// #eevblog — 2021-07-12
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00:08:11 <Ampera> Today I am making Lemon ade
00:08:17 <Ampera> >:D
00:10:22 * T3sl4 is concerned, sends Lemon some aid instead
00:11:22 <Ampera> https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/281089/state-fair-lemonade/
00:11:24 <EEVBot> [Title] - State Fair Lemonade | Allrecipes
00:11:27 <Ampera> going to try with limes another day
00:12:21 <T3sl4> it's lemons, it's sugar, what more do you need?
00:13:06 <Ampera> water.
00:13:24 <T3sl4> i mean, i'd pour some bouron or aged rum into it, maybe muddle a mint leaf or something, but that's just me :^)
00:13:59 <Ampera> This specific style involves coating the lemon zest/peel in sugar, so you get all the oils and flavors from the zest
00:14:12 <T3sl4> and cooking it somewhat
00:15:55 <T3sl4> go figure, another stupid human feat: literally drinking and enjoying solvents (limonene)
00:17:02 <Ampera> humans are about 70% solvent
00:17:17 <Kuschelpony> soo lets see if the foxy joins again :)
00:17:32 <Ampera> live is perhaps uniquely possible because of solvents
00:32:06 <electrohead> o/
00:39:54 * T3sl4 solvates electrohead
00:41:19 * electrohead lactoses T3sl4
00:41:56 * T3sl4 stouts electrohead
00:42:08 <electrohead> you win
01:13:09 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20210711_111131.jpg
01:13:11 <EEVBot> I don't think so.
01:19:47 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20210711_111904.jpg
01:19:48 <EEVBot> I don't think so.
01:44:09 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Wow, @richardbranson and @virgingalactic did it! https://t.co/W8nXRZ5vuO
01:48:26 <Lemon> waddup frens !
01:52:42 * T3sl4 hugs Lemon
01:52:53 <Lemon> :D
01:53:48 * Ampera takes Lemon and adds him to the sugar bowl
01:54:11 <Ampera> some delicious lemonade is in the works for today
01:58:31 <Lemon> how y'all doing ?
02:02:31 <Ampera> hungry
02:02:43 <Ampera> pies are next after I finish cleaning the kitchen
02:03:19 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Another bullshit wireless power technology sucking investor money. Beware the asterisk's. https://t.co/cZe1uYnr0J https://t.co/hMk1nLKSp3
02:03:35 <T3sl4> key lime pie?
02:10:54 <hsn> https://olhardigital.com.br/en/2021/04/17/internet-and-social-networks/Spanish-tiktoker-says-he-is-the-last-human-being-alive/
02:10:56 <EEVBot> [Title] - Tiktoker says he is in 2027 and is the last human being alive - Olhar Digital
02:11:15 <hsn> Good stuff
02:12:37 <Ampera> T3sl4, steak, liver, kidney, mushroom, and gravy pies
02:12:53 <T3sl4> yay
02:13:11 <Ampera> gonna have them with a side of calrose rice today
02:13:19 <Ampera> making three to have plenty of leftovers
02:13:34 <hsn> Ampera you would love to be this guy
02:14:12 <Ampera> I do not want anything to ever do with TikTok
02:36:13 <Kuschelpony> she is lying, im sure we cant survive into 2027
02:36:21 <Kuschelpony> he is lying, im sure we cant survive into 2027
02:40:45 <Ysjoelfir> is he?
02:41:45 <Kuschelpony> i tried to be funny
02:42:24 <Ysjoelfir> I just woke up, so.... :D
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03:26:03 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBot time electrohead
03:26:03 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/07/11 13:26:03 where electrohead resides.
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03:40:15 <hsn> rust_collector: restaurants u like https://youtube.com/shorts/gGF9_b7TCkY?feature=share
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03:48:22 <Watcher> Hello
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03:53:09 <Ampera> https://amperaa.net/cdn/food/20210711_135130.jpg
03:53:11 <EEVBot> I don't think so.
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03:55:09 <coppice_> Ampera: some of that stuff looks really offal
03:55:16 <Ampera> no u
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04:18:13 <Ysjoelfir> that looks very nice Ampera, whats it going to become?
04:19:31 <Ampera> pie
04:20:21 <Ysjoelfir> eip?
04:20:24 <Ysjoelfir> sounds greaty
04:39:06 <coppice_> Ampera: That looks like enough for at least 3 pies. Maybe a little more.
04:43:36 <Ysjoelfir> I would like to have some.
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04:51:31 <Ampera> coppice, that's exactly the amount I intended to make
04:51:45 <Ampera> have actually run out of pie dishes, so I
04:51:54 <Ampera> ,er one goes in a skillet
05:09:04 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera in a skillet?
05:12:40 <rust_collector> should be ok, with a bit of seasoning
05:15:26 <Lord_of_nothing> Hi
05:15:38 <Lord_of_nothing> Tomorrow I have my mandatorry PCR Test.
05:17:39 <Ampera> rust_collector, the pan is nonstick, but paprika is involved
05:21:03 * steve30 passes Lord_of_nothing some coronaviruses
05:23:18 * Ampera gives steve30 the lambda gamma beta and tau variants of SARS-CoV-2
05:24:15 * Ysjoelfir would prefer omega
05:24:45 <Lord_of_nothing> well i dont need them now for 2 week holiday.
