// #eevblog — 2019-05-29
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00:38:27 <rust_collector> great, now I have thermal paste on everything
00:38:41 <rust_collector> again
00:41:39 <K> how come?
00:43:15 <rust_collector> I am just a messy person, so I probably had a blob of it on my finger, I guess
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04:37:48 <rh> o/ anyone here?
04:38:59 <rh> be happy if someone could quickly verify the total resistance of this for me, so I can confirm my calculations https://imgur.com/a/YNx2nTO
05:06:34 <DHess_US> "Bran Stark was elected by the Electoral College, despite Hillary receiving three million more votes."
05:22:35 <T3sl4> rh: about 103 ohms
05:26:16 * Halcyon mounts T3sl4
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05:56:01 * T3sl4 valleys Halcyon
06:03:12 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
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11:10:51 <DHess_US> Shouldn't there be a country western song about how sad it is to transfer 2TB at 30MB/s?
11:11:41 <DHess_US> "It took so long to transfer this song that my dog died."
11:12:05 <Ampera> 30MB/s doesn't sound that slow
11:12:37 <DHess_US> USB 2.0 speeds.
11:13:10 <DHess_US> I'm just not used to transfer rates being limited by the mass storage instead of the network.
11:13:23 <DHess_US> It wasn't USB 2 though.
11:14:57 <Ampera> It almost seems satanic to tell Windows 95 setup that I do indeed have a network card
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11:58:37 <Ampera> DHess_US, you jynxed me, now I'm copying files over the network too
11:58:54 <Ampera> but I don't have even USB 2 speeds, I have 10BASE-T speeds
12:03:20 <DHess_US> I have a bunch of cards that will run on Windows 95
12:03:33 <Ampera> a bunch of what cards?
12:03:35 <DHess_US> Intel pro 100+s, 3com,
12:03:39 <DHess_US> network cards
12:03:47 <Ampera> you have any etherlink III's that aren't broken?
12:03:51 <DHess_US> I even have a number of NE2000s which probably did run on 954
12:03:56 <DHess_US> Yep
12:04:00 <Ampera> can I have 20
12:04:02 <DHess_US> Using one right now for my router.
12:04:06 <Ampera> lol
12:04:14 <DHess_US> I have just one. You're welcome to it.
12:04:34 <Ampera> nah I won't take your only one. Halcyon sent me 3, but two of them didn't end up working for whatever reason
12:04:37 <DHess_US> I think it is a III. Might be a II.
12:04:48 <Ampera> I have one that does work, and I pass it around the machines I use
12:05:15 <DHess_US> I think my router will tell me what it is if I ask.
12:05:35 <Ampera> Please tell me that's a management controller
12:07:26 <DHess_US> xl0 3Com 3cSOHO100-TX OfficeConnect
12:07:36 <DHess_US> I might have pulled the Etherlink III
12:07:44 <DHess_US> I'll go look.
12:09:53 <DHess_US> It's in the machine. I know the chipset says Etherlink something and I think it is III
12:10:06 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
12:10:31 <DHess_US> I had it out about 2 months ago when I was having problems with the router that had nothing to do with the router.
12:10:39 <Ampera> anyways this machine is missing the MSVC runtime, and I'm too lazy to find a download for it that isn't a virus
12:10:57 <DHess_US> Stupid Xylinx network appliance decided it needed its DHCP server on my network.
12:11:05 <DHess_US> Wait, Zyxel
12:11:18 * Ampera throws some Z's and X's at DHess_US for good measure
12:11:27 <DHess_US> Hm, I have it for XP but I don't think I have that for 95
12:11:37 <Ampera> eh, it's somewhere
12:11:49 <Ampera> I need it to get 7zip to work
12:11:58 <Ampera> I probably even have it on a flash drive or CD somewhere
12:12:05 <Ampera> just cbf to look for it atm
12:12:23 <DHess_US> Most of my working machines don't have SSE2 which is a major problem these days.
12:12:45 <DHess_US> Lots of stuff requires SSE2 or better starting a couple years ago whether they use it or not.
