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42:36 Join: TheDude ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
47:25 <K> well?
47:33 Join: newbie ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
47:41 <newbie> Good day all
51:33 <newbie> I constructed a circuit to amplify the output of an FM receiver using an LM386N-1. I am using the basic circuit per the datasheet with a gain of 20: https://homemade-circuits.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/lm386amplifierwithgain20.png -- I am driving a small 8ohm speaker -- I found that there is noise overpowering the audio. If I add a 100uF cap between pin 6 and ground the noise goes away and the audio is very good. Why is this the case
51:33 <newbie> ? Currently I have everything laid out on a breadboard. The power is coming via 5V from an Arduino with Ethernet shield. I tried powering the arduino from a computer usb, usb battery, and a 9V adapter with the same results.
52:23 <newbie> 00uF cap between pin 6 and ground : Amplifier will be able to get power it needs for loud bass notes
52:24 <newbie> 100uF cap between pin 7 and ground: prevent noise from power supply getting into amplification circuitry
53:07 <newbie> according to one video I was watching it said that : 100uF cap between pin 6 and ground : Amplifier will be able to get power it needs for loud bass notes -- And that -- 100uF cap between pin 7 and ground: prevent noise from power supply getting into amplification circuitry
53:39 <newbie> however the cap between pin 7 and ground doesn't appear to get rid of the noise, the cap between pin 6 and ground does -- just not sure why it works that way?
56:04 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
56:12 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir 
56:16 <Ampera> how are you doing Ysjoelfir?
56:29 * Ysjoelfir hugs Ampera back
56:53 <Ysjoelfir> I'm tired as fuck, which is intentional as I need to go to bed very early today as I have to get up at midnight to start my day
57:06 <Ampera> nice
57:11 <Ampera> I'm sort of in a state between tired and awake
57:28 <Ampera> as I slept little last night, but slept maybe 15 hrs the day before
57:58 <Ysjoelfir> I went to bed at roughly 4:45
58:40 <Ampera> I actually try not to know the exact time I go to bed, that way I'm not thinking about how little I've slept, and might even think I've slept more than I did
58:53 <Ampera> My guess I went to bed around 01:30 and woke up at around 06:45
59:00 <Ysjoelfir> thats early
59:18 <Ampera> to rise or to sleep?
59:27 <Ysjoelfir> to get up
59:48 <newbie> instead of a 100uF cap between pin 6 and ground I just tried a 0.22uF ceramic and the overpowering noise went away as well... just not sure why a cap between the 5V and ground is making such a difference?
00:08 <Ampera> not really
00:19 <Ampera> for a while I went to bed a 6PM and woke up at 2AM regularly
00:28 <Ampera> now I try to keep it at around 10PM down 6AM up
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01:43 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds reasonable. but hey, whatever works for you, right?
02:31 <Ysjoelfir> newbie: immagine a big cap as being somewhat slow, and a smaller cap being able to react "faster".
02:31 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xxr9BqvkSE
03:06 <Ysjoelfir> thats why you tend to use LOTS of 100nF caps all around ICs
03:57 <Ysjoelfir> oO Amperas juice is getting an erection
04:18 <Ampera> I got so confused by Omega Mart.
04:20 <newbie> in this case both caps remove the noise, just not sure why we need to use the cap between the 5V supply and ground as the datasheet didn't mention it ... a video said that putting a 100uF cap here would improve bass but in this case it removed the unwated noise....
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04:27 <Ampera> It's pretty neat, if I'm ever in Las Vegas I might go there.
04:32 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) EOF from client
04:58 <newbie> the video was mentioning to put the cap between pin 7 and ground from removing noise from the power supply however a cap between pin 7 and ground didn't work...
05:31 * Ampera puts a cap in Ysjoelfir's ass
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23:12 <rust_collector> POP!
23:18 <Ysjoelfir> Poop!
23:54 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I checked for the oil dripping problem (and probably found the clickedy clackedy rattling noise I was complaining about for like 2 years)
24:01 <rust_collector> hah
24:25 <rust_collector> still dripping oil, but found the noise you was not looking for
25:13 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
25:42 <rust_collector> interesting. do you have an oil soaked motor mount?
26:55 <K> next thing he'll tell us he has oil INSIDE the motor
27:51 <rust_collector> that is a common problem on those things
28:49 <Ysjoelfir> Nope, the mounts are dry. wait, I'm uploading some pics. had it on some ramps today so I could investigate a bit
30:21 <Ysjoelfir> and the rattling might have been a heat shield over the... the.... erm.... first part of the exhaust after the turbo. downpipe? whatever, there was some thin sheetmetal over it and it was torn and flapping in the breeze, in driving direction so that the wind could perfectly grab onto that and let it vibrate against the exhaust. thats the theory. if I am right I will see when I drive it a bit.
30:46 <rust_collector> that could be
31:20 <Ysjoelfir> I decided to just rip it off.
