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00:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
00:07 <Ballig> however, the answer to your question is: yes
00:07 <Avatar> if you were looking at it, you could see how I made the error
00:09 <Ballig> so that's through a tunnel now?
00:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> probs from a campaign with full hp
00:13 <Mekkis> is that a sufficient delay?
00:15 <Mekkis> yep
00:19 <Avatar> it's PFS
00:26 <Ballig> cool
00:26 <Avatar> for a new class
00:28 <Ballig> yeah it's good
00:29 <Ballig> thanks
00:30 <Mekkis> foo@nl:~/bones> 6tunnel -4 -l 109.235.52.28 4000 121.45.210.186 4000 -d -v
00:33 <Ballig> full hp campaigns are a mistake
00:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how is a new class the error?
00:49 <Mekkis> (6tunnel works fine for IPv4)
00:53 <Avatar> the error is you assuming it's probably from another campaign with full hp
00:57 <Ballig> he's just saying he wouldn't have altered the character from another campaign
01:08 <Avatar> all the gunslinger talk seems to focus on pistolero
01:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmm
01:13 <Avatar> I'm a musket master
01:16 <Mekkis> yeah
01:22 <Avatar> which appears to me as a superior option
01:26 <Mekkis> the pistol can be really broken
01:30 <Mekkis> double pistol or something
01:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and full hp campaigns aren't a mistake, they're just the campaigns where you're expected to be able to best a bullette at party average 4
01:47 <Avatar> how
01:57 <Mekkis> not sure
02:01 <Avatar> maybe it's easier to get the reloading down
02:07 <Avatar> since it's already one step closer than musket
02:08 <Avatar> they are a mistake
02:12 <Mekkis> someone did the math and arrived at 600 damage per round or something stupid like that
02:15 <Avatar> QQ proved that
02:21 <Ballig> well if you can get musket to move
02:23 <Ballig> you can get pistol to free
02:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because that's just straight 100% combat
02:32 <Avatar> I think it actually breaks the system a bit because it throws off combat
02:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's not a campaign
02:34 <Mekkis> maybe I should play a overly chaotic gnome?
02:44 <Avatar> what do you think hp relates to
02:52 <Avatar> is one below move, free or swift?
02:53 <Mekkis> (I've got one in a non-PFS game)
02:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well technically, you could put in rolled hp, and someone could roll max each time
03:02 <Mekkis> with rapid reload, free
03:09 <Avatar> yeah but that's rolling
03:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> doesn't musket master make reloading move action? and rapid make it free?
03:13 <Avatar> but I mean
03:16 <Avatar> does swift come into play
03:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not really
03:22 <Avatar> to assume everyone rolled maximum every time is quite different
03:23 <Mekkis> I don't htink so
03:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not for single handed or musket master
03:33 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2_: it gives rapid reload for free, which makes it standard instead of full round
03:35 <Ballig> free is better than swift isn't it
03:38 <Ballig> swift is only one per round
03:40 <Ballig> free there is no limit on
03:42 <Avatar> yeah free is better
03:48 <Mekkis> spending a lot of time diminutive is nice :)
04:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you should see the duel pistols
04:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it takes 6 free actions per duel shot
04:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> XD
04:35 <Avatar> 600 damage, that can't be right
04:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> where are you getting 600 damage from?
04:51 <Mekkis> (and yes, it is PFS legal to play a character who spends all his time diminutive)
04:52 <Avatar> maybe if you crit every shot
04:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> true, but it can happen
05:00 <Avatar> and get maximum damage
05:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> doesn't mean it throws the game out of wack
05:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sure it'd mean you could add a monster or 2 to the fight
05:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but won't break the system
05:21 <Avatar> at level 20
05:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heh
05:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> when you build a level 20 character around not dying when his ownly perpose is combat
05:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd prefer duel shot
05:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that will break the system
05:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> actually, I'd prefer arcane sniper, but that isn't PFS legal
06:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I wouldn't mind a QQ with pathfinder only material
06:12 <Avatar> it broke it in LSK too
06:17 <Avatar> which was level 4-5
06:19 <Avatar> the problem with pistols is their range
06:24 <Avatar> 20ft range increment
06:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> was LSK a premade?
06:32 <Avatar> yeah
06:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so?
06:33 <Avatar> that's what drove me away
06:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> gunslinger is a tank
06:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> did LSK insist on full hp?
06:39 <Avatar> but I houseruled max hp
06:44 <Avatar> hardly
06:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea that's the issue avatar
06:48 <Avatar> a tank when compared to wizards
06:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> they get heavy armour correct?
06:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the game doesn't break on full hp characters
07:01 <Avatar> no
07:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but something that isn't built for full hp can struggle
07:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> really? thought they did
07:21 <Avatar> proficient with light armour only
07:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> is LSK the one you never finished?
07:33 <Avatar> generally have a high dex
07:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but still intend to?
08:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> think of them as a rogue
08:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> for combat perposes
09:26 <Ballig> Avatar: how do you turn shuffle songs on
09:27 <Mekkis> what? not working under the current rules to the general expectation?
09:49 <Avatar> it did finish
10:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ahh
10:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> was it good
12:54 <Mekkis> (the most effective rogue has about 12 dex, wears full plate, has a level of fighter, and doesn't bother hiding)
13:14 <Ballig> effective at what
13:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you mean combat efficiency
13:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that is all mekkis really cares about, usually
13:30 <Mekkis> effective at doing what rogues are good at
13:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> unless he exploits a skill
13:33 <Ballig> I'm assuming this is a flanking sneak attack rogue with high strength
13:41 <Mekkis> pretty much
13:52 <Mekkis> because stealth flat out doesn't work
15:14 <Avatar> Ballig: next to the progress bar, one of the buttons between that and the radio thing
15:17 <Avatar> first one
15:25 <Avatar> stealth doesn't flat out not work
15:27 <Ballig> yeah when I click it it doesn't do anything
16:12 <Avatar> not sure how it works
16:14 <Avatar> that's obviously it
16:21 <Ballig> do you use it
16:25 <Avatar> nop
17:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> stealth works when combat isn't inherintly(spelling???) going to happen and there is no way to avoid it
17:44 <Ballig> well, you can't really stealth past an encounter
17:51 <Ballig> because you have to have every person in the party make successful stealth checks
17:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you sure can
17:54 <Ballig> and that's almost impossible
18:04 <Ballig> we've tried it
18:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> stealth is just 1 half of the ability
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18:12 <Avatar> what's the other half
18:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you need distractions to make stealth shine
18:23 <Ballig> that's not always a possibility
18:30 <Ballig> in fact, it rarely is
18:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> love flying familiars
18:34 <Avatar> what kind of distractions would you use in open areas
18:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ravens are a really good distraction
18:48 <Avatar> I'm going by the 90% chance of being able to use a mount 
19:04 <Avatar> how
19:17 <Avatar> (I don't know anything about ravens)
19:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> tell the familiar to fly past them saying something
19:37 <Ballig> well
19:40 <Avatar> er
19:40 <Ballig> for one, that puts them on alert
19:42 <Avatar> what if they're like
19:44 <Avatar> undead
19:45 <Ballig> for two, they could kill it and you lose experience
19:47 <Avatar> or animals
19:55 <Avatar> yeah what's the penalty for a dead familiar in PFS
20:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's not that easy to kill a raven familiar in flight
20:05 <Ballig> I mean if I see a talking raven I'd think "shit, wizard in the area, let's find him"
20:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> summoners can also do a really good part in distracting
20:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> summon a 1min monster, make it be a destraction, and then sneak past
20:44 <Ballig> need to keep in mind that magic isn't so rare that no one kn ows what a familiar is
20:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no I know
20:57 <Avatar> I don't know if any of this affects stealth much
20:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> raven is just an example
21:03 <Avatar> aren't you looking at a +2 circumstance bonus
21:06 <Ballig> and yeah, distractions aren't really stealth
21:13 <Ballig> if you draw them off with a 1 minute summon monster, that's not stealthing
21:16 <Ballig> that's just a tactic
21:21 <Ballig> it's not necessarily a bad tactic, but it's not stealth
21:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> stealth by itself can be useless
21:37 <Mekkis> distractions don't really create stealth
21:50 <Avatar> would you give a bonus for it
21:52 <Mekkis> you NEED cover or concealment to get stealth
22:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not really
22:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> at least logically
22:07 <Avatar> you almost always start out with cover or concealment though mekkis
22:08 <Mekkis> without that, it doesn't matter if you have +100, 
22:14 <Mekkis> it doesn't work
22:17 <Mekkis> Avatar, you do?
22:24 <Avatar> all you need is a corner
22:26 <Ballig> isn't there a part of the stealth skill that lets you cause a distraction
22:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so if you are walking behind them, with a roll of 100 of stealth
22:29 <Ballig> or maybe it's bluff
22:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> they will always find you?
22:35 <Avatar> and we have to assume you have a chance to use stealth at all in this context
22:37 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, yep
22:38 <Ballig> there's no facing in pathfinder or D&D
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22:46 <Mekkis> because there's no such thing as facing
22:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mekkis, that is just being retarded
22:58 <Mekkis> yes
23:05 <Mekkis> the stealth rules are retarded
23:10 <Mekkis> that's what I've been saying
23:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no, that there is no facing is retarded
23:16 <Mekkis> they don't work as you'd expect them to
23:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> stealth or no stealth
23:24 <Avatar> he's saying pathfinder is retarded mekkis
23:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> basically
23:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I understand that if you know there are swords strikes all around you, you'd be dancing around trying to keep look on everything
24:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but if you're just camping in the woods
24:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> or walking down a path
24:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you won't be looking all around you every fucking moment
24:31 <Ballig> Mekkis: you can hide without cover
24:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> just because something is RAW doesn't mean that's how it has to be played out
24:39 <Ballig> you use the "create a diversion to hide" Part of the skill
24:42 <Mekkis> what you gain through having facing is not, in the opinions of the creators, worth the busywork of adding it into the rules
24:45 <Mekkis> Ballig, yes
24:56 <Ballig> so you use bluff to distract them and then make a stealth check while they're unaware of you
24:59 <Mekkis> and then you need to make cover
25:06 <Ballig> it doesn't say that
25:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so basically, if you were ethereal, but still visable
25:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and you walked behind someone, they'd just turn around and find you
25:55 <Mekkis> "If your observers are momentarily distracted (such as by a Bluff check), you can attempt to use Stealth. While the others turn their attention from you, you can attempt a Stealth check if you can get to an unobserved place of some kind. This check, however, is made at a –10 penalty because you have to move fast."
26:33 <Avatar> what's that from
26:34 <Ballig> right, that's abstracted by the bluff and stealth check sthough
26:36 <Avatar> not in the stealth skill
26:39 <Ballig> it doesn't say you have to actually move to the unobserved spot
26:45 <Ballig> if you could do that without the checks you wouldn't need the distraction
26:46 <Ballig> you'd just do it
26:54 <Ballig> the bluff and stealth checks in that situation are an abstraction of actually finding the cover
27:06 <Ballig> if you fail the bluff check then they aren't distracted, if you fail the stealth check then you didn't find an unobserved spot
27:09 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, Ethereal creatures are invisible.
27:17 <Ballig> you don't actually have to find it yourself, the skill checks do that for you
27:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> beguiler isn't invisible
27:38 <Mekkis> Ballig, that's one interpretation.
27:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig; wow...
27:46 <Mekkis> I don't buy it
27:48 <Ballig> no other interpretation makes sense
27:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> none do
27:57 <Mekkis> " if you can get to an unobserved place of some kind"
28:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because people use RAW over logic
28:02 <Ballig> if you could find cover (ie. moving to an unobserved position) you wouldn't need to make the bluff check
28:12 <Ballig> right, that's just flavour text on what the skill check is determining
28:15 <Avatar> the rules about it seem pretty clear - you can use either cover or concealment to use stealth, or you can use a bluff check 
28:18 <Ballig> it's not telling you that you have to do that IC in order to use the check
28:23 <Avatar> there's nothing else about anything else
28:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I still think that is a stupid rule
28:53 <Avatar> why is that a stupid rule
28:59 <Ballig> basically what you're saying is you use cover or concealment, or you roll a bluff and still need cover or concealment anyway
29:02 <Ballig> which doesn't make sense
29:10 <Ballig> the bluff is clearly there in lieu
29:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because you technically don't have either cover or concealment sneaking behind someones back
29:28 <Mekkis> you can roll a bluff to allow you to stealth as you move towards cover/concealment
29:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> even if you make no sound
29:41 <Avatar> you're talking about a diversion
29:44 <Avatar> to have them face away
29:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and aren't within any edge of their vision
29:51 <Ballig> then why can't you just keep making bluffs forever
29:55 <Ballig> if it gives you momentary invisibility
30:08 <Avatar> you could I guess
30:11 <Ballig> the negative on the stealth check makes no sense in that situation either
30:16 <Avatar> how often do you have to make perception checks
30:16 <Ballig> if you are still having to find your own cover IC
30:35 <Avatar> per round is it
30:43 <Ballig> Avatar: the bluff takes a round
30:54 <Mekkis> I see it as creating a diversion then ducking off as they are distracted
30:58 <Avatar> so how long does stealth/perception last
31:09 <Ballig> which is true, except all of that is abstracted by the stealth check
31:16 <Ballig> you don't actually have to find the cover IC
31:19 <Ballig> the stealth check does that for you
31:25 <Ballig> otherwise you would just duck for the cover anyway
31:25 <Mekkis> I want to see a citation on that
31:37 <Avatar> it's in the rulebook man
31:45 <Mekkis> Ballig's reasoning isn't
31:47 <Avatar> You can use Bluff to allow you 
31:47 <Avatar> to use Stealth. A successful Bluff check can give you the 
31:47 <Avatar> momentary diversion you need to attempt a Stealth check 
31:47 <Avatar> while people are aware of you
32:01 <Avatar> what part of that isn't clear
32:08 <Avatar> or says you still need cover/conecalment
32:13 <Ballig> interpretations tend not to have citations
32:20 <Ballig> unless it's an interpretation from the dev
32:31 <Mekkis> regardless, you might interpret it that way
32:41 <Avatar> but this is RAW
32:43 <Mekkis> but you can't rely on every DM interpreting it that way
32:47 <Ballig> it's RAI
32:54 <Avatar> where is the confusion
32:57 <Ballig> the RAW is too ambiguous
33:05 <Ballig> on how you interpret the distraction
33:17 <Ballig> whether you still need to find the cover IC or if it's just giving you flavour on what the stealth check is doing
33:21 <Mekkis> which means that if you've got a character who relies on stealth, in some circumstances, you'll be unable to use it
33:33 <Avatar> are you assuming the distraction may not be good enough?
33:36 <Mekkis> no
33:37 <Ballig> no
33:39 <Ballig> the rule says this:
33:54 <Ballig> If  people  are  observing  you  using  any  of  their  senses 
33:54 <Ballig> (but typically sight), you can’t use Stealth. Against most 
33:55 <Ballig> creatures,  f inding  cover  or  concealment  allows  you  to 
33:55 <Ballig> use Stealth. If your observers are momentarily distracted 
33:55 <Ballig> (such as by a Bluff check), you can attempt to use Stealth. 
33:55 <Ballig> While the others turn their attention from you, you can 
33:55 <Ballig> attempt a Stealth check if you can get to an unobserved 
33:55 <Ballig> place of some kind. This check, however, is made at a –10 
33:55 <Ballig> penalty because you have to move fast.
33:58 <Mekkis> I'm assuming that not every DM that will be DMing a stealth-based character will be Ballig
34:04 <Mekkis> hell, one of them might be Matt
34:18 <Mekkis> and I KNOW that he doesn't interpret stealth that way
34:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> http://paizo.com/paizo/blog/v5748dyo5lckz
34:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I prefer those stealth rules, it makes at least some more sense
36:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's a bit vague, but it means (at least to my understanding) you can do a stealth check without cover/concealment
36:33 <Avatar> to me it says that using stealth sort of automatically starts combat
37:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> bah nvm
37:09 <Mekkis> Usually a Stealth check is made at the start of a free, move, or swift action when you start that action with either some kind of cover (except for soft cover) or concealment.
37:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> re-read the part where you need cover/concealment
37:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> thought that was the optional shit
37:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> FFS
37:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> fuck dnd
37:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> at least from a stealthy point of view
37:44 <Avatar> FFS
37:47 <Avatar> FUCK IT ALL
37:52 <Mekkis> yeah
38:00 <Avatar> let's just wrap this game up right now
38:06 <Avatar> and play eye or something
38:07 <Mekkis> we could wait decades for a perfect system to come out!
38:27 <Mekkis> or, we could decide the Pathfinder Is Good Enough, and sit down and have fun with it.
38:32 <Avatar> let's start a new channel called #eye so that we don't have to bother with d&d ever again !
38:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> perfect? eh
38:44 <Mekkis> I'll take the latter approach, thanks
39:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how hard is it to put in about another sentence to paragraph stating that FACING MAKES FUCKING SENCE WHEN DETERMINING PERCEPTION AND STEALTH
39:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you aren't going to visually percieve something from behind you
39:34 <Mekkis> because it'll be a lot more than a paragraph
39:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and neither are the NPCs
39:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how hard is it?
39:49 <Mekkis> ok
39:50 <Ballig> facing is hard to implement properly
39:52 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2_: long story short, facing complicates everything
39:54 <Mekkis> what's the FOV of a horse
40:00 <Mekkis> what about a dragon?
40:07 <Mekkis> what about a cyclops?
40:13 <Mekkis> what about a beholder?
40:20 <Avatar> what about a tree?
40:28 <Ballig> does facing disappear when you're in combat?
40:36 <Mekkis> what about a treent?
40:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it probably would when you're in combat
40:41 <Ballig> do you have to say which way you're facing in combat, and what are the penalties for not facing the right direction?
40:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> since you're expecting shit around you
40:46 <Avatar> what if you've been buried alive?
40:49 <Ballig> what about the round before combat starts?
40:54 <Ballig> so say that the guards aren't facing you and you attack them
40:55 <Mekkis> what if you have a mirror?
40:56 <Ballig> do they get penalties?
41:11 <Avatar> what if you wear glasses?
41:18 <Avatar> what if you wear MIRRORED glasses?
41:29 <Mekkis> how does /Arcane Sight/ interact with all this?
41:32 <Ballig> what if you have blind fight, or scent, or tremorsense?
41:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so basically, you're expecting there to be shit in there that logic would already dictate?
41:36 <Avatar> what if you're underwater?
41:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> rather than just saying what your average FOV would be?
41:47 <Avatar> what if you're in lava?
41:52 <Ballig> what about being lightblind
41:54 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, tell me how logic dictates any of this?
42:01 <Avatar> what if you're blind?
42:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ^^
42:09 <Avatar> what if you're colourblind?
42:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that was one for starters
42:23 <Mekkis> a human has a FOV of about 30 degrees, peripheral vision for up to 150-180 degrees....
42:45 <Mekkis> feel like making everyone bring cone templates to the table?
42:46 <Ballig> Avatar: the radio function only puts one song at a time at the end of your playlist
42:50 <Ballig> but once it starts playing that song, it puts another
42:51 <Avatar> yeah
42:59 <Mekkis> (hmmm...)
43:08 <Avatar> hmmmm
43:12 <Ballig> hmmm
43:14 <Mekkis> 1. Create system that implements cone-based FOV facing
43:38 <Mekkis> 2. Create and sell cone-based miniature bases to express this
43:40 <Mekkis> 3. ???
43:41 <Ballig> I work with someone who has no peripheral vision
43:43 <Mekkis> 4. Profit!!!
43:49 <Ballig> I can steal t hings from her desk while she's sitting at it and she has no idea
44:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you probably wouldn't need to go as far as FOV
44:58 <Mekkis> to be fair, my solution would be to define "observe"
44:59 <Ballig> well, that's what facing with perception is though
45:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> FOV is only needed when munchkins are at the table, and the GM is going 100% by RAW
45:16 <Ballig> anyway, also need to realise that "perception" takes sound into account as well
45:20 <Ballig> and general awareness of a presence
45:24 <Ballig> even if you can't see it, or necessarily hear it
45:37 <Avatar> stealth takes move silently into account
45:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig, the issue isn't the perception roll
45:46 <Ballig> Avatar: yeah
45:51 <Mekkis> basically make it that you can hide in plain sight at a -30 or something
46:04 <Mekkis> that way you can benefit from distance modifiers to perception
46:10 <Ballig> well, that's how I interpret the distraction rule
46:14 <Mekkis> (-1 for every 10', remember that?)
46:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the issue is that RAW says that you can't stealth without any form of cover/concealment/bluff distraction
46:29 <Mekkis> yes
46:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's the stupid part
46:59 <Mekkis> and because of this, it's unreasonable to assume that some DMs don't do it that way
47:00 <Avatar> I still can't see how you see that interpretation at all
47:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because many DMs (probs such as mekkis) would rule that them facing the total opposite direction to you isn't enough to be able to stealth
47:12 <Ballig> Mekkis: do you know of any way to clear the buffer on a socket in Qt
47:15 <Ballig> without sending it
47:29 <Mekkis> what are you trying to do?
47:38 <Ballig> cancel the uploading of an image
48:03 <Mekkis> isn't the best thing to do just get the client to stop requesting the next chunk?
48:13 <Ballig> it doesn't request chunk by chunk
48:23 <Mekkis> oh
48:28 <Ballig> it requests, and the server sends it as chunks but it does it all in one loop
49:14 <Ballig> er, I think
49:16 <Ballig> I'll have to check that
49:56 <Ballig> yeah it doesn't send any more messages once it starts receiving the image
53:54 <Mekkis> nope
54:27 <Mekkis> best way to do it would be to send the file on a different socket
54:29 <Avatar> pathfinder's feats are 1st/3rd/5th/7th/9th aren't they
54:33 <Mekkis> yeah
54:43 <Avatar> seems like I had a lot
55:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> anywho, going to bed
55:30 <Ballig> would be kind of annoying to have to manage multiple sockets
55:35 <Ballig> but might be necessary
55:59 <Mekkis> could you send a URI as an optional parameter to the image
56:08 <Ballig> yeah I will work on that
58:38 <Avatar> should I stick with musket or go double hackbut
59:01 <Avatar> the hackbut isn't really an option with my other character unless I want to waste an enormous amount of money
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00:21 <Avatar> oh wait, maybe it's considered a siege engine
00:50 <Avatar> A musket master only gains 
00:50 <Avatar> prof iciency with two-handed f irearms. She must take the 
00:50 <Avatar> Exotic Weapon Prof iciency (f irearm) feat to gain prof iciency 
00:50 <Avatar> with two-handed f irearms and f irearm siege engines. 
00:55 <Avatar> does that sound wrong
01:05 <Avatar> is that meant to say one-handed firearms
01:21 <Ballig> sounds like it's meant to say one-handed
02:31 <Sachiru> Guys, know of any swift action buff spells for fighters/barbarians that aren't evocation, necromancy, enchantment or illusion in nature?
02:46 <Ballig> you're such a munchkin
03:46 <Ballig> maybe I'll upload the data on a timer (it takes a while for the buffer to be sent anyway, so a timer won't make it slower) and then clear the timer
03:57 <Avatar> Sachiru: cat's grace
04:01 <Ballig> swift
04:05 <Avatar> oh
04:08 <Avatar> quickened cat's grace?
04:12 <Ballig> cat's grace will only work with the quicken spell feat
04:13 <Avatar> are any spells swift?
04:19 <Ballig> there are some
04:19 <Sachiru> How are swift action buffs "munchkinny"?
04:22 <Avatar> like what
04:23 <Ballig> spell compendium probably has more
04:30 <Avatar> is this for 3.5
04:34 <Ballig> Sachiru: did I say that swift action buffs were munchkinny?
04:37 <Ballig> I said you're such a munchkin
04:51 <Avatar> you did imply he is munchkinny for asking
05:00 <Ballig> it's not just the swift action buffs
05:01 <Sachiru> Yeah, which precludes the assumption that ^what avatar said.
05:09 <Ballig> it's the swift action buffs for fighter/barbarians that aren't evocation, necromancy, enchantment or illusion
05:26 <Avatar> what's wrong with evocation necromancy enchantment or illusion
05:32 <Avatar> that seems like a pretty hefty restriction
05:39 <Sachiru> I dunno, could it probably be because they are on my banned schools list?
05:47 <Avatar> why do you have 4 banned schools
05:49 <Sachiru> As a wizard?
05:55 <Ballig> he's a munchkin
05:57 <Sachiru> Focused Specialist Conjuration.
06:11 <Avatar> can I see your char sheet
07:22 <Sachiru> Still planning one.
07:39 <Sachiru> I'm checking the viability of a wizard 8 focused entirely on buffs.
09:12 <Avatar> why do you need super high spell save DCs for that
09:35 <Ballig> that's not what the build does
09:41 <Avatar> or do you get extra slots for conjuration spells
09:47 <Avatar> I'm trying to understand the feat
09:49 <Sachiru> I didn't get it for the DCs.
09:53 <Sachiru> I got it for the extra slots.
09:59 <Avatar> yeah fair enough
10:20 <Avatar> what swift action spells are there
10:26 <Avatar> I didn't know any existed unless they were quickened
11:22 <Sachiru> Well, Wraithstrike is one.
11:46 <Avatar> what book is that in
11:53 <Ballig> spell compendium, likely
11:58 <Ballig> spell compendium has a lot of broken spells
13:15 <Avatar> yeah, spell compendium p243
13:37 <Avatar> There have been other threads that have discussed the various abuses of wraithstrike. It is pretty easy to abuse.
17:47 <Avatar> hmm grit becomes extremely sexy at level 7
18:01 <Ballig> why
19:52 <Avatar> one deed lets me target certain body parts
20:03 <Avatar> which have different effects if(/when, ho ho ho) they hit
20:04 <Ballig> what does that do
20:16 <Avatar> shooting their arms makes them drop their weapon
20:18 <Sachiru> Deafening Clang looks nice.
20:21 <Avatar> legs makes them drop prone
20:32 <Avatar> head makes them confused for 1 round
20:40 <Avatar> torso extended the critical to 19-20
20:55 <Avatar> wings makes them roll a fly check DC 20 or fall 20ft
21:02 <Avatar> all of them incur damage normally as well
21:31 <Avatar> another deed allows me to purposely miss a shot that would normally hit, but causes them to go flatfooted
21:40 <Avatar> that one's free though
22:01 <Avatar> another deed lets me roll all my attacks and damage using all my bonuses
22:08 <Ballig> how much does the prone cost in grit
22:19 <Ballig> and does it require a CMB check
22:22 <Avatar> 1 
22:25 <Avatar> no CMB
22:34 <Ballig> that'd be pretty good for tripping fighter-types
22:38 <Ballig> that you might not otherwise be able to trip
22:47 <Avatar> creatures with 4 or more legs are immune to it though
22:56 <Avatar> or if they're immune to being tripped
23:11 <Avatar> like a gelatinous cube or something I guess
25:06 <Ballig> yeah
27:01 <Avatar> man I wish I found this radio thing ages ago
27:31 <Ballig> haha
27:38 <Ballig> that's why I wanted to use pandora
27:45 <Avatar> yeah pandora was good
27:49 <Ballig> grooveshark stopped playing music and wouldn't start again so I'm watching doctor who
27:54 <Avatar> haha
28:12 <Avatar> have you seen COMMUNITY yet
28:18 <Ballig> ofc
28:21 <Ballig> I'm pretty sure I told you to watch it
28:25 <Avatar> you didn't
28:29 <Ballig> I'm sure I did
28:30 <Avatar> just about everyone else did
28:33 <Avatar> no not you
28:36 <Ballig> yep
28:38 <Ballig> ages ago
28:43 <Ballig> I was like "Avatar, have you seen Community?"
28:46 <Ballig> and you were like "No that sounds stupid"
28:49 <Ballig> and I said "no it's hilarious"
28:52 <Ballig> but you wouldn't believe me
28:55 <Avatar> that does sound like me
29:01 <Ballig> because there was no fat guy in an island bunker
29:03 <Avatar> but you know me well enough to make up a conversation like that
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07:30 <Avatar> hmm almost forgot we have a game in 8 hours
07:43 <Ballig> yeah I'm not tired
07:46 <Ballig> because of my christmas nap
08:12 <Avatar> will just have to have another nap in between I guess
24:24 <Avatar> looks like I've been paying $17/month since at least september for something I don't recognise
40:26 <S711> SOPA is one step, what's the next step, what's next in line.
40:28 * S711 wonders.
41:35 <Avatar> what
57:02 <Avatar> jesus, snap shot is a pretty sexy gunslinger feat
54:41 <Ballig> did you actually sleep Avatar
43:24 <MekkisScreen> moin
44:32 <Ballig> moi
47:21 <Avatar> I think this is the first time I'll be okay on 3 hours sleep
48:12 <Ballig> ha
48:13 <Ballig> I had 4 hours
52:02 <Avatar> so we still need brunius, thelen and jaggedsoul to show up in the next hour
53:27 <Ballig> was uh
53:30 <Ballig> horace playing?
53:48 <Avatar> nope
53:52 <Avatar> his character is hardold
53:55 <Avatar> harold*
53:58 <Ballig> yeah what did he play in
53:59 <Ballig> isn't he a wizard
54:02 <Ballig> he was the other wizard
54:09 <Avatar> oh yeah he was there
54:10 <Ballig> the one who was shifting through walls to avoid the animalbeast
54:17 <Avatar> did we have 6 people
54:18 <Ballig> thelen wasn't
54:20 <Avatar> oh right thelen
54:20 <Ballig> he slept through
54:21 <Avatar> haha
54:31 <Ballig> I messaged horace on skype about an hour ago
54:34 <Ballig> but didn't get a response
54:47 <Avatar> I guess he gets to lead from now on
54:52 <Ballig> ha
54:55 <Ballig> a level 1 wizard leading
55:39 <Ballig> his shift ability is pretty useful though
55:54 <Ballig> he knew what was happening with that beastguy
56:16 <Avatar> what do you mean
56:26 <Avatar> the one who went for you
56:41 <Ballig> yeah
56:50 <Ballig> we both knew it was coming around the building and we were going to be raped from behind
56:53 <Ballig> so he shifted inside the building
57:14 <Avatar> leaving you to die
57:42 <Ballig> yeah :p
58:54 <Ballig> I'm pretty close to doing cancel upload/download
59:48 <Avatar> man all I care about is offsets
59:52 <Ballig> ha
59:53 <Avatar> that feature is going to change my life
00:51 <Ballig> [9:52:42 AM] <Karrius> Pathfinder is basically just 3.5 + houserules
00:51 <Ballig> [9:52:52 AM] <Karrius> Not particularly groundbreaking houserules, but houserules.