05:24:52 <Lord_of_nothing> I want travel to Romania.
05:25:54 <steve30> ooh, variants
05:28:09 Quit: Kuschelpony ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
05:49:48 <hsn> https://twitter.com/aref_hijjawi/status/1413811126756954112?s=19
05:50:12 <hsn> Dats how i like my Milch
05:52:13 <Ysjoelfir> hahahaha :D nice
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07:27:18 <rust_collector> I don't get it?
07:45:10 <rust_collector> hsn what??
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09:02:49 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Ah, yeah, nah. https://t.co/BryQ28KFPs
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09:06:17 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @sfrolov: https://t.co/XN9KdtyT50
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09:11:19 <arch> any potential pitfalls when using this design for a really basic BJT temperature sensor? https://i.imgur.com/2NY5y2t.png
09:12:33 <arch> im basically feeding the sensor bjt with 2mA cc, and measuring the voltage at the inverting pin
09:13:16 * arch rubs boogers on T3sl4's shirt
09:13:37 <T3sl4> way ahead of you there
09:13:48 <arch> :D
09:14:07 <T3sl4> seems like a lot of current
09:14:21 <T3sl4> 324, not 339?
09:14:22 <arch> 1mA is good? i wasn't sure what classified as "too much"
09:14:48 <T3sl4> holy fuck that's a 5A fan?
09:14:57 <arch> no lol
09:14:59 <T3sl4> i mean a few uA is enough to do that...
09:15:09 <T3sl4> maybe add an RC filter after it
09:15:38 <arch> good idea
09:15:44 <T3sl4> LMC7211BIM5/NOPB will use less current
09:15:59 <T3sl4> any other cmos comparator, or opamp if you MUST, will do just as well
09:16:26 <arch> yeah i dont really need low power usage. this is for a more beefier cc load
09:16:47 <arch> fucks sake, $1.50/pop for that IC you listed. does it look like im a millionaire?
09:17:53 <T3sl4> yes
09:18:39 <arch> man, i literally scrape off inductors off any random PCBs lol
09:18:49 <arch> that's saved me mucho moolahs
09:18:50 <DHess_US> 100 microamps is typical, but most designs use delta Vbe so no calibration is required.
09:20:40 <T3sl4> delta to one at ambient?
09:22:32 <arch> look what i did. big brains time. soldered this shit using 138C bismuth solder. way better thermal transfer than any epoxy: https://imgur.com/a/4vcb7bC
09:22:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
09:22:44 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/846178000722853898/863922958727643136/20210711_182335.jpg
09:22:46 <Ampera> cc Lemon
09:22:48 <arch> popped it in my reflow oven
09:23:11 <arch> set it for 160C (way below standard 183C leaded solder), then used bismuth solder paste and pasted that
09:23:26 <arch> popped the whole goddamn heatsink inside the oven
09:24:33 <arch> rated for DC bias at close to 20A at 30V, but that's at 25C. derated appropriately, i expect it should be able to do at least 75W
09:25:51 <arch> around 100C temp that is
09:26:27 <arch> welp, as long as this doesn't go above 138C, we won't have any firecrackers
09:27:48 <arch> o, also as long as the thermal coefficient of expansion doesn't make the mosfet come off one day...
09:28:15 <arch> different coeffs between bismuth, copper, tin, etc. #yolo
09:28:34 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/1G83P4Q.png
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09:41:50 <arch> is the TL431 capable of supplying low currents (100uA) in cc source operation? https://www.arrow.com/en/reference-designs/typical-application-for-tl431b-programmable-precision-references-for-constant-current-source/a4629abd1eae84d7e5a91cca45784d6a
09:42:30 <arch> right now im just using two discrete transistors for the current source
09:42:40 <arch> not sure if tl431 is a better way to go
09:42:46 <T3sl4> not accurately
09:43:03 <T3sl4> surely you'd want TLV431 or better
09:43:18 <T3sl4> or lm334
09:43:29 <arch> ill add that to my shopping list. i already have tl431 (sot-23s)
09:43:39 <arch> i do have lm334s, but thru hole
09:43:50 <arch> i can solder it on tho, so that would work
09:44:06 <arch> ah, also they were from ebay, so idk if they're grey market
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10:09:18 <Halcyon> Morning peaches
10:16:19 <T3sl4> 'lo mango
10:16:35 * Halcyon sips his wake up juice
10:19:42 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z77K62VTmgE
10:39:40 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
10:39:46 <Ampera> How are you doing HAL?
10:40:15 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
10:40:20 <Halcyon> Not too bad, how are you?
10:40:25 <Ampera> I made lemonade
10:40:31 <Halcyon> Ooooh
10:40:37 <Halcyon> You big tart
10:40:43 <Ampera> you old fart
10:40:45 <Halcyon> :P
10:40:53 <Halcyon> Is it carbonated?
10:40:57 <Ampera> fuck no
10:41:08 <Ampera> fastest way to ruin a homemade drink
10:41:08 <Halcyon> Do the bubbles hurt your nose? :P
10:41:19 <Ampera> no, I don't mind soda, but I wouldn't add it to anything
10:41:33 <Ampera> especially not fresh lemonade
10:41:42 <Halcyon> I'm not suggesting adding soda water to it, I thought you might have used a Sodastream or something to make it bubbly
10:42:00 <Ampera> Nobody owns sodastreams here.
