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00:01:20 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 10th 10.30am (tier 7-11,Mekkis) || WotW: Sat 24th 1.30pm || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
00:01:20 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Aug 7 23:23:47 2013
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00:01:34 <Mekkis> moin
00:02:54 <Yuugi> Hi
00:09:51 <Mekkis> how are things
00:14:18 <Yuugi> ok I guess
00:14:30 <Yuugi> Still sad about my lack of players.
00:15:22 <Yuugi> >_>
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03:01:46 <Avatar> good song
03:07:50 <Avatar> what was yuugi trying to run that he apparently advertised properly but I didn't know about
03:27:09 <Darkkapow> cookies and cream
03:27:11 <Darkkapow> cookies and cream!
03:27:59 <Brunius> you said that
03:29:19 <Brunius> Avatar: He was trying to run a game of OD&D
03:29:32 <Brunius> Elves, Halfings, Dwarves as character classes
03:29:39 <Brunius> a whole bunch of different mechanics
03:29:53 <Avatar> oh that's right
03:29:56 <Brunius> Nobody was willing to learn a new system for the sake of one random
03:29:59 <Avatar> tough to get a new system going
03:30:23 <Brunius> Although I already half-know the system
03:31:05 <Brunius> I think I also tried to get a game going in it, way back
03:31:16 <Brunius> tristen used to play it, too, I think
03:32:42 <Brunius> Tashes
03:34:09 <Darkkapow> I get to start playing skull and shackels monday fortnight :D
03:39:33 <mib_sodgvl> Hello all
03:42:07 <Avatar> hi is anyone here?
03:42:10 <Avatar> no ok bye
03:45:31 <Brunius> no
03:49:39 <Beaukane> Hi guys. I am wondering if i could get some info on the Pathfinder Rpg
03:49:57 <Brunius> shoot
03:50:40 <Beaukane> I have no experience at all, but i am interested in playing.
03:50:56 <Avatar> what got you keen on pathfinder to begin with
03:53:55 <CWheezy> yes
03:54:01 <Avatar> and his ranged damage sucks, despite being able to hit touch AC
03:54:05 <CWheezy> yes dcs for spells will suck, because you did not max cha
03:54:16 <Avatar> he has a cha of 18
03:54:19 <CWheezy> if you want damage, be an archer
03:54:20 <Avatar> it shouldn't be quite that bad
03:54:35 <CWheezy> guns are REALLY REALLY BAD
03:54:36 <Avatar> I just want usefulness really
03:54:55 <Avatar> look at the sheet and tell me what to retrain
03:54:58 <CWheezy> archers also out dps gunslingers, even the dumb double pistol ones
03:55:15 <Brunius> Fine
03:55:17 <Brunius> Time out then
03:55:21 <Brunius> See if I care :'(
03:55:26 <CWheezy> oh right you dumped str
03:55:30 <CWheezy> hnngh
03:56:03 <Beaukane> sorry, lost connection
03:56:05 <CWheezy> training is right now
03:56:10 <CWheezy> incredibly, incredibly expensive
03:56:11 <boris> hhe
03:56:14 <Brunius> We noticed.