00:51 <Ballig> [9:56:21 AM] <Ballig> it's a little more than just houserules
00:51 <Ballig> [9:56:22 AM] <Ballig> it's 3.75
00:51 <Ballig> [9:56:49 AM] <Karrius> In that it changed a bunch of stuff for no reason, and failed to fix the major failings of the base rules, and instead basically were the designer's poor houserules that showed a lack of understanding of the system?
00:51 <Ballig> [9:56:52 AM] <Karrius> I'm glad we totally agree.
00:51 <Ballig> [9:57:12 AM] <Ballig> yes that's exactly what I meant
00:52 <Ballig> [9:59:32 AM] <Karrius> If you're being serious I apologize for snarkiness. :p
00:52 <Ballig> [10:00:04 AM] <Ballig> why would you only apologise for snarkiness if I agree with you?
01:35 <Avatar> americanos
02:02 <Avatar> failed to fix major failings of the base rules?
02:33 <Ballig> it sounds like he has an issue with 3.5 in general
02:36 <Avatar> I have to admit, I did prefer star wars' 2m squares instead of d&d's 5ft
02:38 <Ballig> which is why I'm not bothering to argue with him
02:57 <Ballig> 2m is just the metric form
03:07 <Avatar> yeah still
03:19 <Ballig> why does that make a difference
03:28 <Avatar> because it's metric
04:25 <Ballig> how does that affect the game though
04:36 <Ballig> you could convert pathfinder/D&D into metric if you wanted to
07:33 <Avatar> everyone would get thrown off if you tried to houserule it
10:13 <Ballig> make your own RPG, because no one has ever tried doing that before
10:14 <Ballig> haha!
11:02 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: have you been arguing with Karrius
11:33 <Ballig> I wouldn't classify it as arguing
11:47 <Ballig> he clearly has a strong opinion on D&D3.5/Pathfinder so I didn't bother
11:51 <MekkisScreen> he's like spaceshot, but he knows and does moe
11:55 <MekkisScreen> more*
11:57 <Ballig> ha
12:56 <Ballig> why do we let jaggedsoul play
13:58 <Avatar> why not
14:21 <Ballig> he's a bit unreliable
14:33 <Avatar> I guess he is always late
14:49 <Avatar> he did show on that thursday, even if not on the tuesday
15:04 <Ballig> yeah there was the thursday
15:07 <Ballig> the tuesday was ridiculous though
15:14 <Avatar> he is otherwise a reasonable player
16:39 <Avatar> someone got one of these for xmas: http://store.irobot.com/home/index.jsp
16:53 <Avatar> I am foaming at the mouth at the notion that they exist for domestic use
17:38 <Avatar> I wonder if $400-600 is too much to pay when you're not working
18:44 <Ballig> which one
19:00 <Avatar> she got the vacuum one
19:06 <Ballig> ah, roomba
19:07 <Ballig> that's not uncommon
19:20 <Avatar> I've never heard of it
19:26 <Ballig> really?
19:31 <Ballig> they've been around for about 5 years
19:38 <Avatar> apparently when it starts running out of battery, it goes to find its docking station and recharges itself ??
19:50 <Ballig> sorry, it's been around for 9 years
20:04 <Ballig> I imagine a higher cost one would
20:06 <Avatar> why doesn't almost everyone have one
20:12 <Ballig> because they're not very good
20:16 <Avatar> do people LIKE cleaning
20:24 <Avatar> how are they not very good
20:25 <Avatar> do they miss spots
20:29 <Ballig> they can bump into furniture a lot
20:31 <Ballig> and get stuck
22:23 <Ballig> I only have two rooms with carpet
22:40 <Avatar> two of my four rooms are carpet
22:46 <Ballig> same
22:55 <Ballig> 5 rooms if you count my laundry, I guess
23:11 <Avatar> laundries are for pussies
23:40 <Ballig> where is your washing machine
25:16 <Avatar> I don't have one
25:31 <Avatar> it's supposed to go in my bathroom, but that would be impossible
25:47 <Avatar> it would make me have to cilmb over it to get to the shower and sit on it to use the basin
26:55 <Ballig> haha
27:05 <Ballig> I can't live without a washing machine, I did it once
27:18 <Avatar> yeah I'll never do it again
27:27 <Avatar> if I ever move
27:37 <Avatar> on the plus side, I am paying stupidly cheap rent for this place
27:43 <Ballig> how much
27:49 <Avatar> $1043/month
27:55 <Ballig> I pay $800/month
28:11 <Avatar> when I was paying about $900/month, one of the apartments in the same building was going for $1280/month
28:26 <Ballig> ha
29:02 <Avatar> I think I'm paying the cost for the same place 2 suburbs further out
29:40 <Avatar> the irony is if I was in a better paying job, it would probably be worth paying more for a place with a laundry
30:11 <Ballig> s/was in a better paying/had a/
31:21 <Avatar> either or
31:38 <Avatar> I worked out I was definitely getting paid 48K before
31:44 <Avatar> really shit
32:08 <Ballig> not including super?
32:12 <Avatar> yeah
32:23 <Ballig> bit gay
32:36 <Ballig> on the bright side, when applying for other jobs no one knows what your salary was
32:45 <Avatar> yeah
32:48 <Ballig> so as long as you sounded awesome, you can get a job that pays what you should be getting
33:01 <Ballig> unfortunately "telemarketer" doesn't sound awesome
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33:09 <Ballig> sup Jaggedsoul
33:12 <Jaggedsoul> hey
33:16 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul 
33:22 <Avatar> this is strangely on time for you
33:24 <Jaggedsoul> you guys playin already?
33:33 <Avatar> oh what time did you think we were starting
33:50 <Ballig> weren't we starting half an hour ago
33:57 <Jaggedsoul> no
33:58 <Avatar> no, 11am
33:59 <Ballig> oh, right
33:59 <Avatar> you jokers
34:04 <Jaggedsoul> 8 am my time
34:10 <Ballig> maybe better not annoy Horace for another half an hour then
34:13 <Avatar> even Jaggedsoul had it right !
34:26 <Avatar> I am amazed mekkis was up early
34:31 <Ballig> haha
35:37 <Jaggedsoul> Avatar do we get any gold for WBG? 
36:21 <Ballig> 500
37:15 <Jaggedsoul> no kiddin?
37:49 <Avatar> yeah
37:58 <Jaggedsoul> great
38:09 <Jaggedsoul> what's a day job?
38:21 <Avatar> do you have ranks in craft or profession
38:26 <Jaggedsoul> no
38:31 <Mekkis> .
38:38 <Avatar> if you did, you could make a roll at the end of each scenario
38:41 <Avatar> and get some gold for it
38:48 <Jaggedsoul> ahhh ok
38:51 <Mekkis> you don't get to roll at the end of WBG :S
38:58 <Avatar> really
39:08 <Jaggedsoul> too bad
39:08 <Mekkis> nope
39:13 <Avatar> that's convenient, because I forgot to ask everyone to do it
39:27 <Mekkis> remember how we didn't at Unicon
39:33 <Avatar> nope
39:37 <Ballig> of course he wouldn't remember
39:40 <Ballig> that happened more than two days ago
40:18 <Mekkis> Avatar, considered working at NAB?
40:20 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/NABCareers.png
40:34 <Mekkis> their website seems tailored to you
40:46 <Jaggedsoul> are we still on for that campaign where we'll create an 8th lvl char?
41:14 <Ballig> what campaign is that
42:01 <Jaggedsoul> for CotE, I think
42:25 <Ballig> CoTE is a level 1 campaign
42:48 <Jaggedsoul> that's not it then
43:36 <Jaggedsoul> only thing I remember is that we'll create an 8th lvl character for that campaign
43:59 <Mekkis> I was thinking of running CoED
44:02 <Mekkis> that's 8th
44:40 <Jaggedsoul> is that still on?
45:02 <Mekkis> not until there's sufficient interest
45:26 <Jaggedsoul> I'm interested...
46:19 <Ballig> Avatar: http://i.imgur.com/TQVMF.jpg
54:05 <Avatar> Mekkis: yeah I saw that, I don't get it
54:22 <Mekkis> that's exactly what their website looked like to me
54:36 <Ballig> should we text Brunius now
54:57 <Avatar> no, just make him lead
55:01 <Avatar> well
55:04 <Avatar> either him or horace
55:07 <Avatar> tough call
55:56 <Avatar> we really should get some set rules about online play down, like what you risk when you agree to a game and don't show up on time
56:20 <Avatar> (without notice)
56:21 <Jaggedsoul> and what you gain when you're early. :)
56:31 <Avatar> you gain full control of your character
56:39 <Ballig> I was here at 8.30
56:41 <Ballig> what do *I* get
56:49 <Avatar> same thing
56:54 <Avatar> I don't care if you're here at 8.30 or 9.30
57:04 <Avatar> or 10.30, today 
57:06 <Ballig> what if the game started at 9
57:13 <Avatar> that changes things
00:27 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/U1KoD.jpg
00:43 <Mekkis> .
01:36 <Avatar> wow
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02:15 <Jaggedsoul> is that a dimension door? :)
02:16 <Avatar> Brunius are you here
02:23 <Avatar> it's a portal
02:44 <Avatar> Ballig: how long do you normally need to prepare a scenari
02:46 <Avatar> o
03:00 <Ballig> about an hour
03:36 <Avatar> Mekkis how come you need a week
04:10 <Avatar> my preparation is usually a bit garbage, but I could easily do it properly in an afternoon
04:12 <Mekkis> because I like being thorough
04:19 <Mekkis> plus
04:22 <Avatar> what exactly do you do to be thorough
04:26 <Mekkis> I actually get the maps to line u
04:28 <Mekkis> p
04:30 <Avatar> give me some advice
04:39 <Ballig> I spend that hour getting maps to line up
04:44 <Ballig> if I have more time I like to read through the entire scenario
04:47 <Mekkis> read the scenario
04:53 <Avatar> how long does it take you to read the scenario
05:00 <Mekkis> half hour or so
05:04 <Ballig> about that
05:12 <Avatar> so where is the rest of the time going
05:15 <Avatar> not into map aligning, surely
05:16 <Mekkis> then go over it and try to anticipate what questions and actions the PCs will do
05:19 <Ballig> I'm hoping that map offsets in CA will remove the hour from map alignment
05:42 <Mekkis> Ballig, you'll need a stretch function in there too, for that
05:55 <Avatar> yeah I did notice the feature didn't do quite what I thought it would
05:58 <Mekkis> then look up any notable deities, areas, and NPCs
06:00 <Ballig> I've never stretched a map
06:12 <Avatar> you'd need cropping in there I think
06:19 <Ballig> er
06:24 <Ballig> the offset removes the need for cropping
06:26 <Ballig> you just do a negative offset
06:30 <Avatar> oh yeah
06:36 <Mekkis> it's the stretching
06:42 <Ballig> I've never stretched a map
06:47 <Mekkis> if one grid square is 26.5 pixels, for instance
06:55 <Ballig> why would it be 26.5 pixels
07:08 <Ballig> and if only one is 26.5, stretching would change all of them
07:23 <Ballig> so it becomes 26.4, but all the rest become 25.9
07:30 <Mekkis> if each grid square is 26.5 pixels
07:45 <Ballig> how is it even possible for something to be half a pixel
08:51 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
08:58 <Nanashi-Chan> Are the most of the games played around this time?
09:06 <Ballig> yeah
09:16 <Ballig> because most people are available at this time
09:46 <Ballig> if you wanted to play earlier or later you'd have to see if people were available
10:46 <Nanashi-Chan> So... hmm how are good and evil determined in the society games? Is the good of the society as whole the guiding light for the "good conduct" for example would "do goodery" that hurts the society be penalized and looked down on?
11:27 <Ballig> probably
12:20 <Avatar> that is an excellent question
12:28 <Avatar> what happens if you do things that hurt the society
12:38 <Avatar> if you do things that hurt your faction, you probably lose prestige
12:45 <Ballig> you might fail missions
13:02 <Mekkis> Nanashi-Chan, "good" and "evil" are generally put into the "too-hard" basket
13:05 <Avatar> what happens if you're andoran and help out a cheliax character in direct opposition to your andoran beliefs
13:28 <Mekkis> the DM should make a note on your chronicle sheet
13:37 <Avatar> to say what
13:51 <Ballig> but DMs don't read all your chronicle sheets before a game
13:54 <Ballig> so it would never come up, would it
13:59 <Nanashi-Chan> Mekkis i know, but some dms look at them as very differently. 
14:31 <Mekkis> it might
14:34 <Nanashi-Chan> So society would not look down on the anti-paladin i saw in the books (no not planning to play as one)
14:41 <Avatar> that is a good point, what happens if you have a condition and never mention it
14:51 <Mekkis> then you're cheating
15:02 <Avatar> yeah but like what if you forget
15:18 <Avatar> do you take action when you remember 3 levels later
15:29 <Mekkis> then you should know better
15:38 <Avatar> yeah but how do you resolve it
15:51 <Avatar> mr crying over spilt milk
15:52 <Mekkis> you explain the matter to your local VC
15:55 <Mekkis> and ask him
16:08 <Avatar> and what would he say !!
16:11 <Mekkis> he's only 1600km away from me
16:14 <Avatar> let's pretend you are the local VC
16:36 <Mekkis> if I knew that, I'd be more willing to take up his offer for becoming the local VC
16:49 <Nanashi-Chan> Also, how shunned are witches in the general population?
16:57 <Avatar> not at all
17:00 <Avatar> they're just another class
17:13 <Nanashi-Chan> So no "burn the heretic!"
17:16 <Avatar> classes aren't shunned by default
17:22 <Mekkis> only in some areas
17:24 <Avatar> that would create some pretty grave imbalance
17:33 <Mekkis> like in the north
17:50 <Avatar> like irrisen? because shades of ice doesn't penalise witches
18:07 <Nanashi-Chan> And necromancy as tool? Since many classes support it.
18:19 <Mekkis> Irrisen does
18:34 <Mekkis> (as part of the preparation that I do, I read up on these things)
18:47 <Avatar> why would the scenario not make any mention of that rather major fact
19:27 <Mekkis> because there aren't enough pages
19:42 <Avatar> it would be like one extra sidebar
19:48 <Avatar> or one extra sentence
19:58 <Avatar> brunius hasn't replied to my sms
20:09 <Avatar> and horace hasn't replied to skype
20:14 <Avatar> so we're pretty okay to start without them if you guys want to
20:21 <Mekkis> k...
20:57 <Avatar> I can't hear anyone
21:10 <Jaggedsoul> I can hear you
21:37 <Ballig> I didn't have my mic plugged in
21:38 <Ballig> jerk
23:36 <Avatar> your the jerk
23:42 <Mekkis> you're*
23:50 <Mekkis> one of you jerks call me ok?
24:18 <Jaggedsoul> are we using our characters?
24:27 <Avatar> yeah of course
24:31 <Avatar> continuation of last week
24:34 <Ballig> call failed Mekkis
24:34 <Avatar> er, saturday
24:55 <Jaggedsoul> me too
25:08 <Ballig> call failed again
25:12 <Ballig> it's failing immediately
25:52 <Mekkis> try now
26:02 <Ballig> failed
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26:44 <Avatar> why are you trying to call me
26:58 <Mekkis> well that side works
27:26 <Avatar> do you want to try host it
27:30 <Avatar> and invite everyone
28:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you guys about to play some pfs?
28:40 <Avatar> some sweet pfs, yep
28:40 <Ballig> some sweet pfs
28:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I dunno...
29:45 <Avatar> what's going on mekkis
34:04 <Jaggedsoul> yeah
34:27 <Jaggedsoul> once the new house is finished
34:47 <Jaggedsoul> it's crowded at my in-laws right now
35:07 <Jaggedsoul> and then there's the budget
35:12 <Jaggedsoul> :)
36:37 <Mekkis> what?
36:43 <Avatar> are you coming
37:23 Avatar gives voice to Ballig Jaggedsoul Mekkis
37:24 Ballig is now known as Samsuhn
37:31 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+1 fortitude
37:31 <diebot> Samsuhn, fortitude: [1d20=6] 7
38:04 Jaggedsoul is now known as Gogg
38:11 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+4 fort
38:12 <diebot> Nightmare, fort: [1d20=2] 6
38:31 <Nightmare> what's the fortitude save for?
38:43 <Avatar> you'll see
38:47 <Gogg> !throw 1d20+6 fort
38:47 <diebot> Gogg, fort: [1d20=5] 11
38:52 <Nightmare> I mean, is it some cloud?
38:58 <Nightmare> or is it being bitten?
39:05 <Nightmare> or do we *feel* anything?
39:19 <Nightmare> what sort of something
39:31 <Nightmare> ah
40:10 <Gogg> I feel...like digging
40:39 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+5 harold fort save
40:39 <diebot> Avatar, harold fort save: [1d20=20] 25
40:51 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4 derau fort save
40:51 <diebot> Avatar, derau fort save: [1d20=15] 19
41:21 <Avatar> Nightmare, Gogg and Samsuhn grow thicker skin
41:29 <Avatar> (+1 to AC, natural armour)
41:40 <Avatar> grow claws on their fingers
41:48 <Avatar> and sharper teeth
41:59 <Avatar> (allowing you 2 claw attacks and 1 bite attack)
42:33 <Gogg> will it be all at the highest BAB?
42:40 <Nightmare> claws?
42:44 <Nightmare> I've already got claws
42:48 <Nightmare> and teeth
43:02 <Avatar> feel more fortified
43:03 <Nightmare> does that mean that they increase by a size category?
43:04 <Avatar> (+2 to con)
43:11 <Avatar> but feel stupider (-2 to int)
43:18 <Avatar> and look worse (-2 to cha)
43:27 <Gogg> Gogg friendly
43:30 <Gogg> :)
45:01 <Nightmare> we are NOT resting!
45:11 <Nightmare> hell no
45:23 <Nightmare> we don't have time, do we
46:24 <Nightmare> fine then
46:35 <Avatar> new fortitude saves please
46:37 <Gogg> !throw 1d20+7 fort
46:37 <diebot> Gogg, fort: [1d20=12] 19
46:45 <Samsuhn> I'll cast resistance on everyone
46:50 <Nightmare> does the con change affect my eidoloin or my character?
47:07 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+6
47:08 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+6: [1d20=17] 23
47:16 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2 fortitude
47:16 <diebot> Samsuhn, fortitude: [1d20=20] 22
47:26 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+5 harold fort save
47:27 <diebot> Avatar, harold fort save: [1d20=19] 24
47:31 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4 derau fort save
47:32 <diebot> Avatar, derau fort save: [1d20=11] 15
48:54 <Gogg> but it wont be worse?
49:11 <Avatar> PCs who gained the template at the beginning of Act 2 need not save again, but they do suffer an additional day’s worth of ability damage as their mental faculties continue to deteriorate.
49:17 <Gogg> or better from my vantage point
49:24 <Avatar> -2 again to int and cha
49:31 <Nightmare> actually, Gogg, BAD things happen when it reaches 0
49:43 <Nightmare> is it ability damage?
51:10 <Avatar> so the 3 of you have -3 int and -3 cha now
51:25 <Avatar> A deep, placid river interrupts the path to Briar Henge. A few large logs have been placed across the river, providing a crude bridge to access the other side. Sunlight dapples the surface of the murky water, the result of branches crisscrossing the river high overhead.
51:53 <Avatar> 124.148.166.248
55:02 <Gogg> so how much time do we have left?
55:08 <Avatar> 1 day
55:18 <Avatar> you woke up at dawn
57:23 <Nightmare> I'll try to run and jump it
58:35 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+6
58:36 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+6: [1d20=2] 8
59:15 <Nightmare> I'll clambor up and try again
00:00 <Nightmare> okay
00:01 <Nightmare> w/e
00:19 <Avatar> you land next to a crocodile
00:21 <Avatar> roll initiative
00:23 <Nightmare> fun
00:35 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+2
00:36 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=11] 13
00:41 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 initiative
00:42 <diebot> Samsuhn, initiative: [1d20=1] 4
00:47 <Gogg> so the large logs are actually crocs huh?
00:52 <Gogg> @init
00:52 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20-1: [1d20=19] 18
01:09 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 @Avatar
02:50 <Nightmare> !findchar Derau
02:53 <diebot> Nightmare, Character: Derau, number: 277( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=277 )
02:53 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 Harold init
02:53 <diebot> Samsuhn, Harold init: [1d20=19] 22
05:06 <Nightmare> 14/14 | 23/23
05:15 <Samsuhn> 14/14
05:21 <Gogg> 15/15
06:51 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 Harold init
06:52 <diebot> Samsuhn, Harold init: [1d20=19] 22
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08:52 <Avatar> the crocodile attempts to bite Nightmare
09:22 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
09:23 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=7] 11
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09:26 <Avatar> missing
10:02 <Nightmare> now what?
10:09 <Avatar> an arrow comes out from somewhere 
10:14 <Nightmare> fun fun fun fun
10:24 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 where did it come from
10:25 <diebot> Nightmare, where did it come from: [1d20=15] 16
10:37 <Avatar> you can't tell
11:36 <Gogg> how about us?
11:51 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception
11:51 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=11] 14
11:58 <Gogg> @see
12:03 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20-2 harold perception
12:03 <diebot> Samsuhn, harold perception: [1d20=16] 14
12:13 <Gogg> @perceive
12:34 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception
12:34 <diebot> Gogg, perception: [1d20=6] 4
13:15 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
13:16 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=2] 6
13:29 <Nightmare> "Across the river, north of the path, under (or in) a tree!"
13:48 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
14:17 <Avatar> Cantrips: Detect Magic, Read Magic, Message    Lvl 1: Grease, mage armor, mount, color spray, and grease domain spell
15:26 <Samsuhn> !dist 25 15
15:27 <diebot> Samsuhn, Length of hypotenuse: 29.154759
15:40 <Samsuhn> Harold will move 15 feet west
15:44 <Samsuhn> and cast acid splash at the crocodile
15:53 <Avatar> roll it
16:01 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 acid splash
16:02 <diebot> Samsuhn, acid splash: [1d20=3] 6
16:15 <Avatar> miss
16:19 <Samsuhn> end turn
16:22 <Avatar> the crocodile bites Nightmare again
16:30 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
16:30 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=6] 10
16:40 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
16:49 <Gogg> double move
16:55 <Gogg> p11
17:22 <Avatar> 40ft at P12
17:25 <Gogg> yeah\
17:31 <Gogg> draw greataxe
17:33 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
18:00 <Avatar> are you there mekkis
18:27 <Avatar> Nightmare delays
18:29 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
19:51 <Brunius> ohaidere
19:56 <Samsuhn> move nrothwest, and then west to R12, and cast Daze on the crocodile
20:05 Avatar gives voice to Brunius
20:11 Brunius is now known as Derau
20:14 <Gogg> where?
20:15 <Avatar> you're stuck with mekkis' spell list now
20:21 <Derau> Uh-oh
20:26 <Derau> What did Mekkis give me?
20:57 <Derau> Where's the new version of CA?
20:59 <Derau> And what IP?
21:02 <Avatar> in your pm
21:04 <Avatar> 124.148.166.248
21:09 <Samsuhn> http://www.ballig.net/DevCA-testVersion.zip
21:09 <Avatar> it's the same version as CA that we used last time
21:09 <Samsuhn> I think
21:14 <Samsuhn> we used it on Saturday
21:24 <Derau> Yeah we did
21:29 <Avatar> are you jumping on skype
21:33 <Derau> I don't have it on this computer though
21:35 <Derau> Yeah I will
22:26 <Avatar> the crocodile appears dazed
22:46 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
23:56 <Nightmare> I'll undelay
24:39 <Avatar> whichever one of you takes action first can go first
24:47 <Nightmare> ok
24:52 <Nightmare> call out
25:06 <Nightmare> "We're not the lycanthropes you seek. Stop throwing your silver into the river!"
25:27 <Nightmare> then clamor out to P10
25:45 <Avatar> there's no respones
25:56 <Samsuhn> hey, the daze helped
26:03 <Avatar> did you want to move further away knowing he's dazed
26:07 <Samsuhn> (the crocodile wont' get any AOOs)
26:08 <Avatar> no AoO's apply
26:14 <Nightmare> nope
26:19 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
26:21 <Derau> 20ft W and ready crossbow to fire if the croc tries any attacks
26:22 <Nightmare> I want to stab the croc
26:31 <Avatar> roll it
26:37 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
26:37 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=3] 8
26:43 <Nightmare> end turn
27:10 <Derau> gg
27:22 <Derau> Yeah I'll just attack then
27:45 <Avatar> another arrow shoots out, this time at Gogg
27:51 <Derau> @ranged
27:52 <diebot> Derau, Crossbow: [1d20=3] 4; Damage: [1d8=8] 8
27:54 <Avatar> miss
28:18 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
28:18 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=7] 11
28:31 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
28:40 <Samsuhn> !save acid: 1d20+2 ranged touch; 1d3 damage
28:40 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+2 ranged touch; 1d3 damage saved as @acid
28:55 <Gogg> can I do a 5ft step after an attack?
29:26 <Gogg> how far am I from the croc?
29:28 <Avatar> yes to attack-5ft, but no to move-attack-5ft
29:35 <Samsuhn> Harold will acid splash the crocodile
29:48 <Gogg> ok
29:50 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 ranged touch; 1d3 damage
29:50 <diebot> Samsuhn, ranged touch: [1d20=5] 8; damage: [1d3=3] 3
29:54 <Avatar> miss
29:58 <Gogg> move to 010
30:02 <Gogg> kill
30:14 <Avatar> the crocodile tries to bite Nightmare
30:25 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+1
30:25 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+1: [1d20=10] 11
30:30 <Avatar> same as usual
30:37 <Gogg> is it right that the croc made 3 moves already and I havent?
30:39 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
30:51 <Gogg> 5ft step
30:53 <Gogg> kill
30:59 <Avatar> roll to hit
31:25 <Gogg> !throw 1d20+6 greataxe
31:25 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe: [1d20=15] 21
31:37 <Avatar> roll damage
31:51 <Gogg> do I round up str modifier?
31:59 <Gogg> or round down?
32:01 <Gogg> ok
32:02 <Derau> down
32:03 <Derau> down
32:07 <Derau> prices are down
32:17 <Gogg> !throw 1d12+7 damage
32:17 <diebot> Gogg, damage: [1d12=6] 13
32:29 <Gogg> kill
32:29 <Derau> I hear it pretty often because my dad works at coles
32:36 <Avatar> it's seriously wounded
32:50 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
33:00 <Samsuhn> I will acid splash the crocodile
33:04 <Samsuhn> @acid
33:05 <diebot> Samsuhn, ranged touch: [1d20=7] 9; damage: [1d3=2] 2
33:12 <Samsuhn> end turn
33:16 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
33:19 <Derau> It's alright - We love you anyway :)
33:25 <Nightmare> any more arrows flying out?
33:39 <Nightmare> hmmm
33:55 <Nightmare> chomp the crocodile
34:10 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+4
34:11 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+4: [1d20=1] 5
34:31 <Gogg> I think you just bit your tongue Nightmare
34:38 <Nightmare> 5' east
34:42 <Nightmare> stab the croc
34:45 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
34:45 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=15] 20
34:53 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3
34:54 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d8+3: [1d8=8] 11
35:28 <Avatar> the crocodile gets sliced, and falls into the water
35:35 <Thelen> wut wut wut
35:45 <Samsuhn> Thelen: wanna play harold?
35:49 <Thelen> okey dokey
35:50 <Samsuhn> it's a wizard who hasn't showed up for the game
35:56 <Samsuhn> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=331
36:02 <Samsuhn> Cantrips: Detect Magic, Read Magic, Message    Lvl 1: Grease, mage armor, mount, color spray, and grease domain spell
36:07 <Samsuhn> (except it's Acid Splash instead of Message)
36:18 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
36:44 <Derau> No one around?
37:09 Thelen is now known as Harold
37:10 <Avatar> you can't see anyone, but someone is shooting arrows at you
37:16 <Avatar> I'd recommend a perception check
37:52 <Avatar> 124.148.166.248
37:57 <Samsuhn> voice Harold
38:03 Avatar gives voice to Harold
38:03 <Derau> !throw 1d20+5 Wisdom check
38:03 <diebot> Derau, Wisdom check: [1d20=5] 10
39:06 <Derau> That's 11 if it's perception
40:22 <Nightmare> someone cast guidance on me please
40:45 <Derau> I cast guidance on Nightmare
40:46 <Samsuhn> what's your swim modifier Nightmare
40:48 <Derau> Then end turn
41:12 <Nightmare> not much
41:15 <Nightmare> less than my jump
41:23 <Samsuhn> +4 or mroe?
41:26 <Samsuhn> more
41:29 <Nightmare> nope
41:32 <Samsuhn> ah
41:33 <Nightmare> why?
41:42 <Harold> who is who of whos?
41:54 <Nightmare> yay for "connection to wlan network lost
43:47 <Avatar> an arrow shoots at Gogg again
43:58 <Avatar> at Samsuhn
44:18 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
44:18 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=4] 8
44:30 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
46:24 * Harold moves 30ft west
46:28 <Derau> rb
46:31 <Derau> brb dammit
46:34 <Derau> Stupid keyboard
47:58 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 crossbow
47:59 <diebot> Harold, crossbow: [1d20=1] 4
48:07 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
48:22 <Gogg> drop prone
48:25 <Gogg> total def
48:45 <Gogg> :)
48:45 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
49:12 <Gogg> Coz Avatar foretold I might die
49:20 <Gogg> or Gogg might die
50:01 <Samsuhn> fire longbow at him
50:03 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2
50:03 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+2: [1d20=4] 6
50:07 <Samsuhn> and then drop prone
50:22 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
50:33 <Nightmare> let's try to jump the river again
52:35 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+7
52:36 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+7: [1d20=16] 23
52:47 <Nightmare> then move to G8
52:55 <Nightmare> and look the guy in the eye
53:16 <Nightmare> and say "Please stop shooting us with your overly expensive arrows."
53:28 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
53:28 <Nightmare> "It's a waste of money, lives, and effort."
53:47 <Derau> Anyone damaged?
53:47 <Avatar> he doesn't respond
53:50 <Nightmare> "Plus, it's not like it's hurting us anymore than the standard-issue ones."
53:53 <Avatar> no
54:58 <Derau> K14
55:04 <Derau> I end up at K14
55:23 <Avatar> as you try cross the log, an axe swings at you
55:29 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+10
55:29 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+10: [1d20=7] 17
55:46 <Derau> Everyone's HP?
