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05:13:09 * T3sl4 am huggd
06:12:41 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVBlog - www.eevblog.com
06:12:41 Set By: (lego.jp.austnet.org) on: Sun Mar 17 01:18:37 2019
06:12:42 <Ampera> steve30, the EEVBot is particular about who it wants to say hello to.
06:12:42 <Ampera> hello, EEVBlog
06:12:42 <Ampera> see?
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06:12:42 <soulreap> hi EEVBlog
06:12:42 <Ampera> EEVBlog is stupid
06:12:42 <EEVBlog> If you keep saying that, I'm gonna hold you upside down and shake you until all the electrons fall out, Ampera!
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06:15:01 <Ampera> Services and EEVBot going down for maintenance, my website too
06:15:05 <Ampera> not that anyone should give a shit
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06:58:49 <steve30> i still can't get internet access on my main pc
06:58:49 <T3sl4> :(
06:58:49 <DHess_US> Have you tried turning it off and back on again?
06:58:49 <steve30> yup
06:58:49 <steve30> my bridge router isn't getting and IP from the downstairs router
06:58:49 <DHess_US> bridge router is a contradiction in terms
06:58:49 <steve30> DD-WRT running in bridge mode then
06:58:49 <steve30> (I think)
08:23:28 <!EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: And the random loser of the day award goes to some idiot who decided it was a good idea to try and fly kick The Terminator in the back https://t.co/6n9p3my3m9
08:23:28 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
08:23:28 <Halcyon> Dogwomble, isn't that just called masturbation?
08:23:28 <!DogWomble> not when I do it in a public chat room :p
08:23:28 <Halcyon> Sure sure
08:23:28 <Halcyon> Gah, I hate feeling like shit :(
08:23:28 <Halcyon> The really crap thing is, I have to go to work tomorrow, even if I'm feeling like death
08:23:28 <!DogWomble> "Hi there boss, did I tell you about the kidney transplant I was having this afternoon?"
08:23:28 <Halcyon> Oh it's only because I have to submit my performance review in the morning for my Sergeant's promotion
08:23:28 <Halcyon> Ordinarily I would have already called in sick
08:23:29 <!DogWomble> well at the moment it wood
08:23:29 <!DogWomble> would make life difficult if I called in sick, we need two people in at all times and I'm working weekday nights for the next few weeks
08:23:29 <Halcyon> You don't have a standby?
08:23:29 <!DogWomble> the standby would be the weekend staff don't an extra shift, if they're willing to do it
08:23:29 <!DogWomble> that tends to cause some grumbling
08:23:29 <Halcyon> Seems like poor planning by management
08:23:29 <Halcyon> We always have at least 2 on-call stuff rostered for every day
08:23:29 <Halcyon> Of course they get paid an allowance for doing so
08:23:29 <!DogWomble> yeah, I've made reference to that to management before
08:23:29 <Halcyon> They should have a business continuity plan to manage all that
08:23:29 <Halcyon> What if you get involve in a car crash on the way to work? What if the building floods?
08:23:29 <!DogWomble> yeah we have that. and we used to have 3 on nights so it used not to be an issue
08:23:29 <!DogWomble> they changed due to staffing levels during the day but they haven't changed back even with a few of us raising the issue
08:23:29 <steve30> hi
08:23:31 <Agripa> Fascinating, where is all this blood coming from.
08:23:31 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8ZqFlw6hYg
08:23:31 <Agripa> Gashed the knuckle of my thumb and didn't notice.
08:23:31 <Agripa> https://i.redd.it/f89g59pdq4z21.jpg
08:23:31 <Agripa> I wish they made bandaids which lasted more than a few months before the adhesive dries up.
08:23:31 <T3sl4> they do, it's called paper towel and masking tape
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10:14:32 <Halcyon> Morning all
10:14:36 <Halcyon> I'm sick :(
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10:23:27 <Ampera> hi sick, I'm Ampera
10:23:33 <Ampera> (Halcyon)
10:23:51 <Halcyon> :P
10:23:58 <Halcyon> I had to take today off
10:24:03 <Ampera> besides sick, how are you
10:24:10 <Halcyon> Yeh OK
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11:02:35 <Agripa> I did the flu two Tuesdays ago and am still recovering.
11:03:00 <Agripa> Alka-Seltzer cold and caugh was my friend.
11:03:10 <Agripa> Ran out of the good Nyquil.
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11:18:12 * T3sl4 wines at Halcyon
11:23:46 <Halcyon> I don't think mines the full blown flu
11:23:53 <Halcyon> Just a cold, but it's fucked me yesterday and today
11:24:49 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon a warm blanket
11:25:01 <Halcyon> Now I'm too hot
11:25:24 * T3sl4 gives Halcyon a glass of ice water
11:25:32 <Halcyon> Now I'm too cold
11:25:40 <Halcyon> I have my wool socks on
11:25:43 <Halcyon> :D
11:25:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: EEVblog #1213 – The Oscilloscope Interpolation Trap! https://t.co/Va0CrKfFL2
11:25:54 <T3sl4> well i guess it socks to be you then
11:26:04 * Ampera socks Halcyon in the jaw
11:26:11 <Ampera> if you can't make it, better, then make it worse
11:26:26 <Halcyon> I'm having a coffee. Will see if I can stomach it
11:28:24 <Agripa> Originally I thought I just had a cold.
11:29:45 <Ampera> My stuff is an antihistamine at night, Aspirin during the day, and when the cold is on its way out, Mucinex DM to clean up all the mucous crap
11:31:41 <Halcyon> Yeh I took an antihistamine to knock me out last night, it kind of worked
11:31:53 <Ampera> When it works it's the best
11:32:13 <Ampera> for me it either does nothing, or knock me out cold
11:36:10 <Agripa> I'm on Mucinex DM right now and I'm not convinced it does anything for me.
11:37:18 <Agripa> I'm only using it because I had a bunch of doctor samples.
11:37:30 <Ampera> Agripa, liquid version works better
11:37:34 <Agripa> I thought it might help with the recovery from broncitis and pneumonia.
11:37:44 <Ampera> It's for mucous, not coughing
11:37:54 <Ampera> it just thins mucous and makes coughing softer and easier to do
11:37:58 <Ampera> so you're not hacking as much
11:38:15 <Agripa> Dextromethorpan 30mg ... Cough supressant
11:38:29 <DHess_US> Wine gives me a migrain.
11:38:29 <T3sl4> that sucks
11:38:29 <DHess_US> Yup
11:38:29 <DHess_US> Champagne is even worse for me.
11:38:29 <T3sl4> not just cheap / sulfites?
11:38:29 <DHess_US> No, not the sulfites.
