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00:48 <Ampera> getting ready for an away mission to help a friend fix up his home network
01:14 <Ampera> got him a nice passive cooled lab PC for use as a new router, tools, switches, and 1000ft of CAT6
11:51 <Ysjoelfir> nice
11:56 <Ysjoelfir> hope you enjoy that :)
13:19 Join: JVFoxy ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
13:50 <JVFoxy> Heyos, Kuschelpony suggested I'd take a poke in here.
14:15 Quit: TheDude ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
17:16 <Ysjoelfir> mornings JVFoxy
17:21 <JVFoxy> heyos
17:48 <JVFoxy> was talk'n to them about computer design over on another server and suggested I join here.
18:42 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, we alwayws like new joiners :)
20:16 <Kuschelpony> Whinny
20:28 Join: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) to #EEVblog
20:31 <Nothing\> heyo
20:33 <Kuschelpony> welcome here JVFoxy, you will surely find more knowledgeable people here
20:41 <Nothing\> does anyone know how to fix/reset a bulb thermometer?
20:56 <Nothing\> i saw it on cody's lab but i forget exactly how to do it and my one needs it
21:05 <Kuschelpony> hmm,
21:13 <Nothing\> the liquid's all spread out and smeared through the tube
21:17 <Kuschelpony> a classic mercury thermometer where the column has split?
21:22 <Kuschelpony> ah yes
21:29 <Nothing\> alcohol, but yeah
21:42 <Nothing\> i know you swing them and use centrifugal force
21:48 <Kuschelpony> pack it in your hand with the bulb away from you and swing your arm that you get maximum centrifugal force outwards
21:53 <Kuschelpony> yes
21:55 <Nothing\> i just can't remember if you do it so the liquid goes towards the bulb, or away from it
22:04 <Nothing\> ahh okay
22:27 <Nothing\> luckily it has a hole on the top, so i can tie it to a short string and swing it for max force
22:34 <JVFoxy> just noticing the server is... 'hidden'. also webclient off the main site, could'nt connect -shrug- oh well
22:34 <Nothing\> and hope the string doesn't snap
22:47 <Kuschelpony> yep, centrifu8ge it into the bulb
23:02 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, okay that clears that up. Thanks man.
23:11 <Kuschelpony> always love to help
23:28 <JVFoxy> heh
23:39 <Kuschelpony> espically when its forgotten knowledge of encient times that i have from my love to read obscure papers
23:40 <Nothing\> one more thing? would that help the accuracy of a properly working thermometer? or calibrate it to be more accurate? or is it not advised to do on a properly working thermometer?
23:55 <Nothing\> cuz i have a second one which seems to work fine, but without a reference i can't know for certain
23:56 <Kuschelpony> hmm, should make exactly no difference
24:08 <Nothing\> none of my thermometers give the same temperature
24:22 <Ysjoelfir> you should always shake dfown the mercury in old thermometers, I was told
24:43 <Nothing\> Ysjoelfir, yeah i believe that's what cody said too. Which is why i asked.
24:50 <Kuschelpony> the only possible reason why a classic thermomenter (with etched scale) could lose accuracy is when the glass bulb itself deforms, but the material science has figured out which glass to use already in the end of the 1800s
24:51 * Lord_of_nothing feel a little sad
24:57 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
25:02 <Ampera> how are you doing
25:06 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera 
25:08 <Nothing\> i'm good
25:15 <Lartza> Oh is THAT why body thermometers are often shaken o.O
25:15 <Nothing\> french toast is imminent
25:18 <Ampera> nice
25:19 * Ysjoelfir pets Lord_of_nothing
25:22 <Kuschelpony> read: Zeitschrift für Instrumentenkunde
25:27 <Nothing\> Lartza, yeah hey, i never thought of that
25:27 <Lartza> I never really thought about why people do it
25:35 * Lord_of_nothing *is purring*
26:06 <Nothing\> i think if i shook my thermometer, it'd probably shatter from the bending moment it'd produce
26:09 <Nothing\> cuz it's so long
26:16 <Kuschelpony> oops
26:16 <Nothing\> it's at least a foot long
26:30 <Nothing\> but it has a large scale
26:45 <Nothing\> +150c to -50c
26:45 <Lartza> I only have one analog thermometer and it's the one mounted outside to my kitchen window :P
26:47 <JVFoxy> sigh.. coffee cup being empty is imminent for me...
26:53 <Kuschelpony> i have only broken one (alcohol filled) thermomenter the pastr 30 years, and that was by lending it to a student...
27:04 <Nothing\> Lartza, there's a surplus store here that sells all sorts of science equipment
27:09 <Nothing\> especially chemistry stuff
27:11 <Kuschelpony> so only a blue dys stain but nothing serious
27:23 <Nothing\> so i got a legit scientific thermometer from them for like $2
27:31 <Lartza> Nice
27:43 <Kuschelpony> so i am getting half-afk again, looks like the glue is settling to work a bit on my project
27:46 <Nothing\> they also have dental tools, which are awesome for cleaning nooks and cranies of things
28:07 <Lartza> Yeah a toothbrush only gets you so far :P
28:11 <Nothing\> or in the dental tools they have these tweezers with an end that curves 90 degrees and is slightly pointed
28:22 <Kuschelpony> wow, one of the things that i always amazing see is how you have these surplus stores, that has died in germany in somewhere the 80s
28:23 <Nothing\> it's way better for electronics than a straight tweezer
28:40 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, i've honestly never seen one before
28:45 <Lartza> I only know of office surplus stores here
28:52 <Lartza> Wait no not surplus
29:02 <Nothing\> this is just a general surprus store. They carry just about everything
29:04 <Lartza> There's one online army surplus store
29:14 <Lartza> And outdoorsy stuff
29:42 <Lartza> Oh and I guess you'd call the office stores surplus too
29:51 <Nothing\> clothes, stationary, scales, army stuff, electrical components (but only passive), chemistry stuff, dental stuff, scales for weed, bear mace, gas lanterns, you name it
29:54 <Lartza> Used, refurbished office desks etc
29:56 <Kuschelpony> we do have lots of tiny (and often doubtful) army stuff second hand stores, but no general ones
30:13 <Nothing\> Lartza, oh we call those second hand stores here
30:22 <Kuschelpony> generally we have increasing second hand stores
30:29 <Nothing\> a surplus store is one that literally sells surplus goods that other stores couldn't sell
30:34 <Kuschelpony> hmm, i see a major difference between both
30:43 <Nothing\> the stores sell it to them, and then they sell it at a discount
30:50 <Lartza> Yeah I mean the naming is a bit weird
30:55 <Nothing\> indeed
31:01 <Nothing\> i know what you're talking about though
31:01 <Lartza> One office supplier refurbs their own stuff and has an "outlet" store
31:12 <Lartza> But then there are companies who come in and take away your office stuff and sell it
31:14 <Kuschelpony> soo, half-afk for a while
31:15 <Nothing\> second hand stores are great for finding cheap electronics to mess with
31:28 <Lartza> I don't think there are a lot of those either here :(
31:31 <Nothing\> i still wanna find a kid's toy piano or something electric to circuit bend
31:42 <Lartza> Most stuff is auctioned
32:01 <Nothing\> heh i found out today my doctor's german
32:03 <Lartza> And we have flea markets only, no cashies or anything like that
32:10 <Nothing\> cuz i told him my mom's stubborn cuz she's german
32:20 <Nothing\> so he's like "ah so you must have had an oma and opa then"
32:59 <Nothing\> i miss my oma and opa
33:16 <Nothing\> although they both had pretty bad dementia by the time they died so they were gone long before they died
33:34 <Nothing\> and sadly i don't remember much of them before that
34:00 <Nothing\> i just remember my opa always down in his workshop building stuff
34:14 <Nothing\> i wish i'd spent more time learning that stuff from him, or anyone really
34:26 <Nothing\> he was an electrician, so he coulda got me started early
34:39 <Lartza> Yeah my mom's parents died when she was under 30 and my father's mother died when I was around five. I remember her raisin soup, sugar cubes and one specific candy I'd always eat there but not much else.
35:00 <Nothing\> Lartza, you german too?
35:03 <Lartza> Father's father is alive but we're estranged due to an ugly divorce and alcoholism :S
35:12 <Lartza> Nah, Finnish
35:14 <Nothing\> Lartza, hey, you and me both
35:29 <Nothing\> i'm not estranged from my father anymore, i bit my tongue and made good with him
35:35 <Nothing\> but he's still pissing me off
35:36 <Lartza> I mean not my divorce, but my parents
35:42 <Nothing\> right
36:04 <Lartza> My dad says he'll cut ties with his father if me and grandfather meet
36:12 <Nothing\> like i've been msging my dad trying to rebuild our relationship and he seems to have no desire to talk to me, so i gave up
36:23 <Lartza> And my grandfather has an alcohol problem so can't reliably even keep it a secret
36:25 <Nothing\> meanwhile he's going over to my brother's place to spend some time with him
36:34 <Nothing\> he didn't do anything for me for my birthday, as usual
36:43 <Nothing\> but for my brother's birthday, he gave him $50 for amazos
36:44 <Nothing\> amazon
36:51 <Nothing\> same shit i put up with as a kid
37:02 <Lartza> I mean yeah I'm even more estranged from my father, but I've seen my grandfather later than my father
37:08 <Nothing\> i was about ready to tell him to shove it up his ass
37:20 <Lartza> And the bridges are far too burnt down for me to make first contact ever
37:25 <Lartza> To my father
37:32 <Nothing\> and my brother's always popping pills, drinking, constantly fucked up
38:01 <Nothing\> treats my mom like shit, talks shit behind her back, even though she will and does do everything she can to make him happy to the point he's taking advantage of her
38:18 <Lartza> Yeah at least for me the ties are cut to the whole family
38:27 <Lartza> I have a sister and neither of us is in contact with dad's side
38:40 <Nothing\> Lartza, doesn't it make you feel bad not to have a good solid family, though?