03:56:35 <Avatar> desperate times call for desperate measures
03:56:36 <CWheezy> rapid reload on your gun
03:56:38 <CWheezy> is needed
03:56:40 <CWheezy> 100%
03:56:53 <Avatar> what feat should I burn for that
03:57:23 <CWheezy> I would probably drop all the trip stuff
03:57:31 <CWheezy> and lore warden
03:58:01 <Avatar> what got you keen on pathfinder to begin with
03:59:19 <Beaukane> I have been looking online for a solo game. I found that the pathfinder card game is being realesed soon. After some research i foun more info on the RPG and thought it sounded very interesting
04:00:08 <Avatar> forget solo
04:00:14 <Avatar> roll up a character
04:00:16 <Avatar> pathfinder society
04:00:22 <Avatar> that's the best part of the character
04:00:51 <Beaukane> yea. after i found the online site that lead me to this, i decided to come chat and learn how to play the real thing
04:00:55 <CWheezy> well everything is going to be flying now
04:00:59 <CWheezy> or a big monster
04:01:12 <Avatar> grab this
04:01:14 <Avatar> ?guide
04:01:16 <diebot> Avatar, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
04:01:23 <Avatar> so you're saying trip specialists are never viable ever
04:01:34 <Avatar> and uh
04:02:07 <Avatar> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/738618/PFRPG_SRD.pdf
04:02:20 <CWheezy> they are only viable for a while
04:02:27 <Avatar> that's a light version of the core rulebook
04:02:28 <CWheezy> also, most trippers at least have power atack or something right
04:02:59 <Avatar> power attack increases damage, why would you take power attack for a combat maneuver
04:03:49 <CWheezy> you gotta kill what you trip
04:04:08 <Beaukane> cool. downloading now
04:04:45 <Avatar> if you want a hand creating it, yell out
04:04:50 <Avatar> any of us can step you through it
04:04:52 <CWheezy> and yes, as you level up, combat manuevers get way worse
04:05:01 <Avatar> especially brunius
04:05:08 <Avatar> the party can kill what I trip
04:05:41 <Darkkapow> yeah especially that guy
04:05:53 <Darkkapow> have you played any RP games before?
04:06:21 <CWheezy> well many trippers can do both
04:06:36 <CWheezy> so that in case you fight harpies or something, you aren't screwed
04:06:49 <Beaukane> never played a RPG before, but excited to learn
04:07:16 <Avatar> you don't know what you're getting yourself into
04:07:18 <CWheezy> I am looking at cr 9 monsters, and your trip isn't enough to trip vs them more than half the time
04:07:28 <Avatar> before you know it you will be begging for the next game
04:07:32 <Avatar> begging
04:07:41 <Beaukane> I hope so
04:08:10 <Avatar> okay so devil's advocate, what do you suggest I do exactly
04:08:36 <CWheezy> remove lore warden
04:08:41 <CWheezy> all the trip feats
04:08:53 <CWheezy> replace with rapid reload, amateur gunslinger
04:09:02 <CWheezy> deadly aim
04:09:24 <Avatar> that's 20 prestige right there
04:09:33 <CWheezy> yes
04:09:35 <CWheezy> it is too much
04:09:56 <CWheezy> like, apparently death is easier than learning how to shoot a gun
04:09:59 <Darkkapow> avatar is the best beggar if you want tips ask him
04:10:02 <Avatar> haha
04:10:33 <Steven> its unlearning patterns and learning something else in its place
04:10:41 <Avatar> sign up on the site and mark off your scenarios
04:10:52 <Avatar> that way the GMs know what you've played and can organise games you haven't played
04:10:59 <Beaukane> I have an idea of the character and class i want to play. But have not much idea how to play
04:11:03 <Brunius> but if you've never played before, you won't have any classes
04:11:04 <Avatar> the guide explains what scenarios are, don't worry about that for now
04:11:05 <Brunius> uh
04:11:10 <Steven> The military does this when they train soldiers.
04:11:10 <Brunius> scenarios, not classes
04:11:16 <Avatar> what's your idea
04:11:58 <Beaukane> A dwarf. and a Mellee class
04:12:17 <Avatar> fighter or barbarian
04:12:20 <Avatar> you're laughing
04:12:24 <Avatar> that is easy
04:12:26 <CWheezy> yeah but I mean
04:12:32 <CWheezy> coming back from the dead
04:12:51 <CWheezy> there should be an ongoing prestige cost for ptsd
04:12:58 <CWheezy> from dying
04:13:08 <Brunius> For the past three days I've been thinking it's friday
04:13:29 <Steven> there is, its called two negative levels
04:13:37 <Beaukane> I like the idea of fighter, Because it will suit the back story i want to create for the character
04:14:02 <Avatar> hah
04:14:25 <CWheezy> ptsd doesn't go away in two weeks imo
04:15:41 <Steven> you also cant come back to life with the casting of magic, but lets suspend some of our logic and pretend its a game.
