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02:39:34 <Ampera> coppice_, I didn't say it was weird, it was Halcyon who said it was weird
02:40:47 <Ampera> I've only listened to one song (Do Ya), because of Jeff Lynne, who is one of my favourite musicians.
02:41:22 <Ampera> Do Ya is also an ELO song, being remade for that group by Lynne
02:41:31 <Ampera> but the move version is honestly better
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08:05:01 <coppice_> Ampera: The Move never got anywhere in the US. I think they were a bit too English for American tastes. I think that sealed their fate, as the big money was always in the US. I don't think Roy Wood's later band, Wizard, did much better in the US, but Jeff Lynne hit the big time
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09:12:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: https://t.co/Sgbc41nr3U
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11:59:41 <Halcyon> Afternoon all
11:59:45 <Halcyon> *yawn*
12:04:36 <Ampera> Halcyon!
12:04:38 <Ampera> How do?
12:05:55 <Ampera> alright, fine, ignore me
12:06:05 <Ampera> eevblog time
12:06:05 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 12:13 Sydney time.
12:25:26 <Halcyon> Sorry was on the phone
12:25:30 <Halcyon> I'm good, how are you?
12:26:34 <Ampera> good how are you
12:27:06 <Halcyon> Not too bad, slept way longer than I intended, but it was nice :)
12:27:19 <Ampera> I bought things
12:27:30 <Halcyon> Oh?
12:27:38 <Ampera> 16GB (4x4) of ECC DDR3 UDIMMs for my server
12:27:42 <Halcyon> AH nice
12:27:43 <Ampera> for 55USD
12:27:48 <Halcyon> Bargain
12:28:08 <Ampera> and I paid 13USD for a 128GB MicroSD card with next day shipping for free
12:28:23 <Halcyon> Very good
12:29:13 <Ampera> I plan to use it to make an emergency rollover Pi, that, if my main server were to go down, some of my lighter weight and more critical services (lol critical) would have some sort of quick switch redundancy
12:29:51 <Halcyon> Makes sense, that's something I'm yet to do (for example, pfSense)
12:30:03 <Halcyon> It's currently running on a VM and that server only has one power supply
12:30:19 <Ampera> no this is not for router redundancy, we have no backup plan for that
12:30:47 <Halcyon> Yes but I'm just saying, because my router is a VM, I should be looking at redundancy that I can quickly swap in.
12:30:56 <Ampera> I have potential plans for an emergency battery operated (or mains operated) router intended for use when the main one takes a shit
12:31:05 <Ampera> my ass is a VM
12:31:30 <Halcyon> Isn't your dick a VM? It might as well not be there, you don't use it anyway
12:31:40 <Ampera> I still pee, Halcyon
12:31:54 <Halcyon> Yes but you can sit down and not touch it
12:32:09 <Ampera> can't you, ya fat perv?
12:32:29 <Halcyon> ?
12:32:32 <Halcyon> How am I fat?
12:32:48 <Ampera> because I said so
12:32:51 <Halcyon> Hah
12:32:52 <Ampera> and if I said so, I said SO
12:33:02 <Halcyon> I need another coffee, also I have a package at the post office
12:33:43 <Ampera> >.>
12:34:02 <Halcyon> I ordered 2 of these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Axis-Communications-Axis-5400-Network-Print-Server-0130-001-03/254198268194?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649
12:34:09 <Halcyon> For my dot matrix (and one as a spare)
12:34:37 <Ampera> looks gay
12:35:52 <Halcyon> I realised I couldn't print to it via the network as I don't have a Parallel port on my machine
12:36:06 <Ampera> you're seriously devoid of legacy gear
12:37:21 <Halcyon> This is my main desktop which is a HP server.
12:37:40 <Halcyon> I have plenty of machines which do have parallel, but I don't fancy using a Pentium III as my main machine :P
12:37:52 <Halcyon> Or some Core 2 duo crap
12:37:58 <Ampera> I mean
12:38:02 <Ampera> print server
12:38:15 <Halcyon> Bah, waste of electricity to have another machine running just to service 1 printer
12:38:31 <Halcyon> This is Australia, we don't have cheap nuclear power
12:39:16 <Ampera> wow, your internet sucks, and your power sucks
12:39:21 <Ampera> next thing you'll be telling me, your laws suck too
12:40:13 <Halcyon> The power is good, but it's all coal. Everyone with half a brain wants nuclear, considering we export most of our uranium to other countries. But the Governments are too pussy to do anything about it, most of the politicians crap on about "renewables" and "carbon emissions".