11:38:29 <T3sl4> Shampain*
11:38:29 <DogWomble> the reason i don't drink it often, cheap white wine tends to send me to sleep
11:38:29 <DogWomble> i kinda feel like dozing off if i have more than about a glass of it
11:38:30 <DHess_US> White wine possibly wouldn't but I haven't tested it.
11:38:30 <T3sl4> that sounds useful, if not particularly party-appropriate :P
11:38:30 <DHess_US> Last time I check, it was something in the grape skins. Some grape juices can give me a migrain also.
11:38:30 <DHess_US> Tannins?
11:38:30 <T3sl4> those shouldn't be causing anything more than digestive problems though
11:38:30 <T3sl4> i wonder if it's anything to do with the toxins that cats and dogs can't eat?
11:38:30 <T3sl4> not usually a problem in humans, but maybe not all?
11:38:30 <DHess_US> Migrain triggers tend to be very specific.
11:38:30 <DHess_US> When I say cause, I mean really cause. 15 minutes after drinking champaigne or wine I can feel it.
11:38:30 <T3sl4> i believe it
11:38:30 <DHess_US> But it isn't alcohol in general. Tequila and beer are fine.
11:38:30 <DogWomble> one tequila two tequila three tequila floor?
11:38:30 <DHess_US> Naw, I can go way past three tequila.
11:38:30 <DHess_US> Oldie but goodie, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eceSHKqwUPY
11:38:30 <T3sl4> 4:50 keith richards reference, i'd say that's dated, but he still hasn't died yet, despite looking ever closer to it
11:38:30 <T3sl4> so, i'd dare say that joke works ever better with time
11:38:30 <DogWomble> i swear, if the nuclear apocalypse comes, the only things that will survive are cockraoches and keith richards
11:38:30 <T3sl4> :D
11:38:30 <T3sl4> DHess_US: what's your favorite tequila?
11:38:37 <Ampera> which is completely useless
11:38:38 <Agripa> Exactly my symptom
11:38:40 <Ampera> it doesn't do anything
11:38:49 <Ampera> and is also in regular DayQuil and NyQuil
11:39:07 <Agripa> NyQuil is dead to me.
11:39:09 <Ampera> Literally, and especially at the doses you would use, it's iirc, proven ineffective.
11:39:24 <Ampera> it knocks me out, besides that, it does 0
11:40:03 <Agripa> It used to. But since they removed pseudoephedrine from it, it is useless for me.
11:40:19 <Agripa> That's why I said I used up the last of my "good" Myquil.
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11:40:48 <Ampera> then just get pseudophedrine
11:40:54 <Ampera> afaik it's still OTC
11:41:03 <Agripa> Have to go through the inquisition here and get put on a list.
11:41:11 <Ampera> where are you
11:41:15 <Agripa> I have some but it isn't the same.
11:41:19 <Agripa> Missouri
11:41:38 <Ampera> is that a Missouri thing, or is it no longer federally OTC?
11:41:51 <Agripa> It varies state to state.
11:42:13 <Ampera> ah
11:42:23 <Ampera> hey you're in the same state as Aging Wheels
11:42:25 <Ampera> that's neat
11:42:26 <Agripa> There might be additional federal rules now but it still varies state to state.
11:42:51 <DHess_US> T3sl4, https://cuervo.com/products/jose-cuervo-tradicional-reposado/
11:42:53 <DHess_US> of course
11:43:22 <T3sl4> ah, nice
11:43:22 <Agripa> It is just as well because the acetominifen doesn't do do anything for me anyway so Alka seltzer cold and cough is actually better.
11:43:51 <Agripa> But it would be nice to stop dry coughing.
11:44:02 <DHess_US> My bottle only says 200 years.
11:44:10 <Ampera> Paracetamol doesn't do much for me, but it goes well with Aspirin
11:44:11 <Agripa> I guess I would just drink alcohol. Alcohol is a fine cough supressant.
11:44:29 <Agripa> Yea, it doesn't work well for me either.
11:44:34 <Agripa> Naproxin does though.
11:44:39 <Ampera> never tried that
11:44:41 <T3sl4> hah
11:45:02 <Agripa> I have a horded bottle of ketoprofin. I wish that was still available.
11:45:05 <Ampera> between Paracetamol, Ibuprofen, and Aspirin, Aspirin is the only thing that does anything
11:45:13 <Agripa> It was the only OTC thing I found which sort of worked on my migrains.
11:45:29 <DHess_US> If I was a drinking person, it would be strawberry margaritas every night.
11:45:31 <Agripa> I found naproxin to work as well as asprin and for longer.
11:45:45 <Ampera> I don't have migranes
11:45:57 <T3sl4> you'd quickly run out of that "200" bottle at that rate, though
11:46:29 <Agripa> I mean for normal ones and to treat inflammation.
11:46:41 <Agripa> But I usually use asprin because it is so much less expensive.
11:46:47 <DHess_US> Eh, it doesn't get better with age and it isn't that expensive.
11:46:58 <Agripa> Naproxin is ... brand name Aleve.
11:47:05 <DHess_US> Plus, cheap tequila works fine in margaritas.
11:47:26 <Agripa> Ketoprofin was Orudis KT before they pulled it from sale.
11:47:29 <Ampera> Never used it
11:48:27 <DHess_US> I haven't even checked the cheap tequila prices around here but they can't be that high.
11:49:35 <T3sl4> grain alcohol and flavorings is pretty cheap
11:49:36 <Agripa> I bought a bottle of each at one point and did a blind test over a couple months.
11:50:14 <Agripa> Acetominiphen was less than useless. Ibuprofen was eh. Asprin worked. Naproxin worked.
11:50:15 <Ampera> how did your blind yourself to pill shape?
11:50:34 <Agripa> By forgetting.
11:50:47 <Agripa> They were all the same brand.
11:50:58 <Ampera> so were they the same shape?
11:50:59 <Agripa> i.e. house branded and not name branded
11:53:14 <DHess_US> Still get taxed though.
11:53:50 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txm7eu8KxVI
11:53:53 <T3sl4> the price in comparison is still pretty crazy, despite that
11:54:13 <T3sl4> not that you'd want to use that rubbing alcohol/burnt rubber shit internally, or really for much at all in general
11:54:24 <T3sl4> bottom shelf vodka, i mean
11:54:55 <T3sl4> Ah, classic NileRed
11:55:19 <DHess_US> Run it through activated charcoal and then distill it. The tax has already been paid.
11:55:32 <DHess_US> Hmm, I guess distill it first.
11:56:33 <DHess_US> I've heard of people using those Brita water filter things.
11:57:15 <T3sl4> mythbusters did that, apparently it works
11:57:24 <DHess_US> Ah, so they did.
11:57:54 <Halcyon> Ampera, how much do you like Chilli or Piri Piri ?