31:39 <rust_collector> *gAsP*
34:27 <K> savages
34:38 <Ysjoelfir> who needs heatshields anyway
34:46 <rust_collector> subarus do
35:08 <rust_collector> they are 80% heat shield
35:29 <Ysjoelfir> lol
38:02 <rust_collector> so, I was offered an ugly little white transit... I am not sure if I will get it or not, buuuut... maybe
40:50 <Ysjoelfir> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1A13vE2w4-q0JciIn4d9j52q8ZLbziIAx?usp=sharing
40:51 <EEVBot> [Title] - Oil leak - Google Drive
41:15 <Ysjoelfir> transits, I drove them from time to time. not sure if thats a thing I would like :D
44:02 <rust_collector> the "newer" ones are not horrible to drive. the long tall rwd ones are, but this is a low roof, short fwd one. it is like a really tall car
45:24 <rust_collector> so, are you saying you think the rear crank seal is gone? I remember you mentioned having that replaced, but don't remember if that happened
45:57 <steve30> https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/EB8B/production/_116499206_how_not_to_wear_a_mask_jan13th_640-nc.png
46:14 <steve30> I was pondering wearing a mask on my forehead, but the BBC says I shouldn't/
46:59 <rust_collector> it is your mask, you can use them on any part of you, that you want to
48:03 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, I doubt it is the rear crank seal. if it would, it should be oily on both sides of that cover plate between motor and tranny, and not only on the motor side and basically completely clean on the transmission/flywheel side, should it?
48:26 <Ysjoelfir> and yes, that one was supposed to have been replaced like... 4 years ago
49:24 <Ysjoelfir> and this version of the transit sounds ok-ish than
49:44 <Ysjoelfir> steve30, how am I supposed to reposition that shitty thing if it slips off my nose if I am not allowed to touch it?
50:28 <steve30> In theory you should wash your hands before you touch it, and wash your hand again after you've touched it.
50:58 <rust_collector> in theory, it is better to chop off your hands
55:03 <Ysjoelfir> so, I thightened every oil pan screw. I could tighten every screw roughly a half turn until it was hand tight. So it COULD have been just the seal, but.... I somehow doubt that
55:08 <Ysjoelfir> would be to easy
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57:49 <rust_collector> I think it is sort of weird that the german embassy here is posting news about sudan, in english, on their site
58:08 Quit: cheesenchives ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
58:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol?
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08:55 <rust_collector> todays travel rules are even more confusing, btw. 3-4 more days, and I guess the confusion is full, and it goes back to 0
09:26 <Ampera> All I can say is thank fuck I don't live in Europe
09:45 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :P
10:08 <K> thank fuck you dont
10:55 * electrohead fucks Ampera's thanks
11:16 <arch> if i want to drive a two-switch forward/flyback, what kinda gate driver do i need? synchronous or independent? https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/FAN7390MX/FAN7390MXCT-ND/1873826?itemSeq=370160173 or https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/FAN73932MX/FAN73932MXCT-ND/4213659?itemSeq=370160599 ?
11:19 <EEVBot> [Title] - FAN7390MX ON Semiconductor | Integrated Circuits (ICs) | DigiKey
11:23 <Ampera> you are just weird, electrohead
11:28 <arch> i would get synchronou
11:34 <arch> guess*
12:20 <electrohead> I accept it
12:22 <electrohead> :P
12:41 <rust_collector> so, Ampera what would be so bad about living down there?
13:11 <rust_collector> sure they have weird rules, but it is only germans who cares about those
13:17 <rust_collector> oh. ok
13:18 <Ampera> I hate germans
13:36 <rust_collector> it is your german part
13:48 <Ampera> especially upmarket germans, like the nords
14:29 <rust_collector> the ones who do not shop at lidl?
15:04 <rust_collector> I sort of miss lidl. it was a horrible store, but they had some interesting things now and then
16:29 <Ampera> all of our lidls are down south
16:37 <Ampera> all we have are aldi, and they are good
17:01 <Ampera> they will alternate between having absolutely excellent stuff nobody else has, to having certain things in such low quality, even pigs would refuse it
17:09 <rust_collector> we had lidl here probably 10 years ago, but they left again after a couple years
17:21 <Ampera> especially their potatos, which might work better as masonry
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34:35 <Ampera> You know, I think my single most hated, detested practice in programming is polling, especially when it's damn near unavoidable by design.
40:20 <rust_collector> heh. I get home, think about doing something, and it starts raining again.
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50:35 <arch> T3sl4, for driving a two switch forward, do i need a synchronous gate driver, or individual gate driver?
51:09 <T3sl4> a dual will do
51:32 * T3sl4 interrupts Ampera
51:34 <arch> ty
51:45 * Ampera hugs T3sl4 
51:51 <T3sl4> <3
51:54 * Ampera promises the world to T3sl4, but never resolves it.
52:35 <T3sl4> Ampera, you're a walking stack overflow, you know that?
52:57 * Ampera responds by assaulting T3sl4 with a snack overflow
53:00 <arch> between this https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/FAN73932MX/FAN73932MXCT-ND/4213659 and this https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/FAN7390MX/FAN7390MXCT-ND/1873826 , is there a reason to have one over the other?
53:02 <EEVBot> [Title] - FAN73932MX ON Semiconductor | Integrated Circuits (ICs) | DigiKey
53:16 <arch> the individual one seems to be more flexible
54:36 <T3sl4> the 7390
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54:42 <T3sl4> inputs tied
55:06 * T3sl4 pours rice and chicken over Ampera
55:12 <Ampera> \o/
55:17 <T3sl4> which i made last night
55:21 <T3sl4> s'pretty good
55:26 <Ampera> I think yakisoba and spam is on today's menu
55:39 <arch> can i use two half bridge gate drivers to drive a full bridge?