38:49 <Lartza> Dad's sister is my godmother but never kept contact
39:07 <Nothing\> like i see these people who have large family gatherings and they're all so close and so open with eachother and i think how badly i wish i had a family like that
39:08 <Lartza> Not really
39:20 <Lartza> I've been close to other people who felt like family, at least before adulthood
39:29 <Nothing\> i mean, i never really thought about it until recently because frankly, i didn't know such a thing existed outside of TV
39:38 <Nothing\> ah
39:40 <Nothing\> i haven't
39:43 <Lord_of_nothing> @Lartza where are you from?
39:49 <Nothing\> i've been shit on even by my closest friends
40:01 <Lartza> I've had those family gatherings, with my godmother and also my mother's new partners
40:09 <Lartza> Lord_of_nothing, Finland
40:16 <Nothing\> like my best friend growing up, he was always a lady's man and always had so many different GF's etc right
40:32 <Nothing\> then he hooked me up with a friend of his gf's, things were going fine
40:37 <Nothing\> until my gf blew him
40:49 <Nothing\> and he tries to say he's not at fault cuz SHE'S the one who blew HIM
40:53 <Lartza> Hell, every summer I sit in a table with my friend's inlaws and other family now XD
40:54 <Nothing\> he didn't do anything
41:03 <Lartza> Sometimes an aunt and an uncle too
41:07 <Nothing\> my first gf and he steals her from me
41:18 <Nothing\> when he had his fucking pick of the litter
41:22 <Nothing\> THEN
41:31 <Nothing\> he has the nerve to get in touch with me 20 years later
41:49 <Nothing\> i think to myself "awesome, i get to reconnect with him and we can hang out some more again"
41:50 <Nothing\> WRONG
42:12 <Nothing\> he invites me over for one night, just long enough to apologize for the GF thing and get me to say i forgive him
42:34 * Ampera hands Nothing a vent book
42:42 <Nothing\> next time i try to make plans, he makes plans, then the very day we were supposed to hang out i call him and he breaks off the plans at the last minute saying he's going to his mom's house
42:54 <Nothing\> didn't even try to make a raincheck
43:03 <Nothing\> so all he wanted was fucking forgiveness
43:52 <Nothing\> my other best friend did the same thing to me, after years of trying to get together with my gf at the time (whom i married eventually) i finally got this friend of mine to let her live in her basement and my gf moved down finally
44:27 <Nothing\> but then my friend starts manipulating my gf, cuz i always had a thing for this friend (she's female) but she friendzoned me hard the whole time
45:40 <Nothing\> now that i've got a serious gf, she starts acting all jealous, trying to break us up, spreading lies and rumours between us, she even went as far as when my gf got pregnant, she gave her an ultimatum that she either get an abortion, or she was getting kicked out. So my gf told everyone, including me for some reason, that she got an abortion.
46:00 <Nothing\> anyways after putting up with this for a few months, we finally got jobs and a place of our own to live and i told my friend off
46:32 <Nothing\> but again, 20 years or so later this friend gets in touch with me and i think the same thing "great, things are different, we can go back to being good friends. This'll be great"
46:50 <Nothing\> but again, she talked to me long enough to get forgiveness out of me, then broke off all contact
47:11 <Nothing\> even though she lived 2 blocks from me, despite us living in a totally different city from where we grew up
47:28 <Nothing\> didn't wanna so much as get a coffee and catch up
47:54 <Nothing\> and now recently i had another old friend of mine who hasn't really wronged me in any way i can think of contact me
48:01 <Nothing\> so naturally my first thought is "fuck no"
48:06 <Nothing\> so i just ignored him
48:29 <Nothing\> but yeah, sorry bout the venting
48:34 <Nothing\> i guess i needed that
48:45 <Nothing\> thanks for being patient
49:28 <Nothing\> lookit that, i got almost the whole screen filled on 4k resolution
49:35 <Nothing\> i feel bad for you guys on mobile devices lol
50:22 <Nothing\> and with that, time to take enough drugs to literally kill several grown men
50:31 <Nothing\> cuz that's how i do it
50:36 <Nothing\> self pity, then self harm
53:18 <Nothing\> right, now then
53:23 <Nothing\> i think a change of topic is in order
53:29 <Nothing\> seeing as i killed the chat
54:31 <Nothing\> or i'll try this new game i got
54:37 <Nothing\> The Dyson Sphere Project
00:01 <JVFoxy> fell into KSP myself
00:26 <JVFoxy> messing with stupid jet idea
01:17 <Lartza> Trying to stay awake ;D Should probably eat...
01:36 <JVFoxy> and i just drained my XL coffee.. >_<
03:25 <Lartza> I'm resisting the urge to just pop more pelmeni in a pot and instead... boil some potatoes
03:47 <Lartza> It's hot so any kind of cooking sounds awful
04:04 <JVFoxy> ya..
04:06 <JVFoxy> been there
04:24 <Lartza> I mean "only" 28.6C but you can never convince me that's not too hot
04:32 <Lartza> (83.5F)
04:39 <JVFoxy> anything over 15c for me is too warm
04:53 <JVFoxy> well warm but.. meh, if I gotta deal, so be it
05:13 <Lartza> Yeah and that's inside with 50% humidity, not outside
05:49 <JVFoxy> about the same here, mostly cuz of the coast (Western Canada)
07:29 <Lartza> I'm 100km from our small sea, so it really is just awfully humid
08:37 <Lartza> Outside it's 62% humidity here, 67% on the coast...
09:31 <JVFoxy> sometimes it'll be around 80-95% here. >_<
43:26 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds horrible
44:12 <JVFoxy> is normal here
44:22 <Ysjoelfir> ew
44:26 <Ysjoelfir> I don't like your "here"
44:29 <JVFoxy> well if not used to it, ya is ew
44:50 <JVFoxy> also don't call it northern rainforest here for nothing
45:03 <Ysjoelfir> oh, rainforest. that could be beautiful
45:05 <Nothing\> heh JVFoxy ksp's a very easy game to get lost in
45:22 <Nothing\> i love those types of games where you can just lose yourself for hours in it
46:06 <Nothing\> man i need to shave my head, but i'm too lazy to be bothered
46:33 <Nothing\> mainly cuz i have to wash my hair, then shave it, then wash it again to get all of the itchy bits of hair out
46:56 <Nothing\> i could skip the first wash, but i don't want my clippers getting all greasey
47:02 <JVFoxy> I was messing around with juno engine plane.. someone over on KSP server was having some ... troubles with a design.
47:49 <JVFoxy> 6 juno's on a tiny body. screaming nearly 700m/s to north pole. only to land at 90/ms, wobble, and then cartwheel of death. explosion woke me up more so eh.. guess its time to get on with my day
48:03 <Nothing\> ah i never made planes in ksp in any serious manner. I played around with it when it was a new feature but i found them much too unwieldy and difficult to build or fly in a balanced manner
48:27 <JVFoxy> very much pilot myself..
48:35 <Nothing\> lol at least it sounds like it was a spectacular failuire
48:46 <JVFoxy> although, school on hold since a few years ago when airfield was dozed over. Then covid messed it all up
48:48 <Nothing\> why not use mechjeb during prototyping?
49:17 <JVFoxy> I wasn't being too serious. I don't use mechjeb..
49:27 <Nothing\> ah
49:29 <Nothing\> yeah me neither
49:43 <JVFoxy> times I am serious with designs, I"ll test fly quite a lot, adjust..
50:02 <Nothing\> i used to, but after not playing it a few years there've been so many updates to ksp and mechjeb that neither is easily usable without consulting the documentation
50:37 <Nothing\> i just got this new game yesterday called Dyson Sphere Project it looks pretty cool
51:20 <Nothing\> it's an open world space game where as far as i can tell, you go to planets and other bodies to mine resources which you use to craft parts that you use to construct a dyson sphere
51:31 <Nothing\> but i've only played it for a few minutes
51:52 <Nothing\> so i could be mistaken. but that's what the jist of the game seems to be
52:27 <Nothing\> you fly this little shit to a planet, exit the ship as a mech and use the mech to gather resources
52:47 <JVFoxy> I've seen dyson sphere game play. I think someone in a video was talking about how it has no real enemies or a kind of death so.. more of a relax-a-thon?
53:12 <Nothing\> that's the sense i got
53:26 <JVFoxy> I wanna try and get Space engineers and Empyrion
53:36 <JVFoxy> trouble is the first one I need better system. Empyrion might play on here
53:39 <Nothing\> space engineers was fun when i tried it
53:49 <JVFoxy> I don't have steam.. so eh..
53:51 <Nothing\> but i tried it like... oh musta been around 10 yeras ago or less
53:54 <JVFoxy> might get it.. ventually
54:00 <Nothing\> Steam's nice
54:07 <Nothing\> i never used to buy games at all
54:27 <Nothing\> But i buy them now because it makes it easier to keep track of updates and install them
54:34 <JVFoxy> I only recently got minecraft... for a server a friend runs
55:16 <Nothing\> and it helps organize the games better. But I bet there's some software that can organize the software or games on your computer in a similar way
55:28 <JVFoxy> Lol.. I built my current machien just so I could KSP back in the early days (read: v0.18 was on friend's laptop. 0.21-0.22 by the time I got my machine running and picked up the game)
55:38 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, I heard they recently made minecraft so everybody has to get a microsoft account to play it
55:58 <JVFoxy> migrating services.. ya
56:04 <JVFoxy> though I've had hotmail for so long..