12:13:01 <Ampera> I recall that being an issue when I was trying to use an Athlon XP+ as a DAW
12:13:26 <Ampera> speaking of which, I'm about to set up a mac mini as a DAW soon
12:13:27 <DHess_US> Yep. That's why I haven't bothered getting my last Athon system running again.
12:13:59 <Ampera> I just like to dick around on these old machines, maybe play or install a game, I really only just like messing with them
12:14:04 <Ampera> doing random neat shit
12:14:19 <Ampera> I was trying to install Microsoft Comic Chat
12:14:34 <DHess_US> I remember running Doom on my Pentium 90 and thinking it was so much faster than my 486DX2
12:14:41 <Ampera> which, by my luck, is included with Internet 3.0, just not the version I have installed
12:14:56 <Ampera> it's also included with Windows, just not 95C
12:15:07 <Ampera> only later versions
12:15:12 <DHess_US> Yea, I went to 98 as quckly as possible.
12:15:27 <Ampera> yeah but it's not really appropriate for this machine
12:15:29 <Ampera> and I like Windows 95
12:16:02 <Ampera> I also have a DX4-100 (OC to 120Mhz)
12:16:15 <Ampera> and with some other spiffies, essentially makes it twice as fast as a DX2-66
12:16:47 <Ampera> runs doom alright so long as you don't try to do something insane like increase the resolution.
12:17:00 <DHess_US> My Tyan dual P90 is long gone. My Micronix 66MHz 486 couldn't support more than 8MB
12:17:02 <Ampera> It can even do Duke 3D @ 320x400 (I think)
12:17:12 <Ampera> holdup, speaking of memory
12:17:22 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/445102847827378176/IMG_20180227_044735.jpg
12:17:30 <Ampera> this is the POST screen for that box
12:17:52 <DHess_US> I have my Abit BX6rev2 with a 1.2 P3 and a similar BX6 with a Pentium 2 450 for my router. I think those are my oldest systems.
12:18:19 <Ampera> In terms of PCs, this 486 is my oldest system, but in terms of computers, my Commodore 64 is my oldest system
12:18:38 <DHess_US> I have a C64 in the basement but it was my brothers and not mine.
12:18:50 <Ampera> Well this is my dad's, but it's on permanent loan to me
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15:41:40 <Guest|40199helmuth> Just saw a yuotube video on esdprobe for oscilloscope. Using a keysight DSO 5034 SCOPE, ITS A REAL DEVICE!
15:42:38 <T3sl4> hmm?
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16:34:09 <T3sl4> hi
16:34:34 <Guest|69831> Hello first time here
16:34:54 <T3sl4> welcome
16:37:09 <Guest|69831> Just received my 121GW meter and was looking for some info
16:37:34 <T3sl4> there was a few guys here with one but i don't know if anyone is around right now :|
16:39:19 <Guest|69831> that's alright, I am just looking around
16:42:03 <Guest|69831> Wondering if the meter is shipped with the calibration data backed up to the SD card
16:43:16 <Ampera> Guest|69831, support for the 121GW is likely better recieved on the EEVBlog Forum.
16:43:40 <Guest|69831> cool thanks
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17:41:31 <Halcyon> Mew
17:43:03 <T3sl4> µ
17:43:32 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
17:43:52 <Halcyon> Hey Amps
17:43:59 <Ampera> eyyy
17:44:07 <Ampera> that was a long ass time to put some damn lotion on
17:44:17 <T3sl4> ass lotion?
17:44:31 * Ampera skillets T3sl4
17:44:58 * T3sl4 gives Ampera all his eggs and bacon
18:03:47 <steve30> hi Halcyon
18:04:09 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
18:04:31 <Halcyon> Yeh I ended up watching Schitts Creek, then I went to bed, the I got up and went to work, now I'm here :)
18:04:55 <steve30> Halcyon, my naughty parcel arrived yesterday :p
18:05:08 <Halcyon> Ooooh show us :)
18:07:20 <T3sl4> hm, i should cease the habit of closing the secondary browser window while the primary one is watching a full screen video
18:08:33 <steve30> got a parcel of bike parts coming today
18:08:49 <Halcyon> Why would you do that T3sl4 ?