55:52 <Ampera> I did consider taking some chicken out today for some chicken and rice tomorrow actually, but need to get rid of my yakisoba, as it's perishable
57:00 <Ampera> I also recently threw out my fresh ginger, as it was, well not so fresh anymore
57:05 <Ampera> so I'd like to wait until I can get more
57:18 <T3sl4> a full bridge is two half bridges that happen to be nearby
57:42 <arch> im worried if the delay mismatching might cause shoot through if i used two gate drivers
58:14 <T3sl4> i never seemed to get fresh ginger that was really worthwhile, not sure if it's a crappy-selection thing or i'm supposed to prepare it some other way
58:41 <Ampera> Honestly, I might be about to agree with you, because I've been putting an inordinate amount of it on my food, and it doesn't taste like much
58:45 <Ampera> I'm thinking it's because I freeze it
59:07 <Ampera> perhaps I should only refrigerate it.
59:12 <T3sl4> i should get some candied ginger some time
59:19 <Ampera> I actually have lemon ginger candies
59:29 <T3sl4> mmm
59:36 <Ampera> if you like ginger, they're more ginger than Ireland
59:48 <Ampera> Excellent once or twice a year
59:51 <Ampera> besides that, too much ginger
00:10 <T3sl4> i bet
00:11 <Ampera> I think the problem is they're actually like a very soft taffy, and would do a lot better with more lemon, and as a hard candy
00:32 <Ampera> Perhaps if I ever attempt hard candies, I'll try that.
00:56 <T3sl4> also a good flavor in tea
01:40 <Ampera> I do have red date and ginger tea that I need to try at some point
03:00 <Lemon> I was eatin' pork and rinnnnds with a bitch from new york timmmes, I don't eat no pork and rinnnnds but that bitch was mighty finnnne
03:37 * T3sl4 fines Lemon for that
03:57 <Lemon> I got gold on all my necklaces, tatted up my armssss now my moma thinks im recklesss, got guns under my matressss
08:42 <Lemon> heh its catchy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvpWJKRPadk
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13:41 * Ampera squeezes the Lemon 
13:43 <Ampera> how are you doing?
13:50 <Lemon> ho im alright and you ?
14:19 <Ampera> Hongry
14:22 <Ampera> and done with work
14:28 <Ampera> which means cooking
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41:22 <electrohead> o/
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56:35 <Lord_of_nothing> Can someone try to call one of my new number?
59:50 <TheDude> inb4 honeypot set up by glowies
59:53 <Lord_of_nothing> +8821690202042
00:30 <Lord_of_nothing> What did you mean?
01:44 <K> whatsa glowie?
03:31 <Lord_of_nothing> Deutsch, English?
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42:07 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, Lemon, currently dicking around with networking on my server. There should be absolutely nothing noticeable, but in the off case the ZNC goes down, you have an idea why.
46:15 <Ampera> TheDude, I love you
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46:49 <Ampera> Those who do not know need a lesson in HolyC.
47:00 <arch> fuckers on digikey made it so the sort by price doesn't sort by price
48:28 <TheDude> Ampera, my man :D
48:56 <Ampera> how are you doing TheDude
49:41 <TheDude> eh... I manage somehow
50:02 <Ampera> I seem to have solved the problem of my 10GbE link between my compute and storage servers not working
50:13 <Ampera> I solved the problem by there not being a problem in the first place.
50:13 <TheDude> whoa :D
50:22 <TheDude> got the whole SFP thing going?
50:32 <Ampera> oh yeah I've had it going for ages between my desktop and compute server
50:40 <Ampera> I think it's like 20m of OM3 or something like that, I can check
50:43 <TheDude> freaking mint, mate
50:52 <Ampera> then I have a twinax link between my compute and storage server, with the compute server switching it
51:12 <Ampera> Whenever I looked at the ifconfig for the storage server, it always said the interface had no carrier
51:33 <Ampera> which, best I know, in standard twisted pair ethernet, means no connection
51:51 <Ampera> but, I simply tried assigning an IP address to the interface, and it works perfectly fine
52:06 <TheDude> might be a dumb question
52:19 <TheDude> was DHCP disabled or something?
52:20 <Ampera> FreeBSD actually makes bridging interfaces a godly level of painless, on an order of magnitude easier than Linux
52:41 <Ampera> My 10GbE network is on a separate subnet with no bridge to my house wide 1GbE network
52:51 <Ampera> which has the advantage of making the network quite secure for things like database connections
53:19 <Ampera> As such, it makes no sense to run a DHCP server for three computers on a network
53:28 <TheDude> oh, I see
54:03 <TheDude> as much as I'd like to continue this conversation, I'll have to take a raincheck
54:06 <Ampera> I could run one, but since I want static IP's for all machines on the network for convenience, it'd be a complicated waste of time
54:11 <TheDude> because I was just on my way to bed
54:11 <Ampera> have fun
54:14 <Ampera> ciao
54:33 <TheDude> I slept poorly last night and I shouldn't be delaying bedtime today :D
54:41 <TheDude> cheers
54:43 <Ampera> No problem, sleep well
54:53 <TheDude> ty o/
58:56 Quit: TheDude ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
04:02 <arch> so yea, the question i asked earlier, about using two separate half bridge ICs to drive a full bridge smps, yes, you can do it: https://i.imgur.com/9sonGd1.png
04:53 <Lemon> ampera I want a small hammer :(
05:21 <Lemon> like, 20cm long, idk how heavy, just to fit together small pieces/plastic cases etc
05:35 <Lemon> head being in a soft but not too soft polymer
05:42 <Lemon> im lost with all those different types
05:51 <Lemon> urethrane or something, cellidor, etc
06:05 <Lord_of_nothing> can someone here try to call me?
