// #eevblog — 2019-05-11
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03:16:20 <Nothing\> man i'm having a hell of a time finding just a plain VCO chip
03:16:34 <Nothing\> i found these 74ls624s, but they're like $6 or $7 each :o
03:17:03 <Nothing\> thinking maybe i could just use one of those cd4046 PLL chips and just use the VCO section from it or something
03:19:19 <Ampera> hi Nothing\
03:19:40 <Nothing\> hey Ampera lol how'd i know it was you when i saw the blinking to notify me somebody spoke
03:19:43 <Nothing\> how's it going?
03:19:48 <Ampera> because I'm always here
03:19:49 <Ampera> is good
03:19:57 <Nothing\> good to hear for a change
03:20:00 <Nothing\> :D
03:20:21 <Nothing\> but yeah, it seems like you and i are about the only ones who are ever here, at least at this time of the day
03:20:39 <Ampera> There are other people, but since this is an Australian channel and server
03:20:41 <Ampera> they're all asleep
03:21:54 <Nothing\> that makes sense
03:22:09 <Nothing\> i always wondered though why so many people just sit and idle on here 24/7 and literally never talk
03:22:25 <Nothing\> i guess some have autojoin and just talk in other channels
03:22:44 <Nothing\> lol jspiros tried to tell me it's because i talk in a way that makes it difficult for them to respond
03:22:57 <Nothing\> cuz that totally has something to do with why people idle in here
03:26:39 <Ampera> Anyways, my SSD's coming in soon
03:33:12 Quit: TMS ([email protected]) Quit: http://www.kiwiirc.com/ - A hand crafted IRC client
03:48:53 <Nothing\> nice, what size?
03:49:13 <Nothing\> i'm still waiting on like 15+ packages from aliexpress i ordered back in february
03:50:06 <Nothing\> i finally just put in a refund claim for all of them and reordered a few things, i get the feeling though the original orders are gonna arrive and i'm gonna end up with like 50 p channel jfets and PLL ICs
03:50:22 <Nothing\> all i needed was 1 of the jfets
03:58:16 <Nothing\> huh there was a swarm of ants outside on my patio and i doused em in vinegar, it seemed to work really well to kill em all
04:05:51 <Nothing\> what's the point of a savings account if the service fees cost more than the interest you make on it?
04:19:04 <Ampera> Nothing\, 1TB 2280
04:19:23 <Ampera> and I use a credit union, my account has no service fees
04:20:00 <Nothing\> niice, i've never had the pleasure of an SSD
04:20:14 <Nothing\> there's a bank here that doesn't charge service fees, maybe i should look into them
04:20:16 <Ampera> NVMe, 2710 MB/s max seq read, 1775 MB's max seq write
04:20:30 <Ampera> always go credit union
04:20:32 <Nothing\> although i think i defrauded them some years back so i'm not sure i'm welcome there anymore
04:20:48 <DHess_US> <Nothing\> lol jspiros tried to tell me it's because i talk in a way that makes it difficult for them to respond
04:20:48 <Ampera> also your raspi uses an SSD
04:20:54 <DHess_US> No, it is because you use cat grammar.
04:21:00 <Nothing\> cat grammar?
04:21:08 <DHess_US> See? You did it again.
04:21:08 <Nothing\> but yeah i know, i use commas in place of periods on irc for some reason
04:21:26 <Nothing\> what is cat grammar?
04:22:28 <DHess_US> No capitols, bad grammar, bad spelling, etc.
04:22:57 <Ampera> DHess_US, >bad spelling >no capitols
04:23:00 <Ampera> get fucked
04:23:11 <DHess_US> Hey, he asked.
04:23:13 <Nothing\> hey i don't use bad spelling, but yes on irc i know my grammar is bad but i don't feel it's really necessary on irc except for the sake of making it slightly more readable, which is why i use commas the way i do
04:23:25 <Ampera> DHess_US, it's spelled capital you moron
04:23:27 <Nothing\> DHess_US: he was pointing out the fact that you misspelled capital lol
04:23:38 <DHess_US> Ampera, my spelling teacher was Greek.
04:23:39 <Nothing\> it's okay though Ampera i did ask,
04:23:54 <Ampera> DHess_US, good thing we're not speaking Greek.