18:08:59 <Halcyon> I'm more interested in your naughty parcel Steve
18:09:05 <Halcyon> Not so excited for your bike parts :P
18:09:21 <steve30> I can confirm that the fleshlight was fun :)
18:09:39 <T3sl4> bikes? not to derail the subject
18:10:02 <Halcyon> Hahaha
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18:11:46 * T3sl4 motions to the pegs on the wall, if steve needs to hang up his coates
18:14:43 * Ampera pegs T3sl4
18:14:50 <T3sl4> ohhh myyy
18:19:30 * T3sl4 puts a Square Peg in Ampera's round hole
18:19:46 <Ampera> no
18:21:14 <Halcyon> Pointy
18:21:54 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
18:22:33 <T3sl4> hi Halcyon
18:22:55 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
18:23:01 * T3sl4 waggles a Square Peg at Halcyon
18:23:08 * Ampera waggles a T3sl4 at Halcyon
18:23:16 * T3sl4 am waggle
18:23:42 * T3sl4 serves Ampera a delicious Halcyon in a [Disneyland] teacup
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18:23:54 <Ampera> ew gay
18:23:56 <Ampera> >:(
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18:24:40 <steve30> hi EEVBlog
18:24:43 <T3sl4> EEVBlog: inhuman
18:24:59 * steve30 looks forward to food time
18:25:05 <T3sl4> food?
18:25:07 <EEVBlog> Hi Halcyon
18:25:42 <T3sl4> i also like food
18:25:48 <Ampera> so do I
18:25:49 <Halcyon> :)
18:25:51 <Ampera> but it's 4:33
18:25:57 <Ampera> and I can't cook food
18:26:07 <T3sl4> John Cage in the kitchen?
18:26:16 <Ampera> how do Halcyon
18:26:53 <T3sl4> Ampera
18:27:37 <Ampera> T3sl4,
18:27:43 <T3sl4> hi Ampera
18:28:52 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon; puts a purring steve30 on Ampera's lap
18:28:58 <Halcyon> Mmm warm
18:29:35 <T3sl4> true, i guess i haven't deaded yet
18:31:53 <Halcyon> Ampera, I made the mistake of buying a bag of Minties (which I was to send to you). I can't stop eating them :P
18:32:11 <Ampera> oh those mallow things?
18:32:23 <Halcyon> Yeh but they are quite hard and chewy
18:32:58 <Halcyon> But not crunchy hard, more like.... imagine quite tough jerky, that kind of thing
18:33:05 * T3sl4 smothers Ampera in orange-flavored biscuits
18:33:34 <Halcyon> After a while they soften into a minty, gooeyness
18:33:52 <Ampera> so a mallow
18:34:08 <T3sl4> so, after-dinner mints?
18:34:09 <Ampera> T3sl4, I have some, but they aren't the nice Jaffas, and I'm not sure if I want to eat any
18:34:32 <T3sl4> yeah jaffa i wanted to say
18:34:51 <Halcyon> Mallow to me implies soft, like marshmallow
18:35:01 * T3sl4 suddenly feels a desire for marmalade
18:35:16 <Halcyon> T3sl4, shall I send you a box of Jaffa cakes too?
18:35:21 <Ampera> this is more like gelatin than marmalade
18:35:40 <T3sl4> not sure if i have any local access to them
18:37:45 <Halcyon> Well, like I said T3sl4, I'm putting a package together for Ampera. I would be more than happy to send you one at the same time.
18:38:12 * Ampera is surfing the web on IE 3
18:38:13 <Halcyon> If you like jams and marmalades, I can also send you some local produce :)
18:38:24 <Halcyon> Oh gawd Ampera! Does shit still load in that?
