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00:00 <Avatar> it's a roll they're entitled to have, and you're making them actively do something to even know about the rule when they shouldn't have to
00:09 <Spaceshot> I got the sheet, confused about the items found part
00:31 <Avatar> hardcore players can try 'something' if you know they know the rule
00:34 <Mekkis> they're not entitled to it
00:38 <Avatar> but casual players will just be fucked over
00:42 <Avatar> yes they are, it's in the book
00:43 <Mekkis> it's an option
00:44 <Spaceshot> also, the total gold part is wrong, should be 434.76
00:58 <Ballig> it's an option that their character, realistically, should be aware of
01:00 <Ballig> even if their player isn't
01:05 <Ballig> (this is assuming they have survival skill)
01:17 <Mekkis> is survival trained-only?
01:20 <Avatar> it's like saying adding your dex to your acrobatics is an option
01:23 <Avatar> no
01:23 <Spaceshot> don't believe so
01:37 <Ballig> survival isn't trained only, but my point is that although anyone can do it, someone who is trained in survival should be more aware than anyone else
02:03 <Avatar> survival is wis anyway
02:15 <Avatar> by definition it means you should be aware enough of it to do something about it
03:04 <Spaceshot> try again
03:04 <Ballig> Spaceshot: those are the items you found during the scenario. you don't get to keep them, you gave them to the society
03:07 <Spaceshot> I had the file open
03:21 <Ballig> basically they are added to your "always available" list of items you can buy
03:26 <Spaceshot> ohh
03:27 <Ballig> and you don't need to consider fame if you want to purchase them
03:32 <Spaceshot> ahh
03:36 <Spaceshot> mmk that makes sense
03:55 <Ballig> good because Avatar and I were confused about that for a while too
03:55 <Ballig> :p
04:15 <Spaceshot> so I can buy a half charge magic missile wand
04:17 <Spaceshot> interesting
04:28 <Spaceshot> now I want to change my favoured class to wiz :P
04:36 <Avatar> yeah I love how they have those there
04:39 <Spaceshot> or bard
04:43 <Spaceshot> both are better than rogue
04:44 <Ballig> yeah, half charge wands are good
04:47 <Ballig> you can't buy those otherwise
05:12 <Avatar> might even be worth getting mellon one of those 
05:18 <Avatar> did I play that with mellon
05:28 <Avatar> yeah we used our wizards didn't we
06:08 <Spaceshot> so that shit was on the kobold druid/wiz was it?
06:10 <Mekkis> the Pirate one has the half-charge CL3 magic missile wand
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07:28 <Spaceshot> wow...
07:40 <Spaceshot> the name of th First Steps 3 would of given it away
07:46 <Ballig> yep
08:13 <Spaceshot> are all scenarios that blatently obvious?
08:18 <Ballig> Avatar: we used both our wizards, from memory
08:35 <Avatar> yeah that's fortunate
08:36 <Ballig> some scenarios you have suspicions
08:52 <Spaceshot> no I mean do the names give away shit usually
09:06 <Ballig> not usually
09:11 <Avatar> uh, yes they do
09:15 <Avatar> usually
09:17 <Ballig> do you think?
09:24 <Avatar> how about "the darkest vengeance"
09:30 <Avatar> what do you think will be used in that scenario
09:33 <Ballig> it's a very dark vengeance
09:35 <Ballig> does voice in the void give it away
09:42 <Avatar> voice in the void doesn't
09:43 <Mekkis> what about The Asmodeus Mirage?
09:47 <Ballig> what about citadel of flame
09:57 <Ballig> assault on the kingdom of impossible
10:00 <Mekkis> To Delve the Dungeon Deep
10:02 <Avatar> there are some that do 
10:04 <Ballig> haha
10:07 <Mekkis> Ballig, that one makes sense
10:08 <Ballig> there are of course some that do
10:10 <Ballig> but "not usually"
10:26 <Mekkis> (once you know what The Kingdom of The Impossible is)
11:05 <Ballig> my cleric gets to level up
11:12 <Avatar> getting a cold when it's spring weather in summer, sucks
11:15 <Mekkis> what level now?
11:23 <Avatar> 2
11:26 <Ballig> yeah 2
11:52 <Spaceshot> avatar, on toro's sheet that I'm basically using as a updating point, where should I put racial shit?
11:54 <Avatar> every second level sucks even more with a cleric than it does with a wizard, because you don't even get extra spells
12:00 <Avatar> misc bonuses
12:03 <Ballig> Spaceshot: use one of my sheets !
12:11 <Avatar> (he's joking)
12:23 <Ballig> no way
12:25 <Ballig> my sheets are awesome
12:34 <Avatar> unless you want to deal with bb code all over the place
12:42 <Ballig> which you would, ofc
12:54 <Avatar> I don't think I want to and I even know what it means
13:04 <Avatar> I want it to look as good
13:08 <Mekkis> In Service of Lore
13:24 <Avatar> some scenarios there's nothing to give away
13:28 <Ballig> the headings are easy to add
13:32 <Ballig> because you don't change what's inside them
13:33 <Avatar> actually I guess there sort of is in first steps 1
13:43 <Avatar> could've been called The Watchers or something
14:08 <Ballig> level 2 cleric isn't bad
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14:16 <Avatar> yes it is, what are you talking about
14:22 <Ballig> +1 BAB, +1 fort, +1 will, +1 orison, +1 level one spell
14:33 <Avatar> that's like the minimum any class gets at a level
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14:41 <Ballig> no it's not
14:45 <Avatar> `op
15:04 <Avatar> show me a class that gets less
15:26 <Ballig> druid going from level 4 to 5
15:35 <Spaceshot> you have all the skills in your sheet avatar?
15:37 <Ballig> they get +1 third level spell, that's it
15:40 <Avatar> yeah
15:50 <Spaceshot> but they learn, ALL 3rd level spells
15:53 <Spaceshot> that's a big jump
16:02 <Avatar> yeah exactly
16:17 <Spaceshot> being able to cast at a whole knew level beats a few +1s
16:22 <Avatar> better to have a new level of spells open to you than those 5 things
16:42 <Spaceshot> yup
17:12 <Ballig> it's not "minimum", it's "average"
17:21 <Avatar> you could argue at druid level 18 to 19 all they get is +1 BAB and 1 extra 9th level slot
17:25 <Ballig> hell, wizard gets less
17:29 <Avatar> but by then the point is a bit moot
17:35 <Ballig> wizard gets +1 BAB, +1 will, +1 0th level +1 1st level
17:41 <Ballig> so they get exactly the same as clerics but without the +1 fort
17:53 <Avatar> no, they get 2 extra spells as well
18:00 <Ballig> they get the same as a cleric
18:02 <Avatar> clerics already have the full list
18:06 <Avatar> so they gain nothing
18:07 <Ballig> oh, that
18:11 <Ballig> that's only worth 50 gold
18:29 <Avatar> more than that to put in your book
18:47 <Ballig> sorry, 70 gold once you put them in the book
18:54 <Spaceshot> I may of been unkowningly cheating with my AC
18:56 <Avatar> the cleric still doesn't get those 2 free spells
18:57 <Ballig> in fact what you're saying is that clerics are OP because they get all their spells to start
19:01 <Spaceshot> trying to find out where the +1 dodge comes from
19:01 <Avatar> where's the cleric's 70gp of stuff
19:03 <Ballig> you are in fact counterproductive to your point
19:14 <Ballig> the cleric gets +1 fort
19:19 <Ballig> that's worth 333 gold
19:29 <Ballig> (1/3 of a cloak of resistance)
20:40 <Spaceshot> I must of had dodge at one stage, and now I don't
20:57 <Ballig> tch
21:01 <Ballig> let's go back, you get hit and die
21:08 <Spaceshot> hey, I did make the character 2 and a half months ago
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21:18 <Spaceshot> and hadn't looked at it since
21:18 <Mekkis> suggest some good feats
21:25 <Spaceshot> what level?
21:26 <Mekkis> for a cleric
21:31 <Avatar> toughness
21:33 <Ballig> fleet
21:34 <Mekkis> I need three feats
21:40 <Mekkis> hehe
21:41 <Mekkis> no
21:43 <Avatar> scorpion strike
21:49 <Spaceshot> spell focus
21:59 <Mekkis> spell focus what?
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22:02 <Avatar> there might be some better feats in ultimate magic
22:06 <Avatar> that are less common than usual
22:10 <Spaceshot> insert channel based feats
22:16 <Avatar> surely there is, because that book seems useless
22:22 <Ballig> life lure
22:23 <Mekkis> with 8 charisma, I doubt it
22:26 <Spaceshot> subjective channeling (the one that you can choose targets who you channel to)
22:30 <Mekkis> !feat life lure
22:34 <Ballig> selective
22:34 <Avatar> oh, SELECTIVE CHANNELLING
22:40 <Avatar> extra channeling
22:42 <Ballig> life lure uses a channel to fascinate undead
22:46 <Avatar> those are top notch feats
22:50 <Avatar> get used every game
22:52 <Spaceshot> ballig, another cha dump cleric
22:55 <Mekkis> with 8 cha, I doubt it
22:57 <Spaceshot> tisk tisk
23:06 <Mekkis> what's wrong with that
23:08 <Ballig> he can't use selective chaneling with 8 charisma
23:11 <Ballig> he's a combat cleric
23:13 <Ballig> not a healer
23:18 <Mekkis> the second most important stat for a cleric is str
23:26 <Ballig> if you are a combat cleric
23:35 <Spaceshot> why not just be an oracle then?
23:35 <Avatar> you can't use either of those two feats if you have an 8 cha
23:39 <Ballig> you can't just say "blah blah stat is important for ALL characters of X class"
23:40 <Spaceshot> they're better at combat clericness
23:43 <Avatar> yeah oracle does seem a better choice
23:43 <Ballig> because people might play them differently
23:52 <Spaceshot> battle oracle is better
23:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, but oracle's a spell level behind
24:03 <Ballig> he doesn't like spontaneous casters
24:04 <Avatar> oh is it
24:08 <Ballig> because they get a new level of spells a level later
24:12 <Ballig> so they have to be level four to get level 2 spells
24:15 <Avatar> fu
24:17 <Spaceshot> yea they do lose out on that
24:20 <Spaceshot> but you'll live
24:23 <Avatar> I didn't notice oracles are behind a spell level
24:43 <Mekkis> Jäger was a sorcerer
24:43 <Spaceshot> they are, but they make it up with their mystery ability
24:44 <Ballig> yeah so are sorcerers
24:45 <Spaceshot> and spontaneous
25:05 <Spaceshot> battle oracle is a good combat cleric
25:08 <Mekkis> Nameless One was a Spirit Shaman
25:36 <Avatar> there's a feat called quick channel which lets you channel faster with 2 channels instead of 1
25:42 <Spaceshot> they get martial weapon prof and heavy armour prof for 1 revelation
25:46 <Spaceshot> which can be a feat
25:48 <Mekkis> screw channelling
25:50 <Spaceshot> which is a good price
26:00 <Spaceshot> go oracle then
26:01 <Ballig> Avatar: he's not looking to heal
26:04 <Spaceshot> if you can change class
26:06 <Ballig> he's looking to maximise his combat effectiveness
26:15 <Mekkis> not really
26:17 <Avatar> spell specialisation
26:21 <Ballig> I wouldn't be surprised if he's neutral so he can channel negative energy
26:23 <Avatar> if you are taking spell focus as well and have int 13
26:23 <Ballig> and not heal at all with channels
26:28 <Mekkis> nope
26:34 <Avatar> what are your stats
26:40 <Ballig> probably 16 strength
26:44 <Ballig> 16 or 18 wisdom
26:52 <Mekkis> 14/12/14/10/18/8
26:59 <Mekkis> (starting stats)
27:06 <Spaceshot> go oracle
27:10 <Spaceshot> you'll get a better return
27:14 <Avatar> so high str, con, wis
27:15 <Mekkis> no
27:20 <Spaceshot> yes
27:34 <Avatar> you might be better off going for fighter feats
27:41 <Spaceshot> wow so you can do 1, maybe 2 sweet spells a day
27:47 <Spaceshot> if you planned ahead
27:49 <Ballig> those were starting stats, not necessarily modified by race
28:17 <Mekkis> sorry for not powergaming enough, Spaceshot 
28:45 <Spaceshot> you are powergaming going combat cleric
28:45 <Avatar> if you want to get the spell levels, cleric is still the better choice
28:53 <Mekkis> how so Spaceshot?
28:53 <Avatar> I mean there's no question
28:58 <Spaceshot> if you want the spells, you might as well also want the channels
28:58 <Ballig> going combat cleric isn't powergaming
29:02 <Ballig> that's just the vision he has for that character
29:08 <Spaceshot> even if it's selective negative
29:10 <Mekkis> 14 strength isn't exactly "combat"
29:22 <Avatar> the channels change the stat cost drastically
29:22 <Ballig> in the same way he can't say that healing with a cleric is a waste, you can't say that going combat cleric is powergaming
29:23 <Mekkis> it's more "relevant in combat"
29:31 <Avatar> the rest of the stat setup is pretty solid
29:37 <Ballig> Mekkis: I use the phrase combat cleric to mean a cleric who focuses on being effective in combat (as opposed to healing)
29:44 <Mekkis> oh
29:45 <Ballig> not necessarily "melee cleric"
29:48 <Spaceshot> which selective negative does the same
29:52 <Mekkis> I'm not focusing on that
29:56 <Spaceshot> and I believe is a better choice
30:03 <Mekkis> and screw channelling
30:04 <Avatar> clerics also get the spontaneous casting which might make up for it anyway
30:13 <Ballig> I've kept a party alive with channels
30:17 <Spaceshot> spontaneous healing
30:22 <Avatar> yeah, same
30:27 <Avatar> like say, when goblins bombed us
30:29 <Avatar> from the rafters
30:34 <Avatar> because we didn't look up there
31:26 <Spaceshot> haha
31:29 <Avatar> also we didn't have a flying mount and a guy with a reach weapon on it so attacking them was quite difficult
31:32 <Spaceshot> I see what you did thar
31:50 <Mekkis> ah
32:00 <Mekkis> so you're saying that the DM didn't prompt you to look up there?
32:13 <Avatar> we normally wouldn't have
32:17 <Spaceshot> why would they?
32:19 <Avatar> because we had no forewarning of it
32:27 <Spaceshot> supposedly someone did XD
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33:04 <Ballig> perception kind of abstracts that
33:15 <Ballig> is there a rule that a DM should be prompting them about in that situation Mekkis?
33:20 <Ballig> or COULD prompt them about?
33:21 <Mekkis> no
33:30 <Mekkis> but we were talking about that before
33:42 <Ballig> there's a specific rule about survival and cold weather
33:47 <Ballig> is there a specific rule about "looking up"
34:06 <Ballig> I would suggest the prompt there is "you can roll perception"
34:12 <Mekkis> there is a specific rule about looking again
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34:27 <Ballig> yes there is
34:35 <Mekkis> I thought that survival and cold weather thing was in the mod, not in the rulebook
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34:48 <Avatar> there's actually no rule in the book about what perception would be required to see them
34:49 <Ballig> it's in the rules on cold weather
35:04 <Ballig> Avatar: they would have a stealth skill
35:07 <Avatar> probably because the author didn't think people would say "I look up in the rafters"
35:09 <Ballig> it would be opposed stealth/perception
35:16 <Ballig> you don't have to look up to see things on the roof
35:19 <Ballig> that's what perception is
35:28 <Avatar> yeah, their stealth skill is through the roof
35:28 <Mekkis> you mean crack adventurers don't do that sort of thing?
35:31 <Ballig> if you roll really high that just means you were really observant
35:46 <Mekkis> I thought that the top-down approach was common
35:49 <Ballig> in the same way that you don't necessarily have to do something /specific/ with survival to get the bonus
35:51 <Avatar> how many scenarios have you played where you get attacked from the roof
35:53 <Ballig> you abstract it with the skill roll
35:56 <Avatar> by surprise
36:01 <Ballig> two
36:04 <Mekkis> four? five?
36:05 <Ballig> that I can think of
36:08 <Avatar> I can think of 1
36:12 <Ballig> you can think of two
36:20 <Avatar> notice me the other
36:47 <Avatar> okay, 2
37:10 <Ballig> anyway, it would still be perception vs. stealth
37:15 <Ballig> and if their stealth is high enough you wouldn't be able to see them
37:19 <Ballig> even if you looked up at the rafters
37:36 <Avatar> I don't know what kind of bonuses that would afford them
37:50 <Ballig> it would afford them a perception roll
38:02 <Avatar> I think it was like DC 30 for you guys and you still made it
38:08 <Ballig> you can walk into a room and have a perception roll, and if you then specifically "look up" you can make a second perception roll
38:12 <Ballig> (using the "Try again" rules for that skill)
38:29 <Avatar> I think the try again rules let you try as often as you want
38:33 <Ballig> right
38:37 <Ballig> but you have to spend a move action
38:47 <Avatar> so what would've happened if you failed
38:52 <Spaceshot> avatar: Toro's CMD is wrong, he has +2 dex not +1
38:53 <Ballig> you wouldn't notice them
38:54 <Avatar> i'd hear mekkis say " I check again"
38:56 <Ballig> they'd be hiding among the rafters
39:01 <Ballig> then he's outright metagaming
39:02 <Avatar> cheers
39:09 <Ballig> that's why you often do perception rolls
39:12 <Avatar> he was outright metagaming anyway
39:12 <Ballig> er
39:14 <Ballig> hidden perception rolls
39:20 <Ballig> so they don't know if they failed or there just isn't something there
39:26 <Mekkis> I've never said "I check again" after rolling a perception check
39:33 <Ballig> if you roll perception and get a 2, so you decide to do it again because you think there's something there, it's hard to argue you aren't metagaming
39:47 <Spaceshot> perception rolls, at least I believe, should be generally hidden, characters can't percieve how well they succeed in seeing something or not
40:07 <Avatar> Mekkis: I've gotta say man, I wouldn't have put it past you to do it
40:31 <Mekkis> the only time I would do that is if I'm searching a room
40:48 <Mekkis> (and you don't want to let me take 20)
41:23 <Avatar> the point is that what happened was already beyond the point of too much metagame as it was
42:21 <Ballig> it was pretty obvious
49:41 <Spaceshot> avatar: check all your dex based stuff
49:49 <Spaceshot> I think you might need to change a bunch, such as skills
50:40 <Avatar> just acrobatics
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51:00 <Avatar> I changed a couple of stats around last-minute
51:00 <Spaceshot> and stealth
51:04 <Avatar> hey night owl
51:20 <Avatar> stealth is right?
51:42 <Spaceshot> wait... you have AC penalty
51:45 <Spaceshot> that's why your shit is off
51:50 <Spaceshot> nvm XD
51:59 <Avatar> man I have combat reflexes
51:59 <Ballig> yeah he can't afford mithral yet
52:00 <Spaceshot> I have same stats as you, but no armour penalty
52:02 <Avatar> I'd best remember that
52:09 <Ballig> Avatar: yeah, Mekkis won't remind you
52:10 <Ballig> ;)
52:11 <Spaceshot> why combat reflexes?
52:17 <Ballig> so he can get two AOOs a round
52:19 <Ballig> instead of one
52:21 <Avatar> because I have a reach weapon and sneak attack
52:25 <Spaceshot> so?
52:26 <Avatar> can make a huge difference
52:30 <Spaceshot> is it threatening reach?
52:40 <Avatar> what's threatening reach
52:43 <Spaceshot> XD
52:49 <Avatar> it threatens, yes
52:54 <Ballig> he can get an AOO with it
52:59 <Spaceshot> at 10ft?
53:01 <Ballig> yes
53:04 <Spaceshot> really?
53:06 <Avatar> yeah
53:06 <Ballig> yes?
53:12 <Ballig> why wouldnt' he?
53:17 <Avatar> I don't threaten at 5ft
53:28 <Avatar> but the point is there's more flanking opportunities
53:41 <Avatar> = more sneak opportunities = much more damage
53:45 <Ballig> how does combat reflexes increase flanking
53:57 <Avatar> more opportunities for it
54:01 <Avatar> the circle's bigger
54:09 <Ballig> you mean with the reach?
54:15 <Avatar> yeah
54:15 <Spaceshot> you can't attack against someone next to you, gotcha
54:46 <Ballig> my cavalier has reach
54:50 <Ballig> and he can attack next to him
54:57 <Avatar> how
55:02 <Ballig> his wolf
55:04 <Spaceshot> cause he's mounted
55:11 <Avatar> yeah the cavalier isn't attacking
55:13 <Avatar> the wolf is
55:17 <Spaceshot> that too
55:19 <Ballig> the wolf is part of me
55:19 <Avatar> get it right
55:28 <Ballig> I'm fused to it
55:32 <Avatar> are you
55:35 <Avatar> like a synthesist summoner
55:38 <Ballig> yes
55:40 <Ballig> like a synthesist summoner
55:46 <Avatar> does your wolf give you +21 to trip
55:47 <Spaceshot> no
55:51 <Ballig> yes
55:52 <Ballig> it does
55:57 <Spaceshot> he doesn't get a bullshit +8 to a skill
56:33 <Spaceshot> can I flank attack with a bow using point blank master?
57:22 <Ballig> which rulebook
57:31 <Spaceshot> APG has point blank master
58:13 <Ballig> er, no
58:14 <Avatar> there's nothing in that wording that mentions flanking man
58:28 <Avatar> that's like asking does dodge allow you a +1 to will save as well
58:29 <Ballig> that just prevents you attracting AOOs while firing
58:33 <Ballig> haha
58:36 <Ballig> that's a good one
59:04 <Ballig> it's maybe slightly more relevant than that
59:08 <Ballig> I'd have said +1 reflex
59:43 <Spaceshot> bah, melee attacks only
59:50 <Spaceshot> lowers my want to do rogue
00:20 <Ballig> a ranged rogue has to find some kind of concealment to sneak attack
01:03 <Avatar> yeah but you had more time to think about it
01:26 <Avatar> I don't really trust snipe sneak attacking
01:42 <Spaceshot> eh
01:49 <Spaceshot> heh*
01:49 <Ballig> it's safer for the rogue, but far less likely to damage
01:49 <Spaceshot> mmm
01:59 <Spaceshot> I wouldn't mind finding a way to sneak attack with a flurry of bows though
02:16 <Spaceshot> though a flanking monk/rogue can do some good damage
02:21 <Spaceshot> 17monk/3rogue
22:38 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 31st 10.30am (Brunius, continued game) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net/
22:38 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Fri Dec 30 18:19:14 2011
22:38 <***> Buffer Playback...