04:24:02 <Nothing\> that's okay, not one of my french teachers in 9 years of classes actually spoke french natively
04:24:21 <Nothing\> so i learned decades later that not one bit of the pronunciation i was taught was correct
04:24:32 <Ampera> oh nice
04:24:40 <DHess_US> A strong Greek accent is antithetical to learning good spelling.
04:24:42 <Nothing\> actually i don't even think they spoke french period
04:25:00 <Nothing\> i think they just knew whatever was in the syllabus
04:25:04 <Ampera> There's a really good trick to learning how to pronounce French
04:25:12 <Ampera> you just speak English, but you suck a fat cock while doing it
04:25:46 <Nothing\> i don't think a cock would fit in my mouth, maybe the head
04:25:57 <Nothing\> perhaps i could bite it off like ozzy osbourne
04:25:59 <DHess_US> So like an alternate timeline Klingon?
04:26:29 <Ampera> man I really want to try sucking a cock
04:27:04 <DHess_US> Reminds me of this, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yz5rx2lHNE
04:27:06 <Nothing\> DHess_US: but yeah i don't really care about grammar on irc since i don't feel it's necessary outside of improving readability, so i do the bare minimum with commas and that's it, but spelling i do my best on
04:27:26 <Nothing\> that just reminded me though of times where i'd see somebody say "i'm a genious"
04:27:32 <Nothing\> and be completely serious in saying it
04:28:42 <Nothing\> i can see how my inconsistent grammar would irritate a pedant (especially if i do this
04:28:52 <Nothing\> :>
04:32:42 <Nothing\> lol got him!
04:32:43 <Nothing\> https://i.imgur.com/kwR4E1Q.jpg
04:32:52 <Nothing\> finally got a good picture
04:33:13 <DHess_US> Those little bastards.
04:33:40 <Nothing\> lol he wants peanuts, even though he's gone through half a pound already today
04:33:55 <DHess_US> One ate through the cable on my external GPS receiver and stole it.
04:34:09 <Nothing\> lol what's a chipmunk want with a gps receiver
04:34:21 <DHess_US> It looks like a giant acorn.
04:34:26 <Nothing\> wait, if he stole your GPS receiver, why not track it?
04:34:35 <Nothing\> lol
04:35:00 <DHess_US> He cut the cable.
04:35:11 <Nothing\> but yeah, i think they've actually in my walls and/or ceiling
04:35:19 <Nothing\> i can hear something crawling in there at night
04:38:31 <Nothing\> these guys make me wanna get a hamster, plus i'd love to turn a hamster wheel into a power generator lol
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07:10:42 <DogWomble> great, now you've made me think of the hamster dane
07:10:46 <DogWomble> *dance
07:12:08 <T3sl4> we love de moon
07:12:17 <T3sl4> oh wait
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08:40:44 <DogWomble> the moom is made of cheese!
08:52:40 <DHess_US> Hmm, so what happens if you mix day and night alka seltzer.
09:31:04 <DogWomble> you open up a tear in the space-time continuum which causes a cat with toast strapped butter-side up to it's back to spin indefinitely in mid air
09:33:22 <DHess_US> Cool.
09:37:34 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/310478241989263371/576555015745830912/Screenshot_1.png
09:37:40 <Ampera> My SSD's installed
09:38:15 <DogWomble> woo!
09:39:25 <DogWomble> which one did you go with/
09:41:23 <Ampera> Mushkin Pilot 1TB
09:41:48 <Ampera> https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820226886
09:41:55 <Ampera> (bought for 135 USD)
09:41:56 <DogWomble> aah, i haven't come across those ones before
09:43:08 <Ampera> Specs are good on it, and it runs fast.
09:44:53 <DogWomble> yeah, i just went with a 970 evo when i went with this, they're not the cheapest drives but i've had a good run with the samsungs
09:45:53 <DogWomble> i tend to be a bit of a creature of habit, if i find something that works i tend to stick with it
09:49:26 <Ampera> Samsung's drives were no can do expensive, this was at the right numbers, and had the numbers to make me happy
09:51:21 <DogWomble> that's fair :)
09:51:47 <Ampera> DogWomble, Real bench: http://i.prntscr.com/XdnoNkg9SZKprvzlvg9ObA.png
09:52:12 <DogWomble> that's not bad :_)
09:52:28 <Ampera> There's like a hundred things that could make this number go all over the place in different situations, but I'm happy with that number
09:52:53 <Ampera> Also, Linux is pleasurably simple to cleanly move from install to install
09:53:11 <Ampera> I just copied everything in my home directory over to the new install, got all the basic packages in, and I'm perfect.