10:42:11 <Halcyon> To be fair, I don't own one either
10:42:15 <Ampera> if you were to tell someone you did, they'd either beat you to within an inch of your life, or just never speak to you again
10:42:25 <Ampera> massive wastes of time and money
10:42:27 <Halcyon> Agreed
10:42:40 <Halcyon> It's cheaper just to buy generic brand soda water from the store
10:42:55 <Ampera> I just don't drink soda unless I'm out to eat
10:43:03 <Ampera> I mostly drink water, with occasional tea
10:43:20 <Halcyon> I don't like other carbonated beverages like soft drink
10:43:30 <Halcyon> It's almost always just soda water
10:43:49 <Ampera> I don't think I've ever had soda water
10:43:54 <Ampera> I've had and hate seltzer
10:43:59 <Ampera> usually bitter and disgusting
10:44:01 <Halcyon> I just find regular water gets a bit boring
10:44:14 <Ampera> Water's healthy and delicious
10:44:25 <Ampera> there is nothing better one can drink
10:44:43 <Halcyon> I'm not sure exactly what seltzer water is...
10:45:03 <Halcyon> We have either soda water, or mineral water. The former is literally just water and CO2, nothing else added.
10:45:12 <Ampera> There's a distinction, but I'm not sure of it
10:45:26 <Halcyon> Oh, then there is tonic water which tastes like ass
10:45:28 <Ampera> it's possible there isn't, but most beverages I've had advertised as seltzer or even flavored seltzer were disgusting
10:45:34 <Ampera> I don't mind tonic water
10:45:42 <Halcyon> I hate quinine
10:45:50 <Ampera> but it keeps you from getting malaria
10:46:17 <Halcyon> We don't have malaria here
10:46:51 <Ampera> obviously, you people drink quinine
10:46:59 <Halcyon> *shrug*
10:47:46 <Halcyon> There is actually one tonic water I tried which was quite nice. It still gave quinine in it but much less of it
10:47:52 <Halcyon> *had
10:48:05 <Ampera> I think the tonic water I tried was Q's
10:48:09 <Ampera> had a nice flavor to it
10:48:16 <Ampera> was bitter, but taken in sips it wasn't too bad
10:48:30 <Ampera> wouldn't mind having some again at some point
10:50:05 <Halcyon> I need to go shopping
10:50:22 <Halcyon> Trying to think what to make for dinner tonight, I want something other than chicken, been eating sooo much chicken lately
10:54:02 <Halcyon> I might do a beef korma
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10:55:07 <Nothing\> holy crap this game i got is fun
10:55:12 <Nothing\> dyson sphere project
10:55:19 <Nothing\> but there's soooo much to learn
10:55:29 <Halcyon> Do you have to build a vacuum cleaner?
10:55:42 <Nothing\> hrm i don't believe so
10:55:53 <Halcyon> SimDyson :P
10:55:56 <Halcyon> Hehe
10:56:03 <Nothing\> haha i see what you did there
10:56:32 <Nothing\> i think there is a spherical dyson vacuum too, isn't there
10:57:18 <Halcyon> I believe so
10:57:18 <Nothing\> https://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/2498/2498029_rd.jpg
10:57:22 <Nothing\> the dyson sphere
10:57:29 <Halcyon> :P
10:57:44 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to go poop, shower and shop (in that order), back soon.
10:57:51 <Nothing\> or there's this one
10:57:52 <Nothing\> https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/11676dd4c753726c06eb1402fb6e24c7-768-80.jpg
10:57:57 <Nothing\> Halcyon, enjoy the poop!
10:58:04 <Halcyon> That is one ugly vacuum
10:58:16 <Nothing\> yeah it looks really cumbersome to use
11:00:42 <Nothing\> man they're getting desperate for ideas for games
11:00:52 <Nothing\> "power wash simulator"
11:01:24 <Nothing\> sounds like a game for kids where you have to move the mouse to spray the dirty spots and make them clean
11:05:17 <Nothing\> this game's turning out to be really complex though
11:09:09 Quit: coppice_ ([email protected]) Quit: Konversation terminated!
11:12:57 <Nothing\> i believe today is the birthday of James Kilowatt-Hour
11:23:11 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
11:23:22 <Ampera> not you
11:23:24 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
11:23:27 <Ampera> there we go
11:28:25 <T3sl4> hi Nothing\
11:29:02 <Ampera> so a particularly amusing thing happened to my aunt and uncle today
11:29:25 <Ampera> A while ago, they got this big oversized wall clock, the thing must have been maybe 4ft in diameter or more
11:29:33 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera
11:29:38 <Nothing\> heya T3sl4
11:29:43 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4
11:29:49 <Nothing\> how are you guys doing?