11:58:14 <Ampera> Never had Piri Piri, and depends on what you mean by Chilli
11:58:33 <Halcyon> I'm ordering jerky for you
11:58:49 <Ampera> both sound good
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11:59:15 <Halcyon> I'll see what they have in stock. Got you some Kangaroo jerky :P
11:59:17 <DHess_US> I always wanted them to test if cedar keeps bugs away but they never did, not enough explosives I guess.
11:59:34 <T3sl4> hm, probably
11:59:45 <T3sl4> what if it was nitrated cedar
11:59:48 <Halcyon> Or do you prefer pepper steak over chilli?
12:00:02 <DHess_US> Kind of hard on the clothes.
12:00:14 <Ampera> Not a huge fan of peppered jerky
12:00:24 <Ampera> but I don't mind any of it basically
12:00:40 <Ampera> poultry jerkies can be a bit iffy, but I'll still eat and enjoy them
12:01:06 <Halcyon> Okies. I'll definitely send you a Kangaroo one, I actually liked it more than beef
12:01:35 <T3sl4> think i still have a few shirts where the cotton melted away but the poly blend remained
12:01:40 <Ampera> I've never had kangaroo, so that will be interesting.
12:01:50 <Halcyon> Some people describe it as "gamey"
12:01:55 <T3sl4> though i never had much nitric, that was due to sulfuric
12:02:15 <T3sl4> that was also about a decade ago since i had a basement i could do chemistry in :(
12:02:36 <Halcyon> It's quite tough and chewy in jerky form
12:02:55 <Ampera> I don't mind gamey, but yeah I'd expect that
12:03:30 <DHess_US> nylon and polyester aren't particularly resistant to sulphuric acid.
12:03:41 <T3sl4> cotton less, though
12:03:41 <Halcyon> I'm having trouble locating sweets you would like, since you probably have most of it over there
12:04:44 <Ampera> if it's sour I like it
12:04:47 <Ampera> unless it's warheads
12:04:50 <Ampera> then not so much
12:04:51 <DHess_US> Wear cotton when working with bases, and wear wool when working with acids.
12:04:58 <Halcyon> Yeh not a fan of those myself either
12:04:59 <Ampera> fruit flavours too, not a big fan of chocolate
12:05:00 <T3sl4> pretty much
12:05:04 <Halcyon> They make your teeth feel funny
12:05:09 <Halcyon> Do you like licorice?
12:05:13 <Ampera> warhead is like 9v battery to the tongue
12:05:17 <Ampera> I hate licorice
12:05:22 <Halcyon> Mint?
12:05:34 <Ampera> depends, mint chocolate, not so much because of the chocolate
12:05:36 <T3sl4> better to just not work with acid inside, there's still a few fixtures in the house that are rusted from HCl fumes
12:05:38 <Ampera> mint gum is good
12:05:41 <Halcyon> But like mint candies
12:05:42 <Ampera> I love altoids
12:06:06 <Halcyon> Do you guys have "Minties" over there?
12:06:25 <Ampera> Don't worry too much about stuff I'd like, I see this more as a chance to try interesting other things I wouldn't otherwise, and in particular to get an idea of what you like
12:06:29 <Ampera> never heard of them
12:06:32 <Ampera> so no
12:06:37 <Halcyon> Okies
12:06:48 <Ampera> lol, we do, it's a dog treat
12:06:52 <Halcyon> I just want to avoid things you can buy there, hardly any point sending those across the globe
12:06:59 <Halcyon> Hahaha
12:07:24 <Ampera> I didn't worry much about it, I'm fairly sure you can get Mambas there if you look in the right place, same with nerds and mike&ikes
12:07:27 <Ampera> which are basically jellybeans
12:07:46 <Halcyon> Nerds are everyone
12:07:51 <Halcyon> Never had Mike & Ikes
12:07:56 <Halcyon> I actually liked those
12:08:08 <Ampera> They're kinda amplified jelly beans
12:08:13 <Halcyon> Yup
12:08:31 <Ampera> minties look kinda like gum
12:08:32 <Halcyon> The texture and chewiness was perfect too
12:08:33 <Ampera> or giant altoids
12:08:53 <Halcyon> Yeh kind of
12:09:02 <Halcyon> It's hard to explain, they are hard without being powdery
12:09:07 <Ampera> yeah they look good
12:09:13 <Halcyon> Almost like a stretched candy I guess?
12:09:18 <Ampera> taffy?
12:09:29 <Halcyon> Yes but much much harder/chewier
12:09:37 <Ampera> wether's originals?
12:09:38 <Ampera> lol
12:09:41 <Ampera> *werther's
12:09:43 <Halcyon> Hahah
12:09:47 <Halcyon> You old fart
12:09:52 <Ampera> my grandfather ate those
12:10:03 <Ampera> caramels, I don't mind them, but I can get those at Aldi
12:10:10 <Halcyon> *nod*
12:10:26 <Ampera> Do you guys have McVities over there?
12:10:32 <Ampera> like their line of products
12:10:42 <Halcyon> Yeh, as in their biscuits?
12:11:15 <Ampera> only if there's ample room, stick some Jaffa Cakes in there, McVities if you can get them.
12:11:23 <Halcyon> Yeh they are common here
12:11:27 <Halcyon> I can definitely do that
12:11:29 <Ampera> they are impossible to get here, and even though Aldi on occasion sells their own brand ones, they aren't as good
12:11:40 <Ampera> only if there's ample space, because I've already had them before
12:11:57 <Ampera> it's just that the US is a no-go for orangey spongecakes
12:12:11 <Halcyon> I don't think I've ever had one. Might buy myself a box too
12:12:22 <Halcyon> Walked past them a thousand times in the shop
12:13:15 <Ampera> Halcyon, don't, for one good reason
12:13:26 <Ampera> if you do, your effective income will be halved
12:13:30 <Ampera> and you will get very, very fat.
12:13:33 <Halcyon> Hahaha
12:13:47 <Halcyon> I'm not big on sweets anyway, so I can control myself :P
12:14:18 <Ampera> I honestly am not a big fan of Jaffa Cakes, but I keep eating them and wanting to eat them
12:14:21 <Ampera> it's the strangest damn thing
12:14:50 <Ampera> I also recently tried milanos recently, I had orange milanos, which were quite good
12:14:51 <Halcyon> You are a strange thing Ampera
12:14:55 <Ampera> then I had raspberry ones which were awful
12:15:03 <Halcyon> Those Mint Milano's you sent are all gone
12:15:10 <Halcyon> They were delicious :P
12:15:36 <Ampera> is there even anything left
12:15:41 <Halcyon> I really didn't like those pretzel pieces though. Waaaaay over the top on seasoning and it was very artificial.