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10:14:07 <Halcyon> Meow
10:14:14 <Ampera> \o/ Halcyon!
10:14:18 <Ampera> how do fren?
10:14:20 <Halcyon> *rubs eyes*
10:14:26 <Halcyon> I'm OK, just woke up, making coffee
10:14:28 <Halcyon> Hows you?
10:14:45 <Ampera> SSD came in and works
10:14:49 <Halcyon> \o/
10:14:53 <Ampera> \o/
10:14:54 <Halcyon> New toys!
10:15:04 <Ampera> Those m.2 SSDs are so damn tiny
10:19:06 <Halcyon> Yeh it's frigging ridiculous how much those little things hold.
10:20:14 <Halcyon> Hey Amps, I ended up getting that thing to work finally and got when I needed from it. Thanks for your help. Could you look at one other quick thing for me?
10:20:23 <Halcyon> http://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/require-some-assistance-from-someone-who-understands-perl/
10:20:24 * DogWomble waves at Halcyon
10:20:25 <Ampera> sure what is it
10:20:34 <Halcyon> It's just deconstructing a script
10:20:38 <Halcyon> Hey DogWomble
10:21:03 <Ampera> Yeah I saw that earlier.
10:21:16 <Ampera> I agree with the person who replied to you, it looks like some sort of backdoor nonsense
10:21:25 <Ampera> with far too many ctcp calls for my liking
10:21:35 <Ampera> but what do you need me to do specifically
10:22:17 <Halcyon> As per my post this morning, I need to find out a little more about how it does what it does.
10:22:34 <Halcyon> I basically need to write a paragraph or two about what would have happened if that was executed on a machine
10:25:12 <Ampera> Halcyon, then execute it on a machine
10:25:19 <Halcyon> I would rather not :P
10:26:04 <Ampera> My guess as to what it is, is it's a program that will mirror shell commands via acting as an IRC server, or basically souped up telnet.
10:26:24 <Ampera> It might be designed to connect to another IRC server, or operate as an IRC server itself, I'm not sure which.
10:26:51 <Ampera> but in the simplest terms, it's a doors open telnet server for anybody who plants it to use
10:27:02 <Ampera> I'm not sure of this, but that's my best guess.
10:27:07 <Halcyon> Right, so the vulnerable machine itself becomes an IRC server
10:27:15 <Halcyon> It doesn't connect to a third party server
10:27:24 <Ampera> You know this or you're asking thing?
10:27:27 <Ampera> *this
10:27:29 <Halcyon> I'm asking
10:27:35 <Ampera> I don
10:27:37 <Ampera> 't know
10:27:41 <Ampera> (I need to stop bumping my enter key)
10:27:45 <Halcyon> OMG Ampera, you're supposed to know everything
10:28:00 <Halcyon> Why do you think I ask you these things :P
10:28:11 <Ampera> Let me take another look at it
10:28:58 <Halcyon> The other question I have is... if I looked at a list of processes running on that machine, how could I tell if that script was executed or not? Would the process name be something obvious?
10:30:19 <Halcyon> It looks to me that its opening up a port at random (based on the @ircport variable)
10:30:21 <Ampera> Halcyon, afaik this script would need to be constantly running to do what it's supposed to do.
10:31:41 <Ampera> Halcyon, this connects to an IRC server
10:31:48 <Halcyon> Right
10:31:48 <Ampera> there is no specific one here
10:32:29 <Halcyon> And that's presumably the my $servidor="3.4.5.6" line?
10:32:36 <Ampera> yeah, that's just placeholder
10:33:40 <Ampera> This looks like it's using some sort of IRC library, but that could be wrong
10:33:47 <Halcyon> And then presumably it forwards PMs or commands given to that in a channel it joined to the Shell ?
10:33:51 <Ampera> Ah, this is someone's skiddie IRC bot
10:34:52 <Ampera> It might
10:35:00 <Ampera> there's some other bits that do things like message or ctcp spamming
10:35:32 <Halcyon> There is a subroutine towards the end called "shell" which I'm interested in
10:35:48 <Ampera> Yes I can see that
10:37:16 <Ampera> The impact of using this script would be fairly minimal.