11:29:51 <Ampera> my aunt got it without really having known what size it was, but ended up just rolling with it, and sticking the thing on the wall above the stairs which lead directly to the front door
11:30:06 <T3sl4> i love your aunt's oversized cock
11:30:10 <T3sl4> clock* fuck
11:30:16 <Ampera> it had been there for a year or two, relatively undisturbed until today
11:30:21 <Nothing\> i think you mean cock fuck
11:30:29 <T3sl4> ;)
11:30:29 <Ampera> when my aunt and uncle were bringing in grocceries
11:30:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, you should try this game i've been playing
11:30:46 <Ampera> my aunt accidentally bumped the clock with her shoulder, which caused it to fall off the wall, directly onto my uncle's head
11:30:48 <Nothing\> dyson sphere project
11:30:52 <Ampera> but it didn't stop there
11:30:57 * Ampera slaps Nothing\'s sphere
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11:31:32 <T3sl4> Nothing\: have heard it's alright
11:31:33 <Ampera> Because this was a staircase, and this wallclock was effectively a giant wheel, the clock went straight out the front door
11:31:44 <Nothing\> it's an open world space building game where you collect resources on planets by creating factories with mechs and then presumably use said resources to construct a dyson sphere. I haven't made it that far
11:31:57 <Ampera> it then proceeded to go across their reasonably sized front lawn, across the street, where it apparently almost hit a guy riding along on a motorcycle
11:31:59 <Nothing\> T3sl4, it's pretty fun so far but there's a LOT to learn
11:32:10 <Ampera> afterwards, it began to roll down the street, since it was a hill
11:32:12 <Nothing\> makes it kind of frustrating at points
11:32:24 <Ampera> it was only stopped when one of their neighbors ran like a maniac down the street just to catch it
11:32:34 <Nothing\> lol Ampera
11:32:39 <Ampera> runaway clock
11:32:43 <Nothing\> it became sentient after all of these years
11:33:40 <Nothing\> one day, a bunch of eskimos in alaska will see the clock roll through the icy plains just outside their village. Still chiming away and ticking and tocking
11:34:06 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg
11:34:24 <Ampera> T3sl4, appropriate
11:34:36 <T3sl4> Nothing\: https://imgur.com/r/funny/YjyYhEM
11:35:30 <Nothing\> Ampera, my friend told me about how when he bought this new drone. He took it out to the park to try. And as he was flying it, he flew outside of the range of the transceiver. So the drone's response was to just keep flying in a straight line forever until it was gone over the horizon.
11:36:10 <Nothing\> roflmao T3sl4
11:36:42 <Nothing\> I got the idea from the book version of a scanner darkly
11:38:17 <Nothing\> woody harrelson's character speculates about ways to smuggle hash into the country and says they could make a man sized and man shaped block of hash with a tape recorder in it and a motor that would let it walk and the tape recorder would just say "no I don't" so when it comes up to customs and they ask if it has anything to declare it says "no I don't"
11:38:36 <Nothing\> and make it solar powered so you don't have to worry about the batteries
11:39:43 <Nothing\> then someone else said it'd make its way up to an alaskan village like i described still going "no I don't... no I don't... no I don't... no I don't" as it walks clear through the village and on to the icy plains of alaska
11:41:20 <Nothing\> ah pkd died way too soon :(
11:41:53 <Nothing\> i would have LOVED to get the chance to pick his brain about VALIS
11:41:58 <T3sl4> i'm sure he's dreaming of electric sheep
11:42:13 <Nothing\> oh he most certainly is hehe
11:42:29 <Nothing\> that was a good book. But had very little in common with Blade Runner as far as I remember.
11:42:53 <Nothing\> just like total recall and We Can Remember it for you Wholesale
11:44:02 <Nothing\> and the remake of total recall had little if anything to do with the original film as far as i remember. Though I didn't bother watching the whole remake cuz it was just crap imo.
11:59:02 <DHess_US> The original film had little if anything to do with the original story, so that is fair.
12:07:18 <Nothing\> indeed
12:07:40 <Nothing\> but i wonder why so many pkd movies had so little to do with the novels
12:08:21 <Nothing\> ugh, zit in the corner of my eye
12:08:31 <Nothing\> why do they always crop up in the worst places
12:08:55 <Nothing\> like half way up your nostril, or inside the folds of your ear
12:09:52 <Nothing\> even when they're in an easy to reach spot, they take so much effort to pop
12:10:19 <Nothing\> i've stabbed them with the lancets i have for taking my blood sugar and it still isn't enough
12:10:55 <Nothing\> i'm not quite man enough to actually cut it open with a scalpel yet
12:12:46 <Nothing\> maybe if i got one big and painful enough or that became a full blown abscess
12:14:12 <T3sl4> i once had a... bit of a granuole thingy really, kinda in the crease under my eye, once
12:14:17 <Nothing\> i think using just a needle, it's like if you tried to puncture a tire with a nail. The rubber is elastic enough where the air pressure forces the hole shut
12:14:27 <T3sl4> no pain, just a tiny hard bump
12:14:38 <Nothing\> like a stye? sp?
12:14:54 <Nothing\> or was it more on the outer skin?