12:15:41 <Ampera> I presume you didn't eat the SCSI card
12:15:48 <Halcyon> I had a nibble :P
12:15:52 <Ampera> Halcyon, that's almost high treason in the US
12:16:10 <Ampera> anyways, blame jspiros, he suggested them
12:16:20 <Halcyon> :P I recall
12:16:26 <Ampera> I find myself with the opposite problem, with them being too weak
12:16:30 <Halcyon> I like the plain Parkers Pretzels
12:16:52 <Ampera> so just regular pretzels
12:17:09 <Halcyon> They just had a weird after taste, kind of chemicaly? But your fingers ended up orange after a short time
12:17:23 <Halcyon> Also they felt almost moist without being moist... perhaps all the fat?
12:17:29 <Ampera> you see I've heard chemically used to describe food before
12:17:31 <Ampera> but I've never sensed that
12:17:55 <Ampera> I find they just don't have enough of the sauce seasoning whatever
12:18:06 <Halcyon> I guess the most common example is lemon flavour. It's often very artificial and strange, but with a resemblance to actual lemon.
12:18:15 <Ampera> like the lemon mambas?
12:18:23 <Halcyon> Yeh
12:18:35 <Ampera> I don't see that
12:18:51 <Ampera> to me it tastes like artificial lemon, but not particularly /chemically/
12:19:03 <Halcyon> Almost tastes like the smell of dishwashing detergent, if you understand what I'm getting at
12:19:12 <Ampera> probably from me being American, artificial flavours run in my veins
12:19:14 <Halcyon> My head is full of mucous so I'm not even sure what I'm talking abou
12:19:15 <Halcyon> t
12:19:23 <Ampera> dishwashing detergent?
12:19:31 <Halcyon> Yeh like the liquid soap
12:19:36 <Ampera> yeah I know what it is
12:19:40 <Ampera> I just don't get that
12:19:56 <Ampera> did you watch ESC, Halcyon?
12:20:02 <Halcyon> ESC ?
12:20:08 <Ampera> Eurovision Song Contest
12:20:24 <Halcyon> Oh, nah. I don't even have a TV antenna.
12:20:33 <Halcyon> FTA and Pay TV is shit in the country
12:20:39 <Ampera> no TV at all?
12:20:56 <Ampera> it's showed on SBS
12:21:04 <Halcyon> I have a physical TV in the living room but everything I watch is either off the internet or my own server
12:21:12 <Halcyon> I don't watch commercial television at all
12:21:20 <Ampera> anyways, it's a livestream on YouTube
12:21:27 <Ampera> doesn't matter if you do or don't
12:21:28 <Halcyon> Oh right, no I didn't watch it
12:21:41 <Ampera> watched the whole thing with the people in the afternet channel
12:21:41 <Halcyon> I'm not really all that involved with it
12:22:06 <Halcyon> I think it's on at some strange time over here though isn't it?
12:22:10 <Halcyon> Like early in the morning
12:22:35 <Ampera> they also have it to watch any time on YouTUbe
12:22:41 <Ampera> you could still watch it, both semis and the final
12:23:08 <Halcyon> Meh, it's like sports. No real interest but sometimes there are hot guys on it :P
12:23:09 <Ampera> you can see the Icelandic team flying Palestinian flags
12:24:14 <Halcyon> I like their ESC party recipe ideas though: https://www.sbs.com.au/food/blog/2019/05/06/your-eurovision-party-menu-thanks-past-10-winners
12:24:17 <Halcyon> They look delicious
12:24:54 <Ampera> First is stupid
12:24:55 <Halcyon> Not sure about the Swedish sandwich cake though
12:25:00 <Ampera> Second is alright
12:25:06 <Ampera> Third is what
12:25:12 <Ampera> Fourth is stupid
12:25:22 <Ampera> Fifth is huh
12:25:34 <Ampera> Sixth is come on
12:25:50 <Ampera> Seventh is probably the closest to a party food, but is still awful
12:26:01 <Halcyon> Hahah
12:26:04 <Halcyon> You are so judgey
12:26:11 <Ampera> Eigth looks like clam dippers, but stupider
12:26:22 <Ampera> 9 and 10 are alright
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12:27:35 <Halcyon> Is there any tech you want that I might have that I can send you?
12:27:44 <Halcyon> Seeing are you were super sweet and sent me a SCSI card
12:28:49 <Ampera> not in particular, if you can think of something, feel free to throw it in, but the SCSI card was just because you needed something like that
12:29:09 <Halcyon> Something for your vintage machines maybe?
12:30:25 <Ampera> can't think of much, not unless you have a spare nForce 4 SLI board with a 939 socket that hasn't shit itself
12:30:46 <Halcyon> I don't have any AMD boards
12:30:51 <Halcyon> All mine are Intel
12:30:58 <Halcyon> (or Cyrix)
12:31:39 <Ampera> yeah then idk, if you can think of something, throw it in or offer it, but I'm not expecting anything.
12:31:52 <Halcyon> Okies. I'll rummage around.
12:37:49 <Ampera> you go do that
12:37:52 <Ampera> wash your hands after
12:37:57 <Halcyon> Always do :P
12:40:22 <Halcyon> I'm going to to lay down for a bit and watch Big Clive
12:41:32 <Ampera> ciao, enjoy watching your bear shows
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13:53:54 <Halcyon> Ampera do you like Coke?
13:53:59 <Halcyon> Or Pepsi?
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13:55:07 <Ampera> if you're getting coke gummies, I've already had them
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13:55:30 <Halcyon> I was going to send you Australian coke, which apparently is different due to the lack of corn syrup
13:55:52 <Ampera> Don't bother, I can get that here way cheaper
13:56:05 <Halcyon> Suit yourself then
13:56:08 <Ampera> Mexico or European coke
13:56:22 <Ampera> also a pressurized carbonated beverage going across the world doesn't sound like an amazing idea
13:56:34 <Ampera> no I appreaciate it, it's just that it might not be a great idea to ship it like that
13:56:38 <Halcyon> Should be fine in a glass bottle
13:56:52 <Halcyon> Cans could get puntured
13:56:58 <Halcyon> punctured
13:57:19 <Ampera> glass breaks
13:57:28 <Ampera> and the tops literally fall off
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14:29:42 <Halcyon> Got a pic?
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14:46:32 <Halcyon> Ampera, I just tried my first Jaffa cake
14:46:37 <Halcyon> Can't say I'm a fan
14:48:16 <Halcyon> Ampera, come and pull my bins in for me
14:48:42 <Ampera> Halcyon, sure, I'll get right on that
14:49:00 <Halcyon> Cheers :)
14:49:03 <Halcyon> I can't be bothered
14:49:41 <Ampera> just stick them ontop of a roomba
14:49:45 <Ampera> boom, auto bins
14:49:54 <Halcyon> I mean my outside wheely bins
14:49:59 <Halcyon> They would crush my Roomba
14:58:23 <Halcyon> <DHess_US> Wear cotton when working with bases, and wear wool when working with acids.