56:13 <JVFoxy> think its using the same account?
56:25 <Nothing\> but I've got Minecraft on my Switch. So I dunno if that'll be the case for that version or what
56:45 <Nothing\> i'm not huge on minecraft anymore though. I played it too much, I suppose.
56:56 <Nothing\> but I got a few hundred hours out of it
57:23 <Nothing\> i'm just not creative enough or focused enough to make anything creative
57:24 <JVFoxy> not sure.. I have Java.. I played BE on a friend's console as well
57:35 <Nothing\> i love terraria though
57:43 <Nothing\> i absolutely LOVE it
57:58 <Nothing\> and these other 2 terraria like games
58:13 <JVFoxy> I've been building a home on a server. its not a quite as a big thing for me as KSP? There's some other stuff I wanna play with but means newer machine. -sigh, I miss flightsim-
58:29 <JVFoxy> oh... wouldn't mind trying factorio with a friend or few
59:24 <Nothing\> one called Starbound which is like terraria where you're in space and you go from planet to planet to harvest different resources that are uniquely endogenous to that planet with each planet being a whole new map
59:39 <JVFoxy> I also miss a few of the older RTS games, playing multiplayer co-op against AI
00:10 <Nothing\> and then realms of magic which is the same sorta deal, except you get a region map with each square being a new map
00:10 <JVFoxy> not into Warcraft/Starcraft though... woudln't mind Diablo 2 with a friend
00:24 <Nothing\> factorio i found had a lot of potential
00:33 <Nothing\> but i didn't like having to deal with the mobs
00:54 <Nothing\> although now i learn that you can turn mobs off, so... lol
00:56 <JVFoxy> watch'n a few buddies do a playthrough on factorio.. someon accidentally stuffed rocket fuel in the train, it ran over a few of his buddies who weren't expecting it
00:58 * Nothing\ facepalm
01:29 <JVFoxy> bad enough one of them said, you have little notice of the stupid thing coming around as it was
01:30 <Nothing\> that's another thing, I don't really play games with people online
01:37 <JVFoxy> aw ok
01:50 <Nothing\> i got Rust the other day and it seems like there's no option to play it offline
01:53 <JVFoxy> I used to help a net cafe back in late 90's.
02:06 <JVFoxy> also a bit of a Halo fan
02:28 <Nothing\> heh nice
02:34 <Nothing\> now that's real old stuff
03:09 Join: Reg7805 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
03:10 <JVFoxy> I still have some of the games from when they shutdown. One of my fav was Total Annhilation
03:42 <Reg7805> hello everyone
03:48 <JVFoxy> heyos
04:06 <Reg7805> how are yous?
04:09 <Nothing\> hey Reg7805
04:19 <Nothing\> Reg7805, important question before we talk to you
04:31 <Nothing\> you wouldn't happen to be a soccer, would you?
04:37 <Nothing\> or made of mexico
04:41 <JVFoxy> ....
05:34 <Nothing\> i mean, we're not racists here, be we also don't want to be contaminated and assimilated
05:51 <Reg7805> are you talking about football?
05:53 <Nothing\> last thing we need is a room full of soccers
06:00 <Nothing\> yes, football
06:13 <Reg7805> i have no intrest in sports at all
06:25 <Nothing\> the sport where you kick the ball and then try to yell "gooooooooooaaaaaaaalllllllllll" for as long as you can
06:40 <Nothing\> no i'm not asking if you're interested
06:55 <Nothing\> i'm just asking if you're football, or soccer
07:18 <Reg7805> no
07:44 <Nothing\> super!
07:50 <Nothing\> I'm glad to hear it
07:51 <JVFoxy> ... found out Canada is making it in this year
07:57 <Nothing\> in that case, welcome to the channel, friend!
08:06 <Nothing\> in what?
08:48 <JVFoxy> world cup qualifiers
08:49 <JVFoxy> game tomorrow
09:01 <JVFoxy> last time they made to this point was '86?
09:04 <Nothing\> ah I wasn't aware they were on
09:21 <JVFoxy> we play usa on 18th
09:28 <Nothing\> I bet most of Europe goes all ka ka koo koo during the world cup
09:36 <JVFoxy> I didn't know either, till it hit the news earlier this week
10:04 <Reg7805> BBC news is liteally sport now
10:07 <JVFoxy> I've been kind of hoping, but also following Denmark cuz mom's family is from there. Argentina also cuz a art friend down there
10:47 <Nothing\> I AM A SHAPE
10:49 <Nothing\> lalalala
10:54 <Nothing\> I AM A SHAPE
10:56 <Nothing\> lalalala
11:01 <Reg7805> anything intresting happening? (project etc.)
11:16 <JVFoxy> well.. that CPU learning project I've got going
11:26 <JVFoxy> had to tell myself to take a break before my head explodes, get help
11:49 <Reg7805> which type cpu?
12:24 Join: steve30 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
12:24 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o steve30
12:26 <JVFoxy> 8bit
12:38 <JVFoxy> breadboard, but using logisim to learn things quicker
12:56 <JVFoxy> breadboard will be after I get to point I can program things
13:01 <Reg7805> yes, i made my own one a while back.
13:03 <Nothing\> Reg7805, hrm not really anything here. I guess a linear feedback shift register which generates a binary representation of every number between 1 and 2^n where n is how many bits are in the shift register
13:37 <JVFoxy> I know of Ben Eater's videos, kind of what got me started. But also an electronic shop dumping off surpluse due to having to move (ya no thanks to development, they've had to move several times)
14:02 <Nothing\> ben eater's an awesome resource
14:18 <Nothing\> i actually bought a 65c02 from WDC because of him
14:36 <JVFoxy> seen his 'worset gpu' project.. I ended up doing something of my own in a different direction though. Using a bunch of 8x8 LED panels to make a 32x32 display
14:47 <JVFoxy> oh cool.. was considering a 6502
14:55 <JVFoxy> where'd you get from?
15:27 <Reg7805> thats where done my 8 bit pc also, but i built it on a matrix pcb
16:02 <Nothing\> AND a 65C816 development board.
16:23 Quit: Dantali0n ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
16:33 <Nothing\> which, the 65C816 can emulate the 65C02 and even starts up in 6502 emulation mode by default
16:49 Join: Dantali0n ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
17:08 * steve30 returns from a rather busy day
17:26 <Nothing\> and it's the same price for the 65C02 SBC so I figured why not.
17:32 <Reg7805> right i will be here, but i will be working on my opnsense firewall as we speak
18:15 <JVFoxy> nothing\ eh.. how much was the 6502 and where? I'm considering myself, but I'm not sure yet.
23:04 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, one sec, i'll give you link. They have 65C02s which are the CMOS version of the 6502 and 65C816s which is a 16 bit version of the 6502, used in the snes. And some FPGA solutions and what not. But just a second. I'll get you their site
23:27 <Nothing\> it wasn't much though. Less than $10 I think
23:51 <JVFoxy> ok cool.. ya thinking may just bite it and go CMOS. I was hoping TTL but eh...
24:08 <Nothing\> https://wdc65xx.com/shop/
24:09 <EEVBot> [Title] - 403 Forbidden
24:15 <Nothing\> there's the shop of everything they have
24:15 <JVFoxy> a number of people rip me over about switching from TTL to CMOS but eh..
24:30 <Nothing\> they're the only company who still makes new 65XX chips
25:25 <JVFoxy> heh.. the X16 is there
25:32 <Nothing\> https://wdc65xx.com/shop/
25:32 <EEVBot> [Title] - 403 Forbidden
25:39 <Nothing\> oh wait, i already linked
25:44 <Nothing\> but yeah, it's towards the bottom
25:57 <JVFoxy> been trying to figure out what to call my project/board :\
25:59 <Nothing\> and like i said, they also have single board computers
26:11 <rust_collector> these guys have some too: https://wdc65xx.com/shop/
26:12 <EEVBot> [Title] - 403 Forbidden
26:13 <Nothing\> and they have the i/o bus chips
26:25 <Nothing\> rust_collector, that's the same story lol
26:30 <Nothing\> *store
26:36 <rust_collector> oh really? lol
26:49 <Nothing\> really
26:53 <rust_collector> wow!
27:06 <rust_collector> ok, I should go back outside, and do fun things
27:14 <Nothing\> wow spelled upside down is mom
27:18 * steve30 has been out all day
27:24 <Nothing\> it's actually kinda chilly out today-
27:42 <JVFoxy> ... just a development board?
27:54 <rust_collector> it is a nice hot 13c here. and it has been raining a bit on and off all day
28:32 <Nothing\> oh yeah
28:37 <Nothing\> i got the game rust the other day
28:50 <Nothing\> but i haven't bothered playing it cuz it seems like you can only play it online
29:06 <Nothing\> it looks interesting though
31:45 <JVFoxy> hmm.. was hoping to get just the chip..
32:17 <steve30> I think I managed three seperate youtube videos out of today
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35:25 <JVFoxy> ok so.. just development board instead of the chip.. ugh ok I don't know. head is a mess right now.
35:51 <JVFoxy> a part of me wonders if I could just breadboard up a CPU instead of buying one
37:41 <arch> you know how mosfet datasheets say "esd sensitive device"? has anyone here accidentally killed a mosfet just by touchhing it when soldering?