12:41:02 <Halcyon> Except if you live in South Australia, their power sucks because they are too reliant on wind and solar.
12:41:22 <Halcyon> If you recall not long ago, their entire state lost power.
12:42:23 <Ampera> Twitter is a wash with people cranking on about abortion
12:42:47 <Halcyon> For or against?
12:42:51 <Ampera> yes
12:43:24 <Halcyon> People just need to fuck off, it's like the assisted dying thing. Who the hell is some Greenie to tell someone else how to live (or not live) their lives.
12:43:25 <Ampera> idk, I believe in a woman's right to voluntarily kill her unborn children when they become a burden.
12:43:34 <Halcyon> They just need to all fuck off to an island and leave everyone else alone
12:43:52 <Ampera> I see it as how people wish to measure when a life has value.
12:44:07 <Ampera> You can't kill a born child, that's murder, but where should the line be drawn.
12:44:26 <Halcyon> *shrug* I'm no expert
12:44:44 <Halcyon> Abortion should be a thing, no doubt about it, it's just where that line should be is where I don't have a view one way or another.
12:44:49 <Halcyon> I don't know enough about the subject.
12:44:56 <Ampera> It's all in how you view human life, and while it has, very annoyingly, become a partisan thing, and not a human ethics thing.
12:45:37 <Ampera> It's not about controlling women's bodies in the same way not letting women kill their born children is controlling their lives, yet you can still abort and put up for adoption.
12:46:11 <Halcyon> Our Greens party as more nuts than ever
12:46:16 <Ampera> At the end of the day I think people are fucking stupid for turning this so personally, on both sides of the fence the issue is so hot, it will define the character of a person entirely.
12:46:29 <Ampera> what, do they want to start banning the right to carry spoons in public too?
12:46:31 <Halcyon> They believe that Police carrying tasers and firearms is "intimidating" and that Police shouldn't have them at all.
12:47:03 <Halcyon> It's lunacy, if you read their policies, I don't know how anyone can vote for them with a straight face
12:47:17 <Ampera> This issue lies within your interpretation of the model of human criminality, and the methods we put into place to stop them.
12:48:03 <Ampera> I think my critical annoyance with modern crime prevention is how governments and individuals seek to ban the means of crime, instead of try to put effort into solving the cause.
12:48:37 <Ampera> It's easy enough to ban a knife or a gun, but I don't think those will give us the sweet society we all want to live in. Just because someone doesn't have a knife or a gun doesn't mean they don't want to commit crime.
12:52:40 <Ampera> Law is a balance between individual freedom, and collective restriction.
13:32:11 <Halcyon> YAY! My print servers arrived
13:34:44 <Ampera> gotta love opening up a toilet to see it full of unflushed shit because /someone/ is too retarded to flush the fucking toilet
13:34:57 <Halcyon> Ew
13:35:03 <Halcyon> What the hell is wrong with people
13:35:15 <Ampera> It's my brother, who is the most inconsiderate person in the world.
13:35:23 <Ampera> He's been yelled at for ages, but he still doesn't flush the toilet
13:35:35 <Halcyon> Your brother?
13:36:16 <Ampera> my brother
13:36:20 <Halcyon> What a grot
13:36:32 <Ampera> There isn't a person I truly despise more in the world.
13:36:40 <Ampera> He's one of the worst fucking people to be around, seriously.
13:38:22 <Halcyon> He sounds like it
13:38:44 <Halcyon> What's his problem?
13:38:56 <Ampera> the big gay
13:39:12 <Halcyon> ?
13:39:37 <Ampera> you're gay, you should know, they're all horrific people
13:39:40 <Ampera> just like you
13:39:48 <Halcyon> :P
13:39:55 <Halcyon> Your brother is gay
13:39:55 <Halcyon> ?