22:38 <***> Playback Complete.
22:38 <Avatar> she is a night owl
22:43 <Avatar> mort doesn't suck blood
23:22 <Spaceshot> could be a psychic vampire
25:29 <Spaceshot> my character sheet is up
25:38 <Spaceshot> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=310
25:40 <Spaceshot> and I'm going to bed
25:44 <Spaceshot> cya all
28:25 <Avatar> gg
28:37 <Avatar> play more PFS, spaceshot
28:48 <Avatar> you were good tonight
28:56 <Mort> oh gosh
29:02 <Mort> I am NOT a vampire :P
29:06 <Mort> and Im not a night owl
29:09 <Mort> lol I just loginat night
29:10 <Ballig> you are a vampire owl
29:11 <Mort> after werrk
29:12 <Avatar> you are a night owl
29:14 <Mort> eeeee
29:21 <Mort> actually I have light vampire capabilities
29:23 <Mort> I hate raw garlic
29:29 <Ballig> everybody hates raw garlic
29:30 <Mort> I ate that stuff once..made me sick :D
29:34 <Avatar> haha
29:40 <Avatar> do you have a video
29:40 <Mort> its supposed tobe good for bloodpressure/choelestrol
29:42 <Mort> cant remmebe which
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29:59 <Ballig> people think that anything that tastes terrible is good for you
30:01 <Avatar> do it again and make a video of it so we can see what happens
30:30 <Ballig> haha
31:01 <Mort> no thanks
31:04 <Mort> it made me feel so sick
31:10 <Mort> anyway I have a pointed canine in RL :P
31:15 <Mort> like a vampyre fang :)
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07:18 <Spaceshot> they're nicely and equally balanced
07:22 <Spaceshot> that is why it is boring as fuck XD
07:29 <Avatar> it might be worth going for power attack / cleave
07:37 <Spaceshot> I'm tempting the ranged power attack
08:07 <Spaceshot> since precise shot + ranged power attack could be good
08:20 <Avatar> Ballig: check out death from above in ultimate combat
08:34 <Spaceshot> that's if you're 10ft or more above right?
08:55 <Avatar> what's ranged power attack
08:57 <Ballig> Avatar: I already get +5 when charging from higher ground
09:05 <Ballig> deadly aim is ranged power attack
09:12 <Spaceshot> deadly aim that's it
09:22 <Spaceshot> keep forgetting since I rarely make ranged specific characters
09:34 <Avatar> is it cumulative?
09:52 <Mort> lol
09:54 <Ballig> I imagine it would be
09:55 <Mort> is that my new nick?
09:56 <Mort> night owl
10:02 <Ballig> basically it would give me +2 to attack while charging on a mount
10:22 <Avatar> yeah that's your new name
10:31 <Avatar> congratulations
12:29 <Spaceshot> does ninja count as rogue for favoured class?
14:44 <Mort> :(
14:46 <Mort> Im a mouse lemur
14:49 <Mort> not a night owl :D
16:03 <Ballig> you're a lemure?
18:12 <Avatar> talking about the tengu earlier made me think maybe I do want to play a tengu
18:30 <Avatar> any character with a -2 racial con mod is a bit shit though
19:18 <Avatar> I'm not sure they're all that different to elves though
19:48 <Avatar> +2 wis instead of +2 int
19:55 <Avatar> they both get low light vision
20:02 <Spaceshot> I keep forgetting, tab fucks up on ballig's site
20:30 <Avatar> tengus get a bonus to stealth in addition to both race's bonus to perception
20:59 <Avatar> aside from that, they get a bite attack, are proficient with swords, and can pick up a hell of a lot of languages
21:14 <Avatar> I can't even really think of a class that suits that kind of skillset
21:22 <Avatar> you are a night owl
21:25 <Avatar> rogue?
21:41 <Avatar> cmon mort you come in every night past midnight and try to dispute that you are not a night owl
21:48 <Avatar> you're never ever in during the day
21:53 <Avatar> maybe monk
22:00 <Spaceshot> maybe he's a vampire
22:09 <Ballig> tengu is okay for cleric
22:42 <Avatar> yeah maybe cleric
22:48 <Ballig> the bite is okay for rogue
22:52 <Ballig> can you sneak attack with a bite
22:53 <Avatar> maybe a cleric/rogue
23:04 <Avatar> I guess so
23:11 <Avatar> it's a melee attack
23:11 <Ballig> that's two sneak attacks a round at level 1
23:24 <Avatar> how do you figure that
23:31 <Ballig> bite + weapon
23:49 <Avatar> do you normally get 2 sneak attacks when you're 2 weapon fighting?
23:56 <Ballig> if you are flanking, sure
24:03 <Avatar> shit
34:20 <Avatar> `op
34:20 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
34:26 * Avatar removes voice from Avatar Brunius
35:29 <Ballig> deop me
45:43 <Avatar> deop yourself
46:28 <Ballig> I forgot the command
49:55 <Avatar> `deop
49:55 * ChanOP removes channel operator status from Avatar
59:03 <Avatar> 4am and I'm still not tired, this is working out well
02:19 <Ballig> yeah I'm not tired either
19:26 <Avatar> if I don't show up on time for the game, sms/call once, and if that doesn't wake me, go without me
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43:25 <tristen> ahar me hearties
44:46 <tristen> i'm around if we're gaming on
44:50 <tristen> (back and forth)
52:48 <Mekkis> moin
59:31 <Avatar> yo
03:15 <tristen> hey what scenario was that being played last night?
03:21 <tristen> wbg?
03:49 <tristen> i didn't want to read it too much in case i hadn't played it
03:56 <tristen> but it looked bloody funny
04:36 <Avatar> first steps 3
09:05 <tristen> oh? how did they go in the pub?
09:51 <tristen> or did they use powers of meta-gaming to see their way through?
11:36 <Avatar> worse than we did
11:55 <Avatar> the 3 of them were blinded and I got greased with one of the blinded guys
12:56 <tristen> greased as in killed or greased as in magic?
13:13 <Avatar> as in magic
13:16 <Avatar> we fell to the floor
13:27 <tristen> grud
13:40 <tristen> yeah i remember the sequence now
13:48 <tristen> blind, grease, shatter, gone
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17:15 <Ballig> Brunius_: there's a party in my pants and i need you to RSVP by Wednesday
18:04 <Ballig> Avatar: impressed that you were awake so early
18:17 <Ballig> I woke up literally 5 seconds before my alarm went off
18:31 <Ballig> thinking "oh, it's not yet 10, maybe I'll just get up and do some programming before the game. oh... it is 10..."
26:27 <Avatar> I actually pulled myself out of bed when I woke up and my phone said it was almost 10
26:36 <Avatar> then I looked at the topic and realised I could've had another 20 minutes
27:11 <Mekkis> oh
27:17 <Mekkis> time for breakfast and coffee
28:42 <Ballig> haha
29:27 <tristen> i'll second that
31:22 <Avatar> I'll harass brunius
31:43 <Avatar> although yesterday he didn't get my sms until the afternoon somehow
38:11 <Avatar> seems to me that buying a bunch of scrolls before you buy a pearl of power is a better option
39:35 <Ballig> well, scrolls are a consumable, whereas a pearl of power isn't
39:52 <Ballig> but second level spell scrolls are something you can't really get from a pearl of power until you have a bunch of fame and 4k to burn
44:17 <Avatar> yeah but you don't know what spells you're going to burn and if you never use them, it's no issue
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44:30 <Avatar> and it's not like you need the high level for them
44:38 <Avatar> Brunius: did you get my sms
44:42 <Brunius> Nope
44:46 <Avatar> what's going on with your phone
44:58 <Brunius> Reception around here is crap man
45:57 <tristen> ballig: you're not going to be happy with me
46:08 <Avatar> what did you do
46:09 <Brunius> What's it say Avatar
46:14 <Avatar> it says wake up
46:22 <Ballig> tristen: hm?
46:25 <tristen> the message where you told me how much gold i had (not counting the mw comp longbow)
46:26 Mort has quit (Quit: )
46:31 <tristen> i didn't write it down
46:36 <tristen> can you recall?
46:43 <Ballig> I sent you your chronicle sheets over skype
46:46 <Ballig> it's all there
46:50 <tristen> oh! ok
46:52 <Ballig> just check out Tasiv5.pdf or whatever the last one is
46:57 <Ballig> and it'll tell you what your final gold total is
47:00 <tristen> ja, excellent - thank you for that
47:42 Ballig is now known as Bobbob
47:44 <tristen> hey i have another friend who may be interested in playing too
47:48 <tristen> not today
47:52 <Brunius> Is Mekkis around?
47:56 <Mekkis> sort of
47:57 <tristen> but soonish i think...
48:02 Bobbob gives channel operator status to Brunius
48:02 Bobbob gives voice to Mekkis Avatar tristen Bobbob
48:02 * Bobbob removes channel operator status from Bobbob
48:07 tristen is now known as Tasiv
48:39 Avatar is now known as Cairo
49:08 <Tasiv> hey who was "hashish" last night?
49:11 <Brunius> You were in the room, talking to the formerly chaine dup prisoners
49:16 <Cairo> new guy who popped in
49:22 <Tasiv> too funny
49:32 <Cairo> yeah until he quit on us mid-game
49:35 <Bobbob> are we not skyping
49:36 <Tasiv> no way?
49:41 <Cairo> yeap
49:54 <Tasiv> that's not cricket
49:59 <Tasiv> anyhoo
50:23 <Cairo> we were talking to these 4 yohos
50:31 <Brunius> 3
50:33 <Cairo> I don't recall getting any useful information out of them though
50:45 <Cairo> we healed them and they kept talking about Her
50:54 <Bobbob> he got all sulky and said he was leaving because Avatar thought he was being serious when he said he wanted to steal all of Avatar's character's stuff while it was unconscious
50:55 <Cairo> I don't know if you guys got more out of it than I did
51:00 <Bobbob> and Avatar's trying to explain that he can't do that in PFS
51:08 <Bobbob> so he's all "OH, WAVING THE RULES IN MY FACE? YEAH i'M OUT OF HERE"
51:22 <Bobbob> Avarar, Mekkis - not on skype?
51:26 <Tasiv> ah i see: a mental age of 2, possibly 3.
51:39 <Cairo> I even made a point to tell him I was just explaining it out so that he understood what he couldn't do
51:46 <Tasiv> no loss
51:52 <Cairo> yeah
52:01 <Tasiv> you don't want that shit no way
52:02 <Cairo> I can listen in on skype, no talking
52:09 <Cairo> he was being a child
52:54 <Brunius> HP?
52:55 <Cairo> tristen don't you use linux
53:05 <Cairo> so how come you run it fine and mekkis doesn't
53:43 <Tasiv> 16/16
53:48 <Cairo> 27/27
53:49 <Bobbob> 43/43
54:19 <Cairo> I usually record hp and AC on my sidebar, so that's how I'll give out my stats
54:30 <Cairo> the end of it
54:31 <Deceased> 26/26
54:40 <Cairo> AC 19
54:46 <Cairo> fucking around 
54:58 <Cairo> no reception
55:28 <Cairo> what is this room again?
56:11 <Cairo> oooo 
56:23 <Cairo> I'm torn between going up this thing and exploring
56:39 <Brunius> Grabbing tissues
56:43 <Brunius> Anyone can get up there
56:50 <Brunius> It's no problem, it's a huge shaft
56:52 <Cairo> my logic says explore but my excitement says go up!
57:02 <Deceased> I'll remain in the room to the south for a little longer
57:03 <Cairo> hahahha
57:23 <Cairo> yep
57:32 <Cairo> we'll save the best for last !
57:47 <Cairo> they are clearly stairways
57:52 <Cairo> up
58:06 <Cairo> does that shaft go down as well
58:14 <Cairo> or is this the bottom level
58:14 <Tasiv> "who has the pearl-thing?"
58:21 <Tasiv> "which of us i mean?"
58:29 <Cairo> not me
58:37 <Cairo> maybe I should have it
58:50 <Tasiv> "that's a good idea"
59:16 <Bobbob> pretty sure deceased took it
59:55 <Deceased> yep
00:03 <Cairo> darkvision
00:10 <Cairo> we can get scrolls of it
00:20 <Cairo> are we?
00:32 <Cairo> is there a town nearby
00:40 <Cairo> this is kind of important
00:51 <Cairo> how close is the nearest
00:53 <Tasiv> "well we do have that pass to check out"
01:01 <Cairo> we aren't on the clock are we
01:14 <Tasiv> "and i can deliver those stone tablet things to the dwarves"
01:16 <Deceased> maybe
01:28 <Tasiv> "maybe the dwarves can sell us the shit we need?"
01:45 <Cairo> "This is too important, I don't want to be rendered blind in combat."
01:58 <Tasiv> "torvic: how many days march to deliver the stone tablets?"
02:25 * Cairo strokes his chin
02:26 <Cairo> "A man must dream a long time in order to act with grandeur, and dreaming is nursed in darkness.
02:26 <Cairo> Read more: http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/keywords/darkness.html#ixzz1i493FJli
02:29 <Cairo> oops
02:37 <Cairo> don't click that
02:52 <Brunius> "Oh, several. And I do not wish to leave the Gallery just yet..."
03:00 <Cairo> who said that
03:06 <Cairo> well I can't say
03:07 <Deceased> "Cairo! I didn't know you were a billboard"
03:25 <Cairo> Cairo doesn't understand you and doesn't question further
03:29 <Brunius> Torvic said that
03:32 <Tasiv> no idea
03:46 <Cairo> I am actually usually more careful, but I just woke up on 3 hours sleep
04:43 <Cairo> what's going to happen if we leave against his will
04:46 <Cairo> nothing
04:46 <Cairo> !
04:48 <Bobbob> I'll go up the east stairs
04:55 <Bobbob> !I33
05:30 <Cairo> why are we even bringing him with us
05:32 <Brunius> You're on a walkway above the room
05:32 <Cairo> if he's forgotten 
05:37 <Cairo> he's a liability
05:43 <Tasiv> he has a rusty axe
05:50 <Cairo> and he doesn't want us to leave
05:51 <Cairo> hello?
05:57 <Deceased> he's got darkvision
06:16 <Cairo> Brunius: we need to know how far it is to get scrolls
06:24 <Brunius> A week
06:48 <Brunius> Nothing special about it
06:57 <Bobbob> if I can't go anywhere from the walkway, I'll go back down
07:08 <Bobbob> and assuming the west stairs don't lead to the same walkay, I'll check that out
07:09 <Bobbob> +w
07:13 <Tasiv> "yeah balls to this - there's doors to the west"
07:22 <Brunius> You're on a walkway above the room
07:26 <Bobbob> okay
07:30 <Bobbob> I'll go to the west doors and open them
07:38 <Tasiv> all in formation
07:40 <Deceased> I'll be behind Bobbob
07:51 <Brunius> Yeah
08:24 <Tasiv> me second last, and torvic last
08:27 <Tasiv> ok
08:42 <Bobbob> what do I see when I open the doors
09:17 <Brunius> A corridor!
09:22 <Bobbob> woah!
09:23 <Bobbob> I'll explore it
09:29 <Brunius> How far are you moving?
09:33 <Cairo> uh
09:38 <Cairo> according to the map there is heaps of fungus here
09:46 <Bobbob> I'll move west until I come to the intersection, but if there's a lot of fungus I'll attempt to avoid it
09:50 <Tasiv> slippery?
09:56 <Brunius> Nope
10:01 <Deceased> "Cairo, what do you know about this fungus"?
10:02 <Brunius> Everyone else going with him?
10:13 * Deceased casts guidance on Cairo
10:26 <Cairo> can I use dungeoneering?
10:32 <Tasiv> i'll delay at v18
10:41 <Cairo> can you use guidance with a knowledge skill
10:49 <Deceased> yes
11:06 <Tasiv> v28
11:16 <Cairo> brunius
11:24 <Brunius> Yes?
11:38 <Cairo> can I use knowledge dungeoneering to know anything about the fungus
11:43 <Cairo> and can guidance be used with knowledge
11:58 <Brunius> Guidance can be used with Knowledge, yes
12:18 <Brunius> Roll it
12:30 <Cairo> I've got a 5, take 10 or roll it?
12:32 <Cairo> what do you reckon guys
12:44 <Cairo> righto I'll take 10
13:07 <Brunius> The fungus is all standard fungus, nothing unusual about it
13:20 <Cairo> "It's just fungus. Nothing special."
13:23 <Cairo> waiting for you
13:28 <Cairo> have a good one
13:33 <Tasiv> ok back in formation
13:36 <Cairo> "Someone has to go first.'
13:40 <Bobbob> "It's safe to come."
13:40 * Deceased peers around the room
13:45 <Deceased> looking at the ceiling 
13:47 <Deceased> :)
13:49 <Bobbob> I'll go check out that bench southwest
13:49 <Cairo> yeah we are following
13:56 <Deceased> how high is it?
14:02 <Tasiv> perception checks to look around?
14:04 <Brunius> 12ft
14:07 <Brunius> Roll them
14:10 <Bobbob> @see
14:10 <Deceased> @see
14:10 <diebot> Bobbob, Perception: [1d20=19] 20
14:11 <diebot> Deceased, Perception: [1d20=18] 26
14:14 <Tasiv> @see
14:14 <diebot> Tasiv, Perception: [1d20=9] 15
14:19 <Cairo> is it a bad idea to drag this guy around like a prisoner rather than have him follow us like this
14:24 <Brunius> You realise that there's a lot of fungus around
14:26 <Cairo> @see
14:27 <diebot> Cairo, perception: [1d20=15] 25
14:27 <Deceased> yes
14:40 <Cairo> why is it a bad idea
14:48 <Bobbob> I'll go check out that bench/torture rack
15:02 <Brunius> This is a corridor atm
15:08 <Cairo> I mean if we don't have darkvision, we all know he's a liability
15:13 <Cairo> there's derros who can do at-will darkness
15:16 <Brunius> That's a seperate room
15:18 <Cairo> this seems like a really good idea
15:22 <Brunius> Past the red line
15:24 <Bobbob> yeah, I'll go check it out
15:32 <Deceased> I'll move into the corridor
15:33 <Brunius> Anyone going with him?
15:39 <Tasiv> no i'll wait here
15:44 <Tasiv> bow ready
15:45 <Cairo> I want to tie up Torvic
15:47 <Deceased> O30
15:50 <Bobbob> Bobbob will not let you
15:53 <Cairo> why not
15:57 <Bobbob> because it's dishonourable
15:58 <Brunius> Are you Sure you want to do that?
16:06 <Cairo> on second thoughts
16:23 <Cairo> I'll wait with Tasiv
16:33 <Tasiv> i'm not happy about it either
16:44 <Brunius> Bobbob and Deceased:
16:45 <Brunius> Beyond a curtain of sticky yellow filaments, the corridor opens 
16:45 <Brunius> to reveal a bizarre chamber. Glowing fungi bathe the chamber 
16:45 <Brunius> in dim blue light, revealing dozens of incomprehensible 
16:45 <Brunius> devices and texts heaped atop tables and shelves. Half torture 
16:45 <Brunius> chamber, half alchemical laboratory, one table holds the 
16:45 <Brunius> dissected remains of a mountain goat, surrounded by blood-
16:46 <Brunius> spattered parchments covered in cryptic notes and drawings. 
16:46 <Brunius> Strange wires project from the goat’s remains, connected to 
16:46 <Brunius> odd-looking metallic boxes.
16:46 <Cairo> I still think it's a bad idea
17:00 <Brunius> Yes
17:26 <Deceased> I'll cast detect magic over the room
17:43 <Brunius> There are three people here, I might mention
17:54 <Cairo> I might move up to the northern entrance to the door
17:58 <Cairo> er, to the room
18:03 <Deceased> what sort of "people"
18:27 <Brunius> T and S are derros
18:32 <Brunius> and K is an Orc
18:37 <Bobbob> okay
18:37 <Tasiv> here we go
18:39 <Bobbob> initiative?
18:46 <Deceased> "Wait"
18:46 <Tasiv> @init
18:46 <diebot> Tasiv, initiative: [1d20=6] 10
18:53 <Brunius> Roll initiatives!
18:57 <Bobbob> @init
18:57 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+4: [1d20=20] 24
18:58 <Deceased> @init
18:59 <diebot> Deceased, initiative: [1d20=14] 16
18:59 <Cairo> @init
18:59 <diebot> Cairo, initative: [1d20=11] 11
19:22 <Tasiv> @blahblah
19:24 <Brunius> !throw 2#1d20+6
19:24 <diebot> Brunius, 2#1d20+6: [1d20=8] 14, [1d20=19] 25
19:27 <Cairo> what's your actual initiative bonus
19:35 <Tasiv> +4
19:45 <Tasiv> so 14 brunius
19:48 <Cairo> yeah but in the grand scheme of things you will likely be fine anyway
19:58 <Cairo> yeah not necessarily
19:59 <Brunius> crap, gotta look something up
20:00 <Cairo> but we'll see won't we
20:10 <Tasiv> or not see in this case
20:23 <Cairo> then again, this is the darkness encounter
20:28 <Tasiv> aye
21:04 <Tasiv> i'm glad i'm a wuss
21:16 <Brunius> !throw 1d20
21:16 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20: [1d20=10] 10
21:45 <Tasiv> !save init: 1d20+4
21:45 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d20+4 saved as @init
22:13 <Tasiv> soz brunius it was a 10 after all
22:24 <Brunius> Alright
22:24 <Cairo> or you can put it in the text
22:31 <Brunius> It's S's turn
22:38 <Cairo> which one is which
22:39 <Brunius> He casts darkness!
22:51 <Cairo> which one's the orc
22:56 <Tasiv> k
23:04 <Cairo> oh, gotcha
23:07 <Cairo> sorry
23:36 <Brunius> How do you use these cones?
