bracket
44:18 <Riose> I have a torch. We could burn the tapestry maybe
44:20 <Mekkis> (the picture in the tapestry)
44:47 <Derau> I search the room for a lantern, then again for secret doors
44:52 <Riose> me too.
45:07 <Mekkis> "Skelg recognised this ship as the funerary ship of his enemy, Haldyr)
45:17 <Mekkis> no lanterns, no secret doors
45:22 <Samsuhn> "Where is that ship?"
45:24 * Valkur torches the tapestry
45:29 <Valkur> does it burn?
45:33 * Derau stops Valkur
45:42 <Derau> "Don't"
45:54 <Valkur> "why not?"
46:07 <Derau> "It might be important"
46:23 <Valkur> "someone suggested it"
46:31 <Riose> "Did not."
46:43 <Valkur> the guilty party often makes the first move.
46:50 <Derau> "Besides, we don't want to annoy this guy. Skelg, I mean"
47:02 <Riose> "Skelg, where did you get this tapestry?"
47:03 <Valkur> "my my i did not even mention a name"
47:12 <Valkur> "asmodeus whispers"
47:35 <Mekkis> "No idea. Probably to the north. You'll need to ask Skelg for more information"
47:42 <Samsuhn> we'll do that
47:45 <Samsuhn> we're asking skelg about the boat
47:52 <Mekkis> you return to his room
47:54 <Buck> we do that immediately, wasting no more time in here
47:59 <Riose> And the tapestry. I want to know where he actually got it.
48:07 <Valkur> "words words words"
48:31 <Valkur> "DO you have any idea how we can catch up to them???"
48:42 <Derau> brb
48:43 <Valkur> "anything at all?"
49:02 <Valkur> oh sorry lol
50:14 <Mekkis> "Abou-tt twel-ve years ago, I r-raided Hald-dyr's ship, a-and l-loot-ted it. H-his wife, Nat-talya w-was g-going to be s-sacrificed, s-so I l-let h-her s-sail it w-where sshee w-wished."
50:36 <Buck> "Natalya, who's Natalya?"
50:40 <Valkur> ~_~
50:51 <Valkur> haldyrs wife...
50:59 <Mekkis> "Hald-dyr's wife"
51:03 <Valkur> "haldyr's wife"
51:06 <Valkur> LOL
51:07 <Samsuhn> "Where did she sail it?"
51:17 <Mekkis> "I don't know"
51:24 <Valkur> "HAHAHAHAHA"
51:25 <Samsuhn> "Was that the last time you saw it, save in the tapestry?"
51:32 <Mekkis> "Y-yes"
51:44 <Samsuhn> "Did it have a lantern hanging from the figurehead?"
52:13 <Mekkis> "We t-took it"
52:29 <Samsuhn> "The lantern was in your basement vault?"
52:30 <Valkur> "what does that stupid lantern do?"
52:41 <Valkur> "do you have any idea??? at all?"
52:50 <Mekkis> "no..."
53:01 <Mekkis> "It m-made me c-cold"
53:07 <Valkur> "it's a lantern, i'm assuming you'd steal it because of some really good reason"
53:23 <Buck> "Not the kind of treasure worth looting."
53:24 <Samsuhn> "So you stole the lantern and it was in your basement vault and was stolen with other relics?"
53:24 <Valkur> "unless you have the habit of stealing common house hold items"
53:48 <Mekkis> he tries to sound firmer, "W-we l-looted the s-ship. It w-was a spoil"
53:57 <Buck> sense motive
54:03 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
54:07 <Valkur> "need i remind you that we are trying to help you, a common lantern spoil???"
54:19 <Derau> Back
54:26 <Riose> "How is it that you can specifically remember taking a simple lantern from a raid 12 years ago?"
54:53 <Samsuhn> "What other magic artifacts were in the basement vault?"
55:16 <Derau> lol echoes
56:21 <Valkur> "so it sat there for 12 years and in comes your rival and uses this supposedly magical lantern to make you cold?"
56:51 <Derau> I consult his servant
57:04 <Derau> "Do you know where we might find Bendeeir"?
57:10 <Derau> (That was the rival's name, right?")
57:12 <Buck> Bengeirr
58:06 <Mekkis> "We're not sure... There aren't many Ulfin visitors in Absalom though..."
58:36 <Riose> "Think harder. Your master's life is at stake!"
58:37 <Mekkis> "Mainly treasures.. Jewels, Gold, that sort of thing"
58:46 <Samsuhn> "okay"
59:03 <Samsuhn> we'll go use diplomacy (gather information) to find out about recent Ulfin visitors
59:12 <Mekkis> sure
59:13 <Samsuhn> and I guess... *sigh*... Valkur can be the main diplomacy roll
59:26 <Mekkis> this could be interesting
59:31 * Valkur leaves the manor to rest whilst the others gather information.
59:33 <Mekkis> well, you lave the manor, and roll it
59:47 <Valkur> i will rest.
59:51 <Valkur> while they do this
00:15 <Derau> While the rest of us have like -1
00:19 <Valkur> i did not take
00:24 <Valkur> take 20 you are in the city
00:30 <Derau> Yep
00:35 <Riose> "Tyros, has Skelg's condition changed at all since he originally became sick?"
01:17 <Mekkis> "He's been getting worse"
01:33 <Valkur> !throw 1d20+4
01:33 <diebot> Valkur, 1d20+4: [1d20=6] 10
01:38 <Buck> !throw 1d20-1 diplomacy aid
01:38 <diebot> Buck, diplomacy aid: [1d20=20] 19
01:42 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2 diplomacy aid
01:42 <diebot> Samsuhn, diplomacy aid: [1d20=16] 18
01:55 <Riose> !throw 1d20+2 diplomacy
01:56 <diebot> Riose, diplomacy: [1d20=20] 22
02:01 <Valkur> are you sure we can't take 20 for this?
02:03 <Derau> !throw 1d20-1 diplo
02:03 <diebot> Derau, diplo: [1d20=9] 8
02:12 <Valkur> we have nothing else to do.
02:13 <Buck> we can't take 20 for anything in this scenario really
02:17 <Buck> Skelg might die
02:19 <Valkur> HA
02:21 <Valkur> hahaha
02:34 <Valkur> you do realize
02:41 <Valkur> that taking 20
02:44 <Valkur> only takes 1 hour
02:55 <Valkur> lol
02:58 <Mekkis> You learn that the harbormaster probably keeps records of the nationality of each ship that's docked recently
03:12 <Valkur> there you go.
03:13 <Buck> we go find him/her
03:16 <Riose> "We should head over to the harbor."
03:39 <Buck> I pat Dobs
03:56 <Valkur> asking people takes 1 hour?
03:59 <Buck> and I buy the vial
03:59 <Mekkis> you go to the harbour
04:00 <Valkur> there's 5 of us.