38:00 <arch> i dont use any fancy esd wrist straps or mats, and have yet to kill one by esd
39:23 <Kuschelpony> oh looks like JVFoxy you have found good conversation here
39:49 <JVFoxy> ya trouble is.. I need to take a break, my eyes going crosswise now
39:51 <Kuschelpony> so far thats what i did today https://jabber.de:5281/upload/_7T-Hdy68dgALpTM/Oszir%c3%b6hre.JPG
39:55 <Ysjoelfir> yep. you can leave the Fox here. :)
40:00 <Ysjoelfir> Nice Kuschelpony!
40:31 <arch> what is that, a diy analog scope?
40:34 <JVFoxy> oh.. btw.. speaking of physical projects. Anyone done stuff with punch cards?
40:35 <Kuschelpony> unfortunately all spray paint i had was blue, and no aluminium plate for the operating panel on the right
40:50 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, oh they have just the chip too
40:54 <Nothing\> lemme find it for you
41:00 <Nothing\> i bought 2 of them from this site
41:15 <Nothing\> a 65C02 and a 65C816
41:16 <JVFoxy> nothing\ ok cool
41:18 <Kuschelpony> arch, i also intend to build a scope with another tube in some future, but this is going to be an electrostativ defelcted TV, inspired by like a Hallicrafters54
41:19 <Nothing\> and the board
41:38 <Kuschelpony> or at least a video monitor as we have no analog TV to receive
41:45 <JVFoxy> well source for chip would be nice. I've a friend who's worked with them before, coding wise. Just needs to brush up on things agian, or so they said
42:40 <Kuschelpony> i love this tube specifically for the open space behind the screen, that adds some feeling if i might finish that one day in a shape with open top
42:54 <Kuschelpony> too bad its only 10cm, or more like 9cm useable
43:08 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, oh that's right, I had to buy the chips from a 3rd party vendor. In my case I got them from Mouser. But the site has a list of vendors you can buy them from.
43:24 <arch> the glass is clear, wont that let more xrays pass out?
43:26 <Nothing\> lemme see if i can find that list
43:30 <JVFoxy> oh mouser
43:33 <arch> iirc TV glass is infused with lead oxide
43:35 <Nothing\> the site's not the greatest to navigate
43:55 <Nothing\> arch, yup to prevent the electron beam from frying your DNA
44:15 <Nothing\> and that's part of the reason they're so heavy too, or so I've heard.
44:29 <Kuschelpony> arch, this tube rans only on 2kV so no worries
44:31 <Nothing\> the glass has to be so thick and infused with lead
44:32 <arch> yeah, apparently the lead oxide infusion makes the weight of the tube 25% heavier
44:49 <Nothing\> wow, wouldn't have thought it would be that much.
44:50 <Kuschelpony> this does not even need lead
45:37 <Kuschelpony> if i remember right, the legal limit is 6kV, below that voltage any tube of ordinary glass or metals can not emit x-rays for sure
46:17 <Kuschelpony> above 6kV you need thicker glass and/ore leaded glass and have to proof as manufacturer that the tube is either safe or needs external shielding
46:19 <arch> i wonder if those xenon flash tubes from disposable cameras output xrays if you trigger the tube with 6kv+ pulse
46:38 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, have you found anything yet? cuz tbh i'm having a hell of a time finding that list of vendors i was talking about
46:45 <Nothing\> this site is atrocious to navigate
46:52 <Kuschelpony> a second limit is above 30kv where the X-Rays really penetrate stuff, and then active HV limit and other stuff is mandatory
47:07 <Nothing\> it's a wonder i managed to find it in the first place when i ordered it myself
47:09 <Kuschelpony> arch, unlikely as they have no vacuum
47:18 <arch> ahh good point
47:25 <Nothing\> but you could probably find it if you search mouser
47:35 <DHess_US> How do they pulse x-ray tubes?
47:42 <arch> Kuschelpony, what about if you passed HV through vacuum tubes?
47:47 <Kuschelpony> there needs to be a lot of stuff happen to create x-rays in gasses, exotic stuff like runaway electrons
47:49 <arch> like a triode
47:55 <Kuschelpony> arch, then you DO make x-rays
47:59 <arch> cool :D
48:05 <Kuschelpony> uhm, i think not
48:09 <JVFoxy> ok here we go, speaking of physical projects. A little something I did manage to get working. I had a few ideas what I could use it for but since my CPU project, its just kind fo been waiting; https://imgur.com/a/GYX7Dke
48:10 <EEVBot> [Title] - Imgur: The magic of the Internet
48:19 <Kuschelpony> btw: it even happens with ordinary vacuum lightbulbs
49:04 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, i found a link to buy it on mouser
49:06 <Nothing\> https://www.mouser.ca/ProductDetail/Western-Design-Center-WDC/W65C02S6TPG-14?qs=opBjA1TV903lvWo9AEKH5w%3D%3D
49:23 <Nothing\> i believe i paid $20 shipping
49:34 <Kuschelpony> thats the point when tesla coild or other HV experiments can get potentially nasty, when someone takes a vacuum lightbulb and enjoys the greenish fluorescence on the glass
49:39 <Nothing\> a bit pricy. But worth it for a one time cost.
49:40 * arch gets to work building a triode xray device to irradiate bugs
49:56 <arch> soon mutant bugs will take over the world, muahaha
49:58 <Kuschelpony> gas filled lightbulbs where you see grey-yellow-viole streamers instead are safe
50:32 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, oh, the link i linked you to is their canadian site. You may have to change that
50:33 <Nothing\> .
50:35 <JVFoxy> well shipping can be a bit 'meh' but just the fact the chip is still on the market helps
50:48 <arch> i wonder, if standard filament lightbulb which had its filament burnt out, would output xrays if the voltage was high enough
51:01 <Nothing\> JVFoxy, oh yeah, like the date code on my chip is... lemme see
51:04 <JVFoxy> lol.. canadian site? No its perfect (west coast Canada here)
51:43 <Kuschelpony> arch, as said it depends on vacuum or gas filling
51:56 <Kuschelpony> in vacuum yes they can do
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52:20 <Nothing\> date code is 1947
52:26 <Nothing\> so they're still making them
52:30 <Nothing\> brand new
53:02 <JVFoxy> eh.. '47 dies? Isn't the ealier versions have some sort of addressing hardware bug?
53:17 <JVFoxy> got fixed in the most recent versions?
53:25 <Nothing\> where the date code on the nmos 6502 i have is 4135
53:28 <Nothing\> lol
53:42 <JVFoxy> uh.. ok no idea how to read that
53:50 <Nothing\> you don't, it's fake lol
54:02 <Nothing\> it's a counterfeit chip and they apparently don't understand datecodes
54:19 <JVFoxy> wait.. counterfeit from mouser or this from some other place?
54:40 <Nothing\> like my 74HC595 shift registers where the TI logo is a picture of the whole united states
54:49 <Nothing\> ineastad of just texas
55:06 <JVFoxy> lol
55:11 <Nothing\> no no no these came from aliexpress
55:15 <JVFoxy> mm ok..
55:28 <JVFoxy> long as mouser has the most recent..
55:32 <Nothing\> like 99% of my chips have come from them
56:09 <JVFoxy> saw a video, someone testing a vintage CPU with a russian made one, specks were exact.
56:32 <Nothing\> was the russian one brownish green?
57:34 <Nothing\> a lot of russian chips, especially the logic ones have this weird brownish green color. Like elephant poop
57:59 <JVFoxy> Soviet K1810VM88 VS Intel 8088 Benchmark
58:41 <JVFoxy> soviet one was white body with silver metal cover
58:51 <Nothing\> ah
58:58 <JVFoxy> video over on youtube
59:05 <Nothing\> there's actually a really great 8086 emulator for windows
59:51 <JVFoxy> I still have a PC10-III.. I keep meaning to pull from storage and check over things, give it a fire up
59:55 <Nothing\> you have to pay for it, but there's a crack on bt
00:07 <JVFoxy> last check was mid 2010s, was still working then
00:11 <Nothing\> okay now i must leave
00:17 <Nothing\> i have to return some video tapes
00:23 <JVFoxy> lol.. same.. and thanks for info
00:27 <Nothing\> ta ta
00:36 <Nothing\> yeah np man
00:42 <Nothing\> gl finding that chip
01:00 <Nothing\> if you can't find it there, they do sell them on aliexpress but like i said, they're questionable
01:19 <JVFoxy> no its ok
01:33 <Nothing\> plus they're just the NMOS versions instead of CMOS how it sholud be
01:41 <JVFoxy> talk to my friend about it.. maybe get a couple of them
01:50 <Nothing\> that's a good idea
01:53 <JVFoxy> ...
01:58 <JVFoxy> sad its not TTL but anyways :P'
02:03 <Nothing\> that way if you accidentally fry one, you've still got em
02:16 <JVFoxy> mind you I think Eater does TTL maybe on his board? Just with the hybrid chips in between?
02:46 <JVFoxy> eh well.. we'll see. couple of budies might be interested.. don't know where it coudl go
02:49 <JVFoxy> anycase.. lates
02:58 <Nothing\> on his specific 6502 tutorials, he uses the CMOS versions that we've been trying to find
03:14 <Nothing\> that 65C02
03:55 <JVFoxy> ya.. one I'm also looking for
04:24 <Kuschelpony> Commodore PC10
04:29 <Kuschelpony> i also have two of them :)
05:25 <JVFoxy> (still sour dad pulled games off it near the end)
05:43 <Nothing\> where 6502 is the nmos version, the 65C02 is the CMOS version
05:58 <JVFoxy> not exactly sure what the diff between nmos and cmos is..
