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21:09 <Nothing\> man, i hate sites where they won't give you prices of anything unless you sign in or call them
21:24 <steve30> yup
21:37 <Nothing\> seems to me if somebody's looking around for stuff like that, even a business, they'd just fuck off and go to another site cuz who wants to deal with that hassle
21:44 <Nothing\> unless it's a reputable company
22:08 <Nothing\> internet people haven't got the attention span to deal with extra steps like that lol
22:13 <steve30> there is the issue though of prices that may change regularly
22:39 <Nothing\> that's true, but it can't be that hard to have an applet or something to update them automatically from a database or something
23:07 <Nothing\> and either way, the employee you call to get a quote will still have to consult some sort of database to get the price quote anyways, so they'd already have it in digital form
24:23 <Nothing\> i'm looking around, trying to get an idea of what a distillation set up would cost me, it's not bad even looking on amazon a condenser column is only $30 or $50, but i wouldn't expect them to be the greatest quality
24:32 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
24:35 <Nothing\> whereas i looked at a dean stark aparatus that was $750 :o
24:39 <Ampera> how do fren
24:40 <Nothing\> hey Ampera how goes it man?
24:46 <Ampera> I went to a pork store
24:49 <Nothing\> i'm doing well
24:51 <Nothing\> mmm pork
24:54 <Ampera> and an asian market
25:03 <Ampera> and I bought pork and asians respectively.
25:11 <Nothing\> lol nice
25:13 <Ampera> no wait
25:27 <Nothing\> when my brother's ex's brother went to india to teach english, he "bought" a servant for $50
25:35 <Nothing\> the guy did absolutely everything for him
25:54 <Ampera> oh yeah
25:55 <Nothing\> i've always wanted to take the paltry sum of money i have and go live like a king in a third world country
26:03 <Ampera> I wouldn't
26:14 <Ampera> It wouldn't feel right to have a servant, even if I was rich.
26:15 <Nothing\> yeah realistically i can barely leave the house without suffering anxiety lol
26:43 <Nothing\> i would feel right, those guys need money and that's how they make a living, plus if you don't hire them somebody less scrupulous would
27:01 <Nothing\> so you can at least treat them well while helping them to make a living, while not taking advantage of their good nature and making them do demeaning things
27:02 <Ampera> I'd pay them nicer than 50 bucks though
27:21 <Nothing\> that too, you can give em tips and stuff, though i think tips are an insult in asian culture, dunno about indian though
27:39 <Ampera> I wouldn't pay a servant less than 10,000 USD/year
27:59 <Ampera> if i can't afford it, I'm too poor for servants
28:11 <Nothing\> yeah i dunno that i'd feel right having a servant
28:19 <Nothing\> although i'd LOVE to hire somebody to keep my lab space tidy for me
28:57 <Nothing\> i hate having tiny pieces of stuff everywhere, so my messy work area drives me nuts, especially considering it doubles as my computer area so i have to keep it tidy enough to at least fit a keyboard and mouse
29:27 <Ampera> Pork, Sugar, Monosodium Glutamate, Salt, Chili Powder, and Sodium Nitrate
29:29 <Nothing\> lol all it is is about 3 tv trays in a row, i found a good solid cherry wood table out on the curb though, i just need to make room for it
29:33 <Ampera> that's in one of the things I bought at the asian market
29:34 <Nothing\> sodium nitrate!
29:40 <Nothing\> nice
29:51 <Nothing\> i've been wanting a source of sodium nitrate, i only found out last night they use it for curing meats
29:57 <Nothing\> which i already knew, it keeps it pink
30:20 <Nothing\> it just didn't click that i could actually buy the stuff myself, i thought it was just something abatoirs used
30:45 <Nothing\> but sodium nitrate's cool cuz you can mix it with sugar to make rocket fuel
30:51 <Nothing\> it's a wonderful oxidizer
31:14 <Nothing\> actually, big clive just did a video on it the other day, using it to make semi-pyrotechnic paper
31:24 <Ampera> that was potassium nitrate
31:45 <Nothing\> they both work the same, one's just more reactive than the other, i forget which
31:52 <Ampera> potassium, presumably
31:52 <Nothing\> presumably potassium nitrate is more reactive
31:54 <Nothing\> aye
32:06 <Ampera> as alkali earth metals tend to get more interesting as you go down the table
32:20 <Nothing\> i find a lot of the elements do that
32:34 <Nothing\> apparently they discovered the first molecule to ever be formed in the universe the other day
32:38 <Nothing\> helium hydride
32:41 <Ampera> Well for the exothermic reaction they have with water, they get more reactive the more you go down the table
32:46 <Nothing\> and apparently it's also the most acidic chemical possible
33:02 <Nothing\> lol yeah
33:18 <Nothing\> i remember coming across a video on youtube years ago claiming to be of a "francium bomb" it was just an h-bomb test
34:11 <Nothing\> actually i think there's some conjecture that francium wouldn't necessarily be more reactive with water
34:39 <Nothing\> i still wanna see caesium react with fluorine, biggest possible difference in electronegativity
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35:44 <Nothing\> actually one thing i've been wanting to do for a while is get some lithium out of those AA lithium batteries, you've just gotta cut em open with a pipe cutter or something and you've got lithium foil right in there
36:29 <Ampera> What I want to do is make an alkali earth metal bomb one day
36:52 <Nothing\> how's that?
