// #d&d — 2013-08-09
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00:35:19 <Mekkis> Cool
00:35:25 <Mekkis> Got my KM switch set up
00:42:17 <Ultio> hello people
00:42:39 <Mekkis> oh no
00:42:52 <Ultio> oh yes
00:43:41 <Darkkapow> mekk
00:43:46 <Darkkapow> i am destroying with my lee :/
00:44:13 <Ultio> lol?
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01:00:34 <Mekkis> that's imopssible!
01:04:34 <Darkkapow> I had 4 running games where i went 4+ kills
01:04:43 <Darkkapow> I just ram killed a tier 6 with my T-28
01:04:50 <Darkkapow> and got the kamikazi achievement
01:06:56 <Darkkapow> also the reason the second gun on it does nothing is because it literally just upgrades your arp rounds by 2 mm of pen
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01:21:12 <Yuugi> I've been playing the new Civ 5 expansion
01:21:34 <Ultio> civ 5 is super addictive
01:22:18 <Yuugi> Yes
01:23:03 <Ultio> first time i played i put 12 hours straight and it felt like it was only 3 minutes
01:27:22 <Darkkapow> how i am with anno2070
01:58:01 <Yuugi> > 12 hours straight
01:58:03 <Yuugi> That's like nothing.
01:58:40 <Ultio> haha for my first time ever it was (theres a joke in there somewhere)
02:00:36 <Yuugi> :P
02:05:10 <Ultio> i just got the gold edition though. havnt played brave new world
02:10:24 <Yuugi> Ah, too bad.
02:10:29 <Yuugi> I've got all the DLC
02:10:47 <Ultio> whats do they add?
02:12:43 <Yuugi> The expansions add lots of new stuff.
02:12:51 <Yuugi> The other DLC are mostly new civs and new map types
02:13:02 <Ultio> oic
02:13:26 <Yuugi> for instance, Genghis Khan
02:14:05 <Ultio> yeah they made him the leader of the barbarians?
02:15:36 <Yuugi> No
02:15:45 <Ultio> oh
02:15:48 <Yuugi> He's a free DLC everyone has.
02:15:53 <Ultio> oh
02:16:14 <Yuugi> You can look to him to what you usually get. New Civ, new Leader, and new Scenario game I think.
02:16:59 <Ultio> is it worth $30 though. i mean i have all the other expansions
02:17:43 <Yuugi> Which ones are you talking about?
02:17:59 <Ultio> i have everything except BNW
02:18:48 <Yuugi> Oh, so you have Korea and the Explorer's Map Pack and stuff?
02:19:14 <Ultio> it should have been in the Gold Edition so yeah
02:19:30 <Ultio> It said everything released up to that point excluding BNW
02:20:19 <Yuugi> Oh, well then I'd say you've got a lot to play already.
02:20:39 <Yuugi> BNW does have a lot of content, I don't usually judge based on price.
02:21:06 <Ultio> ill prolly pick it up next pay period
02:21:30 <Yuugi> I find it very rewarding because I like the culture victory and they totally revamped the victory condition.
02:21:50 <Ultio> oh cool
02:22:06 <Ultio> first match i accidentally won by culture
02:22:09 <Yuugi> If you prefer the Diplomatic Victory though
02:22:18 <Yuugi> They also actually made a World Congress thing
02:22:23 <Ultio> oh wow
02:22:24 <Yuugi> With votes on stuff
02:22:28 <Yuugi> Like in Civ IV
02:22:30 <Ultio> that sounds cool
02:22:47 <Yuugi> There is also nine new Civs (expansions always have lots of new goodies)
02:22:57 <Yuugi> New Wonders, and other things.
02:23:08 <Ultio> oh ok
02:24:02 <Yuugi> If you ever want to play I'd be willing to play with you.
02:24:24 <Ultio> oh for sure
02:24:29 <Ultio> Ultio21 is my steam
02:27:05 <Yuugi> yay
02:29:39 <Ultio> bout to go to bed right now though
02:34:55 <Yuugi> Night
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07:10:44 <Avatar> I am really keen on looking at brave new world
07:10:54 <Avatar> just not for $50 out of my pocket
07:13:07 <CWheezy> brave new world, the book?