06:03 <JVFoxy> but we can go over it later if need
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11:31 <Kuschelpony> oops too late
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53:56 <Ysjoelfir> Mrs. fiancee wants to watch a documentary about furry(...ism?). LEts see.
54:38 <Kuschelpony> i worry for you
54:47 <Ysjoelfir> why? XD
56:36 <Kuschelpony> it always makes me nervous when womans come with "you have to ...." leading to weird stuff
57:40 <Ysjoelfir> lol, after 17 minutes she was like "ok, lets watch something different, thats to emotional"
58:02 <Kuschelpony> grins
58:25 <Kuschelpony> at least you avoided that what i worried :)
58:31 <Ysjoelfir> XD
00:48 <Kuschelpony> i see it often leading in weird ways because "Furry" is a very broad umbrella, with the most common thing that we have some kind of animal soul charakters and be creative people
01:53 <Ysjoelfir> it was supposed to be a documentary, showing all niches of it, from the beginning to... well, all tings?
02:43 <Kuschelpony> im pretty sure i dont know all myself
03:11 <steve30> That's my gay pride video almost done. I've done well to get that edited today.
13:05 <Ysjoelfir> nice steve :D
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37:22 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: the Down The Rabbit Hole ep was pretty good i thought
40:19 <Ysjoelfir> was it?
40:33 <rust_collector> no
40:37 <Ysjoelfir> oh, ok
54:56 <steve30> I'm off to bed
54:59 <steve30> good night
55:06 <rust_collector> YAAAY!
55:08 <rust_collector> good night
55:22 <Ysjoelfir> have enjoys steve
50:01 <Ysjoelfir> eev...... where is the bot?
50:14 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead! what time is it at your place? the bot is dead so I can't ask it
50:17 <rust_collector> I am not telling
50:33 <rust_collector> I mean I don't know
52:21 <steve30> i can't sleep
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52:37 * Ysjoelfir hugs the steve
52:37 <rust_collector> neighbor kid was eating a bun with raisins... I told him raisins is my favourite kind of insect. that was pretty fun
52:50 <Ysjoelfir> lol rusty :D
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07:33 <electrohead> *poof*
07:40 <Ysjoelfir> woah!
07:40 <rust_collector> oof
51:12 <Ysjoelfir> oi rust_collector, I wonder... have you ever seen one of the 700/900 Volvos with one of those roof racks AND the.... erm... rail thingies at once? I mean those roof rails that run from front to back where you mount standard roof thingies onto. I read that its possible to mount a roof rack while having the rails mounted, but I also read reports that it did barely not fit.
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16:12 <AlfBaz> good morning folks
23:12 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir some racks are clamped to the rails? but you can get the "standard roof thingies" in tall roof van size...so... you get what you buy
23:59 <Ysjoelfir> This one is supposed to be original Volvo, so I thought you might have seen more of them than I would, considered the location you are in ^^
24:21 <rust_collector> well, that would have been decades ago, so...
25:05 <Ysjoelfir> well, true.
25:53 <rust_collector> I was just out in the garage, trying to tidy it up a bit. as usual, it is getting there, but it certainly does not look like it
26:09 <Ysjoelfir> XD I know what you mean
26:43 <rust_collector> and I grabbed all the little hose clamps from old fuel rails and such, and threw the rails out
28:17 <rust_collector> a few engine harnesses, from some forgotten cars...
28:31 <rust_collector> it looks worse outside now, but inside too
28:32 <Ysjoelfir> put them all to ebay! :D
31:10 <rust_collector> weeeelll. no. I don't want to pay to get rid of them, AND have to deliver them
31:32 <Ysjoelfir> heh :D Thats a good point
32:15 <AlfBaz> Been sitting here in my car waiting for a covid test
32:23 <rust_collector> sounds fun
32:29 <AlfBaz> only 4 cars in front of me
32:44 <AlfBaz> head burried in phone
33:11 <AlfBaz> just looked up, there must be like 50 cars behind me :o
34:24 <rust_collector> you can drive to the back of the line, if you want
34:27 <AlfBaz> rust_collector, funner than work:P
34:50 <AlfBaz> a bit to cold for that
34:56 <rust_collector> uh
35:15 <rust_collector> what sort of open carriage do you drive?
35:29 <AlfBaz> a shit lancer
35:41 <rust_collector> they came with heaters, iIrc
35:49 <AlfBaz> lol
36:44 <AlfBaz> the horses dont like it
36:57 <rust_collector> dads parents has had lancers since... uhm, at least the mid 80s
37:35 <rust_collector> they buy a new one every 2-3 years.
38:03 <rust_collector> they are all either silver-grey, or a weird beige
39:15 <AlfBaz> done :)
39:48 <rust_collector> I have still not had a test
56:59 <Reg7805> question > has anybody done letsencrypt CA on openvpn in pfsense or opnsense? (how did it workout)
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02:21 <Halcyon> Morning all
02:29 * T3sl4 pelts Halcyon with wildberries
02:37 <T3sl4> okay, i might've had two handfuls worth this time
02:57 <Halcyon> Yummy
03:00 <Halcyon> I can make jam
04:15 <T3sl4> also lots of mulberries around, make pie too
04:53 <Halcyon> I feel like pancakes or pikelets now
05:04 <Halcyon> With maple syrup and jam
07:23 <T3sl4> good idea
08:00 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
08:06 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
08:23 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon
08:24 <T3sl4> Ampera!
08:33 <Halcyon> I'm waking up
08:37 <Halcyon> How are you?
08:37 * Ampera banishes T3sl4 to cracker barrel
08:47 <Ampera> going to aforementioned restaurant
08:50 <T3sl4> ew, crap cheese
09:05 <rust_collector> cracker barrel
09:27 <rust_collector> that sounds like the police truck they blew up
09:37 <Halcyon> We have that here, it's average cheese
10:12 * T3sl4 runs Ampera over with a wheel of wisconsin cheddar
10:51 * Ampera bitchslaps T3sl4 with a country fried steak
11:18 <Ampera> installed a new router and some other random network and computer stuff for a friend
12:24 <Halcyon> Fun
12:38 <rust_collector> that is mean. But I like the idea of installing random network stuff
18:12 <Reg7805> and IOT crap on vlan 69
19:19 <T3sl4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubus_occidentalis
19:20 <EEVBot> [Title] - Rubus occidentalis - Wikipedia
20:00 <Ampera> I've yet to configure VLANs on my network
20:19 <Ampera> will probably explore it for certain devices when I get my new router going
20:47 <Reg7805> what kind of router did you buy?
20:59 <Ampera> A ROCKPro64
21:19 <Ampera> or was that a RockPRO64
21:23 <Ampera> one of those
21:37 <Ampera> need to print a case for it
22:12 <Reg7805> did you try 10gbe nic on it?
22:33 <Ampera> No, there's no point for a router
22:41 <Ampera> I have a quad gigabit broadcom NIC
23:47 <Reg7805> whats the power consumption like?
24:02 <Ampera> I think I'll leave the onboard realtek NIC unoccupied for future CARP usage
24:04 <Ampera> no clue
24:18 <Halcyon> You're CARP Ampera
24:25 <rust_collector> not much worse than a hotdog cooker
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24:50 <Ampera> considering I have about 1kw of server in the basement, it can't be enough to care about
25:28 <Halcyon> Mmm what should I do today
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25:55 <rust_collector> trim some small bushes in the neighborhood
26:12 <rust_collector> or go fishing in some place with fish
26:13 <Halcyon> That's very random rust_collector
26:32 <rust_collector> eh, it is a thing you can do
26:38 <Reg7805> just curius thats all, my electric in UK is not cheap
26:42 <Halcyon> That's right
26:51 <Halcyon> Reg7805, how much do you guys pay for power
26:51 <Halcyon> ?
27:26 <rust_collector> UK power is cheap, it is just that everything else over there is even cheaper
28:04 <Reg7805> £0.19 per kWh
28:17 <Halcyon> That's quite expensive
29:05 <Reg7805> I run IBM x3650 m4 server which cost around £270 a year, which is a lot for me
29:29 <Halcyon> I pay a little over what would be £0.09 pounds (AUD$0.1673) per kWh at all times apart from peak time, which is between 1600-2000hrs Monday-Friday
30:31 <Reg7805> and they still want to rise the prices more (f*ck)
30:56 <Halcyon> Ours seem to be coming down for some reason, maybe the market is more competitive, I don't know
31:44 <Reg7805> Intresting, can it be solar, is brining down the prices?
31:52 <Halcyon> Possibly, I'm not sure
32:22 <Halcyon> I've just switched over to a time of use tariff, so I pay more during the peak time, but I can offload almost all of that usage over to battery
33:14 <Reg7805> I would love to have solar, but no sun really and i live in apartment
33:38 <T3sl4> hmm. i wonder if i soak my fingers in soda, they'll turn blue
33:46 <T3sl4> (as in sodium carbonate, a base)
34:02 <Halcyon> Why? What's on your fingers T3sl4 ?
34:09 <rust_collector> I would love to see someone setting up a solar system in an underground parking garage
34:15 <T3sl4> black raspberry stains :P
34:20 <Halcyon> Hahaha
34:35 <T3sl4> such anthocyanins, very purple, much wow
34:36 <Reg7805> solar roadways lol
34:59 <rust_collector> solar subway. yes
35:44 <rust_collector> Ok, I am not sure if I want to be awake. good night
35:55 <Halcyon> Night rust_collector
35:56 <T3sl4> i wonder how much power you could generate in a "solar subway" through granite or other moderately radioactive rock
36:03 <Reg7805> good night rust_collector
36:31 <T3sl4> have a berry good night
36:39 <Reg7805> put lights in the solar subway lol
37:15 <Halcyon> I might tidy my office today
37:19 <Halcyon> It's a bit of a shitfight
37:59 <Reg7805> engineers never tidy their office :)
38:38 <Halcyon> I'm not an engineer though :P
38:47 <Halcyon> I'm just a messy boy
39:23 <Reg7805> but you do electronics?