14:58:25 <Halcyon> Why is that?
14:58:36 * Ampera hot snots all over Halcyon
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14:59:58 <Halcyon> Burnies
15:00:37 <Ampera> Halcyon, get a super roomba
15:04:23 <DHess_US> Teal'c would approve.
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15:30:35 <T3sl4> Halcyon: cotton is hydrolyzed (broken down into sugar units) by acid, especially sulfuric acid which dries up somewhat in air, becoming more concentrated (but never drying, because it's a liquid)
15:31:25 <T3sl4> conversely, wool consists of proteins, amino acid chains, which are hydrolyzed by strong base; this is why after handling a strong base, your fingers feel so dry and crusty
15:31:44 <Halcyon> Ahh there you go
15:31:51 <Halcyon> I'm learnding
15:33:57 <T3sl4> hydrolysis works for acid OR base, for the most part -- it's the availability of water (i.e., a solution of something) plus the availability of "half water" as it were (as acid or base ions, balanced by the opposite ions of somethingium/somethingate) which are able to attack the links between those units
15:35:30 <T3sl4> incidentally, base is much worse in the body, particularly in sensitive areas like the eyes or mucous membranes -- flesh has a fair tolerance for low (acidic) pH, and has some buffering capacity; but high pH instantly forms soaps from fats and fatty acids (hence the slippery feel), and doesn't have any other buffering capacity
15:35:51 <Halcyon> Makes sense
15:36:33 <T3sl4> so, a splash of NaOH in the eyes will probably leave you blind, while a splash of HNO3 may sting incredibly badly and leave a yellow-tinted layer of burned (and partially nitrated) skin, which simply sloughs off
15:36:49 <T3sl4> either way though... i do recommend wearing goggles while practicing chemistry :P
15:37:09 <T3sl4> brutal, https://i.pinimg.com/originals/6e/be/c3/6ebec34d97a1d37b48f78e54799d30e6.jpg
15:37:37 <T3sl4> or more light heartedly, https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BKvCKO5CYAAWWZw.jpg :P
15:37:58 <Halcyon> I tend not to do much chemistry
15:38:08 <Halcyon> Most I tend to handle is Isopropanol
15:38:30 <Halcyon> Although I did get pretty bad blistering at work after PCB cleaner got under my gloves
15:42:57 <Ampera> Halcyon, idk if I said this, but my computer now, 14 seconds +/- 1 from me pressing the power button to me being at my desktop.
15:44:27 <Halcyon> You did mention
15:44:32 <Halcyon> Remember, I said SSD's would do that :P
15:44:51 <Halcyon> My boot time is fast, but my POST time is horrendous.
15:45:00 <Halcyon> It's probably a good minute from power button to start of boot
15:45:22 <Halcyon> Also encryption slows things down as I have to enter two passwords
15:47:33 <Halcyon> ALSO, I hate the chick that has made an appearance on "The King of Random" Youtube channel. She offers absolutely nothing useful. She just stands there going "Ohh wow" and "that's amazing" every few seconds.
15:57:08 <DHess_US> My windows 10 test system is Hitler.
15:57:15 <Ampera> I disabled any POST functionality
15:57:26 <Ampera> I have no encryption, and no userland password
15:57:32 <Halcyon> By POST I mean all the initialisation etc. as well
15:57:34 <Ampera> well, at least not for initial login
15:57:37 <Halcyon> Not just memory tests and such
15:57:43 <Ampera> by POST I mean POST
15:57:46 <Ampera> and most initialization
15:58:17 <Halcyon> "POST" although refers to the self-tests, it's also commonly referred to as "the bit before boot"
15:58:39 <Ampera> The EFI doesn't initialize anything besides USB, and even that I could probably turn off, and storage.
15:58:52 <Halcyon> I don't even get video for the first 15 seconds or so
15:59:03 <Halcyon> Mind you, this is a server, it's not designed to be shut down all the time
15:59:16 <Ampera> GRUB is modified to not show an interface, and any and all boot messages are silenced. 14 seconds from power button down, I have a desktop, nothing more, nothing less.
15:59:34 <Ampera> I don't even have a BIOS prompt.
15:59:39 <Ampera> *setup menu
16:00:19 <Halcyon> I don't use UEFI, I prefer the old BIOS method
16:00:41 <Ampera> For booting or you don't have UEFI.
16:00:47 <Halcyon> For booting
16:00:49 <Ampera> If you have UEFI, you have UEFI, you cannot just use BIOS.
16:00:56 <Halcyon> Most machines you can switch
16:01:16 <Halcyon> For example, all our Dell laptops at work can work either in UEFI or BIOS
16:01:17 <Ampera> You can switch how it boots, you cannot switch from an EFI to a traditional BIOS in most instances.
16:01:35 <Ampera> That's for booting, that's not an option to change firmwares.
16:02:13 <Ampera> UEFI is a cross-platform standard for firmwares, including a standard means of bootings and accessing information, with even a standardized command line that is offerd on most EFI platforms.
16:02:28 <DHess_US> Damnit, 9 SATA ports and now every one is occupied.
16:03:06 <Ampera> BIOS was a piece of software written by IBM in 1981, with specific real mode functions baked in, and code to load the first sector of a bootable drive into memory, and then start executing, with various clones and additions made therein.
16:03:37 <Ampera> If your machine uses UEFI, it will simply boot like BIOS does, and offer the same real mode interfaces as a BIOS, but it is not a PC compatible BIOS.
16:03:51 <Halcyon> I guess what I'm saying is, UEFI can act in a legacy mode
16:03:59 <Ampera> correct.
16:04:06 <Halcyon> Essentially emulating old BIOS
16:04:35 <Ampera> regardless, I'm not sure if GPT offers an interface for sector 1 booting, afaik it does, but I regardless use EFI booting.
16:04:59 <Halcyon> *shrug*
16:05:46 <Ampera> What partition table do you use?
16:10:13 <Halcyon> I don't recall, how to I find out in terminal?
16:18:24 <steve30> hi Halcyon
16:19:14 <Halcyon> Heya
16:19:54 <steve30> https://www.pof.com/viewprofile.aspx?profile_id=243436782
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16:21:18 <Ampera> Halcyon, http://i.prntscr.com/coA03tvbQAKYCyl06JFAxw.png
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16:25:46 <Halcyon> dos
16:26:45 <Ampera> that's MBR
16:27:04 <Halcyon> There you go
16:27:20 <Ampera> Issue with MBR is that it's limited to 2TiB
16:27:34 <Halcyon> It's only a 256GB SSD, so I'm not concerned
16:27:43 <Halcyon> My data drive is GPT
16:27:44 <Ampera> Neither am I, but mine is 1TB
16:29:10 <Halcyon> This bread looks fucking amazing, but also looks so bad for you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc3coiL36Cg
16:31:39 <Ampera> Halcyon, welcome to America.