06:06 <Lord_of_nothing> Stargate
06:11 <Lord_of_nothing> ggrrr wrong
06:23 <Lord_of_nothing> +8821690202042
11:18 <Ampera> Lemon, have you considered getting a metal hammer and putting a plastic cover on it?
12:07 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing: please do not share your phone number publicly here.
12:11 <Lemon> yeah I thought about it but I'd rather get something already made you know
12:12 <Lord_of_nothing> why not?
12:19 <Lemon> with the right material, size, weight etc
12:22 <Ampera> Because I just told you not to
12:28 <Lord_of_nothing> but why?
13:04 <Ampera> It invades privacy and encourages people to call dodgy numbers. That tel could be anything
13:10 <Halcyon_> Morning
13:13 <Halcyon_> Dammit
13:15 Nick: Halcyon_ is now known as Halcyon
13:18 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
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13:31 <Lord_of_nothing> its a normal virtual number
13:37 <Lord_of_nothing> i just want know if the work
14:15 <Ampera> find someone else
14:26 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
14:29 <Ampera> how are you doing
14:33 <Halcyon> I'm awake
14:38 <Halcyon> How are you?
14:38 <Lord_of_nothing> how should i find someone when i cant ask?
14:47 <Ampera> Lord_of_nothing, ask somewhere else
14:58 Quit: Lord_of_nothing ([email protected]) Quit: On the other hand, you have different fingers.
15:04 <Halcyon> What did he want?
15:13 <Ampera> for people to dial some random number he posted
15:18 <Lemon> I mean, you right ampera
15:20 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
15:28 <Lemon> but damn, maybe you could have said it a bit chiller ya know Xd
15:40 <Ampera> It's ice cold, Lemon.
15:46 <Halcyon> Mmmmm Lemonade
15:53 <Halcyon> hey electrohead
15:54 <Ampera> hahaha
15:58 <electrohead> hey mate :)
16:09 <Ampera> Halcyon, do you recall me mentioning that twinax 10GbE link between my servers that didn't work
16:24 <Halcyon> Mmmmmm nope, I thought it did work?
16:26 <Lemon> I hope I'll get some packages tommorow
16:35 <Ampera> The fiber link between my desktop and compute server works
16:51 <Ampera> but there's another link between my compute and storage servers, and on the storage server the NIC would say no carrier despite the cable being plugged in
17:07 <Ampera> well, I'm guessing that it just needed to be turned on or something, because when I assigned an IP to it, it worked fine
17:14 <Halcyon> Oh yes I vaguely you mentioning that
17:19 <Ampera> you vaguely
17:19 <Halcyon> I think we were on the phone
17:23 <Ampera> we were
17:26 <Halcyon> *remember
17:31 <Halcyon> Shhh, I haven't had coffee yet
17:42 <Ampera> you shouldn't
17:43 <Ampera> tea is better
17:51 <Halcyon> Not in the mood for tea
18:00 <Ampera> baldercrap
18:08 <Halcyon> You're crap
18:20 <Ampera> you're bald
18:30 <Ampera> close to it anyways
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18:48 <Halcyon> No where near it
18:52 <Halcyon> In fact, I need a haircut
18:53 <Lord_of_nothing> re
18:59 <Lord_of_nothing> thankfully the update worked
19:16 <Halcyon> Argh, I hate work's VPN client, it's so horrible
19:53 <Ampera> you're cute when you're challenged, Halcyon
20:02 <Halcyon> It's not a challenge, it's just crap
20:28 <Ampera> being challenged may be a challenge, but you got it buddy
20:30 <Ampera> I believe in you
20:33 <Ampera> you can do anything if you try
20:47 <Halcyon> Instead of using your normal AD password, they force you remember some random 4 digit number (that you don't get to choose), then add a 6-digit one-time code to it and that's your password for that session
21:03 <Halcyon> Then it kicks your session after 6 hours (because... you know... who works for longer than 6 hours?)
21:47 <Ampera> Thanks for letting me know that. Quite useful...
22:06 <Halcyon> And of course, you can't just use a standard rolling code app like Authy or Google Authenticator, noooo, you have to download their shitty specific app that looks like it was written by a child
23:04 <Lord_of_nothing> omg i set the wrong think
23:08 <Halcyon> It's not really that useful to you Ampera... it's barely useful for me because it's so shit
23:12 <Lord_of_nothing> everythink look crap
30:06 <Halcyon> Oh lockdown is extended for another week, darn what a shame, looks like I'll have to keep working from home ;-)
30:48 <Ampera> I do recall saying that Australia's extensive lack of immunity compared to the rest of the world would come crashing down
31:01 <Halcyon> Yep, they didn't get on it quick enough
31:11 <Ampera> I think coppice even concurred in a similar point for other east Asian places with similar conundrums.