04:16:27 <CWheezy> great so retraining should probably be cheap
04:16:38 <CWheezy> it actually makes more sense for character growth
04:16:43 <Avatar> fighter is a top notch class
04:16:48 <CWheezy> because maybe you aren't tough any more, or something
04:22:43 <Steven> yo
04:23:14 <Steven> gluttony wizard level 5
04:24:38 <Avatar> what are you talking about birthday boy
04:24:49 <Avatar> Steven: if you made a tripping build character, would you retrain the whole thing at level 8
04:24:55 <Steven> my gluttony wizard is now level 5
04:25:44 <Steven> no, but then again i wouldnt be trying to retrain it
04:26:08 <Avatar> cool
04:26:13 <Avatar> look at my character and tell me what to rebuild
04:26:45 <Brunius> did I miss an update
04:26:52 <Brunius> are they allowing you to retrain now
04:27:03 <Steven> the problem is you've got like 1/3 of 3 builds jammed together
04:27:33 <CWheezy> ^ that is why I said what I said
04:28:06 <Steven> you need to pick one thing and then decide to do that well
04:28:24 <Avatar> yeah
04:28:29 <Avatar> the tripping I want to stick with
04:28:34 <Avatar> the gun and the spells I can lose
04:28:43 <Steven> and then count on your party members to be able to assist you with the other stuff
04:28:43 <Avatar> but I need a secondary option
04:28:51 <Avatar> yeah he is a support character
04:29:27 <Avatar> ideally I don't even want him to have spells because he is an archaeologist, not a bard
04:29:34 <Avatar> but, thank you paizo, he has spells
04:30:02 <Steven> pick buffing spells.
04:30:44 <Avatar> I usually run low on spells with my current lot, changing out new ones is unlikely to help
04:31:36 <CWheezy> yeah bards are great because you can do all the rogue things an then whoops, spells
04:31:57 <Steven> pick up some dungeon buffs
04:32:03 <Steven> 10m/level
04:32:27 <Avatar> what is a dungeon buff
04:32:49 <CWheezy> heroism
04:32:54 <CWheezy> barkskin
04:34:16 <Avatar> so basically a buff
04:34:27 <CWheezy> well
04:34:34 <CWheezy> buffs are in 4 catagories really
04:34:38 <Steven> yup
04:34:42 <CWheezy> all day, pre dungeon, pre fight, in fight
04:35:15 <Steven> all day-Mage Armor, Heroism, Good Hope, Haste
04:35:24 <Steven> i hit enter before i meant to
04:35:31 <Avatar> is there a list of these anywhere
04:35:35 <Avatar> I have never heard of this before
04:35:38 <Steven> all day-Mage Armor, Heroism, Good Hope, Haste-In fight
04:35:53 <CWheezy> heroism is 10 min per
04:36:05 <Steven> yes, i listed them from all day to in fight
04:36:06 <CWheezy> of course there is no list, you are playing pathfinder
04:36:12 <CWheezy> system mastery is the FUN PART
04:36:23 <Steven> giving an example of each in the corresponding slot
04:36:28 <CWheezy> right, o
04:36:43 <CWheezy> bards have special ones
04:36:48 <CWheezy> the immediate action ones
04:36:51 <CWheezy> well
04:36:54 <CWheezy> they are in fight I guess
04:36:56 <Avatar> lists exist
04:37:03 <Avatar> I have just never heard of this terminology
04:37:08 <Steven> spells are what make or break a bard
04:37:33 <CWheezy> I actually have never heard it either
04:37:38 <CWheezy> I just thought of it now
04:37:38 <Avatar> well I don't plan to go beyond 6th level archaeologist
04:37:48 <Avatar> I was planning to go with lore warden from now on
04:38:00 <Steven> well you get heroism which is freakin amazing...