18:38:32 <Ampera> yeah why wouldn't it
18:38:43 <Ampera> I mean you don't have SSL nor TLS, nor the ability to load PNGs
18:38:44 <T3sl4> it's funny you say that because i was just watching a Yahtzee vid
18:38:48 <Halcyon> Because the web is all modern and shit now
18:38:49 <Ampera> and not even sure if there's CSS support
18:38:58 <Ampera> but yeah, google loads, MSN loads
18:39:03 <T3sl4> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jam_(novel)
18:39:04 <Halcyon> Yeh they do
18:39:15 <Ampera> my website sort of does, but not the forum, as I have (sort of) strict HTTPS enforcement
18:39:27 <steve30> on the subject of old software, I finally found the windows version of FileMaker Pro 3
18:39:30 <Halcyon> Heh, not the jam I was thinking of T3sl4
18:39:38 <Ampera> I'm actually doing this on the P120 machine you sent me, with one of the etherlinks you sent me
18:39:41 <Halcyon> Oh Steve!
18:39:44 <Halcyon> Can you send that to me!
18:40:02 <Ampera> I'm really only doing it so I can get some files off a closed off HTTP server I'm running on my PC
18:40:09 <Ampera> since it's faster than floppies and cheaper than CDs
18:40:19 <Halcyon> Oh nice, glad to see those cards got put to good use
18:40:32 * T3sl4 belches fire at Ampera
18:40:45 <steve30> Halcyon, https://winworldpc.com/product/filemaker/pro-3x
18:40:49 <Ampera> Yeah I use one of the etherlinks quite regularly on my PCs
18:40:51 <Halcyon> YAY!
18:40:55 <Ampera> actually hold on Halcyon, I got a picture to show you
18:41:12 <T3sl4> (i think i mentioned why "Belchfire" and "P120" connect for me, before)
18:41:21 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/582830891462819881/IMG_20190528_030729.jpg
18:41:40 <Halcyon> I remember when I was in High School (Secondary school for you retardistanis), our entire student information DB was based on FM Pro
18:42:02 <Halcyon> Hehehe nice Ampera
18:42:03 <steve30> cool
18:42:11 <Halcyon> Ahhh OS/2
18:42:14 <Ampera> That's connecting to austnet via an OS/2 telnet client
18:42:19 <Ampera> which is not fun
18:42:26 <Halcyon> Heh
18:42:32 <Ampera> but speaking of old protocols, OS/2 has a Gopher client as standard
18:42:47 <steve30> Halcyon, my personal diary is a Filemaker pro 3 database. I've been using a PowerBook for it since 2008, but I've decided to migrate it to a thinkpad
18:42:58 <Halcyon> Love it :)
18:43:07 <Ampera> Well this copy of the VC runtimes I downloaded is in German
18:43:20 <Ampera> so I'm probably about to reenact a danoct1 episode
18:45:44 <Ampera> eh at least it works
18:45:48 <Ampera> I can use 7zip now
18:45:59 <Ampera> very slowly
18:46:41 * T3sl4 archives Ampera in a spider-silk cocoon plus injected venom
18:46:52 <Ampera> What does the Windows 95 resouce meter even meter?
18:47:09 <Ampera> I'm running 7zip, which should be putting the CPU under full load, and it says I have 94% of all resouces free
18:47:24 <Ampera> that shouldn't be true for memory nor CPU usage
18:49:54 <Halcyon> I'm surprised we haven't lost power yet. The wind is absolutely horrendous outside
18:50:15 <Ampera> what is "loose power"
18:50:19 <T3sl4> that's not the wind, that's just you
18:50:20 <T3sl4> you blow
18:50:27 <Ampera> nah, T3sl4, he sucks
18:50:30 <Halcyon> :P
18:50:34 <T3sl4> oh, hm
18:50:45 <Halcyon> I literally live in the bush (as in I'm surrounded by national park)
18:50:46 <Ampera> Well, I guess it's a sort of in and out, in and out kinda thing
18:50:54 <Ampera> Halcyon, you're surrounded by Australia?
