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09:57 <Horace^Myrthit> Alright, I have to reboot. Peace. I'll be around later. 
17:07 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 22nd 7pm, Sat & Sun 10am (Avatar) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
17:07 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Thu Dec 22 20:56:40 2011
17:07 <***> Buffer Playback...
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26:11 <Avatar> limbo
26:13 <Avatar> oh, you're gone
27:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> thinking of more games to buy in the steam sale
27:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> any suggestions?
28:37 <Mekkis> Ballig, what issues are there that you want me to work on ironing out in the ca code?
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15:03 <Ballig> Mekkis: the cell size issue, I think I kn ow where the problem is though
15:11 <Ballig> and I'm almost finished with background offsets
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55:18 <Nanashi-Chan> Hmm the pathfinder seems a lot like you need to play by the rules and you wont keep the expensive itens you find either? Or you get to keep the loot from the mobs or am i missing something?
56:19 <Ballig> pathfinder society you don't keep the loot, you get gold instead
56:26 <Ballig> and can use gold to buy the loot back from the society if you want it
58:36 <Avatar> don't you want to play by the rules
01:05 <Nanashi-Chan> Playing by the rules can be fun ;) but sometimes when the rules are just screaming someone to break them a bit 
01:15 <Ballig> how would you break them
02:13 <Nanashi-Chan> Well at the moment i just read this and that from the campaing setting, so no full idea about the world.
02:39 <Ballig> do you have an example of other settings where you would have broken the rules and in what way you would break them?
03:57 <Nanashi-Chan> Well in free roam campaings we had less of a rules and more of "ok, you are not doing that" by other players.
04:27 <Nanashi-Chan> Sometimes we ended some really shady areas with necromancy and some creative banditry for example.
05:48 <Nanashi-Chan> But as i read the pathfinder there seems to be some organization making sure you stay in the "lawfull" side of things most of the time, and the "hey lets go there?" options are more limited.
06:44 <Ballig> you have missions, that's the point of the scenarios
06:51 <Ballig> you can go off track but might not get any experience or prestige for it
06:55 <Ballig> you don't have to be lawful, but you can't be evil
10:32 <Nanashi-Chan> Well need to read more to determine if i like the setting or not :) in the end its not much different than SR system of getting jobs i assume.
13:28 <Avatar> it seems restrictive when you start off, but once you start you won't care about that
13:30 <Ballig> I suggest giving it a shot
13:36 <Ballig> once you play a scenario and see how detailed they can get, you might enjoy it
31:29 <Avatar> you'd get experience regardless
32:30 <Ballig> I'm not sure that's true
38:50 <Avatar> you just don't get prestige
42:57 <Ballig> so if you look at your faction mission and decide it's going to require a skill you don't have
43:05 <Ballig> you can just say "screw this", get exp, and not play the scenario?
43:40 <Avatar> what do you mean not play it
43:51 <Ballig> well if you can go off and do your own thing and ignore the mission and still get exp
44:00 <Ballig> can't you decide to just not do the mission and not play the scenario and still get exp
44:05 <Avatar> well what is your own thing if it's not the mission
44:12 <Ballig> that's what he's talking about
44:40 <Avatar> okay, so what is it
44:44 <Ballig> anything
44:54 <Ballig> instead of going and exploring the museum, for example, you decide to go and explore the sewers
44:56 <Ballig> kill some giant rats
45:02 <Ballig> then call it a day
45:17 <Avatar> I'd find a way to kill him off
45:38 <Ballig> might have people calling shenanigans on you if you're out killing off pathfinder society characters as a GM
45:48 <Avatar> he doesn't want to go have a look around the museum? he finds a tarrasque instead
46:04 <Ballig> yeah I'd be placing reports against you for that
46:13 <Avatar> he wasn't following the mission
46:17 <Avatar> nobody will care
46:30 <Ballig> where is it in the rules that says you can rule-0 death people for not following the mission?
