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08:09:00 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVBlog - www.eevblog.com
08:09:00 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Mon Dec 17 17:18:40 2018
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08:09:01 <DHess_US> Huh, so there is a direct competator to Chik-Fil-A here called Raiseing Cane's Chicken Fingers.
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09:29:56 <DHess_US> The sole of my shoe is coming apart. My shoe has no soul.
09:30:53 Quit: Bluenote ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
09:32:23 <DHess_US> It's the cough syrup which makes me gag and not the 50% tequila. That is my story and I am sticking with it.
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09:45:29 Nick: EEVBlog is now known as EEVBlog1
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10:59:50 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: First ride on the driverless #metro https://t.co/nEm6lulkiQ
11:04:58 <DHess_US> You know, I really hate it when something on Windows 10 just works. It makes me wonder what I overlooked and if it involved a trade with the devil for my soul.
11:14:11 <Ampera> DHess_US, fortunately for me, I never had that problem
11:17:55 <DHess_US> I assigned a second IP address and subnet to the ethernet NIC and got an XP machine to talk to it which didn't work previously for ... reasons.
11:18:20 <DHess_US> And it works, and the bottleneck is not the network performance.
11:18:49 <DHess_US> Something is very wrong.
11:19:29 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/gd5WC5R.png
11:20:00 <rust_collector> just wait for the next update. it will delete all your drivers, or something clever
11:20:39 <DHess_US> I tricked it into not updating.
11:20:56 <Ampera> I had an issue with my nvidia drivers on Windows
11:21:07 <Ampera> in that they would semi-break randomly ever so often, and needed to be reinstalled
11:21:13 <DHess_US> So did I. I solved it by throwing the nVidia card in the trash.
11:21:30 <Ampera> I could tell they were broken when I couldn't reach 35FPS on 1993 Doom
11:21:37 <Ampera> using a CPU-driven column renderer
11:21:43 <Ampera> I solved the problem by switching to Linux
11:21:46 <DHess_US> Regression is actually a known issue with graphics drivers.
11:22:01 <Ampera> Regression? The issue is that this would be immediately fixed by simply reinstalling the drivers
11:22:09 <Ampera> and it was not gradual
11:22:20 <DHess_US> Graphics drivers include game specific code but newer graphics drivers dont' include the game specific code for older games.
11:22:22 <Ampera> It's almost as if some sort of memory copy routine was just fucked in the ass
11:22:49 <DHess_US> That's actually a common issue which causes pathalogical performance problems.
11:22:52 <Ampera> DHess_US, when my 486 outperforms my i7-4790k with a GTX 970, like hell is it the fault of game specific code
11:22:55 <DHess_US> Memory management is a big problem.
11:23:14 <Ampera> the thing is it never does this on Linux.
11:23:44 <Ampera> Actually, I wonder, because I did have a somewhat similar incident on Linux, which essentially caused my iGPU to render all content, and then have it be forwarded to my dedicated card
11:23:44 <DHess_US> It's sort of like the ACPI BIOS thing. Linux writes to the specification instead of some magic compatability test.
11:24:15 <Ampera> Linux nor the people responsible for developing it wrote anything, this is a proprietary nvidia-made driver
11:24:21 <Ampera> just like the Windows driver
11:24:31 <DHess_US> My Intel OR840 workstation board is like that. The ACPI works just fine in Windows but fucks BSD and Linux which require customization to work.
11:25:20 <Ampera> I have a Socket 7 board with a rather iffy ACPI implementation
11:25:23 <Ampera> that works when it wants to
11:25:28 <Ampera> which is never
11:27:07 <DHess_US> The OR840 system I have is a pre-release Intel beta system with secret processors so I don't really blame it.
11:27:17 <DHess_US> The processors are actually stamped "secret"
11:27:21 <Ampera> I've never heard of the OR840
11:27:28 <Ampera> what sort of system is it?
11:27:49 <DHess_US> Dual Slot 1 Pentium 3 with RAMBUS
11:27:52 <Ampera> Ah, Slot 1
11:27:56 <Ampera> also lolrambus
11:28:11 <DHess_US> I have an GX system also which is dual Slot 2 Pentium 3 Xeon.
11:28:14 <Ampera> Yeah that looks like the kinda board that something like BSD or Linux would cry at
11:28:27 <DHess_US> But that one was a production system with secret processors.