24:15 <Brunius> Huzzah
24:36 <Brunius> Tasiv and Cairo: Suddenly, Bobbob and Torvic drop out of view
24:42 <Brunius> Bobbob's turn
24:45 <Brunius> I know
25:00 <Brunius> It's dim light before :P
25:05 <Cairo> what does dim light mean
25:06 <Brunius> See the box text
25:18 <Brunius> It's Bobbob's turn
25:18 <Cairo> oh, so what's one step below dim light
25:27 <Cairo> ok
25:39 <Brunius> Magical light sources will un-darkness this area
25:47 <Cairo> yeah we have none
25:56 <Deceased> we have no second level light sources
26:02 <Cairo> charge in once
26:04 <Cairo> and then get out
26:29 <Cairo> I'd do it
26:41 <Deceased> !findchar Cairo
26:43 <diebot> Deceased, Character: Cairo, number: 270( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=270 )
26:43 <Cairo> well don't go in
26:51 <Cairo> there's no other reason to
26:56 <Cairo> we could continue on without fighting this at all
27:09 <Cairo> doesn't matter, we can run
27:19 <Cairo> yeah that's what I mean
27:24 <Cairo> they have to as well
27:31 <Cairo> either way it's out of the darkness
27:32 <Deceased> even the playing field
27:35 <Deceased> obscuring mist
27:36 <Cairo> we can use ranged attacks
28:00 <Cairo> yeah but that's a standard action
28:12 <Deceased> Cairo, obscuring mist them
28:22 <Cairo> I don't think I even have it prepared
28:30 <Cairo> I don't
28:30 <Bobbob> I'll go southeast, then 5 south
28:40 <Bobbob> while I'm going, saying "Derro and orcs in there, it's dark, it's madness! Madness!"
29:28 <Brunius> Huzzah
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29:32 <Cairo> "Where the hell are you going!"
29:51 <Brunius> Just huzzah in general
30:01 <Brunius> It's Deceased's turn
30:34 <Cairo> is the darkness still there
30:40 <Brunius> Yes
30:45 <Cairo> not showing on the map anymore
30:55 <Cairo> I did resync
31:10 <Cairo> can't see it reconnecting
31:13 <Cairo> just remove and replace it
31:31 <Deceased> hmmm
31:49 <Brunius> Fun
33:21 <Brunius> Deceased?
33:43 <Deceased> thinking
34:55 <Deceased> will I know if someone's in a adjacent sqare to me?
35:04 <Brunius> Will you?
35:16 <Deceased> that's my question to you
35:16 <Tasiv> just how dark is it? pitch black?
35:30 <Cairo> obviously you don't know
35:46 <Brunius> I don't.
35:48 <Tasiv> well i can see the room
35:52 <Brunius> Darkness doesn't say anything
35:57 <Brunius> I'll rule yes.
36:05 <Tasiv> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/d/darkness
36:25 <Brunius> I have the rulebook on hand man
36:34 <Deceased> ok
36:42 <Deceased> hmmm
37:17 <Deceased> can I see the hemisphere?
37:17 <Tasiv> soz
37:20 <Deceased> it's not on the map
37:59 <Brunius> Try resyncing
38:30 <Tasiv> bobbob: is that you down there at row 36???
38:35 <Bobbob> yep
38:40 <Tasiv> sweet mercy
38:54 <Deceased> ah
39:03 <Tasiv> i didn't bring a change of underpants
39:06 <Deceased> did I see all of those people before it bacame dark?
39:18 <Brunius> You saw T and S
41:01 <Brunius> 1 minute to go, then I'm moving the initiative on.
41:04 <Deceased> move to R27
41:20 <Brunius> There?
41:23 <Tasiv> !findchar Deceased
41:25 <diebot> Tasiv, Character: Deceased, number: 285( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=285 )
41:30 <Brunius> I might mention you're in a wall
41:35 <Deceased> sorry P
42:01 <Brunius> Standard action remains
42:03 <Deceased> and cast Glitterdust centred on the intersection between K-L 27-28
43:26 <Brunius>                                                  T                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     
43:30 <Brunius> wtf
43:33 <Tasiv> asiv?
43:34 <Brunius> They all glitter
43:41 <Deceased> will save DC19
43:46 <Cairo> can we see glittered creatures in the darkness
43:59 <Tasiv> discotheque
44:08 <Brunius> !throw 1d20-1 K
44:08 <diebot> Brunius, K: [1d20=3] 2
44:14 <Tasiv> :)
44:26 <Cairo> did they really multiply
44:30 <Brunius> No?
44:44 <Brunius> !throw 2#1d20+6 T then S
44:44 <diebot> Brunius, T then S: [1d20=18] 24, [1d20=1] 7
44:44 <Cairo> which S is the real one
45:01 <Brunius> K 28
45:14 <Brunius> It's T's turn
45:59 <Brunius> Can creatures cast while Blind?
46:02 <Brunius> !condition Blind
46:08 <Deceased> yes
46:12 <Deceased> but they can't target
46:24 <Brunius> Well, T casts Darkness
46:29 <Brunius>  Just to make you happy
46:30 <Deceased> Ballig: it seems to not send CAGraphicsItems on resync
46:43 <Brunius> It's Cairo's turn
46:47 <Cairo> are they no longer glittering
46:53 <Brunius> They are still glittering
46:57 <Cairo> I uh
47:02 <Brunius> But you don't know that; you haven't been told
47:15 <Cairo> which squares are difficult terrain if I move NW
47:43 <Brunius> Those ones
48:07 <Cairo> I'll move 2nw, that's my movement action
48:09 <Brunius> CA keeps deleting items one above the one I click
48:16 <Cairo> and take out my morningstar
48:21 <Brunius> Or selecting, like just then
48:32 <Brunius> Alright
48:45 <Brunius> Standard action remains
49:03 <Cairo> I'll ready an action to attack if anything hostile comes within range
49:04 <Brunius> Unless that was taking out your morningstar
49:06 <Brunius> Alright
49:12 <Brunius> It's Tasiv's turn
49:14 <Tasiv> ok
49:20 <Cairo> I did intend that to be my standard but I forgot I could take it out while moving
49:25 <Tasiv> move 2 sw
49:56 <Tasiv> and 1 s
49:56 <Cairo> I don't even know what's going on
50:06 <Cairo> that's not the square I'm in
50:14 <Tasiv> can i see anything to have a shot at?
50:24 <Cairo> I should be right next to Deceased, 1s
50:28 <Brunius> You are
50:34 <Brunius> Nope
50:38 <Cairo> I have to resync, my map's fucked
50:51 <Tasiv> you mean nope i can't see anything?
51:00 <Brunius> Nope, you can't see anything
51:11 <Brunius> Actually, you can see S
51:17 <Brunius> Glittering prettily
51:31 <Tasiv> ok i'll let 'im (or it) have it
51:36 <Brunius> Roll it
51:44 <Cairo> you said there's derro and orcs in there, but all I know is Deceased casted glitterdust and I don't know who saved
51:48 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+6 ranged
51:48 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged: [1d20=7] 13
51:52 <Cairo> I don't know how many there are or if any of them are still in the darkness
51:58 <Brunius> Miss
52:00 <Tasiv> fook
52:10 <Tasiv> end turn
52:24 <Brunius> K stumbles wildly to the south
52:45 <Brunius> Where Torvic suddenly recognises him
52:49 <Brunius> And starts attacking him
53:11 <Cairo> does he say anything to him? how do we know he recognises him
53:28 <Cairo> or don't we know
53:30 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+1
53:30 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+1: [1d20=2] 3
53:40 <Cairo> probably for the best
53:43 <Brunius> You don't know
54:08 <Brunius> S takes out a crossbow and shoots at Tasiv
54:21 <Tasiv> ac16
54:33 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+5
54:33 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+5: [1d20=6] 11
54:38 <Brunius> Missing
54:39 <Tasiv> HA!
54:42 <Brunius> It's Bobbob's turn
54:46 <Bobbob> I'll charge at K
54:52 <Bobbob> I can stop at N32
55:03 <Brunius> Roll it
55:05 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+12
55:06 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+12: [1d20=12] 24
55:13 <Tasiv> *whistle
55:28 <Brunius> Roll damage
55:29 <Bobbob> !throw 3d6+30
55:30 <diebot> Bobbob, 3d6+30: [3d6=6,4,1] 41
55:46 <Brunius> He dies
55:51 <Bobbob> my wolf does a little dance
56:03 <Brunius> Roll Perform: Dance
56:28 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20-2
56:28 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20-2: [1d20=10] 8
56:40 <Brunius> It looks pretty horrible to everyone else
56:45 <Brunius> It's Deceased's turn
56:50 <Deceased> hmmm
57:32 <Deceased> can I see them glittering in the Darkness?
57:38 <Brunius> Yes
57:58 <Bobbob> they are like vampires
58:33 <Brunius> THOSE vampires sparkle, live in the forest and don't eat humans
58:38 <Brunius> Therefore they're fairies
59:23 <Deceased> move 2W
59:37 <Deceased> hmmm
59:41 <Deceased> one more west
59:45 <Deceased> and colour spray them
59:51 <Brunius> :S
59:56 <Brunius> Will saves?
59:59 <Deceased> dc 19 will save
59:59 <Bobbob> aye
00:00 <Tasiv> hot damn
00:13 <Bobbob> then you determine effect based on their HD
00:19 <Cairo> how did you get DC 19
00:19 <Brunius> !throw 2#1d20+6
00:20 <diebot> Brunius, 2#1d20+6: [1d20=4] 10, [1d20=3] 9
00:26 <Tasiv> if i see 2 "D"s do i need to resync?
00:31 <Bobbob> prob
00:32 <Cairo> yeah
00:39 <Tasiv> yep
00:49 <Brunius> Where the hell are hit dice in this statblock
01:27 <Cairo> MekkisScreen: where's your pdf char sheet
01:38 <Brunius> !throw 2#1d4
01:38 <diebot> Brunius, 2#1d4: [1d4=3] 3, [1d4=1] 1
01:58 <Brunius> They're blinded and stunned
02:21 <Brunius> Cairo's turn
02:43 <Cairo> yeah I'm thinking
02:49 <Cairo> do I know they are blinded and stunned
02:53 <Tasiv> blind, stunned and deaded
02:57 <Brunius> You can't see them
02:59 <Cairo> or did I just see Deceased walk in
03:01 <Cairo> to darkness
03:08 <Brunius> You saw deceased walk in
03:10 <Cairo> I'll delay I guess
03:23 <Brunius> Tasiv's turn
03:33 <Tasiv> stay here
03:40 <Tasiv> ranged attack on s if i may?
03:45 <Brunius> Roll it
03:47 <Deceased> you can see their figures drop their weapons if any, right?
03:53 <Tasiv> i'll take -1 on attack and +2 on damage
04:00 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+5 ranged
04:00 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged: [1d20=12] 17
04:10 <Brunius> Hits
04:16 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+4
04:17 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d8+4: [1d8=4] 8
04:55 <Brunius> He's got an arrow sticking out of him
05:01 <Tasiv> end turn
05:06 <Brunius> Torvic's turn
05:10 <Deceased> Cairo, 23 int, spell focus and GSF 
05:18 <Bobbob> "Don't get in the way, Torvic."
05:19 <Tasiv> brunius: you keep avoiding mentioning the knee
05:23 <Cairo> how'd you get 23 int
05:27 <Deceased> headband
05:30 <Deceased> like Real Men
05:31 <Brunius> He's a little annoyed at these guys, and stabs S
05:37 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+1
05:38 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+1: [1d20=15] 16
05:42 <Brunius> Hitting
05:44 <Brunius> !throw 1d8
05:45 <diebot> Brunius, 1d8: [1d8=7] 7
05:55 <Tasiv> stabs S with a rusty axe
05:58 <Brunius> Bobbob's turn
06:08 <Bobbob> I'll move to K29
06:21 <Bobbob> one west
06:25 <Bobbob> and stab T in the face
06:39 <Brunius> Roll it
06:40 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8 p-attack
06:41 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=13] 21
06:42 <Tasiv> now you're talking little guy
06:45 <Brunius> Hits
06:47 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
06:48 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=4] 14
06:52 <Bobbob> and my wolf will bite S
07:04 <Brunius> Roll it
07:09 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 bite
07:09 <diebot> Bobbob, bite: [1d20=11] 16
07:11 <Brunius> Hits
07:18 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+2 damage; 1d20+5 trip
07:18 <diebot> Bobbob, damage: [1d6=2] 4; trip: [1d20=3] 8
07:41 <Brunius> He rips out a chunk of S's thigh
07:55 <Brunius> It's Deceased's turn
07:55 <Tasiv> aw not the knee?
08:25 <Deceased> move 1N
08:30 <Deceased> taking out my longbow
08:36 <Deceased> and fire at T
08:43 <Deceased> Elves need to know how to use a bow :)
08:51 <Brunius> Roll it
08:56 <Deceased> !throw 1d20+4
08:57 <diebot> Deceased, 1d20+4: [1d20=10] 14
09:07 <Brunius> They're flat footed?
09:14 <Deceased> if they're bind they are
09:17 <Deceased> blind even
09:27 <Brunius> What does stunned do to their AC?
09:33 <Bobbob> !condition stunned
09:36 <Deceased> drops it to -50 :)
09:41 <Brunius> Hmm :P
09:51 <Brunius> Hits then
09:57 <Deceased> !throw 1d8
09:58 <diebot> Deceased, 1d8: [1d8=5] 5
10:00 <Cairo> echo
10:02 <Deceased> yeah !
10:23 <Deceased> end turn
10:28 <Brunius> Takes an arrow to the chest
10:55 <Brunius> T is un-blinded!
10:58 <Brunius> Still stunned
11:03 <Brunius> Cairo's turn
11:08 <Cairo> is the darkness still there
11:19 <Bobbob> "Come in Cairo, help us finish these bastards off!"
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11:37 <Brunius> Yep
11:47 <Cairo> can I get full movement to T
11:58 <Cairo> !throw 1d20
11:58 <diebot> Cairo, 1d20: [1d20=5] 5
12:01 <Cairo> end turn
12:07 <Brunius> Tasiv's turn
12:18 <Tasiv> move 2 nw
12:29 <Tasiv> ranged on s
12:31 <Brunius> Yep
12:32 <Brunius> Roll it
12:45 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+6 ranged
12:45 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged: [1d20=15] 21
12:49 <Brunius> Hits
12:51 <Brunius> Roll damage
12:57 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+6
12:57 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d8+6: [1d8=3] 9
13:07 <Tasiv> "eggselent"
13:26 <Brunius> Torvic keeps slashing him anyway
13:29 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+1
13:29 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+1: [1d20=18] 19
13:33 <Brunius> !throw 1d8
13:33 <diebot> Brunius, 1d8: [1d8=8] 8
13:43 <Brunius> Bobbob's turn
13:50 <Brunius> Nope
14:03 <Bobbob> I'll stab T in the face
14:06 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8
14:07 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+8: [1d20=5] 13
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14:12 <Brunius> Hit
14:16 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
14:16 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=3] 13
14:22 <Brunius> He also dies
14:45 <Bobbob> I find the items they cast darkness on
14:48 <Bobbob> and put them in my backpack
14:48 <Brunius> You're off combat initiative for now
14:55 <Bobbob> then I'll loot the corpses more generally
15:12 <Cairo> I'd like a description of the room
15:12 <Brunius> Bobbob: After two and half minutes they stop being darkness-y
15:18 <Bobbob> that's fine
15:23 <Bobbob> as long as the darkness doesn't impede my looting
15:27 <Brunius> Beyond a curtain of sticky yellow filaments, the corridor opens 
15:27 <Brunius> to reveal a bizarre chamber. Glowing fungi bathe the chamber 
15:27 <Brunius> in dim blue light, revealing dozens of incomprehensible 
15:27 <Brunius> devices and texts heaped atop tables and shelves. Half torture 
15:27 <Brunius> chamber, half alchemical laboratory, one table holds the 
15:27 <Brunius> dissected remains of a mountain goat, surrounded by blood-
15:27 <Brunius> spattered parchments covered in cryptic notes and drawings. 
15:27 <Brunius> Strange wires project from the goat’s remains, connected to 
15:27 <Brunius> odd-looking metallic boxes.
15:37 <Brunius> Box text, as before
15:49 <Brunius> The derros have a short sword each
15:55 * Deceased reads the parchments and notes and drawings and tries to make sense of the wires and boxes and other things
16:02 <Bobbob> any potions or scrolls?
16:05 <Brunius> A repeating light crossbow each
16:11 * Deceased also takes a Derro's eye
16:14 <Bobbob> (anything in the "Combat Gear", if it's not standard bestiary)
16:18 <Brunius> And 19 bolts together
16:34 <Cairo> I take the bolts
16:54 <Brunius> Roll a dex check
16:59 <Cairo> !throw 1d20
17:00 <diebot> Cairo, 1d20: [1d20=4] 4
17:02 <Tasiv> "hey can someone detect magic on the ivory-handled longswords?"
17:08 <Deceased> "I did
17:10 <Tasiv> "or did we already?"
17:13 <Brunius> Take 4 fortitude saves as you prick your finger on one of them
17:15 <Bobbob> I retrieve my shield
17:19 <Cairo> jesus
17:23 <Tasiv> bloody hell
17:36 <Bobbob> and Cairo has detect poison too
17:37 <Bobbob> tch
17:48 <Deceased> detect magic the room
17:52 <Cairo> !throw 1d20+6 fort
17:53 <diebot> Cairo, fort: [1d20=5] 11
17:53 <diebot> Cairo, fort: [1d20=19] 25
17:53 <diebot> Cairo, fort: [1d20=2] 8
17:54 <diebot> Cairo, fort: [1d20=10] 16
17:58 <Tasiv> *whistle
18:03 <Brunius> !throw 1d2
18:03 <diebot> Brunius, 1d2: [1d2=2] 2
18:10 <Brunius> You take 2 str damage
18:15 <Tasiv> pffft
18:21 <Cairo> no biggy
18:25 <Tasiv> who needs strength?
18:31 <Bobbob> not cairo !
18:33 <Cairo> I put away my morningstar, taking out my crossbow
18:36 <Brunius> You can hear music from down the hall, by the way
18:41 <Bobbob> you have a chance of doing that every time you use those
18:41 <Bobbob> just fyi
18:43 * Deceased reads the parchments and notes and drawings and tries to make sense of the wires and boxes and other things
18:50 <Deceased> and detect magics the room
18:51 <Tasiv> deceased: where the swords magical?
18:54 <Brunius> You find a healer's kit
18:55 <Tasiv> were
18:56 <Bobbob> Tasiv: yes
19:01 <Tasiv> okee
19:06 <Cairo> do I risk pricking myself everytime I load those bolts?
19:14 <Bobbob> unless you have the poison use class ability
19:32 <Cairo> hm
19:34 <Brunius> You don't have a clue what it does, Deceased. It's pretty outlandish.
19:44 <Deceased> I'm pretty well-versed
19:59 <Bobbob> I will inspect the rooms to the west
20:04 <Brunius> There's a pixie corpse where that pink cross is
20:10 <Cairo> I ditch all but one of those bolts, which I load into my crossbow
20:15 <Brunius> They're store rooms, Bobbob
20:19 <Bobbob> I search them
20:31 <Brunius> You find a some fungus
20:31 <Tasiv> cairo: good move
20:34 <Deceased> I'll mage hand one of the bolts into my pack
20:37 <Bobbob> what does it taste like
20:39 <Bobbob> (I'm not really eating it)
20:49 <Tasiv> "cheese"
20:50 <Brunius> You don't know - You haven't eaten it
20:52 <Bobbob> oh
21:01 <Bobbob> this is nethack, I can eat mold right
21:02 <Cairo> why would you do that, you don't know I'm poisoned
21:17 <Deceased> sure
21:20 <Deceased> you can eat mold
21:23 <Bobbob> he's probably fought derro before and knows they have poisoned bolts
21:23 <Tasiv> "this room freaks me out"
21:38 <Tasiv> have we opened the two doors?
21:46 <Brunius> "These people...they have my notes..."
21:48 <Brunius> Yes
21:54 <Cairo> "What notes?"
21:55 <Deceased> who said that?'
21:56 <Tasiv> oh yeah storerooms
21:57 <Bobbob> "Let's go check out the music."
22:01 <Bobbob> and I'll start toward the stairs
22:02 <Brunius> Torvic
22:06 <Bobbob> (but won't go any further without someone following)
22:12 * Deceased examines the store rooms carefully
22:18 <Deceased> scanning with detect magic as well
22:31 <Cairo> he recognised one
22:34 <Brunius> He was pissed at these guys because they tortured him
22:36 <Cairo> I don't know if he said anything
23:09 <Tasiv> ok follow in formation
23:12 <Cairo> is there any texts in this area that may talk about a legend of a magical bridge going across the inner sea
23:13 <Brunius> "My lore texts" (At cairo)
23:25 <Brunius> Something else
23:27 <Deceased> what do I find?
23:30 <Tasiv> "you and your bloody magical bridge across a magical sea"
23:35 <Brunius> Perception check Cairo
23:37 <Cairo> "Sorry, this is important."
23:41 <Cairo> @see
23:42 <diebot> Cairo, perception: [1d20=5] 15
24:00 <Tasiv> "just clowning around"
24:02 <Brunius> You find the lore texts in a pile of fertilizer
24:11 <Cairo> about the bridge?
24:25 <Cairo> or Torvic's garbage
24:28 <Brunius> You don't know, they're written in dwarven
24:35 <Cairo> shit
24:41 <Tasiv> "torvic?"
24:43 <Cairo> "Torvic, take a look at this."
25:01 <Brunius> Deceased - You find the notes the torturers made
25:05 <Cairo> I have linguistics
25:13 <Deceased> what sort of things?
25:32 <Brunius> Info about the drugs and medicines they were using
25:47 <Deceased> I'll take them
26:00 <Tasiv> tea
26:00 <Deceased> then follow Bobbob 
26:18 <Brunius> Cairo - He starts translating and you think they're the ones
26:33 <Cairo> I double check with linguistics
26:39 <Cairo> !throw 1d20+4 linguistics
26:39 <diebot> Cairo, linguistics: [1d20=19] 23
26:42 <Brunius> You think they're the ones
26:44 <Cairo> good
26:56 <Cairo> "Deceased, I got the text."
26:59 <Brunius> You guys are ready to move on?
27:02 <Cairo> yeah we move on
27:10 <Brunius> Going upstairs?
27:24 <Cairo> following Bobbob's lead
27:39 <Bobbob> yep
27:46 <Deceased> "Really? Great."
27:58 <Brunius> You're going upstairs?
28:37 <Cairo> brb
28:53 <Tasiv> bmp of death?
29:04 <Brunius> Ah crap
29:09 <Brunius> I didn't convert this one, you're right
29:22 <Tasiv> pop it on a webserver?
29:33 <Bobbob> www.imgur.com
29:50 <Tasiv> 17.5 kb
29:59 <Brunius> brb
30:53 <Bobbob> I have the map
31:07 <Bobbob> can we ignore that compass
31:41 <Brunius> No :P
31:59 <Bobbob> :(
32:00 <Brunius> I guess you can.