55:52 <Samsuhn> 14/14
55:55 <Avatar> !throw 2d6+4
55:55 <diebot> Avatar, 2d6+4: [2d6=5,2] 11
55:57 <Nightmare> 14/14|23/23
55:58 <Avatar> dealing 11 damage
56:12 <Gogg> 15/15
57:01 <Avatar> the guy drops his longbow and arms a scimitar
57:14 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+1
57:15 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+1: [1d20=12] 13
57:17 <Avatar> missing Nightmare
57:27 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
57:39 <Nightmare> "Cease this pointless assault."
59:03 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
59:32 <Avatar> Harold springs another trap
59:36 <Avatar> a javelin shoots out
59:52 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+10
59:53 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+10: [1d20=1] 11
59:57 <Avatar> missing wildly
00:20 <Gogg> wait
00:42 <Derau> Harold HP?
00:51 <Harold> 10/10
01:00 <Gogg> what check do I use for a running jump?
02:39 <Gogg> standing up is a movement action?
02:43 <Harold> yes
03:40 <Gogg> can I throw a grappling hook at that tree and swing across?
04:43 <Avatar> move action to stand up
04:49 <Avatar> move action to attach the grappling hook
04:59 <Avatar> move action to swing across with acrobatics DC 10
05:09 <Avatar> standard to throw
05:15 <Gogg> stand up and try to get my grappling hook to attach
05:23 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
05:23 <Nightmare> brb
05:30 <Samsuhn> I'll stand and fire my longbow
05:35 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2
05:36 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+2: [1d20=1] 3
05:39 <Samsuhn> end turn
05:42 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
05:51 <Nightmare> bite the ranger
05:55 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
05:56 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=16] 21
06:01 <Nightmare> ummm +4
06:02 <Nightmare> sorry
06:10 <Avatar> hit
06:16 <Nightmare> !throw 1d6+3
06:17 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d6+3: [1d6=2] 5
06:26 <Nightmare> 5' south
06:36 <Nightmare> and spear the ranger
06:42 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
06:43 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=16] 21
06:45 <Avatar> hit
06:48 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3 damage
06:49 <diebot> Nightmare, damage: [1d8=6] 9
06:50 <Nightmare> end turn
06:57 <Avatar> and he drops
07:51 <Derau> What?
10:18 <Samsuhn> !rng break intact
10:18 <diebot> Samsuhn, intact
10:19 <Samsuhn> !rng break intact
10:19 <diebot> Samsuhn, break
10:20 <Samsuhn> !rng break intact
10:20 <diebot> Samsuhn, intact
10:57 <Gogg> but we can still keep the broken arowheads right?
11:13 <Gogg> *arrowheads
11:16 <Avatar> the guy has 17 silver arrows, 4 scrolls of CLW, leather armor, buckler, 2 scimitars, masterwork composite longbow, 20 arrows
11:21 <Gogg> "fer collection!"
11:28 <Derau> I take the CLW scrolls
11:29 <Samsuhn> bags the longbow
11:46 <Derau> I wake him with a channel
11:51 <Derau> 2 remaining
11:51 <Samsuhn> nevermind on the longbow
12:03 <Derau> 3
12:12 <Avatar> "Uh... Oh dear."
12:39 <Gogg> check for lumps to verify dender
12:42 <Samsuhn> (in elven) "Where are the other traps?"
12:47 <Gogg> *gender
13:11 <Avatar> ("Let me go and I'll tell you.")
13:19 <Samsuhn> ("Tell us and we might let you go.")
13:25 <Avatar> she's tight lipped
14:31 <Harold> "how about you show us and once our friends are over we'll let you go"
14:44 <Avatar> "Swear?"
14:54 <Harold> "we swears, we swears on the precious"
15:10 <Avatar> ("Swear?")
15:24 <Avatar> ("There are no other traps.")
15:26 <Harold> ("yes we promise")
15:27 <Gogg> "pinky swear!"
15:50 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+0 sense motive @Avatar
15:58 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 sense motive @Avatar
16:03 <Harold> !throw 1d20-2 sense @Avatar
16:23 <Gogg> no
17:03 <Harold> "well it seems like she is telling the truth, come across gogg and sam"
17:04 <Gogg> but I can still make my brows furrowed
17:24 <Gogg> yeah
17:57 <Gogg> let me swing!
18:08 <Gogg> ok
18:37 * Gogg walks across the bridge
18:41 <Gogg> defensively
18:48 <Avatar> nothing happens
18:51 <Gogg> total def all the way
18:52 <Avatar> Gogg passes the set trap
18:54 <Samsuhn> I'll walk over using total defence
18:55 <Avatar> unset trap*
19:10 <Gogg> "heigh ho, heigh ho"
19:13 <Avatar> ("Let me go.")
19:14 <Samsuhn> we'll take her weapons
19:20 <Samsuhn> ("Are you hunting lycanthropes?")
19:53 <Avatar> ("Free me and I'll answer your questions."
20:07 <Samsuhn> ("I'm sure you can appreciate that we can't free you until we can be relatively certain that you won't be harming us again.")
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20:13 <Samsuhn> ("You did just fire several arrows at our faces.")
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20:23 <Avatar> ("You swore you would free me if I told you. Return the favour.")
20:34 <Samsuhn> ("I didn't swear anything. And I'm not saying we won't be setting you free.")
20:39 <Samsuhn> ("Also, no one swore as to when.")
20:51 <Horace^Myrthit> Sorry I'm late. I just got back in town
20:52 <Avatar> she looks at Horace, expecting his answer
21:11 <Avatar> your character is stabbing himself in the face
21:18 * Avatar removes voice from Harold
21:21 Avatar gives voice to Horace^Myrthit
21:22 Harold is now known as Thelen
22:03 <Avatar> are you ready to play horace
22:07 <Horace^Myrthit> Yes
22:12 <Avatar> change your nick
22:12 <Horace^Myrthit> Yes, I'm here
22:15 <Horace^Myrthit> I do need a sec
22:22 <Horace^Myrthit> I did?
22:23 <Horace^Myrthit> lol
22:32 <Horace^Myrthit> Is she aware that I burned someone with grease?
22:39 Horace^Myrthit is now known as Harold
22:51 <Avatar> you don't know
22:54 <Samsuhn> ("If you're hunting lycanthropes, we've been told that these beast creatures aren't afflicted by lycanthropy.")
23:18 <Harold> "You're going on assumptions. I'm going to need more than that if you expect me to make good on this.
23:19 <Harold> :
23:27 <Thelen> ("We'll set you free as promised but only after you answer my friends questions")
23:33 <Avatar> ("I'll say no more.")
23:43 <Samsuhn> ("Then we will set you free on our way back.")
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23:58 <Samsuhn> ("If you're lucky, we wont' die horribly so you won't starve to death. If you're lucky.")
24:03 <Avatar> Samsuhn: roll diplomacy
24:17 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2 diplomacy
24:17 <diebot> Samsuhn, diplomacy: [1d20=18] 20
24:27 <Harold> my cha is very low
24:29 <Thelen> !throw 1d20-2 assist
24:30 <diebot> Thelen, assist: [1d20=16] 14
24:37 <Derau> "What are you guys saying?"
24:57 <Derau> Oh, I should probably roll my channel
26:01 <Avatar> ("I'm a bounty hunter. The forest is replete with lycanthropes."
26:17 <Derau> !throw 1d6 Channel heal
26:17 <diebot> Derau, Channel heal: [1d6=5] 5
26:18 <Thelen> ("did someone hire you to trap us?")
26:26 <Thelen> !throw 1d20-2 wis
26:27 <diebot> Thelen, wis: [1d20=11] 9
26:27 <Derau> !throw 1d20+5 Wisdom check
26:28 <diebot> Derau, Wisdom check: [1d20=15] 20
26:34 <Samsuhn> ("These aren't lycanthropes. And in future I'd suggest you make sure that what you're hunting is actually what you are seeking, and not just random adventurers.")
26:36 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20 wisdom
26:37 <diebot> Samsuhn, wisdom: [1d20=16] 16
26:47 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 wisdom
26:48 <diebot> Gogg, wisdom: [1d20=13] 11
27:02 <Harold> !throw 1d20-2 WIS
27:03 <diebot> Harold, WIS: [1d20=1] -1
27:06 <Harold> lol
27:32 <Avatar> she doesn't respond
27:37 <Harold> IP for CA?
27:42 <Avatar> 124.148.166.248
27:50 <Harold> ty
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28:17 <Samsuhn> ("Anyway, we'll let you go, but you aren't getting your weapons back. Seek the Pathfinder Lodge in <city> for compensation.")
28:37 <Avatar> ("Thank you.")
28:43 <Samsuhn> I'll untie her, after she's been disarmed
29:41 <Avatar> she's untied
29:47 <Avatar> and walks off
29:50 <Gogg> "we will not totally disarm you. You shall keep your arms."
29:50 <Harold> Wait, we got no response from did someone hire you to trap us?
29:57 <Harold> And we let her go?
30:28 <Derau> "Hang on...why hasn't she grown claws and stuff?"
30:29 <Harold> so they were bounty hunters in the abandoned city?
30:38 <Harold> Can't I get a quick update?
30:42 <Gogg> "both arms - left and right"
30:51 <Derau> She's already gone, hasn't she?
31:06 <Harold> oh
31:07 <Avatar> "I'm a druid."
31:35 <Harold> "Are you a druid, or are you a bounty hunter?"
31:43 <Harold> Knowledge Arcana?
31:49 <Harold> yes
31:51 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 knowledge nature
31:51 <diebot> Samsuhn, knowledge nature: [1d20=1] 8
32:00 <Harold> !roll 1d20+9 K:Arcana
32:08 <Harold> !throw 1d20+9 K:Arcana
32:08 <diebot> Harold, K:Arcana: [1d20=2] 11
32:13 <Harold> oh
32:16 <Avatar> you don't understand 
32:17 <Harold> !throw 1d20+9 K:Nature
32:18 <diebot> Harold, K:Nature: [1d20=16] 25
32:30 <Samsuhn> "Do you have any spell that can heal us?"
32:35 <Samsuhn> "Goodberries, perhaps?"
33:01 <Avatar> "You've taken all I have."
33:33 <Gogg> Yeah
33:42 <Harold> a pun
33:42 <Gogg> "Goodberries"
33:52 <Samsuhn> "But you're not affected by the ritual."
33:56 <Samsuhn> "Did you cast something to be immune?"
34:02 <Harold> anything from my Knowledge Nature roll?
34:02 <Samsuhn> "Or is it because of your ability to turn into a beast?"
34:07 <Gogg> "you have yummy goodberries?"
34:08 <Avatar> "No. I am at one with the forest."
34:41 <Harold> Sorry, I'll get a mic, I swear, and then I can say it to you with my voice
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35:09 <Harold> assume what you like
35:17 <Nightmare> sorry about that
35:21 <Nightmare> no more disruptions
35:27 * Harold widdles a stick.
35:40 <Samsuhn> okay
35:41 <Samsuhn> we'll continue on
35:47 <Harold> "She's most likely unaffected because of how close she is to nature."
36:19 <Harold> "and I suspect that if she were bathed in pure moonlight, she'd become a tiger moth."
36:27 <Harold> "That's mostly conjecture, however."
36:36 <Harold> um
37:42 * Nightmare looks her up and down: "What do you know of this ritual?"
38:24 <Avatar> "What ritual."
38:28 <Harold> Did I get hurt at all when I wasn't here?
38:33 <Thelen> no
38:35 <Avatar> no
38:37 <Harold> Did I use any spells?
38:40 <Thelen> no
38:46 <Avatar> no
38:52 <Avatar> Ballig swapped out your message spell for acid splash
38:53 <Harold> Did I make any ancillary promises?
39:09 <Nightmare> "Hmmm... What were your plans for us."
39:18 <Harold> Oh, so we rested?
39:28 <Avatar> yeah you rested after killing those 3 guys earlier
39:29 <Nightmare> "I'd like to offer my apologies with regards to your crocodile - if it was yours."
39:30 <Harold> Thank you for filling in for me, Thelen, and Ballig, I do really appreciate it
39:54 <Avatar> "Apologies mean little. I'm leaving now."
40:04 <Nightmare> is she still tied up?
40:19 <Avatar> no, she's gone now
40:26 <Avatar> and you proceed onwards
40:37 <Avatar> you arrive at Briar Henge in the late afternoon on the second day
40:43 <Avatar> Briar Henge is a bristling fortress. The compound is roughly circular and approximately 100 feet across. The walls are made of tangled thorn bushes twelve feet high, although the compound does not appear to have a roof. The only break in the prickly wall is a gap five feet wide and eight feet high. Hanging ivy covers this doorway and blocks the view of the interior of the compound. 
41:06 <Samsuhn> I'll be second-last
41:31 <Gogg> I'll go 1st total def all the way (I'm paranoid)
42:05 <Derau> I'm third
42:34 <Harold> Jealous?
42:46 <Harold> Avatar, I PM'd you
43:00 <Gogg> me too
44:01 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 engineering
44:02 <diebot> Samsuhn, engineering: [1d20=2] 9
44:04 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 nature
44:05 <diebot> Samsuhn, nature: [1d20=9] 16
44:06 <Harold> !throw 1d20+9 K:Nature
44:07 <diebot> Harold, K:Nature: [1d20=19] 28
44:45 <Nightmare> cell size 20, offset -4 horizontal, -3 vertical
45:15 <Gogg> "I'm hungry."
45:25 <Samsuhn> "We'll find some goodberries for you."
45:39 <Gogg> I'll try to search for goodberries once inside.
45:43 <Nightmare> what's the ground like?
45:55 <Avatar> can I ask why you want to ask that
46:03 <Nightmare> yes
46:04 <Samsuhn> "These walls shouldn't hold by themselves."
46:19 <Nightmare> because I want to see how conducive it is to /Entangle/
46:23 <Harold> "Magic is a many splendored thing."
46:36 <Samsuhn> brb
46:55 <Harold> lol, someone just breathed into the mic and should have said, "Bring me Harry Potter."
47:23 <Avatar> it's grass
47:46 <Derau> Creepy question is creepy
48:03 <Nightmare> cell size 20, offset -4 horizontal, -3 vertical
48:10 <Derau> @see
48:11 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=10] 16
48:17 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception
48:17 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=11] 14
48:20 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception
48:20 <diebot> Gogg, perception: [1d20=9] 7
48:31 <Harold> !throw 1d20-3 perception
48:32 <diebot> Harold, perception: [1d20=19] 16
48:45 <Avatar> mekkis can you make a perception check
48:56 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1
48:57 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+1: [1d20=4] 5
49:17 <Avatar> everyone except Nightmare hears Gogg say to Samsuhn
49:23 <Avatar> "Samsuhn, can you help me get goodberries for Lady?"
49:42 <Avatar> whisper*
50:00 <Samsuhn> I raise my eyebrows, "I do not know who you speak of, good sir."
50:08 <Samsuhn> "Now go check out that door."
50:15 <Harold> lol
50:24 <Gogg> "right-o"
50:30 <Derau> "Do we really want to? If this ritual is so important to them, won't they be protecting it?"
50:34 * Gogg wink wink
51:08 <Harold> I need to check my mission from my secret faction.
51:09 <Nightmare> "I say we go in and improvise"
51:58 <Samsuhn> I'm going to use my mage armour scroll on myself
52:17 <Samsuhn> 16 after mage armour
52:33 <Nightmare> cast mage armour
52:41 <Gogg> I'll go in total def
53:30 <Samsuhn> Nightmare-first
54:22 <Harold> "That sounds like a brilliant plan. Can I use the latrine before we get started? So rarely are there opportunities to make water once inside a temple complex."
54:51 <Derau> I'll use one of the scrolls of CLW on myself
55:01 <Derau> YEah
55:20 <Harold> I'm role playing, lol
55:26 <Harold> that's why I called it a latrine
55:29 <Avatar> roll it
55:31 <Derau> !throw 1d8+1 Scroll of CLW
55:32 <diebot> Derau, Scroll of CLW: [1d8=3] 4
55:48 <Harold> what cl is a scroll?
55:52 <Harold> it adds to the d8
56:03 <Harold> what's the minimum level that you must be to crafte a scroll of clw?
56:09 <Derau> 1
56:12 <Derau> That's the +1
56:18 <Samsuhn> can't create scrolls in PFS
56:20 <Harold> oh, lol, I missed it
56:28 <Harold> Im used to pots, they are +3
56:36 <Derau> Really?
56:54 <Harold> min caster level for making a potion of clw is 3
57:00 <Derau> Huh.
57:09 <Harold> "Anyway, I'm going to head into the bushes here. Can you wait a moment?
57:10 <Harold> "\
57:36 <Derau> He has to piss
57:45 <Derau> And maybe faction mission
57:51 <Harold> losers
57:57 * Harold does pee pee dance
58:18 * Harold see consent, he heads east to the bushes
59:57 <Derau> I reload my crossbow
02:35 <Harold> #2
03:15 <Nightmare> I'll cast guidance
03:18 * Harold stumbles out of the woods, adjusting his clothing.
03:19 <Nightmare> I'll go up to the dog and attempt to calm it
03:29 <Harold> "Whew, so sorry. I really needed to relieve myself."
03:35 <Avatar> everyone roll initiative
03:39 <Harold> "Okay, now, onto those druids and their ritual business."
03:39 <Derau> @init
03:40 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=1] 3
03:42 <Derau> T.T
03:44 <Gogg> @init
03:44 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20-1: [1d20=19] 18
03:57 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 init
03:58 <diebot> Samsuhn, init: [1d20=3] 6
03:59 <Harold> !thorw 1d20+3 Harold Initiative
04:07 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Harold Initiative
04:07 <diebot> Harold, Harold Initiative: [1d20=7] 10
04:12 <Harold> I'm a lefty, leave me be
04:14 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+11 handle animal
04:14 <diebot> Nightmare, handle animal: [1d20=13] 24
04:17 <Derau> No excuse
04:21 <Nightmare> @init
04:22 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=3] 5
04:22 <Harold> ?
04:29 <Harold> I've never heard of a lh keyboard
04:35 <Derau> Me neither
04:38 <Derau> He probably made it up.
04:40 <Harold> I'm a touch typist and my left hand sometimes gets excited
05:02 <Derau> Any of you seen my left handed screwdriver?
05:11 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
06:25 <Avatar> the dog doesn't seem to respond
06:55 <Nightmare> what is it doing?
07:24 <Nightmare> ready an action to attack the dog as it charges me
08:03 <Derau> Yet more confusion created by Avatar skimming
08:46 <Harold> You can use diplomacy to improve the attitude of an animal? I thought that was just druids.
08:56 <Avatar> as you approach, you also notice a diminutive fey next to it
09:09 <Derau> Aw crap
09:27 <Gogg> tinkerbell?!?
09:52 <Nightmare> <Nightmare> ready an action to attack the dog as it charges me
10:07 <Gogg> do I have a surprise round?
10:26 <Derau> Roll what?
10:35 <Derau> @init
10:35 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=20] 22
10:38 <Derau> T.T
10:56 <Avatar> the fey turns invisible
11:13 <Harold> Ok, not to be a jerk, but I'm certain that Diplomancy cannot be used to improve the attitude of an animal, except maybe with speak to animals like a gnome
11:21 <Avatar> and asks the hound to attack you
11:27 <Derau> A gnome isn't an animal.
11:32 <Harold> lol
11:34 <Derau> What initiative order?
11:35 <Harold> since when?
11:42 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
11:47 <Harold> Oh!
11:52 <Harold> der do der
12:43 <Gogg> there's no surprise round?
13:01 <Avatar> Nightmare had the surprise 
13:17 <Avatar> what are you doing
13:24 <Gogg> 5ft step
13:45 <Gogg> yes
13:47 <Gogg> then move
14:04 <Gogg> can I move beside Nightmare?
14:12 <Gogg> M6
14:17 <Avatar> standard action remains
14:26 <Gogg> no stay there
14:28 <Gogg> total def
14:43 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
15:04 <Harold> No pants, lol
15:06 <Harold> wizard
15:23 <Harold> Ok, um, 15 south, draw crossbow
15:40 <Harold> wait
15:51 <Harold> I didn' realize where I was
15:59 <Harold> put me behind D and to the east 5 ft
16:17 <Harold> No, N
16:23 <Harold> sorry, behind N and to the east 5 ft
16:37 <Harold> O5
17:07 <Harold> O5
17:15 <Avatar> standard action remains
17:19 <Harold> ok
17:24 <Gogg> starting to look like a mighty duck flying v formation
17:24 <Harold> shoot dog?
17:28 <Avatar> roll it
17:47 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage
17:47 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow: [1d20=11] 14; Damage: [1d8=5] 5
17:54 <Avatar> hits
17:57 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
18:22 <Harold> so for christmas, Aussies dont have Buckeyes, do they?
18:33 <Derau> Buckeyes/
18:34 <Derau> ?
18:35 <Derau> wtf?
18:36 <Avatar> no christmas talk at my table
18:38 <Samsuhn> I cast resistance on myself and move 20 feet southwest
18:41 <Avatar> christmas is banned
18:43 <Gogg> what's a buckeye?
18:50 <Harold> um... peanut butter balls dipped in chocolate
18:56 <Derau> Nope
18:56 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
19:00 <Harold> with a small circle left undipped so it looks like a buckeye
19:08 <Derau> Barely any peanut butter over in Australia at all
19:12 <Nightmare> what's the dog doing?
19:20 <Harold> wow
19:22 <Avatar> being angry
19:32 <Avatar> it hasn't taken its turn yet
19:37 <Harold> that makes me sad
19:41 <Nightmare> move to M10 and ready to attack
19:45 <Harold> I eat peanut butter by the spoon
19:53 <Harold> oh
19:59 <Harold> I have an awesome recipe for you, then
20:06 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
20:15 <Derau> 20ft N and shoot the dog
20:18 <Harold> if by disgusting you mean yummy
20:27 <Harold> vegemite
20:34 <Harold> I've been waiting for that to be brought up on its own
20:35 <Derau> It is brilliant
20:43 <Harold> only took a week
20:44 <Derau> S rather
20:46 <Derau> Damn
20:50 <Harold> how stereotypical are you going to get?
20:53 <Avatar> roll to hit
20:54 <Derau> @ranged
20:54 <diebot> Derau, Crossbow: [1d20=13] 14; Damage: [1d8=1] 1
21:00 <Harold> are you all fidgeting with your boomerangs right now?
21:01 <Avatar> it's somewhat wounded
21:12 <Derau> I actually have a boomerang
21:13 <Avatar> the dog charges Nightmare
21:16 <Gogg> one word for peanut butter - aflatoxin
21:20 <Avatar> Nightmare, roll your hit
21:30 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
21:30 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=18] 23
21:34 <Avatar> hit
21:37 <Avatar> roll damage
21:38 <Nightmare> !throw 2d8+6
21:38 <diebot> Nightmare, 2d8+6: [2d8=6,4] 16
22:37 <Harold> "Show yourself!"
23:01 <Harold> Theres a quasit in PF CH 1
23:10 <Harold> that's a damn little bitch, that is
23:46 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 arcana
23:46 <diebot> Samsuhn, arcana: [1d20=15] 22
23:49 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 nature
23:49 <diebot> Samsuhn, nature: [1d20=12] 19
24:09 <Samsuhn> "It's an Atomie."
24:29 <Harold> Ah tom E A
24:40 <Avatar> Harold: roll a fort save
24:46 <Harold>  /weep
25:31 <Harold> !throw 1d20+5 Fort
25:31 <diebot> Harold, Fort: [1d20=12] 17
25:57 <Nightmare> There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium,
25:57 <Nightmare>  And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium,
25:57 <Nightmare>  And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium,
25:57 <Nightmare>  And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium,
26:06 <Derau> Oh god
26:20 <Harold> lol, yay, periodic table of elements song
26:26 <Harold> that's so sexy
26:38 <Derau> Brb. grabbing male to male 3.5mm jack
26:43 <Nightmare> Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium,
26:43 <Nightmare>  And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium,
26:43 <Nightmare>  And gold and protactinium and indium and gallium,
26:48 <Avatar> Harold starts to shrink, but shakes himself out of it
26:54 <Harold> yeah, you gram that m2m jack
26:56 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
27:10 <Harold> 3.5 mm seems a little small, though
27:30 <Harold> "She tried to shrink me!"
28:06 <Harold> "I got better."
28:08 <Gogg> hmmm
28:16 <Gogg> run to the door
28:16 <Nightmare> "Shrink you?"
28:35 <Harold> "It's a magical term."
28:42 <Avatar> you can see her 15ft right above Harold, in the air
28:57 <Avatar> hovering
29:11 <Harold> Do I perception check to notice her?
29:11 <Gogg> wait
29:17 <Gogg> no
29:19 <Avatar> you all notice her
29:21 <Gogg> no
29:30 <Harold> oh, she's right above me head.
29:33 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
30:12 <Harold> Um, I just want to chat.
30:14 <Samsuhn> "If we can hit her, she won't take much to go down."
30:34 <Harold> Im considering, its lousy
30:45 <Harold> oh
31:00 <Harold> Acid splash straight up?
31:07 <Derau> Good idea
31:12 <Derau> Have you got magic missile?
31:48 <Harold> "Listen to me! Little one, we do not have any qualm with you. I warn you, we are formidable, and this will not end well if you resist us. I beg you to stand down."
31:56 <Harold> no magic missle
32:04 <Harold> missile*
32:24 <Harold> so, they reply once, and not again until next round?
32:39 <Harold> do I get to roll the diplomacy check, or decidedly not?
32:50 <Avatar> "I think I can beat you at this little game!"
32:51 <Harold> Ok.
32:52 Gogg has quit (EOF from client)
33:00 <Derau> That's my USB hub
33:16 <Derau> Every time I plug something in it goes off
33:25 <Harold> I'll shoot that mouthy bitch.
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33:39 <Harold> Crossbow
33:46 <Avatar> roll it
33:56 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage
33:56 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow: [1d20=16] 19; Damage: [1d8=7] 7
34:06 <Avatar> hit
34:12 <Harold> "I think not!"
34:21 <Harold> or, "Expeliarmus!"
34:22 <Avatar> "Okay! Okay! You win!"
34:26 <Avatar> she surrenders
34:37 <Samsuhn> I say in Sylvan, "What are you doing here?"
34:37 <Harold> "Come to me."
35:04 <Avatar> "Please, please, leave me be and I won't play with you anymore! EVER!"
35:19 <Samsuhn> "Are you associated with the druids inside this place?"
35:20 <Avatar> she is smiling
35:22 <Samsuhn> "Do you have any Goodberries?"
35:22 <Derau> "Hand over the gold then we'll talk"
35:31 <Harold> um, sense motive check
35:49 <Harold> "Come to me, dear one. I wish only to speak with you."
35:51 <Harold> ok, holf on
36:01 <Harold> No, I'm easing her
36:08 <Harold> this is role playing
36:15 <Harold> you tend to roll play
36:27 <Harold> "you" generally
36:45 <Avatar> "I'm not with anyone but me and my beautiful dog! Which you killed."
36:52 <Avatar> "I'd like to go now!"
36:56 <Avatar> she remains smiling
37:12 <Avatar> she begins flying away
37:20 <Harold> !throw 1d20-3 Sense Motive @Avatar
37:21 <Nightmare> great
37:21 <Derau> Nope
37:38 * Nightmare walks under the vines
37:46 <Avatar> she leaves north
37:47 <Derau> Yay daisy chaining USB hubs
37:48 <Samsuhn> I follow
38:00 <Gogg> can we try to figure out why she's smiling?
38:14 <Gogg> ok
38:25 <Derau> Several USB chargers, two USB mice, two flash drives
38:41 <Samsuhn> can you voice Gogg
38:48 Avatar gives voice to Gogg
38:56 <Nightmare> has anyone here pleased The Pallid Plague?
39:02 <Nightmare> played*
39:08 <Nightmare> (with their current character)
39:10 <Gogg> I'm curious
39:14 <Derau> Because one my brother has screwed up and one he hasn't
39:18 <Gogg> what does "voice" do?
39:18 <Nightmare> Automatically succeed on a charisa-based check
39:28 <Nightmare> any charisma-based check
39:30 <Derau> brb grabbing chronicle sheet
39:43 <Samsuhn> Gogg: just puts a + by your name
39:52 <Gogg> ah ok
40:01 <Nightmare> east
40:31 <Derau> Yeah I've got that boon
40:45 <Derau> Yeah
40:47 <Derau> Just the once
40:50 <Harold> Perception check at the crossroads?
41:01 <Harold> Listen for ambush
41:11 <Harold> !throw 1d20-3 perception @Avatar
41:35 <Nightmare> south
41:37 <Derau> @see
41:37 <Harold> !throw 1d20-3 perception
41:37 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=18] 24
41:37 <diebot> Harold, perception: [1d20=19] 16
41:41 <Harold> oj
41:49 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1
41:50 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+1: [1d20=5] 6
42:19 <Harold> you confused me
42:35 <Harold> I made a secret one, and then I thought you were saying, "Just make it in channel if you want the roll".
42:57 <Derau> "Something's going on inside"
43:04 <Harold> "Really? I don't think so."
43:16 <Gogg> "errr....the ritual?"
43:23 <Derau> "We'd better hurry up"
43:31 * Harold stares blankly ahead, "I notice nothing."
43:53 <Gogg> "yeah, it's getting late and me hungry fr goodberries"
43:56 <Harold> Nice
44:38 <Nightmare> what's on that table?
45:23 * Gogg tries to search for goodberries from where he stands
45:46 <Avatar> This open space is roughly oblong, with three gaps in the 
45:46 <Avatar> thorny walls to the south, west, and north. To the east is a 
45:47 <Avatar> rough wooden table with a leather satchel lying atop it. The 
45:47 <Avatar> table is surrounded by six cut logs planed flat and turned 
45:47 <Avatar> endwise to serve as stools. Two stiff linen banners hang on 
45:47 <Avatar> stands placed along northwest and southwest walls, carefully 
45:47 <Avatar> placed a few inches away from the thorns to prevent tearing.
45:57 <Nightmare> oh, and there's a black dragon on the table
46:01 <Nightmare> roll initiative, right?
47:01 <Nightmare> sure
47:08 <Nightmare> continue into the doo,
47:10 <Nightmare> say P24
47:32 <Nightmare> room
48:28 <Gogg> gesundheit
48:29 <Harold> Echo so obnoxious
48:35 <Harold> if your mic and speakers are both on
48:38 <Harold> turn your speakers down
48:41 <Harold> whoever it is
48:42 <Gogg> I'm hearing everyone in echo
49:00 <Harold> Mekkis. Your thing is around the box again.
49:07 <Harold> And I've had enough.
