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50:05 <ErosThanatos> Hello party people
51:31 <CWheezy> party rock
52:32 <ErosThanatos> What's crackalackin'?
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44:08 <Steven> yo, what it is....
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04:53 <Avatar> yo
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10:16 <Yuugi> Hi
11:25 <Kysune> Welcome my fellow minions!
11:41 <Avatar> I think you will be my minion
11:46 <Avatar> if I'm feeling generous
11:46 <Kysune> How are you today Avatar?
11:54 <Avatar> I'm not sure if I am feeling generous
11:55 <Avatar> we'll see
13:54 <Brunius|M-> Sup
14:33 <Avatar> just choosing minions
14:54 <Avatar> 'choosing' is a bit beneath me
14:57 <Avatar> I meant 'selecting'
15:03 <Avatar> just selecting minions
16:00 <Kysune> So is this one of the main chats for getting in pickup pathfinder games?
16:14 <Avatar> y4eah
16:18 <Avatar> it is the main chat
16:49 <Avatar> keep one eye on steven, he's the most likely to run a pickup game
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17:19 <Kysune> i think i settled on a character build
17:26 <EricMcG> goya, are you here?
18:20 <CuteChineseEyes> ah thank you
18:25 <CuteChineseEyes> just what i need
18:27 <Kysune> you're welcome
18:32 <CuteChineseEyes> a bit of head banging
18:35 <CuteChineseEyes> d n ddddddddddddddddddddd
18:39 <CuteChineseEyes> dynamite
18:44 <CuteChineseEyes> d n dddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
18:49 <CuteChineseEyes> this is my therapy
18:53 <CuteChineseEyes> d n ddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd
20:50 <Yuugi> Hi EricMcG 
26:38 <Steven> hey guys, 
27:44 <Kysune> hey hey
32:03 <Steven> i tried sleepin, i failed.
32:12 <Avatar> forget sleeping
32:23 <Avatar> less sleep, more PFS, that's what I always say
32:37 <Steven> i've got plenty of pfs in the next couple of days.
32:52 <Avatar> not enough clearly
33:00 <Steven> right around 40hrs...
33:17 <Kysune> so most people play just PFS or run their own world campaign?
33:29 <Kysune> i guess you're talking about Gencon? which everyone is talking about?
35:01 <Avatar> he is talking about gencon
35:04 <Avatar> I am talking in general
35:20 <Avatar> half of us aren't anywhere near gencon
35:45 <Kysune> i have no idea where it's at and i'm only guessing it's like 3 days of just nonstop pathfinder games
36:37 <Avatar> yep
43:35 <Kysune> what programs are mainly used for online pathfinder play?  I have a few downloaded.
44:56 <Avatar> CA in here, or roll20
45:03 <Avatar> maptool is dying a slow painful death
45:23 <Avatar> CA is simple and roll20 does everything maptool does better
56:16 <Steven> im back.
02:04 <EricMcG> hey
02:15 <EricMcG> going to try a game at some point?
21:39 <Yuugi> Maybe.
26:37 <Steven> bored.
30:23 <Avatar> :o)
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34:08 <Avatar> YOU'RE bored
34:20 <Steven> lil bit.
35:02 <Avatar> yeah I thought so
35:53 <Steven> wonder what kind of cool boons they will have at gen con for the playes.
38:12 <Brunius_> Avatar
38:18 <Brunius_> How do I setup the pins on an Arduino
38:22 <Brunius_> I don't remember D:
39:34 <Steven> lookin for any particular boons avatar, i might be able to pick one up.
39:52 <Avatar> the pins on a what?
40:19 <Brunius_> an Arduino
40:33 <Brunius_> ugh I really have to get the wiring diagram on this sorted out
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47:08 <Kysune> Why exactly is maptool dying out?
47:32 <Avatar> what is that
47:36 <Steven> because rolll20 does things better.
48:02 <Kysune> i see.  haven't used any of them yet but looking forward to playing some pathfinder online somewhere.
50:53 <Brunius_> robots!
50:56 <Brunius_> playing soccer!
54:02 <Steven> well stick around in here and you can probably find a game to play in
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06:31 <Yuugi> nyaa
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18:02 <Avatar> don't think that's supposed to make sense to me
18:24 <Brunius_> I'm making a robot to play a truncated version of soccer
18:35 <Brunius_> I need to get the electrical wiring and programming sorted out ideally by monday
18:57 <Avatar> so why you asking me about robots
19:05 <Brunius_> because you might know
19:15 <Avatar> fraid not
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20:10 <Kysune> I'll be back in a couple days.  I figure Gencon will be occupying most people and I need to create my character still.  Take care.
20:15 <Brunius> wait
20:35 <Steven> odd he would assume that you australians would be attending gencon.
20:47 <Brunius> yeah that's what I was going to say
20:51 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sun 18th 10.30am (tier 7-11,Mekkis) || WotW: Sat 24th 1.30pm || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
20:51 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Aug 13 22:48:42 2013
20:51 <***> Buffer Playback...
20:51 <***> Playback Complete.
21:11 <Brunius> Having an american chilling in here at what, 4am? 5am? could be confusing though
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21:21 <Steven> word.
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21:28 <Steven> its only 2am for me.
21:39 <Brunius> ah, it's 5am on the other coast
21:39 <Ultio> 4:20 brah
21:44 <Steven> wish i could sleep but... excitement and nervious, i hate flying.
22:31 <Avatar> where is gencon
23:35 <Steven> Indianapolis 
23:47 <Steven> just broke my thumbdrive.... just a bit pissed
23:59 <Avatar> how far is that from washington
24:00 <Brunius_> solder it back together
24:22 <Steven> i dont think thats an option.