32:00 <Bobbob> pretty plz
32:01 <Brunius> Maybe.
32:15 <Bobbob> can I ignore but Avatar has to use it?
35:20 <Brunius> Tell me when everyone's back, you're ready to go on
36:22 <Tasiv> 50%
38:03 <Tasiv> huzzah 100%
38:51 <Brunius> One of my friends was wearing one of those "We are the 99%" things, then his friend made it "We are the 0.99(recurring)%" :)
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39:56 <Brunius> A wild Spaceshot_tm2 appeared!
40:02 <Brunius> Roll initiatives!
40:05 <Deceased> @init
40:05 <Bobbob> @init
40:05 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+4: [1d20=1] 5
40:06 <diebot> Deceased, initiative: [1d20=12] 14
40:09 <Cairo> @init
40:09 <diebot> Cairo, initative: [1d20=17] 17
40:14 <Deceased> I glitterdust him
40:14 <Tasiv> @init
40:14 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d20+4: [1d20=7] 11
40:16 <Bobbob> do I get a surprise round
40:18 <Bobbob> I want to charge
40:20 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+12
40:20 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+12: [1d20=10] 22
40:24 <Bobbob> !throw 3d6+30
40:25 <diebot> Bobbob, 3d6+30: [3d6=2,5,4] 41
40:28 <Bobbob> is he still alive
40:29 <Brunius> Spaceshot dies
40:32 <Bobbob> sweet
40:32 <Deceased> has he fainted?
40:38 <Bobbob> Bobbob used charge
40:41 <Bobbob> It's super effective!
40:59 <Tasiv> or just swooned?
41:05 <Brunius> Diamond and Pearl were rated M
41:10 <Brunius> Due to gambling references
41:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
41:16 <Brunius> Behind the castle
41:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> lemme guess you just started?
41:23 <Brunius> Nope
42:24 <Tasiv> cover that disgraceful thing up
42:42 <Tasiv> it's an insult to navigational items everywhere
42:45 <Deceased> move 125°S of N, 6.25'
42:52 <Tasiv> *aids
43:06 <Brunius> 21
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44:29 <Brunius> You unreleaser
44:32 <Bobbob> I'll move 10ft south
44:34 <Tasiv> yep
44:35 <Bobbob> to see around the corner
44:47 <Deceased> I'll move due south too
44:55 <Bobbob> box description?
45:05 <Bobbob> !findchar Deceased
45:07 <diebot> Bobbob, Character: Deceased, number: 285( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=285 )
45:23 <Brunius> I have to shuffle the bloody tokens every time
45:46 <Brunius> Dozens of whirling, twitching humanoids fill the massive 
45:46 <Brunius> chamber, dressed in outlandish costumes. Masked derros 
45:46 <Brunius> madly waltz about, ducking in and out of the light shed by 
45:46 <Brunius> a few battered candelabra. Others wave banners of tattered 
45:46 <Brunius> cloth or whirl feeble, guttering torches, their dim light an 
45:46 <Brunius> unnatural blood red. Some mites wind between the derros’ 
45:46 <Brunius> legs in a chaotic mimicry of peasants’ country dances, 
45:46 <Brunius> while other intoxicated mites awkwardly gather dirty plates 
45:46 <Brunius> and goblets from tables. More creatures crowd an elevated 
45:46 <Brunius> gallery at the chamber’s east end and appear to be a mockery 
45:46 <Brunius> of an orchestra, each musician vying to outdo his fellows in 
45:46 <Brunius> thunderous cacaphony. 
46:25 <Tasiv> "loony bin"
46:57 <Deceased> could you show the people?
47:28 <Brunius> Resync
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47:41 <Brunius> It's port 4000 I think
47:46 <Brunius> Remember how it's blocked?
48:00 <Brunius> The other creatures aren't of any note
48:08 <Deceased> you should just host on ipv6
48:16 <Brunius> Because they are gonna fight you :P
48:21 <Brunius> The others aren't
48:23 <Bobbob> are we rolling initiative
48:27 <Brunius> Roll le initiative
48:31 <Cairo> @init
48:31 <diebot> Cairo, initative: [1d20=6] 6
48:32 <Bobbob> @init
48:32 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+4: [1d20=10] 14
48:34 <Tasiv> @init
48:34 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d20+4: [1d20=6] 10
49:32 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+6
49:32 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+6: [1d20=13] 19
49:41 <Tasiv> deceased: init
49:49 <Brunius> !throw 4#1d20+3
49:49 <diebot> Brunius, 4#1d20+3: [1d20=1] 4, [1d20=19] 22, [1d20=3] 6, [1d20=19] 22
49:59 <Deceased> @init
50:00 <diebot> Deceased, initiative: [1d20=2] 4
51:35 <Brunius> !throw 2#1d20+3
51:36 <diebot> Brunius, 2#1d20+3: [1d20=6] 9, [1d20=13] 16
51:47 <Brunius> Alright
52:29 <Brunius> #4 spots you and pulls a dart out
52:43 <Brunius> 1-4 are mites
52:57 <Brunius> M is an elf
53:41 <Brunius> She is wearing masterwork breastplate and carries a buckler and dagger
53:49 <Brunius> You can see a longbow, too
53:59 <Brunius> #2 pulls out a dart
54:11 <Deceased> I yell at the elf, in elvish, "Why are you associating with these incompetent dart-throwers?"
54:40 <Brunius> Lady Morialaeth uses disguise self :P
54:50 <Deceased> ah
54:56 <Deceased> it's that Taldan bitch
55:12 <Brunius> Nope
55:17 <Brunius> That's Lady Morilla
55:18 <Brunius> I think
55:20 <Deceased> close
55:55 <Brunius> M's
56:00 <Brunius> Looking stuff up
56:20 <Brunius> She joins the revellers
56:36 <Deceased> I try to keep an eye on her
56:36 <Brunius> Make perceptions
56:38 <Deceased> @see
56:39 <diebot> Deceased, Perception: [1d20=2] 10
56:40 <Bobbob> @see
56:41 <diebot> Bobbob, Perception: [1d20=9] 10
56:41 <Tasiv> @see
56:42 <diebot> Tasiv, Perception: [1d20=11] 17
56:54 <Brunius> You can't figure out which one was her
57:09 <Cairo> @see
57:09 <diebot> Cairo, perception: [1d20=9] 19
57:11 <Brunius> That's just for reference, in the cahri
57:15 <Brunius> Nothing
57:20 <Brunius> chair8
57:26 <Brunius> Jesus, keyboard
57:31 <Deceased> "Well, we can always kill ALL the revellers...."
57:34 <Brunius> Bobbob's turn
58:05 <Bobbob> I'll charge 33
58:06 <Bobbob> er
58:07 <Bobbob> #3
58:18 <Brunius> Roll it
58:23 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+12
58:23 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+12: [1d20=10] 22
58:27 <Bobbob> not there
58:28 <Deceased> make a credit check
58:28 <Bobbob> one north
58:34 <Brunius> Ha
58:42 <Brunius> You insurance broker you
58:44 <Deceased> (that does exist in d20 modern)
58:51 <Brunius> I know :)
58:54 <Brunius> Yeah, hits
58:58 <Bobbob> !throw 3d6+30
58:58 <diebot> Bobbob, 3d6+30: [3d6=3,6,1] 40
59:01 <Brunius> He dies
59:09 <Deceased> sure
59:23 <Cairo> that's probably a good spot to be in anyway
59:37 <Bobbob> I'll end turn
59:48 <Brunius> Tasiv's turn
00:03 <Tasiv> 4 is alive?
00:06 <Brunius> Yep
00:08 <Cairo> yeah 3 is dead
00:10 <Tasiv> ok
00:26 <Tasiv> move forward 6 east
00:33 <Cairo> yep
00:48 <Brunius> Roll it
00:57 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+6 
00:58 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d20+6: [1d20=15] 21
01:01 <Brunius> HIt
01:10 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+5
01:10 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d8+5: [1d8=8] 13
01:14 <Tasiv> yowch
01:21 <Brunius> #4 is rather annoyed
01:22 <Cairo> shit, I have to remember I only have 25ft movement
01:37 <Brunius> Cairo's turn
01:47 <Bobbob> you can charge 50 feet!
01:57 <Tasiv> GRAAAA!
02:22 <Cairo> I move 2s of Tasiv
02:29 <Cairo> and shoot #4
02:37 <Brunius> Go on
02:39 <Tasiv> poisoned?
02:41 <Cairo> !throw 1d20
02:41 <diebot> Cairo, 1d20: [1d20=12] 12
02:43 <Cairo> yeah poisoned 
02:44 <Brunius> Missing
02:48 <Cairo> ok
02:58 <Brunius> That's your turn?
03:11 <Cairo> movement and attack
03:15 <Cairo> can I do something else
03:20 <Cairo> "Go for the elf!"
03:44 <Tasiv> yeah he can't do anything else
03:50 <Brunius> #1 decides not to stick around and repeat what happened with #3
03:57 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+6 Dart at Bobbob
03:58 <diebot> Brunius, Dart at Bobbob: [1d20=11] 17
04:05 <Tasiv> i don't think...
04:06 <Bobbob> AC 22
04:06 <Brunius> I'm presuming that misses
04:10 <Brunius> Then runs away
04:12 <Bobbob> (after I dropped my shielda s per standard tactics)
04:24 <Brunius> Deceased's turn
04:34 <Deceased> 25' east
04:41 <Cairo> I'm 1s of that square
04:46 <Cairo> I said I was 2s of Tasiv
04:57 <Tasiv> cairo? end turn?
05:03 <Deceased> then ready an action to cast a spell at the elf, when she makes herself visible
05:09 <Cairo> it hasn't been my turn for a while
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05:15 <Cairo> ah crap
05:23 <Deceased> (can I try a perception now?)
05:30 Tasiv ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
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05:30 ataxia.il.us.austnet.org gives voice to Tasiv
05:31 <Brunius> Roll it
05:33 <Deceased> @see
05:34 <diebot> Deceased, Perception: [1d20=9] 17
05:43 <Deceased> ok
05:43 <Brunius> Still can't figure out which one she is
05:44 <Deceased> end turn
05:48 <Deceased> well
05:49 <Cairo> what are you looking at
05:50 <Tasiv> i think i'm still in
05:56 <Deceased> keeping that readied action
06:06 <Brunius> #4 throws a dart at Bobbob
06:10 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+6
06:10 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+6: [1d20=13] 19
06:14 <Bobbob> "Bring it!"
06:15 <Brunius> Missing
06:18 <Tasiv> lolol
06:23 <Brunius> Then 20ft E
06:52 <Brunius> #2 goes for the extreme range shot on Bobbob
07:24 <Brunius> 12*5
07:33 <Bobbob> 60
07:38 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+3
07:38 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+3: [1d20=13] 16
07:42 <Brunius> Missing
07:57 <Brunius> Lady Morilaeth does her moving thing
08:14 <Brunius> Bobbob's turn
08:27 <Bobbob> I charge to !g14
08:28 <Bobbob> at #2
08:45 <Brunius> Roll it
08:47 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+12
08:48 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+12: [1d20=6] 18
08:54 <Brunius> Hit
08:57 <Bobbob> !throw 3d6+30
08:57 <diebot> Bobbob, 3d6+30: [3d6=2,1,3] 36
08:59 <Brunius> He dies
09:07 <Bobbob> "Bring. It."
09:16 <Brunius> You lance user
09:16 <Cairo> automatic +30, man
09:23 <Tasiv> gruesome
09:54 <Bobbob> I'll use ride-by attack
09:58 <Bobbob> to continue by 5 feet
10:07 <Bobbob> and my wolf will attack #1
10:12 <Brunius> gogo
10:18 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 bite
10:19 <diebot> Bobbob, bite: [1d20=10] 15
10:24 <Brunius> Miss
10:27 <Bobbob> end turn
10:35 <Brunius> Tasiv's turn
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14:12 <Tasiv> good?
14:22 ChanOP gives voice to Tasiv
14:28 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+6 ranged full
14:29 <diebot> Tasiv, ranged full: [1d20=19] 25
14:42 <Brunius> On?
14:47 <Tasiv> 4
14:50 <Brunius> Yep, hitting
14:54 <Tasiv> did you get move to w12?
14:56 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+5
14:56 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d8+5: [1d8=2] 7
15:13 <Tasiv> end turn
15:16 <Brunius> He's not too happy
15:19 <Brunius> Cairo's turn
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15:34 <Cairo> I reload and shoot #4
15:38 <Cairo> is that who Tasiv shot?
15:41 <Brunius> Yep
15:42 <Tasiv> yeah
15:45 <Cairo> yeah I do that
15:48 <Brunius> Roll it
15:52 <Cairo> !throw 1d20+2 
15:52 <diebot> Cairo, 1d20+2: [1d20=15] 17
15:55 <Brunius> Hit
15:55 <Tasiv> YES
15:56 <Cairo> !throw 1d8
15:57 <diebot> Cairo, 1d8: [1d8=6] 6
16:00 <Brunius> Dies
16:00 <Cairo> "YES"
16:05 <Tasiv> "HA!"
16:10 <Cairo> "A-HA!"
16:21 <Cairo> pretty much !!
17:01 <Brunius> #1 stabs Bobbob
17:16 <Brunius> !throw 2#1d20+3
17:16 <diebot> Brunius, 2#1d20+3: [1d20=19] 22, [1d20=10] 13
17:19 <Bobbob> hits once
17:31 <Brunius> That's a crit, too
17:34 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+3
17:34 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+3: [1d20=7] 10
17:39 <Brunius> Nuh
17:46 <Brunius> !throw 1d4+1
17:46 <diebot> Brunius, 1d4+1: [1d4=4] 5
17:50 <Bobbob> "Bastard."
17:53 <Bobbob> 38/43
18:01 <Tasiv> "#1 - what an asshole"
18:02 <Brunius> It's Deceased's turn
18:16 * Deceased whispers to Cairo. "We need to ensure that elf doesn't get away... Start killing the revellers..."
18:27 <Deceased> try to see the elf
18:34 <Brunius> Roll perception
18:36 <Deceased> @see
18:37 <diebot> Deceased, Perception: [1d20=7] 15
18:41 <Brunius> Don't see her
18:46 <Deceased> same ready action as last turn
18:48 <Deceased> end
18:52 <Brunius> Yep
19:02 <Cairo> sorry, why are we rolling perception to see the elf?
19:12 <Brunius> She's disguised as one of the revellers
19:17 <Cairo> ah
19:26 <Cairo> ye
20:03 <Brunius> Surprise!
20:08 <Tasiv> SUPPLIES!
20:09 <Brunius> Take your readied action
20:25 <Deceased> sure
20:28 <Deceased> what's she doing?
20:35 <Brunius> Channel neg energy
20:45 <Deceased> did she move this turn
20:45 <Deceased> ?
20:49 <Brunius> Yes
20:52 <Deceased> cool
20:57 <Deceased> Dust of Twilight her
21:02 <Brunius> Source book?
21:06 <Deceased> APG
21:27 <Deceased> A shower of iridescent black particles clings to and extinguishes
21:27 <Deceased> torches, lanterns, sunrods, and similar mundane light sources
21:27 <Deceased> and dispels any spell of 2nd level or lower with the light
21:27 <Deceased> descriptor (as dispel magic). Creatures in the area must make a
21:27 <Deceased> Fortitude save or become fatigued.
21:54 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+4 Fort
21:54 <diebot> Brunius, Fort: [1d20=7] 11
21:55 <Brunius> DC?
21:55 <Deceased> 10' spread centred on W15
21:57 <Deceased> 19
21:59 <Brunius> She's failed that
22:00 <Bobbob> !condition fatigued
22:10 <Bobbob> Fatigued: Cannot run nor charge. -2 to Strength and Dexterity. 
22:11 <Bobbob> Fatiguing actions cause exhaustion. Requires 8 hours of complete rest.
22:25 <Brunius> She channels neg energy!
22:28 <Deceased> ok
22:30 <Brunius> !throw 1d6 Channel
22:30 <diebot> Brunius, Channel: [1d6=6] 6
22:35 <Brunius> Take 6 points of damage
22:38 <Deceased> @will
22:46 <Brunius> Or will for half
23:01 <Deceased> !throw 1d20+3 will
23:02 <diebot> Deceased, will: [1d20=19] 22
23:07 <Deceased> 23/26
23:16 <Brunius> Cairo?
23:30 <Cairo> erm
23:41 <Cairo> !throw 1d20+8 will
23:42 <diebot> Cairo, will: [1d20=12] 20
23:50 <Cairo> 24/27
24:02 <Cairo> is Tasiv in range?
24:10 <Brunius> Don't think so
24:11 <Bobbob> !dist 20 10
24:12 <diebot> Bobbob, Length of hypotenuse: 22.360680
24:28 <Brunius> You're fond of that, Bobbob, aren't you?
24:35 <Cairo> silence won't negate channels, will it
24:44 <Bobbob> I love it
24:53 <Brunius> Bobbob's turn
25:05 <Bobbob> my wolf will bite #1
25:10 <Brunius> Oh, all the revellers in the surrounds die
25:23 <Brunius> She's not really that fussed
25:26 <Brunius> Roll it
25:30 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 bite
25:30 <diebot> Bobbob, bite: [1d20=20] 25
25:32 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 bite
25:33 <diebot> Bobbob, bite: [1d20=11] 16
25:33 <Deceased> "looks like she's doing it for us"
25:35 <Brunius> Bi-hitting
25:42 <Brunius> Nope
25:49 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+2 damage; 1d20+5 trip
25:49 <diebot> Bobbob, damage: [1d6=2] 4; trip: [1d20=13] 18
26:00 <Bobbob> is he tripped
26:01 <Brunius> He gets tripped!
26:06 <Bobbob> 5 foot west, lance him in the face
26:10 <Bobbob> (-4 to his AC for being prone)
26:13 <Brunius> Go on then
26:16 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8 p-attack
26:17 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=19] 27
26:30 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10 damage
26:30 <diebot> Bobbob, damage: [1d6=6] 16
26:41 <Brunius> He's still alive
26:44 <Brunius> Not happy, but alive
26:49 <Bobbob> end turn
26:55 <Brunius> Tasiv's turn
26:57 <Tasiv> ok
27:02 <Tasiv> move to R13
27:20 <Tasiv> full ranged attack on M
27:27 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+6
27:28 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d20+6: [1d20=6] 12
27:28 <Brunius> Roll eet
27:31 <Tasiv> pffft
27:31 <Brunius> Miss
27:40 <Brunius> Cairo's turn
28:26 <Cairo> thinking
28:34 <Cairo> hey I do have obscruing mist, woops
28:38 <Brunius> gg
28:55 <Cairo> how wounded is she
29:02 <Brunius> Not at all
29:06 <Brunius> Just fatigued
29:11 <Cairo> tempted to grapple
29:16 <Cairo> I shoot her
29:19 <Brunius> Roll it
29:19 <Cairo> !throw 1d20+2
29:20 <diebot> Cairo, 1d20+2: [1d20=7] 9
29:22 <Brunius> Misses
29:25 <Cairo> reload
29:33 <Brunius> #1's turn
29:38 <Cairo> should I use my morningstar
29:41 <Brunius> He stabs Bobbob again
29:43 <Cairo> and my -2 str from poison
29:52 <Brunius> You've only got one poison bolt
29:55 <Brunius> And you used that on #4
29:59 <Cairo> yeah, MY -2 
30:01 <Brunius> Ah
30:08 <Brunius> He stands, then
30:08 <Bobbob> if he's standing up from prone I will take my AOO
30:11 <Brunius> Go on then
30:14 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8 p-attack
30:14 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=2] 10
30:17 <Brunius> gg
30:31 <Brunius> Misses
30:34 <Bobbob> yep
30:43 <Brunius> !throw 2#1d20+3 Short Sword
30:44 <diebot> Brunius, Short Sword: [1d20=10] 13, [1d20=6] 9
30:50 <Brunius> Bi-missing
31:11 <Brunius> Deceased's turn
31:49 <Deceased> draw longsword and move to T16
31:52 <Deceased> and attack her
32:07 <Brunius> Roll it
32:27 <Deceased> !throw 1d20+3
32:28 <diebot> Deceased, 1d20+3: [1d20=13] 16
33:10 <Deceased> end turh
33:12 <Deceased> turn
33:21 <Brunius> She draws a rapier
33:27 <Brunius> And stabs Deceased
33:33 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+2
33:33 <diebot> Brunius, 1d20+2: [1d20=5] 7
33:36 <Deceased> "Aren't you a little tired?"
33:42 <Deceased> (in elvish)
33:51 <Brunius> She screams at you
33:51 <Cairo> elven
33:56 <Deceased> elvenish
33:59 <Brunius> Ha
34:01 <Deceased> elfish
34:02 <Tasiv> "silence, you cow"
34:03 <Brunius> Bobbob's turn
34:06 <Cairo> let's call the whole thing off
34:10 <Deceased> elfenish
34:11 <Bobbob> I charge to W16
34:25 <Bobbob> getting flank bonus
34:28 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+14
34:28 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+14: [1d20=19] 33
34:31 <Brunius> Hits
34:33 <Brunius> Roll damage
34:37 <Bobbob> !throw 3d6+30
34:38 <diebot> Bobbob, 3d6+30: [3d6=4,4,2] 40
34:43 <Brunius> No special qualities on your lance?
34:57 <Brunius> She takes 35 damage
34:59 <Brunius> And dies anyway
35:00 <Bobbob> and I will ride-by-attack a further 5 feet west
35:13 <Cairo> cmon man 30hp will kill almost anything
35:19 <Cairo> loot the elf
35:32 <Brunius> Tasiv's Turn
35:35 <Bobbob> we're still in combat
35:38 <Cairo> oh, 1 left
35:42 <Tasiv> i think my skype's gone awol
35:43 <Bobbob> there's a mite with -20hp left
35:45 <Brunius> Throw a dart at you!
36:05 <Tasiv> is there anyone alive?
36:10 <Tasiv> is 1 alive?
36:22 <Bobbob> 1 is alive
36:29 <Bobbob> hopefully only just
36:33 <Tasiv> move 30ft east
36:44 <Tasiv> what's that X?