49:24 <Avatar> you see a tiny fey
49:26 <Avatar> roll initiative
49:32 <Derau> @init
49:32 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=7] 9
49:34 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 init
49:35 <diebot> Samsuhn, init: [1d20=16] 19
49:37 <Nightmare> @init
49:37 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=17] 19
49:41 <Gogg> @init
49:41 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20-1: [1d20=15] 14
49:42 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 nature
49:42 <diebot> Samsuhn, nature: [1d20=15] 22
49:42 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Init
49:43 <diebot> Harold, Init: [1d20=9] 12
49:59 <Nightmare> is it flying?
50:22 <Nightmare> (now's time to (ab)use your Pallid Plague boon)
50:40 <Nightmare> "Hi, we're all gods. Worship us." (bluff)
51:49 <Samsuhn> "This is a weakened Twigjack. It can move through the brambles without effort and it will try and stab you in the kidney."
52:12 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
52:14 <Harold> "But my kidneys are smallish and of no value to anyone."
52:57 <Samsuhn> I say in Sylvan "We are here to rid the Henge of the corrupting nature of the Druid ritual, please help us."
53:02 <Samsuhn> and cast resistance on myself
54:02 <Avatar> ("I have no desire to stop any corruption!")
54:07 <Avatar> ("To the death!")
54:11 <Harold> lol
54:19 <Samsuhn> I say in Common "There will be no reasoning with this one."
54:23 <Gogg> "kill"
54:25 <Samsuhn> and step back 10 feet
54:26 <Samsuhn> behind Harold
54:30 <Harold> lol
54:40 <Avatar> standard action remains
54:47 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
55:13 * Harold looks at Samsuhn as he passes. "You need to learn to be more assertive with them. They respect confidence."
55:34 <Harold> Doesn't matter
55:50 <Nightmare> move to R25 and attempt to grapple it
57:04 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5 grapple
57:05 <diebot> Nightmare, grapple: [1d20=4] 9
57:17 <Avatar> you fail to grapple it
57:20 <Nightmare> ok
57:22 <Nightmare> end turn
57:46 <Avatar> the twigjack draws its spear, attacking Nightmare
57:53 <Nightmare> fun fun
58:01 * Nightmare looks at it disapprovingly
58:08 <Avatar> scratch that
58:17 * Nightmare looks at it more disapprovingly
58:17 <Avatar> the twigjack erupts with splinters
58:22 <Nightmare> AoO?
59:26 <Nightmare> fun
59:41 <Derau> gg
00:25 <Gogg> what's goin' on
01:50 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5 reflex
01:51 <diebot> Nightmare, reflex: [1d20=14] 19
02:24 <Derau> Grid size is wrong, too!
02:41 Gogg has quit (Connection closed)
03:01 <Avatar> !throw 4d6
03:02 <diebot> Avatar, 4d6: [4d6=2,3,6,1] 12
03:04 <Avatar> take 6 damage
03:12 <Nightmare> except that I have evasion!
03:14 Gogg ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
03:29 <Gogg> got dc
03:47 <Avatar> lucky
03:53 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
03:58 <Gogg> kill
04:06 <Gogg> @melee
04:07 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe: [1d20=20] 26; Damage: [1d12=8] 15
04:07 <Samsuhn> 35/35
04:20 <Gogg> @melee
04:20 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe: [1d20=12] 18; Damage: [1d12=9] 16
04:25 <Harold> mine are Over9000/9000
04:26 <Derau> Lost the mic
04:34 <Derau> I can do the phone thing again if you want
04:45 <Avatar> parts of the twigjack land all over the walls
05:17 <Gogg> @melee
05:17 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe: [1d20=10] 16; Damage: [1d12=4] 11
05:39 <Derau> Format and reinstall.
05:49 <Gogg> 42 damage -- sweet
05:58 <Derau> Format and reinstall.
06:16 <Harold> dont ask
06:20 <Harold> its a nasty story
06:23 <Derau> obviously
06:46 <Harold> hold on, my baby needs let into the garden, brb
07:54 <Gogg> I search room for goodberries
08:21 <Nightmare> I'll look at the stuff on the tables
08:23 <Derau> Might be worth building a calculator of some kind
08:25 <Nightmare> for books and stuff
08:39 <Derau> Grid size to CA cell size and offset
09:02 <Samsuhn> I'll inspect a banner
09:05 <Derau> Could I have my faction mission again?
09:05 <Samsuhn> what knowledge do I need to use
10:25 <Harold> I do
10:54 <Harold> !throw 1d20+9 Linguistics
10:55 <diebot> Harold, Linguistics: [1d20=5] 14
11:07 <Harold> can use mine as aid? +2
11:11 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 linguistics
11:12 <diebot> Samsuhn, linguistics: [1d20=10] 13
11:14 <Harold> I'll aid him
11:38 <Harold> sorry, I wasnt fast enough
13:38 <Avatar> This is the druids’ main meeting area. The leather satchel contains a wax tablet with a crude map of this area of the Verduran Forest. The map is marked with overlapping circles radiating outward from Briar Henge in no discernible pattern. The logging camp and Wispil are both clearly indicated on the map. Various unintelligible symbols also dot the map, but there is no 
13:39 <Avatar> key on the tablet to indicate what the symbols mean.The two tapestries are coarse linen saturated with beeswax and then dried to render the linen waterproof. The banner between the north exit and the west exit contains a skillfully painted image. The left side of the picture depicts several dejected humans crowded by buildings (mills, inns, houses, and similar structures). On the right side, as 
13:39 <Avatar> though stepping out from the claustrophobic alleys on the left, are several bestial humanoids, standing tall and proud in an open meadow surrounded by blooming vegetation. This painting has been “improved” by a twigjack, who has scrawled a trio of cavorting stick-figure twigjacks in the background of the meadow.
13:42 <Derau> Avatar PM
14:23 <Avatar> The banner between the west exit and the south exit depicts a complicated lunar calendar. The calendar is covered with symbols that depict phases throughout the lunar year. You correctly match the banner’s symbols to the symbols on the wax tablet map. Together, the two pieces present a specific timeline for the ritual’s effect. In the first few weeks, the ritual expands slowly out from Briar 
14:23 <Avatar> Henge. In the last few weeks, it expands to encompass nearby logging communities (including the lumber camp the PCs passed through on their way to Briar Henge). In the final day, the ritual is powerful enough to affect residents 
14:23 <Avatar> of Wispil. 
14:42 <Derau> Yep
14:56 <Harold> "These three cavorting twigjacks obviously represent their religious trinity."
15:04 <Harold> My faction is also undisclosed
15:20 <Nightmare> My faction (Cheliax) remains a secret
15:50 <Derau> Only one mission, Avatar?
15:58 <Avatar> yes
16:01 <Avatar> this is a season 3 scenario
16:04 <Nightmare> east again!
16:06 <Derau> So?
16:08 <Avatar> your second prestige point comes from stopping the ritual
16:17 <Avatar> ie. succeeding in the main mission
16:24 <Derau> Oh
16:25 <Derau> ok
16:31 <Nightmare> hmmm
16:45 <Nightmare> I'll spend 18 seconds scanning the room with detect magic
16:53 <Nightmare> then head eastward
16:56 <Avatar> nothing in the room is magic
16:59 <Nightmare> and cast guidance on myself
17:22 <Nightmare> (I'll continue to cast guidance on a minutely basis
17:24 <Nightmare> )
18:08 <Samsuhn> I'll do that with resistance !
18:40 <Gogg> goodberries!
18:40 <Harold> I just realized, you guys use that antiquated measuring system that would render my recipe difficult for you to use.
18:55 <Avatar> This long, wide area is partially roofed by a sheet of woven bark. Under the bark sheet rest several casks, boxes, and simple pieces of furniture. Gourds dangle from the thorny walls as though hung on hooks. Three breaks in the bramble walls lead west, south, and east.
18:58 <Nightmare> you mean we use metric?
19:15 <Harold> Okay, how many grams in 2 cups peanut butter?
19:26 <Nightmare> what's the density of the peanut butter?
19:30 <Harold> lol
19:31 <Derau> Ha
19:34 <Derau> Trust Mekkis
19:38 <Nightmare> detecvt amgic!
19:39 <Derau> About 600 IIRC
19:41 <Nightmare> detect magic the room
19:44 <Samsuhn> searching the room
20:18 <Derau> A gourd is a cup, pretty much
20:19 <Avatar> no magic
20:22 <Nightmare> search the room
20:29 <Samsuhn> I'm searching the room, especially for goodberries
20:30 <Gogg> search for goodberies
21:01 <Derau> I'll aid whoever is rolling perception
21:01 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception (primary)
21:01 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception (primary): [1d20=8] 11
21:05 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+2 perception
21:06 <diebot> Nightmare, perception: [1d20=7] 9
21:07 <Derau> @see
21:07 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=20] 26
21:08 <Gogg> aid samsuhn
21:12 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception
21:13 <diebot> Gogg, perception: [1d20=3] 1
21:20 <Gogg> hah
21:45 <Avatar> you don't find anything
21:59 * Harold stares blankly ahead, his eyes glazed over. "I perceive nothing."
22:03 <Nightmare> yep
22:07 <Nightmare> guidance on derau
22:09 <Samsuhn> go Derau, go Derau
22:09 <Derau> @see
22:09 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=6] 12
22:13 <Derau> :D
22:15 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 aid
22:15 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception
22:15 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=10] 13
22:15 <diebot> Nightmare, aid: [1d20=15] 16
22:20 <Derau> plus guidance
22:31 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception aid
22:32 <diebot> Gogg, perception aid: [1d20=1] -1
22:45 <Harold> !throw 1d20-3 Perc
22:45 <diebot> Harold, Perc: [1d20=3] 0
22:58 <Avatar> you look further, but you still don't find anything
23:03 <Harold> hmm
23:03 <Nightmare> ok then
23:04 <Nightmare> south
23:09 <Derau> @see
23:09 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=8] 14
23:13 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception
23:13 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=13] 16
23:14 <Harold> ah so
23:14 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 aid
23:15 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception aid
23:15 <diebot> Nightmare, aid: [1d20=1] 2
23:15 <diebot> Gogg, perception aid: [1d20=19] 17
23:22 <Harold> !throw 1d20-2 Perception
23:22 <diebot> Harold, Perception: [1d20=2] 0
23:23 <Derau> Screw it we take 10
23:39 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 aid
23:40 <diebot> Nightmare, aid: [1d20=8] 9
23:42 <Gogg> we can take 10
23:53 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception aid
23:53 <diebot> Gogg, perception aid: [1d20=16] 14
23:56 <Nightmare> Derau, take 11!
23:58 <Avatar> while searching through the stored goods, Gogg finds a large leaf folded around a dozen goodberries
24:06 <Harold> lol
24:20 <Gogg> is it green?
24:27 <Gogg> yay!
24:30 <Nightmare> head south
24:30 <Harold> these are orange, and are only called goodberries
24:34 <Gogg> "huzzah!"
24:56 <Gogg> woot woot
25:58 <Harold> I need to bio
26:05 <Harold> me, not my toon
26:06 <Avatar> This wide area on the east side of Briar Henge has a roughly 
26:06 <Avatar> circular shape. Four tall, thin spires of ancient stone thrust up 
26:07 <Avatar> from the ground at irregular intervals like malformed teeth. To 
26:07 <Avatar> the west, two thicker stones are capped with a third horizontal 
26:07 <Avatar> stone, forming a crude gateway. A thick piece of charred bark 
26:07 <Avatar> is suspended in this gateway by a web of crackling energy. 
26:07 <Avatar> The crackling energy pulses outward from the bark into the 
26:07 <Avatar> dolmen stones, and from there into the ground. 
27:04 <Derau> I cast Bless
27:09 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception
27:09 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=6] 9
27:12 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception
27:12 <diebot> Gogg, perception: [1d20=16] 14
27:14 <Derau> @see
27:14 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=4] 10
27:40 <Derau> Yeah
27:49 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+2
27:50 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=20] 22
27:59 <Nightmare> recast guidance as well
28:08 <Gogg> sweet
28:15 * Nightmare casts message on the party too
28:31 Avatar gives voice to Gogg
28:50 <Derau> Every ally gets +1 on attack and fear saves
29:01 <Derau> (Because of Bless)
29:37 <Nightmare> yay
29:47 <Nightmare> head into the room
30:14 <Derau> Try glass
30:18 <Derau> It will float on glass!
30:24 <Harold> back
30:26 <Harold> sorrty
31:07 <Derau> Yeah
31:14 <Derau> I didn't spend nearly enough money
31:28 * Harold cast mage armor
31:36 * Harold ... on himself
31:49 <Nightmare> @init
31:49 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=13] 15
31:53 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 init
31:53 <diebot> Samsuhn, init: [1d20=1] 4
32:09 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 initiative
32:09 <Derau> @init
32:09 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=11] 13
32:10 <diebot> Harold, initiative: [1d20=11] 14
32:13 <Gogg> @init
32:14 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20-1: [1d20=11] 10
32:47 <Derau> Ha
32:50 <Harold> they count as both elves and humans for anything that would relate, including elvesbane arrows
33:01 <Harold> lol
33:10 <Nightmare> and favoured enemy (Human)
33:19 <Harold> "Halfbreed Bastards" sounds funny in aussiespeak
33:20 <Nightmare> Mytiazair got burned by that
33:27 <Derau> Am I still the only person with any damage done to them?
33:32 <Harold> lol
33:35 <Derau> Ameri-speak
33:36 <Derau> Yeah
33:41 <Derau> Not fully though
33:48 <Harold> its even funnier when folks from the UK and Oz talk in american
33:52 <Harold> lmao
34:00 <Derau> SOPA-promoting idiots
34:11 <Harold> I can do standard british, cockney, irish, and some scottish
34:18 <Harold> I cant do aussie, yet.
34:27 <Harold> But I wish you'd please take Mel back.
34:38 <Derau> Who needs improved initiative?
34:52 <Harold> I dont know what you're saying, its too thick, but please send that person in exchange for Mel.
35:18 <Derau> He wants you to take SOPA back
35:34 <Harold> What are you saying? All I heard was "Down under down under, vegemite vegemite, dingo."
35:58 <Nightmare> spellcraft?
35:58 <Avatar> moves up to Nightmare and swings
36:02 <Nightmare> AoO?
37:06 <Nightmare> ok then
37:07 <Harold> I like that his circle is bigger
37:28 <Nightmare> what weapons, if any?
37:33 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
37:34 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=10] 13
37:41 <Nightmare> what weapon?
37:58 <Harold> its a cabre
38:38 <Derau> Are they all gonna do this?
38:51 <Harold> he impales himself on brambles and dies
38:53 <Nightmare> AoO!
39:13 <Derau> Yes
39:14 <Derau> do it
39:16 <Nightmare> attempt to trip
39:20 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+6 trip
39:20 <diebot> Nightmare, trip: [1d20=19] 25
39:48 <Avatar> #3 is tripped
39:54 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
39:56 <Nightmare> fun
40:08 <Nightmare> CHOMP number 3
40:11 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+4
40:11 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+4: [1d20=10] 14
40:23 <Nightmare> !throw 1d6+3
40:24 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d6+3: [1d6=4] 7
40:30 <Nightmare> stab #3 too
40:44 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
40:45 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=2] 7
41:14 <Derau> Bles
41:25 <Avatar> roll damage
41:26 <Derau> Guidance?
41:30 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3
41:31 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d8+3: [1d8=6] 9
41:36 <Nightmare> then 5' south
41:46 <Harold> also, guidance has to be announced before the roll
41:56 <Nightmare> SW actually
41:58 <Nightmare> end turn
42:45 <Avatar> #2 enlarges
43:23 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
43:33 <Harold> um
43:36 <Gogg> enlarge me instead
44:24 <Harold> Moving to one square taskbar-wise of N.
44:42 <Harold> right
44:56 <Derau> Yeah you can
45:08 <Derau> DO it!
45:27 <Harold> will they both be affected by a 10ft square like that?
45:42 <Harold> ok, grease it up
45:55 <Harold> yes, perfect
46:04 <Avatar> #2 and #4 drop 
46:26 <Harold> did they maybe fall on 1 since theyre all giant?
47:04 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
47:14 <Harold> lol
47:23 <Harold> you also gave me shit about toughness
47:36 <Harold> and it stopped me from dieing the first time I was attacked
47:41 <Derau> Move to 1N of Nightmare, drawing waraxe on the way
47:51 <Avatar> standard action remains
47:56 <Derau> 1 still here?
48:14 <Derau> Bloody CA unsyncin
48:18 <Harold> Grease is incredibly useful. 
48:21 <Derau> I whack 4
48:47 <Derau> !throw 1d20-1 Attack
48:48 <diebot> Derau, Attack: [1d20=11] 10
48:52 <Avatar> roll damage
49:06 <Derau> !throw 1d10+1 Damage
49:07 <diebot> Derau, Damage: [1d10=8] 9
49:16 <Gogg> I'll use bite and claw attacks
49:28 <Derau> No +1 on damage for Bless
49:42 <Harold> to hit and ac?
49:51 <Gogg> Then I'll use greataxe first then
50:16 <Harold> lol, dungeons of dredmor 
50:23 <Gogg> r32
50:54 <Gogg> @melee
50:54 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe: [1d20=2] 8; Damage: [1d12=6] 13
51:21 <Gogg> end turn
51:50 <Avatar> the last druid enlarges
52:14 <Nightmare> LoLoLoL!
52:25 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
53:44 <Samsuhn> I'll move to U33
53:47 <Samsuhn> and cast Daze on #2
54:37 <Avatar> he appears dazed for a moment, but shakes it off
54:46 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
54:51 <Nightmare> hmmm
55:19 <Nightmare> move to M33
55:26 <Harold> druids have decent will saves though, don't they?
55:33 <Nightmare> sw1
55:55 <Avatar> standard action remains
56:07 <Nightmare> then stab 2 in spinal column
56:24 <Avatar> roll it
56:25 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
56:26 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=13] 18
56:36 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3
56:37 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d8+3: [1d8=5] 8
56:38 <Harold> omg, I can't count the number of times that my character has been tripped
56:53 <Harold> my DM puts trip on every quadraped almost
57:02 <Harold> wolves, mountain lion, yeth hounds
57:04 <Harold> yes
57:46 <Avatar> he tries to get up
57:47 <Avatar> AoO
57:50 <Nightmare> @longspear
57:55 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
57:55 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=13] 18
57:59 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3
57:59 <Avatar> hit
57:59 <Harold> well, you get up, and then a reflex save to move. if you fail, I think you fall prone, if you succeed, half speed?
58:00 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d8+3: [1d8=5] 8
58:04 <Avatar> he falls to the ground
58:04 <Avatar> dying
58:21 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
58:29 <Nightmare> "Sorry about that, Druid-san"
58:36 <Harold> P33
58:58 <Harold> is he holding a weapon?
59:09 <Avatar> shillelah
59:41 <Harold> grease the shillelah
59:55 <Harold> yep
00:06 <Harold> I'm showing you one of the other many uses
00:12 <Harold> this could lead to him surrendering
00:27 <Harold> um, +5 int
00:29 <Harold> so, 16
00:34 <Avatar> he drops the weapon
00:40 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
00:43 <Harold> "Surrender"
00:45 <Derau> What were we sent here to do again?
00:57 <Derau> Can I reach the bark?
01:04 <Avatar> "Leave this place and I'll surrender!"
01:11 <Harold> "You die!"
01:31 <Gogg> "You die to die!"
01:31 <Derau> I mean height-wise
01:41 <Derau> If I were standing below it, could I reach it
01:48 <Derau> I go and grab it then
01:57 <Nightmare> "Reverse the ritual first."
02:10 <Avatar> menhirs
02:11 <Derau> Menhirs?
03:29 <Derau> Shit son
03:48 <Derau> Can I grab the bark or not?
04:07 <Derau> !throw 1d1 connection?
04:07 <diebot> Derau, connection?: [1d1=1] 1
04:33 <Derau> Alright
04:42 <Harold> Spellcraft?
04:55 <Derau> I switch to my crossbow and shoot #1 then
05:01 <Gogg> kill
05:04 <Avatar> roll to hit
05:05 <Derau> @ranged
05:05 <diebot> Derau, Crossbow: [1d20=14] 15; Damage: [1d8=7] 7
05:09 <Derau> 16 to-hit
05:15 <Derau> (Bless)
05:31 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
05:36 <Gogg> Charge!
05:44 <Nightmare> !findchar gogg
05:44 <diebot> Nightmare, Character: gogg, number: ( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char= )
05:48 <Nightmare> !findchar Gogg
05:49 <diebot> Nightmare, Character: Gogg, number: 325( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=325 )
06:36 <Gogg> I can't reach him without being greased?
07:05 <Gogg> "Harry, drop your spell."
07:13 <Harold> Can I out of turn?
07:19 <Harold> right
07:19 <Gogg> that's a free action right?
07:44 <Derau> He's been training at the Pathfinder place for a while
08:04 * Harold turns and whistles, hands in his pocket, secretly concentrating harder on maintaining the greasiness of the grease.
08:07 <Derau> To gain the approval of the spells he'd need to know at least some things about spells (That they can be dropped, for example) before they would let him out
08:14 <Derau> Only for the classes section
08:48 <Harold> what?
08:51 <Harold> a standard action?
08:53 <Harold> that's shitty
09:21 <Harold> hmm
09:32 <Harold> I just can't imagine a whole standard action to dismiss
09:44 <Gogg> I tiptoe carefully towards #1 and then savagely attack!
09:45 <Harold> can he climb over the bodies?
10:18 <Gogg> hmmmmm...
10:22 <Gogg> total def
10:29 <Gogg> :)
10:42 Sachiru has quit (Quit: Shutting Down )
10:45 <Harold> one check, double movement
10:50 <Harold> he wouldnt be out of the greese
11:06 <Gogg> total def
11:22 <Gogg> ok
11:36 <Avatar> the druid 5ft steps 
11:40 <Harold> sorry, I think more tactically with left over grease puddles
11:42 <Avatar> attacking Harold
11:57 <Harold> he dropped it
11:59 <Nightmare> AoO due to unarmed strike?
12:02 <Harold> scumming fuck
12:36 <Harold> its greasy
12:59 <Avatar> he attempts to pick up his weapon
13:05 <Avatar> successfully
13:45 <Harold> once a round
13:58 <Avatar> he drops the weapon
13:59 <Harold> or, per action?
14:10 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
14:17 <Samsuhn> I cast Daze on the druid
14:39 <Harold> "I have defeated you. Yield and release the ritual, and you may yet live.
14:40 <Avatar> he appears dazed, and then not
14:41 <Harold> "
14:49 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
15:15 <Nightmare> "Would you kindly stop the ritual, or must I stab and bite you first?"
15:19 <Avatar> the druid clearly has no interest in yielding
15:23 <Nightmare> ok
15:30 <Nightmare> I follow through with my threat
15:41 <Harold> wait, this whole time youre on the dog?
15:46 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+6 stab
15:46 <Harold> like in the labrynth?
15:47 <diebot> Nightmare, stab: [1d20=12] 18
16:11 <Avatar> hit
16:13 <Avatar> roll damage
16:19 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3
16:19 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d8+3: [1d8=4] 7
16:25 <Harold> I thought you were the gnome on a dog
16:31 <Nightmare> then 5' NW
16:36 <Nightmare> NE
16:44 <Harold> what? you merged with a nightmare?
16:45 <Nightmare> and bite
16:49 <Avatar> it falls, dying
16:51 <Nightmare> ok
16:55 <Nightmare> then search the body
17:03 <Derau> Do we want to stabilise him?
17:13 <Harold> "Yes. Save his life."
17:26 <Derau> I move over and stablise him
17:28 <Avatar> the waves of energy emanating from Atavistic Splinter flash, weakining
17:28 <Harold> "Information is so hard to come by these days."
17:30 <Avatar> weakening*
18:01 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 nature
18:01 <diebot> Samsuhn, nature: [1d20=4] 11
18:06 <Harold> "Cut the throats of the others, if you see fit, but we should consider keeping one alive."
18:21 * Harold turns to examine the ritual
18:32 <Derau> I tie this one up then kill all the others
18:49 <Derau> Nope, no problem at all
19:11 <Harold> !throw 1d20+9 K Nature
19:11 <diebot> Harold, K Nature: [1d20=14] 23
19:31 <Avatar> the other 3 die, the last one you tried to kill is still alive
19:48 <Derau> I channel
20:21 <Derau> !throw 1d6 Channel
20:22 <diebot> Derau, Channel: [1d6=4] 4
20:37 <Derau> Everyone heals 4, including our (un)friendly prisoner
20:38 <Avatar> Samsuhn, Gogg and Nightmare begin to return to their normal forms
20:48 <Harold> I'm TN, though that may be too much. Harold Poitier has a secret vengeance to exact upon a certain bad wizard who killed his parents.
21:07 <Samsuhn> "We need to get this bark."
21:09 <Samsuhn> "Any ideas, Harry?"
21:25 <Harold> "Um, well the item must be removed. I
21:39 <Harold> would suggest quickly. Should be easy and without an issue. Go ahead."
21:48 * Nightmare looks at the wizards, "Any of you got /mage hand/"
21:54 <Derau> "Gogg, you do the honours"
22:00 <Samsuhn> "Derau? Do you want the pleasure?"
22:10 <Harold> "Just get it, there's no problem. Like taking a fish in a barrel."
22:10 <Gogg> "nope"
22:18 <Samsuhn> I'll bond-item mage hand the bark
22:25 <Samsuhn> after casting resistance on myself
22:28 <Avatar> the spell fails
22:34 <Gogg> "I have something precious here to protect."
22:35 <Samsuhn> I'll cast resistance on Derau
22:41 * Nightmare moves over to take the bark
22:41 <Samsuhn> or Nightmare
22:42 <Samsuhn> if he's going for it
23:00 <Avatar> roll reflex
23:02 <Harold> "What is the problem? Minor tickling, that's it. Someone just get the thing before it's too late."
23:06 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+7 (using guidance)
23:06 <diebot> Nightmare, (using guidance): [1d20=11] 18
23:22 <Avatar> you evade the electrical damage that comes with removing the Atavistic Splinter
23:27 <Nightmare> "see? easy"
23:37 <Harold> "Exactly, and well done."
23:37 <Nightmare> "What's all the fuss?
23:46 <Nightmare> 'me heads towards the east exit
23:51 * Gogg claps. roar of applause
23:56 <Nightmare> west exit*
23:56 <Samsuhn> I'll follow
24:02 <Derau> I guess
24:06 <Harold> Um, did we search the bodies?
24:08 <Derau> Waraxe at the ready
24:24 <Gogg> enlarged shit?
24:24 <Harold> What size is the area that we are in?
24:37 <Samsuhn> I'll take a potion of CLW
24:57 <Gogg> me too
24:58 <Harold> right. Are they still giant?
25:13 <Harold> ok
25:15 <Derau> I don't take a pot of CLW, because I have it already
25:21 <Derau> So I think everyone else has one?
25:54 <Harold> What do we do with the inventory?
26:04 <Derau> I have it on my spell list, and I've got those scrolls
26:05 <Harold> And did you say there were scrolls?
26:13 <Derau> Three scrolls left
26:48 <Gogg> bark skin me too
26:49 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+10 UMD barkskin scroll
26:50 <diebot> Nightmare, UMD barkskin scroll: [1d20=9] 19
26:58 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+10 UMD barkskin scroll
26:58 <diebot> Nightmare, UMD barkskin scroll: [1d20=11] 21
27:06 <Harold> I can't put it in the spellbook, its not on my list
27:10 <Derau> You can't, I think
27:55 <Avatar> This long, wide area is partially roofed by a sheet of woven bark. Under the bark sheet rest several casks, boxes, and simple pieces of furniture. Gourds dangle from the thorny walls as though hung on hooks. Three breaks in the bramble walls lead west, south, and east.
27:58 <Harold> Well, I thought Derau could use them without rolling?
28:35 <Harold> ah so
28:38 <Avatar> Six hammocks hang suspended from the thorns here, crisscrossing along the thorny walls. Two oaks provide shade and shelter from wind and rain. A few clothes hang from the thorny walls. The hammocks and clothes seem simply made. Near one of the tree trunks is a large, sturdy chest. Near the other is a smaller chest, whose open lid reveals several scrolls and tomes. Gaps in the walls allow exit to 
28:38 <Avatar> the northwest, north, and northeast.
28:39 <Harold> and its lvl2, btw
28:46 <Gogg> bark skin me too
28:53 <Gogg> or is there just one?
29:01 <Harold> thrs 4
29:10 <Derau> If there are no mobs here I check out the scrolls
29:13 <Avatar> you don't see anyone/anything in the room
29:37 <Nightmare> check out scrolls and stuff
29:47 <Harold> I do
29:54 <Avatar> they're in a language none of you understand
30:13 <Harold> !throw 1d20+9 Linguistics
30:13 <diebot> Harold, Linguistics: [1d20=3] 12
30:15 <Derau> It's a trap !
30:28 <Gogg> "this is sleepy room"
30:40 <Nightmare> I'll take all the books
30:41 <Avatar> you can't make it out
30:53 <Derau> I do then
31:08 <Harold> nice
31:21 <Harold> take 10
31:24 <Harold> thats 19
31:29 <Avatar> This area serves as the living quarters of the Briar 
31:30 <Avatar> Henge druids. The books and scrolls are almanacs, star-
31:30 <Avatar> charts,  and  philosophical  treatises,  mostly  written  in 
31:30 <Avatar> druidic
31:47 <Harold> Oooooh, druidic
31:52 <Nightmare> I'll take them all
31:56 <Harold> Could I use them to learn the language?
32:09 <Derau> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dddAi8FF3F4
32:19 <Nightmare> I'll take the chest
32:25 <Samsuhn> I'm casting resistance on everyone
32:28 <Harold> you cant using writings? that's weird
32:43 * Harold knocks on the chest.
32:48 * Harold ... with his fist
32:49 <Harold> lol
33:09 <Harold> how heavy is the chest?
33:13 <Harold> can't it be broken open?
33:36 <Harold> well, we also have a captive
33:52 <Gogg> search them for keys
33:59 <Derau> I'm done
34:00 <Avatar> the bad guys have no keys
34:06 <Harold> no, no faction mission for me ;)   ;)
34:11 <Derau> That was the mushrooms, remember?
34:18 <Harold> thats what she said
34:23 <Derau> I planted them near the stream
34:29 <Gogg> search room for keys
34:43 <Derau> Yeah, I did
34:50 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 perception
34:50 <diebot> Gogg, perception: [1d20=18] 16
35:02 <Harold> I will
35:02 <Derau> @see
35:02 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=12] 18
35:04 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception
35:04 <diebot> Samsuhn, perception: [1d20=14] 17
35:11 <Avatar> you find a key
35:12 <Harold> !throw 1d20-2 Perception
35:12 <diebot> Harold, Perception: [1d20=17] 15
35:21 <Samsuhn> I cast resistance on Gogg
35:24 <Gogg> try it on chest
35:24 <Samsuhn> "Gogg open chest?"