25:48 <Steven> boout.... 3250km i think
26:38 <Avatar> do you reckon FrankL has 3 characters, or one level 9 character
27:05 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/schedule.php5?id=150
27:10 <Avatar> set up the pins on it
27:18 <Avatar> ask brunius how to do it
27:32 <Brunius_> I know how to do it for an arduino
27:34 <Steven> no its in pieces... several of them.
27:41 <Brunius> pinMode (1, OUTPUT)
27:45 <Brunius> ;
31:48 <Steven> there computer is all ready for gencon.
32:02 <Steven> well the small one im taking that is... im leaving my full lap top at home.
33:37 <Mekkis> You're one of THOSE guys
34:32 <Steven> yup, i'm the guy who likes being able to open multiple pdfs
34:51 <Steven> like the beastiary, the scenario, and the core rule book.
35:48 <Brunius> sup Kysune
36:06 <Kysune> just setting things up to eventually play a pathfinder online game
36:13 <Steven> sup
37:57 <Mekkis> -what do you want to know about tobots, Brunius?
38:00 <Mekkis> robots even
38:18 <Mekkis> GPIO?
39:58 <Steven> cant wait till tomorrow.... gencon!
44:50 <Avatar> what's the book called? pathfinder society primer?
45:12 <Steven> yup
45:18 <Avatar> is it out yet
45:27 <Steven> 12.99 hardcopy 9.99 pdf methinks
47:37 <Steven> the only thing i dont understand is why there is a particular item in the book
48:53 <Steven> pale orange rhomboid
52:07 <Darkkapow> running rivalry's end again tomorrow ^_^
52:41 <Darkkapow> steven with the boon for that as a gm can you get it multiple times but on different characters who don't have it or the way of the kirin
52:53 <Steven> forum...
53:03 <Darkkapow> fine
53:08 <Darkkapow> I'll go look it up myself
53:29 <Steven> OH MY GOD! 
53:59 <Steven> taking the initiative... you rock kapow
55:29 <Steven> This stone absorbs your soul as the magic jar spell immediately prior to your death.  You cant transfer your soul from the ioun stone receptacle to another creatures body, and are, for all intents and purposes, dead.
56:27 <Steven> while your soul is in the ioun stone, you can sense any life forces within 120feet as though you were placed in a magic jar.
56:54 <Steven> at any point within 12 hours of your soul's transfer into the pale orange rhombus ioun stone, you can return to your body as long as it is within 120feet of the ioun stone.
57:49 <Steven> upon returning to your body, you are unconcious and dying with a number of negative hit points equal to your constitution score mnus 1.  if you fial to stabilze and arent healed after 1 turn, you die and your soul is not asorbed by the ioun stone.  Your soul can be absorbed into a pale orange rhombus ioun stone only once per 24hr period
58:19 <CWheezy> lol immune to death
00:01 <Steven> takes 72 fame.
00:10 <Steven> to be able to purchase one of them/
01:23 <Steven> so... if you havent failed a faction mission ever or done a module you can get one @ level 12.... why this was placed in the PFS primer is pretty bad.
01:33 <Mekkis> once for GM, once for playing
01:35 <Mekkis> that's it
01:43 <CWheezy> no better than the ready an acton for  a +2 to hit
02:14 <Steven> no worse then readying a vital strike i suppose.
04:01 <Steven> aparantly, i've got to go help my step brother shop for food....
04:06 <CWheezy> but you can only move five feet
04:09 <CWheezy> so it is way worse
04:26 <Steven> because the shit bag doesnt know what to buy.... how the fuck is this kid getting into college?
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05:43 <CWheezy> the other feat was like
05:49 <CWheezy> sorcers no longer have a restricted spell list lol
06:22 <Mekkis> eating instant noodles?
06:30 <Mekkis> getting a loan?
06:56 <Steven> hell if i know... how do you not know how to shop for groceries?
07:08 <Mekkis> it requires planning ahead
10:55 <Darkkapow> right so i could actually once XP
11:03 <Darkkapow> If i was to choose rivalry's end to be my scenario for the year
11:06 <Darkkapow> because i have 1 gm star
14:19 <Mekkis> Darkkapow, you can do that - from the 15th
14:26 <Mekkis> you need to apply the credit on the 14th
15:46 <Mekkis> in other news, who's up for Rivalry's end this sat?
18:39 <Steven> think im going to show him to the mac and cheese, chili, and hot pockets.... what else do kids eat these days?
18:55 <Steven> oh! ramen.
20:49 <Steven> kid cant cook... dunno what else to get him.
21:01 <Steven> some hot dogs?
21:03 <Darkkapow> what if the session runs until 12:01am
21:07 <Darkkapow> on the 15th form the 14th
22:07 <Mekkis> Steven, don't do that
22:28 <Mekkis> show him to the slow-cook meats, the vegetables, and get him to do it properly
23:01 <Darkkapow> scrambled eggs and bacon
23:13 <Steven> he doesnt like eggs.
23:21 <Darkkapow> what a jerk
23:29 <Steven> he also doesnt like vegetables.
23:30 <Darkkapow> I am about to go get subway
23:40 <Darkkapow> kid has to eat potato
23:49 <Steven> HATES potatos.
23:53 <Darkkapow> what
23:57 <Steven> yeah....
24:13 <Steven> this is why im thinking mac and cheese, chili, hot dogs, ramen...
24:25 <Steven> 4 days and i'll be back in town and he can just eat at my house.
24:39 <Steven> and then i get to force him to eat vegetables
24:49 <Darkkapow> kid needs to learn to suck shit the fuck up and each vegetables
25:09 <Darkkapow> roast potato and pumkin with like spinach and feta salad with the pumpkin in it
25:12 <Brunius> today I'm only getting paired up to tier 6 tanks
25:20 <Darkkapow> and then go like some corn and X meat
25:28 <Darkkapow> chicken, steak, pork whatever
25:30 <Darkkapow> and a sauce
25:31 <Steven> i think he likes spam.