46:43 <Avatar> well the alternative is to split the party and leave him 
46:48 <Avatar> bit dull
46:53 <Ballig> what if everyone went with him
47:04 <Avatar> then I guess the tarrasque gets a big meal today
47:22 <Avatar> well a small meal really, bad example
47:46 <Ballig> yeah, you'd get 4 reports against you
47:53 <Ballig> pretty sure you aren't allowed to kill people off for not going to the museum
50:39 <Avatar> what happens instead then
50:55 <Ballig> you tell me
50:56 <Avatar> probably exp and no prestige !
51:05 <Ballig> why would they get exp?
51:09 <Avatar> RAW, that's how it works
51:13 <Avatar> you get exp just for playing
51:19 <Ballig> but are you playing the scenario?
51:22 <Ballig> if you never do the mission?
51:23 <Avatar> and prestige from completing the mission and completing the side mission
51:31 <Avatar> yes
51:38 <Ballig> you can get 0 prestige even if you complete the main mission
51:50 <Avatar> no you can't?
51:51 <Ballig> so what motivation do you have to complete the mission if you fail your side mission for the prestige?
51:54 <Ballig> er, yes you can
51:58 <Avatar> example
51:59 <Ballig> I've played plenty of scenarios where I got 0 prestige
52:07 <Avatar> the later scenarios
52:20 <Avatar> that was why they changed how it works
52:20 <Ballig> oh now you're adding provisos?
52:29 <Avatar> originally you had 2 side missions
52:35 <Avatar> now you just have 1
52:57 <MekkisScreen> oin
53:02 <Avatar> shalom !!
53:57 Brunius ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
54:08 <Brunius> Hey guys
54:20 <MekkisScreen> hey
55:55 <Avatar> are you playing brunius
56:03 <Brunius> If possible
56:13 <Avatar> everyone, round of applause for brunius
56:20 <Avatar> achievement unlocked! brunius plays pfs
56:36 <Ballig> haha
56:44 <Brunius> ...
56:55 <Avatar> this is something of a special occasion
56:57 <Brunius> I was in the first game of PFS in this channel, if you remember
57:06 <Avatar> ah but you haven't played in a while
57:20 <Brunius> Yeah, because the games take too long
58:41 <Avatar> I should warn you this looks like a longer scenario than usual
58:47 <Avatar> but I may be wrong
59:17 <Brunius> Meh
00:25 <Avatar> was thelen opting out today
01:04 <Avatar> I'd love having a 4th player instead of dealing with a pregen
06:31 <Mekkis> mmm
07:14 <Avatar> what characters would you like to use today
07:26 <Brunius> Who's around?
07:38 <Avatar> you three
07:38 <Ballig> I'm here
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07:50 <Avatar> oh, maybe horace
07:55 <Avatar> you playing today
07:58 <Ballig> whoreace
07:58 <Ballig> :o
08:00 <Brunius> Horace^Myrthit, are you up for some sweet PFS?
08:05 <Avatar> some sweet, sweet PFS
08:07 <Horace^Myrthit> Yep
08:11 <Horace^Myrthit> that's why I'm here
08:18 <Avatar> what class are you
08:22 <Horace^Myrthit> that's why I've been in here trolling you mother fuckers for the last week
08:27 <Horace^Myrthit> Wizard!
08:29 <Avatar> love it
08:35 <Horace^Myrthit> How much is a spellbook, though?
08:41 <Horace^Myrthit> lol, I never put one on my sheet
08:44 <Avatar> something like 8gp
08:44 <Mekkis> 15gp
08:49 <Mekkis> I think you start with one for free though
08:51 <Avatar> yeah I always forget the spellbook too
08:55 <Avatar> oh really?
09:02 <Ballig> you do I am pretty sure
09:05 <Ballig> if you are a wizard
09:18 <Avatar> okay so what classes are the rest of you jokers going to play
09:29 <Brunius> Tier?
09:31 <Avatar> and are we going to skype
09:32 <Avatar> 1-2
09:38 <Brunius> I don't have Skype on this comp atm
09:41 <Brunius> And don't have a mic
09:52 <Avatar> I'm indifferent, it's up to you guys
09:53 <Brunius> This one got format+reinstalled
10:27 <Mekkis> synthesist
10:34 <Brunius> summoner?