04:38:12 <CWheezy> everyone loves heroism
04:38:46 <Steven> i think you should get to that 7th level of bard
04:39:22 <Steven> because you pick up 3rd level spells, which means haste & good hope
04:40:03 <Steven> because if YOU cast haste, that means the wizard can spend his first action to cast something else, like.... Baleful polymorph
04:40:04 <CWheezy> probably drop gunslinger if you want to stay tripping and support
04:40:13 <CWheezy> or WALL OF FORCE
04:40:18 <CWheezy> fuck yes wall of force
04:40:19 <Steven> god love wall of force
04:40:26 <CWheezy> man is it dumb
04:40:43 <Avatar> haste eh
04:40:48 <Steven> We sealed an enemy up in his little alcove
04:40:55 <Steven> finished off his minions
04:41:07 <CWheezy> some guy said "how could you nerf wlal of force more, it is so nerfed from 3.5!"
04:41:08 <Steven> then dismissed it... dude was like... well fuck me... i surrender
04:41:25 <CWheezy> it is the jokest of nerfs
04:41:34 <CWheezy> it matters in like, 1% of situations
04:41:45 <Steven> if that
04:41:53 <CWheezy> yeah,
04:42:01 <CWheezy> maybe it does if you are playing in the hit paizo ap
04:42:19 <Avatar> how was it nerfed
04:42:20 <CWheezy> Rise of the Rust Monsters
04:42:34 <CWheezy> with the big bad guy Lord Sunderling and his army of adamantine weilding soldiers
04:42:36 <CWheezy> avatar
04:42:44 <CWheezy> in 2.5, it had to hardness and health
04:42:50 <CWheezy> had no hardness
04:43:09 <Steven> my Gluttony wizard tanked 2 rust monsters yesterday... only person int eh party not wearing a full suit of metal
04:43:21 <CWheezy> they are funny guys
04:43:24 <CWheezy> 1d4 damage
04:43:29 <CWheezy> I would have one as a pet really
04:43:45 <Steven> my inquisitor has a guantlet of rust
04:43:54 <CWheezy> so avatar in pathfinder they were like
04:43:58 <Steven> so he can rust the hinges off of locked doors
04:44:00 <CWheezy> this spell is pretty good, we should nerf it
04:44:09 <CWheezy> oh how about 30 hardness and 20 hp per caster level
04:44:16 <CWheezy> so when you can cast it the wall has 180 health
04:44:39 <CWheezy> I don't know of any level 9 character that can get through that fucking wall before the round per level is over
04:45:01 * Steven totally can...
04:45:06 * Steven is a munchkin
04:45:17 <CWheezy> even if you have an adamantine weapon
04:45:23 <CWheezy> you only ignore 10 hardness
04:45:25 <CWheezy> er
04:45:26 <CWheezy> 20
04:45:56 <CWheezy> oh lol
04:46:00 <CWheezy> you don't ignore the hardness at all
04:46:01 <CWheezy> lol
04:46:07 <CWheezy> only hardness less than 20
04:46:07 <Steven> you cant bypass it with adamantine
04:46:24 <Steven> you pull out a rod of cancellation
04:46:54 <CWheezy> lol you spent 30% of your wbl
04:47:07 <CWheezy> I lied, 23
04:47:14 <Steven> nah
04:47:27 <Steven> my characters level 16...
04:47:36 <CWheezy> oh I specified level 9
04:47:43 <CWheezy> since that is when you get wall of force
04:48:07 <Steven> my cloistered cleric bought one soon as he could afford it.
04:48:22 <Steven> cause why the fuck not.
04:48:30 <Steven> seems like something a worshiper of nethys should have
04:48:37 <CWheezy> because you need to do other things
04:48:47 <CWheezy> it actually doesn't hurt spellcasters much
04:49:04 <Steven> doesnt help em much either though
04:49:30 <CWheezy> plus, disintegrate scrolls are only 1650
04:49:37 <CWheezy> oh you can't buy them in pfs
04:49:39 <CWheezy> whoops
04:49:49 <CWheezy> oh nvm yeah you can
04:50:19 <CWheezy> and cleric, dur
06:59:18 <Steven> BACON
07:09:33 <Ultio21> bacon is good
07:09:51 <Ultio21> exit
07:13:41 <Avatar> I really don't understand why people are obsessed with bacon
07:13:51 <Avatar> I am fairly sure most don't like bacon as much as they say
07:13:53 <Avatar> it's just a thing
07:41:28 <Steven> dude i love bacon.