25:34 <Darkkapow> dinner done
25:38 <Darkkapow> fried rice?
25:44 <Steven> cant cook.
25:50 <Mekkis> you can't?
25:51 <Steven> does not know how to make ANYTHING
25:59 <Darkkapow> sorry but anyone over the age of 15 should know how to cook
26:03 <Mekkis> then you'd better teach him
26:04 <Darkkapow> if not something is wrong
26:09 <Mekkis> since noone else has
26:14 <Darkkapow> exactly
26:20 <Darkkapow> do the responsible thing that an adult would do
26:31 <Darkkapow> I have a 20 yo who just moved in with me who doesn't know how to cook, I'm teaching her
26:46 <Steven> hope you're gettin somethin out of it... heh heh
26:58 <Darkkapow> whether i am or not is my business.
27:15 <Darkkapow> yup
27:16 <Steven> like good food...
27:28 <Steven> OH SNAP! you thought i was bein a perv... i wasnt.
27:29 <Darkkapow> my poor t4 was in t8's today
27:35 <Darkkapow> i cried
27:54 <Darkkapow> I am getting good food cause It's my food we're learning to cook
27:57 <Steven> yeah once i get back from gencon i think im just gonna have him come over here and cook with me.
28:13 <Steven> but he can have shitty food while im gone.
28:28 <Steven> simple stuff.
29:02 <Brunius> I seem to be facing 3-6 today
29:05 <Brunius> haven't seen a seven
29:13 <Brunius> in my four
29:20 <Brunius> (s)
29:31 <Darkkapow> mekkis is off playing with his flat mate and uni buddies in a platoon
29:35 <Darkkapow> that has no room
29:42 <Darkkapow> so i'm playing anno 2070
29:47 <Steven> i was playin around on d2 earlier
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30:47 <Steven> HA HA! frozen pizza's
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31:12 <Steven> pizzas even
31:29 <Mekkis> damn
31:33 <Mekkis> I didn't get uptiered
33:27 <Mekkis> 5 second shell travel time
33:43 <Steven> there we go. grocery list made up.... or rather shit food list made.
35:16 <Mekkis> Brunius, Darkkapow want to blow up some tanks
35:42 <Mekkis> ?
36:32 <Brunius> sure
37:27 <Mekkis> invite sent
41:51 <Darkkapow> blizzard has gone to shit :/
42:09 <Darkkapow> in the last 5 years the only thing they have done right is starcraft
42:13 <Darkkapow> everything wow went to shit
42:18 <Darkkapow> everything diablo went to shit
42:30 <Darkkapow> and for the rumours and what we've heard of project titan
42:47 <Darkkapow> it better be something good or i think in the next 5 years they are going to come into some trouble
43:10 <Steven> i said d2, not d3
48:10 <Steven> goin to sleep see ya later peeps
48:35 <Darkkapow> i know you did
48:39 <Darkkapow> nvm
52:31 <Brunius> our commander is-bail out, this vehicle has had it
00:53 <Darkkapow> family round so i doubt i'll get to join in tonight
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20:07 <Kysune> Anyone have experience playing Monks in pathfinder?
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21:05 <Avatar> nop
21:12 <Avatar> never played a monk, never will!
21:33 <CWheezy> I have experience playing an archer
21:34 <Kysune> planning on playing one for the flavor, despite their poor setup.
21:44 <CWheezy> zen archer is a good archetype because it removes a monk issue
22:10 <Kysune> I'm trying to decide between Mast of Many Styles and Tetori for online play and local PFS
22:17 <Kysune> Master*
22:41 <Avatar> that doesn't sound like you're playing for the flavour
23:12 <CWheezy> moms sucks as a main thing to do
23:26 <Avatar> how long does gencon go for?
24:34 <Avatar> neither of you know?
24:47 <Kysune> well, playing a bare handed character for the flavour.  Just not sure how decent either would be in a PFS setting.
25:02 <CWheezy> moms is good for some classes to dip into
25:04 <Kysune> I'm pretty much new to Pathfinder as a whole, as I don't even really know anything about Gencon.
25:07 <CWheezy> tetori is ok
25:10 <CWheezy> because grappling is ok
25:22 <CWheezy> it sort of ends before things become amazingly hard to grapple which is nice
25:35 <Avatar> they run games nonstop at cons
25:49 <Avatar> lots of tables
26:10 <Avatar> I like playing online but you'll want to experience a con during your playtime
26:11 <Yiroep> Avatar: "that doesn't sound like you're playing for the flavour"
26:12 <Yiroep> and?
26:21 <Avatar> and what
26:23 <Yiroep> Yes, cons are super fun.
26:51 <Kysune> pretty easy to pickup some good feats to break stuff?  I'd be interested in breaking jaws, arms, and etc to essentially cripple and take people out of the fight instead of just outright killing people in every session.
26:53 <Yiroep> Oh, if you have nothing to add to it, then fine.
27:16 <Yiroep> I was just wondering. Everyone else who says that seems to have some hatred behind it.
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27:29 <Avatar> I can make up some hatred if you like
27:34 <Kysune> lol it's ok.
27:35 <Avatar> GRRR !
27:37 <Yiroep> Naw. If none exists it's fine. :)
27:49 <Avatar> THE HATE CONSUMES ME
27:54 <Avatar> ADD FLAVOURING
27:59 <Kysune> Someone get him a Gatorade!
28:35 <Yuugi> Hey Avatar 
28:35 <Kysune> All that hatred is going to leave you dehydrated.