39:35 <Reg7805> if so the same applies :)
39:54 <Halcyon> Kind of
40:05 <Halcyon> More IT then electronics
40:21 <T3sl4> Halcyon is not an engineer.
40:23 <Ampera> there's a reason they call em pigs
40:41 <Halcyon> I said that T3sl4
40:57 <Ampera> he's an engiqueer
41:25 <Reg7805> i cant even sleep on my bed without cables and pcbs getting in the way
41:33 <Halcyon> I fall into that weird category in that I'm not a civilian, but I also rarely perform "front-line" duties anymore. It's like being in Army but working in signals.
42:27 <Ampera> no it's more like being in the Army, but being an assistant recruiter
42:52 <Halcyon> Aren't recuiters normally civilian personnel? I don't know much about the army
43:13 <Ampera> not that I'm aware, electrohead might know
43:33 <Halcyon> I sent him a message this morning but he's being a little bitch and not replying
43:39 <Halcyon> I assume he's working :P
52:13 * Halcyon licks Ampera
03:58 * Ampera bitchslaps Halcyon with country fried porkchops of my meal's past
04:13 <Halcyon> Mmmm :)
04:42 <Halcyon> I feel like baking today
04:45 <Halcyon> I might make a cake
06:04 <Ampera> I feel like sleeping today
07:25 <Halcyon> Oh, I swapped my old Intel NUC in the living room with a RPi4
07:35 <Halcyon> It works soooo much better. 4K stuff actually plays properly now
14:19 <Halcyon> https://www.reddit.com/r/homelab/comments/ofkw11/gigabit_router_was_only_hitting_100mb_diagnosis/
14:23 <EEVBot> [Title] - Gigabit router was only hitting 100Mb. Diagnosis: Cat8 cable : homelab
17:10 <Ampera> nice
18:53 <DHess_US> haha
23:48 <Halcyon> Back shortly, just updating the router
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39:41 <Halcyon> I really want a rackmounted NTP server with the big time display on the front
52:43 <Reg7805> Crap, opnsense does not tls-crypt in the gui, need to mess around custom/advanced options
53:04 <Halcyon> I'm curious Reg7805, why did you choose opnsense over pfsense?
53:46 <Reg7805> I do use pfsense and everyting is working fine, but I like to try diffrent stuff aswell
53:57 <Halcyon> Ah fair enough
54:16 <Reg7805> and i learn stuff
54:21 <DHess_US> I've been trying to get opnsense to work but have had problems with DNS.
54:43 <DHess_US> opnsense supports some things which pfsense will likely never support
54:54 <Reg7805> I just use the unbound direct to root servers
55:04 <Reg7805> interface is much nicer
55:14 <DHess_US> I think netgate is using it as a competitive advantage.
56:51 <Reg7805> in pfsense first i was looking for the reboot and halt system for 10min, turns out they put in diagnostics
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58:26 <Halcyon> Reg7805, yeh it's a bit of an odd place to put it
58:48 <Reg7805> documentaion on pfsense is way better (in my opinion)
59:54 <Reg7805> i think opnsense still needs some more catch up to do
00:09 <DHess_US> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E577LPzWQAg8wAG?format=jpg&name=small
00:32 <Reg7805> when i first done the clean setup, the web gui was also on the WAN side
01:20 <DHess_US> Huh? That is not suppose to happen.
01:26 <Reg7805> the opnsense had a setting which listened on all interfaces
01:35 <DHess_US> But on by default?
01:52 <Reg7805> yes
01:57 <DHess_US> There should be an anti-lockout rule on the LAN interface, but all incoming connections blocked on WAN.
02:00 <Reg7805> it was a clean setup
02:08 <DHess_US> weird
02:55 <Reg7805> i also find reddit post also > https://www.reddit.com/r/OPNsenseFirewall/comments/ofgiyt/webgui_reachable_via_wan/
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05:24 <Reg7805> what kind of dns setup are you using DHess_US (DoT or DoH, or root servers) ?
07:48 <Reg7805> Also I apologize for my bad english and writing skills.
08:13 <DHess_US> Whatever the default setup on opnsense is.
08:28 <DHess_US> It has been weeks since I gave up trying to figure out why it doesn't work properly.
08:37 <DHess_US> The results made no sense.
08:57 <Reg7805> root servers on unbound is the default
10:53 <Reg7805> well i think both firewalls have their ups and downs, I do like pfblocker :)
12:47 <Reg7805> I will just keep using pfsense as primary firewall for now, still not ready opnsense
16:22 <Reg7805> anyways, Good night everyone, time for bed
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46:58 <Ampera> I actually gave opnsense a look today
47:19 <Ampera> and immediately kicked it to the curb when it failed to do two things: ZFS and EFI booting
47:48 <Halcyon> I need to go buy some vegetables for Jerry
47:54 <Ampera> as much as pfsense is made by absolute classless cunts that degrade the heart and soul of FOSS, that's just an instant fail on opnsense's part
49:12 <Ampera> unfortunately pfSense seemed to fail on EFI booting, but that's just a common FreeBSD. For some reason, unlike FreeBSD, it actually failed to write an EFI boot variable at all, instead of just not activating it
50:05 <jaymax> opnsense? more like nonsense amirite?
51:14 <Halcyon> Eh, some people like opnsense, but it lacks some of the more advanced features.
51:23 <Halcyon> I just like to ask why
52:31 <Ampera> I don't like either of them. pfSense has the issue of being distant from FreeBSD, but OPNSense is even worse, completely throwing away a perfectly decent installer for one that can't do ZFS, or EFI
42:19 <Halcyon> I don't mind it being slightly different to FreeBSD. pfsense is a really mature product and is suitable even for large enterprises.
42:54 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to start tidying my office
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50:43 <steve30> i just put fish and chips in the oven
50:57 <Halcyon> I just had fish too Steve
51:00 <Halcyon> It was nummy
55:35 <steve30> I'm just going through yesterday's videos
02:11 <Halcyon> I'm watching pizza videos
04:34 <hsn> i wish i was a pizza
04:40 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEV1owoLdFU
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04:46 <Halcyon> Definitely going to try this one
07:47 <Ysjoelfir> lol, great point landing. disconnected just when I wanted to say mornings. so.... again:
07:48 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
08:34 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir :D
09:18 <Ysjoelfir> So, my beloved electrohead was working yesterday, shame on him xD So I have to annoy Ampera or you with my final Notebook decision.
09:46 <Halcyon> Mmmm ?
13:47 <Ysjoelfir> I got that job, so I will be traveling with the train A LOT in the following months until mrs. fiancee will move with me. While I wait for that and search a flat I will live in a small one room apartment and I will not take my big PC with me. So I need a device for that.
14:24 * steve30 drops a thinkpad on Ysjoelfir 
17:51 <Halcyon> What's your budget/requirements?
19:36 <Ysjoelfir> I was searching back and forth for several days now, researched what will be good for my price, kind of robust and kind of fast. I looked at Thinkpads as well, steve30, but they are too expensive and interestingly the one I kind of decided for was always rated way above the modern thinkpads
20:01 <Halcyon> Ordinarily, I would highly recommend the Thinkpads, but you do pay for them
20:17 <Halcyon> Lenovo generally are quite good, even at the lower consumer end of the market
21:33 <Halcyon> If I didn't buy a Lenovo myself, I'd strongly be looking at the System76 laptops https://system76.com/laptops
21:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - Laptops - System76
21:41 <Halcyon> Particularly if you're a Linux user
22:36 <steve30> My thinkpads were scrap ones which got donated to me :)
24:30 <steve30> Halcyon, did you see my gay pride video?
24:35 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon: I got my budget up to 850€ from initial 700. Requirements: Should be able to play old games like skyrim (than it'll be fast enough for all I do), 16GB ram minimum, 256GB SSD minimum, battery should last while doing office for some hours, despite me being around a mains plug more or less all the time. Screen size between 14 and 17 inch. I was undecided between the Probook 455 G7 or G8 and the Ideapad 5 15ALC, which i
24:35 <Ysjoelfir> one I will get now. Yay or Nay?
24:35 <Halcyon> I haven't no
24:54 <Ysjoelfir> steve30: I would love to have your sponsors ;P
25:08 * Ysjoelfir has never even heard of system76 o.o
25:25 <steve30> system76 look good
25:25 <Halcyon> You pretty much can't go wrong with Lenovo
25:43 <steve30> My thinkpads are early 2000s models but are still quite nice :)
25:55 <Halcyon> I'd be careful with Dell. Their Latitude line have issues with thermal management
25:58 <steve30> Halcyon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IEsGwpUWoY
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26:27 <Halcyon> I like how you pronounce your town "Rotherm"
26:27 <Halcyon> I
26:37 <Halcyon> I'd have said "Rother-em"
27:20 <steve30> Americans pronounce it Rother-Err-Hairm
27:23 <steve30> *Roth
27:41 <Ysjoelfir> Well, the cheaper lenovo ones are supposed to be pretty flimsy and fragile as far as I researched. But the Ideapad 5 Series has a full aluminium chassis, good thermal properties and an insane battery life of 14 hours in office use with WLAN oO Thats basically what sold me, good price, fast octacore ryzen, 16GB ram, 512GB SSD and 15.6" screen
27:59 <Halcyon> Yep
29:22 * steve30 pets his 4kg murder-weapon-grade thinkpad :p
29:29 <Halcyon> I still don't fully understand the need to protest gay pride Steve?