37:03 <Ampera> just get a supply of metallic sodium, design a pressure vessel, and a high surface area irrigation system, a trigger to set it all off, and boom.
37:04 <Nothing\> or you just mean throwing an alkali metal in water in a plastic bottle?
37:10 <Nothing\> ah nice
37:14 <Nothing\> that would be cool
37:16 <Ampera> No something nice a metal
37:19 <Ampera> something that would be a big big bang
37:24 <Nothing\> pressure cooker lol
37:35 <Nothing\> actually i don't think a pressure cooker would work
37:42 <Ampera> Yeah but you'd need a system to remotely irrigate the sodium
37:59 <Nothing\> a pressure cooker would probably just develop a pinhole leak that would vent all of the pressure
38:16 <Nothing\> you'd need something frangible, that's been pre-stressed to fracture in a specific way
38:25 <Ampera> I also want to see if, along with being feasible to obtain in reasonable amounts, a high reactance (yet small enough atom to have a higher reaction speed), metal like potassium or rubidium would be good
38:27 <Nothing\> like the vent on a capacitor
39:00 <Ampera> Or or, you have something that's designed like a sphere, so the pressure is equally trapped in all directions, and must release everywhere.
39:08 <Nothing\> yeah unfortunately the best way for amateurs to get alkali metals is to make it themselves, since they're so hazardous shipping costs an arm and a leg
39:19 <Nothing\> nurdrage has some good videos on making sodium
39:39 <Ampera> Well presuming I can find a manner to separate it out, sodium is literally dirt cheap.
39:48 <Ampera> sodium chloride
40:02 <Ampera> Potassium chloride is also not too too expensive, though it is more than sodium.
41:11 <Nothing\> yeah actually you can use sodium chloride in water with electrolysis to make sodium metal i think
41:21 <Ampera> That simple?
41:48 <Nothing\> although electrolysis of molten sodium hydroxide seems preferred, probably because it's only a covalent bond as opposed to the ionic bond in salt, so it requires less energy to break it,
42:10 <Nothing\> well i'm not so sure the salt water thing would work, i know it generates chlorine on the anode
42:12 <Ampera> I'd want to make several kg of it though
42:18 <Nothing\> so i would assume it generates sodium on the cathode
42:34 <Ampera> Well the cathode is underwater
42:49 <Ampera> so how would you harvest it
42:52 <Nothing\> nurdrage posted a video just the other day on how to make sodium from, oh what was it, sodium hydroxide, menthol and magnesium
43:00 <Nothing\> the sodium floats on water
43:12 <Ampera> and also reacts with it
43:20 <Nothing\> yeah so perhaps that wouldn't work lol
43:26 <Nothing\> i guess that's why they use molten sodium hydroxide instead
43:44 <Nothing\> which is really nasty stuff to work with, you can't even use glassware with it
43:49 <Ampera> wouldn't that still react?
43:55 <Nothing\> nah
43:59 <Ampera> as isn't sodium hydroxide just sodium and water?
44:18 <Nothing\> oh yeah, but sodium metal won't react with sodium hydroxide
44:26 <Nothing\> but sodium metal reacts with water to make sodium hydroxide
44:36 <Ampera> but what happens to the water once you remove the sodium from it
45:10 <Nothing\> well there's no water with the molten sodium hydroxide method, you're just running electricity through pure sodium hydroxide, nothing more
45:25 <Nothing\> so you need really skookum electrodes, usually platinum i think
45:29 <Ampera> to remove sodium?
45:37 <Ampera> from sodium hydroxide
45:44 <Ampera> leaving hydroxide (water)
45:48 <Ampera> which goes where
45:50 <Nothing\> it generates the sodium from the sodium hydroxide, and then it just sorta floats on the top of it in globs
46:04 <Ampera> and does the water evaporate? where does it go
46:06 <Nothing\> oh okay i see what you mean now by the water
46:10 <Nothing\> yeah that's a good point
46:18 <Ampera> I mean if it's molten it might evaporate
46:21 <Nothing\> i should look into what's produced on the other electrode, it can't be water
46:22 <Ampera> (the water)
46:29 <Nothing\> yeah that would probably happen
46:42 <Nothing\> i'm not sure the melting point of sodium hydroxide but i would imagine it's over 100c
46:47 <Nothing\> oooh actually
46:56 <Nothing\> speaking of salt, now i remember how it's done with salt
47:03 <Nothing\> same thing, electrolysis of molten salt
47:16 <Nothing\> but i don't think it's practical
47:47 <Nothing\> yup, i just double checked and that would surely produce sodium metal
47:48 <Ampera> the other issue is how much would I make for a sodium bomb
48:05 <Ampera> because whenever I think of how big of a bomb should you make for fun, that seems like a stupid question
48:08 <Nothing\> it's best to start low and get an idea what it's going to do
48:14 <Nothing\> lol
48:22 <Nothing\> it depends how many people are near you
48:34 <Nothing\> and how much you care about bothering them
48:51 <Nothing\> i really wanna get some dry ice, but damned if i know where to get it
49:05 <Nothing\> everything i consult says you can get it at walmart, but damned if anyone i asked there even knew what it was
49:11 <Nothing\> "sorry we don't have an ice machine here"
49:14 * Nothing\ rolls his eyes
49:31 <Ampera> I mean of course I'd make a small test piece to understand the mechanics and develop a competent bomb and detonation system with safety measures
49:34 <Ampera> Nothing\, party store
49:41 <Nothing\> it's like when i went in looking for grapefruit juice and they're like "i dunno what that is, but we've got grape juice"
49:47 <Ampera> lol
50:04 <Ampera> Grapefruit juice reminds me of tonic water, which tastes very similar, and is something I plan to give to my grandfather
50:17 <Ampera> who loves grapefruit juice, but due to renal issues, he can't drink
50:27 <Ampera> but tonic water is almost identical (to me) in taste
50:31 <Nothing\> chances are he's on medications it interacts with as well
50:40 <Ampera> Quinine?