04:02 <Mekkis> ok
04:06 <Riose> asking enough people til you find someone with information, yes
04:25 <Valkur> with 5 people
04:29 <Valkur> it doesnt get lower?
04:36 <Riose> each person is making their rolls
05:00 <Riose> so they're doing the diplomacy checks on their own.
05:08 <Riose> not being helped by others
05:09 <Valkur> ok so we are going to the harbor
05:12 <Valkur> not what?
05:28 <Valkur> now*
05:30 <Samsuhn> we'll go speak to the harbourmaster !
05:30 <Mekkis> what are you doing?
05:40 <Samsuhn> do we find him
05:41 <Buck> we scope the place out
05:44 <Mekkis> you find him
05:57 <Samsuhn> "Hello good sir. We need to know if any Ulfin ships have arrived in Absalom lately."
06:34 <Mekkis> "Interesting... and why do you want this?"
07:02 <Mekkis> "It will take a long time for me to find this information... there's a lot of paperwork here..."
07:03 <Samsuhn> "The occupants have attacked a manor and held its owner hostage for days."
07:07 <Samsuhn> "We must investigate."
07:24 <Riose> "Whats your name, harbormaster?"
07:27 <Mekkis> "Unless.. you.. somehow ... provide funds to expedite this process..."
07:38 <Valkur> "YOU WILL DO THIS"
07:43 <Samsuhn> "Oh of course, of course."
07:43 <Mekkis> "Baltias"
07:45 <Samsuhn> "How much will you need?"
07:58 <Mekkis> he looks at you..
07:58 <Buck> "Settle, Valkur."
08:08 <Derau> Phones ringing.
08:11 <Mekkis> "Well... fourty would be good"
08:13 <Riose> going to try to convince him to be nice and help us for free
08:14 <Riose> !diplomacy 1d20+2
08:14 <Riose> !throw diplomacy 1d20+2
08:14 <Riose> !throw 1d20+2 diplomacy
08:14 <diebot> Riose, diplomacy: [1d20=13] 15
08:16 <Valkur> "this is official pathfinder business, are you trying to extort us??"
08:42 <Valkur> "someone's life is in danger and you are asking for money??"
08:48 <Mekkis> "'Official Pathfinder business'?"
09:13 <Riose> "Please help us on this. The Society would be greatly in your debt.
09:17 <Mekkis> "How do I know that you're not making this shit up?"
09:20 <Riose> That could be worth a lot more than 40 gold,"
09:41 <Mekkis> "I deal with the worst echelons of society. I'm not going to give you any favours for airy promises"
09:58 <Derau> Yep.
10:07 <Riose> "Not a promise, just a fact. We're here to help a personal friend of a rather high-ranking Society member."
10:14 <Buck> I'm in
10:15 <Buck> can't you hear me
10:17 <Valkur> i'd rather gut him now before i give in lol
10:20 <Riose> "He would certainly hear of your assistance to us"
10:22 <Valkur> fine i will
10:50 <Samsuhn> we each spend 8 gold and give the harbourmaster 40
11:01 <Samsuhn> "I hope this will expedite the process."
11:07 <Mekkis> he takes the gold and puts it in one of the desk drawers
12:50 <Buck> and then ?
13:00 <Mekkis> he looks at the papers on his desk, and picks up a file.
13:13 <Mekkis> he opens it
13:20 <Derau> brb
13:54 <Mekkis> "Several weeks ago, a man named Bengeirr Haldyrsson came and rented a warehouse from Tullo Baltias."
14:04 <Mekkis> "It was to be rented for a month."
14:47 <Derau> Haldyrsson = Haldyr's son
15:12 <Samsuhn> "Does he have a boat here?"
15:12 <Riose> "Do you know this Tullo Baltias?"
15:17 <Mekkis> (Haldyr Bjornsson was the man who's funerary ship was raided)
15:22 <Derau> This is my ringtone.
15:36 <Mekkis> "Yes. His office is two blocks down."
15:39 <Derau> No you didn't.
15:57 <Derau> Yeah, you don't care, which is exactly why you talked about it
15:58 <Riose> "Who is he? An official or a merchant of some kind?"
16:22 <Mekkis> "He controls some of the docks and warehouses in the Puddles"
17:22 <Riose> "We should go talk to Tullo."
17:32 <Derau> So Skelg raided Haldyr's father's boat?
17:35 <Derau> Motive!
18:02 <Mekkis> "Yes, he came in one. He may have dismantled it though..."
18:12 <Derau> Naturally.
18:21 <Riose> "Dismantled?"
18:25 <Samsuhn> "Thanks!"
18:27 <Samsuhn> we'll go to Tullo
18:36 <Riose> "Why would he have dismantled his ship?"
18:42 <Buck> we go to Tullo's office
18:49 <Mekkis> "Not sure. People do wierd things, you know..."
19:00 <Buck> "We'll find out soon enough Riose. Let's go."
19:15 <Valkur> "is that it??? people do weird things???"
19:27 <Mekkis> Tullo's office is simply furnished, with some dark woods around. An aged desk and a single chair behind it is the only features in this room.
19:27 <Buck> "Valkur, you stay near me."
19:47 <Samsuhn> is he in it
19:49 <Mekkis> yes
19:54 <Samsuhn> "Greetings good sir."
19:55 <Mekkis> Tullo is in the chair.
19:57 <Buck> I examine the room
20:01 <Mekkis> "Greetings."
20:05 <Buck> @see
20:06 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=2] 10
20:09 <Samsuhn> "A man named Bengeirr Haldyrsson rented a warehouse from you recently."
20:10 <Mekkis> You see some certificates.
20:12 <Samsuhn> "Which warehouse?"
20:19 * Valkur makes sure my crossbow is loaded
20:25 <Derau> Buck gets one low roll a day, I get one high roll a day
20:26 <Derau> figures
20:27 <Riose> "You know which one we mean."
20:28 * Valkur casts resistance
20:37 * Valkur prepares mage armor
20:49 <Mekkis> "Hmmm..."
20:54 <Mekkis> "Interesting..."
21:05 <Mekkis> "I might know that sort of thing..."
21:15 <Riose> I'm going to bluff him.
21:16 <Samsuhn> "I would imagine you do, it's your warehouse."
21:28 <Mekkis> "I imagine I would, too
21:33 <Riose> !throw 1d20+3 bluff
21:33 <diebot> Riose, bluff: [1d20=20] 23
21:47 <Mekkis> "But I respect the privacy of my clients"
21:54 <Riose> "He's my grandfather, sir.
22:32 <Mekkis> "Perhaps.. if he's so dear to you, I can give you the location for 10gp
22:42 <Valkur> I KNEW IT
22:44 <Valkur> MORE MONEY
22:45 <Buck> we do so
22:48 <Buck> 2gp
22:48 <Samsuhn> I'll chip in 2gp
23:06 <Valkur> i'd like to shove all those coins in his mouth,
23:28 <Derau> Uh, doesn't the society chuck us cash to compensate or something?