35:47 <Harold> we found a key for your chest, and I'm going to steal your heart out
35:50 <Samsuhn> I'll cast resistance on Nightmare
35:51 <Samsuhn> and stand back !
35:52 <Avatar> the chest contains a wand
35:54 * Nightmare opens the chest
35:59 <Nightmare> anything else?
36:01 <Avatar> and a patterned leaf
36:02 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+12 spellcraft
36:02 <diebot> Samsuhn, spellcraft: [1d20=11] 23
36:09 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+12 spellcraft
36:09 <diebot> Samsuhn, spellcraft: [1d20=8] 20
36:12 <Nightmare> I'll take the leaf, and the wand, and the books
36:22 <Harold> !roll 1d20+9 spellcraft wand
36:29 <Harold> oh, you rolled
36:37 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+8 spellcraft
36:37 <diebot> Nightmare, spellcraft: [1d20=6] 14
36:43 <Avatar> wand of eagle eye with 12 charges
36:44 <Nightmare> !spell eagle eye
36:56 <Avatar> scroll of grove of respit
36:56 <Avatar> e
37:09 <Avatar> p217 p226 APG
37:18 <Gogg> will these be converted all into gold?
37:24 <Derau> yeah
37:27 <Gogg> sweet
38:44 <Harold> no, he's alive
38:46 <Harold> the rest died
38:59 <Avatar> the loggers at the logging camp greet you as heroes
39:18 <Avatar> thanking you for removing the terrible affliction
40:01 Samsuhn is now known as Ballig
40:09 <Nightmare> "No problem."
40:32 <Harold> Wait, my roommate came in, and I missed that at the end.
40:45 <Gogg> what happened?
40:46 <Avatar> when you get back to VC Brackett accepts the Atavistic Splinter from you and promises you that the Pathfinder Society will put the artifact to good use in the upcoming Ruby Phoenix Tournament in Goka
41:02 <Nightmare> "Are you Sure that's a good idea, Brackett?"
41:28 <Avatar> Andorans get one 2 prestige (saved by Harold and not by Derau, who planted them in the wrong spot)
41:37 <Avatar> Cheliax gets 2 prestige
41:46 <Avatar> and 'the other faction' gets 2 prestige
41:55 <Avatar> that's yours mekkis, for clarity
41:56 <Avatar> did I miss anyone
42:00 <Nightmare> day job roll?
42:05 * Avatar removes voice from Ballig Derau Gogg Harold Nightmare
42:10 <Avatar> yeah roll your day jobs
42:12 <Derau> It said close to Briar Henge, but not close enough that the druids might notice it
42:16 Gogg is now known as Jaggedsoul
42:18 Derau is now known as Brunius
42:18 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+21 diplomacy makes me $$$
42:18 <diebot> Nightmare, diplomacy makes me $$$: [1d20=11] 32
42:20 <Avatar> if you have 1 or more ranks in craft or profession
42:21 <Harold> does that take a skill point in proff?
42:33 <Avatar> Derau: probably a good guess, but a wrong guess
42:34 <Harold> ah, no
42:44 <Avatar> either craft OR profession
43:04 <Jaggedsoul> gtg
43:09 <Nightmare> or diplomacy...
43:16 <Nightmare> (if oyu have a caravan)
43:47 <Jaggedsoul> hey guys
43:49 <Harold> You revealed my faction!
43:54 <Jaggedsoul> gtg
44:04 <Avatar> was it a secret
44:08 <Brunius> Yeah
44:09 <Brunius> It was
44:13 <Harold> For realz.
44:27 <Harold> Oh well.
44:29 <Harold> I'm Andoran.
44:38 <Harold> there goes all the fun mystery.
44:42 <Jaggedsoul> anything I need to know before I go?
44:50 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+10 craft alchemy
44:51 <diebot> Ballig, craft alchemy: [1d20=2] 12
44:53 <Nightmare> Most loyal faction members inside the Society keep their
44:53 <Nightmare> alliances to themselves, sharing information only with
44:53 <Nightmare> other members of their same faction. Some, though,
44:53 <Nightmare> don’t care who knows their loyalty and make it quite
44:53 <Nightmare> clear who they work for and why they’re in the Society.
44:53 <Nightmare> The latter are looked down upon in the Society and are
44:53 <Nightmare> derided as careless and brash.
45:09 <Harold> lol
45:15 <Nightmare> 75gp
45:28 <Nightmare> Samsuhn gets 5gp
45:33 * Harold weeps quietly in the corner of the shower, his clothes burning in a trashcan outside.
45:56 <Jaggedsoul> anything I need to know before I go?
46:14 <Jaggedsoul> really need to go
46:16 <Nightmare> what was the name and number of the scenario?
46:26 <Jaggedsoul> til next
46:30 Jaggedsoul has quit (Quit: )
47:10 <Harold> So, what's the deal with the prestige points, as to, do I record them?
47:30 <Avatar> 3-05, tide of twilight
47:32 Harold is now known as Horace_Myrthit
49:17 <Avatar> Nightmare: change your nick back
52:38 <Mekkis> Avatar, Nightmare's on slow progression
53:43 <Avatar> how does that work
55:45 <Mekkis> give me the numbers in the slow progression column
55:51 <Mekkis> (halve gold and prestige
56:01 <Mekkis> (except for the dayjob)
56:15 <Avatar> 260gp for slow progression
56:18 <Avatar> 521gp normal
56:29 <Avatar> prestige is 1, obviously
56:51 <Mekkis> plus dayjob
56:53 <Mekkis> :)
57:01 <Avatar> yep
01:55 <Avatar> brunius, what's derau's PFS#, it's not on your sheet
08:36 <Brunius> 22870-2
09:14 <Brunius> Level 3!
09:22 <Brunius> Now I have to decide what to level up in
09:25 <Brunius> Cleric or Ranger?
10:55 <Avatar> cleric means new spells
11:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what are you now?
14:20 <Brunius> Cleric
14:56 <Ballig> what do you want to gain from cleric
15:05 <Brunius> Sweet sweet spells
15:13 <Brunius> And next level my channel goes up
15:13 <Ballig> I actually meant ranger
15:15 <Ballig> what do you want from ranger
15:29 <Brunius> Martial weapon proficiency
15:33 <Brunius> And probably a better BAB
15:36 <Ballig> don't you get a feat at this level
15:51 <Ballig> you get +1 BAB for level 3 cleric
15:56 <Ballig> you won't get more than +1 BAB from any other class
16:17 <Brunius> mmm
16:33 <Ballig> if you just want martial weapon proficiency I'd suggest fighter
16:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why not fighter?
16:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> same weapons and a feat
16:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and more hp if I'm not mistaken
17:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because I doubt the combat style will be of use
18:25 <Ballig> ranger isn't necessarily a bad choice, just depends on the reason for it
18:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I think for the current reasons, fighter is better
18:48 <Ballig> I would agree
18:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> cause plate on cleric is good
19:42 <Avatar> it's still a bad idea to use a digital signature on a chronicle sheet isn't it
19:55 <Avatar> it's occurred to me that I could do it now that I have a scanner
19:55 <Ballig> why
19:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> beats no sig
20:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> worse than actual sig
20:07 <Avatar> couldn't you copy and paste it by importing it
20:17 <Avatar> but I guess you could do that anyway couldn't you
20:19 <Ballig> couldn't you do the same thing with a regular hand-written chronicle sheet
20:21 <Ballig> if we're talking avout scanners
20:26 <Ballig> about
20:31 <Avatar> man that's comforting
20:53 <Ballig> people have different opinions on the safety of digital signatures
21:17 <Ballig> I know the old secretary (head guy) of our department used to tell you to delete his digital signature once you had used it, but the original file yuo used it on would still have it
21:27 <Ballig> I've seen people not care, and I've seen others black out a signature block
22:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it all depends on levels of paranoia
22:23 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and how much that sig can get you
23:11 <Avatar> pretty messy
25:45 <Brunius> This is the only thing in the order that JB has cancelled due to no stock: http://www.jbhifionline.com.au/game/pc-games/dawn-of-war-2-complete-collection/632474
25:53 <Brunius> Yet it's still on their website
25:55 <Brunius> Hmmm
26:16 <Brunius> Seems legit.
29:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so Brunius, decided on your level up yet?
29:25 <Brunius> Nope.
30:10 <Avatar> Horace_Myrthit: are you about
30:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what do you want from the next level?
30:51 <Brunius> I will figure it out spaceshot
30:53 <Horace_Myrthit> Yes
30:54 <Brunius> chillax.
30:56 <Horace_Myrthit> I'm here
31:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I just don't want you to pull an avatar and scrap the character
31:28 <Brunius> What?
31:32 <Avatar> like with Cairo
31:34 <Brunius> Why would I scrap the character
31:45 <Avatar> are you still using Kaleb
31:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because you might make bad leveling decisions
32:05 <Brunius> Yeah I'm still using Kaleb
32:14 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2_: you can't replay scenarios more than once, even with a different character
32:21 <Brunius> I figure I'll use him until he dies.
32:25 <Avatar> levelling that character is counter productive
34:01 <Avatar> Gogg levelled up as well
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34:18 <Avatar> ah shit
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35:14 <Brunius> mibbit user
35:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I should probably start looking at making a better character (Zen archer is probably more fun than useful) and play it soon :P
35:24 <Brunius> Upload it to dropbox or something
36:54 <Avatar> we should work out when the next game will be
37:07 <Avatar> tristen is back on wednesday? I think
37:17 <Ballig> I will be going to the gym on wednesday
37:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig you're on leave right?
37:22 <Ballig> from 11am to 2pmish
37:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> leave/hollidays
37:30 <Horace^Myrthit> sexy
37:31 <Avatar> so we'll say thursday
37:37 <Ballig> or wednesday night
37:50 <Avatar> yeah if he's here on wednesday I'll see if he's keen on wed night
37:58 <Avatar> we can play an impromptu game
38:07 <Brunius> I can DM if you want me to
38:30 <Avatar> we're mid way through that game
38:39 <Avatar> depends who shows though
38:40 <Brunius> Oh ok
38:55 <Ballig> I need to prepare a scenario
38:57 <Avatar> have you got a scenario prepped
39:00 <Avatar> Brunius
39:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> are there any full on melee combatants yet?
39:11 <Ballig> I guess I could easily do we be goblins or first steps 1 because you sent me the maps
39:16 <Ballig> and I already know how the scenario goes so reading will be minimal
39:29 <Ballig> thelen and gogg are full-on melee combatants
39:46 <Brunius> Hmm
39:48 <Horace^Myrthit> Hey, Avatar, Whats the xp? 1? Or is that lvl before and after?
39:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what classes?
39:58 <Avatar> you get 1 exp per scenario
40:01 <Avatar> when you hit 3, you level up
40:18 <Avatar> you pretty much get 1 exp just for participating, as long as you don't die 
40:21 <Horace^Myrthit> oh, gotcha
40:33 <Avatar> occasionally even if you die, I think
40:41 <Horace^Myrthit> lol
40:45 <Avatar> if you're using a pregen
41:00 <Avatar> so the pregen dies, but you successfully complete most of it, and your real guy gets 1 exp
41:08 <Avatar> but doesn't get the prestige/fame
42:23 <Brunius> I just asked JB to draw a dinosaur on the box of my parcel
42:32 <Ballig> one more scenario for Samsuhn to level up to 3
42:47 <Brunius> I wonder how that will go down
42:52 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Thu 29th 10am (Avatar, game in progress) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
43:03 <Ballig> what is up with instructions for drawing dinosaurs
43:10 <Ballig> is that a thing now
43:12 <Avatar> Brunius: do you want to aim to run a game tomorrow or wednesday?
43:27 <Brunius> I guess.
43:34 <Avatar> it's up to you man
43:51 <Brunius> I'm not really sure about times
44:08 <Avatar> do you want to not schedule one and wait for an impromptu game
44:44 <Brunius> I dunno, I guess.
46:14 <Brunius> I wonder if I can find something worth 80c on JB's website
47:48 <Ballig> a j umper
47:53 <Ballig> so you don't have to use a screwdriver to turn your computer on
50:10 <Ballig> I take it you won't mind me adjusting these numbers
50:28 <Brunius> I can get there with a soldering iron, Ballig
50:37 <Brunius> Dad has two, so I think I'm fine on that count
50:44 <Ballig> buy some solder
51:13 <Brunius> Two rolls enough?
51:19 <Ballig> is it 40 cents a roll
51:28 <Brunius> Nope.
51:30 <Avatar> first steps 1 is worth 2 prestige isn't it
51:40 <Brunius> I've got two already, Ballig
51:49 <Brunius> It's about $2 a roll IIRC
51:54 <Avatar> Gogg doesn't know how to read his sheets for prestige/fame
51:55 <Brunius> and JB wouldn't sell soldier
52:10 <Ballig> my chronicle sheet has 2 prestige on first steps 1
52:11 <Brunius> solder, even
54:09 <Ballig> finally have 9 fame
55:18 <Brunius> ha
55:30 <Ballig> and ~2286.9 gold
55:35 <Ballig> I bought some scrolls I need to add to this chronicle sheet
55:50 <Avatar> ah shit am I meant to cross out the gold as well
55:55 <Ballig> I think so
55:59 <Ballig> I'll cross it out on mine
56:13 <Ballig> just so you're aware, I'm changing my chronicle sheet number/exp/fame/prestige because there's a scenario that hasn't been reported
56:16 <Ballig> but I have a chronicle sheet for it
56:21 <Brunius> shit can you resend my chronicle sheet Avatar?
56:29 <Avatar> yeah
56:32 <Avatar> I'll correct it before I do
56:53 <Avatar> I think I've lost track of my own DM credit to apply to Buck
57:09 <Ballig> I lost track of the gold, because I applied the wrong tier
58:51 <Brunius> I'm pro and kept track of everything
59:12 <Avatar> I'm a bit worried Buck will take too much DM credit and I won't get to play him properly
59:36 <Ballig> probably
59:37 <Ballig> if you level too high
59:45 <Avatar> he's 1 game away from 4th level 
02:15 <Brunius> So spread your GM credit out
02:38 <Brunius> Limit it to, I dunno, one credit a level
03:29 <Avatar> my character levels are 1,2,3
03:40 <Avatar> ,4
04:04 <Brunius> 1,1,3,4
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04:50 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul's already thirsty for more
05:57 <Jaggedsoul> hehehe
06:04 <Ballig> there we go, I have 9 fame (7 prestige) and 2136.9 gold to spend
06:08 <Avatar> I'm trying to send you your chronicle sheet via skype
06:16 <Jaggedsoul> wait
06:27 <Ballig> I could get two pearls of power
06:34 <Avatar> and not much else
06:40 <Ballig> what else do I need !
06:48 <Avatar> wands
06:53 <Jaggedsoul> lemme login to skype
06:57 <Ballig> I can still only use level 1 spell wands
06:59 <Ballig> which I can buy with prestige
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07:41 <Horace^Myrthit> this is fir the cleric?
08:38 <Horace^Myrthit> mythril breastplate
08:46 <Ballig> nah, wizard
08:53 <Avatar> Horace^Myrthit: it's a common rule that everyone should be able to manage their own healing
09:05 <Avatar> so people spend 2 prestige or 750gp on a wand of CLW
09:12 <Avatar> and hand it to whoever can use it to spend charges on them
09:19 <Jaggedsoul> I have 1 prestige from 1st steps, 1 for WBG and 2 for today's scenario?
09:26 <Ballig> right
09:30 <Ballig> because you didn't eat the goodberries
09:32 <Horace^Myrthit> i see
09:36 <Avatar> isn't it 2 prestige from first steps
09:37 <Ballig> isn't it 2 from first steps
09:46 <Ballig> pretty sure it's 2
09:54 <Jaggedsoul> 5 prestige points - sweet
09:56 <Avatar> I'm 95% sure it is
10:19 <Avatar> maybe I should check since I DM'd it for you
10:46 <Brunius> APG: Worth buying?
10:53 <Avatar> yeah, 2 prestige
11:06 <Avatar> Brunius: only if you really use it
11:10 <Ballig> I think APG is worth it
11:18 <Ballig> at least, it's worth the PDF copy
11:24 <Avatar> as a rule I wouldn't buy a book where I didn't use something in it
11:25 <Brunius> I hate PDFs Ballig
11:35 <Jaggedsoul> what's aPG?
11:35 <Brunius> I can never read them properly
11:36 <Avatar> something which was more than just a single spell or something
11:40 <Ballig> can you read PDFs on a kindle
11:41 <Ballig> probably not
11:41 <Brunius> Advanced Player's Guide
11:42 <Avatar> advanced players guide
11:45 <Brunius> You can on a Kindle
11:48 <Avatar> you can read them, but not well
11:56 <Ballig> at least, not the paizo PDFs
12:01 <Avatar> it's actually better to read on your phone than on your kindle
12:04 <Brunius> Hmm, APG or Inner Sea World Guide?
12:06 <Ballig> is there an SRD version of APG
12:10 <Brunius> On YOUR phone, Avatar
12:11 <Avatar> APG by a longshot
12:17 <Avatar> any android phone can do it
12:18 <Brunius> Yes, but not legal for PFS play Ballig
12:25 <Ballig> says who
12:29 <Ballig> don't you just need it printed out
12:36 <Avatar> Brunius: consider ultimate combat
12:53 <Brunius> Says the additional resources page on the paizo site.
13:16 <Brunius> It says something like the SRD is a handy resource but not legal for Pathfinder Society play
13:28 <Jaggedsoul> avatar: do you have the filled up form for we be goblins?
13:33 <Avatar> not yet
13:35 <Avatar> I'll do that shortly
13:39 <Jaggedsoul> ok
14:01 <Avatar> did you see me say that you've levelled up
14:03 <Ballig> Avatar: sent you my chronicle sheet back in case you want a copy of the updated version
14:38 <Jaggedsoul> yes
14:51 <Avatar> cheers
14:59 <Jaggedsoul> working on that right now :)
15:04 <Avatar> I don't think DMs are obliged to keep copies of their player's sheets
15:08 <Ballig> I forgot all about having that litheria blossom
15:25 <Ballig> probably not, but it has your initials on it so it's a good idea to make sure I didn't add another six million gold
15:43 <Avatar> yeah you probably would
16:25 <Brunius> Probably!
16:37 <Ballig> I could buy a +1 breastplate
16:56 <Jaggedsoul> If we didn't use the item in the scenario, it gets converted to gold?
17:00 <Brunius> Yeah
17:03 <Ballig> it gets converted even if you do use it
17:11 <Brunius> Which is sweet
17:18 <Brunius> What does eagle eye do?
17:21 <Jaggedsoul> btw, where can I check for items I can get using my pa?
17:24 <Ballig> probably +accuracy, at a guess
17:32 <Ballig> you can get any item worth up to 750 gold
17:34 <Ballig> for 2 PA
17:45 <Brunius> It's in the guide to organised play
17:50 <Ballig> but only a single item, so you can't go and buy like 12 potions with 2 PA
17:57 <Brunius> There's a list of possible PA awards
18:05 <Brunius> Ballig: A case of potions?
18:09 <Ballig> where's that other list
18:13 <Ballig> ha, I suggested that
18:21 <Brunius> Pathfinder Society Field Guide
18:22 <Ballig> or one big vat with 12 potions poured in it
18:29 <Ballig> is the field guide free
18:30 <Brunius> That has the same one in the front
18:32 <Brunius> Or others in the back
18:33 <Brunius> Nope
18:34 <Avatar> scoop out cure light wounds solutions
18:37 <Avatar> solution*
18:54 <Brunius> About $20 in stores, $10 from amazon or similiar
18:54 <Ballig> I actually don't mind giving paizo money
19:00 <Ballig> I buy PDFs
19:11 <Brunius> I can't get used to PDFs
19:12 <Ballig> in fact, the biggest reason I don't mind buying from paizo is because I can buy PDFs
19:16 <Brunius> Ha
19:20 <Ballig> if wizard did that I probably would have bought more than the core rulebooks from then
19:23 <Ballig> them
20:45 <Ballig> you know, the field guide is probably the most expensive PDF from them
20:46 <Ballig> surely
21:02 <Brunius> Probably not.
21:12 <Brunius> What about that Tome of Battle they did?
21:18 <Brunius> Did they offer PDFs of that?
21:24 <Brunius> That'd be pretty expensive.
21:38 <Ballig> well the field guide is like $4 more than the core rulebook
21:43 <Brunius> No way.
22:02 <Ballig> what is the tome of battle
22:26 <Brunius> They updated some 3.0 thing for pf and only offered like 5000 copies
22:31 <Ballig> yeah, most paizo PDFs are $10
22:35 <Ballig> the field guide is like $14
23:12 <Ballig> is this field guide worth that
23:31 <Brunius> Absolutely.
23:39 <Jaggedsoul> hmmm...
23:41 <Ballig> oh, apparently I bought the seekers of secrets and cities of golarion PDFs for the same price
23:53 <Avatar> Ballig: are you applying credit for WBG to Samsuhn?
24:05 <Ballig> yeah I am
24:19 <Brunius> Huh.
24:35 <Ballig> WBG will be Samsuhn's 4th chronicle sheet
26:11 <Jaggedsoul> a fame score of 9 gives maximum item cost of 1,500gp
26:17 <Ballig> yeah
26:20 <Jaggedsoul> is it 5-9?
26:23 <Ballig> there are limits to what you can buy
26:25 <Ballig> 5-9?
26:39 <Jaggedsoul> coz 4 or less is 500 gp
26:42 <Ballig> I think with a fame of 5 (which is what you should have) you can buy things that cost up to 500 gold
27:03 <Jaggedsoul> weird
27:05 <Avatar> that's right
27:06 <Ballig> it's like uhm
27:15 <Ballig> your parents are restricting what you can spend your allowance on
27:23 <Ballig> the more they trust you, the more expensive an item they will let you spend it on
27:29 <Ballig> right now your parents won't let you buy something worth more than 500 gold
27:34 <Jaggedsoul> I got that
27:48 <Brunius> Which is like 200 years wages for a normal person
27:51 <Ballig> but you can spend 2 prestige points to get something up to 750 gold for free
28:40 <Avatar> how important is the date on a chronicle sheet
28:44 <Avatar> does anyone remember when we played it
28:56 <Avatar> the paizo site has 'thursday', which I guess is when it was reported
28:56 <Ballig> didn't you already report it
28:57 <Brunius> Yesterday.
29:07 <Ballig> yeah put thursday on it, that's when we finished it
29:12 <Avatar> was it 
29:16 <Ballig> yeah
29:21 <Ballig> remember we were going to do tuesday but jaggedsuol didn't show up
29:23 <Avatar> of course
29:23 <Ballig> so we did thursday night
29:25 <Avatar> yeah
29:40 <Avatar> the jaggedsoul no-show, how could I forget !
29:43 <Ballig> this field guide better be worth it Brunius *shakes fist*
29:55 <Avatar> haven't you seen it
29:59 <Avatar> the field guide is mostly garbage
30:01 <Ballig> why would I have seen it
30:07 <Ballig> Brunius made me spend $14 on it
30:10 <Avatar> I highly recommend you read that one first
30:25 <Ballig> read what one
30:27 <Ballig> I've already bought it
30:40 <Jaggedsoul> rub it in
30:47 <Avatar> to see what's in it
30:47 <Ballig> where were you 2 minutes ago wh en Brunius was making me buy it
30:51 <Brunius> The field guide is awesome Avatar
30:56 <Avatar> doing chronicle sheets
30:59 <Brunius> Have you even read it?
31:02 <Jaggedsoul> it's a miscue remember?
31:04 <Avatar> of course I've read it
31:06 <Brunius> Or did you just skim it
31:13 <Avatar> well I skimmed it
31:15 <Avatar> it's not interesting enough to read
31:16 <Brunius> See?
31:24 <Brunius> First problem, you skimmed it
31:33 <Avatar> first problem, it's shit
31:37 <Avatar> it's not like any other book
31:40 <Brunius> It is brilliant
31:47 <Avatar> which I guess is great if you like that idea
32:05 <Jaggedsoul> lemme read it -- we'll see if it's rubbish
32:14 <Ballig> I don't mind the very brief rundown of the factions on the first page
32:16 <Avatar> let Jaggedsoul be the judge
32:30 <Ballig> the regular PFS guide should have that
32:30 <Brunius> There's a page on each of the factions later on Ballig
32:34 <Ballig> because seriously, I've never read the full rundowns
32:55 <Avatar> wait a sec, inner sea field guide
33:04 <Avatar> ?
33:07 <Brunius> field guide?
33:08 <Brunius> What?
33:13 <Avatar> which book are you talking about
33:28 <Ballig> Pathfinder Society Field Guide
33:46 <Avatar> I think that one is actually superceded by the inner sea world guide
33:59 <Brunius> You're thinking of seekers of secrets
34:05 <Avatar> definitely not seeker of secrets
34:11 <Brunius> The PFS Field Guide is part of the core assumption
34:34 <Ballig> haha
34:38 <Ballig> Have your body recovered by a rescue team
34:39 <Ballig> 5 prestige
35:14 <Brunius> Mekkis used the Caravan vanity from the back of this book to get his diplomacy day job roll
35:18 <Avatar> I can't find what I was looking at
35:37 <Ballig> this book actually does look useful
35:41 <Ballig> especially when we start writing PFS scenarios
35:46 <Avatar> I am thinking of the inner sea world guide, which is garbage
35:57 <Mekkis> how is it garbage
36:02 <Brunius> We should write PFS scenarios as a channel
36:06 <Avatar> I couldn't get anything useful out of it
36:07 <Brunius> Then split the profits
36:07 <Mekkis> you need to learn about the inner sea
36:26 <Avatar> Brunius: my name would have to be first
36:32 <Ballig> why
36:38 <Avatar> that's just how it is
36:41 <Ballig> we should do it in first-name alphabetical order
36:46 <Brunius> So I'm first?
36:49 <Ballig> no I am
36:50 <Avatar> well I'm still first
36:51 <Mekkis> no
36:53 <Mekkis> Balls is
36:56 <Ballig> your name is probably Benjamin
37:00 <Avatar> my name is Anthony
37:00 <Brunius> Yours is?
37:04 <Avatar> sucked in
37:05 <Brunius> Wait, damn
37:07 <Ballig> damn
37:09 <Ballig> I did forget about that
37:11 <Brunius> Avatar is right
37:20 <Ballig> last name reverse alphabetical order
37:20 <Avatar> yeah stalker can confirm that
37:34 <Brunius> I've always thought of you as Tony, Avatar
37:37 <Brunius> Not Anthony
37:40 <Mekkis> what's your last name, Ballig?
37:41 <Avatar> good show
37:46 <Avatar> let's keep it that way as much as possible
37:47 <Ballig> starts with T
37:50 <Brunius> G
37:59 <Brunius> And Avatar is last
38:03 <Brunius> Seems legit.
38:05 <Avatar> you can't change your mind
38:08 <Ballig> yes I can
38:09 <Avatar> I already called dibs, for one
38:09 <Mekkis> sure
38:12 <Mekkis> do it that way
38:16 <Mekkis> just put my name in bold
38:19 <Ballig> Mekkis probably has a last name starting with Z
38:20 <Ballig> ha
38:28 <Avatar> I think they would be strict on their formatting
38:30 <Ballig> actually, I don't want my name on it
38:33 <Ballig> I want to be called Mr X
38:34 <Brunius> Ha
38:46 <Brunius> Just mark it as authored by D&D on IRC
38:53 <Avatar> forget that
38:55 <Avatar> are you serious
38:59 <Brunius> Yes
38:59 <Mekkis> sure
39:04 <Mekkis> my name can be on it
39:05 <Brunius> It will be great publicity
39:05 <Avatar> my name'll be first OK
39:06 <Ballig> haha
39:10 <Mekkis> and you can give me the profits
39:11 <Brunius> It will be great publicity
39:20 <Ballig> why do you get the profits
40:32 <Jaggedsoul> my WBG character sheet has a tick box followed by You be goblin! then there's 3 tick boxes for 1st steps followed by Kayle's blessings
40:37 <Jaggedsoul> what's that for?
40:58 <Mekkis> read it
41:08 <Jaggedsoul> I did
41:20 <Mekkis> read it again
41:21 <Ballig> tick boxes generally indicate a finite-use boon
41:21 <Brunius> Dammit
41:29 <Ballig> you tick a box each time you use it
41:30 <Brunius> 10 pounds shipping from the UK
41:43 <Jaggedsoul> Ballig: what I was about to ask. Thanks
42:08 <Ballig> Avatar: is there a downloadable player for grooveshark
42:20 <Brunius> There isn't, Ballig
42:20 <Ballig> oh hey, my shuffle button works now
42:24 <Brunius> That's the whole point
42:36 <Brunius> It's on the internet, so you can get to it anywhere
42:42 <Brunius> Create an account and save a playlist
42:48 <Brunius> I use it at school and on other computers
42:53 <Ballig> oh, you can't shuffle when radio is on
43:38 <Brunius> If I hadn't bought Dungeons of Dredmor I'd be able to buy the APG
43:44 <Brunius> Thanks a lot, Avatar!
43:50 <Brunius> You too, Spaceshot_tm2_
44:31 <Avatar> grooveshark anywhere accounts are $5/month for the next few days
44:32 <Ballig> https://www.google.com/search?q=do+a+barrel+roll
44:35 <Avatar> instead of $9/month
44:39 <Avatar> that's kind of tempting
45:14 <Brunius> http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&safe=off&site=&q=let+it+snow&oq=let+it+snow&aq=f&aqi=g-z1g1g-z1g1g-z1g5&aql=&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=1292l2356l0l2511l11l7l0l0l0l0l264l640l3.0.2l5l0
45:32 <Brunius> What.
45:35 <Brunius> Isn't it free, Avatar?
46:07 <Ballig> you can download a phone app for $9/month
46:10 <Ballig> seems a bit steep to me
46:45 <Avatar> it lets you use it on a phone
46:59 <Brunius> Oh
47:04 <Brunius> Who wants to use it on a phone?
47:08 <Brunius> That's crap man
47:09 <Avatar> me
47:13 <Avatar> why is that crap
47:15 <Avatar> why am I crap
47:23 <Ballig> for $9/month it's a bit crap
47:25 <Ballig> even $5/month seems steep
47:31 <Brunius> You made me buy Dungeons of Dredmor
47:32 <Ballig> and how long is the $5/month for
47:39 <Brunius> And if I hadn't, I'd be able to get the APG
47:40 <Ballig> like if you sign up are you really just saving $4 because next month it'll cost you 9
47:42 <Avatar> 12 months I think
47:43 <Brunius> But I did, so I can't!