50:46 <Nothing\> nah, the grapefruit juice
50:47 <Ampera> or grapefruit juice
50:48 <Ampera> ah
51:10 <Nothing\> it inhibits an enzyme that metabolizes a lot of drugs, so it can mess with their effectiveness if they use that particular enzyme
51:12 <Ampera> but that's why I'd want to give him tonic water, as it's just water, quinine, and this one has a bit of sugar and citric acid (not much)
51:19 <Nothing\> i take it to augment the effectiveness of my methadone
51:34 <Nothing\> or rather i did until i couldn't find it anymore, but i found pomegranate juice does the same thing
51:37 <Ampera> why not just take less methadone
51:46 <Nothing\> that's the plan eventually
51:52 <Ampera> ah
51:55 <Nothing\> but it makes it last longer
52:02 <Ampera> Do you watch Top Gear?
52:03 <Nothing\> and i have a problem where it wears off too soon
52:13 <Nothing\> i used to watch it, mostly just the specials though
52:19 <Nothing\> not since they canned jeremy though
52:30 <Ampera> I've been watching it because I've got nothing better to do
52:36 <Ampera> (these are all original cast ones)
52:42 <Ampera> Series 1-21
52:43 <Nothing\> it's a really great show
52:49 <Nothing\> i don't care about cars, but i found it interesting
53:18 <Nothing\> i didn't like the regular episodes though cuz they went too much into detail about the car stuff that i didn't care about, i liked the specials where they did more hands on stuff
53:22 <Ampera> I watched one where they were buying cars from a car auction, and it amazed me that they had a Citroen from the 1970's in France, that didn't have a starter motor.
53:41 <Nothing\> my one friend's coworker had a citroen
53:49 <Nothing\> you could modify it to run on 3 wheels
53:56 <Nothing\> i dunno why though
53:57 <Ampera> but 1970s, like I even think 1977, and no starter motor
54:10 <Ampera> that blew my mind that cars that new would still do that
54:42 <Nothing\> how do you mean? i'm not too knowledgable about cars aside from the basics of combustion engines and transmission
55:06 <Ampera> Well, the cars need a bit of momentum in order to start going, and normally cars would have a starter motor.
55:17 <Ampera> So you turn the key, it runs the motor until the engine can operate under its own power.
55:25 <Nothing\> oh okay, like how people used to have to crank the engine to get it going, or pull on that cord
55:38 <Ampera> On this car, and cars like the Model T, in order to start the engine, you need to go to the front, get a crank, and start it manually.
55:41 <Nothing\> so apparently they just replaced that mechanism with what? a little 2 stroke engine or something?
55:44 <Ampera> Yeah, with a lawnmower that's the same thing.
55:50 <Ampera> lol
55:53 <Ampera> 2 stroke engine
55:59 <Nothing\> actually you need to start those the same way don't you
56:06 <Ampera> They replaced it with an electric motor
56:09 <Nothing\> so how do you start the starter motor?
56:11 <Nothing\> ahhh
56:22 <Ampera> since like the 40's, maybe 30's
56:36 <Ampera> but here is a mid 70's car from France that doesn't have a starter motor.
56:37 <Nothing\> ah so that's why you've gotta roll a car with a dead battery down a hill to get it started
56:44 <Nothing\> it's all coming together now
57:03 <Ampera> Nothing\, in theory yes, since once it starts up, the alternator can power itself, or the power might be enough to do the spark, but not the motor.
57:36 <Nothing\> i wonder why cars don't have some sort of emergency crank mechanism for that situation
57:45 <Nothing\> what if you can't find a hill?
57:50 <Ampera> Nothing\, jump
57:54 <Nothing\> true
57:56 <Ampera> which is what most people do anyways
58:05 <Nothing\> i guess that makes more sense lol
58:10 <Ampera> and you don't need a hill, you just need a flat stretch of road
58:23 <Ampera> if you push it hard enough, that will be enough to start the engine
59:04 <Ampera> which is funny, because in another Top Gear episode, about 80's hot hatchbacks, in one of them, Jeremy Clarkson got in the car, I believe put the hazard light switch in backwards, which started the electronics in the car, and allowed you to push start it.
59:08 <Ampera> all without using the key
59:32 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNdygguAMQA this one
59:39 <Nothing\> lol reminds me of this scene in breaking bad where their car battery died when they were in the desert and the solution was to "trickle charge" it by connecting it to a generator and hand cranking it until the battery was charged, i'm thinking even if you could charge a battery on AC like that, it wouldn't charge up any higher than the paltry voltage you're producing by hand cranking it
00:02 <Nothing\> lol that's awesome
00:07 <Nothing\> starting a car with the hazard light button
00:54 <Ampera> Nothing\, what they do have, Big Clive showed this, is lithium ion battery packs intended for emergency jump starts.