31:30 <Ampera> Now that more virulent variants have sprung up, it may be even worse for Australia
31:31 <Halcyon> I mean our cases are very low, so they still have time to get it done
31:46 <Ampera> It only takes a spark to light a puddle of gasoline.
31:48 <Halcyon> Yep, but so far those have been few and far between and in hotel quarantine
32:41 <Halcyon> I need my woollen socks
33:53 <Halcyon> Although I do need to go to the office next week to get some bits
34:12 <coppice> 32? 64?
34:22 <Halcyon> 20
34:31 <Halcyon> *shrug* what are we counting?
34:38 <Ampera> bits
34:47 <Halcyon> Yes 20, I'll have 20
35:15 * Ampera gives Halcyon a PDP-8 and one half of a PDP-11
35:22 <Halcyon> \o/
38:40 <Halcyon> Ampera, you give me the shits... brb... bathroom
39:06 <Ampera> How the hell could I give you shit, you're already full beyond capacity of it.
39:17 <Halcyon> You seem to find a way
42:52 <coppice> all the best computers are 1 bit
01:30 * Halcyon slaps Ampera
05:31 * Ampera kisses Halcyon
05:44 <Ampera> blech, tastes like cheap perfume
08:19 <Halcyon> I haven't put any on yet
08:25 <Halcyon> BITCH
09:43 <Ampera> so you really taste like plastic and chemicals?
09:46 <Ampera> ew
10:07 <Halcyon> :P
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59:40 <Halcyon> *yawn*
59:43 <Halcyon> Be more interesting Ampera
01:19 <Ampera> penis
02:54 <Halcyon> You're 'tarded
03:10 <Ampera> I'm not the one who's afraid of iodine.
03:36 <Halcyon> I don't know where you get that from?
03:51 <Ampera> you telling me that you are afraid of iodized salt
04:00 <Halcyon> I told you I don't buy it because I don't need it
04:06 <Halcyon> Why would I buy something I don't need?
04:12 <Ampera> rationalize your fear all you must, but it's still present
04:23 <Ampera> In other words, you can run, but you can't hide.
04:34 <Halcyon> My only fear is one day, the world will be overtaken by uneducated morons.
04:52 <Ampera> that's a pretty nasty typo
05:00 <Ampera> goal is spelled nothing like fear
05:19 <Ampera> but I appreciate you leading the charge into our gradual decline into idiocracy.
05:36 <Halcyon> It seems grammar is optional for you too :P
05:36 <Ampera> There is no idiot I'd rather have leading the world into the ground than you, HAL.
05:53 <Halcyon> I just hope I'm not alive if/when it happens.
06:09 <Ampera> in other news, I think I should start work on setting up an LDAP system
06:32 <Ampera> as I am starting to have enough machines on my network with the exact same accounts for it to make sense
06:36 <Halcyon> Yeh I need to get around to doing that too
06:40 <Halcyon> It's a bit of a mess at the moment
06:57 <Ampera> A lot of stuff I want to do relies on other stuff
07:24 <Ampera> Ultimately I want to reinstall or move my desktop install off ext4 and onto ZFS, so I can start making live snapshots
07:42 <Ampera> (I'm aware there's other means to do that, but ZFS has other benefits, and all of them usually require some form of refactoring)
08:25 <Ampera> Before I do that, I want to have some archlinux PXE images with ZFS on them so that I don't have to worry about keeping a special flash drive around if things go wrong
08:42 <Ampera> so that means I really should work on revamping my PXE setup
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20:31 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/13abc/status/1412146830658478080
24:16 <Halcyon> Morons
25:15 <Halcyon> This is why laws exist, to protect the smart from the stupid
25:46 <steve30> hi
26:22 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
39:03 * flyback bites arch 
41:46 Quit: arch ([email protected]) Connection closed
45:33 <Halcyon> Look what you've done flyback
45:45 <flyback> :/
47:04 <Halcyon> :P
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14:08 * Halcyon probs T3sl4 
14:11 <Halcyon> *prods
14:49 * T3sl4 proboscus's Halcyon
15:04 <Halcyon> What's doing?
15:53 <T3sl4> just had a egg and jalapeno cheddar on croissant
17:02 <Halcyon> Interesting combo, I want to try it
17:24 <Halcyon> Only thing missing is bacon
17:31 <T3sl4> basically your breakfast melt from maccys
18:11 <Halcyon> I don't think our Maccas has a "breakfast melt"
18:29 <Halcyon> https://mcdonalds.com.au/menu
18:33 <EEVBot> [Title] - Menu | McDonald's Australia
18:42 <Halcyon> But I kinda want a McSpicy burger now
22:34 <T3sl4> also a coffee
31:55 <Halcyon> Too late here for coffee
32:06 <Halcyon> Although I will get some salami
37:26 * electrohead gropes Halcyon and T3sl4 at the same time
37:37 <electrohead> Halcyon: yeah I know, I apparently stumbled to bed
37:43 <electrohead> had to do one more thing on the laptop
37:47 * T3sl4 licks electrohead's salami
37:56 * electrohead giggles like a fucking school girl
38:02 <electrohead> alright, no more giggling
38:17 * electrohead giggles Halcyon's google
38:18 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekxn5KLv9XQ
38:19 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Laughing time is over
39:23 * T3sl4 bobbles electrohead's bubble
40:51 <electrohead> goodnight, guys
40:57 <electrohead> I'm going to crash, and hard
41:23 <Halcyon> T3sl4, I found Kangaroo salami at the shops today
41:27 <Halcyon> I want to try it
41:38 <Halcyon> You don't use Signal on your phone do you?