10:37 <Horace^Myrthit> I dont have a mic, and dont have skype
10:44 <Horace^Myrthit> I can dl skype though, prolly would be fast
10:52 <Avatar> have you downloaded CA
11:03 <Ballig> was my cleric in the middle of a game
11:20 <Avatar> I don't remember who you used in shades of ice
11:28 <Ballig> are we in the middle of shades of ice
11:32 <Avatar> yeah
11:40 <Ballig> that was my cleric I'm pretty sure
11:52 <Avatar> I think brunius is a cleric?
11:58 <Ballig> is that who he is playing
11:58 <Brunius> I've got a cleric, yeah
12:13 <Brunius> I can play Cleric Sorceror or Fighter with what I've got on hand
12:18 <Brunius> Or I can gen a new char
12:24 <Avatar> man you came prepared
12:44 <Brunius> I've just got loads of level 1 characters
14:28 <MekkisScreen> I have 2,3,4,5,9
15:16 <Horace^Myrthit> Okay, just updated the sheet. http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=331
15:50 <Brunius> I'd have to convert my fighter to text before I could play him
15:50 <Horace^Myrthit> Now what
16:06 <Avatar> if I can't see your sheet, you can't use him
16:18 <Brunius> Yeah that's why
16:19 <Horace^Myrthit> Well I would have hoped that my presence would have hyped you for this weeks game
16:26 <Ballig> do people want to try out the new version of CA
16:30 <Avatar> hell yes
16:34 <Ballig> keeping in mind there might be a few bugs
16:55 <Avatar> we can download the old one if worse comes to worse
16:59 <MekkisScreen> sure
17:15 <Ballig> yeah
17:50 <Avatar> man that is some good coffee 
18:29 <Ballig> http://www.ballig.net/DevCA-testVersion.zip
19:34 <Avatar> are those the only two files that are required to run it
19:39 <Ballig> yeah
20:34 <Avatar> 124.148.166.248
20:39 <Brunius> Jaggedsoul just got on skype
20:47 Avatar gives voice to Ballig Brunius Horace^Myrthit Mekkis
20:57 <Ballig> what classes do we have
20:57 <Avatar> quick before he gets here
21:03 Brunius is now known as Derau
21:08 Ballig is now known as Samsuhn
21:11 <Derau> I assume I'm playing Derau
21:23 <Samsuhn> shit I forgot to level Samsuhn
21:30 <Avatar> synthesist summoner, cleric, wizard and wizard
21:39 <Avatar> maybe we should get jaggedsoul
22:05 <Horace^Myrthit> So how do I log into the CA?
22:17 <Derau> copy avatar's IP into that field
22:24 <Derau> Put your name into the box
22:24 <Samsuhn> how many prestige was we be goblins
22:30 <Derau> Then hit "connect"
22:34 <Avatar> change your nick to your character name
22:49 <Nightmare> Samsuhn, 1
23:05 Horace^Myrthit is now known as Harold_Poitier
23:10 <Avatar> just your first name
23:21 Harold_Poitier is now known as Harold
23:36 <Avatar> ballig are you getting jaggedsoul
23:49 <Samsuhn> er
23:51 <Samsuhn> why is that my job
23:56 <Avatar> you're on skype
24:00 <Samsuhn> why arne't you
24:01 <Derau> And I don't have a mic
24:10 <Avatar> I assumed we weren't using it
24:42 <Avatar> I don't care, but your class mix is primarily spellcasters
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24:47 <Derau> Sup Jaggedsoul
24:53 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul: you playing today
24:58 <Jaggedsoul> happy holidays
24:59 <Nightmare> I am no primary spellcaster!