01:07 <Nothing\> oh yeah that'd be a great idea
01:14 <Nothing\> except, could they handle that sort of current?
01:24 <Nothing\> i'm not sure how much current that'd draw but i'd imagine quite a bit
01:26 <Ampera> that you can keep in your glove box or trunk, and use an excuse to your insurance company why your car decided to spontaneously and exothermically oxidize
01:36 <Nothing\> haha
01:37 <Ampera> Nothing\, you don't need to, you just need to slowly charge the battery
01:45 <Nothing\> ah yeah that's true
01:46 <Ampera> hook it up, wait 10-20 minutes, and you're off again.
01:57 <Nothing\> that is a great idea
02:14 <Nothing\> you wouldn't even need that many cells, what? 4? 5?
02:22 <Nothing\> for the ~12v
02:24 <Ampera> As I said, big clive showed a few
02:37 <Ampera> speaking of YouTube, did you listen to Telephone Line?
02:55 <Nothing\> lol i remembered the other day while i was listening to pink floyd but i couldn't remember the name of the song
03:13 <Ampera> It's not important, it's more of a joke to remind you now than anything
03:22 <Nothing\> lol now trying to write it down, my pen's dead
03:32 <Ampera> I use a fountain pen myself.
03:37 <Nothing\> stupid cheap vape shop pens
03:39 <Ampera> so if it dies I can pop in a new cartridge immediately.
03:52 <Nothing\> i just use ballpoints, but i don't like these cheap ones i get for free from places
03:53 <Ampera> well technically not a fountain pen, just the same style
04:04 <Ampera> Nothing\, get Frixion pens form Pilot
04:06 <Nothing\> they get that thing where bits of inky paper get stuck to the tip and i have to wipe it off
04:11 <Ampera> they erase really well, even better than pencils
04:25 <Nothing\> hrm i'll have to look into that, i really do need a good pen or pens
04:44 <Nothing\> although i dunno how well that'd work cuz i usually just keep 20 or so pens floating around my house so i always have one in arm's reach
04:46 <Ampera> If I need to erase, I use them. They have a thermal ink, and by the friction of using a hard rubber (which is on the pens), you can generate enough heat to make it invisible.
04:56 <Nothing\> that's pretty cool
04:59 <Ampera> They're not that cheap, but they're not overly expensive.
05:06 <Ampera> Yeah they erase to basically invisible, it's incredible.
05:10 <Nothing\> it'd be worth it i would imagine
05:20 <Nothing\> especially cuz i have a bad habit of doing math in pen
05:25 <Nothing\> i just hate using pencils
05:35 <Ampera> Nothing\, I do all my math with a cartridge nib pen
05:40 <Ampera> no erasing
05:47 <Nothing\> the tip dulls so quickly so i'm constantly rotating the pencil as i write so it keeps an even point
05:58 <Ampera> I find I can write faster and neater with a fountain/cartridge pen than I can with a ballpoint.
06:02 <Nothing\> and screw mechanical pencils
06:14 <Nothing\> i've never used a fountain pen, but you've got me curious now
06:19 <Ampera> I'm iffy on pencils. I have to use a wood pencil, but I have so much downward pressure, especially when going fast, I will break a mechanical pencil every time.
06:25 <Nothing\> just for the classiness of it, if nothing else
06:31 <Nothing\> it'd go nicely with my pocket watch
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06:45 <Ampera> Nothing\, You have to hold it in a very specific manner, but what's really nice is you need 0 pressure, so if you have pressure control issues like I, you can go nuts without putting anything down on it
06:53 <Nothing\> heh when you were in school, did you ever use those big ass red pencils?
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07:07 <Ampera> How big, because I have a /very/ big pencil
07:10 <Nothing\> i just remembered them, they're like twice as thick as normal pencils, red and round instead of octagonal or whatever
07:23 <Ampera> Oh those. I do have some of those, but they are yellow
07:27 <Ampera> and I never went to school
07:32 <Nothing\> home school?
07:36 <Ampera> aye
07:42 <Nothing\> that's gotta be tough socially
07:46 <Ampera> Nothing\, not at all.
07:55 <Ampera> My social interactions were really honed on the internet.
08:02 <Nothing\> yeah i guess if you're the sort of thrives in isolation rather than loathing it
08:19 <Ampera> If anything it brought me more confidence and communication skills than if I were to have gone to a school here.
08:32 <Ampera> I learned to have a very thick skin, and to find friendship in people who harass me.
09:05 <Nothing\> yeah i have no patience for toxic people in my life anymore
09:08 <Nothing\> i've dealt with way too many
09:14 <Ampera> Nothing\, I have infinite patience for most of them.
09:28 <Ampera> To the point where I find it odd that others do not, and have difficulty dealing with assholes.
09:36 <Ampera> since I just learned to very easily deal with them.
09:40 <Ampera> and have always been around them
10:36 <Nothing\> i just don't like that being around people will cause their personality to rub off on you, even if just subconsciously, so i figure it's preferable to have nobody rather than toxic people
10:47 <Nothing\> but then you can't always weed people out of your life so easily
11:22 <Ampera> Nothing\, people will always act to you in a specific way, but if you look to befriend someone, the worst position you can be in is for them to ignore you
11:31 <Ampera> and the absolute best position one can be in is for them to be making fun of you.
11:38 <Ampera> There is no faster nor easier way, in my opinion, to make friends.