28:41 <Kysune> :)
29:23 <CWheezy> nothing really to break things
29:37 <Mekkis> Darkkapow, Brunius 
29:41 <Yuugi> Hi CWheezy 
29:42 <Mekkis> you good to go now?
29:42 <Yiroep> Lolz.
29:51 <Brunius> haha I just logged off
29:54 <Brunius> yeah I'll jump back in
29:58 <Kysune> I guess I will build Tetori, is there any multiclassing that makes sense?  I'm thinking just full Tetori but may multiclass if it's reasonable.
30:13 <Brunius> 2x4, 2x3, 1x2, 1x1
30:22 <Brunius> Halfway to getting a five
30:26 <CWheezy> probably don't multiclass
30:28 <Kysune> Like Tetori/Oracle or Tetori/Cleric or something else.....Tetori/Wizard would not be reasonable.
30:32 <Mekkis> cool
30:36 <Mekkis> I'm working on my M37
30:48 <CWheezy> if anything multiclass into barbarian
30:54 <Yiroep> Inescapable Grasp is such a cool ability.
30:55 <Brunius> you needed the radio, right?
31:04 <Yiroep> And pretty much shuts down divine casters.
31:18 <Mekkis> turns out the tier 10 radio for the Priest isn't compatible with the tier 10 radio for the hellcat :(
31:21 <Kysune> that seems counter opposite though and I'm a bit intimidated by keeping track of rage from Barbarians.
31:35 <Kysune> The calm and collective monk that loses his temper all the time! lol
32:10 <CWheezy> not all monks stay calm
32:18 <Kysune> ah yeah, saw that tetori gets that at 9
32:50 <Kysune> yeah, i was thinking 1 or 2 levels of oracle would be interesting if it would fit.  As they're both mysterious and a curse would be interesting
33:21 <Kysune> but then again I guess I could just go off the vow chart to add more flavour
33:36 <CWheezy> well oracle doesn't really help you at all
33:59 <Yuugi> What's all this talk about?
34:07 <Kysune> would battle be good? once per a day i could move my speed then conduct a full round action to grapple or something?
34:20 <Kysune> i'm pretty new lol.
34:21 <CWheezy> you still have to get a curse
35:21 <Yuugi> If you're new I suggest sticking to Core Rules.
36:02 <CWheezy> also the monk needs a lot of stats
36:04 <Kysune> I've played some 3.5 games and such but just pretty new to Pathfinder as a whole.  I've played 2 games so far.
36:09 <Avatar> if you understand what's going on, going outside of core is fine
36:11 <Yiroep> Oracle of lore could be cool.
36:13 <CWheezy> like charisma
36:25 <Yiroep> Flavorful for a monk, and use cha for AC instead of dex. Therefore you can dump dex.
36:37 <Yiroep> CMD will be kind of bad, though.
36:40 <Avatar> 3.5 and pathfinder are basically the same, the experience completely carries over
36:49 <CWheezy> also your bab wont scale properly
36:59 <Yuugi> Well, I saw lots of problems with players in 3.5 too
37:08 <Kysune> hmm i could grab lame curse to simulate the bad dex.
37:15 <Darkkapow> I am in 5
37:20 <Yuugi> But, yeah, Kysune if you want to play an Oracle I have a few roleplaying tips for ya.
37:26 <Darkkapow> so play one without me
37:40 <Brunius> won't make a difference
37:49 <Brunius> we just got paired up to 7
37:55 <Yiroep> Meh.
38:01 <Kysune> I like characters that can move around a good deal and/or can control the battlefield.  I figured monk can move around a bit and lock someone down.
38:05 <Yiroep> Monk/Oracle gets better if you add Paladin and Champion of Irori.
38:24 <CWheezy> oh if you want to control the battlefield then play a wizard
38:36 <Kysune> Feel free to give tips.  I have a level 1 oracle built so far but not sure if I will play him or wait a little.
38:50 <Yiroep> Monks can do martial control. But yeah, a wizard can do so much control at higher levels.
38:54 <Kysune> Where's CoI from?
39:10 <Yiroep> I don't remember.
39:14 <Kysune> well most of my games will probably only be from lvl 1-11
39:28 <Yiroep> Paths of Prestige.
39:31 <Kysune> since the people local only play pfs
39:38 <Yuugi> The biggest misplaying of Oracles I've seen is that many people play them like mystical Clerics. Which they are not really.
40:14 <Kysune> They are more like confused divine casters looking for answers right?
40:20 <Yiroep> My opinion of oracles (since I have 6 of them...): They are specialized clerics. They will not be good at lots of things like a cleric, but they are much more focused.
40:43 <CWheezy> Oracles are better healers and can be better fighting
40:48 <Darkkapow> no brun
40:54 <Darkkapow> as in i will be ready in 5 minutes
40:56 <Yiroep> But they typically won't be *both*
41:00 <Brunius> ah
41:06 <CWheezy> if they choose to specialize
41:12 <Kysune> yeah, i looked over the revelations a good deal.
41:13 <CWheezy> cleric healing isn't that great
41:19 <Yuugi> They are not anything like Clerics. I actually view them more like Paladins in that they don't belong to any deity or church.
41:30 <Yuugi> Or maybe Monks would be a better comparison.
41:40 <CWheezy> yeah paladins don't follow a di- wait wtf are you saying
41:44 <Yiroep> I'm talking mechanics wise. Flavorwise I love Oracles.
41:45 <Kysune> lol
41:47 <Yiroep> I have an atheist Oracle. :p
41:56 <CWheezy> oracles don't choose their power
41:58 <Yuugi> CWheezy: Paladins, in my opinion, don't follow deities.
41:59 <CWheezy> that is about it
42:18 <Yiroep> Yup. My wolfscarred/deaf oracle curses the gods for what they did to him.