07:41:45 <Steven> I even eat it in BLTs and i hate Lettuce and Tomato.
07:43:46 <Avatar> yeah but probably only because it's a thing
07:43:53 <Avatar> I like bacon too but I am not obsessed with it
07:44:49 <Steven> its okay avatar, its clear you're suffering from lack of bacon.
07:45:13 <Steven> you're not thinking clearly, obviously confused.
07:46:01 <Avatar> I am not suffering
07:46:19 <Steven> Classic denial
07:46:42 <Avatar> I am not suffering and I resent the implication
07:48:12 <Steven> of course, of course...
07:48:50 <Steven> we could clear all of this up quickly, just go cook some bacon.
07:49:07 <Avatar> this is exactly my point
07:49:17 <Avatar> perhaps instead I will have some celery
07:49:46 <Steven> with bacon?
08:08:41 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 10th 10.30am (tier 7-11,Mekkis) / Sun 11th 11.30am (tier 3-7,EricMcG) || WotW: Sat 24th 1.30pm || All topic times are AEST (UTC+10:00); set up your timezone on the site for local times in the Schedule! | Pathfinder Online http://www.pfrpg.com.au
08:08:41 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Thu Aug 8 07:08:31 2013
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08:08:51 <Avatar> Yuugi: what lack of players
08:11:45 <Yuugi> ?
08:11:59 <Yuugi> Lack of players means I don't have enough people for my game.
08:12:10 <Avatar> what game
08:13:04 <Avatar> if you want to schedule one here, pm me some details
08:13:20 <Avatar> I wasn't aware you were going to run something
08:13:32 <Avatar> I gotta run to work
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08:24:37 <Yuugi> Well, it's not that I'm not advertising it properly
08:24:43 <Yuugi> I just can't find interested players.
08:26:38 <Mekkis> I've given you my reason, and I imagine it's shared by others here too
08:31:07 <Yuugi> Not just here, Mekkis
08:31:17 <Yuugi> I've asked in two other channels, too :(
08:32:46 <Bloodlust> yo
08:33:50 <Kaylakaze> There seems to be a surplus of players looking for games on roll20
08:34:27 <Yuugi> Yeah, but I'd rather have a home chat to discuss stuff. roll20 is more like when everyone is already around the game table.
08:34:31 <Avatar> yo
08:40:44 <Yuugi> lots of these are for 3.5/PF or 4e anyway
08:53:33 <Darkkapow> yo
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09:17:35 <boris> baconlust
09:23:48 <Ultio> i got a fever, and the only cure is more bacon!
10:02:33 <Mekkis> moin
10:03:50 <Yuugi> Hi
10:10:47 <Mekkis> how are things
10:15:14 <Yuugi> ok I guess
10:15:26 <Yuugi> Still sad about my lack of players.
10:16:18 <Yuugi> >_>
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10:27:37 <HTT-Bird> o/ Goya
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13:23:42 <Ultio> Hey Hey Hey
13:30:20 <Brunius> it's always darkest, just before the dawwn
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15:45:55 <Yuugi> nyan
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17:00:50 <Avatar> good song
17:06:53 <Avatar> what was yuugi trying to run that he apparently advertised properly but I didn't know about
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17:26:12 <Darkkapow> cookies and cream
17:26:15 <Darkkapow> cookies and cream!
17:27:03 <Brunius> you said that
17:28:23 <Brunius> Avatar: He was trying to run a game of OD&D
17:28:35 <Brunius> Elves, Halfings, Dwarves as character classes
17:28:42 <Brunius> a whole bunch of different mechanics
17:28:57 <Avatar> oh that's right
17:28:59 <Brunius> Nobody was willing to learn a new system for the sake of one random
17:29:03 <Avatar> tough to get a new system going
17:29:26 <Brunius> Although I already half-know the system
17:30:08 <Brunius> I think I also tried to get a game going in it, way back
17:30:20 <Brunius> tristen used to play it, too, I think
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17:31:46 <Brunius> Tashes
17:33:13 <Darkkapow> I get to start playing skull and shackels monday fortnight :D
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17:38:36 <mib_sodgvl> Hello all
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17:41:11 <Avatar> hi is anyone here?