36:53 <Tasiv> i'll ranged attack on 1
36:54 <Brunius> All the Xs are dead peeps
36:58 <Bobbob> the one closest to you is the one with a crossbow bolt in its throat
37:00 <Brunius> Roll it
37:05 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+5
37:06 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d20+5: [1d20=12] 17
37:10 <Bobbob> the others have suspicious holes in their chest
37:13 <Brunius> Hits
37:16 <Bobbob> about the size of a lance
37:18 <Tasiv> !throw 1d8+4
37:18 <diebot> Tasiv, 1d8+4: [1d8=3] 7
37:18 <Brunius> Roll le damage
37:22 <Tasiv> gotta hurt...
37:23 <Brunius> He dies
37:24 <Tasiv> end turn
37:29 <Bobbob> I loot the elf
37:35 <Cairo> should I stabilise the elf
37:37 <Tasiv> cue music?
37:42 <Bobbob> is she unconscious or is she dead
37:46 <Brunius> Dead
37:48 <Cairo> oh
37:53 <Cairo> loot?
38:24 <Cairo> you could just take -4 and do nonlethal damage
38:52 <Cairo> how did the loot go
39:00 <Cairo> mekkis, echo
39:01 <Brunius> She has a potion of CLW, Scroll of Aid, Masterwork Breastplate, Masterwork Buckler, Dagger, Mwk Longbow w/ 20 arrows, cold iron rapier, antitoxin, blackened holy symbol of Lamashtu, noblewoman's robes, silver necklace, silver ring bearing Lamshtu's symbol
39:07 <Tasiv> can you call me in skype again?
39:24 <Cairo> jesus
39:26 <Bobbob> do I recognise Lamashtu
39:30 <Deceased> anything magical
39:31 <Bobbob> with my 15 take-10 knowledge religion
39:31 <Brunius> Do you?
39:34 <Deceased> (is the ring?)
39:40 <Brunius> The potion is magical
39:44 <Brunius> The scroll is magical
39:47 <Brunius> Nothing else is
39:47 <Cairo> do you have any text on Lamashtu with a religion check?
40:01 <Deceased>  take the arrows and the longbow
40:02 <Cairo> I don't want to roll it if you don't
40:14 <Cairo> I tkae the rapier
40:16 <Brunius> No text, it's probably in the core rulebook
40:27 <Cairo> okay 
40:36 <Brunius> Worth noting all the revellers are zoned out
40:37 <Cairo> please don't whistle into skype
40:39 <Brunius> Drunk on something
40:42 <Tasiv> deceased: did you get any inkling about that longsword just then?
40:45 <Cairo> I take the scroll of aid
40:54 <Bobbob> do I reecognise the Lamashtu
40:56 <Bobbob> what it's a deity of
40:57 <Tasiv> i meant that to be quoted
40:58 <Brunius> Nope
41:06 <Brunius> K: Religion anyone?
41:10 <Cairo> the antitoxin and the holy symbol
41:19 <Cairo> yeah I have religion, but do you really care
41:26 <Cairo> !throw 1d20+4 religion
41:27 <diebot> Cairo, religion: [1d20=17] 21
41:30 <Bobbob> I took 10
41:32 <Bobbob> for a total of 15
41:38 <Brunius> Goddess of Madness, Monsters, Nightmares
41:43 <Tasiv> lovely
41:48 <Brunius> Everything that this chick was, pretty much
42:14 <Cairo> righto
42:15 <Tasiv> "hey thanks a lot back there torvic"
42:27 <Tasiv> "how you feeling now torvic?"
42:34 <Brunius> There are some corpses on the tables around the room
42:36 <Tasiv> "better?"
42:38 <Bobbob> "Hey Torvic, is this the woman in your dreams?"
42:41 <Deceased> "Torvic, was this the 'woman'?"
42:51 <Deceased> "She doesn't look like the Queen"
42:51 <Brunius> "Y-y-y-yess"
42:58 <Tasiv> "she's dead now"
43:52 <Bobbob> "Hey Cairo, mind sprinkling some fairy dust on me?"
44:01 <Cairo> the loot is on fire
44:05 <Brunius> Everyone make a hidden perception
44:05 <Cairo> "Fairy dust?"
44:13 <Tasiv> @see
44:13 <diebot> Tasiv, Perception: [1d20=7] 13
44:14 <Bobbob> "You know, that healy magic you do so well. From my wand."
44:16 <Brunius> Hidden
44:16 <Cairo> !throw 1d20+10 perception @brunius
44:18 <Deceased> !throw 1d20+8 perception @Brunius
44:24 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception @Brunius
45:26 <Bobbob> Cairo?
45:52 <Cairo> what
46:00 <Bobbob> [1:43:55 PM] <+Bobbob> "You know, that healy magic you do so well. From my wand."
46:04 <Deceased> .ms casts detect magic
46:11 <Tasiv> !throw 1d20+7 perception @brunius
46:25 <Tasiv> subtract one from that
46:27 * Deceased casts Diabolic Healing on Bobbob 
46:28 <Cairo> oh
46:33 <Cairo> !throw 1d8+1
46:33 <diebot> Cairo, 1d8+1: [1d8=5] 6
46:41 <Bobbob> 43/43 hp, 48 charges on my wand
47:47 <Cairo> not a combat simulator
47:48 <Brunius> Righto
48:01 <Bobbob> if no one says anything about seeing or noticing something
48:06 <Brunius> Everyone done with the perception stuff?
48:07 <Bobbob> I will go and check out the door behind the throne
48:28 <Deceased> can we have a quick lunch break?
48:35 <Brunius> We're nearly done
48:42 <Brunius> Probably 20 minutes more at most
48:42 <Deceased> "Bobbob, Wait!"
48:48 <Bobbob> I stop
48:50 <Bobbob> "What is it?"
48:58 <Brunius> I'd tell you it's done now, but there's still faction mission stuff to be completed
48:58 <Deceased> "The door has something on it"
49:05 <Bobbob> "Oh."
49:08 <Bobbob> I'll inspect the door
49:12 <Bobbob> is it pearl-shaped
49:13 <Cairo> Osirion's done I believe
49:15 * Deceased grabs a reveller and throws it in the door
49:26 <Brunius> Who's near the door, and how near?
49:29 <Bobbob> well
49:37 <Bobbob> if Deceased is warning me about the door and throwing things at it
49:39 <Bobbob> I'm standing well back
49:44 <Deceased> 15' back
49:50 <Deceased> if I can throw one that far
49:52 <Brunius> It blows up
49:54 <Bobbob> I'll go another 10 feet
49:59 <Bobbob> (from Deceased)
50:02 <Brunius> The door blows up, just to confirm
50:06 <Bobbob> ha
50:09 <Bobbob> BOOM!
50:16 <Bobbob> once the dust has settled, I'll go check out the room
50:38 <Brunius> This chamber holds a large bed, a wardrobe, and other bedroom furniture.
50:57 <Deceased> search the room
51:03 <Deceased> detect magic first
51:09 <Deceased> then take 20 for a total of 28
51:15 <Cairo> we're all standing well back unless we need to be closer
51:26 <Brunius> No magic
51:32 <Cairo> detect poison
51:41 <Brunius> No poison
51:42 <Cairo> yeah it's a key to something
51:45 <Deceased> then 28 on perception
52:04 <Cairo> I'll take 20
52:06 <Cairo> with my +10
52:11 <Cairo> so 30 to perception
52:20 <Cairo> sing it to me
52:29 <Cairo> it's not even meant to be a class skill
52:31 <Cairo> no it's too late
52:39 <Cairo> you're celebrating my perception check
52:44 <Cairo> which I guess is worth it
53:27 <Brunius> Nope
53:49 <Brunius> Are they telling you?
54:24 <Brunius> Are we done here?
54:28 <Cairo> "There's some art that depicts distinctly Osirion ruins on a mountain peak."
54:31 <Brunius> You guys going back to civilisation?
54:32 * Cairo points to the north wall
54:40 <Cairo> "It's the same as the one we passed on the way here."
55:22 <Bobbob> as far as I'm aware we still have no idea what the pearl does
55:48 <Tasiv> "yeah we haven't sorted out the pearl thing"
56:14 <Brunius> You rescued Lyrehawk, yeah?
56:15 <Cairo> Brunius: going back now is going to fail our mission, isn't it
56:19 <Cairo> yeah
56:24 <Brunius> Nope
56:32 <Cairo> so what does the pearl unlock?
56:33 <Brunius> You didn't figure out what the pearl does, but other stuff is good
56:42 <Brunius> Flashback to the trap
56:45 <Cairo> well we need to figure that out first?
56:50 <Brunius> Yeah
56:58 <Brunius> Nah
57:01 <Brunius> Not that one
57:04 <Brunius> The one at the very start
57:08 <Tasiv> the secret door?
57:11 <Brunius> glory of kings art they support
57:11 <Brunius> Yeah
57:16 <Tasiv> with the depressed buttons
57:30 <Brunius> If you rolled higher on perception, you'd see the pearl shortcut
57:38 <Brunius> Yeah
57:43 <Bobbob> before we go back
57:44 <Brunius> But you didn't roll high enough on perception
57:46 <Bobbob> I want to find the glowing moss
57:48 <Bobbob> and the trade route
57:52 <Bobbob> that Torvic told us about before
57:54 <Brunius> Yep
57:58 <Bobbob> do I need to do anything
57:59 <Bobbob> or is it Done
58:05 <Brunius> The trade route is done
58:10 <Bobbob> and the moss?
58:18 <Brunius> the moss I'll assume you grabbed from the derro room
58:25 <Brunius> I think everyone's got their faction missions
58:29 <Bobbob> if that was the glowing moss I needed, sure
58:49 <Cairo> if we're done and dusted, we should go I guess
58:50 <Brunius> Yeah, everyones got everything
58:56 <Brunius> Once the PCs emerge from the caves, Torvic leaves to 
58:56 <Brunius> return to his home and spread word of his discovery 
58:56 <Brunius> among the dwarf kingdoms. Unless Torvic dies, other 
58:56 <Brunius> dwarves soon arrive, eager to reclaim the Gallery of 
58:56 <Brunius> Wonders. Eventually, because of the party’s discovery, 
58:56 <Brunius> dwarven craf tsmen in the Five Kings Mountains 
58:56 <Brunius> rediscover some of the techniques of their lost master
58:56 <Brunius> artisan. This gives the PCs a small bit of celebrity with 
58:57 <Brunius> the dwarves of the Five Kings Mountains.
58:58 <Cairo> if we can expect 2 prestige when we get back
58:58 <Bobbob> we'll go back to civilisation
59:03 <Bobbob> and brag about how we killed everything
59:03 <Brunius> You rescued Lyrehawk yeah?
59:06 <Bobbob> yeah
59:08 <Bobbob> I cut the chains
59:11 <Bobbob> even though cairo told me not to
59:15 <Cairo> yeah we rescued Lyrehawk
59:16 <Bobbob> I said look cairo, shut your pie hole, I'm releasing this person
59:21 <Cairo> I told you to be cautious yo
59:25 <Cairo> he could have killed us
59:33 <Brunius> If Lyrehawk is rescued, the PCs soon discover that she 
59:33 <Brunius> has influential friends among the Andoren Eagle Knights 
59:33 <Brunius> n Almas. The knights offer the PCs a lavish feast and 
59:33 <Brunius> gift them ten  +1 fey bane arrows.
59:54 <Brunius> And that's game
00:10 Tasiv is now known as tristen
00:13 <Brunius> I'll do your chronicle sheets later today :)
00:14 Bobbob is now known as Ballig
00:16 <Ballig> xp plzzzzzzz
00:19 <tristen> awesome! cheers!
00:27 <Ballig> can we have an indication of gold
00:29 <tristen> thanks heaps brunius
00:33 <Cairo> gg
00:35 Cairo is now known as Avatar
00:41 <tristen> aye
00:43 <Brunius> 1251
00:46 <Avatar> nice
00:47 <Avatar> any boon?
01:01 <Ballig> I'm willing to run we be goblins this afternoon or tonight for anyone who hasn't played it
01:04 <Brunius> +2 on talking to Dwarfs on all cha based checks
01:54 <Avatar> sweet
01:54 <Ballig> Bobbob is level 5 now
02:00 <Avatar> I'm out for the rest of the day
02:05 <Ballig> do I take a second level of fighter or a fourth level of cavalier
02:10 <Ballig> yeah you've played we be goblins anyway though
04:40 <Ballig> I would specifically be interested in running it with Thelen and Brunius and maybe Spaceshot
07:48 <tristen> i think thawne may lob in to play wbg with any luck
08:39 <Ballig> yeah that's pretty easy, he uses a pregen goblin for it
08:52 <tristen> yeah it's a good place to start (worked for me!)
09:07 <tristen> hey i don't suppose tasiv can level up after that lot?
09:30 <Ballig> I think he can
09:34 <Ballig> he should be on 6xp now
09:36 <Ballig> so he'll be level 3
09:42 <tristen> yeah he was on 5 prior to that
09:46 <tristen> sweet!
10:00 <tristen> i'll hop to it
10:20 <tristen> i'll give thelen a nudge
10:28 <tristen> see if i can get him on for wbg
10:32 <tristen> did you have a time in mind?
11:29 <Ballig> I'm happy to start any time in the next 6 hours
11:48 <Avatar> um
11:50 <Avatar> Cairo levels up
12:13 <Ballig> ha, so Cairo and Bobbob are on the same number of xp
12:15 <Avatar> Mekkis: I'm assuming you've already reported the last credit for Cairo 
12:50 <tristen> heya ballig: thawne's pfs id: 42465
12:58 <tristen> can you fix him up with a u/p
13:01 <Ballig> cool
13:16 <Ballig> he has an account on the website, if he wants a character he has to give me a name
13:26 <Thawne> Thawne
13:32 <Brunius> I'm gonna need everyone's PFS number again
13:44 <tristen> 35604-1
13:49 <tristen> (tasiv)
14:36 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+7 day job craft weaponsmith
14:36 <diebot> Ballig, day job craft weaponsmith: [1d20=4] 11
18:58 <Thawne> # 42465-1 Thawne Ironbreaker
19:45 <Ballig> Thawne: character added
20:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> yay, confusion time XD
20:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> thwane and thwang
20:16 <Ballig> ha
20:22 <tristen> double tab that!
20:23 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: do you want to play We Be Goblins sometime today?
20:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> possibly, but I doubt it, the missus wants to do stuff together tonight
20:59 <Ballig> missing out, it's a pretty fun scenario
21:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> bet it is
21:18 <tristen> ballig: thelen's on skype but no response as yet
21:52 <Avatar> 22871-2
21:56 <Avatar> osirion
23:11 <Avatar> oh, new feat at 5th level
23:13 <Brunius> Just waiting for Deceased now
23:24 <Avatar> I have no idea what to take
23:28 <Ballig> you know, I really need to remember to use my challenges
23:31 <Ballig> I think I've used one, ever
23:33 <Brunius> Urgh, gotta register this on the paizo site
23:37 <tristen> !findchar Deceased
23:37 <diebot> tristen, Character: Deceased, number: 285( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=285 )
23:47 <Ballig> Brunius: Mekkis will be happy to report it
24:00 <Brunius> I've reported before
24:04 <Brunius> It's just a PITA
24:10 <Avatar> it sure is
24:15 <Ballig> yeah
24:17 <Avatar> I don't know whether it's better for one of us to report or each of us to report it
24:26 <Avatar> I've sort of been tossing it up in the air
24:27 <tristen> pfft no pfs id
24:39 <Avatar> the thing that really bothers me is when I'm waiting on mekkis to report something, because I have no control over it
24:41 <tristen> for deceased i mean
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25:02 <Ballig> haha, pram warehouse
26:14 <Brunius> Ah, looks like Beggar's Pearl is S01-037
26:43 <Avatar> what's a good cleric feat
26:48 <Avatar> did we work out anything for mekkis lsat night
26:53 <Brunius> Selective Channelling :P
27:02 <Avatar> I already have that
27:10 <Avatar> greater selective channelling that lets you take out an extra person would've been nice
27:19 <Ballig> well, level 5 gets you level 3 spells
27:25 <Ballig> are there any good level 3 spells that you might want a feat to use?
27:28 <Ballig> (spell focus, e.g.)
27:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> extra channelling?
28:26 <Avatar> I already have extra channelling too
28:27 <Ballig> blindness/deafness is such a powerful spell
29:17 <Ballig> Avatar: from 150 feet away, as a standard action, you can make one living creature blind permanently
29:43 <Brunius> "Prestige does not count. Missing character number. "
29:45 <Brunius> Crap
29:50 <Ballig> Brunius: it will say that
29:51 <Ballig> it's lying to you
29:59 <Brunius> Why is that?
30:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> Versatile Channeler from Ultimate Magic
30:10 <Brunius> How do I get past it?
30:16 <Ballig> I think it says that after you put in the PFS number but before you put in the character number
30:21 <Ballig> and it doesn't update once you put in the character number
30:22 <Ballig> just ignore it
30:23 <Ballig> it will count
31:03 <Deceased> 10339-3
31:12 <Brunius> Yeah I found that in our Logs
31:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, why does it matter whether it's reported now or in three weeks time?
32:12 <Brunius> Ballig: Guess what? Didn't save
32:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar; ultimate magic has a few feats which could be of use
32:32 <Ballig> Brunius: of course it does, if it's detected the character (and given you their name and their faction) it will save
32:34 <Ballig> you just hit "Save and exit"
32:44 <Ballig> !findchar Cairo
32:44 <diebot> Ballig, Character: Cairo, number: 270( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=270 )
32:46 <Brunius> Why have I only got one table of credit.
32:56 <Ballig> Cairo can't use versatile channel, wrong alignment
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33:40 <Mekkis> oh
33:42 <Mekkis> and 
33:51 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+13 dayjob roll
33:52 <diebot> Mekkis, dayjob roll: [1d20=3] 16
34:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> Warrior priest from UM could be of use
35:12 <Brunius> I only have one table of credit -_-
35:21 <Brunius> Why do I only have one table of credit?
35:25 <Ballig> it didn't report it
35:35 <Ballig> it doesn't show up on my sessions
35:54 <Ballig> that send didn't work
36:28 <Ballig> failed
36:36 <Brunius> Ah, I know why it didn't work
36:47 <Brunius> I put it in with logical date format, not American date format
36:56 <Ballig> ah yes
37:00 <Ballig> that annoys me too
37:02 <Mekkis> little-endian
37:10 <Mekkis> rather than middle-endian
37:12 <Ballig> what did you just call me
38:02 <Mekkis> what's the name of the Event?
38:13 <Brunius> PFS on IRC for UTC +10
38:19 <Avatar> uh, crap
38:23 <Avatar> why didn't I get that temple vanity?
38:41 <Mekkis> what event code?
38:49 <Mekkis> or are you duplicating events?
38:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, why does it matter whether it's reported now or in three weeks time?
39:14 <Ballig> so people can easily check how many sessions they've played
39:17 <Ballig> and how much prestige they should have
39:35 <Ballig> so they can be certain they have the right number of chronicle sheets and the prestige is added up properly
39:46 <Ballig> Brunius: you don't seem to be able to DCC send, email it to me
40:26 <Mekkis> after a con, it can take up to a month for it to be reported
40:29 <Mekkis> sometime more
40:46 <Mekkis> hell, I've still got a session from Conquest that hasn't been reported yet
40:50 <Brunius> Sent Ballig
40:53 <Ballig> thanks
40:58 <Ballig> two wrongs don't make a right
41:06 <Brunius> 9,854 Mekkis
41:09 <Avatar> ballig I had an idea about how you could do up a PFS section
41:17 <Avatar> which might not even take that much work
42:00 <Brunius> Seems to have reported now
42:05 <Avatar> `op
42:06 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
42:11 * Avatar removes voice from Avatar Ballig Mekkis tristen
42:28 Brunius has changed the topic to: Test?
42:30 <Ballig> I'm not sure whether I should take Fighter or Cavalier
42:31 <Ballig> errr
42:33 <Ballig> can you not do that
42:36 <Brunius> It wasn't set
42:37 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Ballig
42:42 Ballig has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 31st 10.30am (Brunius, continued game) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net/
42:42 * Brunius removes channel operator status from Brunius
43:02 Ballig has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat 31st We Be Goblins | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net/
43:22 <Brunius> -
43:22 <Brunius> #d&d No topic is set.
43:25 <Ballig> Brunius: you forgot all the info at the bottom
43:32 <Brunius> I did indeed.
44:20 <Ballig> yeah really not sure if I want fighter or cavalier. cavalier will make my wolf slightly more powerful, but fighter will give me another feat and if I take two levels in fighter I get -1 ACP and +1 dex to AC
44:58 <Mekkis> Ballig, if you take Boon Companion, your wolf still gets more powerful
45:11 <Ballig> is that a feat
45:14 <Mekkis> and you also get to benefit from fighter for the next few levels
45:15 <Mekkis> yes
45:31 <Ballig> ultimate magic?
45:38 <Mekkis> Seeker of Secrets
45:43 <Avatar> I'm sure someone recommended me a feat 
45:49 <Avatar> saying that fleet was too shit
45:52 <Mekkis> !feet Boon Companion
45:53 <Ballig> yeah I forget what it was
45:57 <Ballig> haha feet
45:58 <Mekkis> !feat Boon Companion
45:59 <diebot> Mekkis, Calculate your animal companion/familiar abilities as if they were higher.
46:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> fleet is overrated
46:17 <Avatar> fleet is good when you only have 20ft of movement and rely on touch spells
46:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> boon companion allows you to count your companion/familiar as 4 levels higher, up to your character level
46:32 <Ballig> I think I recommended mithral armour, if that counts
46:42 <Avatar> er
46:43 <Ballig> boon companion sure does seem useful
46:51 <Avatar> I think mithral armour gives me problems now, because I already have +1 breastplate
47:01 <Ballig> yeah
47:11 <Ballig> you'll get half the breastplate cost back
47:13 <Ballig> which is like 650gp
47:25 <Mekkis> Avatar, rod of reach is good for that
47:36 <Mekkis> then you no longer rely on touch spells
47:44 <Avatar> where is this rod of reach
47:48 <Mekkis> APG
47:48 <Brunius> Now, Ballig?
48:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> best item ever for a cleric
48:16 <Ballig> did you put in the event name
48:27 <Brunius> Noe
48:30 <Brunius> Nope
48:31 <Brunius> Just the code
48:32 <Ballig> why not
48:41 <Brunius> Because as long as the code is there it's legal
48:47 <Ballig> :p
48:55 <Mekkis> is it?