41:40 <T3sl4> nice
41:46 <T3sl4> i have telegram?
41:49 <Halcyon> Meh
47:08 <steve30> The sky is looking very gay today
47:14 <Halcyon> Pics
47:48 <steve30> i'll upload on later, i'm just going out for a walk
04:23 * T3sl4 gives steve30 a very gay coffee
10:10 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c3/a0/58/c3a05841b0d54a1d3c29764e9a983735.jpg
10:10 <Halcyon> ?
10:19 <T3sl4> hah
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35:21 <Watcher> eevblog time
35:30 <Watcher> EEVBot time
35:31 <EEVBot> It is currently 2021/07/07 15:35:30 at the EEVBlog lab.
35:45 <Halcyon> Howdy watcher
35:54 <Watcher> Howdy Halcyon
35:59 <Halcyon> What's doing?
36:22 <Watcher> my daily search for a high end multimeter on a low budget
36:58 <Halcyon> How low?
38:02 <Watcher> 130-190(with post and import charges) for high end like fluke *89 or *87
38:17 <Halcyon> Used obviously
38:28 <Watcher> and Ysjoelfir offered one from hem for 180 euro
38:34 <Watcher> Halcyon yes used
38:42 <Halcyon> Fair enough
38:58 <Watcher> and the brand thusend matter
39:37 <Watcher> so now i also like to keysight and brymen but i can't find used brymen's on ebay world wide
43:36 <Watcher> i have a budget of 150 euro for fluke 279FC i liked that i have a thermal camera on a handheld multimeter
48:38 <steve30> i'm a bit knackered from that walk
49:07 <Halcyon> Aww
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58:24 <Watcher> bye bye
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59:17 <Halcyon> Stupid FTTN
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14:38 * steve30 collapses on Halcyon's lap
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40:59 <Ampera> Good morning
41:16 <Halcyon> Morning :)
44:15 <T3sl4> hi
46:36 * steve30 ponders beer
46:45 <Halcyon> Do it
47:29 <Ampera> how are you doing Halcyon, T3sl4, and steve30
47:51 <T3sl4> good
47:56 <Halcyon> Tired
48:07 <Halcyon> Pondering a shower
48:28 * steve30 feels like crap
48:37 <Halcyon> What kind of crap?
48:57 <Ampera> I woke up needing to pee about an hour ago, with the intent to go back to bed
49:07 <T3sl4> Halcyon hopes it's the kind you want pounded back inside you
49:10 <Ampera> but I went to sleep 2 hours earlier than usual, and happened to wake up 2 hours earlier than usual
49:15 <Ampera> so that worked out
49:28 <Halcyon> That's not how it works T3sl4
49:40 <T3sl4> :P
49:43 <T3sl4> i almost never get to bed early
50:29 <steve30> hehe
50:40 <steve30> just generally feeling crap
50:47 <Halcyon> You just never go to bed T3sl4
50:52 <steve30> i had an adequate few days, but that seems to be over now
51:07 <Halcyon> I'm convinced you survive on 5 minutes sleep here and there and don't actually have a bedroom.
54:12 <T3sl4> or i just go to sleep at the same time you go to work or sleep respectively
54:57 <K> hello shovels
55:44 <Halcyon> Hey stump grinder
57:44 <T3sl4> hey pick
03:06 <steve30> i've put some sausages on
03:07 <Ampera> calling someone a shovel is a real dig.
04:15 <K> at least didn't call noone a hoe
04:17 <K> yet.
04:30 <K> "didn't call anyone"?
06:45 <T3sl4> steve30 and Halcyon https://gfycat.com/qualifiedbowedblobfish
06:45 <EEVBot> [Title] - 6ab5fd17af9e8f06 GIF by Thund3rbolt | Gfycat
07:15 <steve30> aww
07:20 * steve30 paws at T3sl4 
10:59 * T3sl4 meows at steve30
18:08 <Halcyon> I can't tell if that's a gay guy or a lesbian
19:15 <T3sl4> assuming woman, but a somewhat masculine build, yeah
19:31 <T3sl4> like, if the hair were merely a different style
24:48 <K> hey look everyone, T3sl4 be assumin again!
25:10 * T3sl4 asses K
29:16 <steve30> Halcyon, Apparently homosexuality causes covid-19 now
32:26 <Halcyon> Phew, at least it's not the other way around
32:28 <Halcyon> Imagine that?
33:50 <steve30> Apparently the BBC has been broadcasting homophobic stuff and that was one of them
34:04 <Halcyon> Heheh BBC :P
34:09 <Halcyon> They should know better
34:15 <Halcyon> Everyone loves a Big Black Cock
36:23 <Ampera> Maybe they were broadcasting homophonic content and it just sounded the same.
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41:03 <alfbaz> testing one two three
41:31 * steve30 is getting fat
42:15 <alfbaz> There's a huge difference between getting fat and getting a fat :P
43:12 <alfbaz> Just like there's a huge difference between bending over and kneeling down
43:57 <T3sl4> https://www.reddit.com/r/aww/comments/of682u/my_beautiful_20_year_old_kitty_boy/
43:59 <EEVBot> [Title] - reddit: the front page of the internet
44:05 * T3sl4 testes alfbaz
44:22 <alfbaz> There's a huge dif..