17:41:13 <Avatar> no ok bye
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17:44:34 <Brunius> no
17:48:43 <Beaukane> Hi guys. I am wondering if i could get some info on the Pathfinder Rpg
17:49:01 <Brunius> shoot
17:49:44 <Beaukane> I have no experience at all, but i am interested in playing.
17:49:59 <Avatar> what got you keen on pathfinder to begin with
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17:54:19 <Brunius> Fine
17:54:20 <Brunius> Time out then
17:54:24 <Brunius> See if I care :'(
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17:55:06 <Beaukane> sorry, lost connection
17:55:14 <boris> hhe
17:55:18 <Brunius> We noticed.
17:57:05 <Avatar> what got you keen on pathfinder to begin with
17:58:22 <Beaukane> I have been looking online for a solo game. I found that the pathfinder card game is being realesed soon. After some research i foun more info on the RPG and thought it sounded very interesting
17:59:11 <Avatar> forget solo
17:59:18 <Avatar> roll up a character
17:59:20 <Avatar> pathfinder society
17:59:55 <Beaukane> yea. after i found the online site that lead me to this, i decided to come chat and learn how to play the real thing
18:00:15 <Avatar> grab this
18:00:17 <Avatar> ?guide
18:00:19 <diebot> Avatar, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
18:00:38 <Avatar> and uh
18:01:10 <Avatar> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/738618/PFRPG_SRD.pdf
18:01:30 <Avatar> that's a light version of the core rulebook
18:03:12 <Beaukane> cool. downloading now
18:03:49 <Avatar> if you want a hand creating it, yell out
18:03:54 <Avatar> any of us can step you through it
18:04:04 <Avatar> especially brunius
18:04:44 <Darkkapow> yeah especially that guy
18:04:56 <Darkkapow> have you played any RP games before?
18:05:53 <Beaukane> never played a RPG before, but excited to learn
18:06:20 <Avatar> you don't know what you're getting yourself into
18:06:32 <Avatar> before you know it you will be begging for the next game
18:06:36 <Avatar> begging
18:06:45 <Beaukane> I hope so
18:09:02 <Darkkapow> avatar is the best beggar if you want tips ask him
18:09:45 <Avatar> sign up on the site and mark off your scenarios
18:09:47 <Avatar> Yuugi: what lack of players
18:09:55 <Avatar> that way the GMs know what you've played and can organise games you haven't played
18:10:03 <Beaukane> I have an idea of the character and class i want to play. But have not much idea how to play
18:10:07 <Brunius> but if you've never played before, you won't have any classes
18:10:08 <Avatar> the guide explains what scenarios are, don't worry about that for now
18:10:08 <Brunius> uh
18:10:13 <Brunius> scenarios, not classes
18:10:19 <Avatar> what's your idea
18:11:02 <Beaukane> A dwarf. and a Mellee class
18:11:21 <Avatar> fighter or barbarian
18:11:23 <Avatar> you're laughing
18:11:27 <Avatar> that is easy
18:12:12 <Brunius> For the past three days I've been thinking it's friday
18:12:40 <Beaukane> I like the idea of fighter, Because it will suit the back story i want to create for the character
18:12:42 <Yuugi> ?
18:12:55 <Yuugi> Lack of players means I don't have enough people for my game.
18:13:06 <Avatar> what game
18:14:00 <Avatar> if you want to schedule one here, pm me some details
18:14:17 <Avatar> I wasn't aware you were going to run something
18:14:29 <Avatar> I gotta run to work
18:15:47 <Avatar> fighter is a top notch class
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18:24:16 <Steven> and i may or may not have True Dead'd an entire table tonight.
18:25:34 <Yuugi> Well, it's not that I'm not advertising it properly
18:25:40 <Yuugi> I just can't find interested players.
18:27:33 <Avatar> still don't know what you're talking about
18:27:35 <Mekkis> I've given you my reason, and I imagine it's shared by others here too
18:29:25 <Steven> I Gm'd a game today that i could get credit for.
