// #d&d — 2011-12-02
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08:11:41 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 10am (Mekkis) | CoTE: Sun 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
08:11:41 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Fri Dec 2 07:44:23 2011
08:12:41 <Mekkis_znc> I'm back
08:21:08 <Avatar> thank god
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08:42:39 <Mekkis_znc> my server went down, and the provider gave me access to a completely different machine
08:42:54 <Mekkis_znc> vps1.1replicawatches.com
08:46:28 <Avatar-> is that yours
08:46:31 <Mekkis_znc> no
08:46:51 <Avatar-> it doesn't work
08:47:00 <Mekkis_znc> 1replicawatches.com does
08:47:15 <Mekkis_znc> anyway, they gave me KVMP access to it
08:47:36 <Mekkis_znc> (keyboard, video, mouse and power)
09:03:51 <Mekkis_znc> ok, blast templates work now
09:05:31 <Mekkis_znc> just need to get the UI working
09:06:10 <Avatar-> so really it's not working
09:09:00 <Mekkis_znc> it's working
09:09:34 <Mekkis_znc> I can create templates, save templates, load templates, transmit templates, receive templates and delete templates
09:09:50 <Mekkis_znc> what I can't do is right click on a menu button to select the template size
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11:07:32 <MekkisScreen> moin
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17:22:26 <MekkisScreen> hey Brunius
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17:55:43 <Mekkis_znc> Ballig, should virtual CAGraphicsItem* Parse() take QString* or const char* ?
17:56:10 <Ballig> can you think of a reason for it to take const char
17:56:41 <Mekkis_znc> it makes some forms of parsing easier
17:56:46 <Mekkis_znc> and other forms harder
17:56:55 <Ballig> which forms of parsing will be easier
17:57:04 <Mekkis_znc> sscanf-based parsing
17:58:44 <Ballig> is there a reason to use that
18:00:54 <Mekkis_znc> if you're using sprintf-based transmit(), it's nice how the format strings can be identical
18:01:20 <Ballig> is that what's being used
18:01:40 <Mekkis_znc> it some cases... I think CALine even uses it
18:02:32 <Ballig> should it maybe be defined to use both
18:02:59 <Ballig> maybe two parse functions that can sort and then use a third function to do all the common stuff
18:03:34 <Mekkis_znc> I don't think that's a good idea: it's not hard to switch between a QString and a const char*
18:03:51 <Mekkis_znc> so it's best to choose one and stick with it
18:04:02 <Mekkis_znc> sorry, QString*
18:04:06 <Ballig> well, can't a parse(QString*) be defined and it simply switches to const char and sends it through to the other one?
18:04:11 <Mekkis_znc> yes
18:04:16 <Mekkis_znc> and vice versa
18:04:17 <Ballig> do you think that's unwise?
18:05:11 <Mekkis_znc> because Parse is overridden by each individual item, they need to have the same signature
18:06:21 <Mekkis_znc> I think QString* is a better choice, as it doesn't have encoding issues
18:06:30 <Ballig> nod
18:06:42 <Ballig> might just require making things consistent
18:07:02 <Mekkis_znc> naturally
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18:08:35 <Avatar-> mekkis you there
18:09:11 <Ballig> he is
18:10:38 <Avatar-> what does haley do for work
18:11:21 <Mekkis_znc> why are you asking?
18:11:26 <Mekkis_znc> are you stalking her?
18:11:42 <Mekkis_znc> I believe she works at a nightclub
18:11:50 <Ballig> who's haley
18:12:04 <Mekkis_znc> she played with us at unicon
18:12:13 <Ballig> is she hot
18:12:24 <Mekkis_znc> yes, and taken
18:12:36 <Ballig> a hot (single) girl asked me to a party tomorrow
18:12:42 <Ballig> I said no so that I can play PFS with you guys
18:12:45 <Mekkis_znc> !
18:13:50 <Ballig> okay that's not strictly true. I said no because I'm going to the gym at that time
18:14:14 <Ballig> (it's an afternoon/evening/sleepover booze-fest barbecue)
18:15:11 <Avatar-> someone who looks like her recognised me and I didn't recognise her
18:15:37 <Avatar-> and I'm in a theatre restaurant where people are dressed as witches
18:15:57 <Ballig> why are they dressed as witches
18:17:33 <Mekkis_znc> I'm thinking of being really lazy and having CAConeTemplate inheriting CABlastTemplate
18:18:07 <Ballig> can you give me a screenshot of how a blast template looks
18:18:25 <Mekkis_znc> yep
18:21:55 <Mekkis_znc> nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/blastTemplate.png
18:22:00 <Mekkis_znc> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/blastTemplate.png
18:22:17 <Ballig> ahhh it creates lines
18:22:38 <Ballig> there's no way to fill that in with some transparent colour is there?