16:31:59 <Halcyon> I'm more of a sourdough/seedy bread person myself
16:32:02 <Halcyon> White bread has no taste
16:32:07 <Ampera> It's basically a nicer version of our Italian bread.
16:32:16 <Ampera> Perhaps not yours, our white bread tastes like cake.
16:32:27 <Halcyon> Yeh because it's full of sugar
16:32:33 <Ampera> Corn syrup you commie scum
16:32:55 <Ampera> That's what happens when you buy our cheap bread, though, we have real bread.
16:33:22 <Ampera> Not a big fan of sourdough, with seeds being a take it or leave it.
16:33:28 <Halcyon> Even worse!
16:33:54 <Ampera> For me, bread is all about the texture, it has to be hard as a rock on the outside, soft as dough on the inside.
16:34:50 <Halcyon> Yeh I love that kind of texture
16:34:58 <Halcyon> That's why I like sourdough (apart from the taste)
16:35:02 <Halcyon> It's often like that
16:35:17 <Halcyon> Gives your mouth a workout
16:37:04 <Ampera> you like giving your mouth a workout
16:37:18 <Halcyon> I was waiting for such a comment :P
16:37:27 <Halcyon> I half-expected to be T3sl4
16:38:09 <Ampera> Halcyon, neither you nor I are anything if not predictible.
16:38:35 <Halcyon> :P
16:38:37 <Ampera> I've been watching The Man in the High Castle.
16:38:46 <Halcyon> Never heard of it
16:38:55 <Ampera> amazon prime serial drama
16:39:01 <Ampera> about the world if the axis powers won WW2
16:39:02 <Halcyon> Ah right
16:39:08 <Halcyon> Sounds interesting
16:39:58 <Ampera> Do you have Amazon Prime?
16:40:04 <Halcyon> Nope
16:40:06 <Halcyon> I'll just torrent it
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16:40:25 <Ampera> You get more than just a show, they're now doing no added charge 1 day shipping on some items.
16:40:34 <Ampera> I ordered an SD card and got it the next day
16:40:41 <Halcyon> I don't use Amazon all that much
16:40:53 <Ampera> We use it extensively
16:41:05 <steve30> o/
16:41:12 <Halcyon> I have been known to use it from time to time
16:41:14 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)(
16:41:15 <Halcyon> :)
16:41:16 <Ampera> steve30, please, don't heil hitler in here
16:41:30 <Halcyon> Hehehe
16:43:25 <Ampera> I rode something today, Halcyon.
16:43:34 <Ampera> Something big, hard, and black that made my ass sore.
16:43:41 <Halcyon> ROFL
16:43:47 <Halcyon> I know you're baiting me :P
16:43:52 <Halcyon> What was it?
16:44:01 <Ampera> a bike
16:44:07 <Halcyon> OK
16:44:10 <Halcyon> :)
16:44:19 <Ampera> was actually yesterday, it's 02:51 right now
16:44:27 <Ampera> rode for 4 miles to my school and back
16:45:14 <Halcyon> You'll have buns of steel in no time
16:45:17 <Halcyon> Like Steve
16:45:18 <Halcyon> :p
16:45:42 <Ampera> I already have a fat ass
16:46:08 <Halcyon> More cushion for the pushing :P
16:46:08 <Ampera> had to go to my school to sort out some details with our free tuition program
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16:48:04 <Ampera> anyways, for whatever reason, my back is killing me, so I'm gonna go lay down
16:48:12 <Halcyon> Alright dear
16:48:17 <Ampera> good night friends, and that guy I hate
16:48:26 <steve30> I should go to the gym this morning
16:50:46 <steve30> i need to pop out for a bit of shoppig this morning
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16:53:33 <Halcyon> What are you buying Steve?
16:53:46 <steve30> groceries
16:56:11 <Halcyon> LUBE?
16:56:25 <Halcyon> To get out of those tight pants of yours?
16:57:01 <steve30> food
16:57:09 <Halcyon> :P
17:02:44 <steve30> I'll call at the coffee shop as well
17:06:36 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
17:10:16 <DHess_US> I should set Molly Scott Cato on fire with my mind this morning.
17:13:32 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
17:13:42 <Ampera> and just watch, you ate one and you hate it
17:13:57 <Ampera> but in a week your floor will have a nice jaffa cake box and wrapper bedding to it
17:14:56 <Halcyon> :P
17:15:12 <Halcyon> I just didn't enjoy it, I wouldn't buy them again
17:15:15 <DHess_US> Was the jaffa cake made with real jaffas?
17:15:30 <Halcyon> It was the Mcvities one
17:15:50 <Ampera> idk if they use jaffa oranges for that
17:16:15 <Ampera> they probably use some sort of chemical bullshit derived from 50% RoundUp and 50% Elephant's Foot
17:16:16 <DHess_US> jaffa oranges? Oh, I was thinking of a different jaffa. Nevermind.
17:20:13 <DHess_US> hehe, Dave rediscovers aliasing.
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17:20:41 <Halcyon> steve30: You sure that guy is 18 ?
17:20:48 <Halcyon> He looks 16
17:22:13 <steve30> he's 22
17:22:26 <Ampera> Say Hey is a gay ass name
17:25:21 <steve30> I notice plentyoffish doesn't show the full profile any more if you're not logged in
17:31:00 * Ampera shines a 15W IR laser at Halcyon
17:34:33 <Halcyon> Oww, shiny
17:34:44 <Ampera> my new mouse uses an IR laser
17:34:54 <Ampera> obviously not a 15W one, as my table would quickly burst into flames
17:35:21 * Halcyon coughs all over the channel
17:35:46 * Ampera phelgms all over Halcyon
17:37:00 <Halcyon> Today's the first day I've been about to breathe through my nose
17:37:12 <Halcyon> I've been all congested since the weekend :(
17:38:09 * Ampera turns the toilet handle on the back of Halcyon's head
17:38:33 <Halcyon> Toilet... handle... ?
17:39:12 <Ampera> do you fucks have retarded european toilets with the stupid buttons?
17:39:16 <steve30> yay breathing :)
17:39:19 <Halcyon> Yup
17:39:42 <Halcyon> Dual-flush toilets have been standard design for decades
17:39:46 <Ampera> https://i.ytimg.com/vi/xUURWtP0bjo/maxresdefault.jpg
17:39:50 <Ampera> These are our toilets
17:39:55 <Halcyon> Weird
17:39:58 <Ampera> yes, you are
17:40:12 <Halcyon> Doesn't the pee splash the handle, then you touch it?
17:40:22 <Ampera> no?