18:29:32 <Steven> My gluttony wizard is now level 5
18:29:47 <Steven> during hte course of that game i True death'd an entire table.
18:32:03 <Avatar> didn't they say happy birthday to you
18:32:04 <Yuugi> Not just here, Mekkis
18:32:08 <Avatar> is that why you killed them off
18:32:13 <Yuugi> I've asked in two other channels, too :(
18:32:33 <Steven> no... i gave them plenty of rope
18:32:43 <Steven> but they did not retreat when i humbly suggested they might.
18:33:15 <Steven> and instead decided that it would be a good idea to continue on in the adventure.
18:33:18 <Avatar> was exp involved
18:34:10 <Steven> 2 people dead/out, and the person who killed them was not dealt with other than to close and bar a door.
18:34:46 <Kaylakaze> There seems to be a surplus of players looking for games on roll20
18:34:46 <Steven> which eventually he got out of, and then it was boss+Alchemist.
18:34:50 <Mekkis> happy birthday Steven
18:35:01 <Steven> thank you mekkis
18:35:24 <Yuugi> Yeah, but I'd rather have a home chat to discuss stuff. roll20 is more like when everyone is already around the game table.
18:36:13 <Steven> and so yeah, the guys dropped everyone to unconscious, then branded them and sold them into slavery.
18:36:40 <Steven> no one had the PP to get recovered
18:36:58 <Steven> true dead on all players.
18:39:01 <Avatar> mekkis wants a free reroll
18:39:10 <Mekkis> why?
18:39:18 <Avatar> by saying happy birthday
18:39:22 <Avatar> you want to avoid a true death
18:40:16 <Steven> i passed a guy my folio so he could reroll a stabalization check.
18:40:20 <Steven> and he failed it.
18:41:40 <Yuugi> lots of these are for 3.5/PF or 4e anyway
18:43:11 <Mekkis> Avatar, all my characters have the resources to recover from a death
18:43:29 <Beaukane> would it be ok if i sit in on a game and observe, if so when would be the ideal time
18:43:45 <Mekkis> Saturday 10:30am is the next game, right?
18:43:58 <Mekkis> What's Eric running?
18:49:25 <Steven> So... 5th level
18:49:41 <Steven> 22DC for Necro spells
18:53:05 <Steven> so.... time to pick a discovery
18:53:42 <Steven> im torn between the Feral Speech and forests blessing
18:54:16 <Steven> the blessing is if i cast a spell thats on the wizard and druid spell list its +1DC and CL
18:55:26 <Brunius> how much overlap is there?
18:55:44 <Steven> mostly it would be fore the Contagion play.
18:56:22 <Steven> think imma just try to talk to animals.
18:57:26 <Steven> I already have my bouncing metamagic
18:58:32 <Steven> maybe i should get Persistant as well
18:58:45 <Steven> so i can Bouncing Persistant Blindness/Deafness
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19:00:21 <Steven> !rand MakeItJanky LessJanky
19:00:56 <dicebot> Steven, random: LessJanky
19:01:13 <Steven> alright dicebot no bouncing persistant spells
19:09:55 <Steven> taking the Bloatmage Initiate feat.
19:14:12 <Mekkis> ?guide
19:14:13 <diebot> Mekkis, Guide to the Pathfinder Society Organised Play, available at http://paizo.com/products/btpy84k4
19:16:03 <Steven> hey mekkis...
19:16:24 <Steven> +2CL for Necromancy spells +2 DC for Necromancy Spells +4CL for Chill touch...
19:17:20 <Steven> lets hear it! how munchkin is that shit!
19:24:11 <Steven> Next level i will switch the spell to Vampiric Touch
19:24:35 <Steven> 4d6 damage to them and 4d6 Temp HP for me.
19:37:16 <Avatar> if anyone ever says can I sit in and watch to see how the game goes
19:37:22 <Avatar> the answer should always be that is a very bad idea
19:37:26 <Avatar> watching a game is never fun
19:37:35 <Avatar> it actually makes the game look bad
19:37:53 <Steven> I always encourage people to sit and play, because they are going to watch they might as well participate.