23:41 <Buck> yeah, at the end of the scenario
23:48 <Buck> 500gpish
23:59 <Derau> Oh, ok.
24:04 <Derau> I'll chuck in 2gp then
24:16 <Valkur> "do we get a receipt along with the information??"
24:24 <Valkur> lol
24:33 <Derau> "Please ignore my friend. He's a little...odd"
24:44 <Mekkis> he takes the money, and grunts
24:52 <Valkur> "there's something in the water"
25:05 <Valkur> "i was healed by an incompetent healer"
25:07 <Mekkis> "They're across from the Rosy Fingers Tavern."
25:13 <Valkur> "i may not have all my parts right"
25:15 <Mekkis> "You shouldn't have any trouble finding it.
25:26 <Samsuhn> "Excellent. Thank you for your services."
25:30 <Samsuhn> we'll go to the warehouse !
25:32 <Mekkis> "I don't care how you were healed. Get out of my office"
25:32 <Samsuhn> TO THE WAREHOUSE !
25:55 * Derau drags Valkur out, thanking the harbourmaster on the way
26:09 <Buck> I assist Derau
26:24 <Mekkis> DevCA diebot.ti4200.info port 4000
26:41 * Valkur yells i will be back for my gold!!!
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30:30 <Derau> gg
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31:27 Samsuhn gives voice to Riose
32:11 <Riose> accidentally hung up
32:12 <Riose> recall, please
34:17 <Samsuhn> @per
34:17 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=19] 22
34:19 <Derau> @see
34:20 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=13] 19
35:21 <Buck> @see
35:21 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=12] 20
35:33 <Derau> You can use wine for steam
35:44 <Derau> You can't run anything, but steam itself will run
35:57 <Riose> most steam games run fine under wine
36:07 <Derau> I will chuck my grappling hook on the roof then climb up.
37:07 <Buck> I attach my grappling hook to my rope and do the same
37:19 <Buck> I knot it also
37:35 <Derau> Yep.
37:37 <Samsuhn> I'll climb up
37:41 <Derau> Cautiously testing the roof.
37:50 <Samsuhn> purple, medium
37:51 <Derau> Yellow. M
37:52 <Buck> brown, medium
37:54 <Buck> Dobs isn't coming
37:56 <Derau> Taking 10
37:58 <Mekkis> colours and sizes
38:03 <Riose> Have we used that key for anything?
38:09 <Samsuhn> taking 10
38:18 <Buck> I draw my gun
40:22 <Mekkis> The warehouse across from The Rosy Fingers Tavern is built
40:22 <Mekkis> right on the docks, part of it extending over the water. The
40:22 <Mekkis> building is thirty feet tall with no visible windows. On the
40:22 <Mekkis> landward side is a pair of large cargo doors with a smaller
40:22 <Mekkis> door built into the right one. Piers run along either side of the
40:22 <Mekkis> building and on the seaward side is a massive set of doors able
40:22 <Mekkis> to accommodate a small ship.
40:22 <Mekkis>    The street is busy, with several taverns among the
40:22 <Mekkis> warehouses. Most of the warehouses have sentries in front
40:22 <Mekkis> of them, and the ships at the docks are similarly guarded. A
40:22 <Mekkis> northlander warrior with an axe resting in his lap sits on a small
40:22 <Mekkis> pile of crates across from the warehouse, obviously keeping
40:22 <Mekkis> watch on the main door.
40:57 <Derau> Why didn't you tell us this before?
41:37 <Derau> brb
41:59 <Riose> can you repost the IP?
42:10 <Buck> @see
42:11 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=12] 20
42:16 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1 stealth
42:17 <diebot> Samsuhn, stealth: [1d20=7] 8
42:17 <Samsuhn> @per
42:18 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=10] 13
42:21 <Buck> !throw 1d20+3 stealth
42:21 <diebot> Buck, stealth: [1d20=1] 4
42:43 <Riose> !throw 1d20+3 stealth
42:43 <diebot> Riose, stealth: [1d20=9] 12
45:16 <Derau> Where?
45:58 <Derau> Anyone got a reach weapon?
46:16 <Derau> Yeah
47:16 <Derau> See, if I'd been playing Kaleb, I could disable device...
47:24 <Derau> Not I
48:56 <Derau> I'll move to the NE skylight and pull my crossbow out
48:57 <Riose> are we within touch range?
51:34 <Derau> L10
51:39 <Mekkis> give me locations here
51:42 <Derau> L10
52:07 <Derau> Jesus.
53:09 <Riose> I need the CA ip address again
53:10 <Riose> nevermind, got it
53:10 <Riose> horrifyingly slow internet connection tonight. Waiting for the map to finish loading
53:10 <Derau> Der-ow
53:26 <Riose> * Ping reply from Riose: 40.24 second(s)
53:42 <Derau> nice 1
53:47 <Buck>  [Riose PING reply]: 1sec
54:10 <Derau>  [Riose PING Reply] : 0.578 seconds
54:17 <Derau> Wtf is the second one?
55:22 <Derau> What's the triangle at L16?
56:02 <Derau> What's the other triangle then?
56:42 <Derau> I will shoot the guy near my skylight.
56:43 <Mekkis> It's the lantern
56:44 <Derau> Now.
56:59 <Mekkis> what's everyone else doing?
57:25 <Derau> @init
57:25 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=7] 9
57:27 <Buck> @init
57:28 <diebot> Buck, initiative: [1d20=19] 22
57:31 <Mekkis> initiatives please
57:36 <Derau> Bloody hell
57:40 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 init
57:40 <diebot> Samsuhn, init: [1d20=19] 22
57:45 <Buck> @init
57:45 <diebot> Buck, initiative: [1d20=2] 5
57:48 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 init
57:48 <diebot> Samsuhn, init: [1d20=4] 7
57:57 <Riose> !throw 1d20+4 init
57:58 <diebot> Riose, init: [1d20=6] 10
58:01 <Mekkis> Initiative, Valkur?
58:10 <Buck> do you have the map riose
58:26 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 valk init
58:27 <diebot> Samsuhn, valk init: [1d20=7] 10
58:44 <Derau> So as usual, Buck is first in init and I'm last.
58:59 <Valkur> im sorry guys
59:02 <Valkur> im out of juice
59:34 <Buck> are you okay for us to take over your character
59:54 <Mekkis> Samsuhn's turm
00:02 <Samsuhn> casting sleep
00:03 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5 will save
00:03 <Samsuhn> DC 18
00:04 <diebot> Mekkis, will save: [1d20=10] 15
00:30 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
00:31 <Buck> I shoot at the guy I can see
00:35 <Buck> !throw 1d20+7
00:35 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+7: [1d20=13] 20
00:36 <Mekkis> roll it
00:39 <Buck> !throw 1d12+1
00:39 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+1: [1d12=1] 2
00:41 <Buck> ouch!