13:40:03 <Ampera> my brother is a fucking retard
13:40:25 <Halcyon> Sure but retard and gay are mutually exclusive
13:40:55 <Ampera> [Citation Needed]
13:42:05 <Halcyon> Asshole :P
13:42:11 <Ampera> yes, you are
13:42:16 <Halcyon> Hardly
13:42:16 <Ampera> that's what I've been trying to explain to you
13:42:28 <Ampera> don't worry, you'll get used to it
13:42:30 <Ampera> I know I did
13:43:09 <Halcyon> You're very sassy today
13:43:39 <Ampera> I am very pissed today
13:43:43 <Ampera> but tomorrow comes in 9 minutes
13:43:55 <Halcyon> Hooray
13:44:03 <Ampera> speaking of pissed, did you ever got a word back from the people you contacted?
13:44:16 <Halcyon> Nope
13:44:30 <Halcyon> Fucking rude cunts
13:44:37 <Ampera> what did I tell you?
13:44:53 <Halcyon> That people over there don't give a shit?
13:45:07 <Ampera> and as expected, nobody gives a shit
13:45:28 <Ampera> especially not the police, they have much more important shit to get on about than someone who has some emotional bullshit
13:45:44 <Halcyon> I would hate to live there I think
13:45:55 <Ampera> I love living in the US, I'd hate to live in Australia.
13:46:19 <Halcyon> I think you'd actually love it
13:46:38 <Ampera> Freedom is important to me, and I do not believe Australia has the level of freedom I'd want in a place I'd live.
13:47:05 <Ampera> To me the most important factors of any nation I would live in is the ability to do what I wish to do with the least possible risk of having to deal with authorities.
13:47:09 <Halcyon> On the contrary, we have plenty of freedom, thanks to our national security. I can walk down the street even in the "bad" places and not be worries.
13:47:20 <Ampera> That's not freedom, that's security.
13:47:23 <Ampera> There is a difference.
13:47:31 <Ampera> Freedom is what you can do, security is what others can't do.
13:47:33 <Halcyon> I also have the freedom to do what I want
13:47:45 <Ampera> the point here is I wouldn't have the freedom to do what I want
13:48:02 <Ampera> To be honest Halcyon, you scare me a bit, a lot of people in this world do.
13:48:19 <Halcyon> That's OK. A healthy level of fear is a good thing.
13:48:43 <Ampera> Wherever I look I see people forgetting the lessons we have learned for hundreds of years, in terms of the restriction of the true free right to communicate and express.
13:49:10 <Halcyon> That's true. Which is glad I live here. We learn the lessons of what happened and also the lessons of others.
13:49:17 <Ampera> You did not apply them well.
13:49:18 <Halcyon> The majority of our laws reflect that
13:49:22 <Halcyon> And it's a good system
13:49:32 <Ampera> Take, for example, your personal stance on denying the use of encryption to convicted felons.
13:49:42 <Halcyon> Mmmm...
13:49:52 <Ampera> While on the outside this might seem innocent enough (ignoring the incredible life difficulties this would bring)
13:49:58 <Ampera> but this brings a big concern to me.
13:50:36 <Halcyon> You can't take a few lines and take it literally. Laws are not written or constructed that way
13:50:46 <Halcyon> Obviously more thought and careful wording need to be considered
13:50:46 <Ampera> So many times in humanity's past have governments introduced restrictions on who can say what, and who can do what, and while there is always, in a good society, a balance, it gets concerning when more and more restrictions are made, with the excuse that only wrongdoers need to be worried.
13:51:04 <Ampera> In my opinion a law that does not have a clear and concise interpretation is a poorly written law.
13:51:36 <Ampera> The issue, Halcyon, is not in today, and the people who use civil restrictions for an apparent good, but with tomorrow, with who might be able to abuse those laws.
13:52:12 <Halcyon> Well as both of us have already said, it's about balance and it seems we have the balance about right.
13:52:18 <Halcyon> It's not perfect, no laws will ever be
13:52:33 <Halcyon> But our standard of living, our freedoms and our national security are a testament to that
13:52:47 <Ampera> While I sit here today, and can tell you, while we might not be perfect, we have done a better job than you have in considerably more adverse conditions.