25:04 <Jaggedsoul> yea
25:04 <Derau> http://s3.amazonaws.com/data.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw8ouwHcdL1qdao0co1_1280.jpg T.T
25:18 <Avatar> that's not what I said mekkis
25:38 Avatar gives voice to Jaggedsoul
25:42 <Avatar> 124.148.166.248
25:47 <Avatar> change your nick
25:49 <Harold> do i dl skype? y o n?
26:00 <Derau> It looks like we aren't using skype
26:02 Jaggedsoul is now known as Gogg
26:13 <Avatar> we can if both of you want to and will download it
26:26 <Avatar> jaggedsoul doesn't have a mic either I think
26:42 <Harold> it only takes a sec, i can listen, but no mic
26:52 <Harold> lol
26:59 <Harold> who is gm'ing?
27:04 <Harold> do they have a mic?
27:04 <Avatar> I think you'd be listening to me, ballig and mekkis coming in and out 
27:09 <Harold> if so, I'd say its up to them
27:38 <Avatar> okay, let's begin 
27:56 <Avatar> With a thump, Venture-Captain Brackett sets a rounded granite stone on his desk. The stone is polished smooth and veined with shallow carvings reminiscent of constellations. 
27:56 <Avatar> “This is a LORESTONE, from the depths of the Verduran Forest. It’s rumored to hold all of the secrets of the druids of that ancient wood. Just over two years ago, a group of Pathfinders recovered this stone for us. We’re not much closer to cracking its secrets than we were on the day those agents put it into our hands, but we have gleaned one interesting bit of knowledge.
27:56 <Avatar> “The lorestone tells of a lengthy ritual using an artifact called the ATAVISTIC SPLINTER, a piece of charred bark touched by Gozreh himself. The ritual transforms humanoids into bestial creatures with preternatural resilience. We could use something with this kind of power for the upcoming Ruby Phoenix Tournament in Goka, so we need you to recover the Atavistic Splinter for us.
27:56 <Avatar> “We believe the artifact is near the gnome town of Wispil, deep in the Verduran Forest. A Pathfinder operative there — a gnome herbalist named Falbin — was investigating increased lycanthrope activity south of Wispil. Falbin discovered that a sinister cabal of druids in a compound called Briar Henge is using the  Atavistic Splinter to perform the ritual, probably to drive out the local 
27:56 <Avatar> loggers, but he couldn’t recover the Atavistic Splinter from the druids by himself. 
27:56 <Avatar> “Go to WISPIL and contact FALBIN there. He will provide you with directions to BRIAR HENGE and recent intelligence regarding the situation around Wispil. Then use this information to infiltrate Briar Henge and acquire the Atavistic Splinter.”
28:26 <Nightmare> so we're in Almas?
28:36 <Nightmare> or is Brackett out-of-town?
29:23 <Avatar> er
29:33 <Derau> "You say this operative was investigating lycanthrope activity? Are we likely to run into them?"
29:57 <Avatar> yeah he is in Almas
30:08 <Nightmare> "Who is Gozreth?"
30:37 <Nightmare> "I apologise, my religious knowledge might be somewhat lacking"
31:21 <Avatar> he doesn't know if you'll run into them or not, but guesses you might
32:18 <Samsuhn> so we're all in skype except avatar
32:20 <Samsuhn> that's useful
32:46 <Avatar> "GozREH is the dualistic god of nature, a god of the storm and sky and also a goddess of the wave and surf. A fickle deity."
32:47 <Harold> im not
32:53 <Samsuhn> why not
33:05 <Harold> was waiting on a decision if I should DL it
33:07 <Derau> Hang on grabbing headphones
33:08 <Harold> I'll get it
33:58 <Avatar> you get the impression that VC Brackett is extremely busy, having little time for foolish questions and dislikes having to repeat himself
35:07 <Nightmare> "One of my colleagues rescued you last year... and you can't even answer these questions?"
35:10 <Avatar> anyone with knowledge history or nature checks can make them
35:21 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 history
35:41 <Derau> Religion checks on the cult?
35:46 <Nightmare> can I make profession (gardener) checks?
35:55 <Nightmare> "What factions are at work here?"
36:36 <Avatar> "I'm not sure, you'll need to find out more about that from Falbin."