07:13:18 <CWheezy> oh the game
07:20:40 <Avatar> yeah, civ5 expansion
07:21:35 <CWheezy> the book is better imo
07:29:11 <Avatar> apples and oranges
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08:04:23 <Yuugi> Avatar: It's $30 not $50
08:18:46 <Avatar> maybe where you're from
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10:30:44 <Yuugi> Where are you from? Africa? o.o
10:30:58 <CWheezy> australia
10:30:59 <CWheezy> I tink
10:31:06 <CWheezy> they pay roughly 50% more because australia
10:31:10 <CWheezy> it used to be because of shipping
10:31:16 <CWheezy> but on steam they still pay the same price
10:31:17 <Yuugi> Oh, right, this is AustNet
10:31:32 <Yuugi> I didn't realize their economy was 50% o.o
10:31:49 <CWheezy> I think for videogames in general
10:31:54 <CWheezy> I dunno about other goods
10:32:45 <Yuugi> hm
10:58:43 <HTT-Bird> o/ Goya and Yuugi
11:03:57 <Goya> o/
11:07:23 <Goya> CWheezy : I agree - Brave New World was great. I liked Island even better - though I haven't read either in over 20 years.. I can't speak to Civ V - because I still have Civ IV sitting in the queue to play.. =/
11:21:07 <Yuugi> Too bad, Civ V is better.
11:24:14 <Goya> Civ 5 is on gamefly (steam key) for $5.99.
11:24:59 <Goya> With 20% code - it drops to $4.80.
11:25:28 <Goya> Tempting to be sure.
11:26:31 <Yuugi> Well, since no one wants to play Basic D&D with me maybe I can play Civ V with you guys sometime.
11:29:11 <Goya> Hehe
11:31:23 <Yuugi> I can play any version, because it lets you turn off DLC if you want.
11:38:15 <Goya> For $5 - I can't resist.
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11:39:38 <Goya> THIS is how I get so far behind on games...
11:39:57 <Yuugi> Hey Ultio
11:40:01 <Ultio> Yo
11:40:04 <Brunius> I think Civ 4 was better than 5
11:40:53 <Yuugi> How come?
11:50:24 <Goya> Lots of folks like Civ 4 better - though I've yet to play either. Civ II was the last one I played.
11:51:22 <Yuugi> Civ III was my first.
11:51:29 <Yuugi> Guess I'm younger than you :P
11:51:55 <Yuugi> Played it in the computer labs in high school on the LAN.
11:53:21 <Yuugi> I've also played IV, and enjoyed it for a while, but now I only play V.
11:54:32 <Goya> You're probably younger than me. ;)
11:55:34 <Goya> I'm guessing I'm one of the older folks in these parts. Though I have yet to confirm that suspicion.
11:56:02 <Yuugi> heh
12:14:53 <Yuugi> Anyone up for a game at the moment?
12:18:05 <Goya> I'm not even done downloading. Probably won't be done until I go to bed.. =/
12:18:23 <Ultio> im at work
12:20:43 <Yuugi> Bah, I hate timezones.
12:22:15 <Ultio> yeah
12:22:32 <Ultio> well i mean it's 922 pm here
12:22:40 <Ultio> i just work nights
12:23:57 <Goya> It's 7pm here.
12:24:37 <Ultio> mountain time?
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13:09:50 <Goya> PST
13:48:43 <Darkkapow> anyone know if there are any dinosaur's that have trip as a special ability on attack?
13:48:52 <Darkkapow> so on successful attack they get free trip?
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14:47:15 <Darkkapow> I think i've found my next pfs character :D
14:48:44 <Darkkapow> I have a question for the channel to, can an animal make unarmed strikes? If it has natural weapons claw or bit eor something can it also make unarmed strikes with say kicking some or heatbutting it
14:48:48 <Darkkapow> headbutting*
16:00:21 <CWheezy> if you have improved unarmed strike, sure
16:00:29 <CWheezy> but you can't claw or use an attack on that limb
16:00:55 <CWheezy> if you do an unarmed strike with it
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16:09:27 <Steven> yo
16:10:10 <Brunius> !throw 1d1 test
16:10:11 <diebot> Brunius, test: [1d1=1] 1
16:10:24 <CWheezy> hiyo
16:12:10 <Steven> !throw Graham's number
16:12:43 <Steven> damn i was hoping it would come back with ...2464195387
16:17:08 <Darkkapow> it's not so much for an attack rotation wheezy it's for feat prereq :P
16:17:16 <Darkkapow> trying to do something funky with a druid
16:17:43 <Darkkapow> druid turns into a wolf using wild shape.