13:53:08 <Ampera> Halcyon, tell me about your hate speech laws. Do you have any?
13:53:38 <Halcyon> Sure, but specifically what they say, no idea. I'm not an expert in that part of law.
13:53:49 <Ampera> That's convenient.
13:53:56 <Ampera> In the US, we do not have any such thing as hate speech laws.
13:53:58 <Halcyon> What can I say, I'm trained in criminal law
13:54:09 <Halcyon> You can't blame me for that
13:54:11 <Ampera> Hate speech is a criminal offense.
13:54:23 <Halcyon> Yeh and there probably are offences relating to it
13:54:28 <Halcyon> What's the point you're making?
13:54:34 <Ampera> My point is that this is not the case here.
13:54:40 <Halcyon> OK ?
13:54:48 <Ampera> and it's that sort of freedom I feel I need to be secured in my life in order to live happily in a nation.
13:54:59 <Halcyon> Sure
13:55:14 <Ampera> What scares me, Halcyon, is how the nations of the world today find ways to redefine what is and is not acceptable to discuss and believe.
13:55:28 <Ampera> How there are things such as hate speech as a legal concept at all.
13:55:44 <Ampera> It scares me because countries have already shown how they can abuse it, and they do it today.
13:55:47 <Halcyon> Because inciting hate and violence is a bad thing?
13:55:55 <Halcyon> I'm not sure how that is a difficult concept to grasp
13:56:00 <Ampera> What is hate?
13:56:05 <Ampera> What is inciting?
13:56:08 <Ampera> Who decides that?
13:56:23 <Halcyon> Do you think people should have the right do protest the streets saying that all Asians should be killed and slaughered?
13:56:25 <Ampera> That's the issue I'm getting at, while the effort may seem noble.
13:56:26 <Halcyon> *to
13:56:29 <Ampera> Yes,
13:56:33 <Halcyon> I disagree
13:56:34 <Halcyon> It's wrong
13:56:42 <Halcyon> People can *think* it
13:56:55 <Ampera> Now let me give you another example.
13:56:59 <Ampera> One rather close to me.
13:57:24 <Ampera> Gender dysphoria is a condition recognized across the world, but the treatment begins to start younger and younger.
13:58:07 <Ampera> Children and families are conned and tricked into buying and using incredibly dangerous and irreversible medicines.
13:58:10 <Ampera> Ones we barely know about.
13:58:28 <Ampera> Now, Halcyon, if a group of people would start to rally against this sort of treatment.
13:58:50 <Ampera> Of children being drugged, and pushed into social situations by very very dodgy groups, ones of which I have a personal understanding of.
13:58:57 <Ampera> Is that inciting hate and violence?
13:59:15 <Ampera> There are enough people in the right places who would say yes.
13:59:40 <Halcyon> That example is entirely different
13:59:52 <Halcyon> You're comparing apples with oranges
13:59:52 <Ampera> It's milder, but that is the point.
14:00:12 <Halcyon> Our laws would not cover that "milder" form
14:00:16 <Ampera> The point is that this is still, just like demanding racial genocide, legally controlled in various nations.
14:00:22 <Ampera> In the UK, they do.
14:00:29 <Halcyon> Sure, but we aren't the UK
14:00:30 <Ampera> Depending on who charges you and who arrests you.
14:00:40 <Halcyon> And we also find ourselves less and less connected to the UK
14:00:52 <Ampera> The thing is, Halcyon, they were in a very similar position as Australia.
14:01:13 <Ampera> Where the concept of freedom of speech was limited, not by its true harm to others, but by topics deemed by the state to be undesirable to talk about.
14:01:47 <Ampera> When the line between right and wrong is not drawn by a law, but by the people enforcing it, then you no longer have a law, you have a ticket.
14:02:04 <Ampera> An excuse for anyone to come over and use their own personal opinion to dictate the rights and freedoms of other people, and how they should be limited.
14:02:50 <Ampera> This is why I am afraid, because the topic I have given is one near and dear to me, a topic, that if I were to activise about anything, would be the thing I would fight for.