49:09 <Avatar> one spell per day
49:11 <Avatar> at 3000gp
49:15 <Avatar> I don't think so man
49:21 <Mekkis> three spells per day
49:31 <Avatar> 3 spells per day at 24500gp
49:35 <Mekkis> what?
49:44 <Ballig> that's the level, isn't it
49:52 <Mekkis> either you're reading it wrong
49:53 <Avatar> is that not the difference between lesser, normal, greater
49:53 <Ballig> the spell level
49:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar can't read
49:57 <Mekkis> or I've been wrong for ages
49:57 <Ballig> no
49:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> stop skimming
50:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's 3 uses per day
50:02 <Ballig> the difference is spell level
50:02 <Avatar> spaceshot, go jump
50:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> lesser is up to level 3
50:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> normal is up to level 6
50:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> and greater is up to level 9
50:16 <Avatar> the description doesn't suggest that 
50:26 <Mekkis> The wielder can cast up to three spells per day with a one-step
50:26 <Mekkis> increase in their range category (such as from close to medium,
50:26 <Mekkis> or medium to long) as though using the Reach Spell feat.
50:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> I was using it with Fredrick in EM
50:36 <Mekkis> _up to three spells per day_
50:44 <Ballig> where does it suggest one
50:50 <Avatar> right, but where does it say spell level
50:55 <Brunius> Mekkis, how much did you get from your day job?
50:57 <Ballig> The wielder can cast up to three spells per day with a one-step 
50:57 <Ballig> increase in their range category (such as from close to medium, 
50:57 <Ballig> or medium to long) as though using the Reach Spell feat.
51:04 <Ballig> you go up and read the description for metamagic rods
51:07 <Mekkis> 10 or 15gp
51:10 <Mekkis> I think
51:11 <Mekkis> 10
51:17 <Avatar> oh right
51:18 <Ballig> Normal metamagic 
51:18 <Ballig> rods can be used with spells of 6th level or lower. Lesser 
51:19 <Ballig> rods  can  be  used  with  spells  of  3rd  level  or  lower,  while 
51:19 <Ballig> greater rods can be used with spells of 9th level or lower.
51:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> I know my rods
51:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> BIATCH
51:54 <Avatar> that doesn't make you less of a dick, biatch
51:57 <Ballig> so three times a day you could cast a touch spell of third level or lower as if it were close range
52:04 <Ballig> (so 25ft + 5ft/2 levels)
52:09 <Avatar> yeah that is decent
52:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> it is sweet for a cleric/oracle
52:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't see it as useful for any other caster
52:21 <Ballig> it's definitely worth considering a purchase
52:22 <Avatar> is it a moot point now that I've got fleet
52:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> druid maybe
52:33 <Ballig> I don't think it's moot
52:33 <Avatar> armour seems a higher priority
52:44 <Avatar> the next upgrade is 2000gp isn't it
52:45 <Brunius> tristen? Did you have a day job?
52:47 <Ballig> it means you could heal someone who is ~50 feet away
52:48 <Mekkis> Avatar, get a whip
52:51 <Ballig> by moving and then casting with the rod
52:55 <Avatar> my str is +0
53:00 <Mekkis> so?
53:04 <Mekkis> the aid another action still works
53:04 <Ballig> next upgrade is 4000 I think
53:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> or you could cast with rod, and equip your crossbow
53:15 <Avatar> remind me how aid another works
53:18 <Avatar> with attacks
53:19 <Ballig> you roll against AC 10
53:26 <Ballig> if you succeed, you give someone else a +2 to their attack
53:36 <Avatar> I'd rather make my own attack
53:40 <Ballig> basically you'd be using the whip to distract someone
53:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> is there a rod master feat in pathfinder?
54:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar; if you are out of ideas, or don't want warrior priest, you can always get toughness
54:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'd suggest you at least look at warrior priest though, +1 init and +2 concentration on defensive casting
55:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> from UM
55:38 <Ballig> he'd be looking at a feat to make him more useful in combat I imagine
55:42 <Ballig> weapon focus (whip)!
56:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> warrior priest does help
56:27 * Brunius has offered 37Deceased.pdf (118525 bytes)
56:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't know what he does in combat yet though
56:54 * DCC RECV connection established to Brunius [109.235.52.28:57654]
57:28 <Ballig> 52/52 hitpoints is pretty sexy
57:46 <Brunius> Avatar, Mekkis, if you give me your email I can send you your chronicle sheet
57:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> wha?
57:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> at level 5?
58:03 <Brunius> DCC send doesn't seem to work
58:18 <Mekkis> it's because you haven't forwarded the port correcly
58:41 <Brunius> Probably
58:50 <Brunius> I think the router is just fucked
58:53 <Ballig> yeah at level 5
59:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> !find bobbob
59:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> bah
59:19 <Ballig> !findchar Bobbob
59:19 <diebot> Ballig, Character: Bobbob, number: 269( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=269 )
00:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> you haven't said what that other 1 is
00:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> in levels
00:41 <Ballig> cavalier/fighter
00:42 <Ballig> 3/1
00:51 <Ballig> the brackets are specific to cavalier
01:04 <Ballig> it's space-saving right now
01:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh right, yours is all over the place :P
01:14 <Ballig> just that bit
01:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> so hp past level 1 is half+1?
01:42 <Brunius> bbcode more plz
01:42 <Ballig> right
01:46 <Ballig> so 10+3+1 at first level
01:53 <Ballig> and 6+3+1 at the other levels
02:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> so you're using favored there?
02:19 <Ballig> yes, except for the fighter levels
02:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> makes sense I guess
03:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> does con do anything for cav besides HP?
03:07 <Ballig> fortitude
03:43 <Ballig> before you critique the stats, this was a pregen
05:21 <Avatar> what's your con
05:42 <Ballig> 16 (+3)
05:46 <Brunius> Hmmm
05:54 <Ballig> it makes me the tank !
05:55 <Avatar> yeah that's not bad
05:56 <Brunius> I have to print 3 sheets before Arcanacon
05:58 <Avatar> could save your life
06:04 <Brunius> I wonder if the printer is working atm
08:34 <Ballig> take pictures of them
08:38 <Ballig> and take the pictures with you to the con
10:17 <Brunius> Ha
10:28 <Brunius> How do I get the picture to the con?
10:32 <Mekkis> Brunius, I can probably print off your chronicle sheets before I come down
10:45 <Mekkis> I imagine my signing hand will be sore
10:51 <Brunius> Haha
11:03 <Ballig> take the picture with your phone
11:03 <Brunius> I can probably do it at the local library
11:38 <Brunius> If the printer still isn't working
11:46 <Brunius> Or bully one of my friends into it
11:56 <Mekkis> I'll print all your chronicle sheets on one piece of paper
13:45 <Brunius> Haha
13:59 <Brunius> Then you'll sign it at the same scale?
14:36 <Avatar> fuck I wish I remembered that feat
15:33 <Mekkis> I'll plot it on A0
15:59 <Avatar> holy shit, bodyguard is a sweet feat for a rogue or ninja
16:06 <Brunius> What's that?
16:10 <Avatar> Prerequisite: Combat Ref lexes.
16:10 <Avatar> Benefit: When an adjacent ally is attacked, you may use
16:11 <Avatar> an attack of opportunity to attempt the aid another action
16:11 <Avatar> to improve your ally’s AC. You may not use the aid another
16:11 <Avatar> action to improve your ally’s attack roll with this attack.
16:11 <Avatar> Normal: Aid another is a standard action.
16:29 <Brunius> Seems crap to me
16:31 <Avatar> well good for them
16:34 <Avatar> shit for you i guess
17:13 <Avatar> I guess you're also bodyguarding or sneak attacking, not both
21:19 <Ballig> yeah
21:25 <Ballig> you could otherwise get some extra sneak attack damage on that AOO
21:43 <Avatar> you'd be in the wrong spot for the sneak attack
21:51 <Avatar> unless you hopefully got a low initative
22:09 <Avatar> but even then the bonus is brief
22:18 <Avatar> I guess it'd be good to protect a spellcaster
22:43 <Avatar> did anyone else level up this game?
22:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope
22:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
23:04 <Ballig> I could take Furious Focus, Death from Above, Weapon Focus
23:04 <Ballig> hmmm
23:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig did
23:10 <Ballig> I did
23:13 <Ballig> and Tasiv did
23:25 <tristen> aye
23:39 <tristen> which i'm stoked about
24:06 <tristen> hey ballig i take it back about the gui/browser thing
24:18 <Ballig> ha
24:18 <tristen> gui in this case is better
24:26 <Avatar> maybe I should get a tower shield
24:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
24:33 <Ballig> you likely don't have tower shield proficienc
24:35 <Ballig> +y
24:39 <Avatar> ah but I have a feat to choose
24:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> unless he took a level in fighter
24:57 <Avatar> I don't need no level in fighter
25:21 <Ballig> I could get Low Profile, gives me +1 to AC versus ranged
25:28 <Ballig> but that seems useless when I could just get dodge instead
25:39 <Ballig> Avatar: I get two feats
25:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> get something out of that improved unarmed strike
25:54 <Ballig> get improved initiative
25:59 <Avatar> fuck improved initative
26:02 <Avatar> I would rather get a tower shield
26:08 <Avatar> and stay flatfooted !
26:25 <Avatar> I have no dex anyway
26:27 <Ballig> what domains is Cairo
26:29 <Avatar> so I have no dex bonus to lose
26:38 <Avatar> healing, knowledge
26:45 <Avatar> I only took healing because I thought I would get a +1 to healing spells
26:47 <Ballig> oh
26:50 <Ballig> yeah
26:53 <Ballig> too bad you didn't take fire
26:56 <Avatar> that's a bit shit
27:02 <Avatar> why would I have taken it otherwise
27:28 <Avatar> actually the 6th level power is quite good
27:35 <Avatar> it's a better version of the +1
27:39 <Avatar> and I'm only 3 scenarios away from that
28:16 <Ballig> yeah
28:25 <Avatar> the knowledge one is cool too
28:32 <Avatar> clairvoyance as spell-like ability
28:33 <Ballig> the level 1 ability isn't that bad when you want to wake up a captive
28:35 <Ballig> without using resources
28:42 <Avatar> cleric level times per day
29:03 <Avatar> DMs aren't going to like me using that one
29:26 <Avatar> I get speak with dead as a domain spell now
29:31 <Avatar> (and cure serious wounds)
29:59 <Ballig> cure serious wounds is pretty great though
30:05 <Avatar> oh here we go, now I can cast deeper darkness
30:07 <Ballig> you know
30:14 <Ballig> I wonder if you could use speak with dead to complete a faction mission
30:22 <Ballig> for example, one that said you have to tell someone why you're killing them before you kill them
30:23 <Avatar> yeah probably
30:27 <Avatar> YEP
30:29 <Ballig> if it would still consider a success if you talk to him after you kill him
30:39 <Avatar> I'd allow it
31:07 <Avatar> almost all of the 3rd level cleric spells are pretty shit hot
31:13 <Brunius> You know in Assassin's Creed?
31:19 <Avatar> water breathing, stone shape
31:22 <Avatar> remove disease, remove curse
31:28 <Avatar> continual flame, deeper darkness
31:28 <Brunius> When you jump at them and then go into that talky thing before they die
31:31 <Avatar> dispel magic
31:32 <Brunius> That'd be sweet
31:33 <Ballig> is break enchantment level 3
31:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> restoration
31:53 <Avatar> no, 5th
31:57 <Ballig> damn
32:00 <Ballig> regenerate!
32:27 <Avatar> that's just a few of the shithot spells
32:33 <Avatar> remove blindness/deafness
32:50 <Brunius> You guys didn't go to sleep inside the gallery at all, did you?
32:58 <Avatar> no
33:01 <Brunius> That's a pity
33:01 <Ballig> Avatar: blindness/deafness will be great in combat
33:07 <Ballig> Brunius: we're not that silly :p
33:08 <Brunius> There were some cool rules for if you did
33:09 <Avatar> I didn't actually cast any spells throughtout the scenario
33:22 <Avatar> just cures from the wands
33:34 <Avatar> that seemed pretty easy for an uptiered scenario
33:47 <Avatar> I'm sure we've played tier 1-2 ones that were harder than that
34:13 <Brunius> Yeah
34:21 <Brunius> Darkest Vengeance, I'm looking at you
34:27 <Avatar> haha yeah
34:31 <Ballig> wonder how hard darkest vengeance would be uptiered
34:53 <Avatar> I was saying darkest vengeance is probably a valid tier 4-5 for what we played
35:08 <Avatar> maybe it wouldn't have been so hard with darkvision
35:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar; you could get channel smite
35:22 <Avatar> I can't smite
35:27 <Avatar> isn't that a paladin ability
35:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> it gives you smite
35:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> !feat channel smite
35:37 <diebot> Spaceshot_tm2, Channel energy through your attack
35:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
35:50 <Ballig> he's shit at melee attacks
35:54 <Brunius> !Feat Precise Shot
35:58 <Brunius> !feat Precise Shot
35:58 <diebot> Brunius, No cover or concealment chance on ranged attacks
36:10 <Avatar> does that only affect undead?
36:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> well avatar, what do you do in combat?
36:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> and I'll work from there
36:23 <Avatar> heal
36:29 <Brunius> 'tis true
36:30 <Avatar> it's a healer build, tank secondarily
36:34 <Ballig> take spell focus (necromancy)
36:46 <Brunius> Ohhh
36:51 <Brunius> I might get a ring of sustenance
36:52 <Avatar> I don't want to get vs undead stuff because we never come across undead
36:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> deflect arrows :P
37:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> !feat deflect arrows
37:08 <diebot> Spaceshot_tm2, Avoid one ranged attack per round
37:15 <Brunius> !feat Catch Arrows
37:21 <Brunius> Wonder what it's called
37:23 <Brunius> I remember it's there
37:33 <Ballig> snatch
37:35 <Avatar> deflect arrows
37:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> !feat snatch arrows
37:35 <diebot> Spaceshot_tm2, Catch one ranged attack per round
37:40 <Brunius> That's the one
37:51 <Avatar> I wouldn't get that
37:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> deflect requires dex 13 and imp unarmed
37:54 <Avatar> better to get a tower shield
37:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> ???
38:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> why do you want a tower shield?
38:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> you'll waste a feat
38:31 <Avatar> what's the AC bonus
38:56 <Brunius> 42
38:59 <Avatar> +4
39:04 <Avatar> for some reason I thought it was +10
39:13 <Avatar> +4 is still pretty sexy though
39:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
39:21 <Avatar> that would put me on AC 23
39:23 <Ballig> +4 from base
39:26 <Ballig> yo ualready have +2
39:28 <Ballig> so really it's +2
39:30 <Brunius> It's 45lb man
39:42 <Brunius> 'sif you can carry that
39:53 <Avatar> fuck I forgot I had a shield
39:54 <Brunius> Might be good for a fighter, but a cleric?
40:04 <Ballig> you could take Dodge and get +1 to AC
40:05 <Ballig> if you want AC that bad
40:16 <Avatar> no a feat for +4 AC is superior to a feat for +1 AC
40:17 <Brunius> DCC Send of 37Bobbob.pdf to Ballig timed out
40:24 <Avatar> either of those aren't options anymore
40:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's not +4
40:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's a feat for +2
40:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> and -2 to attack
40:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> and a waste of a standard action to get the most use out of it
40:52 <Ballig> it's +2 AC
40:55 <Ballig> not +4
41:34 <Avatar> the save feats are actually decent, if you get the improved version as well
41:45 <Avatar> +2 for the first save feat, and a reroll option for the improved version
43:47 <Ballig> I might get Amateur Gunslinger
43:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> can't
43:56 <Ballig> excuse me
44:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> not PFS able
44:01 <Brunius> You can't
44:05 <Brunius> PFS won't let you
44:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> yup
44:09 <Ballig> OH, WAVING THE RULES AT ME ARE YOU?
44:10 <Ballig> I'M OUT OF HERE
44:12 ChanOP gives channel half-operator status to Ballig
44:12 <Brunius> Yeah
44:16 <Avatar> haha
44:17 <Brunius> Now go ragewuit
44:20 <Brunius> quit even
44:20 <Ballig> whoops, forgot I made an alias for /hop
44:24 <Brunius> ha
44:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> GET TO THE WHAAMBULANCE
44:31 <Avatar> whaaaambulance
44:37 <Ballig> haha
44:40 <Ballig> gods he was a dick
44:44 <Ballig> I didn't like him even before that
44:49 <Ballig> but when he did that I'm thinking you know what, good riddance
45:14 <Ballig> all he did was complain the whole way about everything, even though none of it was any different to playing 3.5
45:24 <Avatar> did you all think that
45:55 <Brunius> Nope
46:06 <Brunius> I liked him :S
46:08 <Ballig> you didn't think he was complaining?
46:15 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2?
46:23 <Ballig> "this isn't a combat simulator", "this is like algebra"
46:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> he's as bad as my dad (Who has been DMing for a while) about OSR being better than pathfinder/3.5/whatever
46:38 <Brunius> He was complaining, but I have to deal with my brother.
46:44 <Brunius> Comparison
46:50 <Ballig> so you're saying my tolerance level is too low
46:55 <Brunius> Nope
47:03 <Avatar> just that his tolerance levels are high
47:11 <Ballig> are they... OVER 9000?
47:28 <Brunius> The fact that he ragequit shows that he was too much of a dick to have around for long
48:03 <Avatar> hmmm touch of serenity will be a good feat for me, when I get a BAB of +8
48:03 <Ballig> I think Avatar was th ere for the algebra comment, though not sure if he heard it
48:08 <Ballig> it was when you were making fort saves
48:09 <Avatar> I missed it
48:11 <Ballig> and I was telling you what to add to it
48:19 <Brunius> Isn't serenity that ship in firefly?
48:24 <Ballig> and he's like "when did this game become an algebra class?"
48:31 <Thelen> yea
48:33 <Ballig> "er, this isn't any different to 3.5" "yeah but we have to add all these things to our roll!"
48:34 <Avatar> I thought he was okay up until he left
48:48 <Avatar> I thought not preparing the cure was stupid, but you can play how you want to play
49:00 <Ballig> yeah the way he decided to play was stupid though
49:05 <Ballig> the whole "Bad kitty! <wastes my turn>"
49:13 <Ballig> and the "I don't care whether my character lives or dies, so you can't hurt me"
49:26 <Avatar> I thought he just didn't understand the rules for stealing my gold
49:30 <Ballig> he did
49:32 <Avatar> in a normal campaign that is perfectly acceptable
49:34 <Ballig> I explained that to him beforehand
49:53 <Ballig> but the fact that he interpreted your comment as whining and "waving the rules in his face" was just stupid
49:59 <Ballig> he came into the whole thing biased against organised play
50:17 <Ballig> and just took the first opportunity to say "see! I TOLD you organised play is shit!"
50:59 <Avatar> maybe he just didn't want to finish out the game
51:03 <Avatar> what he was did was pretty odd
51:04 <Brunius> I wonder if there's a feat to make finding stuff faster
51:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> skill focus (perception) XD
51:23 <Avatar> there's no rules on how long finding stuff takes
51:25 <Brunius> Like going through a bag of holding
51:34 <Ballig> there is a feat that gives you +2 perception and +2 something else
51:40 <Brunius> I'd pay a feat for going through a bag of holding faster
51:47 <Ballig> instead of move action?
51:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh, quick draw can help
51:49 <Brunius> Move instead of full round
51:49 <Avatar> how long does it take to go through a bag of holding?
51:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> full round
51:57 <Ballig> oh
51:59 <Ballig> yeah
51:59 <Brunius> Full round if there's more than a backpack of stuff in there
52:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> handy haversack is move
52:03 <Ballig> that's called putting things in easy reach
52:09 <Ballig> like on your belt, in your b elt pouch
52:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> handy haversack > bag of holding
52:29 <Ballig> things you need to use in combat shouldn't be shoved inside your backpack
52:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure do with a haversack :P
53:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> the handy haversack knows what you want to take out, and is up the top of the bag, so it's always a move action
53:32 <Ballig> what if I don't want it to know
53:35 <Brunius> Might be good
53:46 <Brunius> Maybe I should put a bag of holding inside a handy haversack
53:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> hahaha
53:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> blackhole effect
53:58 <Ballig> boom
54:03 <Brunius> It doesn't say it
54:07 <Ballig> that's how the dragon in LSK died
54:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> I think it's a blackhole if haversack in bad of holding
54:16 <Brunius> Only for portable hole and bag of holding
54:23 <Ballig> it's anything that is an extra dimensional space
54:29 <Ballig> is a handy hoversack extra dimensional
54:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> haversack is like a bag of holding
54:42 <Ballig> yeah, it's extra dimensional then
54:43 <Brunius> It doesn't say so
54:46 <Ballig> it will explode or implode
54:51 <Brunius> Oh, yes it does
54:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> but slightly smaller, doesn't have multiple sizes, cost slightly more, but is more effecient
54:56 <Brunius> It's like a bag of holding
55:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> yup
55:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> but isn't
55:21 <Brunius> Maybe I should get one of them.
56:06 <Brunius> Ballig: Have you got seekers of secrets?
57:03 <Ballig> Brunius: yeah
57:56 <Brunius> Do you remember what ioun stones do when they're in a wayfinder?
58:16 <Ballig> uhm, from memory they work the same
58:23 <Ballig> but they don't float around you so people can't snatch them?
58:26 <Brunius> Hmm
01:34 <Avatar> ooo channel energy 3d6
01:38 <Brunius> Ha
01:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> yup
01:58 <Ballig> Avatar: it's too bad you can't neutral aligned
02:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> always good to keep 1 channel use for at night
02:09 <Ballig> you could take the versatile channel and spend 2 charges to do 3d6 damage in a 30 radius burst
02:23 <Avatar> that would kill all of you
02:29 <Ballig> not with selective channeling
02:34 <Avatar> imagine the power I'd have !!
02:38 <Avatar> "oops sorry"
02:41 <Ballig> haha
02:47 <Ballig> "that one is on me"
03:31 <Avatar> it would be nice if you got channel upgrades at the opposite end of when you gain a new level of spells
03:45 <Avatar> every even level you get almost nothing, then every odd level you get overwhelmed with goods
04:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> he can't, he's good
04:25 <Avatar> yeah he said too bad i'm not neutral aligned
04:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
04:56 <Ballig> do some evil stuff and lose an alignment step
05:03 <Avatar> is there a feat that gives you an extra domain?