00:45 <Mekkis> hits him in the arm
00:57 <Mekkis> it's now Riose's turn
01:05 <Riose> Can I see the one who isn't asleep?
01:21 <Riose> still waiting to load the map, working off character positions only at the moment
01:43 <Buck> say what you're doing in channel canine
02:01 <Riose> Shooting the one who wasn't put to sleep
02:04 <Mekkis> ok
02:06 <Mekkis> roll to-hit
02:19 <Riose> !throw 1d20+2 to hit
02:20 <diebot> Riose, to hit: [1d20=17] 19
02:24 <Mekkis> hits
02:34 <Mekkis> rol ldamage
03:01 <Riose> !throw 1d20+1 damage
03:01 <diebot> Riose, damage: [1d20=14] 15
03:07 <Riose> oops
03:16 <Riose> !throw 1d8+1
03:16 <diebot> Riose, 1d8+1: [1d8=4] 5
03:22 <Mekkis> it hits him
03:36 <Mekkis> it's now Valkur's turn
03:56 <Samsuhn> Valkur will magic missile the other guy
04:45 <Mekkis> roll damage
04:46 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d4+1
04:46 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d4+1: [1d4=4] 5
04:56 <Mekkis> the other guy is dead
05:16 <Mekkis> make a knowledge engineering check
05:38 <Buck> !throw 1d20+5 engineering
05:39 <diebot> Buck, engineering: [1d20=20] 25
06:07 <Mekkis> you manage to carefully place your charges (four of them), to cause the grate to fall down, and catch it as it falls
06:35 <Mekkis> Samsuhn now has the lantern
06:55 <Samsuhn> get one of the grappling hooks
07:13 <Buck> I go get the rope
07:17 <Buck> and go tie him up
07:25 <Buck> I'll be in the warehouse
07:31 <Mekkis> sure
07:36 <Buck> I reload my gun first
07:37 <Buck> !
07:38 <Mekkis> Samsuhn and Buck are in the warehouse
07:43 <Mekkis> the guy is now tied up
07:55 <Derau> What.
08:00 <Derau> I jumped down too.
08:05 <Samsuhn> what can we see in the warehouse that we couldn't before
09:30 <Samsuhn> casting detect magic
10:35 <Samsuhn> we'll take the package to the sleeping guy
11:38 <Samsuhn> I'll take both lanterns back to the sleeping guy
11:39 <Samsuhn> and wake him up
11:57 <Samsuhn> "What's this lantern for?"
12:09 <Mekkis> "What... in the name of Gorum... is going on over here?"
12:27 <Samsuhn> "Well, you're our prisoner."
12:27 <Derau> "You tell us, mate"
12:36 <Samsuhn> "You and your shipmates attacked Skelg."
12:39 <Samsuhn> "Now we're attacking you."
12:42 <Samsuhn> "HOW DO YOU LIKE THEM APPLES?"
12:44 <Mekkis> "The lantern was a family heirloom"
12:52 * Buck keeps watch
12:53 <Samsuhn> "Which one is the heirloom?"
12:55 <Mekkis> "Skelg stole it"
13:17 <Mekkis> he gestures to the one that was magical when you detected it
13:33 <Samsuhn> "Should I turn it on?"
13:38 <Samsuhn> I face it toward him
13:39 <Mekkis> "No"
13:41 <Derau> "What does it do?"
13:42 <Samsuhn> "Why not?"
13:50 <Mekkis> "It's for guiding ships"
13:57 <Samsuhn> "So why can't I turn it on?"
13:59 <Mekkis> "Not for shining indoors"
14:10 <Samsuhn> "I might shine it in your face, and then leave you here."
14:14 <Mekkis> "Especially at people."
14:21 <Mekkis> Samsuhn, intimidate check please
14:27 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2 intimidate
14:28 <diebot> Samsuhn, intimidate: [1d20=1] 3
14:33 <Derau> No thanks.
14:46 <Buck> "Let me try."
14:51 <Buck> I take the lantern
14:52 <Samsuhn> I hand the lantern to Buck
14:56 <Buck> I point it at him
15:05 <Mekkis> he laughs at you.
15:08 <Mekkis> "What do you want?"
15:17 <Buck> "We can do this two ways."
15:24 <Buck> "You can tell us what it does, or I can find it for myself."
15:25 <Samsuhn> "How do you reverse the effects of this lantern?"
15:27 <Buck> "It's your choice."
15:41 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+11 spellcraft
15:41 <diebot> Samsuhn, spellcraft: [1d20=6] 17
15:41 <Mekkis> "It guides ships."
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15:46 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 arcana
15:46 <diebot> Samsuhn, arcana: [1d20=9] 18
15:50 <Derau> I'll use knowledge religion to see if it has religous significance of some variety
15:59 <Buck> "It's magic. Tell us why."
16:05 <Derau> !throw 1d20+1
16:05 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+1: [1d20=18] 19
16:10 <Mekkis> "It seems to have detrimental effects on people its aimed at, too."
16:19 <Buck> "Now we're getting somewhere."
16:23 <Buck> "What detrimental effects?"
16:32 <Samsuhn> I'm casting hypnotism on him
16:47 <Mekkis> "Well, it made Skeld shiver. We hadn't foreseen this at all.."
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17:09 <Buck> "Okay, you say Skelg stole it off you."
17:13 <Buck> "Where did you originally get it?"
17:13 <Samsuhn> "Where's Bengeirr?"
17:32 Samsuhn gives voice to Riose
17:38 <Riose> "Bengeirr was lying to you, you know."
17:43 <Mekkis> "From the Irrisen witches to the north. It was with my family for years. Some say that Baba Yaga made it herself for us."
18:27 <Buck> "Tell us more these issirsen witches."
18:30 <Buck> about^
18:37 <Buck> I set the lantern down, less threatening
19:18 <Samsuhn> "How do we reverse the effects on Skelg?"
19:40 <Mekkis> "I don't know. It hasn't happened before."
19:52 <Derau> How much longer is this going to go, Mekkis>
19:57 <Mekkis> not long
20:08 <Riose> "You mean it isn't supposed to make people sick?"
20:13 <Derau> Baba yaga is the witch mother or something, isn't she?
20:34 <Samsuhn> "How did the lantern make a portal in a tapestry?"
21:30 <Mekkis> "Not sure about that either. I wasn't there... when we raided Skeld's place, like Skeld raided my fathers, I heard something about a portal."
21:40 <Mekkis> "I don't know how it happened either."
22:21 <Derau> Um.
22:33 <Samsuhn> I'll search these two guys
22:34 <Derau> What about the water?
22:54 <Derau> Buck was murdering them
22:55 <Mekkis> ok
23:07 <Derau> It's all Buck's fault.