18:22:40 <Mekkis_znc> it can shade the area if that's the effect wanted
18:22:40 <Avatar-> because it's a theatre restaurant
18:23:09 <Ballig> it would be interesting to see how it would look with a shade of transparent colour
18:23:10 <Mekkis_znc> that's using WoTC-based templates
18:23:28 <Mekkis_znc> (octagonal)
18:23:50 <Ballig> it'll be useful I think
18:24:25 <Mekkis_znc> I was considering using circular templates, but I'm not sure how much it really matters
18:24:59 <Ballig> well, technically, should K11 be included in that blast?
18:25:08 <Ballig> a circular template would cut through the middle of it right?
18:26:55 <Mekkis_znc> that's not exactly what I was referring to: the difference between WoTC templates and circular templates is only really apparent at larger sizes (8 squares or even more)
18:27:25 <Ballig> ahh
18:29:22 <Mekkis_znc> still trying to find a nice way to programmatically draw templates
18:34:21 <Avatar-> yep it's her
18:34:34 <Avatar-> I guess I am stalking her
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18:42:12 <Ballig_> guess I can connect with my phone until I'm done
18:54:24 <Ballig> fuck, sore
18:54:40 <Ballig> Avatar: I told you that's not what I said to him, stop putting your shit in my mouth
19:06:59 <Mekkis_znc> what card is it?
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19:23:40 <Ballig> woot, three displays
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19:25:40 <Ballig> Brunius: what videocard do you have
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19:59:20 <Ballig> Brunius
20:01:25 <Brunius> Ballig.
20:01:31 <Ballig> what videocard do you have
20:07:04 <MekkisScreen> what card did you end up getting?
20:07:13 <Ballig> radeon 6950
20:07:21 <Ballig> I wanted a 6970 but it was hard enough finding a 6950 in canberra
20:07:44 <MekkisScreen> auspcmarket's pretty good: they courier deliver
20:09:30 <Ballig> courier delivery is nice (work shits a brick if you get anything delivered by post, especially electronics - sets off bomb scares and shit)
20:10:16 <MekkisScreen> I got my 8800GT from them, back when they were $390 and rare as hen's teeth
20:10:35 <Brunius> I've got an nVidia GeForce 8400 GS, Ballig
20:10:36 <Brunius> Why?
20:10:49 <Ballig> because I now have a spare geforce 9800 GTX+
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20:12:09 <MekkisScreen> you're not running two cards?
20:12:17 <Ballig> I don't know that I can be bothered
20:12:28 <Brunius> You should run SLI man
20:12:43 <Ballig> can you even SLI two different cards
20:12:44 <MekkisScreen> it's probably not worth the hassle going ATI+NVidia
20:13:01 <Brunius> I'm not sure, Ballig
20:13:12 <Brunius> I'm just making crap up and trying to sound intelligent
20:13:19 <Ballig> ha
20:13:38 <MekkisScreen> how big a PSU do you use?
20:13:52 <Brunius> Standard ATX form factor
20:14:02 <Ballig> probably only just big enough to run one card
20:14:06 <MekkisScreen> as in real watt rating
20:14:26 <Brunius> Wait, who?
20:14:32 <Brunius> I'm getting two chats confused
20:15:13 <Ballig> when I had this computer made it was an 800 watt ATX power supply (Tagan 2Force-II series TG800-U33)
20:15:25 <Ballig> but that only lasted like a month before burning out and I bought another, but I think it was the same specs
20:24:21 <Mekkis_znc> ah
20:24:34 NickOP sets mode +r Mekkis
20:31:38 <Mekkis> Brunius, Ballig, Avatar: are you interested in doing more beginner box bash stuff while you can still get the boons?
20:32:14 <Ballig> maybe
20:32:56 <Mekkis> FYI: the boon is a free raise
20:33:14 <Ballig> what would prevent us getting the boon
20:33:38 <Mekkis> not playing all four before December 16 or so
20:33:50 <Ballig> why is there a time limit on it
20:34:18 <Mekkis> because that's when the scenarios go public
20:46:46 <Brunius> I haven't done any beginner box bash scenarios
20:47:02 <Brunius> Avatar: Dungeon of Magic are running them tomorrow. You going?