12:15:03 <T3sl4> eventually, i got annoyed enough by it / curious about it that i pinched and poked at it enough to break the skin, ended up forcing out a tiny hard white thing
12:15:20 <T3sl4> like, it could've been a sebaceous cyst, except hardened
12:15:28 <Nothing\> i've got something like a stye on my one eyelid but i've never gotten it to pop and i'll be damned if i'm bringing sharp needles that close to my eye
12:15:40 <Nothing\> neat
12:15:50 <Nothing\> that musta been very satisfying to get out
12:16:17 <T3sl4> wasn't pleasant, with how sensitive the skin is around there, and the amount of pinching/digging to get it out
12:16:26 <T3sl4> but yeh that heals in a day or two
12:17:18 <Nothing\> eye watering pain
12:17:31 <T3sl4> on another occasion, i had a firm (but not hard) spot on my chest, same sort of idea, but that one actually turned out to be a sebaceous cyst, that was fun
12:17:42 <Nothing\> i've never had a cyst yet
12:17:48 <Nothing\> but it's just a matter of time
12:18:05 <Nothing\> my skin's always either too oily or too dry
12:18:27 <Nothing\> and only too dry for like an hour or two after I wash it
12:19:13 <Nothing\> first thing in the morning i can literally scrape the oil off of my skin with a piece of metal and get this gross layer of pure oil off of it
12:19:36 <T3sl4> mmm, sebum
12:20:13 <Nothing\> yuup
12:20:28 <Halcyon> Back
12:20:54 * Halcyon throws a sprig at T3sl4
12:21:01 <Nothing\> Halcyon, forward
12:21:07 * T3sl4 smears Halcyon in sebum
12:21:10 <Halcyon> Ew
12:21:23 <T3sl4> really? that seems like something you'd be down for
12:21:32 <Halcyon> I don't want your secreations.
12:21:36 <Halcyon> Not from there anyway
12:21:49 <T3sl4> i didn't say it was mine
12:22:23 <Nothing\> T3sl4, you ever see that jackass stunt where they get the fat guy to wear a perfectly airtight suit (except his head of course.) Then get him to exercise real hard on a bike and sit in hot places and basically try to get him to sweat as much as possible
12:22:31 <Halcyon> That's even worse T3sl4
12:22:40 <T3sl4> seems familiar
12:22:46 <Halcyon> Isn't that dangerous Nothing\ ?
12:22:48 <Nothing\> then afterwards I believe it was steve-o who drank what they collected
12:22:57 <Nothing\> which was about a shotglass worth of stuff
12:22:57 <Halcyon> *vom*
12:23:04 <Nothing\> Halcyon, as long as you don't overheat
12:23:20 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah it was gross sa fuck
12:23:45 * T3sl4 plants a fart under Halcyon's skin suit
12:24:17 <Nothing\> or like when they had a bunch of people vomit in a bucket, then put in ingredients for an omelet and ate said omelet
12:24:41 <Nothing\> even after they vomited the omelet back up, they still ate it after it came back up
12:25:00 <Nothing\> lol now you've got people giving it away for free on youtube
12:25:52 <Halcyon> I can stomach most things Nothing\ but even thinking about it is making me a little ill
12:26:11 <Nothing\> Halcyon, yeah they really went too far with some of them lol
12:27:00 <Nothing\> or on the one steve-o video where he dressed up like a urinal and paid random men to piss on him
12:27:11 <Halcyon> That's more of a kink
12:27:16 <Nothing\> a lot of stuff in those moves was borderline gay though
12:27:20 <Halcyon> It's a thing (among some people)
12:27:23 <Nothing\> yeah lol
12:27:33 <Nothing\> like pissing or shitting on eachother
12:27:40 <Nothing\> putting their balls on eachother
12:27:51 <Halcyon> There used to be this guy in Sydney, he was infamous. Known as "Trough Man". Every gay guy knew about him.
12:27:55 <Halcyon> Guess what his pasttime was?
12:28:10 <Nothing\> human glory hole?
12:30:07 <Halcyon> Nope
12:31:28 <Halcyon> He would lay in the urinal trough at nightclubs
12:32:11 <Halcyon> https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-09/in-search-of-trough-man-an-icon-of-sydneys-1980s-gay-scene/8496200
12:32:19 <Halcyon> The news actually tracked him down and did an article on him
12:32:52 <Halcyon> And there is Wiki page dedicated to him https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troughman
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12:56:38 <Nothing\> huh
12:56:40 <Nothing\> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1636730/functional/
12:56:42 <EEVBot> [Title] - Save 10% on functional on Steam
12:56:51 <Nothing\> another programming game
13:01:04 <Nothing\> https://store.steampowered.com/app/1270620/Project_Chemistry/
13:01:06 <EEVBot> [Title] - Project Chemistry on Steam
13:01:09 <Nothing\> this looks interesting, too
13:01:14 <Nothing\> enough for me to buy it
13:09:40 <hsn> rust_collector: what?
13:16:53 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @EMSL: Cross section through a rocker-style DIP Switch. Outtake from a photo shoot with @TubeTimeUS https://t.co/hJae5x4eUP
13:18:21 <DHess_US> Nothing\, the pkd story wasn't suited for a general audience anyway, so they did a good job taking the basic premise.
13:18:47 <DHess_US> But the result was most of the movie being made up.
13:19:12 <DHess_US> A better question is why did they bother with that pkd story when there were just as many others from that era which were just as good.
13:20:11 <DHess_US> I think it goes to show that execution and a screenwriter who knows what they are doing and understands the source material will make a good movie no matter what the source was.
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13:20:43 <DHess_US> Unlike say the recent Without Remorse movie which is just trash.
13:21:17 <DHess_US> They completely missed the point of the book.