18:50:56 <Ampera> that's shocking
18:51:02 <Halcyon> Trees oven come down in strong wind and short out feeder lines
18:51:14 <Halcyon> *often
18:51:27 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/uBGXMuU.gif
18:51:44 <Ampera> are those the beatles?
18:52:28 <Ampera> uncompressing an 80MB 7z file on this machine, elapsed time: 7 minutes
18:52:36 <Ampera> and it's still going
18:52:39 <Ampera> gonna be about 8 minutes
18:54:27 <Ampera> I'm upgrading this computer
18:54:30 <Ampera> from IE3 to IE5
19:02:38 <Ampera> gonna try out Microsoft Plus! for Windows 95, as I've never used it before.
19:03:12 <Ampera> you see it's the ! that makes it special
19:03:40 * T3sl4 BoBs Ampera
19:03:53 <Ampera> oh man I should install Microsoft BoB
19:04:01 <Ampera> just to say I've used it at least once
19:09:13 <Halcyon> Hahaha
19:09:53 <Ampera> IE5 is now installed, and I get to try something neat out
19:23:07 <steve30> I just got a royal mail card through the door saying a parcel is at no 12
19:25:06 <Halcyon> Another sex toy?
19:25:23 <steve30> probably my bike parts, given that I just got an email saying it has been delivered.
19:25:45 <Halcyon> Ahh
19:26:14 <Halcyon> Gees it's windy out. Gusting to about 80 KM/hr
19:27:42 <Halcyon> Looks like they are getting snow about 50KM west of me
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19:33:38 <Amperaa> heeeeeeee
19:33:59 <Amperaa> # Appears as ANNA
19:34:15 <Ampera> oh shit oh fuck
19:34:45 <Amperaa> Using Microsoft Comic Chat on Windows 95
19:35:09 <Amperaa> EEVBlog time
19:35:09 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 19:42 Sydney time.
19:35:52 <Halcyon> Hahah I love Comic Chat!
19:35:59 <Halcyon> I forgot you could use that on normal IRC servers
19:36:20 <Ampera> barely wants me to
19:36:36 <Ampera> hrm now I have a problem I need to get a screenshot off this machine
19:39:14 Quit: Amperaa ([email protected]) Connection closed
19:57:46 <K> hello
19:58:10 <Ampera> hello
19:58:10 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ampera!
19:58:13 <Ampera> I win
19:58:22 <K> yes.
20:03:29 <Halcyon> Hello EEVBlog
20:03:33 <Halcyon> Dammit
20:03:34 <Halcyon> Rude cunt
20:04:29 <EEVBlog> manger de la merde, Halcyon
20:05:17 <Halcyon> YAY! Special message from Ampera, ehemm, EEVBlog
20:05:53 <Ampera> manger de la merde, Halcyon
20:06:38 <Halcyon> YAY!
20:06:51 <Halcyon> My favourite confusesexual!
20:06:54 <Ampera> well this is Microsoft Plus! for Windows 95 then
20:07:04 <Ampera> I'm bisexual you fat fuck
20:07:11 <Halcyon> What was Plus? Just a bunch of themes and screen savers?
20:07:24 <Halcyon> Well you might be bi, but you also hate your penis
20:07:38 <Ampera> I don't hate my penis in the same way I don't hate you
20:07:51 <Halcyon> But you love me :P
20:07:59 <Ampera> that's gay
20:08:05 <Halcyon> Or is it bi?
20:09:14 <Halcyon> Bi-SENSUAL :P
20:09:27 <Halcyon> A bit like T3sl4
20:09:47 <Halcyon> I know he plays all macho and butch, but I reckon get him tipsy enough, he'll play gay chicken :P
20:17:37 <Ampera> yeah suck my feminine cock dad, I'm playing 3D pinball space cadet
20:20:05 <Halcyon> YAY!
20:20:30 <K> playing the game with your apendage hanging out?
20:38:39 <Halcyon> Ampera, would you like to try the Maple jerky?
22:19:52 <steve30> Halcyon, did you manage to get any printer ribbons?
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