42:24 <Yiroep> But he can't change it.
42:27 <CWheezy> ok so your opinion on the fact that paladins are holy warriors who follow deities is that they don't follow deities
42:42 <Kysune> the oracle i built was a gnome nature oracle with haunted curse and the trait to boost language based spells by 1dc to boost my Command spell
42:51 <Yuugi> Uh, no CWheezy 
42:55 <CWheezy> sure, that's fine
43:02 <Yuugi> My opinion on Paladins as holy warriors are that they are holy warriors
43:02 <Kysune> that's about as far as i got with him, mostly just written out and has a wolf pet.
43:06 <Yuugi> I never said anything about deities.
43:44 <Darkkapow> invite me for next
43:49 <Yuugi> In fact, if you want to play a Paladin with a deity just play an Inquisitor, as that's probably why Paizo made that class.
44:03 <Yiroep> Be aware, in PFS, a paladin MUST have a diety.
44:05 <Yuugi> For people who wanted to play Paladins as if they were Clerics or something.
44:06 <CWheezy> inquisitors are not even close to paladins at all?
44:19 <CWheezy> they are like the opposite side of the spectrum
44:27 <Yuugi> Yiroep: That's one of the reasons I dislike PFS.
44:51 <CWheezy> oracles are just the sorceror for the divine casters
45:15 <Kysune> I think they both can play a role within a religious order.  I see Paladins as the noble protector and the Inquisitor as the one bringing holy justice and pain at the enemies door.  Essentially looking for enemies, whereas the Paladin just confronts evil if it arises against them.
45:18 <Yiroep> Revelations are much more defining than bloodlines, though.
45:20 <Kysune> I could be wrong though.
45:41 <Yiroep> Mysteries*
46:46 <Kysune> I have to say I did think the Oracle was a step above the cleric, the selection isn't as big but the ability to pull any spell out of your hat at any time is so versalite.  Especially with the divine spell list having some really good but situational spells.
47:20 <Yuugi> Kysune: The major difference is that Inquisitors must be part of a deity's church, whereas a Paladin doesn't have that requirement (at least the way I see it).
48:00 <Yiroep> My Dark Tapestry oracle is a shapeshift, my Life oracle is a healer, my Heavens oracle is a controller, my Winter oracle is also a controller, my Juju oracle (home game, since it's not PFS legal) is a necromancer.
48:24 <Yiroep> Don't underestimate cleric. It's a good class. Most people are actually of the opinion that oracle is not that great.
48:32 <CWheezy> actually inquisitors don't have to be part of a church, unlike paladins
48:33 <Kysune> So how are you using the Heave and Winter oracle as a controller?
48:55 <CWheezy> cleric is better because their spells scale faster also they get to prep
49:01 <Yuugi> CWheezy: What crap are you reading?
49:05 <Kysune> Yeah I've played clerics in 3.5 a bit, they're pretty good if you don't get in the mindset of "I have to heal" every fight.
49:43 <Yiroep> Winter oracle uses sound burst and his dual-cursed misfortune to chance probability (although people hate that ability). My heavens oracle....uses color spray....like all heavens oracles.
49:46 <Kysune> They get to Prep? how?
49:50 <Yuugi> You're just saying the complete opposite of what I am.
50:13 <Kysune> that's the one gimmick Revelation that boosts color spray to like dc9000 isn't it?
50:27 <Yiroep> Oh yeah, winter oracle also uses meta rod of cold with burning hands (blackened curse) to slow enemies with his freezing spells revelation.
50:35 <Yiroep> It just increases the HD that it can affect.
50:45 <CWheezy> "crap"
50:46 <Yiroep> Or at least affect more better.
50:48 <Kysune> yeah, i thought that was a bit overpowered.
50:57 <Yuugi> A cleric's alignment must be within one step of her deity's, along either the law/chaos axis or the good/evil axis.
50:58 <Yuugi> An inquisitor's alignment must be within one step of her deity's, along either the law/chaos axis or the good/evil axis.
51:00 <Yuugi> A paladin's alignment must be lawful good.
51:05 <Yuugi> The inquisitor is far more like the Cleric
51:11 <Yuugi> The paladin is obviously different.
51:25 <Kysune> makes a lvl 1 spell insanely useful till like level 13 or so at least.  Which you'd have like 6-8 uses of every day.
51:26 <CWheezy> I dunno how the inquisitor has to be part of a church
51:34 <CWheezy> or how that rufutes my claim
51:41 <Yuugi> The rules say the Inquisitor MUST HAVE a patron deity.
51:49 <Yuugi> And that they MUST be within it's alignment.
51:58 <Yiroep> That heavens oracle is actually a sorcerer too, with the bloodline that lets him affect undead, so he can still use color spray to blind them....I don't really like the character, though.
52:02 <Yuugi> Paladins, in the rules, don't have this restriction.
52:04 <Yiroep> He either ends the battle or does nothing at all.
52:04 <Yuugi> They can be churchless
52:10 <CWheezy> yuugi
52:15 <Yuugi> Inquisitors must follow a church of their deity.
52:21 <Yuugi> So
52:23 <CWheezy> it is important to note that church and deity are different things, thanks
52:25 <Mekkis> ok
52:29 <Yuugi> Not really.
52:32 <Yuugi> Not in PF
52:34 <Kysune> yeah i could see that.
52:35 <Yuugi> Maybe in real world.
52:42 <CWheezy> yes in pf, lol
52:46 <Yuugi> Er, nope.
53:00 <Yuugi> If you're a Divine Caster of a deity you're pretty much welcome in any of their buildings
53:06 <CWheezy> ok????