47:51 <Avatar> don't quote me on that one 
47:56 <Avatar> I forgot where I saw that
48:10 <Avatar> that was a concern I had though, I thought is it only for 1 month?
48:29 <Avatar> Brunius: dungeons of dredmor is awesome
48:34 <Brunius> No man
48:35 <Brunius> It's crap
48:39 <Avatar> don't you like it
48:39 <Brunius> and made me miss out on the APG
48:47 <Brunius> Now I can't get the APG
48:54 <Brunius> This makes me vereh :(
48:54 <Avatar> so you do like it secretly
48:56 <Mekkis> Brunius, don't trust Avatar on advise regarding computer games
49:03 <Brunius> I know that now, Mekkis
49:07 <Mekkis> he thinks everything's awesome
49:09 <Avatar> I told him to get eye and he said no
49:14 <Avatar> that cost him 70c
49:18 <Mekkis> just like I think everything's probably crap
49:21 <Avatar> that's about how much you need for the APG
49:39 <Avatar> and actually I got dungeons of dredmor when it was $1.29 
49:41 <Ballig> actually it didn't
49:43 <Ballig> he got EYE for free
49:51 <Avatar> did you get it for him
49:53 <Ballig> yeah
49:57 <Mekkis> (hence, if I recommend a game, it's probably good)
50:04 <Brunius> Heh
50:05 <Avatar> recommend me a game mekkis
50:09 <Ballig> nethack
50:17 <Avatar> something else
50:19 <Mekkis> NWN2 was good
50:28 <Avatar> yeah nwn 2 is pretty good
50:31 <Ballig> I got maybe half way th rough that
50:32 <Brunius> I think my dog has finally figured out what microwave beeping means
50:34 <Ballig> but then lost interest
50:34 <Mekkis> Achron
50:36 <Avatar> what about skyrim?
50:40 <Brunius> Only took about 15 years
50:43 <Mekkis> haven't played it
50:48 <Avatar> oblivion?
50:48 <Ballig> haha your dog is older than you
50:56 <Mekkis> Avatar, want to do some multiplayer NWN2?
51:05 <Avatar> something's wrong with my nwn2
51:07 <Mekkis> perhaps MotB?
51:08 <Brunius> I'm 15, Ballig
51:08 <Avatar> it chops when I move
51:10 <Mekkis> what do you mean?
51:14 <Mekkis> weird
51:14 <Ballig> no you are 13
51:17 <Ballig> and always will be
51:19 <Avatar> everything else is completely smooth, but not walking
51:19 <Brunius> No I am 15
51:21 <Avatar> makes it unplayable
52:21 <Brunius> Have you tried reinstalling?
52:29 <Avatar> no
52:33 <Avatar> haven't tried anything to fix it yet
52:52 <Brunius> You might have to tell it to only use one CPU or something
54:29 <Avatar> I think I did actually google it and couldn't find the specify issue
56:18 <Avatar> so many andorans
56:36 <Ballig> I don't have an andoran character I don't think
57:21 <Avatar> don't make one!
57:27 <Ballig> I think I will
57:31 <Avatar> don't don't
57:51 <Avatar> I'd change my faction if it wasn't so expensive
57:59 <Ballig> thank the gods for undo, I just deleted the wrong chronicle sheet
01:48 <Brunius> Man these headphones are wierd
01:57 <Brunius> All my centre-panned audio is gone
02:24 <Ballig> oh hey, this is the first time I've got a chronicle sheet with an item on it worth more than I could buy with my level of fame
02:28 <Ballig> (at least, first time I've noticed)
02:34 <Ballig> it's a +1 horse bane dogslicer
02:41 <Brunius> Voice in the Void has a couple
02:41 <Mekkis> Avatar, who are you applying the dm cred to?
03:35 <Brunius> Unless I press the button
03:44 <Brunius> Then I get the centre-panned audi
03:49 <Brunius> o
03:50 <Ballig> Mekkis: level 2 wizard (one scenario from level 3), has 2136.9 gold to spend and can buy any items up to 1.5k
03:58 <Ballig> should he get two level 1 pearls of power?
04:09 <Mekkis> I'd probably get one
04:20 <Ballig> maybe one pearl of power and some muleback cords
04:24 <Mekkis> Brunius, what's Derau's PFS number
04:38 <Mekkis> I wouldn't bother with cords
04:49 <Ballig> why's that
04:50 <Brunius> 22870-2
04:54 <Mekkis> get a horse or a donkey or a porter or a bag of holding
05:10 <Brunius> Why?
05:38 <Mekkis> I'm reportinh
05:42 <Avatar> Mekkis: Buck, 22871-4
05:51 <Avatar> Grand Lodge
06:04 <Brunius> IIRC Ballig is 22875?
06:05 <Ballig> 22876-2, Cheliax (if you're reporting First Steps 3)
06:08 <Brunius> Or was it 22876?
07:00 <Mekkis> oh
07:05 <Mekkis> I haven't reported that yet, have I?
07:07 <Avatar> we need a database or a table or something of everyone's character name/faction/PFS#
07:23 <Avatar> bit of a pain doing this after every game
07:36 <Avatar> having it on the character sheet helps
07:48 <Mekkis> some people like not disclosing it
08:23 <Avatar> that's fine, have it there as 'secret'
08:29 <Avatar> for your faction I assume, not PFS#
08:30 <Brunius> Faction or PFS#?
08:38 <Avatar> who wants to keep their PFS# a secret
08:54 <Brunius> Paranoid fucks?
09:34 <Ballig> I'm surprised that Endure Elements didn't get a mention at all in the Environmental Dangers part of the field guide
09:40 <Brunius> Yeah
09:43 <Brunius> Bit odd
10:46 <Avatar> everyone I've DM'd for should have a chronicle sheet now, let me know if you don't
10:55 <Ballig> pretty sure I'm good
11:02 <Avatar> tristen can get his when he's on
11:20 <Mekkis> I don't
13:10 <Avatar> you didn't give me your details
14:47 <Ballig> he's keeping it secret
16:36 <Mekkis> Total for Andoran 	33 		
16:36 <Mekkis> Total for Cheliax 	27 		
16:36 <Mekkis> Total for Grand Lodge 	16 		
16:36 <Mekkis> Total for Lantern Lodge 	3 		
16:36 <Mekkis> Total for Osirion 	11 		
16:36 <Mekkis> Total for Taldor 	28
17:40 <Brunius> I have a Sczarni character
17:56 <Brunius> Planning to make a Silver Crusade one pretty soon
20:33 <Mekkis> yeah
20:41 <Mekkis> but to become a statistic, you need to play it in here
20:49 <Mekkis> any plans for this evening?
21:59 <Brunius> Plans regarding?
22:10 <Mekkis> PFS or similar?
22:18 <Mekkis> nwn2 maybe?
22:24 <Brunius> Don't have nwn2
22:27 <Jaggedsoul> when can I buy and sell my items?
22:35 <Mekkis> between scenarios
23:13 <Jaggedsoul> so I can do that before the next game then?
23:37 <Jaggedsoul> and I can plan ahead and update my char sheet to show just that?
23:49 <Ballig> right
23:56 <Ballig> just remember to mention it to the DM of your next scenario
24:06 <Jaggedsoul> ok
24:09 <Ballig> or mention it to the DM of your last scenario so he can add it to your chronicle sheet
24:19 <Mekkis> or write it on yourself
24:29 <Ballig> (that's what I do)
24:30 <Jaggedsoul> gotcha
26:45 <Ballig> every time I see the word spelunking
26:47 <Ballig> I think it's sexual
26:57 <Brunius> Spelunking potion?
27:11 <Ballig> want to go spelunking together, Brunius?
27:21 <Brunius> Nope.
28:06 <Jaggedsoul> you do go in and out of caves
28:15 <Jaggedsoul> so I see why it's sexual
28:16 <Jaggedsoul> :)
29:02 <Mekkis> Ballig, still want that 6tunnel up?
29:25 <Ballig> it's probably not necessary if you have reason to turn it off
29:50 <Mekkis> if I start needing the terminal again, I'll ^C it
29:57 <Ballig> okay
35:08 <Jaggedsoul> is there a vanity that let's you use your strength modifier instead of your wis for day job checks?
35:22 <Avatar> I would normally say you're dreaming
35:28 <Ballig> haha
35:29 <Avatar> but after seeing you be able to use diplomacy, anything's possible
35:32 <Brunius> You don't necessarily need to use your wis for day job checks
35:36 <Brunius> Check the field guide man
35:57 <Avatar> you'd have to dig up an alternative in a book somewhere Jaggedsoul
36:01 <Brunius> Probably not a straight strength check, but possibly a different skill
36:07 <Avatar> there's none that we'd know of
36:09 <Jaggedsoul> I mean, if I'm a woodcutter, strength can help you get more right? :)
36:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you store copies of players chronicle sheets?
36:18 <Avatar> profession (woodcutter)
36:23 <Avatar> I haven't been
36:31 <Avatar> I do have most of them though
36:39 <Mekkis> Jaggedsoul, not sure
36:54 <Mekkis> you'll need to buy and read the field guide
36:55 <Avatar> why do you ask
36:56 <Jaggedsoul> wishful thinking...oh well
37:31 <Jaggedsoul> ok
38:26 <Avatar> who isn't in the thursday game
38:44 <Avatar> just mekkis and brunius?
47:42 Mort ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
47:49 <Ballig> oh look what the cat dragged in
48:13 <Avatar> Mort is in every night
48:24 <Ballig> just not during games!
51:59 <Jaggedsoul> is the 500gp limit for each item I buy?
52:07 <Mort> oh gawd.
52:10 <Mort> what cat?
52:14 <Mort> I feel hungover
52:16 * Mort groans
52:18 <Ballig> Jaggedsoul: yeah
52:22 <Jaggedsoul> hi Mort
52:23 <Ballig> no single item can be worth more than 500gp
52:30 <Ballig> unless it's listed specifically in the pathfinder society guide
52:34 <Jaggedsoul> i have +5 str
52:36 <Ballig> so for example you CAN buy +1 armour or +1 weapons
52:40 <Ballig> even though they are above your 500gp limit
53:06 * Mort waves at Jaggedsoul
53:11 <Mort> I tell u I have no mood to..
53:13 <Mort> urm do anything
53:37 <Avatar> you can buy it over 500gp if it's on a chronicle sheet
53:45 <Ballig> yeah, and that
54:16 <Avatar> it only just occurred to me a few days ago that magic items on a chronicle sheet are always 2nd level or higher
54:33 <Ballig> what about potions
54:35 <Avatar> I thought there was 1st level stuff on there that was on the always available list anyway
54:39 <Avatar> potions to
54:41 <Avatar> too*
54:53 <Avatar> the rule is anything 1st level is always available 
55:39 <Avatar> all the scrolls and potions are of things like knock, invisibility
55:47 <Mort> sigh
55:50 <Mort> so basically how many games
55:52 <Mort> did u have without me
55:57 <Avatar> about 50 mort
55:58 <Ballig> heaps
56:05 <Ballig> we play games all the time
56:06 <Avatar> you haven't been in for a game for a long long time
56:13 <Jaggedsoul> is a composite longbow priced at a 100gp already allows a bonus of +1 to str?
56:19 <Ballig> no
56:22 <Ballig> that'd be a 0
56:25 <Avatar> HOWEVER I still haven't forgotten about that crazy let's draw him on the sidewalk idea you had
56:41 <Ballig> ha
56:49 <Ballig> with the prostitute?
56:53 <Avatar> yeah
56:57 <Brunius> Ha I remember that!
56:57 <Avatar> do you recognise this man?
57:07 <Avatar> I pictured like a stick figure drawing
57:08 <Ballig> I think she asked the prostitute to draw him
57:15 <Mort> agree
57:15 <Ballig> and the prostitute drew two stick figures having sex
57:18 <Jaggedsoul> dang, that means I can only buy a composite that allows +4 of my str...
57:25 <Mort> oh yeah that one
57:40 <Avatar> the prostitute didn't know who we were talking about I don't think
57:48 <Avatar> we knew who it was but he didn't
57:51 <Ballig> yeah you were trying to find someone by a certain name
57:54 <Ballig> and wanted to know what he looked like
57:55 <Avatar> so we had to describe him
58:05 <Ballig> no you wanted the prostitute to describe him
58:05 <Ballig> :P
58:06 <Avatar> good brainstorming
58:08 <Ballig> I GMed it, I remember
58:22 <Avatar> was that city of strangers 
58:24 <Jaggedsoul> Avatar: can I buy a 600gp composite longbow (+5 str mod)?
58:28 <Ballig> city of strangers 2
58:41 <Ballig> I think mundane weapons are excluded from the limit
58:44 <Avatar> I think so
58:52 <Jaggedsoul> good!
58:53 <Ballig> are you making it masterwork
59:04 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul do you have the PFS guide
59:11 <Jaggedsoul> if allowed, yes
59:16 <Mort> so yes I needed
59:18 <Mort> to go and make him
59:21 <Mort> draw it on the floor
59:23 <Mort> so we coulda rub it out
59:34 <Avatar> I feel like we are giving you fish instead of teaching you how to fish
59:43 <Jaggedsoul> is it the guide to organized play?
59:51 <Avatar> yeah
59:57 <Jaggedsoul> I do
00:00 <Avatar> take a look at p19
01:00 <Avatar> a quick read of that should make this a lot clearer for you
01:28 * Mort fishes
02:42 <Jaggedsoul> I did read it
03:11 <Jaggedsoul> I just want to clarify that vs the fane score and max gp value
03:18 <Jaggedsoul> *fame
05:05 <Avatar> yeah if it's under always available, cost is irrelevant
06:01 <Jaggedsoul> thanks
06:02 <Avatar> always available and chronicle sheet items take precedence over your fame limitation
06:38 <Ballig> it's like 900 gold for a masterwork composite longbow with a +5 rating
07:04 <Avatar> seems like a bargain
07:18 <Ballig> just keep in mind that you still use dexterity for your ranged attacks
07:30 <Ballig> so you'd be attacking with that longbow at a +2 attack bonus, as a level 2 fighter with -1 dex
07:54 <Ballig> the strength only comes into play for damage
08:18 <Avatar> it's probably still not too bad a purchase
08:39 <Avatar> you need some form of ranged attack, and that's the best you'll get I think
09:08 <Avatar> you can buy a garbage bow on the idea that it's a secondary attack anyway
09:30 <Avatar> but 900gp probably isn't a lot to push that up to have a more reasonable chance of hitting when you do need to hit a ranged target
10:04 <Avatar> or have I got it wrong
10:10 <Avatar> the +5 means nothing to attack?
10:18 <Ballig> it means nothing to attack
10:20 <Ballig> it's only damage
11:07 <Ballig> alternatively he can spend 75gp on a regular longbow
11:20 <Ballig> it will do +1 to attack (with his low dex) and the regular 1d8 damage
11:27 <Avatar> yeah better off going with the regular longbow
11:32 <Ballig> or 900gold on a +5 composite masterwork longbow for +2 to attack (with low dex) and 1d8+5 damage
11:42 <Ballig> (I'm inclined to agree with Avatar, Jaggedsoul)
11:48 <Ballig> but it might depend on how much gold you have to work with
11:54 <Avatar> put the extra 825gp into a better melee weapon
12:05 <Avatar> that's almost half way to a +1 bonus
12:05 <Ballig> or better armour if you're really paranoid about your AC
12:30 <Avatar> yeah ditch your scale mail asap
12:36 <Avatar> that AC is very low for a fighter
12:51 <Avatar> you don't have a dex bonus to worry about
12:59 <Ballig> I say you're already taking a speed hit for medium armour
13:01 <Ballig> why not go heavy armour
13:18 <Avatar> I'm guessing you chose scale mail at 1st level because that's all your could afford
13:19 <Ballig> could get masterwork half-plate for less than the longbow
13:25 <Avatar> but it's time to join the big boys
13:29 <Avatar> and girls
13:49 <Ballig> masterwork half plate would increase his AC by 3
13:55 <Ballig> almost as much as he's increasing it by when he does total defence
14:26 <Avatar> I'd never take half-plate
14:33 <Avatar> banded mail or full plate
14:41 <Ballig> why?
14:48 <Ballig> he has no dex bonus to worry about, you said so already
14:58 <Ballig> is 1 ACP worth 1 AC?
15:25 <Avatar> depending on which you like more, -1 ACP or 1 AC, it's better to go either side of it
15:29 <Avatar> for the costs involved
15:34 <Ballig> (having said that, I love full plate - just not the cost)
15:54 <Ballig> 1650gp is a lot
16:07 <Ballig> (includes the masterwork cost, no use spending that much and not making it masterwork)
16:11 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul your character would be pretty damn hardcore in full plate
16:31 <Avatar> might not have enough $
16:59 <Ballig> I am sure he doesn't
17:18 <Ballig> would be a sexy +4 to AC though
17:22 <Avatar> 417gp for first steps, 500gp for we be goblins
17:22 <Ballig> basic AC of 19 instead of 15
17:24 <Avatar> how much was today worth
17:29 <Ballig> 512 I think
17:48 <Avatar> how much of the initial level 1 $ was spent
17:52 <Avatar> from the 150gp
17:53 <Ballig> dunno
18:21 <Avatar> looks like he's bought nothing but his greataxe and scale mail
18:32 <Ballig> haha
18:34 <Avatar> and still needs a second trait
18:44 <Avatar> oh, and some caltrops
18:46 <Ballig> that's 70gp
19:23 <Ballig> it'd still have him under what he'd need
19:30 <Avatar> for 1500?
19:36 <Ballig> he wants 1650
19:44 <Ballig> it's a waste to spend 1500 gold on a full-plate and not make it masterwork
19:45 <Avatar> he doesn't need 1650 immediately
19:50 <Avatar> you can make it masterwork later
19:51 <Ballig> you can't add masterwork to it once you've bought it
19:52 <Ballig> no you can't
20:00 <Avatar> are you sure
20:07 <Ballig> the core rulebook specifically says you can't
20:07 <Ballig> s
20:13 <Ballig> so unless a PFS resource specifically says you can
20:26 <Ballig> I kn ow you can make it /magic/ later
20:29 <Ballig> I don't know that you can make it masterwork
20:48 <Avatar> I will check that up
20:56 <Avatar> I've always thought you could upgrade weap/armor to masterwork
21:12 <Avatar> nope, it's specific
21:13 <Avatar> you're right
21:20 <Avatar> shit
21:39 <Ballig> the society guide does specify you can upgrade a masterwork item to +1 without paying the masterwork cost again
21:46 <Ballig> ah yes, then specifically says you can't do masterwork
22:10 <Ballig> I've had to hold off by a scenario in order to afford masterwork
22:23 <Ballig> what I really wish is that you could upgrade to special materials later
27:44 <Jaggedsoul> I see
27:51 <Avatar> I love that text about how pathfinders who don't care who knows their faction are "derided as careless and brash"
28:01 <Ballig> ha
28:12 <Avatar> I don't think any characters actually revealed their faction today
28:18 <Avatar> despite our talk about who is what faction
28:42 <Ballig> yeah, there's a difference between IC and OOC knowledge of factions
28:52 <Ballig> even when you reveal your faction mission you aren't revealing faction
28:56 <Ballig> except to other members of the same faction
29:01 <Ballig> (and the book already suggests that most people do that anyway)
32:34 <Ballig> I can afford a hand of the mage
32:37 <Ballig> I can afford two of them !
33:18 <Ballig> there really aren't many wondrous items in the core rulebook for <1500
34:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> shitty bag of holding?
34:36 <Avatar> man
34:44 <Avatar> you've obviously not had to deal with enforced encumberance before
34:56 <Avatar> show me your latest character sheet
35:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't usually play with less than 12str
35:05 <Ballig> he's suggesting it as a possible item to buy
35:10 <Avatar> 12 str is hardly anything
35:17 <Ballig> cheapest bag of holding is 2500
35:24 <Avatar> 43lb or less
35:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it is lots when you don't use heavier than light armour or the medium leather one
35:53 <Avatar> a chain shirt is 25lb
36:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and a long sword is 3lbs
36:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so?
36:31 <Avatar> so is that all you usually carry
36:34 <Avatar> a sword and armor
36:40 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no
36:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I rarely use chain shirt :P
37:05 <Avatar> do you ever play spellcasters
37:12 <Jaggedsoul> man, I think I have to hold off, too
37:18 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I usually carry about 5lbs max in 2 pouches and my backpack (which I see as a very stupid adventuring tool)
37:27 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul: it might be worth it, for just one more session
37:29 <Ballig> it would be hard to survive in pathfinder carrying so little
38:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> depends on level
38:08 <Mort> whada mess
38:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and what class you were
38:13 <Avatar> I am the worst offender when it comes to weight, admittedly
38:19 <Mort> I am a packrat
38:22 <Mort> I always carry tons of stuffs
38:28 <Ballig> well in pathfinder society, at least, you are continually doing stuff that requires you to have the right skills and equipment to succeed
38:32 <Ballig> you want to have as much stuff as you can carry
38:42 <Mort> thats why I had to get a horsie :P
38:43 <Mort> :D
38:44 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2_: you'll be dead when a swarm attacks you
38:45 <Mort> I am a whizzie
38:52 * Mort has candles and flour around :D
38:52 <Ballig> yeah, man, our first PFS scenario
38:56 * Mort also has cantrips..
39:02 <Ballig> swarm attacks "shit, how can we hurt it?" "splash weapons" "...we don't have any"
39:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig; not all party members need to carry each item that might be useful all the time
39:04 * Mort doesnt go anywhere wihtout flare
39:12 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2_: yeah they do, in PFS
39:18 <Ballig> say Gogg has the rope
39:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I always carry alchemist fire or the other one (forgot he name)
39:22 <Ballig> what if Gogg doesn't play next scenario
39:25 <Ballig> damn, you don't have any rope
39:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> who doesn't have rope?
39:36 <Jaggedsoul> buy a splint mail, heavy wooden shield and regular longbow
39:39 <Ballig> oh, so rope is something everyone has?
39:39 <Ballig> :p
39:41 <Avatar> you according to your sword and leather armor scenario
39:41 <Ballig> but not other things?
39:57 <Jaggedsoul> and a longsword
40:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> avatar; that wasn't my only items, was just pointing out weights
40:15 <Avatar> yeah well what else
40:17 <Avatar> it adds up
40:26 <Avatar> all my shit only weights 1lb each
40:31 <Avatar> weighs*
40:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> lemme pull up my zen archer
40:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> though it is a bit of a cheat, since it doesn't use armour
41:23 <Mort> I laso odont go around
41:25 <Mort> without my charcoal
41:27 <Mort> and chalk :P
41:31 <Brunius> Kaleb hasn't had much chance to use that collapsible plank
41:34 <Mort> so I can get peeps to draw male prostitutes on teh ground :OP
41:38 <Brunius> He should probably sell it.
41:48 <Brunius> That gets rid of 10lb
42:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=310
42:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's mine
43:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> should probably get another belt pouch for the caltrops, but eh
43:33 <Mort> oh oh
43:42 <Brunius> How much does grappling hook weigh?
43:46 <Brunius> Rope?
44:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> grappling hook is 1-5lbs
44:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> don't remember exactly
44:33 <Brunius> No way a longbow is 3lbs
44:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yup
45:57 <Brunius> Huhg
45:59 <Brunius> It is
46:33 <Brunius> Grappling hook is 4
46:41 <Ballig> I came up with 50.5 lbs
46:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> knew it was in that range
46:43 <Brunius> Rope is 10
46:46 <Ballig> without armour
46:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> for my character?
46:50 <Ballig> yes
46:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how much is a backpack?
46:58 <Brunius> 1lb
46:59 <Ballig> 2
47:03 <Ballig> bedroll is 5
47:08 <Brunius> 2lb!
47:09 <Ballig> pouches are .5 each
47:17 <Ballig> I didn't bother with the quiver
47:27 <Brunius> Rations are 1 each
47:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> don't even have 10ft chain :P
47:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I only have rations because they're in the pack
47:42 <Brunius> Torch is 1
47:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> at least to my knowledge they're in the pack
47:53 <Ballig> (20 arrows is 3lbs, so 9lbs of arrows)
48:01 <Brunius> Mirror is .5
48:06 <Avatar> bedrolls are a fucking waste
48:10 <Brunius> Yeah
48:17 <Brunius> Use the goddamn ground bitch!
48:21 <Ballig> you're fine with that character because you have 16 strength, so light load is up to 76lb
48:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> again, I only have a bunch of shit cause it's in the pack
48:28 <Ballig> but using your 12 strength example, you'd be in a medium load right now
48:29 <Brunius> On Kaleb, light load is about 33
48:31 <Ballig> without wearinga ny armour
48:39 * Mort has no armor
48:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't even like the fucking backpack
48:49 <Brunius> Then get rid of it
48:59 <Avatar> just take your sword man
49:02 <Avatar> then you dont' need a backpack
49:06 <Avatar> and everyone will hate you
49:42 <Mort> :D
49:51 <Brunius> It's all about weight optimisation in PFS
50:19 <Brunius> Someone remind me to sell that collapsible plank
50:22 <Brunius> It's crap anyway
51:12 <Avatar> what does it do
51:19 <Brunius> It's a wider 10ft pole
51:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> btw, do we start with the adventurers pack?
51:31 <Brunius> And it weighs 10lb
51:38 <Brunius> I can jump 10ft. dammit
52:08 <Ballig> well, it's only about weight optimisation because you might get a GM that will audit you and screw you over at the wrong moment for it
52:14 <Avatar> you start with nothing but 150gp
52:15 <Ballig> whereas in regular campaigns you know whether your GM is like that or not before you begin
52:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ahh
52:32 <Avatar> you can't work from that
52:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> then yea, should probably ditch a bunch of shit
52:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> since this character hasn't been played with yet
52:50 <Avatar> you could say you have a +7 to your attacks if nobody checks, when really it's +3
52:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I can stil fuck around with his numbers
52:58 <Avatar> but to do it knowingly is off
53:10 <Brunius> Yeah
53:18 <Brunius> It can and will get you banned from organised play\
53:52 <Ballig> well, like I said, that archer is fine because his strength is 16
53:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> he is fine
54:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but I hate backpacks in general
54:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how the fuck do you fight with a backpack on successfully?
54:20 <Ballig> are you ditching your backpack
54:21 <Avatar> maybe you should get a bag of holding
54:22 <Brunius> With difficulty
54:23 <Ballig> where will you store your stuff
54:31 <Ballig> maybe you spent years practising to fight with a backpack on
54:36 <Ballig> and funnily
54:44 <Avatar> maybe everyone sets down their packs before fights begin
54:47 <Ballig> if you think it's hard to fight with a backpack on, tell Gebannus he can't fight with a stone coffin on his back while he's spider climbing
54:48 <Avatar> but pathfinder abstracts it
54:55 <Avatar> haha
55:04 <Avatar> d&d abstracts that
55:10 <Ballig> ha
55:16 <Ballig> you can't use that as an excuse for everything that makes no sense
55:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the abstracting excuse?
55:30 <Ballig> it abstracts  facing during combat
55:37 <Ballig> but it doesn't abstract being able to fight with a coffin on your back
57:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the 'dnd/pathfinder abstracts it' is a bit of a joke
57:55 <Ballig> it's not, if you understand what abstraction means
58:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know it's let it for the GM/DM to decide
59:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but still
59:39 <Ballig> no it's not
59:45 <Ballig> it's let the modifiers decide
59:50 <Ballig> and the stats in general
00:21 <Ballig> your AC, for example, is a stat which tells you how hard you are to hit in combat - this may be your armour, or it may be how good you are at keeping an eye on who is a danger to you, or it might be your ability to dodge attacks, etc
00:24 <Ballig> it's an "abstraction"
00:31 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mmm
00:36 <Ballig> you don't sit there and say "But he wasn't facing me, so I should have hit him!"
01:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no, in combat I'd understand someone dancing around trying not to be attacked from the rear
01:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but outside combat I don't see the same instance of abstracted FOV
01:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> or facing
01:37 <Ballig> I realise you don't agree with me about FOV/facing outside of combat
01:41 <Ballig> I'm just explaining what abstraction is
02:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I don't know what you're trying to say about FOV/facing outside of combat though
02:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> at least I don't remember from last night
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08:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> either way, abstraction or not, I don't prefer backpacks
08:36 <Ballig> how will you store your equipment
08:41 <Ballig> there is an all-tools vest or something
09:13 <Ballig> oh that's for craft
09:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what are all the characters in the pathfinder book/s using?
09:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> they don't have a backpack, but a shit ton of gear on them
10:39 <Ballig> they have backpacks
10:41 <Ballig> they just don't mention it
10:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no I mean the pictures
11:00 <Brunius> Just because they aren't illustrated with backpacks doesn't mean they don't have backpacks
11:03 <Ballig> Combat Gear none; Other Gear greataxe, scale mail, throwing axe (3), light hammer, 
11:04 <Ballig> backpack, belt pouch, bedroll, flint and steel, hemp rope (50 ft.), trail rations (10), waterskin, 53 
11:04 <Ballig> gp, 9 sp 
11:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> they don't have a backpack, but still have lots of gear
11:07 <Ballig> that's a pregenerated PFS character
11:16 <Ballig> their backpack is with their horses outside
11:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I prefer the illustrations, sure if you want to carry around more lucrative gear then get a backpack
12:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but if you don't want to, then don't, you can place a lot of gear on your clothes/armour
12:46 <Ballig> a GM will screw you over for not having a backpack
12:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how?
13:31 <Ballig> by saying you can't carry all that shit attached to your body
14:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> a smart person would say specifically where everything is
14:51 <Ballig> just because you say specifically where it is doesn't make it feasible
14:55 <Brunius> Yeah, then your GM will go "Wow, huge pockets. I don't buy it"
15:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
15:01 <Ballig> the DM might rule that your speed is severely hampered by having that much crap all around your body
15:17 <Ballig> or that your dex mod is lowered
15:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but carrying a backpack is cool
15:20 <Ballig> because you're so cumbersome
15:35 <Ballig> ever had to carry something that "wasn't heavy, just awkward"?
15:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yes, but that is usually due to it being large
16:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> as in, a 4ft/4ft wargaming board
16:20 <Brunius> Dude
16:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> or a 2ft/4ft board
16:25 <Brunius> Who makes a 4ft board
16:32 <Brunius> Break it down into 2ft sections
16:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> warmachines
16:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> warmahordes uses 4/4
16:49 <Ballig> doesn't have to be large
16:49 <Ballig> it can just be awkward
16:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> rather than 6/4
16:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> such as?