13:21:57 <Nothing\> DHess_US, for total recall? yeah they still did a great job on the original movie adaptation
13:22:07 <DHess_US> In Total Recall, the fact that the ending is ambiguous is exactly the point of the original story.
13:22:16 <Nothing\> actually, with blade runner, too
13:22:38 <DHess_US> I haven't read or don't remember Do Androids Dream so I won't comment on that.
13:23:11 <Nothing\> same, i don't remember either story
13:23:14 <DHess_US> But the original Total Recall is one of the few examples of a story turned into a movie done correctly.
13:23:54 <DHess_US> And Without Remorse is one of the many examples where the movie has nothing to do with the source, and is trash.
13:23:56 <Nothing\> they did a movie that sorta tied into valis called radio free albemuth, but thta was a book all on its own
13:24:22 <Nothing\> i've never read it though so i can't say how close to the movie it was but it followed a buncha stuff from valis
13:25:03 <Nothing\> definitely read valis a few times at least
13:25:26 <Nothing\> and the first sequel
13:25:54 <Nothing\> great books
13:26:01 <DHess_US> I'd like to see a book like Footfall or Protector turned into a movie or TV series.
13:26:03 <Nothing\> but really deep
13:27:00 <DHess_US> Footfall has a nice trick ending.
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15:44:23 <Nothing\> i am having many love for #eevblog
15:44:24 <Nothing\> <3
15:45:18 <Halcyon> Hehehe interesting
16:16:01 <steve30> hi
16:56:13 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
16:59:40 <steve30> Halcyon, here's a video of what else I was up to on Saturday
16:59:41 <steve30> https://odysee.com/@steve30:3/testing_times_july_2021:c
16:59:42 <EEVBot> [Title] - Testing Times with Banaman, Cane & Mountain Bikes.
17:07:04 <Halcyon> Did you get his number Steve? :P
17:07:47 <steve30> the bloke at the start? No but he gives his instagram name at the end if that's your kind of thing
17:08:12 <Halcyon> Not for me, for you :P
17:10:44 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, careful, steve30 is an imposter!
17:10:59 <Halcyon> :P
17:11:15 <Ysjoelfir> He pretends to be british, but he doesn't like tea.
17:11:40 <Ysjoelfir> AND he only kind of likes standing in lines, I just learned.
17:11:44 <Ysjoelfir> so another proof! XD
17:12:40 <steve30> I prefer to visit places when they're quiet so there's no queue
17:14:13 <Ysjoelfir> oh, he used queue instead of line. That makes him a bit more british again :P
17:14:33 <steve30> yeah, i was just going to say, we tend to call them queues rather than lines
17:14:57 <Ysjoelfir> one of those words we germans have lots of trouble pronouncing
17:15:13 <Ysjoelfir> its somewhere right behind squirrel
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17:41:29 <K> hello goblins
17:43:04 <Halcyon> Hey pixie
17:45:47 <K> im a bit tall for a pixie
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17:50:09 <Halcyon> I was just keeping with the theme :P
17:51:38 * steve30 has put some fish and chips in the oven
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18:17:08 <Halcyon> I made a curry
18:21:36 <DogWomble> was it butter chicken?
18:22:52 <Halcyon> Beef Korma
18:23:00 <Halcyon> Needs a bit more korma, but otherwise delicious
18:25:52 <DogWomble> :D
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21:03:08 <hsn> https://youtu.be/-mclkw3TZWU
21:03:08 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: How It's Made - Paper Cups
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21:14:00 <rc_lunch> dung ding, time to wake up
21:14:18 * Ampera blesses rc_lunch with our lord and savior, caffeine
21:14:24 <steve30> hi
21:14:40 <Ampera> when I just woke up, I didn't want to work today because I wanted to go back to bed
21:14:50 <Ampera> now I just don't want to work today because I'd rather go do something more interesting
21:15:08 <Ampera> on the bright side, my lemonade is probably chilled now
21:15:12 <Ampera> can go try it
21:15:14 * Halcyon spanks Ampera
21:15:28 <rc_lunch> me too, but i am already halfway done at work, and have nothing to do
21:15:30 <Halcyon> Argh, I am sick of the humidity here, my skin is so dry
21:15:37 <Halcyon> Stupid winter
21:15:46 <Ampera> I've really never had any problems with dry air
21:15:59 <rc_lunch> sounds good to me
21:16:04 <Halcyon> It's quite dry here. Even the floor boards shrink noticably.
21:16:05 <Ampera> our air is usually very dry, either due to aircon or winter, and I've never had any problems
21:16:12 <Ampera> that's because your house is new
21:16:27 <Ampera> the floorboards here are a hundred years old
21:16:29 <Halcyon> Well it's what wood/bamboo does
21:16:37 <Halcyon> In spring and summer, they'll expand again
21:16:39 <Ampera> it does, but newer wood does it more
21:17:07 <Ampera> Halcyon, if I DHL you my beef offal pies, would you take them off my hands?
21:17:12 <rc_lunch> you have bamboo floors?
21:17:15 <Ampera> made them and didn't end up liking the liver or kidney
21:17:30 <Halcyon> rc_lunch, yep
21:17:50 <Ampera> thought I would, but I think it's just beef liver/kidney, because I made this almost exact pie with turkey offal (heart, liver, kidney) and it was delicious
21:17:54 <Halcyon> Ampera, how the hell can you DHL fresh food, especially meat and expect it to be any good?