20:47:28 <Ballig> Mekkis asks if you want to play them, so you try to see if Avatar wants to go somewhere and play them with you instead?
20:47:34 <Brunius> Yes :P
20:47:38 <Ballig> that's pretty low man
20:47:39 <Brunius> Have you guys already done one?
20:47:40 <Ballig> what's up with that shit
20:47:44 <Brunius> Or two?
20:47:45 <Ballig> "I will leave the house and play PFS elsewhere!"
20:47:48 <Ballig> no
20:48:02 <Ballig> we tried to duo one
20:48:04 <Ballig> it was suicide
20:48:06 <Brunius> So you haven't done any in the channel?
20:48:31 <Brunius> Yeah, I guess I'd be in for that
20:48:32 <Brunius> Skype?
20:48:43 <Ballig> it wouldn't be right now, Avatar is at a restaurant
20:48:45 <Ballig> with his dole money
20:48:59 <Brunius> I know not now
20:49:01 <Brunius> :S
20:49:08 <Brunius> That bludger
20:49:21 <Ballig> I know, spending my taxes on a steak someone else cooked for him
20:53:19 <Mekkis> they take about an hour
20:53:21 <Mekkis> less if you TPK
20:54:11 <Brunius> Yeah, that's the claim
20:54:15 <Brunius> So about a week on IRC?
20:54:47 <Mekkis> about 90 minutes on IRC
20:54:59 <Mekkis> you get to !vchargen for stats!
20:55:05 <Brunius> !vchargen
20:55:06 <diebot> Brunius, 11(6,3,1,2), 7(3,3,1,1), 17(6,5,1,6), 17(4,5,6,6), 13(5,2,1,6), 6(3,2,1,1)
21:01:36 <Ballig> my triceps are going to be so fucked tomorrow
21:02:27 <Brunius> Ha
21:02:33 <Brunius> Have fun
21:03:10 <Ballig> yeah I already had my fun, that's why they're going to be fucked
21:03:14 <Ballig> especially my right one, it's tight as shit
21:05:08 <Avatar-> what
21:05:19 <Avatar-> I'm trying to pick up another player
21:05:31 <Ballig> is he hot
21:05:31 <Mekkis> who?
21:05:43 <Avatar-> haley!
21:05:53 <Avatar-> have you been listening
21:05:56 <Mekkis> yes
21:06:13 <Avatar-> and yes I'm keen on beginner box boons
21:06:28 <Mekkis> I might run something one weeknight
21:06:32 <Avatar-> and brunius had best show
21:06:51 <Mekkis> !vchargen
21:06:52 <diebot> Mekkis, 9(2,4,2,3), 11(6,2,3,2), 17(4,5,6,6), 14(1,5,3,6), 18(6,6,6,3), 13(1,6,5,2)
21:06:56 <Mekkis> hn
21:07:19 <Avatar-> is ballig going to make a weeknight exception for it
21:07:31 <Avatar-> or several shorter sessions
21:07:34 <Ballig> why does it have to be a weeknight
21:08:42 <Brunius> I can't play Sunday
21:08:49 <Brunius> I've already got stuff booked sunday
21:08:50 <Ballig> why, are you playing at good games
21:08:53 <Brunius> Yes :P
21:09:00 <Ballig> "sorry, can't play PFS sunday. playing PFS."
21:09:08 <Brunius> Yep
21:09:14 <Ballig> Scumbag Brunius
21:09:34 <Brunius> If I'm not GGing I'll be Nerfing
21:15:28 <Mekkis> they'll be short sessions
21:15:35 <Mekkis> maybe 90 minutes
21:22:06 <Ballig> I need one of those things that holds up three monitors
21:23:08 <Brunius> lol
21:23:32 <Brunius> A desk?
21:23:35 <Ballig> no
21:24:08 <Ballig> http://www.ht.com.au/part/Y4022-Aavara-Professional-Series-TS743-stand-ExperTorque-/detail.hts
21:25:59 <Mekkis> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Triple-LCD-Monitor-Stand-Holds-up-21-Monitors-NEW-/250798124849?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a64bbaf31
21:26:17 <Ballig> only holds up to 21"
21:26:23 <Ballig> pretty sure all three of my monitors are bigger than that
21:27:19 <Ballig> the one I linked can be upgraded to a 6 monitor display at a later point
21:27:44 <Mekkis> nice
21:28:12 <Ballig> people would be jealous of a 6 display setup
21:28:45 <Mekkis> is that why you want one?