53:10 <CWheezy> so are most commoners
53:10 <Yuugi> THey'll probably give you discounts, because you're a MEMBER OF THEIR CHURCH
53:16 <Yiroep> *cough* Sepratist archetype.
53:17 <Yuugi> Yes.
53:56 <Yuugi> CWheezy: I gave you my proof, so now I'll ask for yours.
54:06 <CWheezy> proof of what
54:13 <Yuugi> Your opinion.
54:13 <CWheezy> inquisitors are different from commoners?
54:19 * Yuugi shrugs.
54:23 <Yuugi> I think you're just trolling me now.
54:25 <Yuugi> Oh well
54:31 <Yuugi> Back to what I was doing.
54:32 <CWheezy> oh I disagree so I am trolling, great
55:00 <Yiroep> Anyone here have a bomb specialized alchemist? I want to make another character and assessing whether that would be fun or not.
55:05 <CWheezy> a church is an organization
55:15 <CWheezy> inquisitors are empowered to work in ways beyond the organization
55:33 <Yuugi> Yiroep: One of my playgroup made a bomber alchemist. It was devastating for the GM.
55:42 <CWheezy> not all inquisitors have to belong to a church
55:48 <CWheezy> neither do they have to worship a god, actually
55:54 <Yuugi> CWheezy: Show me this in the rules.
56:00 <Yiroep> I would probably go mindchemist/internal alchemist. I think it would just be fun. I know they make SCARY bad guys.
56:22 <Yiroep> But so does the magus...and I made one of those.......and am very pleased with the results. :)
56:45 <CWheezy> Spellkiller inquisition is something that does not require a deity 
57:05 <Yuugi> What is that? I'm not familiar with the bazillion splatbooks.
57:05 <CWheezy> oh
57:13 <CWheezy> here is something from the paladin class
57:13 <CWheezy> Divine Bond (Sp)   Upon reaching 5th level, a paladin forms a divine bond with her god. This bond can take one of two forms. Once the form is chosen, it cannot be changed.
57:20 <CWheezy> forms a divine bond with her god
57:25 <Yuugi> That part is flavor text.
57:44 <CWheezy> backfire effect
57:45 <Yuugi> There is no rule there that says a deity actually needs a connection to the class, as in when choosing alignment.
57:48 <Yuugi> So
57:58 <CWheezy> I show you fact, you believe stronger in your position
57:59 <CWheezy> sorry
58:02 <Yuugi> The bonds formed with that ability have nothing to do with what deity you pick.
58:04 <Yiroep> Maybe I'll make an enchantment based character....like all my wizards always give up the school. Would probably have to be a cha caster, though.....
58:05 <CWheezy> ultimate magic is a splatbook
58:13 <CWheezy> ?
58:22 <Yuugi> CWheezy: Thank you, I'll look at the book.
59:13 <Yuugi> Uh, I don't see Spellkiller Inquisition in Ultimate Magic
59:33 <Yuugi> . . . it's in Ultimate Combat
59:36 <Yuugi> lol, fail
59:40 <CWheezy> blargh
00:00 <Yuugi> And, yes, it still requires a deity.
00:13 <Yuugi> > Spellkiller Inquisition Deities: Any (with GM approval).
00:19 <Yuugi> It doesn't say "None"
00:24 <CWheezy> Although inquisitors are dedicated to a deity, they are above many of the normal rules and conventions of the church. They answer to their deity and their own sense of justice alone, and are willing to take extreme measures to meet their goals.
00:27 <Yuugi> But "Any", meaning you must still pick one.
00:42 <CWheezy> well you can pick non gods
00:49 <CWheezy> or a path
00:50 <Yuugi> Yes, and so can Clerics
00:52 <CWheezy> like hating wizards
00:59 <Kysune> I guess a Paladin could be without a deity.  They cast devine spells with holy power and Oracles cast divine spells and don't have to have a deity.
01:01 <Yiroep> Inquisitor of Nethys with Spellkiller Inquisition!
01:03 <Yuugi> And Druids
01:04 <Yiroep> Yeahyah!
01:16 <CWheezy> yeah paladins often choose a celestial mount
01:23 <CWheezy> if they do not worship a god, this is granted by
01:24 <Yuugi> Really?
01:29 <Yuugi> I'd pick the sword
01:33 <CWheezy> ok
01:37 <Yuugi> Swords are awesome.
01:42 <CWheezy> so a paladin doesn't worship a god, and picks celestial mount
01:54 <Yuugi> Yes?
01:55 <CWheezy> the mount just comes to him I guess
02:04 <CWheezy> for being so goodly
02:04 <Yuugi> There's nothing in the rules to say that cannot happen.
02:08 <Yuugi> Exactly.
02:10 <Kysune> So his goodness attracts a celestrial companion
02:16 <CWheezy> despite the rules saying what does happen
02:17 <CWheezy> got it
02:23 <CWheezy> ok next discussion
02:27 <Yuugi> Nope, the rules don't say where the mount comes from
02:52 <Kysune> Personally I hate the restriction of most of the classes having to have a mount companion.
03:14 <Kysune> makes it pretty difficult to get Sparky in a PFS fight when there's not enough room.
03:32 <Yuugi> (That's one reason I'd pick the sword.)
03:38 <Mekkis> solution: play a small character
03:44 <Yiroep> !spell Reduce Animal
03:46 <Yuugi> ew
03:49 <Yuugi> hobbit ponies
03:50 <Yiroep> I dunno how to use commands. :(
03:51 <Yuugi> Must die.
03:56 <Mekkis> gnomes are best
03:59 <Kysune> yeah that's what I've resorted to when building a character in the past.
04:07 <Kysune> small character, wolf companion
04:16 <Yiroep> Anyway, just have a wand of reduce animal. Lasts an hour. :)
04:25 <Yiroep> Oh crap that's level 2.