21:18:00 <Ampera> it was a joke
21:18:11 <Halcyon> I'd almost welcome it to see what happens :P
21:18:14 <Halcyon> I'm not eating it though
21:18:33 <Ampera> can put it under dry ice, and pay out the dick for fastest shipping possible
21:18:45 <Ampera> customs would probably not allow it though
21:18:48 <rc_lunch> they can make it happen, but it wont be cheap
21:19:14 <Ampera> well it'd have to happen around customs, which is the kind of not cheap which is well beyond my means
21:21:29 <rc_lunch> i bought a new little toy angle grinder today. I wonder if it will last longer rhan the previous one
21:22:12 <rc_lunch> i have to open it, and stuff it with grease, i guess
21:22:53 <Ampera> just get a large syringe, find the nearest vent hole, and squirt as hard as you can
21:23:02 <rc_lunch> mmhhmm
21:23:30 <Halcyon> Wow, I walked back in at the wrong time
21:24:05 <Ampera> don't you mean the right time?
21:24:09 <Halcyon> Sure
21:24:10 <Halcyon> :P
21:24:16 <rc_lunch> one of the bearings seized up on the old one, so when you turn it off, it stops instantly, and the disk unscrews itself, and goes flying.
21:24:36 <Ysjoelfir> lol
21:24:37 <Ampera> hahaha
21:24:40 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a nice toy
21:25:16 <rc_lunch> the old person version of the spinning top, i guess
21:26:03 <Ampera> again reminds me of the runaway wall clock my aunt/uncle had yesterday
21:26:12 <rc_lunch> uh
21:27:00 <Ampera> long story, but the tl;dr is they had this massive wallclock at the top of the stairs leading out the front door
21:27:14 <Ampera> thing was like 4ft wide, and basically a giant metal wheel, had been there for a year or two undisturbed
21:27:48 <Ampera> but yesterday my aunt knocked it off the wall with her shoulder, it landed straight on my uncle's head, kept going, rolled right down the stairs, out the front door, across their front yard, right into the street, almost hitting a guy on a motorcycle
21:28:02 <Ampera> rolled down the street (which was a hill), until a neighbor managed to go run like a maniac and catch it
21:28:09 <Halcyon> Oh gees
21:28:20 <Ampera> Buster Keaton would have been proud.
21:28:28 <rc_lunch> haaaa *gasping sounds*
21:28:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh gawd :D That must have been the adventure of the clocks life :P
21:29:27 <Ampera> If I ever save the entire world and god brings me up there to ask if there's anything I want, I'll ask to see that in person.
21:30:12 <rc_lunch> I will consider that
21:30:26 <Ysjoelfir> hehehe
21:34:43 <rc_lunch> i think i like the idea of bamboo floors
21:35:04 <Ampera> Eh, I'd rather have some real wood.
21:35:27 <Ampera> Bambo makes me think of cheap, my aunt and uncle as mentioned have bamboo flooring
21:35:41 <Ampera> it looks alright, but it kinda looks like very nice laminate
21:35:54 <rc_lunch> sure, it is weird to have grass floors, bit i think it would be nice to walk on
21:36:30 * Ampera rips up all of rc_lunch's floors and replaces it all with bright puke green 70's shag carpeting
21:36:45 <Ampera> complete with stains and dark spots of unknown long forgotten origin
21:36:47 <rc_lunch> no pink?
21:37:11 * Ampera gives rc_lunch a tank of pepto bismol and a hose, and instructions to go nuts
21:38:00 <rc_lunch> my aunt had pink carpets, and it was so thick and fluffy that you could hide a fork in it
21:39:25 <Ampera> is this speaking from experience?
21:39:35 <rc_lunch> mmm yes
21:39:51 <Ampera> do I want tea
21:39:58 <Ampera> I already had a caffeine pill
21:40:03 <Ampera> actually, I'm gonna go have a cup of lemonade
21:40:48 <rc_lunch> olga my russian neighbor is making tea, she was outside all day yesterday picking weeds and flowers
21:42:50 <Halcyon> How much sugar is in your lemonade Ampera?
21:43:05 <rc_lunch> she is prerry good at making "food" out of stuff she finds outside
21:43:08 <Ampera> Three and one third cups within 16 cups (one gallon) of water
21:43:20 <Ampera> 16 lemons used
21:44:08 <Ampera> The lemonade, now chilled, is good. Strangely, it was nicer when it was warm off the stove
21:44:19 <Ampera> this has a tinge of bitter in it, and I think I know why, I might have left the peel in the hot water a bit too long
21:44:38 <Ampera> I think as soon as the sugar has dissolved off the peel, I need to take the peel out of there
21:44:56 <Ampera> It's actually not a bad bitter, but one that might not be everyone's thing
21:45:19 <Ampera> it is definitely /very/ lemon, not just aggressive sour
21:45:39 <Lemon> who summoned me !
21:45:48 * Ampera hands Lemon some fresh lemonade
21:46:02 <rc_lunch> K: did
21:46:04 <Lemon> :OOO
21:46:13 <K> u wot?