17:40:29 <Halcyon> Like microscopic bits
17:40:48 <Ampera> I mean I never measured the blast radius of urine
17:40:52 <steve30> Ampera, do you guys have toilets with a chain to pull at all? We have them but they aren't very common any more.
17:41:01 <Ampera> steve30, no, that's a french thing
17:41:09 <Halcyon> The chain ones are mostly for urinals
17:41:20 <Halcyon> The modern ones use sensors in the roof
17:41:22 <Ampera> urinals have handles like a toilet
17:41:44 <Ampera> the sensor urinals also have buttons, which I always use, because the sensor will never work
17:41:52 <Ampera> and because I'm terrified of a toilet that flushes itself
17:42:04 <Halcyon> Well, it shouldn't flush when you're there
17:42:08 <Halcyon> It's when you walk away it does
17:42:10 <steve30> My local barber shop has a traditional toilet with a chain :)
17:42:14 <Ampera> https://www.mikeszone.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/bathroom1.jpg
17:42:27 <Ampera> this is what a urinal looks like (and some toilets)
17:42:44 <Halcyon> Yeh handles are very uncommon here
17:43:04 <Halcyon> It's generally 2 buttons
17:43:23 <Ampera> I wouldn't be surprised if that exists nowhere in the US
17:43:38 <steve30> ours has 1 button
17:43:42 <Ampera> question two, do you guys put plungers next to your toilets (in your homes)
17:43:47 <Halcyon> Nope
17:43:51 <Ampera> we do
17:43:54 <Halcyon> Never had the need to use a plunger
17:43:56 <steve30> no, we don't own a plunger
17:44:02 <Ampera> we own three plungers
17:44:05 <Ampera> for three toilets
17:44:20 <Halcyon> Is it common for them to get blocked?
17:44:28 <Ampera> but ususally only needed if some asshole unloads the entire roll of toilet paper into the shitter
17:44:31 <Ampera> not really
17:44:33 <Halcyon> I mean you can buy them at hardware stores, but I've never owned one
17:45:09 <Ampera> but they're also good for drains without an in-sink erator.
17:45:29 <Halcyon> We don't put food down our drains though
17:45:40 <Ampera> we don't put food down our bathroom drains
17:45:51 <Ampera> but kitchen sink, I've unloaded entire bowls of food into that
17:45:58 <Halcyon> Oh gawd
17:46:00 <Ampera> eggshells, whatever
17:46:16 <Halcyon> Plumbers must get plenty of work over there
17:46:23 <Ampera> We've never called one once
17:46:36 <Ampera> and our kitchen sink has never clogged in the entire time we've used it.
17:46:42 <Halcyon> We put food waste into the bin
17:46:49 <Ampera> Bathroom sinks will, because hair, same with bathtub drains
17:46:50 <Halcyon> Or compost if you're that way inclined
17:47:22 <Ampera> Compost piles or collection is rare in the US, some individuals do it, but it's not ususally offered, unless it's garden waste
17:47:34 <Ampera> (leaves, twigs, etc.) Stuff you'd put in a lawn bag
17:47:43 <Halcyon> Yeh we have greenwaste bins for that stuff
17:47:52 <Ampera> and it's not like we use it for all of our garbage, but we just don't have to worry about not getting food in the sink
17:48:21 <Ampera> We have 2-3 bins, for trash, and recyclables (either unified, or separated containers/papers
17:48:25 <Ampera> )
17:48:45 <Halcyon> Yeh same
17:49:18 <Halcyon> Garbage disposals in sinks is rare here. I have seem them, but they are more of an 80's thing
17:49:36 <Ampera> They are in almost every single kitchen sink here
17:49:43 <Ampera> it's rare, and even annoying to not have them
17:49:52 <Ampera> and if you don't, you will definitely have a plunger under the sink
17:50:05 <Halcyon> Just don't waste food and put scraps in the bin ?
17:50:17 <Halcyon> No blocked sinks, no device to maintain
17:50:22 <Ampera> maintain?
17:50:26 <Ampera> you don't need to maintain it
17:50:34 <Halcyon> Well they don't last forever, you still need to clean them
17:50:39 <Ampera> you stick it in and use it until it breaks, which is any time from ages to forever
17:50:42 <Ampera> nope
17:50:50 <Halcyon> That's gross
17:50:55 <Ampera> I've lived in this house since 2010, and we've never cleaned it
17:51:00 <Halcyon> Ew
17:51:02 <Ampera> why
17:51:08 <Ampera> why would you even need to do that
17:51:20 <Halcyon> I guarantee if you removed the plumbing, it would be disgusting
17:51:23 <Ampera> not to mention, those fuckers are put together like bombshells, you're not supposed to open them up.
17:51:50 <Ampera> Halcyon, well I garuntee if you open up a septic tank that will look disgusting too
17:51:51 <Ampera> but you'
17:51:56 <Ampera> re not supposed to look at it
17:52:08 <Halcyon> I like to keep my pipes clean under the sink :)
17:52:23 <Ampera> and I'd actually wager it looks fine, as there is, you know, water and detergent always present
17:52:53 <Halcyon> Water and detergent doesn't get rid of fatty or sticky residue, you need agitation.
17:53:02 <Halcyon> That's why dishwashers use high pressure spray arms
17:53:07 <Ampera> Actually, I've replaced an insinkerator before, because my grandfather had some sort of backflow problem that completely rusted his shut
17:53:12 <Ampera> and it didn't look disgusting
17:53:34 <Ampera> Halcyon, the garbage disposal puts actually quite high pressure on the pipes, it acts like a giant pump
17:53:43 <steve30> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toilet_plume
17:53:48 <Halcyon> I'll take your word for it
17:53:56 <Ampera> if you fill the sink with water, and turn the disposal on, you'll empty it in a couple seconds
17:54:01 <Halcyon> Hahaha Steve
17:54:33 <Ampera> well yes, you lower the damn lid before you flush
17:54:38 <Ampera> otherwise why even bother with a lid
17:54:55 <Halcyon> *shrug*
17:55:00 <Ampera> oh man, speaking of strange toilets, the strangest I have ever seen was my uncle's toilet
17:55:18 <Halcyon> Or just pee in the shower, it all goes down the same drain
17:55:20 <Ampera> it had no water in the "bowl", and was basically a flat shelf that you just shit ontop of, and then got flushed with water
17:55:29 <Halcyon> Oh. Weird.
17:55:37 <Halcyon> Wouldn't that require constant cleaning?
17:55:43 <Ampera> you'll have to ask him
17:55:54 <Halcyon> It reminds me of airline toilets
17:55:59 <Halcyon> They have that little flap
17:56:02 <Ampera> was about to say that.