11:53 <Nothing\> it's been a long time since i've had friends in real life
12:02 <Nothing\> or even just acquaintances
12:12 <Nothing\> at least 10 years, maybe more
12:21 <Ampera> Nothing\, real life is harder to deal with in terms of social interactions than the internet, but many of the same rules apply.
12:41 <Nothing\> i'm just not a social person, so i know literally nobody in real life aside from my mom and a few family members i never see
13:04 <Ampera> I'm not an antisocial person, but the internet is my neighborhood, and my friends just happen to be here, and have for ages.
13:33 <Ampera> I've made real life friends, but I've found it harder to get to really know people in real life, since you can't as easily spend as much time with people in real life
13:42 <Nothing\> the thing i don't like about real life is i feel trapped when i'm in a social interaction, in that i don't feel that there's any elegant or easy way to get out of that situation if/when i feel the need, on the internet i can just close whatever chat program i'm using and that's that
13:43 <Ampera> whereas on the internet, it's considerably easier to do so, and often even faster to communicate.
13:51 <Nothing\> an easy way to abort the interaction, i should say
14:09 <Ampera> Nothing\, it depends on the interaction. Sometimes conversations are easy enough to just walk away from, nothing said.
14:19 <Ampera> sometimes it's impolite to do so, and there are social conversational traps
14:42 <Nothing\> that's how i've always been, keeping all my friends online, although i even ditched that eventually too, so i don't even really have online friends anymore aside from you
14:56 <Nothing\> this place is the only place i talk to anybody anymore
14:57 <Ampera> in which you can either find engagement in the conversation, or override the impoliteness and leave anyways, either with an excuse, or just telling them you're getting annoyed.
15:20 <Ampera> Nothing\, I've been in situations like that, where I'd be kicked out of online groups or I'd loose friends.
15:38 <Ampera> It depends on if you like that or not, but there was literally one time where I just opened up the server listings for a game
15:46 <Ampera> pointed at one, said, yes I'm going to become staff in that server
15:47 <Ampera> and then did it
15:51 <Nothing\> that's the other thing, i never feel like i fit in anywhere i go
15:59 <Ampera> you fit in here
16:09 <Nothing\> and although fitting in isn't a great priority to me, i'm human so i still desire it from time to time
16:18 <Nothing\> yeah that's why i come here, likeminded people
16:22 <Ampera> Fitting in is a funny concept to me.
16:43 <Ampera> To fit in is to measure your social success by your own standards.
16:57 <Ampera> If you are with friends, or even not, and are having a good time, that's all that matters.
17:07 <Nothing\> exactly
17:10 <Ampera> Sometimes it doesn't even matter if the company you keep are alike in any way
17:16 <Nothing\> people dwell way too much on social standing
18:07 <Ampera> Oh man I was playing Pavlov VR the other day and holy crap have computer models gotten good.
18:22 <Nothing\> pavlov vr, sounds like a mindfuck lol
18:22 <Ampera> I couldn't even see the triangles on the gun models, it was so good
18:30 <Ampera> It's just counter strike in VR
18:33 <Nothing\> ah
18:52 <Nothing\> heh i just started saving up to buy a switch last month
19:02 <Nothing\> except i figured out it's gonna take the better part of a year to do so
19:30 <Ampera> don't bother, the switch is a disaster
19:33 <Nothing\> i was excited to find they released final fantasy xii on the switch, gave me more reason to buy it because i was considering getting a ps4 just so i could have that
19:45 <Nothing\> yeah but there are a bunch of games on it i want
19:47 <Ampera> I'd actually buy the PS4 instead
19:56 <Ampera> but, if possible, I'd get a PC.
19:58 <Nothing\> there's nothing on the ps4 that interests me, or very little anyways
20:08 <Nothing\> i have a ps3 and i haven't even touched half of the games i bought for it
20:09 <Nothing\> literally
20:19 <Ampera> I never use my consoles, everything I do is on PC
20:31 <Nothing\> out of maybe 20 games, i've only played maybe 5 or 6 on a regular basis
20:46 <Nothing\> i'd like to get a PC but i can't until my legal problems are done
21:00 <Ampera> If I was given a free PS4 right now ('d give it to you), but if I wouldn't, I'd never touch it.
21:08 <Ampera> *i'd
21:24 <Ampera> Do they really restrict you from owning a PC?
21:31 <Nothing\> yeah, bail conditions
21:41 <Ampera> Does the RasPi not count?
22:00 <Nothing\> so how's the weather? lol
22:04 <Ampera> lo
22:06 <Ampera> l
22:17 <Nothing\> nah, technically the pi is my mom's
22:23 <Ampera> there you go
22:31 <Nothing\> i bought it to replace her laptop
22:34 <Nothing\> lol
22:44 <Ampera> what about mobile devices like smartphones or tablets?
23:04 <Nothing\> nope, can't posses anything like that
23:19 <Nothing\> but that's fine cuz i don't care for them anyways
23:31 <Ampera> well if you could I'd suggest you get a Surface Pro
23:38 <Nothing\> at least outside of things like navigation or web browsing when i'm not home, but i rarely leave home anyways so it's not an issue
23:45 <Nothing\> what's that?