44:36 <T3sl4> also, https://i.imgur.com/WsJtRi1.jpg
45:52 <Halcyon> Awwww Husky
46:04 <alfbaz> what do you call nuts on a wall?
46:12 <Halcyon> Walnuts ?
46:18 <alfbaz> yep
46:22 <Halcyon> :P
46:30 <alfbaz> what do you call nuts on your chest
46:31 <steve30> kitty :)
46:42 <Halcyon> Fun and games?
46:43 <Halcyon> :P
46:48 <alfbaz> lol
46:52 <alfbaz> chestnuts
47:06 <Halcyon> I'd call it a good date
47:06 <alfbaz> what do you call nuts on your chin :P
47:07 <Halcyon> :P
47:49 <T3sl4> tea bag
47:53 <Halcyon> That :P
48:03 <alfbaz> chinnuts for desert anyone?
48:07 <K> deez nuts
48:55 <Halcyon> What do you call nuts in your mouth?
50:08 <alfbaz> mouth nuts
50:13 <Halcyon> *shrug*
50:19 <Halcyon> I was hoping you knew
50:43 <alfbaz> im thinking...
52:04 <Ampera> that's dangerous
52:06 <Ampera> don't do that
52:07 <Ampera> stop
52:09 <Ampera> you'll hurt yourself
52:43 <alfbaz> Apparently we have some Brazilian nuts in the cupboard. Cant imagine what a shit job it would be sitting there shaving them all
52:56 <Halcyon> Hahahaha
53:06 <T3sl4> wax, not shave
53:39 <T3sl4> Halcyon: what about nuts in the ass
54:03 <alfbaz> ingrown nuts
54:03 <T3sl4> which, is something i've seen. to a woman no less. pretty impressive tbh
54:19 <Halcyon> Indeed
54:40 <Halcyon> Getting them in is one thing, getting them back out again... could prove challenging.
55:18 <alfbaz> Sounds painful for the nut giver
56:53 <Halcyon> Yessum
57:16 <Ampera> you people need an exorcism.
58:54 <alfbaz> is that another sexual euphemism I'm not up to speed on?
59:28 * T3sl4 gives Ampera one of those stress squeeze balls but it's scrotum themed
59:50 <Ampera> alfbaz, no it's a genuine statement of fact
00:01 <Halcyon> It's Ampera's specific kink
00:38 <T3sl4> sexorcism is especially kinky
00:48 <Ampera> if you guys don't settle down /RIGHT/ now, I'm calling a priest.
01:00 <T3sl4> a young priest and an old priest?
01:06 <Halcyon> I'm too old to be raped by a priest
01:10 <alfbaz> Ampera, that's a shame I was gonna tell you all about felching :P
01:24 <Halcyon> That boat sailed about 15 years ago :P
01:32 <Ampera> Halcyon, you're too old.
01:43 <Halcyon> I know
01:46 <Halcyon> I'm over 18 :P
02:11 <Ampera> No, I mean in general
02:11 <alfbaz> I missed out. I was an alter boy and never got diddles
02:18 <T3sl4> alfbaz, you ass clown
03:03 <Halcyon> Unlucky alfbaz
03:07 <alfbaz> lol, what happend T3sl4, did you look up felching?
03:21 <T3sl4> why, did you look up ass clown?
03:34 <alfbaz> looking now
03:40 <Halcyon> Me too :P
03:40 <T3sl4> :D
04:03 <Ampera> You guys keep looking each other up, and you're gonna all get STD's in no time
04:16 * T3sl4 looks Ampera down
04:43 <alfbaz> strangely not offended :)
05:15 <Halcyon> https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9313264/
05:17 <EEVBot> [Title] - Ass Clowns: Constipated (2021) - IMDb
05:19 <Halcyon> Interesting...
06:03 <alfbaz> Standard Time Deveation
06:28 <alfbaz> you get that on global chat rooms
08:05 <Halcyon> Anyway, I'm going to go lay in bed and watch The Office
08:22 <alfbaz> perv
09:21 <Halcyon> :P
10:39 <alfbaz> I might go and see why my nanovna shows bullshit on a passive low pass filter at the bottom end of its frequency range 10-100kHz
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12:51 <alfbaz> it seems to display a high pass response
14:20 <alfbaz> in actual fact it shows the same response, S21 logmag on just a resistor
15:33 <alfbaz> balls, dick, arse
16:16 <T3sl4> that's pretty low freq for a spec anything to read
17:03 <alfbaz> yeah my thoughts too, which leads me to ask whats the real lower limit?
17:40 <T3sl4> did you RTFDS?