04:28 <Yiroep> Nm, that's expensive.
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04:54 <Kysune> just get a dwarf and ride him
04:57 <Yuugi> Mounts are really meant to reduce travel time anyway, there's no sense in bringing them into caves or into buildings.
05:01 <Yuugi> You tie them up outside.
05:14 <Mekkis> Tell that to Grolschmir
05:16 <Yuugi> If you want a meatshield you summon things.
05:30 <Yiroep> I dunno. The aasimar/elf/sylph/ifrit nature oracle with super mount might disagree. :p
05:37 <Yuugi> . . .
05:42 <Kysune> well it's easier to have a statblock of a companion than to have 10 different stat blocks of summon animals
05:45 <Yuugi> Whenever I see more than one slash I know it's a mary sue.
05:59 <Yiroep> I was just listed different races....that all have the ability.
06:08 <Kysune> What ability?
06:25 <Yiroep> +1/2 per level for one revelation as an alternate favored class bonus.
06:37 <Yuugi> hm
06:40 <Yiroep> (Count as +1/2 per thing, that is)
11:30 <Mekkis> Avatar, reschedule Feast of Sigils on Sunday, 10:30am
17:53 <Darkkapow> Hey i can get henry to 10th with that game :D
26:38 <Darkkapow> how you 2 doing?
26:59 <Brunius> I've gotta run because school
27:20 <Brunius> only 900 XP from t5, but I forgot about the monetary cost
28:34 <Mekkis> still not at tier 7 yet
28:43 <Mekkis> and the AMX 40 is painful
29:04 <Mekkis> it has 27hp more than my car.
49:00 <Mekkis> you're fine with that time, right Avatar?
49:07 <Avatar> yeah
49:11 <Avatar> not my favourite day
46:45 <Yuugi> Hi
11:15 <Yuugi> Hi
18:25 <EricMcG> goya, are you here?
21:48 <Yuugi> Hi EricMcG 
03:03 <EricMcG> hey
03:13 <EricMcG> going to try a game at some point?
22:38 <Yuugi> Maybe.
07:30 <Yuugi> nyaa
25:47 <Yiroep> Hello.
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25:38 <Steven> bored.
33:09 <Avatar> YOU'RE bored
33:21 <Steven> lil bit.
34:03 <Avatar> yeah I thought so
34:55 <Steven> wonder what kind of cool boons they will have at gen con for the playes.
58:23 <Yuugi> oh
58:26 <Yuugi> right
58:27 <Kysune> oh my bad
58:28 <Kysune> you're right
58:30 <Kysune> Half orc
58:44 <Kysune> goes to show I never play that race along with dwarf lol
59:03 <Kysune> gnomes and dwarves don't look like crap in PF so I don't mind playing either of them now.
59:04 <Yuugi> Too bad, a dwarf who is light on his feet and dances with fans could be a fun character concept.
59:11 <Steven> do you have the advanced race guide?
59:19 <Kysune> I'm a bit picky on using characters that look appealing.
59:31 <Kysune> No, I just have Core, APG, and UC
59:36 <Yuugi> ah
59:44 <Steven> alright, so we wont go into alternate racials.
00:00 <Kysune> i think APG has alt racial traits
00:16 <Steven> not the good ones kysune
00:21 <Steven> like humans dual talent
00:21 <Kysune> ah gotcha
00:29 <Steven> if he had that, human all day.
00:36 <Kysune> what book is that from?
00:36 <Steven> +2 dex +2 wis... done.
00:47 <Kysune> and it's PFS legal?
00:50 <Steven> Advanced Race guide.
00:55 <Steven> yes its pfs legal
01:06 <Kysune> that's a really nice bonus
01:07 <Steven> you give up your bonus feat and skilled.
01:11 <Steven> but get another +2
01:17 <Kysune> not a bad trade
01:29 <Kysune> My issue would be feats for this class though
01:46 <Kysune> because i'd be working on dual wielding feats and 1 style chain
02:01 <Kysune> at least that's what I assume
02:03 <Steven> so....
02:47 <Steven> you wanna do some styles...
03:00 <Steven> have you looked at the Master of many styles?
03:18 <Kysune> yeah but i give up flurry
03:31 * Steven shrugs
03:55 <Steven> with a str of 10-12 you arent going to be doing a lot of damage
04:05 <Kysune> true
04:25 <Kysune> any archetypes from APG worth looking into?
05:29 <Steven> actually, if you want to use a weapon
05:34 <Steven> I highly suggest martial artist
06:03 <Yuugi> Weapon Adept is also fun for Monks with weapons.
06:13 <Kysune> did you mean Weapon Adept?
06:34 <Steven> no, martial artist, its a monk archetype
06:42 <Yuugi> No, Martial Artist is in the UC. Weapon Adept is in the APG.
07:05 <Kysune> glancing at it, i'm not sure what's really attractive about it but willing to listen.
07:13 <Steven> you give up ki pool for the ability to bypass DR
07:30 <Kysune> does DR come up alot?
07:43 <Steven> a lot.
08:12 <Kysune> i know what DR is but what is CR?
08:30 <Kysune> reading exploit weakness atm
08:53 <Steven> its how difficult the monster is to battle.
09:04 <Kysune> ah challenge rating i guess.
09:18 <Steven> so like a regular everyday skeleton is CR 1/2
09:35 <Steven> so Wisdom check of 10 to bypass DR.
09:52 <Kysune> that replaces ki pool, so i can use that anytime? no charges
10:05 <Steven> unlimited uses a day.
10:08 <Kysune> nicde
10:10 <Kysune> nice*
10:32 <Kysune> how often does lvl7 ability to resist temp drains occur?