24:04 <Ampera> I have a Surface Pro 3, but it's a PC compatible tablet made by Microsoft
24:07 <Ampera> and pretty powerful too
24:11 <Nothing\> oh cool
24:30 <Nothing\> i've seen a few pi type devices that are more powerful and comparably priced
24:39 <Nothing\> but i don't think they'd be as easy to set up
25:02 <Nothing\> it would be nice to have a windows machine though
25:12 <Ampera> Nah I run Linux on it
25:14 <Nothing\> or something that's actually powerful enough to play youtube videos
25:38 <Nothing\> i'm sure a pi could play media just fine if you had a dedicated OS for doing that, but from raspbian it's absolutely unusable for that purpose
25:50 <Nothing\> i can't even run an NES emulator on this thing faster than 10fps
26:07 <Ampera> Android?
26:10 <Nothing\> they should really make like, a graphics accellerator shield for it
26:25 <Ampera> Which pi is it?
26:31 <Nothing\> 3 b
26:40 <Ampera> hm
26:58 <Nothing\> i made sure to get the newest one, lol they had a 2 they were selling locally at the surplus store, but they wanted $80 for it
27:01 <Ampera> have you thought about using youtube-dl?
27:23 <Nothing\> i can't even do that cuz just playing video on it is choppy
27:30 <Ampera> using what?
27:35 <Ampera> at what resolution
27:36 <Nothing\> vlc, i think
27:48 <Nothing\> it was at 720p
27:50 <Ampera> really? My model 1 raspi could handle 1080p video afaik
28:03 <Nothing\> but i tried playing youtube videos, just streaming at even 240p and it was choppy
28:19 <Nothing\> even using this h.264ify plugin
28:36 <Nothing\> so i dunno, but i can at least watch youtube on my tv
28:43 <Ampera> download videos at 480 via youtube-dl?
28:55 <Nothing\> that might work
29:07 <Nothing\> i couldn't find a good youtube downloader anyways, none of them worked
29:11 <Ampera> I mean I have a Raspi 3 B, if you want I could try to arrange an SD card or something with a system that works better
29:18 <Ampera> youtube-dl, it's a command line tool
29:24 <Ampera> send it through you in a letter
29:26 <Ampera> *to
29:28 <Nothing\> ah
29:35 <Nothing\> well it's not a huge deal anyways
29:45 <Nothing\> oh yeah speaking of which, i finally got my ds flash cart working
29:57 <Ampera> I'll look into doing that anyways, as I am curious if you really can't watch videos on a Raspi 3B
30:42 <Ampera> hey Nothing\, do you want a mindfuck?
30:44 <Nothing\> man that was a hassle, couldn't find a 4gb micro sd card anywhere, then when i do find one i can't find a usb adapter locally, so i order one, then the day it arrives i find a better one in my desk lol
30:51 <Nothing\> heh sure, i'm always up for a mindfuck
31:00 <Ampera> your mind automatically translates wtf, but not lol
31:12 <Nothing\> lol that is weird
31:15 <Nothing\> i wonder why
31:28 <Ampera> I'd imagine because lol is easier to pronounce out loud
31:29 <Nothing\> maybe it's the number of syllables
31:32 <Nothing\> yeah
31:34 <Ampera> since it has a vowel
31:45 <Ampera> brb and rofl are the same
31:53 <Nothing\> w is a crappy letter in terms of syllables
31:59 <Ampera> afk and rip
32:30 <Nothing\> yeah i alway think brb instead of be right back, but they both have the same number of syllables so i wonder why my mind prefers one over the other
32:42 <Ampera> Eh, this gives me an opportunity to check on Arch Linux for raspi too
33:30 <Nothing\> one thing like that that i thought was neat was when you're describing something with multiple adjectives, like "the big, round, red, bouncy ball" there's a proper order for the types of adjectives, but we arrange them in that order without even realizing it or thinking about it
33:50 <Nothing\> like there's a proper order for the types of adjectives like color, size, shape etc
34:16 <Ampera> aye
34:16 <Nothing\> actually ironically i think i got the order of my example wrong lol
34:29 <Nothing\> i think it should have been the big, round, bouncy red ball
34:46 <Ampera> big, red, round, bouncy ball
34:56 <Nothing\> it's weird how we adhere to these complex grammatical rules without even realizing it or thinking about it
35:09 <Nothing\> most of us, anyways
35:20 <Ampera> I love the word llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch though
35:32 <Ampera> technically not a word, it's a place name
36:07 <Nothing\> i like pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis
36:41 <Ampera> As a German (with vague experience in the language), that's not too hard
36:41 <Nothing\> apparently there's one chemical whose iupac name requires a several hundred page book to write down
36:55 <Ampera> since German likes to pretend it's a polysynthetic language
36:59 <Nothing\> yeah there are a lot of compound words like that in chemistry and medicine, so i'm used to it
37:41 <Ampera> I bought candy from the asian market
37:48 <Ampera> brown candy
37:53 <Nothing\> nice, i like foreign candy
38:05 <Nothing\> i don't like a lot of american candy for some reason
38:06 <Ampera> It has one ingredient.