11:28:42 <DHess_US> That's actually this box.
11:29:00 <Ampera> fucking austnet
11:30:51 <DHess_US> https://i.ibb.co/bPt6L46/Agripa-Xeon.png
11:31:49 <Ampera> I have a Slot 1 P3-450 machine based on the 440BX (SE440BX-II board)
11:32:22 <DHess_US> I have two of those. One is my BSD router and the other is my old workstation which is a backup.
11:32:48 <Ampera> P3-450 router
11:32:51 <Ampera> oh man
11:32:59 <DHess_US> P2-450 router in my case
11:33:08 <Ampera> you don't even get SSE
11:33:11 <DHess_US> But with 384M of ECC RAM
11:33:17 <Ampera> and also you get a furnace
11:33:29 <DHess_US> Naw, with maximum power saving it isn't bad.
11:33:36 <DHess_US> processor just sits at idle.
11:33:55 <DHess_US> replaced the hard drive with a compact flash card.
11:34:09 <Ampera> I also have a Pentium Pro 200Mhz (256k) on a 440FX board
11:34:15 <Ampera> which is one of my favourite systems
11:34:36 <DHess_US> My previous router was a Pentium 60.
11:34:42 <Ampera> My BSD router has an AMD A6-5400K
11:35:03 <DHess_US> I have a K6-III board I would use for a router if the motherboard hadn't died.
11:36:36 <DHess_US> It has a clock and cmos memory chip with a built in lithium battery like a Dallas nvSRAM
11:36:46 <DHess_US> Battery died and no way to replace it.
11:36:57 <DHess_US> And it won't boot without it.
11:37:03 <DHess_US> Won't even post.
11:37:05 <Ampera> nice suicide battery
11:37:09 <DHess_US> Basically
11:38:49 <Ampera> Well I have 3 completely or mostly dead nForce 4 SLI 939 boards
11:39:04 <Ampera> I had a fourth one which I sent back to the person I bought it from
11:40:32 <DHess_US> Yea, all of my nForce boards died.
11:40:47 <DHess_US> I had three I think. My VIA board from that generation still works.
11:40:59 <Ampera> I have one EPoX board, which posts and boots, but has major stability issues
11:41:39 <Ampera> The machine I wanted it in now has an nForce 590 SLI board in it, which is more modern and powerful than I wanted
11:41:44 <DHess_US> I changd the capacitors on my workstation BX board. It has a slot 1 to PGA adapter and Pentium 3 1.2GHz in it.
11:41:52 <Ampera> even though it sort of fits with the age of the system a tad better (having dual 7800GTX 512s)
11:42:21 <DHess_US> Pretty good for a board that started out with a Celeron 300A overlocked to 450
11:42:33 <Ampera> mmm overclocked celerons
11:42:50 <Ampera> one of the reasons why Intel is a massive cunt of a company today
11:46:51 <DHess_US> I've been using AMD since the P4 which was my last Intel system.
11:49:19 <DHess_US> I still have my Intel P4 system. It my by the oldest box I have which will support Windows 10 so I may dust it off just for that as a spare system.
12:03:05 <DogWomble> ok after a bit of a clean and a few tweaks, i appear too have somewhat fixed up my bike's front dereilleur
12:04:27 <DogWomble> i think the fact that it was partially covered in crud and the cable adjustment being slightly out explains why i was having trouble with gear shifting this morning
12:05:38 <DHess_US> I've never seen crud matter but adjustment is critical.
12:06:57 <DogWomble> well the problem is i do some off road riding, and where i live it's an utter dustbowl, so the gears and chain tend to get coated in the stuff
12:07:24 <DogWomble> if i forget to clean it for a while, that's when i start getting issues like this :)
12:08:02 <DogWomble> the dirt builds up, and then things don't work :)
12:10:18 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Sydney almost feels like a modern city now #Metro https://t.co/Znj4fZ3Je3
12:16:15 <DHess_US> I never had such a problem biking off-road.
12:16:39 <DHess_US> I guess I did regularly clean and lubricate the chain though.
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12:17:46 <Guest|35823> hi
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12:28:23 <DogWomble> hi ... and bye?