29:36 <Halcyon> If it's anything like here, no one gives a crap
29:50 <Halcyon> And that's a good thing. It's so normal that it
29:55 <Halcyon> it's no longer "cool"
30:26 <Ysjoelfir> and having an RX Vega thing GPU it should be pretty "gameable" as well. in reviews they played most stuff up until 2019 in high details, so.... that thing will be faster than my PC right now, lol
30:46 <Halcyon> I haven't heard anything particularly negative about the Ideapad's
30:57 <Halcyon> They seem to be a good unit
32:12 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, I still kinda miss my good old IBM Thinkpad with its 66MHz Pentium. That thing was cute :D
32:37 <Ysjoelfir> So I read that as a yay, Halcyon? Good, I'll order it than.
32:44 <Halcyon> Yeh, I would
35:24 <Ysjoelfir> Its a bit of a shame that the Probooks are - for the same price - a bit slower (G7) or unavailable until October (G8), as I somehow prefered their looks. But meh, I am happt that I finally decided. Always a Problem for me, too much to choose from with just little differences...
43:36 <Ysjoelfir> oh, I also decided to finally buy a Software that I used for ages,,, erm, totally legal, of course, with a license from... a friend.
43:43 <Ysjoelfir> I feel good now, supporting that guy
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17:38 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder where that lemon guy is hiding
18:49 <steve30> I made it into someone's twitter photo
18:50 <steve30> https://twitter.com/StrathdeeNathan/status/1413840230818455556/photo/1
19:09 <Ysjoelfir> heh, nice! :D
19:11 <Ysjoelfir> its the steve!
20:03 <Ysjoelfir> you should comment (I dunno if one can do that on tweedler?) with your video and something like "Yep, I agree! Watch this if you want to know what that sexy guy there was recording!"
22:13 <Halcyon> Nice butt Steve :P
22:22 <steve30> i think you can comment on twitter, but i don't have an account
23:21 <Ysjoelfir> Then Halcyon has to do it, he surely has that :D
23:51 <Halcyon> I don't have a personal account, only one for my business
24:04 <Halcyon> I don't think "The guy in the pink is cute" would be professional :P
24:04 <Ysjoelfir> That sounds perfectly fine? also: fuuuuck, the left half of my body, including my left ball, still hurts like hell after the 5G activation yesterday.
24:10 <Ysjoelfir> no?
24:40 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, maybe it's just blue balls? Go jerk off
26:06 <steve30> They actually posted this: https://twitter.com/shefagainstpb/status/1413774811529203714
26:38 <steve30> TBH I was hoping to catch a policeman for a chat/interview but there wasn't a single policeman to be seen!
28:03 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon: Nope, its from bill gates' nanobots. had that the first time as well, but not that strong.
28:09 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, is the police that bad in uk?
28:30 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, I know you have some strange laws, like its illegal to walk around with a butterknife, but.... is it THAT bad?
29:54 <steve30> In the grand scheme of things, I'd say they are decent, but you do have to be aware of your rights
30:04 <steve30> And there is no legal obligation to speak to them.
30:19 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok.
30:40 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, make sure the second shot is in the other arm
30:42 <Halcyon> Even it out :P
30:50 <Ysjoelfir> that was the first one
30:51 <Ysjoelfir> erm
30:52 <Ysjoelfir> second
30:56 <Halcyon> Oh right
31:07 <Halcyon> Is your Wifi faster now?
31:32 <steve30> There was actually a recent case where the police wanted to give someone a Covid fine, but couldn't because he refused to give his name and address, so he got arrested. The court found that he had no legal obligation to 'help' the police by giving his name and address.
31:33 <Ysjoelfir> No, but I regularely stick to the metal doorframe when I walk past it
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31:53 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds reasonable, steve?
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32:34 <Halcyon> steve30, that's backwards
32:51 <Halcyon> If police have a lawful power to demand your name and address, and you refuse, then you should be arrested
33:13 <Halcyon> Police aren't in the business of just going "Oh, no worries mate, you broke the law, but we'll let you just get away with it"
33:34 <Halcyon> But, the court decision highlights a failing in your legislation
33:42 <steve30> Generally that's true, but it depends on exactly what power. Sometimes laws are not very well written.
33:49 <Halcyon> It seems that way
34:18 <Halcyon> For example, if you are driving a car, police have the power to demand certain details from you, if you refuse, you are comitting an offence. I'm sure it's the same there.
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35:22 <Halcyon> Then you take the flip side of the argument, the public expect police to arrest and charge criminals who break the law, but if they aren't equipped with the laws to do so, then people get fed up that "nothing is being done"
36:44 <steve30> exactly
37:38 <Halcyon> That person who was arrested and charged for failing to supply details shouldn't have been let off
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38:22 <Halcyon> (In my opinion)
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51:35 <Ysjoelfir> why the hell can't I find any fucking datasheet on the lenovo website!? why is their whole website only a shop??
54:19 <steve30> Halcyon, i'm not sure if he had actually comitted a crime in the first place. Its possible the police got it wrong, which may be why he challanged them by refusing to give the details.
54:24 <steve30> I can't remember the specifics.
57:00 <Halcyon> Quite possibly
57:06 <Halcyon> In which case, fair enough
57:16 <Halcyon> I'd have to see the court transcript
57:46 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, what are you after?
02:58 <Ysjoelfir> want to know if the Ideapad 5 15ALC05 has a free M.2 Slot. Found a review for the 14" version which has supposedly 2 M.2 slots, but I can't find any reviews or inside pics of the 15" version with Ryzen 7-5, only with Ryten 5-4, which has PROBABLY a pretty different mainboard
03:09 <Ysjoelfir> but the lenovo website doesn't even KNOW that model
03:13 <Halcyon> Hmmm
03:47 <Ysjoelfir> its like "oh, we have 10 of that in stock (I don't care)" - click on that - "Oh, we have none of that, but those are the alternatives! (Ryzen 5-4 models)"
04:04 <Halcyon> Try the online chat
04:32 <Ysjoelfir> where is that?
04:37 <Halcyon> *shrug*
04:43 <Halcyon> Lenovo AU had an online chat thingo
04:54 <Halcyon> You might have to disable ad blockers or something to see it?
07:26 <Ysjoelfir> its only available monday to friday. great
07:37 <Halcyon> Oh that's right, it's the weekend :P
07:39 <Ysjoelfir> ah fuck it, I buy that thing now and don't bother to add more memory
07:51 <Ysjoelfir> erm, disk space
08:01 <Ysjoelfir> memory is not interchangeable on that one anyways
09:06 <Halcyon> No, on some of the higher spec models they are
09:25 <Ysjoelfir> a bit irritated that that thing doesn't have a kensington lock thing as well (seriously, I always thought those are just some gimmicks, but traveling on train might be a legit use for that).
09:30 <Halcyon> On my P1 the HDD's and RAM are all socketed
09:31 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but not on the ideapad series
09:49 <Ysjoelfir> ram is soldered and either 8 or 16 gigs. HDDs are socketed
09:54 <Halcyon> Kensington lock? People still use those?
10:22 <Ysjoelfir> I saw it in use on the train last week several times. seems usefull if you want to go for a pee and not carry your laptop with you
10:28 <Halcyon> I reckon I used one, once in my entire life, and it was more so my collegues didn't swipe stuff off my desk :P
11:07 <Ysjoelfir> lol
24:39 <Ysjoelfir> Has someone experience with a trackball mouse?
25:04 <Halcyon> It's been a while, but I've used them
25:07 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if I should order one with the notebook, could be usefull while traveling as I don't like touchpads
27:44 <coppice_> Ysjoelfir: here's a clue: early notebooks used track balls. Then someone implemented a touchpad, and everyone found they were a big improvement.
28:26 <Ysjoelfir> so you would say "stay away as far as possible"?
28:57 <Halcyon> :D
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28:57 <Watcher> Hey
28:57 <Halcyon> Hey Watcher
28:57 <Watcher> whast up
28:57 <Halcyon> Not much, how about you?
28:58 <steve30> I need to go out with my video camera today and its forecast rain
28:58 <steve30> actually, the forecast has changed to 'OK' but its foggy out
28:58 <Watcher> it is the first official day of the weekend and very early so also not much
28:58 <Halcyon> Weekends are always good
28:58 <Halcyon> I'm making Korean fried chicken burgers for dinner tonight
29:02 <Ysjoelfir> I actually always liked the little red nipple on my old Pentium 66 IBM Thinkpad. that worked good.
29:35 <coppice_> a few people seem to like them, but most don't. So, I'd say give one a cautious try if you can
30:26 <Ysjoelfir> hmm... the shop where I buy the notebook has a logitech one for 35€. I might give it a try
30:45 <coppice_> thinkpads still have those
31:03 <Ysjoelfir> yes, but they are out of my league if I want a potent one
31:16 <Halcyon> I personally just use a Bluetooth mouse
31:23 <Halcyon> But yeh on a train or whatever it's not always possible
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28:06 * Ysjoelfir will now enjoy a typical american delicacy
29:37 <Halcyon> What is it?
29:58 <Ysjoelfir> The one and only....
30:01 <Ysjoelfir> the allmighty....
30:05 <Ysjoelfir> uncomparable....