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38:13 <Ampera> Brown sugar
38:29 <Nothing\> nice, i used to like eating brown sugar plain
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38:44 <Nothing\> anyways i've gotta head out and start emptying out my storage unit, i'm hoping to get it empty by the end of the month so i can stop wasting money on it
38:51 <Ampera> Then you'd like this, it's a dollar, and I got 400g of brown sugar sticks
38:57 <Ampera> alright, have a good day, ciao
39:08 <Nothing\> yeah you too many, was good talking
39:11 <Nothing\> *man
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07:17 <Halcyon> Oh wow, we have an "Involuntary medication objectors (vaccination/fluoride)" political party now
07:37 <Halcyon> When I said society was getting stupider, I didn't actually think it was going to happen
12:11 <Halcyon> ROFL, their whole argument is based on "genuine scientific uncertainty about the benefits and risks" (of vaccination and fluoridated water)... but don't actually tell you what the uncertainty is, nor cite any evidence. It's just "their belief".
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35:28 <vince> hi all!
37:53 <Halcyon> Hey vince
38:26 <vince> hello Halcyon
43:11 <Stiff> hello
43:32 <vince> whats going on today?
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01:35 <DogWomble> Things are going on
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17:57 <steve30> hi
18:51 <DogWomble> hi
18:52 * T3sl4 coffees steve30
19:13 <steve30> :p
36:36 <steve30> mmm, coffee was nice
36:52 <T3sl4> :)
49:30 <Halcyon> Morning Steve :)
49:43 * Halcyon fondles T3sl4 whilst still making eye contact with steve30 
50:11 * T3sl4 makes eye contact with Halcyon and scritches steve30
50:19 <Halcyon> Bitch
50:20 * Stiff fondles himself
50:25 * steve30 purrs at T3sl4 
50:32 <T3sl4> Stiff: your name is self explanatory
50:36 <Halcyon> YAY for fondling!
50:38 <Stiff> ;)
51:42 <Stiff> everyone needs to fondle and be fondled
52:10 * steve30 fondles Halcyon 
52:21 <Halcyon> \o/
52:29 <Halcyon> I agree Stiff
52:36 <Halcyon> It's so much fun and good for the mind
52:48 * Ampera sneezes on Halcyon 
52:52 <Stiff> yep, good for the health
53:30 <Halcyon> Thanks for that Ampera
53:37 <Ampera> how do
53:38 <Halcyon> At least you can say you got me moist
53:45 <Halcyon> Yeh not bad mate, you ?
54:26 <Ampera> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
54:53 <Stiff> hahahah "moist"
55:10 <steve30> Halcyon, looks like I'm meeting fetish-site-guy for coffee on wednesday
55:28 <Halcyon> For coffee or for "coffee"?
55:37 <Halcyon> (or both)?
55:53 <Stiff> what kind of fetich
55:57 <Stiff> fetish*
56:06 <steve30> Halcyon, good question
56:08 <Ampera> Stiff, nobody wants to ask him
56:13 <Halcyon> Also, what are you into steve30 ?
56:21 <Halcyon> I kind of want to know :P
56:41 <Stiff> genuinely interested
56:56 <Ampera> I just imagine I'll be disappointed
57:13 * T3sl4 coffees Ampera too
57:15 <Halcyon> So am I. I'm pretty vanilla, so this stuff intrigues me
58:06 <Halcyon> I still reckon Steve is a furry :)
58:45 <Halcyon> He also has this habit of dropping a sexy bomb in the channel and then disappearing for prolonged periods....
58:56 <steve30> Halcyon, well, i recently made a photo of me wearing my new latex shorts, along with handcuffs and a ballgag.
59:08 <Halcyon> Can I see said photo?
59:09 <Stiff> i see
59:25 <Halcyon> You showed me the shorts, you never told me you ordered them
59:50 <steve30> I ordered some the other week. They go nicely with my latex top.
00:12 <Ampera> compared to what I'm into, that's positively puritan
00:15 <Halcyon> How do I order your album Steve? :P
00:56 <steve30> I guess I'll upload some publicly for halcyon's amusement.
01:01 <Halcyon> \o/
02:47 <steve30> This will do for now.
02:48 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/f/latex3.JPG
03:22 <T3sl4> "who likes short shorts!!?"
03:28 <T3sl4> steve30 likes short shorts :)
03:43 <Halcyon> You need the bear slippers to go with that dance
04:00 <Halcyon> But very nice Steve, you usually come across as so innocent, but that look makes me think otherwise.
04:25 * steve30 innocently meows
04:27 <Ampera> In order for me to show even examples of what I'm into, I'd have to force all viewers to a strict NDA
04:51 <Halcyon> Any more Steve ? ;-)
05:02 <Halcyon> Also, is there an opening in the back of those shorts?
05:14 <Halcyon> Ampera, just share already, I'm pretty sure no one gives a crap
05:20 <steve30> Halcyon, no openings
05:30 <Halcyon> Then what the hell are you supposed to do?
05:36 <Ampera> Halcyon, but it's not fun if I don't lead you on im perpetuum
05:55 <steve30> I do have more, but they can wait for later :p
06:05 <Halcyon> Ampera: But that's when I get bored and stop caring
06:10 <T3sl4> Halcyon, Ampera's the one with the trap door, remember, teletubbies?
06:20 <Ampera> lol
06:25 <Halcyon> Steve: Aww, not even a few from the black label collection? :P
06:35 <Halcyon> LOL T3sl4
06:56 * steve30 passes Ampera some tubby-toast
07:20 <Ampera> What I'm into requires a considerable amount of metal and carbon.
07:49 <Halcyon> Cages?
08:03 <Ampera> you wish
08:17 <Halcyon> You don't know me :P
08:34 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBZs_Py-1_0 cages of rust?