36:37 <Derau> I have one...
36:58 <Derau> Knowledge (Religion) checks?
37:14 <Nightmare> "How long would the trip be?"
37:26 <Derau> Alright
37:39 <Derau> Alright.
37:41 <Harold> (am I here?)
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37:44 <Derau> Nope
37:46 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 history
37:46 <diebot> Samsuhn, history: [1d20=6] 15
37:48 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 nature
37:49 <diebot> Samsuhn, nature: [1d20=14] 23
37:49 <Derau> Definetely not Harold
37:55 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
38:10 <Harold> skype is installing now
38:36 <Nightmare> oh, and for the record, I AM wearing an andoran T-Shirt...
38:45 <Derau> Heh
39:13 <Derau> brb finding a possibility for mic
39:31 <Avatar> "It will take almost two weeks to get to Wispil from here. The ritual itself takes several weeks, so you'd better be quick with your questions because if the druids finish their ritual, they might take the Atavistic Splinter away to some better-hidden location."
40:57 <Derau> Well
41:02 <Derau> Looks like that doesn't work
41:03 <Samsuhn> "We might come across some fey in the forest. There will probably be lycanthrope hunters there too."
41:21 <Harold> ok, skype is dld, can someone msg me some guideance plz?
41:32 <Samsuhn> do you have a skyp eaccount
41:35 <Avatar> what's your username harold
41:50 <Derau> Ha
42:06 <Harold> horace_myrthit
42:54 <Avatar> horace: do you have any knowledge checks
43:06 <Avatar> specifically nature/history
43:39 <Harold> yes and yes
43:47 <Avatar> roll them
43:51 <Derau> You guys getting that wierd sound?
43:57 <Avatar> make sure you specify which roll is for which check
44:13 <Derau> Right, looks like that mic doesn't work
44:18 <Gogg> that's the hornet
44:22 <Harold> I have nature
44:28 <Avatar> roll it
44:52 <Harold> !throw 1d20+9 nature
44:52 <diebot> Harold, nature: [1d20=16] 25
44:58 <Derau> Absolutely
46:11 <Gogg> "I hav no ledge."
46:37 <Derau> Challenge Accepted, Mekkis
47:18 <Derau> Yep
47:19 <Gogg> yes
47:20 <Harold> Wait
47:31 <Harold> I'm a little confused, been trying to get things in order
47:46 <Harold> were there questions regarding the info that I received from the check?
48:01 <Avatar> did you see my pm
48:11 <Nightmare> I'll buy a masterwork silver longspear to add to my collection.
48:13 <Derau> Hang on grabbing rulebook
48:16 <Avatar> you got some 'knowledge' out of what you've been told by Venture Captain Brackett
49:29 <Gogg> can I have my great axe coated with silver?
49:33 <Derau> I'm here
49:45 <Derau> Yeah looking up stuff in the rulebook
50:08 <Nightmare> Gogg, no, but you can buy another one
51:33 <Harold> Silver are always masterwork
51:53 <Derau> Ok, sent to you, Avatar
51:56 <Harold> I use the venturecaptain character generator to calculate costs
51:57 <Gogg> hmmm...I don't think I have enough gold
52:04 <Harold> its easy that way
53:31 <Derau> Yep
53:44 <Derau> I've already got cold iron and silver from previous scenarios
53:45 <Harold> NOpe
54:52 <Derau> I have to figure out where it's saved now :S
54:53 <Gogg> I'm buying a glaive
54:59 <Derau> dcc send again?
55:05 <Derau> Yeah
55:06 <Gogg> see if I can get a masterwork silver one
55:19 <Derau> Ok thanks
56:00 <Gogg> I dont have one yet
56:01 Nanashi-Chan has quit (Quit: )
56:22 <Derau> Yeah
56:25 <Derau> Get icechat
57:40 S711 has quit (Quit: For England, James?)