12:54:36 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @TheColinputer: @eevblog Batteryies in my BM235 finally starting to get low. Today while working out which battery in a UPS string was t…
13:50:02 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Insane lines at the castle hill #Metro https://t.co/F46eAFXidO
14:45:22 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: The #Metro line grows... https://t.co/U0Sgbo7WIl
15:37:42 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: First day of the #sydneymetro and it's already had a breakdown, and the doors don't align properly with the gates. Classic. Why would the gates not align? Surely that would have been sorted in testing long ago. Does it have to do with the large load of passengers now? https://t.co/P5KqSxNoSl
15:43:01 * Halcyon prods everyone in the channel
15:51:01 * Ampera beeps at Halcyon
15:51:13 * Halcyon honks Ampera's boobies
15:51:21 <Ampera> can't honk what doesn't exist
15:52:00 <Ampera> Lol, Theresa may broke down crying at the speech announcing her resignation.
15:52:36 <Halcyon> OK ?
15:52:39 <Halcyon> I didn
15:52:44 <Halcyon> 't even know she resigned
15:53:03 <Ampera> Resigned as party lead effective June, as PM effective July, when they can replace her
15:53:11 <Halcyon> There you go
15:53:15 <Ampera> All I can say is HAH
15:53:29 <Halcyon> Can't say I've followed international politics much
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15:54:46 <T3sl4> hahahahahaha https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/bsxsz2/women_of_reddit_what_are_some_nsfw_hacks_every/eos9mwk?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x
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15:55:24 <Halcyon> Oh WOW
15:55:49 <Halcyon> Girls are gross
15:56:01 <Ampera> reddit is down for me
15:56:02 <Ampera> naturally
15:56:15 <Halcyon> One user says: "You can loosen a stubborn poop by sticking your fingers into your vagina and massaging towards the rear."
15:56:29 <Ampera> I've done that, except with the asshole
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15:56:35 <Halcyon> ROFL!
15:56:41 <Halcyon> Way, WAY too much information Ampera
15:56:44 <DogWomble> certainly an interesting mental image
15:57:29 <Halcyon> I can honestly say I've never done that
15:57:33 <Halcyon> Nor do I intend to
15:57:39 * Ampera gets a dinner fork
15:59:51 <Halcyon> Hahaha
15:59:53 <Halcyon> Gross
16:00:09 <DogWomble> why stop at a dinner fork? lift your game and go for a chainsaw
16:00:29 <Ampera> DogWomble, this is trying to shit, not trying to have sex
16:00:49 <Halcyon> Not sure about you Ampera, but I have no difficulties in pooping
16:01:04 <Ampera> neither do I, I just like getting my hands dirty
16:01:09 <Halcyon> ROFL
16:01:19 <Halcyon> You just won the channel
16:01:56 <DogWomble> so when you poop, you like to tinker with your sphincter with a fork to make it a thoroughly messy affair?
16:01:59 <Ampera> wasn't exactly a challenge
16:02:16 <Ampera> DogWomble, I'm a person who likes to take matters into my own hands.
16:02:21 <Ampera> and I've never used a dinner fork
16:02:40 <DogWomble> well i must admit, i only said that because i wanted to use the phrase "tinker with your sphincter"
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16:03:31 <Ampera> Portable monitors look neat
16:03:40 <Ampera> if I wasn't broke I'd get one for my Surface Pro
16:04:20 <Ampera> I'd actually like to get 2-3, but I'd settle for one.
16:05:03 <DogWomble> i should actually get around to setting up this TV
16:05:44 <DogWomble> its intended purpose is to use as a third monitor for those times when i am watching something and want to still utilise my dual monitors
16:06:13 <Ampera> four monitors or gtfo
16:06:45 <DogWomble> i could possibly do that at some point, my other TV is kinda being reserved for if i ever finish off some more of my vintage PC projects
16:07:31 <Ampera> i also have a TV I intend to use as a monitor, but I intend to replace one of my monitors with it.
16:07:54 <Ampera> heck I can just do that now, I need a DVI -> HDMI cable, but I can just nick one off another box.
16:07:55 <DogWomble> yeah, well at home at least the only time i really feel like i *need* more than two is when i'm watching soemthing
16:08:36 <Ampera> I use four monitors for these purposes (unless I'm coding) HexChat WebBrowser2 WebBrowser1/Task Discord
16:08:48 <DogWomble> the TV is only a 720p unit, but given it's likely to be a bit further away that's probably not going to be as much of an issue
16:09:24 <Ampera> I'm hoping this TV is 1080p, I actually don't know.