23:34 <Mekkis> you find: a greatsword, half plate, a holy symbol of gorum, and a key
23:47 <Buck> I take the greatsword
23:51 <Derau> I'll take the holy symbol.
23:56 <Derau> Get rid of it later.
24:38 <Derau> I reckon we just go out cia the roof
24:49 <Derau> How much longer will we be playing?
25:26 <Buck> gg
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26:02 <Samsuhn> oh hey, net split is over
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26:25 <Buck> that's convenient
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26:44 Buck is now known as Avatar
26:53 <canine> horrible internet connection tonight anyway
26:57 <Ballig> yeah :p
27:01 <Avatar> this is a fairly tough roleplay scenario
27:02 <Ballig> you might need to figure out if you can wine skype
27:03 <canine> chat was lagging and voice kept cutting in and out
27:06 <Avatar> I don't like mysteries
27:11 <Avatar> I'm not very good at it
27:25 <canine> I downloaded a plugin for pidgin that should allow me to access skype
27:29 <Avatar> it's fun though
27:40 <canine> that might make it easier to use
27:45 <canine> this is my favorite kind of scenario
27:56 <Avatar> yeah isn't this your class' specialty
28:32 <canine> My class is sort of a jack-of-all-trades type.
29:11 <Avatar> isnt' an inquisitor like a mystery-solver type of person
29:39 <Avatar> maybe I'm wrong
29:46 <canine> its like a toned down cleric with a few special abilities
30:12 <canine> but it has a sense motive and intimidate bonus
30:24 <canine> so its a little better for that sort of thing than other classes
30:46 <Ballig> class specifically designed for interrogating
30:49 <Avatar> I guess that's about as specific as it can get
33:34 <canine> am I still here?
33:51 <Ballig> yep yep
34:13 <canine> cool
34:17 <canine> my net is killing me
37:12 <Avatar> `op
37:21 <Avatar> `op
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37:28 * Avatar removes voice from Avatar canine Valkur
37:57 <Derau> <+Derau> Taking 10
47:10 <Brunius> Nope.
47:26 <Ballig> nope what
48:52 <canine> Chuck Testa.
49:06 <canine> brb
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05:27 <Avatar> Ballig: you didn't actually send me a chronicle sheet with the items I bought
06:16 <Ballig> pretty sure I linked it
08:47 <Avatar> you linked me one without items
09:31 <Avatar> wait now it has items
21:26 <Ballig> how convenient
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41:32 <Mekkis> hehe
41:39 <Mekkis> Add Print Edition: 		$34.99
41:39 <Mekkis> PDF available Wednesday: 		$9.99
41:39 <Mekkis> (In your downloads) 
43:01 <Ballig> are you cheating
45:08 <Brunius> What
45:12 <Brunius> Who's cheating?
45:13 <Brunius> WHy?
46:40 <Ballig> it's in his downloads but isnt' released for 3-4 more days
46:57 <Mekkis> wow
47:01 <Mekkis> magnets are cool
47:06 <Brunius> No shit?
47:10 <Mekkis> 5sp
47:18 <Mekkis> and can lift 3lb of iron or steel!
47:30 <Mekkis> I'll take 100
47:43 <Brunius> So I can pepper my body with magnets, then just stick daggers all over the place?
50:48 <Ballig> haha
51:01 <Ballig> if I tie a bunch of magnets to my lance, can I use it to get free disarms?
51:33 <Mekkis> please don't go there
52:52 <Ballig> :(
55:50 <Mekkis> hmmm
56:04 <Mekkis> how many magnets would be required to lift the lantern
56:10 <Ballig> ha
57:23 <Ballig> magnets and string ftw
58:00 <Brunius> We still wouldn't have been able to get the grate off
00:33 <Mekkis> well... it doesn't actually say how much it weighs
01:35 <Mekkis> Frozen Fingers of Midnight is interesting in that it breaks a lot of PFS rules that are now in place
02:30 <Ballig> like what
04:34 <Mekkis> allowing players to end the scenario with more gold than the "maximum gold" on the chronicle sheet
05:15 <Mekkis> allowing the players to get completely screwed over in a non-TPK fashion
06:54 <Ballig> ha
07:05 <Ballig> eideran was going on and on about how he wants to be able to pillage things and make more gold
07:11 <Ballig> he's obviously a very dungeon-crawl person
08:07 <Mekkis> obviously I didn't choose a good scenario for him then
09:50 <Ballig> I'm still boggled by the fact that his complete assurance and confidence that he wasn't going to be killed was because he was hoping that his magic missile would finish the guard off
10:14 <Mekkis> I thought it was good roleplaying
10:36 <Ballig> that wasn't roleplaying, that was out of character
10:42 <Ballig> he was assuring me, out of character, that he was fine
10:45 <Ballig> and didn't need any help
11:01 <Ballig> it's not roleplaying if you actually ARE that stupid :p
13:38 <Mekkis> it can be
13:51 <Ballig> if you just play a character exactly how you are, that's not really roleplaying
13:54 <Ballig> you aren't playing a role
20:06 <Brunius> You're playing the role of yourself
20:13 <Ballig> that isnt' playing a role
20:20 <Ballig> the same way reality TV isn't "acting"
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07:36 <Brunius> I think Eidren is playing a chaotic stupid character.
07:59 <Mekkis> I'd rather DM lawful evil characters than chotic neutrals
08:04 <Mekkis> chaotic even
09:17 <Ballig> he says he "always plays true neutral"
09:25 <Ballig> I'm sure because he thinks that means he can do whatever he wants
11:51 <Brunius> Um....
11:59 <Brunius> TN isn't what I saw him playing.
13:21 <Ballig> TN is just what he chooses because he likely feels as though it has no restrictions on what he can and can't do
15:48 <Brunius> Heh
15:49 <Brunius> http://www.halolz.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/dnd-tf2.jpg
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09:43 <Mekkis> Austnet's been pretty unreliable recently
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14:24 <Eidren> sorry everyone >_<
14:30 <Eidren> i totally blacked out
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16:54 <Ballig> you missed your character getting a killshot
18:23 <Eidren> im not dead yet?
18:23 <Eidren> lol
18:44 <Eidren> i've decided to adjust my sleeping pattern
19:10 <Eidren> so i can actually stay up during your time slot
26:24 <Ballig> our time slot is 3 hours in front of yours :p
26:26 <Avatar> things went pretty smoothly because we were able to pull off a quite surprise attack
26:38 <Avatar> quiet
26:41 <Avatar> sort of
26:50 <Ballig> yeah, someone actually let us plan for a few minutes so we could neutralise a threat and then take out the other threat within a few rounds
27:09 <Avatar> nobody yelled out prepare to be slain while we interrogated the bad guy
27:51 <Avatar> Bengeirr got taken into the guards instead of executed and we got a funny little bit happen after the encounter for doing so
40:17 <Eidren> lol
40:35 <Eidren> i missed the bloodbath then
40:46 <Eidren> murder death kill!