21:46:15 <Lemon> you want me to drink my own blood ? wtf !
21:46:34 <rc_lunch> blood... well...
21:48:59 * T3sl4 shields Lemon's eyes
21:49:31 <rc_lunch> amazing lemon horse lalala
21:51:43 <rc_lunch> arrrff. maybe i should do something.
21:54:09 <rc_lunch> maybe K and Lartza can entertain you for a bit
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22:14:19 <Halcyon> Goodnight you lot
22:14:25 <Halcyon> See you in 9 hours
22:18:14 <coppice> Halcyon: Good lunchtime
22:19:34 <Ampera> i just realized make magazine is still around
22:19:39 <Ampera> I thought they went under a few years ago
22:19:48 <Ampera> I mean, looking at wikipedia, they did, but I never knew they managed to come back
22:19:50 <K> what do they write about?
22:19:55 <coppice> Ampera: making
22:20:08 <coppice> sorry K: making
22:20:08 <Ampera> K, what coppice said
22:20:26 <K> should go with the times and do cmake instead
22:20:42 <coppice> Ampera: lots of rotting corpses hang around for years
22:20:45 <Ampera> apparently even maker fairs are still around to an extent
22:20:54 <Ampera> coppice, I mean I've never been particularly impressed by them
22:21:15 <Ampera> there are some people who really seem to get crazy into the whole "maker" space, but it all seems almost creepy to me
22:21:31 <coppice> Ampera: why would maker fairs disappear? That's much more of a response to a need than any magazine
22:21:33 <Ampera> I don't really know why
22:22:03 <Ampera> Because I recall hearing Make declaring they couldn't run them anymore. I know mini maker fairs will probably never die, but anyone can run one of those.
22:22:47 <coppice> the whole maker thing brings lots of benefits. I know some engineers in Dallas who are really into it as a passtime, donating their effort to getting schoolkids doing things
22:23:22 <Ampera> I do know they do a lot of stuff for kids, but it sometimes seems like that's all they really do
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22:23:31 <Ampera> idk, it's a bit hard to explain why I find it all weird
22:23:50 <Ampera> I think a better description is what's weird about kipkay is weird about make in general
22:23:58 <Ampera> it's just random nothings for no reason
22:25:11 <electrohead> o/
22:25:23 * Ampera hugs electrohead
22:25:25 <Ampera> how are you doing
22:25:45 <electrohead> hey mate
22:25:47 <electrohead> I'm alright, you?
22:26:07 <coppice> the maker workshops give people easy access to a lot of resources they wouldn't otherwise have, and some of those have an interplay with industry that can make them self financing. Like equipping with good CNCs, laser and plasma cutters, etc, which local businesses use and pay for, and the amateurs than have access to
22:29:07 * electrohead waves at coppice
22:30:02 <Ampera> meh
22:30:05 <Ampera> another workday
22:32:51 <Ampera> Sometimes google just need to be given a fucking bitchslap
22:33:04 <Ampera> I search "windows check password age" and every single result is how to check when it expires
22:33:07 <Ampera> ????
22:38:30 <coppice> Ampera: what's this? does your password have to be over 18 to allow you access to porn sites?
22:38:56 <Ampera> no, our corporate passwords expire
22:39:19 <coppice> do you give them a nice funeral?
22:39:20 <Ampera> but because IT is brilliant, there are no reminders when it must be reset whatsoever
22:39:48 <Ampera> usually the nice funeral is hoping that your login token for Teams is still valid, and asking your boss to email IT to reset your password
22:40:13 <Ampera> I'd write myself a sticky note on my work machine, but its CPU is currently pegged to 100%
22:40:50 <coppice> pegged? so you ARE on the porn sites
22:41:19 * Ampera decides not to remove coppice's head from the gutter, shoves him all the way into it instead
22:42:11 <T3sl4> he's certainly put /something/ inside that CPU
22:42:44 <Ampera> This is a modern business class laptop with all nice specs except a dual core i7
22:43:03 <K> the horror
22:43:19 <Ampera> It's not even an ultrabook form factor, it's just a normal size laptop, but with a CPU specced out by a sadist.
22:44:39 <Ampera> The other part is all the immense corporate bloatware they shove on these laptops that make 50% of the RAM and all the CPU go bye bye
22:45:10 <Ampera> the day we leave our internally hosted project management to github completely will be the greatest day ever.
22:46:30 <coppice> Ampera: the amount of crap most corporate notebooks contain is quite depressing. surely they don't need most of the machine's resources just to handle this stuff?
23:55:17 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, did you read which notebook I decided for in the end?
23:55:24 <Ampera> nope
23:55:24 <Ampera> which
23:56:52 <Ysjoelfir> Lenovo Ideapad 5 15ALC in the Metal Body version with a Ryzen 7-5700, 16Gigs RAM, 512GB M.2 SSD, 350nits S-IPS Panel with 100% sRGB colors and the big 70Wh battery.
23:58:00 <Ysjoelfir> test of the 14" model (I got the 15.6") can be found here: https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaPad-5-14ALC05-in-review-Compact-powerful-enduring.540501.0.html
23:58:05 <EEVBot> [Title] - Lenovo IdeaPad 5 14ALC05 in review: Compact, powerful, enduring - NotebookCheck.net Reviews
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