17:56:14 <Ampera> Another strange toilet was my grandmother's toilet
17:56:26 <Ampera> which didn't have a base, and instead was attached to the wall by the back
17:56:43 <Ampera> like this: https://www.drench.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/1200x1200/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/p/h/phoebe-wh-toilet-whp001-spek-ts_1__1.jpg
17:56:50 <Halcyon> So it was just a pipe with a seat attached?
17:56:57 <Halcyon> Oh right
17:57:01 <Halcyon> Yeh you see those here
17:57:03 <Ampera> and to me, that just looks like it's gonna break
17:57:18 <Halcyon> Yup, and more stuff to go wrong
17:57:29 <Ampera> I know it wouldn't, because it's (hopefully) designed to take the weight of a fatass sitting on it
17:57:29 <Halcyon> Like if you have to service or replace a part, it's a prick
17:57:44 <Halcyon> Where as with a normal toilet you can access all the plumbing
17:57:54 <Ampera> Yeah, that's another thing, those integrated into wall toilets, how would you fix that shit
17:58:03 <Ampera> if you want to get to all the innards of a US toilet, you just take the lid off
17:58:13 <Ampera> and if you want to piss someone off, you take an upper decker
17:58:14 <Halcyon> You would probably have to rip the wall apart or have some kind of rear access panel
17:58:26 <Halcyon> They usually install a water tank into the wall
17:58:37 <Ampera> That's another thing, water systems.
17:58:42 <Ampera> We have one water tank, and that's for hot water
17:58:45 <Ampera> everything else is mains
17:58:57 <Halcyon> Most places have mains water
17:59:02 <Ampera> and our hot water tank is basically just a giant pot on a giant stove burner (gas)
17:59:02 <Halcyon> Unless you live on rural property
17:59:25 <Halcyon> We don't have a hot water tank, it's a continuous system
17:59:38 <Ampera> yeah those systems are expensive as shit here.
17:59:43 <Ampera> One thing to know about the US, energy is cheap here
17:59:48 <Halcyon> When it detects a drop in pressure, the burner ignites and heats the water as it flows through the system
18:00:03 <Ampera> so it makes less sense to use energy efficient anything, because it's ususally more expensive upfront, and harder to reconcile in time
18:00:12 <Halcyon> We have them because they are cheap to run plus you get unlimited hot water.
18:00:20 <Halcyon> Most new homes use them
18:00:44 * steve30 <3 his combi boiler
18:01:06 <Ampera> Where I was born, in Bristol, we had central oil heating and water
18:01:16 <Halcyon> You English are weird, you have mains electricity inside your showers
18:01:23 <Ampera> our homes were heated by diesel
18:01:56 * steve30 squirts Halcyon with his powerful combi-boiler powered shower :)
18:02:14 <Halcyon> You'd love to have me in your shower :P
18:02:30 <steve30> I'm not sure how common electric showers are. I've only ever known a couple of people who have them. Most people have them from the main hot water supply.
18:02:38 <Ampera> I'd love to have you in my shower, Halcyon, so long as it was Zykklon B, and not water coming out of the faucet
18:03:02 <Halcyon> You're so nice to me
18:03:12 <Ampera> I'm only nice to people I hate
18:03:26 <steve30> I've just gone tired again. Now I want to go back to bed.
18:03:47 <Ampera> steve30, https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-wjD79efkt3w/XOD752UsWcI/AAAAAAAAApI/xHEluwE9UfsB3gGGJa7PhmlAuVIzGHySQCK8BGAs/s0/2019-05-18.jpg
18:03:57 <Ampera> Halcyon isn't allowed to look at th at
18:04:01 <Halcyon> Stupid cat
18:04:08 <steve30> kitty :)
18:04:17 <Ampera> I will actually yeet you into a fucking brick wall execution style
18:04:37 <Ampera> at ;east ypi
18:04:50 <Ampera> At least you're not enhanox, who boiled and stewed my pet rabbit
18:05:18 <Halcyon> Wha?
18:05:26 <Ampera> wha?
18:05:35 <Halcyon> Your actual rabbit?
18:05:46 <Ampera> no my factual rabbit
18:05:57 <Halcyon> You never told me you met Enhanox
18:06:05 <Ampera> I didn't
18:06:27 <Ampera> oh and I found out today I've been talking to you on IRC for over a year.
18:06:32 <Halcyon> Oh yay!
18:06:37 <Halcyon> Happy anniversary
18:07:03 <Ampera> Nearly 2 actually, July 19, 2017 was when I first talked to you on IRC
18:08:21 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I5kH0klENs
18:08:41 <Halcyon> You and your odd music
18:09:22 <Ampera> it reached 24 on the US charts in 1977
18:09:25 <Ampera> (weekly not year-end)
18:09:40 <steve30> should i go back to bed?
18:10:00 <Ampera> steve30, always
18:10:07 <Ampera> and don't get up too, sleep forever
18:10:15 <Ampera> you'll be living (or close enough) my dream
18:12:09 * steve30 curls up on halcyon's lap
18:12:13 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to go, change the sheets on my bed, get my things ready for work tomorrow
18:12:17 <Halcyon> Awww Steve :)
18:13:05 <Ampera> good night Halcyon
18:13:27 <steve30> ooh, fresh sheets
18:14:03 <Ampera> I've had the same sheets on my bed since I started talking to you on IRC, Halcyon
18:14:23 <Halcyon> They've been washed though?
18:14:26 <Ampera> no
18:14:33 <Halcyon> Ew
18:14:46 <Ampera> I've also been wearing the same clothes
18:14:58 <Halcyon> You're so full of it
18:15:03 <Ampera> dead serious
18:15:08 <Ampera> so serious I want to kill myself actually
18:15:16 * steve30 puts Ampera in the washing machine
18:15:29 * Halcyon gets out the high pressure hose and car washing sponges
18:15:50 <Ampera> \o/ blunt force trauma, over G fatalaty, drowning, and detergent poisoning!
18:16:20 <Halcyon> I change my bed linen just about every week
18:17:36 <steve30> hi
18:18:11 <Ampera> I think these sheets have been washed one time since 2014 or so
18:18:27 <Halcyon> That's really gross
18:18:36 <Ampera> there are people walking and talking in this world younger than my sheets
18:19:15 <steve30> Halcyon, I had a cute guy contact me on a dating site :)
18:22:39 <Halcyon> I should post you some sheets as well :)
18:23:01 <Ampera> I wouldn't use them
19:31:56 <K> hello
19:31:57 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
19:32:04 <K> yay, i win!
20:05:30 <steve30> hello
20:10:37 <K> hello
20:10:38 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
20:10:46 <K> i win! again!
20:14:06 <steve30> aww, why doesn't he say hello to me?
20:17:51 <K> he (she/it) does not fancy you today
22:01:36 Quit: Bluenote ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
22:19:27 <coppice_> Ampera: There's nothing weird about The Move. Roy Wood is a legend of rock that doesn't take itself too seriously
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