08:45 <Ampera> Halcyon, you got a job at a cop, obviously you like putting people in cages.
09:11 <Halcyon> Our cells don't have bars
09:19 <Halcyon> They are solid steel with sheets of perspex
09:49 <Ampera> I said steel and carbon, not bars
09:54 <Ampera> which I believe is steel and perspex
10:04 <T3sl4> perspex is 76% carbon
10:12 <Halcyon> You like to be locked in a box?
10:25 <Ampera> nope
10:39 * Halcyon focusses on Steve some more
10:57 <steve30> ok, i'll amuse Halcyon some more
10:57 <steve30> http://stevecoates.net/f/cuffs2.JPG
11:06 <Halcyon> Bah
11:15 <Halcyon> You should try my cuffs :P
11:44 <T3sl4> oooh, shiny
11:50 <Halcyon> Very
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12:10 <Halcyon> Also T3sl4... aren't you afraid you'll see peen if you click on one of those links?
12:47 <T3sl4> steve30 is too innocent to post dick picks in public
12:53 <Halcyon> True
12:55 <T3sl4> ...i think? :P
13:05 <Halcyon> No, I think you're absolutely right
13:08 <steve30> I don't do photos of private parts :)
13:12 <Ampera> I have a penis permanently attached to my body, why would I be afraid of seeing one
13:13 <Halcyon> He saves it for the bedroom
13:17 <Ampera> or T3sl4
13:37 <Halcyon> Well straight guys don't normally like to see photos of other guy's penis's
14:08 <T3sl4> i know, lesbian porn is awesome
14:34 <Halcyon> Ew no
14:54 <steve30> I'm not really into penis photos. They all look the same to me.
15:05 <T3sl4> seems to be a bit asymmetrical, not all women like gay porn, but most men like lesbian porn
16:47 <Ampera> Then what am I, I don't like any porn.
16:55 <Ampera> well except for /that/ porn
17:07 <T3sl4> you're Ampera :)
17:15 <Ampera> oh fuck
17:29 <Ampera> I just remembered I'm me, that sucks
18:08 <Stiff> im straight Halcyon
18:18 <Stiff> but sometimes its hard not to have a quick look
18:20 <Stiff> dunno why
18:26 <Ampera> Stiff, that means you're the only straight guy here
18:44 <Stiff> I figured Ampera :)
18:46 <T3sl4> morbid curiosity?
18:56 <Ampera> T3sl4, mmmm, morbid
19:05 * T3sl4 high-fives Stiff with a nice big "no homo" cheer
19:13 <Stiff> T3sl4, maybe size curiosity?
19:23 * steve30 thinks its time for more coffee
21:24 <Halcyon> Yeh my best mate is curious as well
21:33 <Halcyon> As in he was comparing himself to others
22:26 <Stiff> yeah i feel for me its like a dont stare at the head lights kinda thing
22:42 <Ampera> My penis is tiny, why would I be curious about other people's size
23:02 <Halcyon> You're the exception Ampera
23:12 <Halcyon> A lot of guys worry about their size
23:28 <Ampera> Halcyon, my friend once told me the longer it is the more painful it would be to shove it back inside of me
23:36 <Halcyon> *shrug*
23:57 <Halcyon> I'm Euro, mine's pretty :P
24:46 <Ampera> Halcyon, I'm German/French, I'm more European than you.
24:51 <steve30> Guys are usually impressed by how big mine is :)
25:17 <Halcyon> :P
25:18 <Ampera> you guys remember the days when we talked about electronics
25:24 <Halcyon> Steve pics or it didn't happen :)
25:40 <Halcyon> Ampera: I'm full blood Finnish
25:53 <T3sl4> i mean, it doesn't need to be terrifically long either way; vaginas normally just aren't all that deep, and the prostate isn't very far inside
26:06 <Halcyon> This is true T3sl4
26:12 <Halcyon> I think girth is important too
26:21 <Halcyon> There is such a thing as too big
26:22 <T3sl4> (though if you're into deep anal, that would be a thing)
26:30 <steve30> Ampera, I suggest we rename this channel #halcyonssupergaychannel
26:33 <Halcyon> I went to the academy with a guy who had a 30cm penis
26:39 <Halcyon> The poor bastard
26:44 <Ampera> steve30, but I'm not gay
26:47 <Ampera> gay is icky, gay is bad
26:55 <Halcyon> Fuck off Ampera :P Gay is good
27:19 <Halcyon> I reckon Steve is a shower rather than a grower
28:12 <Ampera> oh no more homosexualeese
28:27 * T3sl4 slaps around Ampera with a big rubber dick
28:48 <Ampera> you see I'm not sure what would be gay for me anymore
29:01 <Halcyon> What do you mean Amps?
29:33 <Ampera> well you know how fucked in the head I am
29:44 <Ampera> so I don't know what would be straight and what would be gay
29:54 <Ampera> so I've fixed the problem by being bi, but that just brushes it aside, instead of answers it
30:42 <Halcyon> Dick in ass = Gay
31:02 <Ampera> so male dick in female ass is gay?
31:20 <Ampera> you never told me you liked women, but just anal
34:06 <T3sl4> the nice thing about butts is everyone has one
54:09 * steve30 hugs Halcyon 
54:30 * Halcyon cuddles steve30 
54:38 <Halcyon> ... then whips him good
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20:54 <T3sl4> (afraid there's no feline version of the joke so this will have to do :P )
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