05:05 <Avatar> that might be nice
05:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> might be
06:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> you could get a style feat
06:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> from UC
07:06 <Brunius> Hmmm
07:17 <Avatar> man
07:19 <Brunius> Do you guys know if Amazon will accept payment from multiple sources?
07:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> hahaha
07:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> doubt it
07:30 <Avatar> I just thought hmm maybe I can make use of that improved unarmed strike I have, what feat chains does that have
07:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> at least without contacting them
07:39 <Avatar> backpedalled away from that thought pretty quickly
07:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> look at UC
07:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> there are many style feats
07:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can get so many different buffs
07:56 <Ballig> he has a style feat
08:10 <Avatar> I had one, I swapped it out because it was fucking awful
08:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> cheated
08:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> how do you swap out shit?
08:25 <Avatar> you're not supposed to
08:30 <Avatar> but it was destroying my character
08:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> cheated
08:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> CHEATED
08:44 <Avatar> well it never actually worked
08:49 <Avatar> so it's not that bad
09:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> TRUANCE TRUANCE
09:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'd love to cheat out and change my diplomacy trait and skill point
09:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> add a generic +1 to perception trait (like the one toro has)
10:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> and add the skill point in knowledge
10:09 <Avatar> is there a quicken channel feat
10:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha, I could get monkey style level 3 :P
11:25 <Avatar> there is, Quick Channel
12:09 <Avatar> channel as move action instead of standard action by spending 2 channels 
13:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> CHEATED XD
13:25 <Avatar> that might be the same one you were talking about ballig
13:31 <Avatar> don't be a dick spaceshot
14:18 <tristen> hmmm favoured terrain
14:32 <tristen> i think i'm gonna be an urban cowboy
14:57 <Brunius> You do that
15:59 <tristen> "a ranger walks into a bar"
16:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> no it's just funny that I can't do anything considered cheating, but not hurting anyone
16:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> but avatar can
16:51 <Avatar> did you use diplomacy with your character yet
17:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> not exactly
17:14 <Avatar> yes or no
17:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> I was pestered into using it to aid
17:20 <Avatar> then you used it
17:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, I was pestered
17:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> doesn't mean I wanted to use it
17:34 <Avatar> it's ultimately your choice
17:38 <Avatar> if you planned to switch it out
17:42 <Avatar> I mean cmon
18:13 <Avatar> your ability directly affected an existing game
18:35 <Avatar> the only way that feat affected my game was by having my character stand there instead of actually do something useful
18:39 <Ballig> Avatar: Brunius mentioned that
18:44 <Ballig> I can't remember the feat I mentioned
18:46 <Ballig> I wish I did, I wanted to take it on Artimus
18:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar: it still had an effect
18:55 <Avatar> I don't know what to check the logs for
18:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can't justify cheating
19:08 <Ballig> what
19:08 <Avatar> it didn't have an effect or I wouldn't have change dit out
19:11 <Ballig> why do you think he cheated
19:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> because he had a feat on his sheet
19:23 <Ballig> what feat?
19:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> played a game with that feat
19:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> a style feat
19:37 <Ballig> I don't remember him having a style feat
19:56 <Ballig> are you suggesting his character isn't PFS legal?
20:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:37.53] <@Ballig> he has a style feat
20:11 <Ballig> yeah, I was mistaken
20:15 <Ballig> that was someone else I was thinking of
20:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> uh hu
20:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> he did admit he had the feat
20:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> and then changed it
20:31 <Ballig> on his monk
20:37 <Ballig> which is in a pathfinder campaign I'm running
20:38 <Ballig> which isn't PFS
20:42 <Ballig> I said he could switch out the feat
20:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> fucking doubt it
20:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> really really fucking doubt it
20:57 <Ballig> can you prove otherwise
21:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm not trying to get his character kicked out or banned or whatever
21:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm just trying to understand why he can change something whilst someone else can't
21:35 <Ballig> because it wasn't PFS
21:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> effectivity of said change or not
21:37 <Ballig> it was another pathfinder campaign
21:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> yes it was fuckface
21:44 <Ballig> no it wasn't
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.06] <@Avatar> I had one, I swapped it out because it was fucking awful
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.12] <Spaceshot_tm2> cheated
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.15] <Spaceshot_tm2> how do you swap out shit?
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.22] <@Avatar> you're not supposed to
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.26] <@Avatar> but it was destroying my character
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.28] <Spaceshot_tm2> cheated
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.30] <Spaceshot_tm2> CHEATED
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.40] <@Avatar> well it never actually worked
22:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> [03:38.45] <@Avatar> so it's not that bad
22:13 <Ballig> yeah
22:17 <Ballig> he's talking about his other character
22:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> no he wasn't
22:21 <Ballig> in a campaign that isn't PFS
22:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> he never was
22:23 <Ballig> where I let him switch out the feat
22:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> look just because if mekkis ever heard wind of this he'd call cheating
22:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't care either way
22:52 <Ballig> that's okay, it wasn't in PFS
23:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> I bet it was
23:17 <Ballig> it's my campaign, you can call cheating all you like
23:23 <Brunius> There was something he did in PFS
23:28 <Brunius> On Cairo
23:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> see
23:32 <Ballig> yeah, he took fleet
23:33 <Brunius> I can't remember what though
23:35 <Ballig> that was pretty funny
23:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> witness
23:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> WITNESS
23:46 <Brunius> Spaceshot_tm2 wasn't around at the time, though
23:48 <Ballig> witness to what, Spaceshot?
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24:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> I could just get mekkis to send me some logs to search through
24:27 <Ballig> do that
24:31 <Brunius> What's your email, Spaceshot
24:38 <Avatar> I think quick channel is probably a waste, I'm never really short on actions
24:39 <Brunius> I'll send you logs back to Shadowrun
24:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> [email protected]
24:48 <Avatar> if it was a swift action that'd be alright, but a move action isn't enough
24:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> at least that's one I'm willing to share here :P
24:55 <Ballig> Avatar: focus on something to help you be effective in combat
24:56 <Ballig> separate to healing
25:02 <Avatar> I'm thinking saves actually
25:10 <Ballig> will that help your combat ability
25:18 <Avatar> the spells will help my combat ability
25:27 <Ballig> yeah, help your spells
25:27 <Avatar> I could've used it today if the encounters were harder
25:29 <Ballig> spell focus (necromancy)
25:39 <Avatar> why necromancy
25:42 <Ballig> blind/deafness
25:52 <Avatar> that might be solid
25:59 <Avatar> it's a pain that schools aren't listed next to cleric spells
26:03 <Ballig> yeah
26:08 <Ballig> I've felt that too
26:16 <Brunius> Sent Spaceshot_tm2
26:18 <Ballig> it's a pain when they don't list schools next to /wizard/ spells in every book that isn't core
26:54 <Ballig> Brunius: sure hope you made certain those logs didn't have your password in them anywhere
27:02 <Avatar> I was getting quite keen on those save feats
27:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
27:04 <Brunius> They don't
27:11 <Avatar> a reroll on a save would be hot shit
27:26 <Ballig> that takes two feats, though
27:30 <Ballig> and it's only on one type of save
27:40 <Avatar> yeah but it's +2 to that save as well
27:54 <Ballig> I can't say it's not useful
27:55 <Avatar> better than a cloak of resistance, I'd say
27:59 <Ballig> I just think your biggest problem is ineffectiveness in combat
28:18 <Ballig> not your inability to save against spells
28:39 <Avatar> that's easy to say now while we haven't seen any spellcasters doing 5d6 damage on fireball !
30:14 <Ballig> damn, for a second I thought the pfsrd website was going to be awesome
30:14 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
30:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> wow mavor... that is far back
30:19 <Ballig> and let you filter cleric spells by school
30:20 <Ballig> but it doesn't
30:21 <Mekkis> yesish
30:40 <Avatar> do you have a way to get a list of cleric spells with their school
30:44 <Mekkis> yep
30:49 <Mekkis> how do you want them?
30:51 <Avatar> can you send me/show me
30:55 <Avatar> csv
31:03 <Mekkis> actually
31:04 <Avatar> with short description if possible
31:19 <Mekkis> I might even have a static qt build environment for windows here
31:21 <Mekkis> let me check
31:38 <Avatar> I really have to sleep soon, fatigue is hitting me pretty hard 
31:43 <Brunius> HA
31:46 <Brunius> You napper
31:51 <Avatar> you sleeper
31:53 <Brunius> Get a ring of sustenance
31:55 <Brunius> :P
32:01 <Avatar> if only
32:14 <Mekkis> nope
32:15 <Mekkis> sorry
32:23 <Avatar> okay thanks for checking
32:33 <Mekkis> but I'll be able to get a raw extraction
32:48 <Avatar> with school?
32:55 <Mekkis> yeah
33:02 <Avatar> yeah that's all I want
35:45 <Avatar> maybe spell penetration is worth taking at this point
35:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> found it
36:35 <Ballig> it may not suck
36:42 <Ballig> once you start coming across things with spell resistance you start cursing it
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36:51 <Avatar> not limited to one school
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:50] <@Mekkis> Kaleb, how many games did you play with Fleet?
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:50] <+Kaleb> One
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <@Mekkis> I'd let you switch it out for finesse
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <@Mekkis> the spider tries to bite Kaleb 
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <@Mekkis> !throw 1d20+3 bite
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <%diebot> Mekkis, bite: [1d20=11] 14
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <+Cairo> can I switch out scorpion style for fleet
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <+Kaleb> Lol
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <@Mekkis> how long have you had that for?
37:37 <SpaceshotPC> [16:51] <+Kaleb> That was SO useless in that game
37:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> thanks brunius
38:06 <Ballig> yeah that wasn't PFS
38:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea it was
38:21 <Ballig> nope
38:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> want me to spam this channel some more?
38:27 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2, what's your point?
38:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> if he can do it, can others too?
38:44 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2, what's your point?
38:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> they* actually
38:55 <Ballig> he didn't do it
39:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> already said the point
39:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's not fair if everyone doesn't get a swap
39:53 <Ballig> that was another campaign using the same names
39:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> but only a few do
40:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig, I have the entire logs here
40:18 <Ballig> I'm aware
40:25 <Ballig> it still wasn't PFS
40:28 <Avatar> blindness/deafness, enervation, harm, inflict wounds, 
40:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> why do you believe I'm going to go to a VC or whoever and try to null cairo?
40:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't care to null cairo, I don't get anything out of it
40:54 <Ballig> I don't believe that, because yo ucan't, because it wasn't PFS
41:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> why are you so intent on continuing to say it wasn't PFS?
41:14 <Ballig> what I do believe, however, is that you want to leverage it to get changes on your PFS characters
41:17 <Ballig> but that won't work because it wasn't PFS
41:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> I could always reroll and go back down to no xp
41:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's not the biggest issue for me
44:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> leverage, fucking over 2 characters (not sure if brunius uses kaleb anymore), not doing anything and just wondering why mekkis gave the ruling
44:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> there are also more
44:43 <tristen> hmmm can someone help me with combat feats?
44:51 <tristen> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/ranger
45:04 <tristen> see that? how do i know how many i get?
45:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> you mean the combat style feats?
45:08 <tristen> i can't see anything
45:09 <tristen> yeah
45:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> what level did you hit?
46:06 <Ballig> third
46:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> you don't seem to get a combat style feat then
46:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> you get a normal feat
46:59 <tristen> sorry phone rang
47:06 <tristen> ok
47:09 <tristen> cool ta
47:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> np
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47:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig; what's the verdict?
48:03 <Ballig> on?
48:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> guess
49:00 <Ballig> are you asking if you can cheat?
49:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> not exactly
49:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> well, it could come down to that
49:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> first I want to know your stance on the whole shabang
49:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> and then find out from mekkis why he allowed feat swapping
50:14 <Ballig> he allowed it because it was a private pathfinder campaign
50:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> you're still not sounding convincing
50:48 <Mekkis> Spaceshot. I'm not speaking for the whole channel here, just from my own opinion
51:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's what I'm preferably wanting
51:02 <Mekkis> but I think that you're a liability to this channel.
51:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> I believe I've heard that before
51:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> but care to elaborate as to why?
51:27 <Mekkis> and would like to see a little more respect and acceptance, rather than arguing for the sake of argument.
51:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm not, and even if you believe I have been in the past, I also haven't intended to
51:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> that might of been the outcome
52:31 <Mekkis> given your past record of arguing about things, I don't really think it's worth my time to enter this current discussion.
52:51 <Mekkis> I'm more likely to see how well the ignore function of xchat works
52:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't want to be the bad guy
52:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> I really really don't
53:01 <Mekkis> well, that's what you've been sounding like.
54:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> I want to just know why you decided to allow them to change feats
54:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's about it
54:18 <Ballig> because it was a private campaign
54:20 <Ballig> and he's entitled to do that
55:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> again, I don't really see that
55:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> logs don't lie
55:04 <Mekkis> more to the point, you need to realise that although there are differences between online play and offline play, you're still interacting with the players, as people.
55:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> I do know this
55:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> people are people
55:59 <Ballig> if, hypothetically, we did look the other way while someone changed something on their character, it might be because they have proven themselves in the past to be mostly honourable and able to, without effort or forethought, follow the honour system
56:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> doesn't matter how the communication
56:11 <Ballig> and some other people, hypothetically, have probably proven they can't be trusted on the honour system
56:24 <Ballig> and therefore people may be less inclined to look the other way even if it's reasonable
56:44 <Mekkis> so bringing up something that, if this wasn't online, you'd never know about, and probably forget, isn't being particularly nice.
57:13 <Mekkis> But to answer your question, the reason I allowed him to change the feat was that he had never benefited from it...
57:32 <Ballig> Mekkis: hypothetically
57:36 <Ballig> if you did do that in a PFS game
57:37 <Ballig> which you didn't
57:54 <Mekkis> PFS or no PFS, that's a good reason to allow someone to change a feat
58:09 <Ballig> it's a reasonable justification
58:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> it is a good reason
58:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> I know that reason
58:24 <Ballig> one which I have used in the past, in private non-organised play campaigns
58:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> and have used it myself when DMing
58:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> I bet many people have used it
59:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> I bet kaleb did benefit from fleet though
59:28 <Mekkis> to my knowledge, he didn't
59:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> fleet is +5ft movement right?
59:57 <Mekkis> something like that
00:41 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure he didn't, I was in that game
01:25 <Ballig> maybe he did, maybe we should reverse it
01:31 <Ballig> thanks Spaceshot_tm2
01:33 <Ballig> good thing you sent him the logs Brunius
02:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's like you're trying to hide a body
02:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> or that you stole a few hundred
02:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> and don't want to get caught
02:35 <Ballig> what am I getting caught doing?
02:38 <Mekkis> no.
02:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> never said you were
02:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> I said it's like
02:51 <Mekkis> it's like you've started an argument and want to win it at all costs
02:58 <Ballig> it's like I think your attempt to leverage a change in your character is disgusting
03:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> not really
03:29 <Ballig> and if you had approached me and made a genuine plea for a change, and gave me good justification for it, I might have looked the other way
03:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> but I also don't require changing something that I put in, thinking it was useful, realising it was useless
03:41 <Ballig> but instead you latch on to what someone else did and insist you should be allowed to do it too
03:45 <Ballig> potentially an unlimited number of times
03:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> never insisted
03:52 <Ballig> because you believe someone else did, so you're entitled
04:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> I never did
04:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> I asked a question
04:22 <Ballig> the question was loaded
04:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> maybe to you
05:11 <Mekkis> "I think that Joe took sick leave to go to the beach with friends, so that's why I'm taking tomorrow off"
05:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> that is slightly different
05:42 <Ballig> "If Joe was allowed to take a sick day to go to the beach, why can't I?"
05:44 <Ballig> yeah, it's a question
05:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> mainly due to the wording
05:46 <Ballig> but it's loaded
05:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> and lack of questioning
07:14 <Avatar> looks like I've had low skill points for about 2 levels
07:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> on cairo?
07:34 <Avatar> yeah
07:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> forgot to add the FC?
07:43 <Avatar> forgot to spend the points
07:49 <Mekkis> Avatar, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/clericspells.csv
07:49 <Avatar> like, all of them
07:51 <Ballig> Str 14, Dex 16, Con 15, Int 2, Wis 12, Cha 6
07:54 <Ballig> I get to raise one of those by 1
07:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> saving up for a skill trick? owait...
07:56 <Ballig> what should I choose
07:56 <Avatar> cheers
07:56 <Mekkis> it's actually pipe separated
08:05 <Avatar> what character ballig
08:10 <Ballig> my cavalier's wolf
08:21 <Ballig> on the next level his str and dex both raise by 1
08:27 <Mekkis> Ballig, considered taking levels in ranger?
08:27 <Ballig> he has weapon finesse
08:32 <Avatar> dex
08:39 <Avatar> or possibly con
08:43 <Ballig> Mekkis: I'd prefer not to
08:45 <Avatar> i'm assuming weapon finesse counts for his bite
08:51 <Ballig> it counts for his bite
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08:55 <Ballig> also he has agile maneuvers
08:57 <Mekkis> why not, balls?
08:58 <Ballig> so dex also counts to his CMB
08:58 <Avatar> dex by all means
09:38 <Ballig> Mekkis: I feel dirty having too many classes
09:44 <Mekkis> fair enough
10:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> figured out your feat yet?
10:26 <Ballig> I took Furious Focus for my second feat
10:35 <Mekkis> not boon companion?
10:43 <Ballig> I took boon companion for my first feat
10:50 <Ballig> I get a feat for level 5 and a feat for level 2 fighter
13:50 <Ballig> next level my wolf's AC goes up by 3
14:26 <Avatar> holy shit, I forgot to add my 4th level ability too
14:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
14:50 <Avatar> it's got +1 somewhere (@4th) like I was meant to fill it in later
15:11 <Ballig> haha that's right, I remember seeing that
15:15 <Avatar> putting it in charisma is surprisingly not a bad idea
15:23 <Ballig> what's your charisma
15:26 <Avatar> at 8th I'll be able to selectively channel out someone else
15:28 <Avatar> 14
15:31 <Ballig> ahh
15:42 <Ballig> my wolf could take combat reflexes
15:45 <Ballig> so he'd get 3 AOOs a round
15:56 <Ballig> (4 next level)
15:58 <Avatar> isn't there an item that gives +1 to a stat
16:04 <Ballig> mm
16:06 <Ballig> maybe an ioun stone?
16:13 <Avatar> I'll look into that later
17:48 <Ballig> my wolf's feats are quite limited
17:51 <Ballig> maybe weapon focus (bite)
18:07 <Avatar> does he have improved trip
18:11 <Brunius> Haha
18:13 <Avatar> there are some nice trip feats
18:15 <Ballig> he has the trip special ability
18:24 <Avatar> does that act as having improved trip
18:26 <Ballig> and improved trip isn't on the list of feats an animal companion can take
18:31 <Ballig> he'd have to increase his int instead I think
18:32 <Avatar> oh, are they limited
18:42 <Ballig> he has to have 3 int or higher to use any other feats
18:48 <Avatar> put a point into his int
18:50 <Avatar> you can talk to him
18:55 <Ballig> for some reason I feel like improved trip requires combat expertise
18:57 <Ballig> which requires int 13
19:05 <Ballig> which is why it's not listed for animal companions who typically have 2 or 3 int
19:06 <Avatar> does it
19:23 <Ballig> yeah I looked into it
19:41 <Ballig> because I wanted to increase his trip bonus
20:56 <Ballig> it wasn't until this scenario that I realised I could use ride-by-attack to continue a further 5 ft after charging
21:06 <Ballig> to let my wolf attack in the same round
21:20 <Avatar> I was meant to have an extra hp too
21:21 <Brunius> Ballig: Have you reported last night's first steps yet?
21:25 <Avatar> what a disaster this sheet is
21:35 <Ballig> Brunius: I think I haven't because I needed someone's PFS#
21:36 <Ballig> or something
21:43 <Brunius> Ok
22:11 <Brunius> ioun stones that give +2 to stats are 8000 each
22:14 <Ballig> did you get a chronicle sheet for it
22:17 <Brunius> Nope
22:25 <Ballig> maybe you were who I was waiting on
22:33 <Brunius> 22870-5
22:48 <Ballig> Valeros, right?
22:51 <Ballig> do you have a faction?
22:54 <Ballig> how much gold did you start with?
23:08 <Brunius> Just leave those blank
23:24 <Brunius> You can apply the first steps pregenned to another character, right?
23:51 <Avatar> I think that's only if you DM it
23:55 <Ballig> hmmm
24:06 <Ballig> I think there is something to do with playing a pregen and getting the credit for a real character
24:13 <Avatar> look it up
24:24 <Avatar> mekkis should know for sure
24:36 <Brunius> Mekkis?
24:51 * Brunius pulls out his Guide to Org Play
25:15 <Avatar> it won't be in there
25:19 <Avatar> it's specific to first steps
25:23 <Avatar> you'd have to google it
26:04 <Ballig> it may not be
26:36 <Brunius> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=WnY&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen%3Aofficial&q=Pregen+play+apply+different+character+PFS&oq=Pregen+play+apply+different+character+PFS&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=2244l2675l0l2880l4l3l0l2l0l0l363l363l3-1l1l0
26:38 <Brunius> #4
26:40 <Brunius> Haha
27:10 <Ballig> what bit
27:28 <Brunius> It is in the guide
27:30 <Brunius> p4
27:38 <Brunius> Top of te second column
28:21 <Ballig> yeah there we go
28:25 <Ballig> I had a feeling you could do it with any scenario
28:31 <Avatar> check this out, I can prepare two 3rd level spells
28:36 <Avatar> so I could prepare blindness and remove blindness
28:42 <Avatar> new method of interrogation! woohoo!
28:44 <Ballig> or two blindnesses
29:12 <Avatar> you're missing the point
29:14 <Ballig> two blindnesses and a speak with dead
29:19 <Avatar> and ruining my fun !
29:22 <Ballig> haha
29:24 <Ballig> yeah
29:29 <Brunius> Ha
29:31 <Avatar> stone shape is damn sexy too
29:31 <Ballig> I just don't think it's worth using two third level sells on interrogation
29:39 <Ballig> even if it would, realistically, be a pretty damned good way to interrogate someone
29:45 <Avatar> I guess I can use scrolls now too
29:51 <Avatar> wait, can you use scrolls at any level?
29:51 <Ballig> yeah
29:57 <Avatar> how come wands get an exception
29:57 <Ballig> define "any level"
30:08 <Avatar> like a ranger can use cure light wounds before he can even cast spells
30:09 <Ballig> you have to make caster level checks to use a scroll or wand above your level
30:15 <Avatar> oh
30:23 <Avatar> I can cast water breathing
31:01 <Avatar> and animate dead @!