11:25 <Steven> well on sunday i was playing a high level module, we resisted over 30 points of str damage and my life oracle cured about 20
12:11 <Kysune> whats high level because i will start at lvl 1 and probably won't go past level 12.  Since this will most likely be a PFS char.
12:40 <Steven> it was outside the scope of PFS normal play
15:50 <Kysune> trying to see if there's a site that says what a Martial Artists can multiclass with (another archetype in monk)
17:14 <Kysune> aha, so Martial Artist and Sensei would work.
17:27 <Kysune> not sure if that'd be worth it
21:16 <Kysune> wait, i think the list is wrong because Martial Artist can't use Ki but Sensai spends ki at 6th level +
27:29 <Yuugi> lol
27:35 <Yuugi> Chargen is so difficult. :P
27:46 <Kysune> especially for me
28:00 <Kysune> i over think stuff sometimes
28:06 <Yuugi> Yeah.
33:16 <Kysune> thoughts on Hungry Ghost Monk?
39:57 <Yuugi> Eh
40:10 <Yuugi> I think if you're having trouble deciding you should stick to regular monk.
40:56 <Kysune> was just curious on the archetype, with its steal life and ki
50:26 <Kysune> thanks for all the help.  I'm going to head out.
15:37 <Yuugi> I wish I had someone to play Civ with.
47:16 <HTT-Bird> o/ Goya
13:58 <Yuugi> Ultio~
14:42 <Ultio> Yo
16:41 <Yuugi> You have Civ, right? Do you want to play sometime?
16:49 <Ultio> Yeah
17:10 <Yuugi> yay
17:18 <Darkkapow> I wish i had civ :( I'd play 5 looks so good with the new xpac
17:32 <Yuugi> 5 is great even without the new expansion.
17:35 <Ultio> I still need new xpac
17:46 <Ultio> but yeah 5 is awesome
18:12 <Yuugi> You can totally still play 5 without any DLC or expansions.
18:26 <Yuugi> In fact I still have to do that for some achievements.
25:11 <Ultio> anyone want to play now?
25:34 <Yuugi> I'd be up for it in 10 mins.
25:52 <Ultio> k
25:56 <Ultio> cool
26:17 <Yuugi> er maybe 5 mins actually
26:33 <Ultio> im ready whenever
44:00 <EricMcG> Are Steven or Goya here?
44:19 <Steven> nope.
44:21 <Steven> im not here.
45:47 <EricMcG> How do you want to send your chronicle sheet?
45:57 <Steven> Pony Express.
46:22 <EricMcG> Skype it is
46:47 <Steven> but if i log in skype ill be pestered by VOs
47:26 <EricMcG> Just get the file and quit out
47:51 <Steven> yeah.... like that can happen.
47:58 <Goya> I'm here.  Sorry
48:26 <EricMcG> Goya, If you go into Skype I can send you chronicles sheets
48:39 <Goya> ok. OMW. 
48:42 <Steven> alright speed run, opening skype
50:00 <Steven> fuck!
50:06 <Steven> yup, already being pestered.
50:15 <EricMcG> I now have two sending at once
50:19 <Steven> all your fault.
50:32 <Goya> Heh. 
51:12 <Goya> Thanks again for GM'ing by the way. =) 
51:14 <Goya> Got the file
51:15 <EricMcG> and I set the scan to hires 64 bit colour so files will eat all of you bandwidth and DL 
51:34 <EricMcG> Once Steven gets his, I;ll Tabby's
52:00 <Goya> Ok. No rush. =) 
52:20 <EricMcG> NP. If I do it again I'll start earlier, maybe 7:00 EST
53:03 <EricMcG> There's the next.
53:21 <Goya> *nods* It was pretty late - I could only imagine how late it was on your end. =) 
53:49 <Steven> OH! my chronicle sheet is inaccurate....
54:07 <Steven> through no fault of yours Eric.
54:20 <Goya> Thank you Eric
54:22 <Steven> i'd completely forgotten abou tit.
54:26 <EricMcG> 4:30 am. and I was scheduled to run it F2F at 1 the same day. I'm still zoo'd 
54:39 <EricMcG> 'bout what?
55:35 <Goya> I slept half of Sunday - and I went to bed at 2am... 
56:47 <Goya> Oh yeah - while you're here Steven - did you ever record the #4-15 way back on 6/28? It doesn't show up on Paizo under sessions for some reason
58:53 <Steven> i honestly dont have any recollection of that game.
00:39 <Steven> whats your number? maybe i put it in wrong
00:42 <Goya> Hrm.. 
00:47 <Goya> 81710-1
01:15 <Goya> I was the ranger that couldn't hit anything...  =P 
03:21 <Steven> i have an 81719.... what was your faction
03:33 <Goya> Andoran
05:29 <Steven> there
05:43 <Goya> Thanks!
08:58 <EricMcG> I may schedule City of Strangers or Quest for Perfection in September
09:55 <EricMcG> start time would be a lot earlier, maybe 7 or 8 EST
11:11 <Goya> Sweet!  I'll keep an eye out. 
12:59 <EricMcG> take care. i'll log in again over the weekend sometime.
13:12 <Goya> Likewise =) 
19:41 <Yuugi> Muu
24:49 <Goya> o/
26:26 <Yuugi> Hi Goya 
26:38 <Yuugi> Man, setting up this game is bonkers.
26:50 <Yuugi> I think I finally managed to get 3 or 4 players, but I dunno...
36:48 <Goya> It's a start =) 
37:17 <Goya> It took me several days to roll my first character - I'd hate to think the prep time involved in GM'ing anything. 
37:49 <Yuugi> Most of the prep is already done.
38:43 <Goya> Sounds like you're in the final stretch then. 
38:51 <Yuugi> I've read through the rulebook and the module already. I don't think there's much else to read.
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