16:09:57 <DogWomble> well this one was one i technically "won" rather than bought, so technically i didn't pay for it, so i can't really complain that it's only 720p
16:13:04 <Ampera> My dad found this TV at the side of the road
16:32:19 <steve30> hi Halcyon
16:32:23 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
16:33:06 <steve30> I've been out in the rain
16:33:11 <Halcyon> Hey
16:33:15 <Halcyon> Are you all moist Steve?
16:33:18 <steve30> yup
16:33:27 <Halcyon> Let me get you out of those clothes ;-)
16:33:55 <Ampera> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542853460157136896/581671704502337576/53f9eb60ed5a8f63fd7b431cfd05b1bc.png
16:34:16 <Halcyon> Random
16:34:36 <Ampera> you talkin mad shit for someone in crusading distance
16:38:00 <T3sl4> Ampera, https://i.imgur.com/AYYbeJT.gif
16:38:42 <Ampera> I'm not sure how to respond to that one T3sl4
16:40:26 <T3sl4> i guess you don't know as much about warhammer as your png implied
16:40:53 <T3sl4> granted, i hardly know anything either, but the gif seems to be in the context of heresey
16:40:58 <T3sl4> so now you know :P
17:01:57 * steve30 hugs T3sl4
17:02:09 * T3sl4 serves steve30 a cup of hot chocolate
17:14:48 <DogWomble> hot chocolate you say?
17:15:37 <T3sl4> well, warm chocolate now
17:24:29 <steve30> I'm rather looking forward to dinner
17:25:02 <T3sl4> planned?
17:27:39 <steve30> I'm having pork stir fry stuff from my local butchers. Its nice :)
17:28:04 <T3sl4> ah
17:28:23 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSvFpBOe8eY
18:11:40 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Sagan got a front window seat at sunset on the #SydneyMetro https://t.co/aEZDspkXJ8
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18:13:59 <steve30> https://www.flickr.com/photos/36651585@N04/47934535543/in/dateposted-public/
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18:20:44 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Riding the #SydneyMetro at sunset @SydneyMetro https://t.co/6n2gexsLkF
18:28:42 <steve30> Can't remember if I've shown this before, but I just uploaded it to FLickr
18:28:44 <steve30> https://www.flickr.com/photos/36651585@N04/47934624041/in/dateposted-public/
18:29:07 <Halcyon> Dammit, I was hoping for another photo of you in a skimpy outfit
18:34:10 <steve30> Nah, just a Homer.
18:35:09 <Halcyon> :P
18:44:53 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: First pic of the new @tektronix 4 Series MSO https://t.co/GH68xKUOps
19:10:02 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: And the new @tektronix 4 Series MSO in all it's glory before release. Guess I win The Internet #URLhack https://t.co/SXUEQUY8YV
19:14:04 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @doug_ellison: Ok. Starlink's kind of blown up over the past 48 hours. Let's get some things straight. Despite their creator insisting…
19:18:05 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: Wow, so the @SpaceX #Starlink satellites will be visible to the naked eye and may disrupt astronomers, not to mention general sky watchers? And it's set to get worse? #oops
19:37:13 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @blenderbuch: @doug_ellison @eevblog Berlin Germany. High LP. Still quite bright little Beasts. 1s@5000iso. Also visible to naked eye. Y…
19:40:14 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @doug_ellison: tldr - If you love the night sky, go and see it now before it's too late. Elon just opened Pandora's box, and it's goin…
20:27:34 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: And the new @tektronix MDO Series 3 https://t.co/atmQPLQ0bN
21:30:07 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/LWkbFMk.jpg
22:02:48 <DHess_US> https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-SkkZ5gtvTAk/WYZK2_4cq9I/AAAAAAAAibA/vrdF9_7QFNcVGX6jeR4ga4cQ0JOKyKmlwCLcBGAs/s400/constitution.jpg
23:05:40 Quit: Bluenote ([email protected]) EOF from client
23:25:45 <EEVBlog1> New EEVBlog Tweet: First #SydneyMetro public POV ride, at sunset! @SydneyMetro https://t.co/USQGME8049
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23:42:33 <iw2jww> Anybody home?
23:45:22 <coppice_> nope