10:37:30 <Halcyon> Sure, it's just for this demo I'm using for Uni
10:37:45 <Ampera> I don't think this is a viable exploit or virus whatsoever, there's no means for it to reproduce, and the way perl operates, this would be very hard to plant on someone's ocmputer and get it to do things.
10:37:51 <Halcyon> It doesn't need to really do any damage, it's just an example of code being executed by an attacker
10:38:06 <Ampera> I think this is more likely a slightly dubious IRC bot, and I don't really think it can even execute shell commands
10:38:35 <Ampera> the shell might even just be something internal to the bot that was never finished, this honestly looks like someone's pet experiment, and not something serious or too malicious
10:38:51 <Halcyon> I dare say it's purposely designed to be rather innocuous in case one of the students actually executes it on their own machine.
10:39:22 <Halcyon> Would it be fairly say that it is poorly written or incomplete?
10:39:28 <Halcyon> *fair to
10:39:37 <Ampera> It would be very very difficult to accidentally execute this program on your machine, not unless you specifically wanted to run /this/ under the guise of it being something else.
10:40:02 <Ampera> If it did happen, it would do nothing (this version wouldn't even connect to anything), and even if it did, it doesn't look like it's designed to run shell commands
10:40:24 <Ampera> not that you couldn't totally make something that does, likely with very little effort, but this is just something written to annoy other people.
10:40:29 <Ampera> As for it being complete, you'll have to ask the guy who made it.
10:41:02 <Halcyon> I don't know who made it
10:41:15 <Ampera> Perl is a scripting language, and if the intent was to make something malicious for someone else to run on their machine, this is a rather poor way of doing it, there's a plethora of better ways to accomplish this, and I doubt it would have these sort of messing around bot commands like it does.
10:41:35 <Ampera> Where did you get it?
10:42:47 <Halcyon> It was in the log files for the honeypot I'm working on. Two hosts attempted to download that to the honeypot.
10:43:03 <Ampera> That is very strange.
10:43:24 <Ampera> I mean it's still possible this is intended to do that, but in its current state, it's useless
10:43:35 <Halcyon> I think you're right though, it's probably a skiddie's attempt at hax0ring
10:43:53 <Ampera> No, it can't even be that, this is messing around with Perl for a couple days sort of thing
10:43:56 <Halcyon> The honeypot is real and the logs are based on real attacks by real people
10:44:08 <Ampera> It's very very strange that would be downloaded to your honeypot
10:44:16 <Halcyon> *shrug*
10:44:37 <Ampera> also thanks for just spreading a potentially malicious file around like that
10:44:39 <Ampera> real secure
10:47:13 <DHess_US> https://xkcd.com/350/
10:48:12 <Ampera> oh man I'd almost want to do that
10:48:30 <Ampera> but a virus ant farm would be neat until the ants escape
10:54:19 <Halcyon> You're welcome :)
10:55:01 <Halcyon> Not my fault if someone is stupid enough to execute it and make it work
11:16:44 <damian> haha that xkcd is great. i would love to do that
11:16:55 <damian> get the code for viruses, add in tracking mechanisms and see how they fair
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19:00:13 <steve30> hi
19:01:10 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
19:01:33 <steve30> yay hugs :)
19:03:43 <DogWomble_> group hugs!
19:11:05 * T3sl4 hugs Tim
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19:36:41 <DogWomble_> :D
19:37:22 <T3sl4> i was referring to T3sl4 tho
19:37:45 <T3sl4> j/k, it's inclusive
19:39:07 * steve30 hugs steve30
19:45:34 <DogWomble_> we're now doing self-hugs?
20:01:57 <T3sl4> self care is important ;)
20:18:44 * steve30 coffees
20:19:05 <T3sl4> self coffee is important too
21:02:42 <damian> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQfzrBcjoBs
21:11:44 <T3sl4> :D
22:14:06 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.imgur.com/16eIrQS.jpg
22:14:35 <Stiff> trick question damian
22:14:38 <Stiff> was it coffee
22:14:40 <Stiff> or cocain
22:14:45 <Stiff> cocaine*
22:18:26 <T3sl4> cofcaine
22:18:40 <Stiff> plot twist
22:20:56 <T3sl4> nah, twist of meth on top
22:21:22 <T3sl4> it's an americano
22:38:34 <Stiff> well, you need to visit aus if you want to see meth on tap
22:39:32 <T3sl4> true
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