30:08 <Ysjoelfir> PBJ
30:13 * steve30 went out on the bike
30:14 <Halcyon> Meh
31:07 <Ysjoelfir> nice steve :) When I move to my new job my bike will be one of the thigns I take with me the first time I go there.
31:16 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon - what? you seem so underwhelmed XD
32:01 <Halcyon> I am
32:31 <Halcyon> I would have been more excited if you said you were eating Spam
32:42 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: SANDWICH
33:00 <Ysjoelfir> Sammiches?
33:12 <Halcyon> Open face club sandwedge?
34:03 <T3sl4> Homercyon!
34:24 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon, mrs. fiancee challenges you to share your best typical american recipe :P
34:41 <T3sl4> speaking of percussive instruments https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DOamgay6Mw
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34:50 <Halcyon> How the hell would I know? I'm not 'Merican
34:59 <Ysjoelfir> I am neither? :D
35:09 <Halcyon> Too shouty T3sl4
35:21 <Halcyon> So why would I talk about food I know little about?
36:23 <Ysjoelfir> because we like you and you like to cook.
37:57 <Halcyon> Can I just give you an Aussie meat pie or sausage roll recipe instead?
38:40 <Halcyon> T3sl4, what's typical American food? I'll write a recipe for whatever that is
39:18 <Ysjoelfir> We would be satisfied with your best finnish recipe as well
39:26 <T3sl4> well, your first problem is not using a deep fryer
39:30 <Halcyon> Oh that I can do :P
39:45 <Halcyon> I don't own a deep fryer
40:22 <Ysjoelfir> and mrs. fiancee adds: she would be fine with aussie stuff as well, but is now intrigued by finish recipes :D
41:03 <Ysjoelfir> comparing it to stuff from "Den rutete Kokeboken" we gut from rusty (who is offline for some reason?)
41:09 <Halcyon> If it were Christmas, I'd share what my family normally do. However hmmm.... what about cabbage rolls?
41:27 <Ysjoelfir> I love cabbage rolls, she doesn't xD it contains cabbage
42:09 <Halcyon> Fuck OK... I can do Finnish meatballs? Similar to Ikea.
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42:45 <T3sl4> cabbage is nice
42:49 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds great.
42:58 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, I love cabbage. but she doesn't :(
43:13 <coppice_> we haven't finnished the Ikea meat balls
44:17 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, I'll ask my mother
44:19 <coppice_> I used to be allergic to cooked cabbage, but the issue went away in my 30s
44:39 <Halcyon> I love cabbage, my mum makes rolls with rice and beef mince. Super delicious
45:21 <coppice_> rice and minced beef is supposed to be wrapped in lettuce. ask any Thai and they'll tell you
45:34 <Halcyon> She also makes something very similar to this: https://www.savorylotus.com/finnish-cabbage-casserole/
45:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - Finnish Cabbage Casserole - Savory Lotus
46:52 <Ysjoelfir> uuuh, nice
47:19 <Halcyon> I always add a bit of chilli flakes when serving. Nom.
48:14 <Ysjoelfir> that is not realy surprising :P
48:32 <Halcyon> Chilli makes everything delicious, even chocolate
48:40 <Ysjoelfir> .......... very strange song. but kinda catchy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JCuJf1kVx0
48:41 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: LYRIC : Ich und Mein Holz | 275ers
48:58 <Ysjoelfir> basic lyrics: Me and my wood
49:05 <Halcyon> You're right, it is catchy
49:12 <Halcyon> "Wood" as in.... ?
49:18 <Ysjoelfir> dead tree
49:20 <Halcyon> Ahh
49:26 <Halcyon> Makes sense
50:43 <Halcyon> You guys pronounce your acronyms very similar to we do
50:44 <Ysjoelfir> "you can burn it, you can saaaaaw it - me and my wood! - if you burn it it provides warmth! (when you saw it - it doesn't.) - me and my, me and my wood" XD
50:54 <T3sl4> Ysjoelfir: https://i.imgur.com/rQcMOcB.jpg
51:04 <Ysjoelfir> xD pretty much
51:38 * T3sl4 holz Ysjoelfir tightly
51:46 <Ysjoelfir> lol
51:52 <Halcyon> "Holzi, holzi, holz" ???
51:58 <Halcyon> "Woody, woody, wood"?
52:01 <Ysjoelfir> woody, woody, wood :D
52:05 <Halcyon> Hahaha
52:06 <Halcyon> Thought so
52:48 <Halcyon> OK now this song is stuck in my head
53:17 <Ysjoelfir> you're welcome :)
53:32 <Halcyon> Not the wurst thing I've heard today
53:36 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79DijItQXMM
53:36 * Halcyon leers at T3sl4 
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53:37 <Halcyon> :P
53:42 <Ysjoelfir> halcyon ^
54:03 <Halcyon> Meh
54:11 <T3sl4> :)
54:25 <T3sl4> Halcyon: what can i say, except?
54:46 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4B0pLDqYqI
54:48 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: "...does anyone ever say to you, 'Sounds like somebody's got a case of the Mondays?'"
54:54 <Halcyon> I need to re-watch this movie
58:52 <hsn> hello Ysjoelfir
00:03 <Ysjoelfir> hi hsn
01:39 <hsn> u are engaged ?
01:53 <Ysjoelfir> yes?
01:59 <hsn> new thing or old thing
02:18 <Ysjoelfir> old-ish. ~august 2020
02:19 <Halcyon> hsn, he's MY man :P
02:28 <hsn> xD
02:42 <hsn> oh Ysjoelfir i parsed it wrong then .. :P
02:53 <hsn> then congratz on the new job
03:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol
03:05 <Ysjoelfir> saenks
03:19 <hsn> Halcyon, how is he treating u
03:28 <hsn> xD
03:41 <Halcyon> He keeps poking me in the back when I try to sleep, but otherwise cuddly :P
03:50 <hsn> Halcyon, https://system76.com/laptops/galago this thing look cheap related to specs no ?
03:51 <EEVBot> [Title] - Galago Pro - System76
04:38 <Ysjoelfir> rofl xD
04:56 <Halcyon> Yeh it's not bad at all
05:46 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, ur new job also related to measuring instruments ?
05:51 <hsn> like the room ?
05:53 <Ysjoelfir> not at all, no
06:16 <hsn> room = zimmer
06:28 <Ysjoelfir> yep, I assumed so :P
06:32 <hsn> die zimmer odor das zimmer
06:50 <Ysjoelfir> but nope, its actually a job that has not much to do with electronics at all.
06:54 <Ysjoelfir> its "Das Zimmer" :)
07:13 <hsn> oh no electronics
07:23 <hsn> hope u enjoy it
08:18 <Ysjoelfir> I most likely will. :) Especially since I will have more fun with electronics as a hobby again :D
08:41 <T3sl4> zas dimmer
09:01 <Ysjoelfir> a Dimmer is actually a thing
09:32 <Ysjoelfir> I mean, like the english one
09:35 <Ysjoelfir> its the same in german
10:28 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTpWYWIfP7Y
10:29 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: WATCH LIVE: Virgin Galactic Unity 22 Spaceflight Livestream
10:33 <Halcyon> You guy's watching this tonight?
11:42 <Ysjoelfir> whats that
11:55 <T3sl4> why? if it blows up does it shower money like a pinyata?
12:05 <Halcyon> Maybe?
12:11 <Ysjoelfir> a money pinata? nice, I want it
12:16 <Halcyon> I wonder how much Branson's life insurance policy costs
22:07 <Ysjoelfir> who?
22:19 <Halcyon> Richard Branson
22:27 <Ysjoelfir> who's that?
22:33 <Halcyon> Owns Virgin
26:11 <T3sl4> whaa? i thought virgin was owned by Branson, MO
26:13 <Ysjoelfir> ah. Must be something important I probably missed out learning about? :D
26:42 <Halcyon> You're a mo
29:10 <T3sl4> pleasegodno
33:19 <steve30> kdenlive is crashing a lot this weekend
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15:18 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBot convert 92lbs to kg
15:24 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBot convert 92 lbs to kg
15:25 <EEVBot> Ysjoelfir: The result is 41.730464 kg
16:53 <rust_collector> 92lbs is about one small asian, that is an easy way to remember
17:05 <Ysjoelfir> nice, I will remember that
17:50 <coppice_> 41.73 kilos is a VERY small person
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18:11 <rust_collector> they are larger than you think
18:19 <rust_collector> but yes
18:31 <T3sl4> it's ok, he said asian, not person
18:49 <rust_collector> eksaxly!
18:54 <coppice_> 41.73 kilos is also a very small asian
19:15 <rust_collector> not very small, but less than average
19:44 <T3sl4> i've seen smaller, but not often
23:29 <steve30> Yesterday's second video is rendering. Its quite funny; I can't stop laughing at it :D
26:05 <rust_collector> and we are waiting....
26:25 * T3sl4 wonders how well steve30 can laugh with a mouth full of coffee
28:40 <steve30> it will be ready for your entertainment as soon as it is uploaded to Youtube
31:24 <coppice_> T3sl4: He's a squirter
31:36 <T3sl4> oh my
32:30 <steve30> In the background of one of the video clips, there's even someone sanitising a hand sanitiser.
38:51 <coppice_> Is someone sanitizing the person sanitizing the hand sanitizer? Is it sanitizers all the way down
39:17 <steve30> doesn't look like it
40:03 <coppice_> "The Hand Sanitizer's Tale"
58:12 <coppice_> we're pulling pork, but not in the David Cameron way
05:23 <T3sl4> you're pulling my leg
30:56 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXq-fw1NrmE
30:57 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Testing Times with Banaman, Cane & Mountain Bikes.
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