17:00 <Ballig> basically the weight can be at the wrong end
17:03 <Ballig> just one end
17:10 <Brunius> One of the new nerf guns is very back heavy
17:14 <Brunius> very hard to run with
17:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig; again, such as?
18:08 <Ballig> Brunius just gave you an example
18:12 <Ballig> another example is a sledge hammer
18:20 <Ballig> ever had to carry a sledgehammer while stepping inside a tractor tyre?
18:28 <Ballig> (I can give you this example easily as it's something my trainer makes me do at the gym)
19:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ever had to carry a sledgehammer in a backpack?
19:07 <Ballig> put it on your back with straps designed to even the load (just how a backpack is designed, especially an adventurer's backpack) and you're good
19:09 <Ballig> strap it to your left leg?
19:18 <Ballig> you're not going to be as agile
19:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so you're example is something you aren't going to be agile with backpack or no backpack?
20:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I like your examples
20:56 <Ballig> you would be agile with a backpack
21:05 <Ballig> I just told you, strap it to your back with the straps designed to distribute the weight evenly
21:07 <Ballig> and you're fine
21:18 <Ballig> it's heavy, but that's where your strength and carrying capacity comes into it
21:33 <Ballig> but strap it to one side and it doesn't matter how good you are at carrying heavy weights, it's going to have an unbalanced effect on you
21:59 <Brunius> One IRL game I was in (not PFS) the DM tried to tell us this chick had 16 daggers in her hair.
22:22 <Avatar> it could be done
22:23 <Ballig> haha
22:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> kunai maybe
22:29 <Ballig> depends how big the daggers are
22:33 <Ballig> they could be like hairclips
22:40 <Brunius> They were standard daggers
24:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it just comes down to, do you see yourself carrying really awkwardly heavy items often? or at all?
24:28 <Brunius> Like, say, a grappling hook?
24:48 <Brunius> Not heavy, but not the sort of thing you'll be happy to carry around in your pocket.
25:25 <Ballig> I think items could easily add up to become awkwardly heavy, even if single individuals items aren't
25:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd have the grappling hook tied to the end of the rope
25:38 <Ballig> there's a reason people use a backpack
25:43 <Ballig> and you risk GM disapproval if you don't
25:53 <Ballig> (which means it's particularly dangerou sin PFS, where you can have different GMs)
25:57 <Brunius> Yeah
26:06 <Ballig> if it's a specific campaign with the one GM, I'd say talk to him about it and see what he thinks about the matter
26:09 <Ballig> and you might be golden
26:10 <Brunius> It's kinda OK for us, because we play most of the time in the channel
26:25 <Mekkis> Until you meet Matt at a con :)
26:39 <Brunius> And with me, I can talk to Darkwhite and get him to approve it.
26:43 <Brunius> And it's all fine.
26:45 <Mekkis> Until you meet Matt at a con :)
26:58 <Brunius> Killer Matt?
27:09 <Mekkis> (you're not going to get Darkwhite to overrule a Matt-ruling at a con)
27:11 <Mekkis> yep
27:44 <Mekkis> who's here?
27:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if a DM/GM doesn't see you being able to fit items on yourself that aren't of stupid proportions/weight
27:57 <Mekkis> (who'd be willing to play a PFS scenario)
28:06 <Brunius> Me, I guess.
28:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> then I don't see that DM/GM allowing you to do good ideas that may be of a slight stretch
28:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which are most good ideas
28:25 <Ballig> good idea is open to interpretation
28:34 <Ballig> I think ditching a backpack is a stupid idea
28:37 <Ballig> and I've told you why I believe that
28:43 <Ballig> all you need is a GM like me and you're fucked
28:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because you see the ability to carry the kitchen sink because you may use it is a good idea
29:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and that hitler might be your DM
29:13 <Mekkis> because you have a choice
29:20 <Mekkis> you can either use the backpack abstraction
29:42 <Mekkis> or you can go into excruciating detail about all your items, where they are, and how they restrict you
29:51 <Mekkis> I know which one I prefer
29:51 <Ballig> having a backpack isn't "carry the kitchen sink because you might need it"
30:07 <Ballig> hell, backpack isn't even that much of an abstraction all the time
30:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why would they restrict you if a backpack carrying everything under the sun doesn't if it's within your weight limit?
30:14 <Ballig> in some cases it is
30:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> in combat it is, and that's the main abstraction
30:36 <Ballig> not necessarily
30:40 <Ballig> that just comes down to your combat training
30:40 <Mekkis> because we're playing Pathfinder, not Lawyers and Loopholes
30:45 <Ballig> you can be trained to fight with a backpack
31:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mekkis; that is just fucking funny coming from you XD
31:27 <Mekkis> I'm glad you appreciate it
31:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig; with that same logic, you can also be trained to play with potions along your legs, knives down your shirt
31:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and a rope with grappling hood on your back
32:02 <Ballig> it would have to be very specific training
32:23 <Ballig> the second you do knives down your legs and potions down your shirt, you're all thrown off
32:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not really
32:42 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if they're the same weight, you'd be fine
32:43 <Ballig> I'd say so :p
32:46 <Ballig> especially with potions
32:52 <Ballig> suddenly you need to brace your torso from any impact, instead of your legs
32:56 <Ballig> or seriously risk potions exploding
33:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
33:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's true
33:27 <Ballig> seems like a lot of effort (and arguing, with potentially every GM you could ever come across in PFS) just to ditch a backpack
33:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but I doubt people would be doing that sort of rulings
33:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, I got 75gp from my day job!
33:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> otherwise you'd have to keep track of where your potions are on your person/bag, and if there is a chance of breakage for doing certain actions
33:52 <Ballig> no *I* got 75gp from my day job
34:06 <Ballig> I'm pretty sure you rolled an 11
34:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mekkis; you have a bullshit dayjob
34:13 <Mekkis> I rolled an 11
34:19 <Ballig> including bonuses
34:19 <Mekkis> but I have a +21 modifier
34:30 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, at least I have a job.
34:38 <Brunius> Ohhh
34:40 <Brunius> Burn
34:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
34:51 <Ballig> burned two people at once with that one
35:01 <Mekkis> Avatar was collateral
35:02 <Mekkis> sorry
35:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> this kid thinks he's funny
35:09 <Ballig> splash damage from the burn
35:35 <Brunius> You should stop throwing alchemist's fire!
35:40 <Mekkis> yeah
35:46 <Mekkis> start using Skyrockets instead
35:48 <Mekkis> they're better
36:09 <Avatar> I think the real problem with your diplomacy day job roll is your eidolon gives you +8 to diplomacy
36:16 <Avatar> how does that even work
36:29 <Avatar> like why does your eidolon give you better diplomacy at all
36:41 <Mekkis> My eidolon enhances my vocal skills to supernatural highs
36:47 <Avatar> ahh
36:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why?
36:59 <Avatar> he's fused with it
37:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> oh yea, mekkis the munchkin
37:25 <Avatar> +8 is still a huge bonus for anything
37:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> +2 traits
37:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> +huge stat and max points
37:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> +feat or 2
37:55 <Avatar> the rest is really legit
38:05 <Avatar> you can't complain when you put an arm and a leg into it
38:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how effective are you in combat mekkis?
38:41 <Mekkis> effective enough
38:59 <Avatar> plenty effective
39:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea that's the munchkin part
39:05 <Mekkis> what?
39:16 <Ballig> more effective than my wizard
39:17 <Mekkis> are you saying that if I'm skilled, I shouldn't be effective in combat
39:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> he's fucking minmaxed diplomacy, but is still effective in combat
39:41 <Mekkis> put it this way
39:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you munchkined
40:03 <Mekkis> I don't care how awesome your skills are, if you're not effective in combat, you shouldn't be playing
40:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I love how much this guy tries to not make me want to play pfs/pathfinder/dnd XD
41:05 <Brunius> It's more you.
41:09 <Mekkis> I consider you a lost cause regardless, so it's no loss either way
41:12 <Mekkis> for me at least
41:42 <Brunius> You refuse to change what you think of the world, regardless of what logical arguements are put forward.
41:43 <Mekkis> I'm not going to sugar-coat and misrepresent things to try to get you to play
41:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> brunius: it probably is more me, but that's because I don't see DnD as a hack 'n' slash munchkin game
41:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but that might just be me
42:10 <Brunius> D&D isn't just a hack 'n' slash munchkin game
42:14 <Brunius> But it is a large part.
42:26 <Avatar> mekkis where is the ability that gives you that kind of bonus to diplomacy
42:29 <Avatar> in ultimate magic
42:38 <Mekkis> APG
42:41 <Mekkis> Skilled
42:47 <Mekkis> (+1 evolution point)
42:56 <Avatar> is it part of the archetype or the class
42:59 <Mekkis> class
43:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I dunno, if you shouldn't be playing because you aren't useful in combat, then that means the game is all combat based
43:14 <Mekkis> no
43:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> or all combat oriented
43:20 <Mekkis> it means that there is combat involved
43:36 <Mekkis> and thus you're a liability when combat occurs
44:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so? there is combat in shadowrun, but you aren't required to be combat effective to play
44:16 <Mekkis>   Skilled (Ex): An eidolon becomes especially adept at a
44:16 <Mekkis> specific skill, gaining a +8 racial bonus on that skill. This
44:16 <Mekkis> evolution can be selected more than once. Its effects do
44:16 <Mekkis> not stack. Each time an eidolon selects this evolution, it
44:16 <Mekkis> applies to a different skill.
44:25 <Avatar> the scenario I make is going to be primarily swimming
44:31 <Mekkis> I wouldn't know, Spaceshot_tm2_: I haven't played shadowrun
44:35 <Avatar> there might be 1 combat encounter in it
44:54 <Brunius> Oh god.
45:01 <Avatar> with a dolphin
45:03 <Brunius> Don't make it entirely trained-only skill checks.
45:11 <Avatar> swim isn't trained only don't worry
45:23 <Mekkis> Avatar, sounds like a good idea
45:29 <Avatar> actually maybe acrobatics
45:31 <Mekkis> maybe you'll learn underwater combat then
45:37 <Avatar> the mission is to get to the top of something
45:56 <Avatar> and it'll have a good way to kill druids on rocs
45:57 <Mekkis> let me guess, it's in an antimagic field and there's high seismic activity?
46:07 <Brunius> Seems legit.
46:14 <Mekkis> with large spider webs everywhere
46:19 <Mekkis> or extremely strong winds
47:06 <Mekkis> strictly speaking, pretty much every scenario - at least at low level - should have several ways to achieve it
47:13 <Mekkis> Combat seems to be the exception
47:13 <Avatar> no it would just require acrobatics and linguistics and sense motive
47:29 <Avatar> not much else, especially not much combat
47:31 <Mekkis> and Knowledge (Geography)
47:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mekkis; that's the issue
47:42 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_: that's the reality
48:32 <Mekkis> Avatar, Ballig, Horace^Myrthit, snypt, Thelen, Tashes: any of you free for a PFS game?
48:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> there isn't really a way to deal with a combat situation (such as talking it out, by passing it, or whatever) besides fighting it out
48:46 <Avatar> I'm absolutely game to play
48:50 <Avatar> unless it's beginner box
48:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> most other games allow for a way around, even by RAW
48:55 <Ballig> I'll play
48:58 <Ballig> I have no reason to be asleep
49:00 <Mekkis> not beginner box
49:06 <Avatar> one more
49:07 <Mekkis> it's #0-17
49:07 <Avatar> anyone
49:17 <Ballig> perils of the pirate pact
49:19 <Mekkis> Brunius was available
49:20 <Mekkis> ja
49:24 <Avatar> let's go brunius
49:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd do it... owait...
49:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> XD
49:34 <Mekkis> what tier do you want?
49:36 <Avatar> cmon spaceshot
49:41 <Avatar> I dunno, is it hard
49:49 <Brunius> How long will it take?
49:54 <Avatar> how long do you have
49:59 <Mekkis> when I played it, it took one hour, and there was no combat
49:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> doesn't help I'm playing payday instead :P
50:08 <Brunius> Mum's informed me I'm not allowed up past midnight tonight
50:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heh
50:26 <Brunius> So it'll take us about 5 hours and have loads of combat?
50:28 <Avatar> two hours eh
50:33 <Avatar> that's enough to get started
50:41 <Ballig> you played it with your synthesist
50:43 <Ballig> with a +21 diplomacy
50:46 <Mekkis> nope
50:52 <Mekkis> I played with my first character
50:55 <Mekkis> Mytiazair
50:58 <Avatar> I will shoot first and ask questions later
50:59 <Mekkis> 1st level enchanter
51:05 <Avatar> I really want to use my gun
51:22 <Ballig> are you Bucking it
51:27 <Avatar> sure bloody am
51:30 <Brunius> On a scale of Kaleb to QQ, how broken was Mytiazair?
51:31 <Avatar> I am itching to try my 3rd level stuff
51:37 <Mekkis> ummm
51:37 <Avatar> haha
51:42 <Mekkis> very close to Kaleb
51:48 <Avatar> Kaleb to QQ lolllllllll
51:50 <Brunius> Hmmm
51:54 <Mekkis> Mytiazair is still rather underpowered for his level
51:59 <Mekkis> and probably always will be
52:00 <Avatar> get that sneak attack up man and you will be laughing
52:05 <Avatar> laughing all the way to the bank
52:07 <Brunius> brb grabbing Kaleb's character sheet
52:08 <Ballig> Mekkis: what's the skilled thing on Nightmare's sheet
52:10 <Ballig> with the +8 diplomacy
52:15 <Avatar> well I guess we can uptier
52:19 <Avatar> if it's just us 3
52:25 <Mekkis> he was created to abuse a certain rule that was later erratad
52:35 <Ballig> are you allowed to do that
52:48 <Mekkis> what?
52:57 <Mekkis> abuse a certain rule that was later erratad?
53:06 <Ballig> continue to use a rule in the pre-errata version
53:08 <Mekkis> sure, but after it's erratad, you can't use it
53:15 <Mekkis> that's why the character's weak
53:20 <Ballig> are we talking about Myiatzar or Nightmare
53:25 <Mekkis> Mytiazair
53:27 <Avatar> yeah sounds like two different things
53:28 <Ballig> oh, right
53:33 <Ballig> what is the Skilled thing on Nightmare's eheet
53:43 <Ballig> eheet/sheet
53:55 <Mekkis> (it adds insult to injury when I asked Jason Buhlman whether it would work, and he said it would...)
54:09 <Avatar> good on you jase
54:10 <Mekkis> it's an evolution that an eidoloin can get
54:29 <Avatar> we should get started if we have only 2 hours
54:32 <Mekkis> yep
54:37 Avatar gives channel operator status to Mekkis
54:37 <Mekkis> change nicks please
54:41 Avatar is now known as Buck
54:42 <Ballig> but when you're fused your eidolon has no skills
54:45 <Ballig> what tier are we doing
54:47 <Buck> let's uptier?
55:00 <Buck> if you guys want
55:14 <Buck> I think a level 4 cleric pregen would be nice
55:17 <Mekkis> but it still has the skilled evolution
55:17 <Ballig> need to know what tiers are available
55:20 <Brunius> Woah, woah, woah.
55:22 <Ballig> and what tier we're doing
55:26 <Brunius> You met Jason Buhlman?
55:35 <Ballig> he got a free limited wish from him
55:36 <Buck> is he a god?
55:42 <Brunius> What tier?
55:47 <Ballig> Mekkis: what tiers are there
55:48 <Buck> what tier mekkis
55:53 <Mekkis> 1-2 3-4 6-7\
55:55 <Buck> mekkis what are the tiers
55:59 <Buck> yeah 3-4
56:06 <Buck> get a 4th level cleric out here
56:25 <Buck> unless you two feel particularly like playing low tier
56:35 Ballig is now known as Bobbob
56:40 <Buck> I think we're all starving for the higher gp 
56:41 <Mekkis> this is season 0, FYI, so any creatures I mention may not be present in the Bestiary :)
56:45 ChanOP gives voice to Bobbob
56:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I should make a deaf oracle
56:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> :P
56:47 Brunius is now known as Kaleb
56:54 ChanOP gives voice to Kaleb
56:58 <Buck> you can play a level 4 pregen if you want
57:01 <Buck> right now
57:04 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, playing a Gnomish Deaf Heavens Oracle?
57:12 <Buck> or an oracle, I guess
57:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if it's deaf I probs don't have to look that often :P
57:15 <Buck> but channelling ftw
57:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but no I'm good
57:35 <Mekkis> (that's an example of a /horribly/ powergamed-at-the-expense-of-roleplaying character I wouldn't allow at my table)
57:36 <Buck> you get credit for a level 1 character if you play this pregen I think?
57:43 <Mekkis> ja
57:48 <Kaleb> Reminder: No mic
57:54 <Buck> forget skype
57:57 <Bobbob> nah
57:58 <Buck> unless you guys particularly want to
57:59 <Bobbob> don't forget skype
58:07 <Bobbob> you will miss out on the sweet planning
58:21 <Mekkis> You are in the river kiongdoms.
58:23 <Buck> yeah alright
58:35 <Mekkis> If you want to please PM me your factions and PFS numbers, we can get started...
58:46 <Mekkis> “I have a mission for you,” says Istivil Bosk, the Venture-Captain
58:46 <Mekkis> of Daggermark in the River Kingdoms. After receiving the
58:46 <Mekkis> assignment from Venture-Captain Adril Hestram in Absalom,
58:46 <Mekkis> traveling for weeks across the Inner Sea and up the lengthy
58:46 <Mekkis> Sellen River, and with barely an hour to adjust to Daggermark’s
58:46 <Mekkis> sights and sounds, the Venture-Captain of Daggermark now
58:46 <Mekkis> paces back and forth across cramped quarters crammed full
58:46 <Mekkis> of maps, books, and adventuring gear.
59:10 * ChanOP removes channel operator status from Buck
59:26 <Kaleb> We've come across him a couple of times before
00:02 <Mekkis> “Your timing is perfect, friends,” explains Bosk, an elderly
00:02 <Mekkis> man with graying hair and a pinched, weathered face. He
00:02 <Mekkis> waves a parchment in his hand. “I received another letter just
00:02 <Mekkis> yesterday.” He holds up another stack of letters. “It’s from the
00:02 <Mekkis> Black Marquis—I believe his real name is Bazzak—the leader
00:02 <Mekkis> of a band of brigands surreptiously known as the Pirate Pact.
00:02 <Mekkis> In all of these letters, he claims to need our help and offers
00:02 <Mekkis> us The Memoirs of the Silver Brotherhood, a rare text—maybe
00:02 <Mekkis> the rarest—in exchange. The Society tried for years to track it
00:02 <Mekkis> down and now Bazzaks claims to be ready to give it to us. I’m
00:02 <Mekkis> sending you north to Deadbridge near the Echo Wood to meet
00:02 <Mekkis> this Black Marquis and offer him your help with whatever it is
00:02 <Mekkis> he needs. I want this book, and you’ll get it for me.”
00:49 <Mekkis> And so the mission travels north along the Sellen River, to
00:49 <Mekkis> the aptly named village of Deadbridge, a rundown hamlet
00:49 <Mekkis> partially built on wharves. It is there, in a rundown antique
00:49 <Mekkis> manor house where stands Urdul Bazzak, the Black Marquis.
01:18 <Mekkis> “I rule the Pirate Pact and with it the stretch of the Sellen
01:18 <Mekkis> River between here and Numeria,” proudly states the portly
01:18 <Mekkis> little man. “The waterways are the lifeblood of the River
01:18 <Mekkis> Kingdoms, so you must understand that any menace to the
01:18 <Mekkis> river is a menace to the balance of power.” The Black Marquis
01:18 <Mekkis> stops and quickly looks to his left and right before leaning
01:18 <Mekkis> in and continuing in hushed tones. “Unless someone deals
01:18 <Mekkis> with this threat soon, I could lose everything. Normally I
01:18 <Mekkis> would rely on my most trusted lieutenants, but …” Bazzak
01:18 <Mekkis> sits up, regains some composure, and resumes. “The book
01:18 <Mekkis> I’m willing to trade for your service—The Memoirs of the
01:18 <Mekkis> Silver Brotherhood—contains information about an Azlanti
01:18 <Mekkis> treasure vault deep within the Echo Wood. That’s where I sent
01:18 <Mekkis> my most trusted lieutenants. Only, on their way they were
01:18 <Mekkis> waylaid by spiders and abominations and only one returned
01:18 <Mekkis> alive. Lady Riverbane sent out another ship upon her return,
01:18 <Mekkis> the Hanspur’s Luck, to search for my men. The Luck hasn’t
01:18 <Mekkis> returned either.” Bazzak points to the only other person in
01:18 <Mekkis> the room, a raven-haired beauty standing in a corner. “Lady
01:18 <Mekkis> Riverbane is my most trusted second, and she will take one
01:18 <Mekkis> of my best ships and guide you back to the Azlanti vault. Rid
01:18 <Mekkis> the river of these monstrous spiders and their abominations,
01:18 <Mekkis> find the Hanspur’s Luck, and uncover the whereabouts of my
01:18 <Mekkis> men, and the book is yours. Do it quickly, do it quietly, and do
01:18 <Mekkis> it before the rest of the Pact realize I’ve sent my best men on
01:18 <Mekkis> fools’ errands that may have killed them all.”
02:15 <Kaleb> This is more than a screen for me
03:43 <Buck> "So.... what do you want us to do?"
04:57 <Bobbob> "What are we likely to find on the island? Just spiders? What are the abominations?"
07:21 <Bobbob> http://www.ballig.net/DevCA-testVersion.zip
08:35 <Mekkis> "Well, we need to know what happened. We need to find the /Hanspur's Luck/, and the fate of my men."
08:58 <Kaleb> Yeah, that's in adventurer's armoury too
13:17 <Bobbob> did Mekkis die
13:26 <Mekkis> call me again
13:39 <Bobbob> you aren't online
14:26 <Mekkis> try now
14:27 <Kaleb> I'm not getting any echo
14:52 <Bobbob> you aren't online
15:36 <Mekkis> how about now?
15:42 <Bobbob> you still aren't online
15:47 <Bobbob> Mekkis: I will buy two vials of anti-toxin
16:20 <Kaleb> Nope
16:24 <Kaleb> No inter-player trading
16:37 <Mekkis> ok
16:45 <Mekkis> am I online now?
16:49 <Bobbob> nope
19:25 <Bobbob> we have our 4th level cleric
21:07 <Mekkis> okay
21:48 <Kaleb> Delay poison might be good
21:59 <Kaleb> Mekkis: I've got Trap spotter, btw
22:09 <Mekkis> what does that do?
22:18 <Kaleb> Any time I go within 10ft of a trap, I get an automatic check for it
22:23 <Mekkis> fun fun
22:24 <Mekkis> ok
22:25 <Kaleb> Rolled in secret by you.
22:37 <Mekkis> roll 10 secret perception checks
22:44 <Mekkis> tag them trapfinding
22:46 <Mekkis> do it now
23:12 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
23:14 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
23:15 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
23:16 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
23:21 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
23:22 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
23:23 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
23:24 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapfinding @Mekkis
24:35 <Bobbob> 2--delay poison, lesser restoration, cure moderate wounds (d), bear's endurance
24:35 <Bobbob> 1--bless x4, cure light wounds (d)
24:35 <Bobbob> 0--detect magic, guidance, light, stabilize
24:38 <Bobbob> for the cleric, for the record
25:16 <Kaleb> Ha! I knew it!
25:23 <Kaleb> Why should I tell you man?
25:55 <Buck> I can help you
26:19 <Kaleb> brb
27:03 <Bobbob> Mekkis: can I confirm we only have the one faction mission
27:06 <Mekkis> unless you want to do something before you get on the boat (which should be visible on devca), give me colours, sizes and boat positions
27:06 <Bobbob> there's not a second one I'm mising?
27:16 <Mekkis> Bobbob, that is correct
27:32 <Mekkis> This is Season 0
27:52 <Mekkis> diebot.ti4200.info port 4000
28:31 <snypt> who is pinging me
28:42 <snypt> ah mekkis
28:46 <snypt> u mean now?
28:54 <Mekkis> yeah
29:07 <snypt> nope sorry man i got a last min call for work tomorrow
29:17 <snypt> gott be at philip island at 7am =/
29:22 <Kaleb> nice
29:38 <snypt> not really
29:44 <snypt> means ill get fuckall sleep
30:05 <snypt> gotta build a stage for some music festival over new years
30:41 <Kaleb> Supply and demand man
30:41 <Buck> maybe next time snypt
30:42 <Bobbob> we're ready to head out
30:56 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Bobbob
31:08 * Bobbob removes channel operator status from Bobbob
31:21 ChanOP gives channel half-operator status to Bobbob
31:27 <Mekkis> 220.239.67.220
31:32 * Bobbob removes channel half-operator status from Bobbob
32:09 <Buck> Brown, large
32:11 <Kaleb> Yellow, S
32:12 <Buck> with my horse Billy
32:28 <Kaleb> G4
32:31 <Bobbob> H10, orange, medium
33:20 <Buck> !throw 1d20+5 knowledge engineering
33:21 <diebot> Buck, knowledge engineering: [1d20=20] 25
33:31 <Kaleb> I'm leaving my pony at the docks, too
34:35 <Buck> I look out to sea
35:47 <Kaleb> IPv6 just makes me let out a sigh
35:58 <Kaleb> But I s'pos we'd better give it a try
36:01 <Kaleb> I s'pos we'd better give it a try
36:09 <Buck> I sense the motives of the sea
36:10 <Mekkis> Kaleb, ok then
36:19 <Mekkis> I'll host DevCA on IPv6 for you then
36:21 Buck ([email protected]) has left #d&d
36:21 Buck ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
36:23 <Mekkis> no IPv4 for you :)
36:33 <Kaleb> I think I uninstalled my v6 tunneler
36:35 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Bobbob
36:39 Bobbob gives voice to Buck
36:43 * Bobbob removes channel operator status from Bobbob
37:06 <Bobbob> I'll talk to the Lady
37:28 <Kaleb> I'm guessing he wants their cha too?
37:52 <Bobbob> "What can you tell me about this island?"
38:26 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
38:27 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
38:29 <Kaleb> I'll make a disable device check to stop the boat
38:42 <Mekkis> Are you Sure you want to do that?
38:49 <Kaleb> Yes.
38:52 <Kaleb> No
38:53 <Mekkis> "The island? hey?"
38:55 <Kaleb> Wait, no
39:18 <Kaleb> RED WUNS GO FASTA
39:29 <Bobbob> "What sort of abominations can we expect?"
39:33 <Kaleb> I try to find red paint
39:43 <Bobbob> "Are there any dangers before we reach the island? River brigands, for example?"
40:33 <Mekkis> "Well, legends say that the island is full of caverns, and mythical creatures. They say that there are demons, devils, ghasts, mindflayers and other unsavoury beings within. Some say that there are even Andorans there! In other words, it's a whole lot of hogwash..."
41:41 <Bobbob> "So what of the dangers before we arrive? Is this area frequented by brigands?"
42:10 <Kaleb> What?
42:43 <Mekkis> "well, these are the river kingdoms. Be prepared for any amount of fun..."
42:58 <Bobbob> I prepare myself for fun
43:03 <Bobbob> unless she's hitting on me
43:06 <Bobbob> in which case I'm already prepared
43:07 <Kaleb> I'm actively scanning the horizon for "River Brigands"
43:09 <Mekkis> "Maybe I prefer YOU for fun..."
43:35 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 nobility
43:36 <diebot> Bobbob, nobility: [1d20=2] 7
43:41 <Buck> !throw 1d20+2 knowledge local
43:42 <diebot> Buck, knowledge local: [1d20=11] 13
43:57 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+6 K:Local @Mekkis
44:27 <Mekkis> knowledge local tells you shitall!
44:36 <Bobbob> I make sure my weapons are vailable
44:36 <Bobbob> +a
46:15 <Mekkis> Since it left Deadbridge, the Scrag Fisher has been cutting a straight furrow into the lazy waters of the Sellen River, making good speed thanks to its industrious crew actively manning the ship’s sail and ropes. Deadbridge is already far behind when an exclamation rises. “Sail Ho!” One of the robust sailors points ahead while turning toward Lady Riverbane standing at the helm. “It’s a cog, Milady. And it flies no colors—should we tende
46:15 <Mekkis> r these trespassers?” Looking at the incoming vessel, Lady Riverbane answers in a stern voice: “Nay! Not today, man. We have our mission. We’ll stick to it.”
46:54 <Mekkis> Without another word, the crew gets back to working the hawser and lanyards.
46:56 <Kaleb> I draw my Shortbow and nock an Arrow
47:10 <Mekkis> Ok, Kaleb 
47:27 <Bobbob> I wield my shortbow
48:20 <Mekkis> As the two ships draw closer, the other craft’s pitiful state becomes obvious. With planks and riggings missing in places, sailors frantically move about the deck and appear to have difficulty steering their ship/
49:04 <Bobbob> "Lady, perhaps we should engage this ship in conversation?"
49:05 <Mekkis> As the two ships avoid collision and pass alongside each other, a shout rises—”Now!”—followed by a volley of grappling hocks from the other vessel. The Scrag Fisher is under attack! 
49:07 * Buck looks around, curiously
49:15 <Mekkis> roll initiative...
49:19 <Kaleb> @init
49:20 <diebot> Kaleb, Initiative: [1d20=20] 26
49:24 <Kaleb> Aww yeah
49:30 <Buck> @init
49:30 <diebot> Buck, initiative: [1d20=17] 20
49:37 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 initiative
49:38 <diebot> Bobbob, initiative: [1d20=11] 15
51:43 <Buck> 33/33
51:47 <Kaleb> 24/24
51:50 <Bobbob> 43/43
52:00 <Bobbob> Kyra 33/33
52:21 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20 kyra
52:21 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra: [1d20=5] 5
52:31 <Mekkis> !throw 9#1d20
52:32 <diebot> Mekkis, 9#1d20: [1d20=8] 8, [1d20=11] 11, [1d20=16] 16, [1d20=7] 7, [1d20=10] 10, [1d20=1] 1, [1d20=4] 4, [1d20=15] 15, [1d20=20] 20
53:11 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
53:34 <Kaleb> I loose my arrow at the one at L5
54:09 <Mekkis> roll it
54:12 <Kaleb> @ranged
54:12 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=3] 10; Damage: [1d4=3] 3; Sneak Attack Damage: [2d6=6,4] 10
54:42 <Kaleb> 20ft S, drawing Shortsword on the way
54:46 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
54:51 <Kaleb> Yeo
54:52 <Kaleb> Yep
54:54 <Buck> I take out my GUN
54:56 <Mekkis> ok
54:57 <Buck> and aim for
55:01 <Mekkis> Kaleb drops his bow
55:26 <Mekkis> roll it
56:02 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8
56:03 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+8: [1d20=19] 27
56:06 <Mekkis> hits
56:10 <Mekkis> in the FACE!