16:17:55 <Darkkapow> and basically cleaves things
16:18:03 <Darkkapow> then takes the free trip attempt
16:18:15 <Darkkapow> with greater trip and vicious stomp
16:18:27 <Darkkapow> while companion does basically the same
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16:25:09 <Darkkapow> Steven whats the logistics on 2 Huge Creatures flanking range :/?
16:25:33 <Darkkapow> huge is 10ft reach right?
16:25:46 <CWheezy> depends
16:25:46 <Steven> depends.
16:25:51 <CWheezy> bipedal is 15
16:25:55 <CWheezy> 4 leg is 10
16:26:03 <Steven> 5-15... sometimes up to 20 and ive seen one with a 25
16:26:10 <Darkkapow> okay wolf
16:26:12 <Steven> which creature?
16:26:15 <CWheezy> there is a huge creature with 60 foot reach
16:26:22 <CWheezy> but it is a tree
16:26:24 <Darkkapow> 2 huge wolfs
16:26:46 <Steven> no strange modifiers?
16:26:49 <Darkkapow> they could flank something like 7-11 squares if positioned right yes?
16:26:55 <Darkkapow> 2 huge wolves
16:27:00 <Darkkapow> no specific reach modifiers
16:27:20 <Darkkapow> a 10th level druid companion that is huge (not from enlarge spell)
16:27:24 <Darkkapow> is naturally huge
16:27:47 <Darkkapow> and the other one a druid assuming a huge wolf via beast shape III
16:28:09 <Steven> there are a lot of squares that will flank. i suggest you look at the combat section of the core rulebook and become familiar with what it says
16:28:58 <Ultio> what druid companion gets huge? only ones i saw got large
16:31:12 <Darkkapow> it's a druid companion that's been augmented by another class
16:31:43 <Darkkapow> but it's not because of any spell the beast is naturally that size
16:31:53 <Darkkapow> so an enlarge animal would make it gigantic
16:32:05 <Ultio> yeah i want that
16:32:12 <Steven> you mean gargantuan
16:32:25 <Darkkapow> my bad
16:32:28 <Darkkapow> G word
16:32:32 <Ultio> what class is that?
16:32:41 <Steven> Mammoth rider
16:32:42 <Darkkapow> Mammoth Rider
16:33:01 <Darkkapow> so Druid 9 Mammoth Rider 1 with an effective Druid level of 10 for Animal companions
16:33:04 <Darkkapow> but no bonus to spells
16:33:34 <Darkkapow> but you have 5th level spells and thats the important part XP
16:33:48 <Darkkapow> and your immunity
16:34:05 <Ultio> is that legal in pfs?
16:34:06 <Steven> false! the important part is that your animal companion is left outside buildings
16:34:12 <Ultio> lol
16:34:33 <Darkkapow> no it's not XP you reduce animal it so it can fit
16:34:52 <Steven> no, they're left outside cause nobody lets them inside
16:35:25 <Ultio> or you just ride it through the wall cuzz who's gonna stop you
16:35:29 <Darkkapow> when it comes to taverns etc sure
16:35:41 <Steven> @ultio town guard.
16:35:43 <Darkkapow> public places etc
16:36:34 <Steven> so my character is going to retrain something
16:36:53 <Ultio> but is it legal in PFS?
16:37:04 <Ultio> because i want my druid to have that
16:37:14 <Darkkapow> yes it's pfs legal
16:37:16 <Steven> yes its legal
16:37:22 <Steven> its just not very practical.
16:37:44 <Ultio> yeah a huge creature wouldnt fit down all those hallways
16:37:46 <Darkkapow> aslong as you prepare reduce animal it's always practical
16:38:58 * Steven pets kapow on the head
16:39:01 <Steven> Sure it is...
16:40:36 <Darkkapow> large can squeeze :P
16:40:58 <CWheezy> lol mammoth riders
16:41:18 <Ultio> sounds awesome
16:42:34 <Darkkapow> I don't want to ride the damn thing
16:42:50 <Darkkapow> I just want it to get all the fun bits likes the extra reach and the bonus's to str and con
16:43:57 <Steven> damn cant train it.
16:43:59 <Steven> fuck beans
16:45:47 <Steven> wanted to drop dangerously curious for the new magic feat in the primer
16:46:28 <Steven> magic trait even
16:46:29 <Darkkapow> I want to make a cavalier/mammoth rider but without reduce animal it's just not practical
16:46:47 <Steven> so i could get my wayfinder as my arcane bonded item.