14:03:16 <Ampera> True and honest care for people like me, instead of the nigh abduction I was placed in the position of experiencing.
14:03:43 <Ampera> and it is one, that perhaps not Australia, but nations who follow a similar path, have already started to limit and destroy.
14:04:42 <Ampera> The US is perfect, no nation is, but the reason why I cling so dearly to our rather lax way of doing things is because of that reason. Despite the risks it may give me, despite the controversy, despite our government being in true UK-style deadlock more times than you can imagine
14:05:01 <Ampera> I can know that no matter what I believe, what has effected me, and what side I am on, I am always welcome to fight for what I believe in, no matter how bad other people in power might think it is.
14:48:59 <Halcyon> Gah, fucking NEC support site sucks
14:53:38 <Ampera> NECCo's support site sucks too, they won't tell me why my wafers taste like ass
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15:25:55 <Halcyon> YAY! Got my printer working, had to use the Epson LQ-850 driver
15:26:06 <Ampera> Halcyon, enloa
15:26:08 <Ampera> *enola
15:26:10 <Halcyon> ?
15:26:13 <Ampera> enola
15:26:20 <Halcyon> That doesn't clarify anything
15:26:29 <Ampera> enola what
15:27:00 <Ampera> Hiroshima
15:28:23 <Halcyon> What are you on about
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15:29:03 <Ampera> Halcyon, enola
15:29:09 <Ampera> ENOLA
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15:33:48 <Guest|71535> hello
15:33:53 <Halcyon> Afternoon
15:34:05 <Ampera> Morning
15:34:21 <Guest|71535> lol someone here been eons since I messed with IRC
15:34:50 <Guest|71535> my lost 1990'ws years
15:34:50 <Halcyon> Yeh this channel is usually pretty active. It's early morning in America though so a lot of people are asleep
15:35:04 <Halcyon> Except Ampera, he never sleeps
15:35:36 <Halcyon> https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/retail/mcdonalds-reveals-plans-to-double-as-us-embassies-in-austria/news-story/b8fe86736fb801efa97318477f7a80e6
15:35:40 <Halcyon> What a nifty idea
15:35:45 <Guest|71535> Need figure how to remane here....IRC was from my 1990's
15:35:55 <Halcyon> Type /nick Whatever
15:36:00 <Guest|71535> ty
15:36:10 Nick: Guest|71535 is now known as Brian
15:36:14 <Halcyon> There we go :)
15:36:19 <Brian> lol
15:36:28 <Ampera> Brian, if you intend to stick around I suggest you get a real client.
15:36:50 <Ampera> Web chat is alright to drop in, but if you want to start using IRC, something like HexChat or WeeChat wouldn't be a bad idea.
15:36:51 <Halcyon> Yeh a proper IRC client is better than the webchat thingo
15:37:03 <Brian> Amp yep I used to have a client for IRC several computers ago
15:37:34 <Halcyon> I love IRC, it's one of those things that has never really died
15:37:39 <Halcyon> I mean, it's nothing like the 90's
15:37:42 <Halcyon> But still
15:38:06 <Ampera> the gay 90s
15:38:10 <Brian> sorry gonna usw the web version tonite
15:38:14 <Brian> use
15:38:26 <Ampera> just a suggestion, not for our benefit.
15:38:40 <Brian> no prob...and noted
15:38:44 <Halcyon> The 90's were awesome Ampera
15:38:48 <Halcyon> Not that you'd know
15:39:08 <Halcyon> Technology was much more interesting then, now it's just meh
15:39:19 <Brian> just recalled Mirc was then
15:39:20 <Halcyon> I mean Apple haven't innovated anything since... the first iPhone?
15:39:40 <Ampera> Halcyon, you have no idea what I mean by gay 90s
15:39:46 <Halcyon> No I don't
15:39:59 <Brian> lol
15:40:53 <Brian> gay 90's was after my last divorce
15:41:02 <Brian> shrug
15:41:02 <Halcyon> But usually I have no idea what the hell you're on about Ampera
15:41:11 <Ampera> gay 90's is 1890s ya blockhead
15:41:37 <Brian> I know are we talking railroads?