18:47 <alfbaz> Not for this particular issue but I have noted the switches stated freq is well below what they're using them for
19:49 <alfbaz> 10k to 4.4G is the vna
21:15 <alfbaz> 's freq span but the DPST electrical switches specs are way lower than 4.4G, how much can you cal out? I don't have enough test gear to find out
22:53 <T3sl4> maybe it just doesn't go that low
22:57 <T3sl4> highpasses or whatever
23:06 <T3sl4> or samples per window or whatever
25:21 <alfbaz> yeah I was wondering about the number of sample points versus the freq gen resolution, clearly set the span very low doesn't mean we'll get 201 discrete freqwncies between start an end points
28:02 <alfbaz> low frequency stuff, I probably should pull out the digilent analog discovery kit
29:36 <alfbaz> This thunderbird irc client is pretty cool compared to what I've been using
30:59 <alfbaz> especially for clicking on posted url's
31:46 <alfbaz> I was ssh'ing into an irssi "screen" on my headless linux server
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18:02 <Reg7805> hello everyone
18:38 <Reg7805> I hope everyone is well and having a good day.
18:54 <K> it is acceptable, barly
18:56 <K> barely
19:02 <K> for now
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29:10 <rc_> very quiet here...
29:19 <rc_> let me just say
29:22 <rc_> 
30:53 <alfbaz> It is ever since I stopped talking
30:56 <alfbaz> ;P
31:00 <alfbaz> :P
31:22 <steve30> hi
31:22 <T3sl4> \u00a0
31:54 * T3sl4 passes around slices of jarlsburg
32:00 <T3sl4> mmm, kingly
36:11 <K> cheese :|
37:25 <rc_> OST!
39:21 <alfbaz> had a halloumi burger the other day... nice!
39:29 <rc_> a what?
40:27 <T3sl4> nice
40:47 <rc_> oh ok.
42:26 <T3sl4> yep.
42:47 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I forgot that interlaced was still a thing. https://t.co/5hm2fZLcAI
42:50 <alfbaz> Instead of meat a thick slice of grilled halloumi
43:00 <rc_> a what?
43:17 <alfbaz> halloumi cheese
43:25 <rc_> oh ok
44:58 <alfbaz> I'd heard of it but that was my first taste. Stopped at the shops on the way home and bought a bucket of the stuff
45:05 <alfbaz> I'm over it now :P
45:51 <rc_> cheeseburger
47:04 <rc_> does it mean something? maybe it is a family name or something
47:58 <alfbaz> Don't know much about it. When I first heard of it I thought it was some form of halal chese :)
47:59 * T3sl4 beesechurgers alfbaz
48:33 <alfbaz> better trade mark that name pronto
48:35 <rc_> yes, it sounds a bit suspect
49:24 <rc_> this milk was not milked, but cut out of the cow with a blunt rock
49:42 <K> hentai cheese
50:05 <alfbaz> I'm not lysdexic!
50:09 <rc_> i guess arch likes that
53:16 <rc_> how is the shed project going?
53:32 <T3sl4> some people like asiago, he likes aheago
55:03 <alfbaz> rc_, it's stalled at the moment, if I'm not working I'm injured or sick... it's been a crap couple of weeks just passed
55:32 <rc_> that is the downside to having a job
55:56 <alfbaz> yeah it gets in the way of life :c
58:03 <rc_> very. but it keeps the weather in order. it is sunny and hot all day, then i get home, and itvstarts raining a lot
58:16 <alfbaz> I was in ER yesterday making sure my sore shoulder wasn't heart related. After spending all day there I found out my ticker was fine but left with a shit shoulder. It got that bad I needed help to get into bed without moving it and suffering sever stabbing pains in it
58:29 <rc_> it seems to be how it is this summer, becaude we have summer up here
58:32 <alfbaz> Woke up this morning, right as rain
58:48 <alfbaz> WTF was that shit all about?
59:19 <rc_> whaa? why would your heart mess with your shoulder?
59:58 <alfbaz> apparently pain in the shoulder can be an indicator of heart attack and I got a stent put in a month ago
00:07 <rc_> heh, ok
00:25 <alfbaz> so you can imagine what my head was thining
01:45 <rc_> shoulders is pretty much the only part i am a bit worried about. they are hard to fix, when you tear them apart
03:01 <rc_> well, time to go do stuff again. have fun
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37:49 <alfbaz> T3sl4, nanovna saver is pulling 101 datpoints from 10k to 100k they're spaced at 900Hz although wether or not they are actual samples at those actual frequencies is TBD. Doesn't matter any way, at these low frequencies pk to pk noise on a what should be flat is 1.48dB.
38:12 <alfbaz> No special precautions taken to eliminate noise
51:46 <alfbaz> I'm off to watch the box, goodnight all
51:55 <K> nn
52:06 Quit: alfbaz ([email protected]) Client exited
55:48 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Why is the Casio random number generator only 3 digits? https://t.co/gyMUpXDE4U
59:07 <electrohead> o/
16:41 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Just a test of another configuration of my DIY light box. You can see one of the wires on the top reflected on the… https://t.co/oHWOeVVuBe
31:49 * electrohead steals Ysjoelfir's coffee
35:58 * Ysjoelfir doesn't notice anything as he tends to ignore anything coffee related
43:35 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I'm done, I can't finish editing this video on my laptop at home. @MAGIX_INT Vegas is so unstable it's fucking usel… https://t.co/0bbeF2Mwh5
44:09 <electrohead> lol, hey man :p
47:03 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - And I can't just roll back to v17 because the project file is not forward compatible.
54:00 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Is anyone surprised any more? https://t.co/eR7SkZE39h
57:47 <hsn> https://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/314604/is-0603-vs-0402-assembly-mass-production-cost-optimization-still-relevant
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