16:47:02 <Darkkapow> that could let you do some hinky stuff :/
16:47:15 <Steven> oh dude... the traits is rediculously awesome
16:47:38 <Darkkapow> I just discovered corsair
16:47:42 <Darkkapow> and want to make one :/
16:47:54 <Darkkapow> when i was looking at fighter archetypes if i was going fighter druid
16:48:00 <Darkkapow> cleave with no negatives
16:48:15 <Darkkapow> and being in full plate and having 0 acp on swim at higher levels
16:48:25 <Darkkapow> I don't care how unexciting that sounds to anyone else
16:48:33 <Darkkapow> your never going to drown again!
16:48:39 <Steven> "choosing this traits allows you to upgrade this wayfinder to a variant or unique wayfinder per the normal rules for improving magic items on pages 553 of the CRB."
16:48:53 <Steven> so.... yeah... pretty fuckin awesome trait
16:52:06 <Darkkapow> wow okay hang on
16:52:59 <Darkkapow> what can you put onto it though?
16:53:11 <Darkkapow> could you have a wayfinder of intelligence +4?
16:53:23 <Darkkapow> and then wear a headband of one of the others
16:53:29 <Darkkapow> or does it have to be other properties
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17:42:34 <boris> :/
17:45:19 <Darkkapow> evening
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19:37:12 <Steven> up
19:42:49 <Steven> yay my s key is fixed now
19:59:28 <Ultio> yay!!
20:03:34 <Ultio> now you can walk backwards!
20:05:04 <Darkkapow> now he can type his own name!
20:15:33 <Mekkis> yay
20:15:46 <Steven> yay!
20:15:52 <Steven> pickin 3rd level spells for my wizzie
20:16:15 <Mekkis> It's official. Linux is faster than windows when it comes to recognising that a USB device has been added.
20:16:22 <Mekkis> This means that linux is better than windows :)
20:16:44 <Brunius> I thought we established that ages ago
20:17:14 <Mekkis> further proof
20:21:01 <Darkkapow> group up mekkis or not playing?
20:21:29 <Mekkis> Sure. Let's group up/
20:22:28 <Brunius> wot?
20:22:33 <Mekkis> yeah
20:22:36 <Mekkis> You want in Brunius?
20:22:53 <Brunius> gimme a sec to start my client
20:23:08 <Steven> whatcha guys doin?
20:23:14 <Mekkis> Blowing up tanks
20:23:30 <Steven> awesome!
20:23:35 <Mekkis> Unless you want to run PFS for us...
20:23:43 <Mekkis> hmm
20:24:06 <Mekkis> Brunius, APAC server?
20:24:17 <Brunius> Not sure I have that client installed
20:24:19 <Brunius> I might
20:24:51 <Steven> nope its the night of my birthday, im busy drinking a dram of glen and relaxing
20:25:11 <Steven> pickin out 3rd level spells for my character
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20:25:28 <Mekkis> Drink scotch, relax, and run PFS then
20:25:44 <Mekkis> Also: could you explain to me what the deal about the ITS is?
20:26:37 <Steven> no clue what you're talkin bout.
20:26:48 <Mekkis> Inventory tracking sheet
20:26:49 <Mekkis> new guide
20:27:06 <Brunius> I should probably read the new guide
20:31:09 <Steven> Vamp Touch
20:35:05 <Darkkapow> ok i blew up ^_^
20:35:07 <Darkkapow> invite me
20:35:46 <Steven> next level takin vamp touch as my specialized spell
20:36:00 <Steven> 5d6 damage 5d6 temp hp... oh yeah
20:36:42 <Mekkis> I'm here
20:37:11 <Brunius> apparently I have three versions of world of tanks installed
20:37:18 <Brunius> none of which are for asia-pacific
20:37:48 <Mekkis> I am downloading a game at 23MB/s while playing WoT
20:37:57 <Mekkis> and my ping's still 150ms
20:37:58 <Mekkis> :)
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21:13:18 <Ultio> Hello Everybody
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21:52:12 <Brunius> why has it hung 400kb short of completion
21:52:15 <Brunius> why would it do this
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23:38:05 <Yuugi> Hi
23:42:43 <Avatar> sup
23:46:23 <Yuugi> Not much
23:47:30 <Avatar> cool
23:52:51 <Yuugi> Just lazing around.
23:52:57 <Yuugi> Probably gonna play more Civ
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