31:05 <Brunius> ha
31:08 <Brunius> You right there?
31:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> are you evil?
31:23 <Avatar> it's like this spell level makes up for the shittiness of the first 2 levels
31:57 <Avatar> contagion, infect subject with a chosen disease
32:02 <Avatar> I may need to change my alignment
32:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> sounds do able
32:17 <Avatar> absolute power is corrupting me
32:31 <Ballig> haha
32:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> get ballig or mekkis to DM, they'll allow it
33:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> lets you get versitile channler eventually XD
33:08 <Avatar> I'd have to look up the rules on changing alignment
33:13 <Ballig> what are you suggesting I've allowed, Spaceshot?
33:24 <Brunius> Fairly sure you lose all your progress towards your current level
33:31 <Avatar> really
33:33 <Ballig> he has no progress towards his current level
33:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm not suggesting you've ever allowed anything
33:42 <Ballig> then why are you suggesting I would allow it?
33:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> just saying, based on your hypothetical situation earlier
33:50 <Avatar> I think he means in terms of a roleplay reason
33:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> you would allow it for someone like avatar
34:00 <Avatar> but you'd still need to check the rules for that
34:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh that too
34:01 <Ballig> seems a little inflammatory Spaceshot
34:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> if avatar dicked around like a dick XD
34:12 <Avatar> man I wouldn't have to
34:14 <Avatar> look at these spells
34:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar: I don't think you can do it purposely if your character wouldn't do it
34:28 <Avatar> "You won't tell us what we need to know? No problem." 
34:33 <Avatar> I cast blindness on this man
34:42 <Avatar> "TELL ME WHAT I WANT TO KNOW OR YOU'LL NEVER SEE AGAIN!"
35:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> "WHAT???"
35:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> oops, deafness was cast :P
35:26 <Ballig> Bairaq?
35:30 <Ballig> is that the character, Brunius?
35:32 <Avatar> Cairo strokes his chin, "A day spent without the sight or sound of beauty, the contemplation of mystery, or the search of truth or perfection is a poverty-stricken day; and a succession of such days is fatal to human life."
35:33 <Brunius> Yep
35:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
35:48 <Avatar> what an awesome line, I'll have to put that in the database
36:04 <Avatar> that would scare the bajeezus out of me
36:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm
36:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> and ballig, chill out man
36:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> you need to learn to not take so much to heart
37:01 <Ballig> you  need to learn to stop being inflammatory
37:04 <Avatar> jesus it's 34 degrees today
37:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's 39ish here avatar
37:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> take your heat wave back
37:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I DON'T WANT IT
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig; I try not to, doesn't mean my actions don't seem that way to others
38:23 <Ballig> Brunius: it's reported
39:42 <Ballig> Brunius: I'll write your faction in German so it's hidden
39:47 <Avatar> the thing about stone shape is I can't recall a situation to date where it would've been useful
39:50 <Avatar> haha
40:03 <Ballig> Avatar: you used it in SoTo
40:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
40:06 <Ballig> but there was a lot more exploration
40:10 <Avatar> I can't remember what we did with it
40:13 <Ballig> and you couldn't figure out the puzzle so you brute forced through
40:13 <Avatar> escaped out of a cage?
40:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig; 3rd Riech?
40:30 <Ballig> you couldn't figure out how the puzzle worked to open the secret doors in the catacombs, so you stone shaped through them
40:44 <Avatar> I tried the same thing in ERNG and I got screwed
40:49 <Ballig> stone shape is the kind fo thing that having a scroll would be useful for
40:53 <Avatar> yeah
40:55 <Avatar> maybe a wand
40:58 <Avatar> but it's 3rd level
41:03 <Ballig> that would be incredibly expensive
41:09 <Ballig> you wouldn't use it anywhere near that often
41:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> I like the oracle ability
41:18 <Avatar> I'm just putting down some default spells on my character sheet
41:29 <Avatar> blindness/deafness is already there, but I can take it twice if need be
41:29 <Ballig> don't prepare stone shape by default
41:37 <Avatar> yeah what else though
41:41 <Avatar> there's so many good ones!
41:51 <Avatar> dispel magic maybe
41:58 <Ballig> are you getting that rod
41:59 <Avatar> or bestow curse!
42:05 <Avatar> I don't want to honestly
42:16 <Avatar> maybe later when I have more cash
42:22 <Ballig> searing light?
42:24 <Avatar> but not when that much cash will buy me quite a lot at the moment
42:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can't spontanous your domain spell right?
42:42 <Avatar> nope
42:43 <Ballig> eh only 2d8 damage
42:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> get a handy haversack
42:47 <Avatar> see that seems pretty good but
42:50 <Avatar> you guys are doing the damage
42:55 <Avatar> a spell like bestow curse would rock there
43:06 <Avatar> -6 to an ability, -4 on attacks, or 50% miss chance
43:15 <Avatar> like what school is THAT spell?
43:21 <Ballig> yeah
43:28 <Avatar> maybe that's worth spell focus necromancy
43:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> isn't that evil?
43:32 <Ballig> another necromancy spell
43:37 <Ballig> it doesn't have the evil descriptor
43:38 <Avatar> will negates
43:40 <Avatar> duration permanent?
43:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> really?
43:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> nice
43:47 <Ballig> yeah, blindness is permanent too
43:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> I know animate dead has the evil descriptor
44:01 <Avatar> alright I might go with spell focus necromancy unless I find something better before next game
44:06 <Ballig> your problem is it's touch /and/ there's a save
44:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> remove curse and remove blindness/deafness will remove it
44:17 <Avatar> yeah but I'm still a tank, so it's okay
44:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> so will restoration, maybe lesser but doubt it
44:19 <Avatar> and I have fleet
44:23 <Ballig> but will you touch
44:46 <Avatar> the chances are better
44:56 <Avatar> just as good with that ray spell you considered
45:02 <Ballig> it's better than the ray spell
45:20 <Ballig> you could take Weapon Focus (touch spell)
45:31 <Avatar> er, is my point buy wrong
45:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> weapon focus touch spell, and use rod of reach
45:45 <Avatar> no
46:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> would work better if you had inflict
46:16 <Avatar> I can use inflict
46:19 <Avatar> that's also necromancy
47:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> can't* you mean
47:41 <Avatar> can
47:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's got the evil descriptor
47:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> you skim too much
47:50 <Avatar> I can't spontaneously cast it
47:53 <Avatar> YOU skim too much
48:06 <Avatar> I have well over 5000gp now
48:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> they removed the evil descriptor from inflict?
48:28 <Avatar> I can still cast spells with the evil descriptor
48:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope
48:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> you're good
48:41 <Avatar> where's it say that
48:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> under spell casting
49:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> I think only divine spell casting though
49:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> that or cleric spell casting
49:22 <Avatar> give me a page/heading
49:33 <Avatar> or a copy/paste
49:39 <Avatar> back in a bit
49:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> checking my IRL book atm
52:07 <Ballig> Mekkis: shit, my wolf just lost hp :(
53:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> page 39
53:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> at the bottom on the left side
53:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> just at the start of spells
53:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> sorry, that goes to page 41
54:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> skimmer XD
55:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> hmm... inflict isn't evil any more (if it was)
55:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm, never did
56:11 <Ballig> I'm sure Avatar will accept your apology
56:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> I bet he will
57:47 <Avatar> yeah I accept your apology
57:52 <Avatar> you just never get to call me a skimmer
57:54 <Avatar> ever again
57:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> hahaha
57:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope
58:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
58:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> you do skim, not always missing the vital information, but you do skim
58:16 <Avatar> okay, skimmer
58:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> like how you skimmed the shadowrun book XD
58:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> when do I play clerics?
58:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> oracle or druid please
58:33 <Avatar> probably all the time
58:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
58:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> nah, I've never played a cleric besides fredrick in EM
58:54 <Ballig> !throw 2#1d4+1
58:54 <diebot> Ballig, 2#1d4+1: [1d4=2] 3, [1d4=1] 2
04:08 <Avatar> I can't believe I didn't nap and I'm about to go out
04:13 <Avatar> to stay awake for 6+ hours
05:47 <Ballig> haha
05:58 <Avatar> in 34 degree heat
08:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> this avatar, gonna miss out on midnight gaming :P
09:11 <Ballig> it's 26 here
09:50 <Avatar> it's supposed to get down to 17 tonight
09:56 <Avatar> can't win
12:43 <Brunius> Could you resend Ballig?
13:25 <Ballig> sure can
13:52 <Brunius> Cheers
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26:45 <Brunius> Oh yeah.
26:50 <Brunius> It is hot today.
26:51 <Brunius> I hadn't noticed
29:08 <Brunius> !feat Iron Will
29:08 <diebot> Brunius, Once per day, you may reroll a Will save 
30:50 <Ballig> that's improved iron will
30:54 <Ballig> iron will is +2 will save
32:41 <Brunius> !feat Improved Iron Will
32:42 <diebot> Brunius, Once per day, you may reroll a Will save 
33:44 <Brunius> Well this means war!
33:47 <Ballig> WAR!
33:53 <Ballig> !feat will
33:54 <diebot> Ballig, Once per day, you may reroll a Will save 
33:59 <Ballig> !feat iron
33:59 <diebot> Ballig, Once per day, you may reroll a Will save 
34:02 <Brunius> Ha
34:03 <Ballig> !feat ironwill
34:04 <Brunius> !Feat shot
34:08 <Brunius> !feat shot
34:08 <diebot> Brunius, Decrease ranged penalties by half
34:12 <Ballig> !feat +2
34:18 <Ballig> !feat decreased
34:20 <Ballig> !feat decrease
34:26 <Ballig> !feat a
34:26 <diebot> Ballig, Summary
34:27 <Brunius> !feat sele
34:27 <diebot> Brunius, Choose whom to affect with channel energy
34:36 <Ballig> !feat b
34:37 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a bonus to damage when fighting slaveowners.
34:37 <Brunius> !feat *
34:41 <Ballig> !feat ?
34:44 <Ballig> !feat .
34:44 <Brunius> ha
34:47 <Ballig> !feat ;
34:48 <Brunius> This is ridiculous
34:52 <Ballig> !feat 1
34:56 <Ballig> !feat c
34:56 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a bonus to damage when fighting slaveowners.
35:00 <Brunius> !feat d
35:00 <diebot> Brunius, Gain a bonus on Will saves and a bonus to attack and damage a number of gnoll-like creatures.
35:13 <Brunius> !feat lea
35:14 <diebot> Brunius, Make an additional attack if the first one hits
35:16 <Brunius> !feat lead
35:17 <diebot> Brunius, Gain a cohort and followers
35:33 <Ballig> !feat ship
35:34 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a cohort and followers
35:41 <Ballig> !feat ers
35:41 <diebot> Ballig, Use your Dex bonus when calculating your CMB
35:58 <Ballig> Brunius: see how many 3+ letter combinations you can use to get the same feat
36:03 <Brunius> Ha
36:05 <Ballig> !feat lead
36:05 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a cohort and followers
36:06 <Ballig> !feat ship
36:07 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a cohort and followers
36:10 <Brunius> A new game!
36:12 <Ballig> !feat ersh
36:12 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a cohort and followers
36:21 <Ballig> maybe it should be exactly 4 letters
36:32 <Ballig> !feat eade
36:32 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a cohort and followers
36:37 <Ballig> !feat ader
36:38 <diebot> Ballig, Gain a cohort and followers
36:39 <Brunius> !feat shi
36:39 <diebot> Brunius, Shield bonus to AC when wielding a spiked chain.
38:35 <Mekkis> Brunius, try doing it in PM
38:45 <Ballig> but then I don't see
39:11 <Brunius> Why am I doing it in PM?
41:12 <Mekkis> what are good cleric spells
41:21 <Ballig> blindness/deafness
41:29 <Ballig> bestow curse
42:42 <Ballig> are we talking <=3 or <=4
43:46 <Mekkis> <=3
44:01 <Ballig> do you want to deal damage specifically, or just usefulness in combat
44:14 <Mekkis> usefulness
44:56 <Mekkis> yay
45:01 <Mekkis> I get 11 cantrips !
45:51 <Ballig> how do you increase cantrips
47:32 <Mekkis> probably 1st level spells, that require reflex or fort saves
47:54 <Ballig> a lantern archon could have helped today!
48:02 <Ballig> (a lantern archon from summon monster 3)
48:05 <Mekkis> yes
48:06 <Ballig> it can cast continual flame at will :O
48:34 <Mekkis> This spell transforms water into an alcoholic beverage, typically ale, beer, mead, or wine. The alcohol is of middling quality but drinkable. The spell also serves to remove poisons, disease, minerals, and other toxins from the water as it transforms. The more contaminants exist in the water, the darker the ale and the more full-bodied the wine. The alcohol content does not change.
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49:22 <Ballig> ha
55:41 <Mekkis> Ballig, for /The Harrowing/ am I allowed to take the Magical Knack trait?
56:05 <Ballig> is it PFS legal
56:08 <Mekkis> no
56:12 <Ballig> then no
56:25 <Mekkis> I'm a member of the front for legalisation of Magical Knack
56:32 <Ballig> I found out that I calculated my mount's HP wrong
56:37 <Mekkis> yeah
56:42 <Mekkis> average at each level, right?
57:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> magical knack the one that gives a cantrip?
57:00 <Ballig> I think I gave it full at first, and then used the PFS rules for characters at other levels
57:07 <Mekkis> no
57:07 <Ballig> but it's meant to be 4.5*HD+con
57:12 <Mekkis> it's half of Practiced Spellcaster
57:29 <Ballig> +2 caster level up not exceeding HD?
57:35 <Mekkis> yeah
57:42 <Ballig> yeah
01:06 <Ballig> can almost afford a haversack
01:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> how much are they?
01:47 <Ballig> 2000
01:51 <Ballig> I have 1950
02:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> ouch
11:41 <Ballig> I could sell some stuff to get up to it, but it's not worth spending my entire savings on right now
25:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm, you do have lots of str don't you
26:55 <Mekkis> Ballig, what do you think?
26:57 <Mekkis> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=332
27:06 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: nope
27:25 <Mekkis> 11 cantrips !
27:28 <Ballig> a lot better than your normal sheets
27:59 <Mekkis> looking at playing him in The Harrowing
28:08 <Mekkis> chances are he's pretty crap
28:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> how do you cast your sorc spells?
28:27 <Ballig> can he cast any of his sorcerer spells
29:03 <Mekkis> yeah
29:21 <Mekkis> he has the Empyreal bloodline
29:34 <Ballig> does that let him use wisdom instead of charisma
29:41 <Mekkis> Bloodline Arcana: Unlike most sorcerers whose innate magic is powered by force of personality, you use pure willpower to master and fuel your magic. You use your Wisdom, rather than your Charisma, to determine all class features and effects relating to your sorcerer class, such as bonus spells per day, maximum spell level you can cast, and the save DCs of your spells. You gain a +2 bonus on all Heal and Knowledge (religion) checks.
29:43 <Mekkis> yeah
29:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> where's it from?
30:06 <Mekkis> UM
30:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> nice
30:18 <Brunius> That is pretty cool
30:32 <Brunius> You could make a gunslinger/sorceror !
36:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> when are you thinking of playing The Harrowing ballig?
36:25 <Ballig> when the four people's characters are ready
36:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> not invited I guess :(
36:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
45:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> any PFS way to make the number of rages based on CHA not CON?
51:59 <Thelen> you sad pathetic losers, hanging out in IRC instead of having new years party?!?!
52:13 <Thelen> oh wait
52:18 <Thelen> *us* pathetic loser...
52:18 <Thelen> XD
52:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
58:30 <Brunius> Who gives a shit about new years
58:34 <Thelen> exactly
58:40 <Brunius> Ballig: Any chance I could play in Harrowing?
58:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> mayans
59:27 <Ballig> Brunius: it's a module so it's worth a whole bunch of PFS games
59:33 <Brunius> Sweet
59:35 <Ballig> are you going to be able to play often enough that it won't slow the progress of the module
59:38 <Thelen> lol mayans
59:57 <Brunius> If there's a regular timeslot, I'd be able to
00:12 <Brunius> But if it's something like "Whenever people are here, maybe" then I wouldn't
00:16 <Ballig> uhm, maybe Sunday mornings? alternating with CoTE?
00:57 <Brunius> What happened to CoTE anyway
01:03 <Ballig> it's on hold until canine gets back
01:09 <Ballig> January 8th
01:32 <Ballig> you can play in that too if you want, if you can commit to every sunday morning
01:32 <Ballig> :p
01:39 <Ballig> (they've only played one session)
01:57 <Brunius> Ha
02:14 <Brunius> I wouldn't be able to commit to Sunday mornings, so I'm out
03:37 <Ballig> ahh
05:26 <MekkisScreen> the good thing about sanctioned mods is that there's a penalty for missing a session
05:40 <Ballig> yeah
05:42 <Brunius> Which is?
05:49 <Ballig> you get less reward
05:56 <Brunius> Oh noes!
06:01 <MekkisScreen> 1 less xp and pa
06:06 <Ballig> you can't really reduce the award from a scenario because it's already pretty low
06:09 <MekkisScreen> per session missed
06:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
06:17 <Ballig> but a sanctioned module has more
06:18 <Ballig> so you can
06:22 <MekkisScreen> so 
06:29 <MekkisScreen> I speak, Spaceshot_tm2 
06:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> true
06:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> it has been established
17:36 <Mekkis> Ballig, any glaring omissions?
17:42 <Mekkis> I need two feats and a trait
18:53 <Ballig> difficult for me to audit without poring over a half dozen books :p
19:06 <Ballig> the only thing that jumped out at me was the question of where the extra attack bonus came from for your ranged touch
19:38 <Mekkis> that's a very good question
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35:45 <Brunius> Rod of Reach?
40:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> it is a good rod
44:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> one of the best I think
48:08 <Mekkis> should get rod of bouncing too
49:03 <Mekkis> Ballig, I'd prefer an evening slot
08:46 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 31st We Be Goblins | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || AEDT (UTC+11:00) | D&D and Pathfinder Online http://dnd.ballig.net/
08:46 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Sat Dec 31 13:43:29 2011
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10:22 <Mekkis> the [comment]12345[/comment] is required
10:33 <Brunius> Why is that?
11:33 <Mekkis> because of the way the generator works
12:18 <Ballig> possibly for automating purposes
16:33 <Brunius> pp>gp>sp>cp, right?
16:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> should be
16:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> unless you're in the copper age
25:34 <tristen> la-la-la-lah-la-laaah
26:03 <tristen> i've had my dinner and i've had my booze
26:10 <Spaceshot_tm2>  GET MORE BOOZE
26:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> clearly you're typing too coherient
26:24 <tristen> yesh
27:19 <Brunius> Needs more skullz
28:29 <tristen> hey is there any more gaming planned this weekend?
29:12 <Ballig> I'm sure we could do something tomorrow if people are here
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29:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'll be around
29:55 <Brunius> I'll be around...till about 11am
30:05 <Brunius> Then I'm off for the airport
30:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> where to this time?
30:52 <Ballig> he's stalking me
30:56 <Brunius> Can-berra
33:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> stalker
34:03 <Brunius> I'm assuming the +1 mithral shirt on the perils of the pirate pact chronicle sheet is supposed to be a chain shirt?
35:08 <Ballig> it's a mithral chain shirt
35:17 <Brunius> schweet
35:34 <Ballig> I was torn between sending samsuhn in that direction
35:59 <Ballig> give him armour proficiency light this level and arcane armour training the next time he gets a feat, so he can wear a mithral chain shirt with 0% arcane spell failure
36:13 <Ballig> or else go point blank shot now and then precise shot later so he has a better chance to hit with spells that require touch
36:52 <tristen> yeah i'll lob in mid-morning see what's going on
36:59 <tristen> 10-ish
38:09 <Ballig> sounds good
16:52 <Avatar-> :o)
19:58 <Brunius> :(
20:30 <Ballig> haven't fallen asleep yet?
21:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> also brunius, I think your friends either don't check facebook messages, or are slow :P
21:33 <Brunius> Just this guy
21:41 <Brunius> He's usually on all the time
21:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
21:47 <Brunius> It's probably because he's moving house
21:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> wouldn't help
22:32 <Brunius> I could text him, I guess.
22:43 <Mekkis> Ballig, do you have a static qt build environment for windows handy?
23:10 <Ballig> yeah, what files would you need
23:40 <Mekkis> Avatar's been chasing my pfdb thing
30:58 <Avatar-> chasing your what
31:25 <Brunius> pathfinder database?
32:28 <Ballig> his database of pathfinder information
33:59 <Mekkis> ummm
34:12 <Mekkis> have you managed to use static webkit?
35:05 <Ballig> pretty sure I haven't tried
38:36 <Avatar-> yeah I guess
39:42 <Avatar-> I didn't have much luck with that csv you sent me earlier but I didn't try too hard to fix it
39:48 <Avatar-> excel being dumb
47:13 <Mekkis> Ballig, could you compile http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/pfdb2.tar.bz2
47:20 <Mekkis> for static windows
47:36 <Ballig> is it restricted to ipv6
47:40 <Mekkis> no
47:46 <Mekkis> it's dual stack
47:47 <Ballig> object not found
47:59 <Mekkis> oops
48:04 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/pfdb.tar.bz2
48:19 <Mekkis> if you want ipv4-only, go to http://ipv4.nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/pfdb.tar.bz2
48:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar; have fun partying?
54:12 <Ballig> Mekkis: I mustn't have webkit compiled for static linking, it won't run without the dll
54:41 <Mekkis> fair enough
01:53 <Brunius> Well
02:08 <Brunius> I have to board a plane in 13 hours, so I guess I should start packing
02:14 <Ballig> ha
09:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> how long you staying?
10:24 <Mekkis> great
10:34 <Mekkis> Static linking of WebKit is not going to be supported anymore in Qt 4.7,
10:34 <Mekkis> so this commit makes sure it's mentioned in the documentation and that
10:34 <Mekkis> configure disables WebKit if static linking of Qt is requested.
11:01 <Avatar-> happy new year gentlemen
11:09 <Mekkis> it's no new year !
11:10 <Avatar-> and lady
11:12 <Mekkis> tosser
11:13 <Mekkis> :)
11:26 <Avatar-> wut
11:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> somone is ahead of the time frame
11:31 <Mekkis> DST
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