19:38:33 <Avatar> yeah
19:39:30 <Steven> BURB!
20:28:33 <HTT-Bird> o/ Goya
20:33:05 <Avatar> I should use bear traps more often with my archaeologist
20:33:11 <Avatar> that would be a great way to get some damage done
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20:38:35 <CWheezy> sup ballers
20:38:42 <CWheezy> avatar have you decided how to fix your bard
20:38:49 <Avatar> no idea
20:38:56 <Avatar> I was waiting on steven's feedback and he didn't give me anyw
20:38:57 <Avatar> -w
20:38:58 <CWheezy> maybe you should wait until management realizes how dumb the retraining costs are
20:39:18 <Avatar> that has crossed my mind, but they only just introduced it, so I see that being at least a year off
20:39:26 <CWheezy> WHAT
20:39:30 <Avatar> too many people are opposed to retraining at all
20:39:37 <Avatar> it's not like there's an uproar
20:40:10 <CWheezy> well you can obviously discount those people
20:40:25 <CWheezy> retraining seems required for games like this
20:40:34 <Avatar> mike is in the habit of listening to them and not to me :P
20:40:38 <CWheezy> In fact, it is better flavour for characters to change as they grow
20:40:52 <CWheezy> those people want their charcters to be stone blocks or whatever
20:40:58 <CWheezy> ALSO they probably would not use the retraining at all
20:41:04 <Avatar> yeah you're preaching to the choir
20:41:05 <CWheezy> they are just sad other people are having fun or whatever
20:45:05 <Avatar> it's just because the munchkins are ruining other people's fun
20:45:15 <Avatar> retraining hp seems strange
20:45:35 <CWheezy> yeah I will agree that is weird
20:53:42 <Avatar> he did say it costs 3 prestige per hp so why would you, which makes sense
20:54:15 <CWheezy> it is just a weird concept overall
20:54:36 <Avatar> it's just mini-toughness
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20:59:29 <Avatar> Ripley roll up a character
21:16:07 <Brunius> what's this about retraining?
21:27:32 <Avatar> you can retrain feats and levels and whatnot now
21:27:41 <Avatar> costs prestige
21:27:47 <Avatar> do you know 5.0 of the PFS guide is out
21:28:47 <CWheezy> aww man rollin up characters
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21:36:05 <Mekkis> not now
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21:36:09 <Mekkis> next week
21:43:42 <Avatar> no now
21:48:36 <Darkkapow> it's out not effective until the 14th
21:48:57 <CWheezy> man I wanna pay in that way of the wicked
21:49:45 <Avatar> yeah but as long as you don't use the character before the 14th you are safe
21:53:48 <Ultio> WotW is fun
21:55:37 <CWheezy> I think that game is super full though
21:56:20 <Mekkis> there is a slot
21:56:24 <Mekkis> PM me for details
21:56:35 <Avatar> it's in the last act though
21:56:41 <Mekkis> of book 1
21:56:52 <Mekkis> there is more than one book...
21:57:12 <CWheezy> 6
21:57:28 <CWheezy> I am actually planning on gming it
21:57:35 <CWheezy> within a few months
21:57:44 <Mekkis> have you read it?
21:58:04 <Avatar> we have been playing it for more than a few months
21:58:06 <CWheezy> yes :(
21:58:29 <CWheezy> its fine if you say no
21:58:36 <CWheezy> I decided it was worth it to "eat it" per say
21:59:05 <Avatar> being at the end of the book, it might not be awful for you to join if you've already read it
22:01:04 <CWheezy> yeah especially because of HRRM HRMM HRMM
22:01:14 <Mekkis> CWheezy, PM
22:18:31 <Ripley> it is what it is
22:23:54 <Ultio> I made it to the opening of book four
22:24:05 <Ultio> so if you get there and still have a slot let me know!
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23:24:39 <Ultio> Hey Hey Hey
23:31:16 <Brunius> it's always darkest, just before the dawwn
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