56:17 <Buck> !throw 1d12+2
56:18 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+2: [1d12=8] 10
56:39 <Mekkis> he falls off the edge, and lands in the water, face down
57:03 <Buck> I reload a paper catridge
57:14 <Mekkis> the buy at L5 shoots a shortbow at Buck 
57:33 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2
57:34 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+2: [1d20=13] 15
57:59 <Mekkis> the one at L14 shoots a shortbow at Bobbob 
58:01 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2
58:02 <Kaleb> Sounds like a low budget horror movie 
58:03 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+2: [1d20=3] 5
58:09 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
58:09 <Kaleb> "When Snickers attack!"
58:20 <Kaleb> The chocolate bars revolt!
59:04 <Bobbob> I'll drop my shortbow and move to I6 and draw my lance along the way
59:05 <Mekkis> only Carob can save us!
59:09 <Bobbob> and attack K6
59:34 <Mekkis> roll it
59:36 <Bobbob> or put it away if my mount can move independently
59:50 <Bobbob> 2h + power attack
59:51 <Mekkis> roll it
59:53 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8
59:54 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+8: [1d20=13] 21
59:56 <Mekkis> hits
00:01 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
00:01 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=3] 13
00:09 <Kaleb> Where did he drop his Shortbow?
00:11 <Bobbob> end turn
00:16 <Kaleb> Oh ok
00:20 <Mekkis> a bloody, skewered corpse lands on the deck
00:40 <Bobbob> p-attack
00:42 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8
00:43 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+8: [1d20=5] 13
01:04 <Mekkis> a corpse slides along your lance and lands at your pony's feet
01:22 <Kaleb> Aw crap
01:25 <Mekkis> three of them attack Kaleb 
01:26 <Kaleb> 18
01:37 <Mekkis> !throw 3#1d20+2 scimitar
01:37 <diebot> Mekkis, scimitar: [1d20=19] 21, [1d20=5] 7, [1d20=20] 22
01:46 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+2 confirmation
01:47 <diebot> Mekkis, confirmation: [1d20=11] 13, [1d20=8] 10
01:48 <Kaleb> damn
02:01 <Kaleb> It's 18
02:02 <Mekkis> !throw 2d6 damage
02:03 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [2d6=5,5] 10
02:09 <Kaleb> Small, high dex
02:12 <Kaleb> 14/24
02:13 <Mekkis> it's now cleric's turn
02:47 <Mekkis> !findchar Kaleb
02:47 <Kaleb> NO
02:48 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Kaleb, number: 229( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=229 )
02:55 <Kaleb> Yeah
02:57 <Kaleb> It's nice
03:11 <Kaleb> Will I need the healing?
03:24 <Kaleb> Or will Bobbob just murder them all in the next round of combat
03:25 <Bobbob> north and northeast
03:29 <Bobbob> and use a wand of cure light wounds on Kaleb
03:41 <Mekkis> roll it
03:45 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
03:45 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=6] 7
03:50 <Kaleb> 21/24
03:57 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
04:03 <Kaleb> Le stab
04:14 <Kaleb> E
04:18 <Mekkis> ok
04:39 <Kaleb> @melee
04:40 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=13] 20; Damage: [1d4=1] 1; Sneak Attack Damage: [2d6=4,5] 9
04:44 <Kaleb> T.T
04:49 <Mekkis> ok
04:53 <Mekkis> move action remains
04:56 <Kaleb> Then 5ft North
05:07 <Mekkis> ok
05:34 <Kaleb> One was before and one was after
05:43 <Kaleb> Yeah
05:46 <Kaleb> My turn is over
05:47 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
07:00 <Kaleb> Thanks bro
07:28 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8
07:28 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+8: [1d20=9] 17
07:36 <Mekkis> hits
07:42 <Buck> !throw 1d12+2
07:42 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+2: [1d12=5] 7
07:48 <Mekkis> not happy
07:51 <Mekkis> but alive
07:55 <Mekkis> move action remains
08:05 <Buck> reloading with a paper catridge
08:13 <Mekkis> ok
08:23 <Mekkis> hmmm
08:34 <Mekkis> two arrows fly at Bobbob 
08:38 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+2
08:38 <diebot> Mekkis, 2#1d20+2: [1d20=2] 4, [1d20=20] 22
08:43 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2 confirm
08:44 <diebot> Mekkis, confirm: [1d20=15] 17
08:49 <Bobbob> AC 22
08:56 <Mekkis> !throw 1d6 damage
08:57 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [1d6=6] 6
09:01 <Bobbob> "Bastard!"
09:04 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
09:48 <Bobbob> I'll go 5ft south and attack I9
09:57 <Mekkis> roll it
09:59 <Bobbob> p-attack
10:02 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8
10:02 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+8: [1d20=12] 20
10:03 <Mekkis> naturally
10:05 <Mekkis> hits
10:17 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
10:18 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=3] 13
10:20 <Mekkis> You add a bit more to the pile of gore on the deck
10:32 <Mekkis> move action remains
10:35 <Bobbob> and uh
10:36 <Mekkis> (and mount's actions)
10:49 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+9
10:49 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+9: [1d20=15] 24
11:44 <Bobbob> !throw 2#1d20+3
11:45 <diebot> Bobbob, 2#1d20+3: [1d20=2] 5, [1d20=14] 17
11:47 <Kaleb> What HAVE I been downloading
12:21 <Bobbob> !throw 1d3+1
12:22 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d3+1: [1d3=3] 4
12:27 <Kaleb> Worth noting anything I personally download will probably be lost in the flood of what my siblings and parents download
13:00 <Mekkis> one attacks Kaleb 
13:04 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2
13:05 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+2: [1d20=9] 11
13:11 <Mekkis> the other attacks Kaleb as well
13:13 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2
13:14 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+2: [1d20=11] 13
13:22 <Mekkis> it's now the cleric's turn
13:33 <Bobbob> she attacks G8
13:37 <Kaleb> Yeah getting the $$$ for Mithril
13:47 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6
13:47 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+6: [1d20=8] 14
13:50 <Mekkis> sure
13:54 <Mekkis> hits
14:01 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+3
14:01 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+3: [1d6=3] 6
14:04 <Mekkis> ok
14:09 <Mekkis> move action remains
14:18 <Bobbob> 5 foot north
14:35 <Mekkis> ok
14:47 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
14:55 <Kaleb> I (try) stabbing
15:02 <Mekkis> go ahead
15:05 <Mekkis> attempt away!
15:06 <Kaleb> @melee
15:06 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=3] 10; Damage: [1d4=2] 2; Sneak Attack Damage: [2d6=5,3] 8
15:10 <Mekkis> miss
15:15 <Mekkis> move action remains
15:23 <Kaleb> 5ft N
15:32 <Bobbob> 37/43
15:39 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
16:03 <Mekkis> roll it
16:04 <Kaleb> How much can we sell their ship for?
16:14 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8
16:14 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+8: [1d20=14] 22
16:16 <Mekkis> htis
16:18 <Mekkis> roll damage
16:21 <Buck> !throw 1d12+2
16:21 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+2: [1d12=5] 7
16:22 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+6 Appraise
16:23 <diebot> Kaleb, Appraise: [1d20=15] 21
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16:27 <Mekkis> he's not happy
16:49 <Buck> !throw 1d20+6
16:50 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+6: [1d20=19] 25
17:14 <Mekkis> bowm!
17:18 <Mekkis> sure
17:21 <Mekkis> ok
17:24 <Buck> reload with my paper catridge
17:29 <Kaleb> Yeah
17:32 <Kaleb> Totally.
17:39 <Mekkis> you're such a badass that two arrows come at you!
17:45 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+2
17:46 <diebot> Mekkis, 2#1d20+2: [1d20=7] 9, [1d20=7] 9
17:49 <Mekkis> missing
18:18 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
19:22 <Bobbob> I'll attack G8
19:28 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8
19:28 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+8: [1d20=11] 19
19:33 <Mekkis> hits
19:33 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
19:34 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=3] 13
19:43 <Bobbob> and horse attacks H8
19:44 <Mekkis> any further actions?
19:46 <Mekkis> roll ride
19:58 <Bobbob> !throw 2#1d20+3
19:58 <diebot> Bobbob, 2#1d20+3: [1d20=17] 20, [1d20=7] 10
20:02 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+9
20:02 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+9: [1d20=11] 20
20:05 <Mekkis> ok
20:06 <Mekkis> one hit
20:09 <Bobbob> !throw 1d3+1
20:10 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d3+1: [1d3=3] 4
20:12 <Mekkis> ok
20:18 <Mekkis> stab at billy
20:20 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2
20:21 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+2: [1d20=14] 16
20:34 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+9
20:34 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+9: [1d20=8] 17
20:39 <Mekkis> you avoid the hit
20:44 <Bobbob> take that, brigand!
20:45 <Mekkis> it's now the cleric's turn
20:47 <Bobbob> "Jerk!"
20:51 <Bobbob> she 5ft souths
20:52 <Bobbob> and attacks
20:54 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6
20:54 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+6: [1d20=6] 12
20:59 <Mekkis> htis!
20:59 <Bobbob> end turn
21:08 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+3
21:09 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+3: [1d6=1] 4
21:25 <Kaleb> They're sail ships dude
21:26 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
21:35 <Kaleb> How much is their ship worth?
21:38 <Kaleb> Can I tell?
21:51 <Bobbob> [11:15:24 PM] <%diebot> Kaleb, Appraise: [1d20=15] 21
21:56 <Mekkis> you think that it'd be hard to take this to market
22:10 <Mekkis> without Lady Riversbane knowing about it
22:14 <Kaleb> Ha
22:17 <Mekkis> and telling her superiors
22:24 <Kaleb> Draw dagger and throw at the guy S then
22:28 <Mekkis> okay
22:36 <Mekkis> roll it
22:38 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+7 Attack
22:39 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=9] 16
22:42 <Mekkis> (do you have precise shot?)
22:46 <Kaleb> Nope
22:48 <Mekkis> hits
22:52 <Mekkis> also: PBS
23:14 <Mekkis> lol
23:16 <Kaleb> !throw 1d3
23:17 <diebot> Kaleb, 1d3: [1d3=3] 3
23:27 <Mekkis> your dagger lands in his left eye
23:38 <Mekkis> it's  now Buck's turn
23:57 <Kaleb> Blow it up!
24:28 <Buck> N5
24:34 <Buck> "Do you feel lucky punk? Well, do ya?"
24:38 <Buck> (do they surrender?)
24:44 <Buck> I ready a shot if he reacts badly
24:49 <Mekkis> ok
24:53 <Mekkis> noted
25:14 <Mekkis> he drops his shortbow
25:24 <Mekkis> and lunges for your gun
25:29 <Mekkis> make your attack roll
25:32 <Buck> bang
25:32 <Kaleb> Grappling?
25:33 <Mekkis> if you want
25:35 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8
25:35 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+8: [1d20=18] 26
25:35 <Mekkis> he AoOs
25:42 <Buck> !throw 1d12+2
25:42 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+2: [1d12=1] 3
26:49 <Mekkis> make an AoO then
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28:54 <Mekkis> make the AoO
29:30 <Buck> !throw 1d20+4
29:30 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+4: [1d20=8] 12
29:33 <Mekkis> hits
29:52 <Buck> !throw 1d10+1
29:52 <diebot> Buck, 1d10+1: [1d10=3] 4
29:55 <Mekkis> ok
29:59 <Mekkis> roll CMB
30:12 <Mekkis> roll CMB
30:20 <Buck> !throw 1d20+4 CMB
30:20 <diebot> Buck, CMB: [1d20=5] 9
30:37 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20-6 CMB
30:37 <diebot> Mekkis, CMB: [1d20=19] 13
30:45 <Mekkis> ok
31:10 <Mekkis> Buck bashes him with the musket, then shoots him in the face
31:22 <Mekkis> the other guy shoots at buck
31:24 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+2
31:25 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+2: [1d20=17] 19
31:32 <Mekkis> !throw 1d6 damage
31:32 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [1d6=3] 3
31:38 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
31:42 <Buck> 30/33
32:26 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sorry to but in, but buck doesn't have 33max hp, you don't get 10 per level
32:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> for class
33:32 Mekkis has kicked Spaceshot_tm2_ from #d&d (I'm satisfied with his sheet. And please, don't butt in. That's what PMs are for.)
34:12 <Bobbob> ride check
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34:17 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+9
34:18 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+9: [1d20=7] 16
34:23 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 acrobatics
34:23 <diebot> Bobbob, acrobatics: [1d20=12] 17
34:59 <Bobbob> I'll go towards the south guy
35:03 <Bobbob> and attack when I'm within range with my lance
35:18 <Bobbob> I'll do it there
35:21 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8 p-attack
35:21 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=10] 18
35:30 <Mekkis> hits
35:32 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
35:33 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=3] 13
35:42 <Mekkis> you skewer him
36:07 <Mekkis> it's now the Cleric's turn
36:38 <Buck> 26/29
36:52 <Mekkis> cleric delays
36:56 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
37:21 <Kaleb> 3S
37:28 <Kaleb> and stabby
37:38 <Mekkis> what and whom?
37:58 <Mekkis> ok
38:01 <Buck> 22/25
38:02 <Mekkis> Buck's turn
38:13 <Kaleb> Temporary HP ran out?
38:51 <Buck> I look cool
38:54 <Buck> swinging my gun around
39:03 <Bobbob> lootz
39:06 <Mekkis> charisma check?
39:07 <Kaleb> I recover my shortbow and dagger
39:19 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 charisma
39:19 <diebot> Bobbob, charisma: [1d20=13] 14
39:22 <Kaleb> For my arrow:
39:26 <Kaleb> !rng break intact
39:26 <diebot> Kaleb, intact
39:33 <Kaleb> I go and recover my arrow, then
39:49 <Kaleb> Loot?
40:17 <Kaleb> T.T
40:47 <Kaleb> I take all the wine
40:52 <Bobbob> we'll take it all back to our ship
41:23 <Buck> we move all the equipment to our ship
41:44 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+9 Perception
41:44 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=8] 17
41:48 <Buck> !throw 1d20+9 perception
41:48 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=8] 17
41:49 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception aid
41:50 <diebot> Bobbob, perception aid: [1d20=8] 9
41:58 <Kaleb> !save see: 1d20+9 Perception
41:59 <diebot> Kaleb, 1d20+9 Perception saved as @see
42:38 <Mekkis> You find a bunch of trade notes in the captain's cabin
42:47 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 cleric aid perception
42:47 <diebot> Bobbob, cleric aid perception: [1d20=19] 23
42:49 <Kaleb> I ignore them
43:14 <Buck> "What do you know about NEPHMET."
43:27 <Mekkis> "What's Nephmet?"
43:32 <Buck> "A man."
43:54 <Buck> "Zukka Nephmet."
46:23 <Mekkis> "Ah... Nephmet..."
46:51 <Kaleb> I'm so confused
47:05 <Kaleb> I've gotta go soon
47:05 <Mekkis> "He was one of the men who was aboard the Hanspur's Luck"
47:15 <Buck> "Where is he now."
48:06 <Mekkis> "I'm not sure. The ship didn't return..."
48:53 <Buck> I look away from her slowly, watching her
49:04 <Buck> (end conversation)
49:06 <Mekkis> ok
49:37 <Kaleb> I've gotta go guys
49:48 <Kaleb> Later
49:51 Kaleb is now known as Brunius
50:43 <Brunius> That's what you think
50:58 <Brunius> Nah I do actually have to go
51:10 <Mekkis> Buck, PM
51:21 <Brunius> I'd prefer if you'd stop, but if you really want to go ahead, then go ahead
51:44 <Buck> can you play tomorrow
51:49 <Brunius> Should be able to
52:12 <Brunius> Call me if I don't show up to the next game
52:17 <Brunius> I'll probably be asleep
52:35 <Buck> ok
52:43 <Buck> gg
53:07 <Brunius> Night
58:04 <Mekkis> I should probably send Darkwhite an email
58:32 <Mekkis> as to whether Avatar and Ballig deserve the beginner box boon for being TPKed twice
15:52 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Tue 27th 10.30am (Mekkis, game in progress) / Thu 29th 10am (Avatar, game in progress) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
15:52 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Dec 26 22:53:18 2011
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17:46 <Ballig> I was in the shower so this response is a bit belated
17:55 <Ballig> but I realised full hp was a mistake part way through Sorcerer's Tower
17:59 <Ballig> just after the players entered the catacombs
18:07 <Ballig> it was taking a full session, if not two, to get through a single encounter
18:21 <Ballig> because the monsters'  HP were full too
18:43 <Ballig> I decided after the first encounter in the catacombs to give the average HP to monsters and simply not to give any mercy to the players to make up for the imbalance of power
18:53 <Ballig> of course, the very next encounter is when Lucianus' monk got shredded to bits
18:58 <Ballig> and then like two encounters later Solan's brain got eaten
19:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea but again
19:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> is sorc tower a premade?
19:16 <Ballig> no
19:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ahh
19:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that is a bit of an easier fix
19:34 <Avatar> what happened to lucianus'
19:42 <Avatar> I don't remember him having a monk
19:42 <Ballig> uhm
19:49 <Ballig> the fiendish rage drake was trying to attack Solan
19:56 <Ballig> and Lucianus' monk got in the way
19:59 <Ballig> so it shredded him
20:01 <Avatar> ohhhhh
20:05 <Avatar> good on you lucianus
20:07 <Avatar> saved the day
20:10 <Ballig> and Solan escaped the encounter with 1hp
20:11 <Avatar> what a hero
20:28 <Avatar> and then with his next character he destroyed the campaign
20:31 <Ballig> it was after that that he made his rogue
20:34 <Ballig> yeah :p
20:42 <Ballig> because his character lost a hand due to unlawful acts within the city
20:45 <Avatar> man that's a story
21:00 <Avatar> we need like an infographic for how bad things went
21:05 <Ballig> ha
21:09 <Avatar> disaster after disaster after disaster
21:12 <Ballig> it was just be full of blood
21:21 <Ballig> at least he didn't get the party enslaved by giants
21:37 <Avatar> hey that was a solid tactic
21:41 <Mekkis> I'd be up for playing it again
21:48 <Mekkis> :)
21:50 <Avatar> I wouldn't
21:53 <Avatar> I am a PFS man now
21:58 <Avatar> thanks to you mekkis
22:03 <Ballig> Avatar: you realise that non-PFS characters can level too?
22:10 <Avatar> what do you mean
22:19 <Ballig> like, okay, you like to play PFS to get credit so your characters can level
22:26 <Ballig> but non-PFS characters get to level too
22:35 <Avatar> well it's not just the levelling
22:41 <Ballig> what is it
22:44 <Avatar> I like scenario style more than campaign style
22:49 <Ballig> why
23:01 <Avatar> I think I like the structure of it
23:02 <Ballig> the way you talk about games like ToEE and Sorcerer's Tower, it doesn't seem like it
23:08 <Avatar> like you get a mission, and you do nothing but complete it
23:11 <Avatar> a side mission for a bonus
23:18 <Mekkis> because Avatar's got a limited stack size :)
23:19 <Avatar> and once it's done, you never have to think about it again
23:22 <Ballig> I can do that in sorcerer's tower if you want
23:27 <Avatar> new flavour 
23:34 <Avatar> the guaranteed 3 session level up is good too
23:39 <Ballig> 3 scenario level up
23:44 <Avatar> yeah
23:44 <Ballig> tends to be 6 sessions for us
23:52 <Mekkis> believe it or not, Avatar, PFS does have an overarching arch :S
23:54 <Ballig> you realise that's about normal, right
24:02 <Ballig> you're expected to level up after about 13 encounters
24:07 <Ballig> you get maybe 4 encounters per scenario, on average
24:10 <Ballig> that's 12 encounters to level up
24:14 <Ballig> so it's not exactly far off standard
24:15 <Avatar> I don't know if that's guaranteed though
24:22 <Ballig> that's how it's meant to be
24:25 <Avatar> the fact that I can keep perfect track of it is sort of umm
24:28 <Avatar> incentive
24:41 <Ballig> you can keep track of it with exp too
24:45 <Ballig> it's just simplified in PFS
24:47 <Avatar> it's like what keeps you addicted to MMOs
24:57 <Ballig> can't argue with that
27:06 <Avatar> it's sort of like WLD I guess
27:17 <Avatar> except I'm not sure we accomplished anything in WLD did we 
27:32 <Mekkis> Avatar, how long has it been since you've played a character higher than 5th level?
27:47 <Avatar> I don't remember
27:52 <Avatar> what were we playing before PFS
28:16 <Avatar> Snickers was 5th level I think?
28:36 <Avatar> yeah
29:07 <Avatar> I kind of wish I made Snickers in PFS instead of Mellon
29:21 <Avatar> I feel a bit silly doing it now because it's too similar to wizard I think
29:26 <Ballig> what do you consider accomplished in WLD
29:34 <Ballig> you ran away from a tarrasque
30:07 <Avatar> yeah
30:15 <Avatar> what happened to that old man
31:52 <Ballig> what old man
32:24 <Avatar> the tarrasque
32:42 <Avatar> did he just do a runner
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33:26 <Ballig> you realise the tarrasque is not an old man, right
33:46 <Avatar> of course he is
33:58 <Avatar> he's old and he's male isn't he
34:03 <Avatar> is the tarrasque a girl?
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34:30 <Avatar> I figured he was a guy since he couldn't reproduce
34:50 <Ballig> it actually runs a rampage through the area then settles down for a nap
35:01 <Avatar> can it be woken
35:07 <Avatar> easily
35:15 <Mort> urm?
35:16 <Mort> gawd
35:35 <Avatar> sorry is my talk about the tarrasque's gender sexist
36:49 <Sachiru> I read how the tarrasque was once in essence a giant living computer that needed enormous amounts of feeding, and rampaged when the civilization that created it stopped feeding it, resulting in the death of said civilization.
36:55 <Ballig> yeah it can be woken easily
37:15 <Avatar> didn't we wake it the first time
37:20 <Avatar> bloody 
37:24 <Avatar> whatshisname went right up to it
37:35 <Avatar> arctanx
38:03 <Avatar> I remember seeing CA with the tarrasque in the room
38:10 <Avatar> and thinking ooooo this could be bad
38:19 <Avatar> like nobody move a muscle
39:30 <Mekkis> you can still coup de grace it, right?
39:34 <Ballig> you didn't wake it
39:36 <Ballig> it was being controlled
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39:54 <Avatar> why did arctanx go up to it
40:03 <Avatar> wait, you can control a tarrasque?
40:07 <Ballig> you were attacked by the guy controlling it
40:15 <Mekkis> Avatar, in a way...
40:20 <Avatar> okay here is what we do next time we play PFS
40:24 <Avatar> we find the tarrasque
40:24 <Ballig> they were controlling it to bust through adamantine bands to reach this huge vault full of devils
40:24 <Mekkis> with the correct application of an artifact
40:25 <Avatar> and control it
40:28 <Ballig> which you were like one day away from being released
40:41 <Avatar> one day of how many days
40:49 <Ballig> I think you have a week from when you enter the area
41:01 <Ballig> after a week they break into the vault, and the devils start kicking some ass and take over
41:03 <Avatar> how do you keep something like that a secret
41:19 <Avatar> like it would be cooler if we knew about it in-game
41:30 <Mekkis> you did know about it
41:42 <Ballig> there are hints in the area, I gave a lot when Arctanx' cleric cast that spell to talk to his deity
41:43 <Mekkis> Greyknight called a Planetar to tell him about it
41:45 <Ballig> or the planar ally or whatever it was
42:00 <Mekkis> Greyknight
42:04 <Mekkis> and Greater Planar Ally
42:08 <Ballig> yeah
42:22 <Ballig> knowing that those campaigns tend not to give decent hints, I allowed that to be a good way to give them
42:28 <Avatar> er, really
42:31 <Mekkis> yeah
42:31 <Ballig> yeah
42:37 <Mekkis> especially on IRC
42:38 <Avatar> I don't remember him telling us
42:42 <Mekkis> it's harder to give hints
42:45 <Avatar> all I remember is you bastards wanting my ring
42:56 <Ballig> at least they didn't steal your magic rapier
43:01 <Avatar> I'm glad I wrote the article 
43:03 <Ballig> and piss off into the ethereal plane with it
43:10 <Avatar> better my rapier than my ring
43:14 <Avatar> my precious
43:21 <Ballig> I actually get some hits from google for people searching for world's largest dungeon
43:26 <Ballig> one of the benefits of articles
43:41 <Ballig> a natural way to accrue potential search terms
43:54 <Avatar> I generally have the idea that people don't really like reading those articles
44:11 <Avatar> like when you write it, you want it to be a pretty epic read
44:13 <Avatar> or people just won't bother
44:30 <Ballig> I don't care if people read them
44:31 <Avatar> for us it's good because we all know what we're talking about
44:37 <Ballig> I want them to raise my ranking on google search terms
45:24 <Avatar> doing PFS games is making writing articles harder
45:41 <Avatar> because it's laden with spoilers if it's a DM feature or player's perspective
46:26 <Mort> oh gosh
46:27 <Mort> :D
46:31 * Mort drifts in and out of hcannel
46:34 <Mort> thakn goodness..
46:38 <Mort> wars ending soon
46:40 <Avatar> yeah it will be spoiled for mort
46:42 <Avatar> who doesn't play
46:44 <Mort> god damn at least I odnt have to be a night owl
46:51 <Mort> and at least I should have more free time
46:53 <Avatar> that's still your new name you realise
46:54 <Avatar> night owl
46:59 <Mort> I dont want ot be an ight owl
47:02 <Mort> Im a lark
47:03 <Mort> not an owl
47:04 <Avatar> yeah but you are
47:08 <Avatar> what is a lark
47:08 <Mort> OH YES...
47:09 <Mort> FREEE
47:11 <Mort> AT LAST!!!
47:16 <Avatar> you can be an owl who is free
47:17 <Mort> someone who wakes up at6 am in the morning
47:20 <Avatar> I won't cage yo up
47:20 <Mekkis> yeah
47:22 <Mort> any games at this time
47:23 <Mort> on weekends?
47:24 <Avatar> if you behave
47:25 <Mort> soorry
47:26 <Mort> weekdays
47:27 <Mort> ahem :D
47:31 <Mort> weekends Im out partyign maybe
47:33 <Avatar> we played two games today
47:49 <Avatar> I think we started one while you were in here
47:57 <Mekkis> Avatar, I really liked playing Jasim... he seemed to get a lot more character than many of my characters
47:58 <Mort> yeah I know
47:59 <Mort> Im on and off :D
48:03 <Mort> whos jasim?
48:04 <Ballig> you can't go out partying on the weekends and then complain about not playing any games
48:09 <Avatar> hahaha
48:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
48:10 <Mort> yeah the problme is I keep partying :D
48:22 <Ballig> that's your choice
48:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> hmm... think we could play a level 1 game during the day soon?
48:46 <Avatar> mekkis if LSK didn't go on for 18 months I probably would've allowed more freedom in letting you play out your backstory
48:50 <Avatar> I didn't even expect it to go for 6 months
48:53 <Mekkis> heh
49:35 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2_: I'm happy to run We Be Goblins and/or First Steps sometime this week
49:35 <Avatar> the irony is that the campaign I did before LSK would've absolutely done what you wanted
49:53 <Ballig> pretty sure Thelen and Brunius both haven't done We Be Goblins
50:06 <Avatar> yeah get them two and one more
50:10 <Avatar> mort
50:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd like wednesday
50:18 <Avatar> can imagine mort playing a goblin
50:26 <Ballig> yeah she'd be good
50:32 <Ballig> you know that she'd be busting out the song
50:40 <Avatar> come play a goblin mort
51:13 <Mort> goblin? :P
51:14 <Mort> lol?
51:19 <Mort> I have some weird traits
51:26 <Avatar> yeah in this scenario you get to play a goblin character
51:49 <Mort> oh my :D
51:53 * Mort perks ears up
52:52 <Mort> but I play more like an orc
52:55 <Ballig> you realise you aren't a cat, right
52:56 <Mort> then a gobblin :P
53:00 <Mort> urm..
53:01 <Mort> Im an orc.
53:03 * Mort rawrs
53:08 <Mort> I have. identity problems atm.
53:11 <Ballig> orcs don't have perky ears or roar
53:12 <Ballig> :p
53:15 * Mort has a huge battle axe
53:19 <Mort> they do..?
54:25 <Mort> sorry. I really have identity problems atm
54:28 <Mort> I believe I am an orc.
54:40 <Avatar> in we be goblins you don't play your own character
54:44 <Avatar> you play a goblin ! someone else
54:52 <Mort> ah k
54:56 <Mort> goblins are sneaky
54:58 <Mort> and cowardly :P
55:29 <Mekkis> not really cowardly
55:39 <Mekkis> either really brave or really stupid !
55:56 <Ballig> or both
55:58 <Mort> I read about goblins in forgotten realms
56:06 <Mort> dark elf trilogy..
56:16 <Mort> goblins generally run if things dont look good
56:34 <Mekkis> ah
56:37 <Mekkis> but when they do!
56:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so basically you play a goblin premade?
56:53 <Mort> all it takes
56:56 <Mort> is one Dark elf ranger
57:00 <Mort> to send them running in all directions
57:04 <Mekkis> ah
57:05 <Mort> and peeing on their pants :P
57:11 <Mekkis> but that's a drow ranger
57:25 <Mekkis> who's about 8 levels higher than them
57:30 <Mekkis> (at that point, I guess)
58:10 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2_: yep
58:21 <Avatar> it is super crazy fun
59:02 <Ballig> you apply the credit to a character you own who is level 1 or 2
59:05 <Mort> not ot mention
59:14 <Mort> they like to backstab people with spears
59:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> avatar, do you skim read EVERYTHING?
59:23 <Mekkis> even Snypt liked it !
59:23 <Ballig> the rogue ones do
59:24 <Avatar> you're better off running first steps through level 1 and then playing we be goblins at level 2
59:28 <Mort> in some stories(not forgotten realms though), they spit poison
59:30 <Avatar> what
59:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the health thing
59:35 <Avatar> snypt liked everything we played
59:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> XD
59:39 <Ballig> Mekkis: do you have to apply a chronicle sheet straight away
59:42 <Avatar> that had to do with the setup of my char sheet
59:49 <Ballig> or can someone play We  Be Goblins, then play first steps 1-3, then apply We Be Goblins at level 2
59:51 <Avatar> which is actually fixed on my other sheets but not this one because it's an older one
59:52 <Mekkis> for DM cred? No
59:56 <Mekkis> not sure about that
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