40:48 <Eidren> >_<
41:02 <Eidren> my next character will be a fighter instead!
41:03 <Eidren> lol
41:32 <Ballig> it wasn't a bloodbath
41:43 <Ballig> like I said, we were allowed to have a little bit of time to prepare, so we neutralised one threat immediately
41:47 <Eidren> it should have been!
41:49 <Ballig> and took down the second in a few rounds
42:47 <Eidren> what happened though
42:50 <Eidren> is the scenario done?
44:50 <Ballig> no
45:02 <Avatar> when did you conk out
45:07 <Ballig> on the roof I think
45:07 <Avatar> what's the last thing you remember
45:19 <Ballig> we found the warehouse, scaled the roof, put bengeirr to sleep and killed the other guy in the warehouse
45:23 <Eidren> i remember talkign to the guy at the warehouse
45:29 <Ballig> tied bengeirr up, got the lantern
45:37 <Eidren> we were talking to this guy inside the warehouse
45:43 <Ballig> were told that he basically doesn't know anything about it
45:58 <Eidren> then i saw the map
46:02 <Ballig> either you mean the guy who told us where to find the warehouse, or else you were still here while you were being NPCed
46:03 <Eidren> where everyone were taking their place
46:30 <Avatar> did you fall asleep while we were planning it
47:05 <Eidren> yes
47:23 <Eidren> i couldn't get up anymore
47:37 <Ballig> we don't want to hear about that
47:38 <Ballig> :O
48:37 <Eidren> ~_~
48:43 <Eidren> i meant i was out like a light.
52:34 <Avatar> we know what you meant
57:45 <Avatar> god selection criteria suck
58:54 <Ballig> yeah
59:10 <Avatar> I have 2 hours to finish the one I was doing the other day
59:27 <Avatar> I stopped right at the selection criteria
02:51 <Ballig> the selection criteria is the application
02:56 <Ballig> if you spend longer on anything else, you're doing it wrong
04:45 <Avatar> I feel like I should ignore half of what it's asking me to answer the questions
05:22 <Ballig> you need to answer the full question and provide actual examples of how that has come into play in your current and previous roles
05:27 <Ballig> or else they are unlikely to consider you
05:38 <Avatar> they won't even know what just happens when I hit them with my answers
05:46 <Ballig> :p
05:51 <Ballig> good luck, I'm off to bed
06:23 <Avatar> gg
06:31 <Avatar> hey who is compact
06:35 <Avatar> compact: roll up a character !!
12:05 <Eidren> im seriously annoyed with my rig
12:34 <Eidren> 4 gigs vid card 8 gigs ram i7 and it still can't
12:40 <Eidren> run some games fast
12:43 <Eidren> WTF??????
13:03 <Avatar> fantastic
13:09 <Avatar> that's the rig I just bought
13:27 <Eidren> i know
13:41 <Eidren> but im playing heroes of might and magic 6
13:46 <Eidren> and max setting slows it down
13:52 <Eidren> even ballig must die
13:57 <Eidren> slows down on max
31:56 <Brunius> Is the mobo bottlenecking it?
32:02 <Brunius> You've got 64-bit, right?
39:58 <Avatar> or is the graphics card bottlenecking it
40:02 <Avatar> you didnt' mention what you were using
43:09 <Brunius> 4 gigs
43:18 <Brunius>  4 gigs vid card
44:40 <Avatar> but what is the card
45:02 <Brunius> It wouldn't have 4 gigs if it couldn't handle the data transfer
45:35 <Brunius> Night yo
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18:12 <Mekkis> the amount of RAM on the video card means nothing
18:27 <Mekkis> exactly what card is it?
18:29 <Mekkis> Eidren...
19:53 <Avatar> but think of the data transfer mekkis
20:42 <Mekkis> what about the data transfer?
26:27 <Eidren> back
26:30 <Eidren> sorry about hat
27:30 <Eidren> im on w7 64bit
28:20 <Mekkis> what video card is it?
28:29 <Eidren> geforce gt 430
28:44 <Mekkis> that's your problem
28:48 <Mekkis> it's a slow card
28:55 <Mekkis> regardless of how much RAM it has on it
29:03 <Eidren> whats a fast card?
29:23 <Mekkis> radeon 6850
29:26 <Mekkis> for example
29:33 <Avatar> YEP
29:35 <Avatar> that's the one I bought
29:58 <Avatar> and uh
29:59 <Avatar> it's 1GB
30:12 <Eidren> your vidcard is 1 gb?
30:18 <Avatar> yeah
30:25 <Avatar> are you sure yours is 4gb
30:30 <Mekkis> the amount of RAM on the card doesn't really affect performance at all
30:34 <Eidren> let me check
30:40 <Eidren> how do i check?
30:44 <Eidren> the receipt says 4gb
30:52 <Avatar> is that your rram
30:55 <Avatar> ram*
31:01 <Mekkis> Eidren's card is the type of card to designed to take advantage of people who think a 4gb card is better than a 1gb card :)
31:02 <Eidren> my ram is 8gb
31:21 <Eidren> i don't think it
31:25 <Eidren> they recommended this
31:31 <Mekkis> so?
31:35 <Eidren> i didn't exactly create it
31:39 <Mekkis> that means that they were overstocked :)
31:43 <Eidren> i went to a shop and said hey
31:45 <Mekkis> the 430 is an old card
31:48 <Eidren> it was the last stock lol
31:52 <Mekkis> exactly
31:57 <Eidren> so i got it for cheap
31:58 <Mekkis> they wanted to clear their crap
32:01 <Eidren> which is fine by me lol
32:07 <Mekkis> except that it's crap
32:34 <Eidren> ok
32:36 <Eidren> now what?
33:14 <Avatar> now you buy a new card
33:16 <Eidren> one thing i gotta say, this card handles multi tasking really great
33:38 <Eidren> i have 3 movies while in game while on skype vid =)
33:44 <Eidren> i wonder if your card can do that?
33:54 <Avatar> it can
33:58 <Avatar> and my card is 4 years old
34:00 <Eidren> lol ok
34:04 <Avatar> not the radeon 6850
34:07 <Avatar> my old card
34:09 <Avatar> radeon 4850
34:18 <Avatar> benchmarks don't even list it anymore it's so old
34:41 <Eidren> based on what i was told the ram allows you to do "more" than the usual shit
35:07 <Eidren> no very good with games though T_T
35:37 <Eidren> not bad for a 60$ card
35:40 <Eidren> ^_^
35:58 <Avatar> you were told the card would not be good with games?
36:05 <Eidren> what would happen if i had 2 cards?