15:41:50 <Halcyon> Why was that the gay 90's ?
15:41:58 <Brian> nevermind
15:42:06 <Brian> beer is in play
15:42:16 <Halcyon> Don't worry, I'm onto the wine
15:42:22 <Halcyon> It's the start of my weekend today
15:42:40 <Ampera> It's like the roarin 20's
15:42:43 <Ampera> it's a term
15:43:02 <Brian> YEP OLD WNUF TO KNOW
15:43:18 <Ampera> uhuh
15:43:40 <Brian> OOPS CAPS
15:43:51 <Brian> apologies
15:44:02 <Brian> and beer
15:44:28 <DogWomble> hopefully good bear :)
15:44:50 <Halcyon> Hey DogWomble
15:44:51 <Brian> wow IRC again....thanks for welcoming me
15:44:53 <Ampera> alcohol is how the devil finds followers
15:45:03 <DogWomble> hey Halcyon )
15:45:08 <Halcyon> Alcohol is awesome, if you can handle it
15:45:19 <Halcyon> No worries Brian
15:45:35 <coppice> if you can handle alcohol, it must be very cold
15:45:37 <DogWomble> i'm not a heavy drinker, i only have a couple of beers every now and again, but when i do drink i prefer something decent :)
15:45:56 <Ampera> hi coppice, how do?
15:46:37 <Brian> I've been away from IRC for years...MIRC was my go-to
15:47:51 <Halcyon> mIRC or Pirch were pretty much the go-to clients back then
15:48:02 <Brian> what are the Cool Folks using?
15:48:08 <Halcyon> Hexchat
15:48:15 <DogWomble> i'm on hexchat now
15:48:20 <Ampera> Today the big boys in town are (still mIRC), HexChat, and WeeChat
15:48:33 <Halcyon> I use Linux, but Hexchat is also on Android and Windows
15:48:35 <coppice> I use Konversation
15:48:35 <Ampera> but mIRC you have to pay for, and HexChat you don't.
15:48:47 <Halcyon> Hey Coppice :)
15:48:48 <Ampera> We're all Linux fangirls over here.
15:48:54 <Brian> oh shit...something else to learn besides Kicad...lol
15:49:14 <Halcyon> Windows 10 is horrid, I refuse to use it at home.
15:49:18 <Halcyon> It's painful enough at work
15:49:34 <Brian> stuck with 210
15:49:47 <Ampera> as I said, Linux fangirls
15:49:48 <Brian> oops w10
15:50:03 <coppice> Windows 10 is for sinners
15:50:45 <coppice> As you enter the final circle of hell, a Windows Vista machine boot, and starts an automatic upgrade to Windoes 10
15:52:33 <Brian> been a log ass day here, getting a Neve Capricorn recording desk all happy again
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15:53:13 <Brian> fucking surface mount lyrics
15:53:21 <Brian> oops lytics
15:54:06 <coppice> I went for an interview at Neve back in the 1970s
15:54:30 <Brian> Neve is still one of the 200 lb gorillaqs
15:55:13 <coppice> The original Neve company doesn't really exist any more
15:56:05 <Brian> Neve AMS is still alive
15:56:48 <Brian> As Studer is still alive
15:57:09 <coppice> Yesh, but its another company which bought the rigths to use the name Neve, rather like the Grundig name being put on all sorts of things
15:57:20 <Brian> Old Recording guy here
15:57:24 <coppice> I believe Studer is still the original
15:57:56 <Brian> lol I think Studer is now part of Behringer
15:58:24 <coppice> Studer are supposed to be preparing new Revox products for market
15:58:54 <Brian> so I heR
15:59:16 <Brian> heAR
15:59:20 <coppice> Rupert Neve is an interesting guy
16:00:19 <Brian> Rupert was a great man....very cool
16:00:52 <Brian> I think he's gine mentally
16:01:28 <Brian> age 90's and faded
16:03:16 <coppice> Building stuff in the 70s was so different. Neve did everything in house. I saw all the sheet metal folding and carpentery for the desks being done in the main workshop
16:04:47 <Brian> well I toured the MCI factory in the 1980s...another amazing factory
16:06:44 <Brian> need to sleep.... what IRC client in 2019? waaaay out of date here
16:07:00 <coppice> There was nothing amazing about the Neve factory. The products were nice, though
16:08:36 <Brian> MCI factory was iron ore and oil in one door , tape machines and desks out the other door
16:09:03 <Brian> making a joke but not too far from truth
16:09:44 <Brian> gents...I'm out good night
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18:13:02 <steve30> morning
18:24:14 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :-D
18:24:26 <steve30> hi Halcyon
18:25:55 * steve30 curls up on halcyon's lap
18:32:07 <steve30> There was a cute guy in the coffee shop yesterday
18:37:39 <Halcyon> Oh :)
18:37:57 <Halcyon> Did you get his number?