21:29:01 <Ballig> nah, I don't particularly plan on going to 6 displays
21:29:51 <Mekkis> I didn't see you as one of those people who buys computer hardware to make people jealous of him
21:30:17 <Ballig> it's why I do everything
21:31:15 <Brunius> Ha
21:31:29 <Brunius> I found one of khaznub's gravestones under lava
21:31:46 <Ballig> what
21:34:43 <Brunius> You get gravestones when you die in terraria now
21:34:48 <Brunius> I drained some lava and found one
21:37:02 <Mekkis> there should be a switch that turns on realistic lava physics
21:37:11 <Mekkis> (as in, convection kills you)
21:38:09 <Brunius> Totally.
21:44:15 <Mekkis> Ballig, did I give you 04Ballig?
21:44:47 <Ballig> I don't think so
21:45:51 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/04Ballig.pdf
21:47:27 <Ballig> thanks
22:01:19 <Mekkis> I've got another boon for you guys too
22:01:27 <Ballig> is it awesome
22:01:59 <Brunius> Night yo
22:02:03 <Brunius> Is it the festival one?
22:02:04 <Ballig> tata jerk
22:05:42 <Mekkis> ja
22:09:37 <Brunius> Got one from Darkwhite already
22:09:41 <Mekkis> it's surprising how close the wotc circle is to Bresenham's circle algorithm
22:09:43 <Brunius> Can I get another? :D
22:09:56 <Mekkis> ask him
22:10:04 <Brunius> I will.
22:10:43 <Brunius> This hard disk crunching really doesn't sound health
22:10:46 <Brunius> healthy*
22:12:08 <Mekkis> HDDs are expensive now
22:13:27 <Brunius> Oh?
22:14:48 <Mekkis> yeah
22:15:08 <Mekkis> WD lost 70% of capacity in the floods in Thailand
22:15:13 <Mekkis> or wherever it was
22:15:27 <Brunius> Oh
22:15:27 <Brunius> That
22:41:39 <Mekkis> Ballig, you want something like this?
22:41:41 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/blastTemplateFireballVictims.png
22:42:04 <Ballig> that's pretty good, I like that
22:42:46 <Mekkis> that's with an alpha of 40
22:43:04 <Ballig> I think it works well
22:44:26 <Mekkis> should the edges of a radius be allowed to fall off the map?
22:44:30 <Mekkis> I'm thinking so
22:44:44 <Ballig> yeah I could see it getting in the way otherwise
22:45:37 <Ballig> off to bed
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22:52:31 <Avatar> Brunius: are you crazy
22:52:35 <Avatar> do not let your brother onto the terraria server
22:55:13 <Mekkis> Brunius, are you crazy? I sent that PC down for you, not your brother ;S
22:59:01 <Mekkis> Should the user be notified if an unimplemented item is sent?
22:59:33 <Mekkis> (that is, an item that's implemented in the server, but not on the client)
23:00:14 <Mekkis> "An unimplemented item was received. Maybe you should upgrade?"
23:04:06 <Avatar> if you do, make the language friendlier
23:04:46 <Avatar> "You need to upgrade to see something being sent to you. Click OK to download the latest version of Combat Assistant now."
23:04:50 <Avatar> or something
23:06:27 <Mekkis> hmmm
23:06:44 <Mekkis> how about we get it to talk to a server somewhere to track usage
23:06:59 <Mekkis> I mean, Bossman uses it: I wonder who else does
23:08:49 <Avatar> isn't that invasive
23:08:58 <Avatar> I mean
23:09:20 <Avatar> if you had the option to use anonymous usage statistics on anything, would you say yes to it
23:09:25 <Avatar> I think you wouldn't
23:09:35 <Avatar> mr paranoia :P
23:33:35 <Mekkis> we do it on our software at work
23:44:24 <Avatar> but would you say yes
23:44:36 <Avatar> you're the user
23:44:50 <Avatar> consider that it isn't ballig's, it's just some stranger's application
23:46:41 <Mekkis> if asked, probably not
23:47:03 <Mekkis> but I don't take special steps to prevent an application from doing so
23:49:54 <Avatar> so you don't even think they should be asked
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