36:13 <Eidren> no i wasn't
36:20 <Avatar> then your new card would probably ignore the old card because it is too garbage
36:20 <Eidren> it was cheap i didnt bother to ask.
36:36 <Avatar> oh I get it, you're saying it's not very good with games
36:40 <Avatar> I misunderstood
36:40 <Eidren> is that a fact? of how it works?
36:56 <Avatar> no, two cards is supposed to use the power of both
37:14 <Eidren> yes im saying it runs on high smoothly but ultra high stutters for split seconds
37:20 <Eidren> which makes me twitch every time i see it
37:26 <Avatar> yep
37:45 <Avatar> not much you can do about that with a low end card
38:08 <Eidren> i originally bought it for wow
38:17 <Eidren> but i quit wow because of my guild's incompetence
38:51 <Eidren> it's disgusting. i miss the old days where people were forced to be competent or be excluded
39:23 <Avatar> why were they incompetent
39:25 <Eidren> sigh.. what to play now?
39:31 <Avatar> pathfinder society
39:41 <Eidren> eq2?
39:47 <Avatar> pfs
39:53 <Eidren> i find myself wanting to go back there
40:02 <Eidren> PFS? doesnt even require a video card
40:03 <Eidren> lol
40:16 <Avatar> did you play terraria
40:25 <Eidren> no
40:28 <Avatar> very awesome game
40:33 <Avatar> buy it off steam and try it
40:41 <Eidren> BUY?
40:47 <Eidren> im allergic to that word.
40:58 <Avatar> you don't want to buy a game, but you're okay with a wow subscription?
41:10 <Eidren> i did not pay for it.
41:14 <Avatar> it's like $10
41:53 <Eidren> oh lol this game? tobuscus plays this ~_~
42:20 <Avatar> highly recommended
42:40 <Eidren> reminds me of ultima..
42:46 <Eidren> ish games
43:02 <Eidren> is this online>?
43:08 <Avatar> yeah
43:12 <Avatar> either online or offline
43:27 <Avatar> I can safely promise you hours of fun with it
43:46 <Eidren> im watching it
43:47 <Avatar> me ballig and brunius used to play it
43:49 <Eidren> seems fun
43:52 <Avatar> don't watch it man
43:54 <Avatar> spoils part of it
44:02 <Eidren> it the trailer.
44:11 <Avatar> yeah don't even watch the trailer
44:12 <Eidren> you are telling me not to watch the trailer? lol
44:15 <Eidren> omg
44:16 <Eidren> why?
44:17 <Avatar> seriously
44:21 <Avatar> because when you first get into the game
44:25 <Avatar> you will be amazed and amused
44:29 <Avatar> but not so much if you expect what's coming
45:03 <Eidren> this is like 2d minecraft..
45:25 <Eidren> LOL
45:29 <Eidren> this is cute
46:09 <Eidren> i'm going to make an oracle.
46:11 <Eidren> lol
48:21 <Mekkis> Eidren, we're talking graphic RAM, not system RAM
48:28 <Mekkis> graphics RAM allows you to...
48:36 <Mekkis> cache more 3d information.
48:51 <Mekkis> since nothing uses more than 2GB, normally less than 1GB, it doesn't matter
50:13 <Eidren> so people made vidcards with more ram
50:15 <Eidren> for what purpose?
50:36 <Eidren> multiscreens
52:55 <Avatar> Eidren: you realise even with an oracle, you still have to work with the party
53:04 <Avatar> it's not an excuse to ruin our plans every encounter
53:42 <Eidren> lol
53:59 <Eidren> my oracle will be submissive
54:03 <Eidren> it will be a SHE
54:10 <Eidren> no no
54:17 <Eidren> it will be..
54:23 <Eidren> hahahaha nvm
54:34 <Eidren> i watch too much anime
54:35 <Eidren> nvm
54:46 <Eidren> should i really be playing pfs?
54:52 <Eidren> if i ruin your plans
55:07 <Avatar> you could just play and not ruin plans
55:22 <Avatar> that's a better solution :P
55:22 <Eidren> i play the way i want. otherwise why play at all?
55:31 <Avatar> you don't like to play with a party?
55:49 <Eidren> i do
55:55 <Eidren> you can do as you like
56:00 <Avatar> if you can play with a party, there's no problem
56:09 <Eidren> im with a party
56:12 <Avatar> you can do roleplay your character however you like
56:39 <Eidren> then there should be "no don't do that" or no " you shouldn't do that"
57:05 <Avatar> are you really quite happy for us to let you die if you do something stupid
57:33 <Eidren> lol if letting me die is within your character's bounds go for it
57:45 <Eidren> i may be like this but i'd never let any of my party die.
57:54 <Eidren> not even at the cost of my own.
57:56 <Avatar> if it's risking getting us all killed, it's in almost every other character's best interest
58:13 <Avatar> and the thing is
58:14 <Eidren> who are you to say it is in everyone's best interest?
58:15 <Eidren> lol
58:17 <Avatar> the players don't want to let oyu die
58:27 <Avatar> but you're forcing our characters into stupid positions
58:30 <Eidren> with a communal mindset there is no individuality.
58:58 <Eidren> im being myself. the for the greater good crap is a tool
58:59 <Avatar> I'm only going by what happened in today's game
59:03 <Eidren> used when convenient.
59:15 <Eidren> ok let's make that an example.
59:22 <Eidren> 2 guards
59:26 <Eidren> obviously trying to stop us.
59:34 <Eidren> kill them. go in talk to the guy
59:37 <Eidren> get info go out
59:40 <Eidren> go to the harbor
59:49 <Avatar> the two guards may have known more than we found out
59:52 <Eidren> threaten the guy at the harbor for info pay nothing.
00:07 <Avatar> threatening the guy at the harbour could have costed us more info, gotten us less information
00:13 <Eidren> threats work far better than diplomacy on hostile enemies
00:20 <Eidren> cut off their fingers they are sure to talk.
00:21 <Avatar> the harbour guy wasn't hostile man
00:47 <Eidren> less info. how could it possibly get any less than what you got.
00:53 <Eidren> it's in his files.
01:00 <Eidren> beat him senseless
01:05 <Eidren> look through his files.
01:07 <Eidren> ~_~
01:10 <Avatar> you're going to get dragged into a jail cell soon
01:19 <Eidren> if they find out.
01:25 <Avatar> oh they'll find out
01:39 <Eidren> who will tell?
01:44 <Avatar> someone will notice
01:50 <Eidren> WHO?
01:54 <Avatar> anyone walking past
02:03 <Eidren> we are inside a building.
02:33 <Avatar> what happens if you kill someone who has vital information for the mission
02:39 <Eidren> bad people need to be culled really.
02:48 <Eidren> which is why we torture them first.
02:54 <Eidren> squeeze every drop of info.
02:56 <Avatar> what if torture doesn't work
03:09 <Eidren> torture works better on bad people.