18:39:50 <steve30> Nope. He was busy being snuggled up with his girlfriend :/
18:40:01 <Halcyon> Boo :(
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18:49:22 <steve30> I need to go out for a walk today
18:49:46 <Halcyon> Where are you going ?
18:50:01 <steve30> I need to go and check up on my grandmother
18:50:28 <steve30> I was hoping I might do some gardening for her, but she seems to keep collaring next door gardeners.
18:50:36 <Halcyon> Heh
18:53:58 <steve30> I had an Xray of my hip yesterday
18:54:12 <Halcyon> Oh yeh?
18:54:19 * Halcyon rubs Steve's hips
18:54:30 <steve30> I've got a noticable boney lump there which is what's making the joint sore.
18:54:46 * steve30 purrs at Halcyon
18:55:04 <ServalSpots> Is it new or had it just not been discovered before?
18:56:09 <steve30> The physiotherapist I saw a few months ago suspected it as being a 'cam impingement'. The consultant yesterday confirmed that.
18:56:31 <steve30> No idea how long its been like that for, but its only been causing problems this last couple of years.
18:56:35 <ServalSpots> Oof, I hope you don't blow a rod
18:56:37 <ServalSpots> wait...
18:56:39 <ServalSpots> >.>
18:57:34 <Halcyon> All this talk of Steve's noticeable lump near his hips :P
18:57:40 <ServalSpots> hehe
18:57:57 <steve30> When I get my own copy of the xray I'll post it up
18:58:38 <ServalSpots> Where is the lump? sounds like it's at the femur joint? :/
18:58:39 <Halcyon> I don't want to see inside you Steve ;-)
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18:58:45 <Halcyon> I like the outer parts
18:59:53 <ServalSpots> And all this time I've been enjoying steve30 for the gooey center!
19:00:03 <steve30> ServalSpots, this basically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femoroacetabular_impingement
19:00:59 <DogWomble> i bring up irc and we're having a discussion about steve's gooey center, what have i got myself into?
19:01:19 <Halcyon> He is talking about his lump DogWomble
19:01:25 <Halcyon> And a significant one at that
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19:03:18 <ServalSpots> steve30: So it's a bone on bone thing? I am guessing that's a lot better than something related to the cartilage, but I don't really know
19:03:23 <steve30> The XRay cost £140, which is a bit more than I expected tbh, but not unreasonable I suppose.
19:03:37 <ServalSpots> Yikes
19:04:53 <steve30> I think what happens is, because the bone is a bit deformed, it pushes the joint out of place slightly and wears it out, which causes it to be painful.
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19:05:17 <ServalSpots> Ah, that makes sense as well
19:05:28 <ServalSpots> More, really
19:06:25 <DogWomble> well lets hope it is fixable
19:06:32 <DogWomble> because that sounds painful
19:08:05 <ServalSpots> gimme a scalpel and a sanding disk and a needle and thread
19:08:36 <ServalSpots> Oh, and give steve30 some narcos, and maybe something to bite down on
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19:09:50 <coppice> steev30: 140 is a lot for an x-ray. how does anyone in the UK end up paying for one?
19:58:19 <K> hello
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19:58:39 <K> this is getting a tad suspicious tbh
19:58:59 <K> not that i mind
21:47:35 <steve30> hi
21:47:47 <K> yes.
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