03:16 <Avatar> but what if it doesn't work
03:27 <Avatar> you may have screwed us beyond the point of no return by that point
03:29 <Eidren> what ifs are irrelevant.
03:34 <Avatar> it's completely relevant
03:43 <Avatar> that's the only question
03:51 <Avatar> you can't assume what gets you the vital information is irrelevant
03:56 <Eidren> thinking about what ifs will only delay the inevitable.
04:12 <Eidren> what is your definition of vital information.
04:14 <Avatar> the inevitable of failing a mission?
04:21 <Avatar> obtaining the information you need to succeed
04:56 <Eidren> lol scenarios are simple. the rpg element of these things don't even come close to the things you see on tv.
05:23 <Avatar> what
05:44 <Eidren> like in the real world , there are many things one could do to remedy this
06:07 <Eidren> if a vital element is screwed up
06:16 <Eidren> the gm should be able to patch it up
06:49 <Avatar> I don't know, today we were talking about the possibility of failing a scenario
06:56 <Avatar> which is extremely rare
06:56 <Eidren> or have a means to being able to make it impossible to screw
07:12 <Eidren> maybe you are over thinking it.
07:13 <Avatar> I mean once that's been said, and you've been said to be the cause of that, I think it's time to take a look at how you're playing
07:17 <Eidren> it's a game afterall.
08:23 <Eidren> why so serious?
08:49 <Avatar> like I said, we shouldn't ever be talking about the possibility of failing a scenario, or we're doing something very wrong
08:58 <Mekkis> what
09:04 <Mekkis> there's always a chance of failure
09:18 <Avatar> entirely
09:22 <Avatar> not just one task
09:33 <Mekkis> yes
09:39 <Mekkis> there is always a chance of failure
09:45 <Avatar> do you still get exp for that
09:48 <Mekkis> and it's now covered in the scenarios
09:56 <Avatar> is that the second prestige point
10:17 <Mekkis> regardless, Avatar should be able to force your character to fit his mould
10:22 <Mekkis> yes
10:35 <Eidren> "force" ?
10:39 <Eidren> to fit his mould?
10:45 <Eidren> what do you mean?
10:47 <Avatar> yeah what do you mean by that
11:09 <Mekkis> basically, Avatar was trying to prevent Eidren from doing what his character would do in that session
11:26 <Eidren> lol
11:31 <Eidren> how unrpgish
11:34 <Avatar> after you went to sleep
11:49 <Eidren> blame it on multiple personalities
11:52 <Mekkis> that being said, Eidren should probably think about the consequences of his character's actions
11:56 <Eidren> this is why im making an oracle.
12:00 <Avatar> can you imagine us trying to make plans and then stopping ourselves and saying, okay, Valkur charges in before we're done now
12:07 <Mekkis> yes I can
12:11 <Avatar> haha
12:11 <Mekkis> and Jerod does the same thing
12:20 <Mekkis> and I appreciate that
13:07 <Mekkis> remember what happened at the warehouse
13:33 <Mekkis> you'd probably spend another half hour making plans if Brunius hadn't said "I shoot through the grate"
13:35 <Mekkis> or whatever
13:45 <Avatar> we were almost done
13:52 <Mekkis> same result, less time
14:02 <Avatar> he did it just at the point where we were about to lay down the powder 
14:08 <Avatar> jumping in prevented our backup plan
14:48 <Mekkis> laying down the powder and setting it off would have probably been detrimental to the overall result
15:18 <Avatar> I don't think any of us saw it that way
15:19 <Eidren> are you not capable of making plans in a shorter span of time.
15:32 <Avatar> if you want to hurry us up, that's one thing
15:38 <Eidren> US?
15:40 <Avatar> going in with a leeroy jenkins attitude is quite another
15:44 <Eidren> US???
15:45 <Eidren> lol
15:57 <Eidren> here you go again with WEs
15:58 <Eidren> and US
16:06 <Eidren> did everyone agree to it?
16:33 <Avatar> did anyone disagree
16:45 <Eidren> moot
16:53 <Eidren> no one agreed or disagreed.
16:57 <Eidren> which means
17:00 <Eidren> it is you alone.
17:04 <Eidren> not everyone else.
17:07 <Avatar> you seem to think everything that contradicts your argument is irrelevant man
17:14 <Eidren> hahahaha
17:14 <Avatar> I don't know how you expect anything to make sense like that
17:36 <Eidren> making sense is not a requisite of compliance.
17:40 <Eidren> either you comply or not
17:48 <Eidren> my character would have gone in
17:52 <Eidren> or shot or done something
18:01 <Eidren> all this incesant bickering is getting no where.
18:23 <Eidren> i don't have fireball yet.
18:31 <Eidren> if i survive long enough to get it...
18:33 <Eidren> hahahahaha
19:17 <Eidren> you see. my character is quite insane.
19:50 <Avatar> well at least you're having fun
19:57 <Mekkis> I have no problem with characters rushing in
20:10 <Mekkis> in almost every other group, at least one character does it
20:12 <Eidren> what makes it fun for you?
21:00 <Eidren> i should have gone sword and board
21:21 <Avatar> it is fun for me
21:30 <Avatar> and I do believe you should do what you want to do
21:48 <Avatar> but if your character charges in too recklessly, I'm inclined to let your character die
23:02 <Mekkis> that's always the risk you take by charging in
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24:43 <Eidren> woot
24:44 <Eidren> my banishment spell worked!
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24:47 <Eidren> banish non fun characters!
24:49 <Eidren> lol jk
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40:07 <Mekkis> Eidren, perhaps you should tell me more about your character
40:14 <Mekkis> so that we better understand him
48:13 <Eidren> he's a halfing sorcerer elemental bloodline of air
48:28 <Eidren> neutral leaning towards chaotic tendencies
49:04 <Eidren> led a life of freedom join the andoran
49:21 <Eidren> joined*
51:00 <Eidren> was cabin boy to a pirate ship before hence the trait captain's blade
51:07 <Eidren> more towards acrobatics
51:55 <Eidren> a hard life is a good life is what he grew with
52:42 <Avatar> http://www.infoworld.com/t/hard-drives/the-impending-hard-drive-shortage-and-possible-price-hikes-176453
52:51 <Eidren> led him to appreciate being able to do what he wants and the value of the crew.
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56:38 <Eidren> this guy is a prototype 
07:24 <Mekkis> hmm
07:33 <Mekkis> Avatar, I refuse to believe harddrive price hikes
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47:05 <Avatar-> I think they may have gone up already
50:52 <Mekkis> tell me when a laptop drive larger than 750GB comes out
50:55 <Mekkis> then I'll care
58:46 <Avatar-> why then
59:13 <Mekkis> because my laptop currently has a 750gb drive in it
59:27 <Mekkis> and I foresee it becoming full in the not-to-distant future
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