57:44 <Gogg> ok\
57:55 <Derau> Yeah
57:59 <Derau> Sounds about right
58:25 <Gogg> whatever faction Mekkis have
58:38 <Gogg> :)
59:20 <Derau> Taldor is awesome
59:30 <Derau> gg
59:40 <Nightmare> go Andoran!@
59:49 <Nightmare> you're in Andoran at the moment
00:25 <Harold> Andoran is the worst faction
00:38 <Harold> they're trying to trick you
01:05 * Nightmare whispers to Harold, "Maybe you should wait until we're not in Andoran before you proclaim that!"
01:09 <Derau> Heh
01:18 <Derau> Clicky keyboards are the best
01:24 <Harold> your accents are so thick
01:24 <Nightmare> Indeed
01:30 <Harold> I wasnt
01:32 <Derau> He hasn't said that in character, Nightmare
01:37 <Nightmare> oh well
01:47 <Harold> "I'm sorry, but I didnt say anything. I wasn't paying attention. Did you need something?"
01:55 <Derau> yeah
01:59 <Gogg> Harold
02:14 <Harold> ooc: my mic is burried away
02:17 <Nightmare> "Don't insult the Andorans. They may be misguided, but they mean well."
02:28 <Harold> ooc: Ill get one, though. 
02:44 <Derau> "Misguided? My friend, anything but what we do is misguided"
02:45 <Gogg> how much is a silver glaive?
02:59 * Harold chuckles, "Sir, I didn't hear anyone insulting Andoran. Are you well?"
03:15 <Nightmare> "You were thinking it. I could tell"
03:22 * Nightmare winks knowlingly
03:26 <Nightmare> knowingly
03:43 <Harold> "I was thinking about the paradigm between the internal and external axis of polarization."
03:57 <Gogg> what factions are not mentioned yet?
04:13 <Derau> I think it's pretty obvious that I'm Andoran by now
04:14 <Gogg> Chelliax
04:26 <Gogg> yep
04:38 <Harold> "All electromagnetic waves propagate perpendicular to their points of propogation. Everyone understands that much, I'd say."
04:57 <Derau> "This loony" Derau grins
05:12 <Gogg> Great Chilly Axe!
05:34 <Harold> OOC: only rivaled by the Chilly Axe Con Carne
05:47 <Harold> lol
05:49 <Avatar> Wispil is a bustling town built on a small scale—although humans and elves walk the streets, most buildings are built to accommodate the gnomes who live and work in Wispil. The scent of fresh-cut lumber wafts through the town. Falbin’s home is not difficult to find. It is situated on the south edge of the town, with a large garden spreading out behind it. Most of the garden is obscured by high 
05:49 <Avatar> growth, but the sound of a violent argument carries into the street. Although it is not yet dark, firelight glimmers from within the garden walls.
06:19 <Nightmare> tell me about the garden?
06:34 <Harold> OOC: there's also google docs. accounts are free, docs can easily be shared
07:35 <Harold> OOC: can we get an ooc channel going?
07:50 <Harold> OOC: I may have to ask for clarification during the game course
07:50 <Avatar> colours and hp please
07:52 <Derau> Anything not in quotes is OOC, Harold
07:56 <Derau> Yellow, 17
08:07 <Samsuhn> white, 12
08:07 <Gogg> brown 14/14
08:08 <Harold> Well, Nightmare gonna get me in trouble if I dont
08:20 <Harold> What's the color thing?
08:22 <Derau> Doing what?
08:29 <Derau> Gone?
08:36 <Samsuhn> just a colour you want for your character
08:50 <Derau> Bloody camera
08:51 <Nightmare> cyan
08:52 <Harold> Green 10
08:53 <Nightmare> medium
09:01 <Nightmare> 14/14|21/21
09:32 <Harold> can you tell if I'm logged into combat assistant?
09:40 <Harold> oh, der
09:42 <Harold> I can see it
10:32 <Harold> turn the book
11:00 <Harold> muck up the grid
11:29 <Derau> Naturally
11:47 <Harold> Ive been watching Salon Take Over with Tabitha Coffey to prepare.
11:50 <Harold> What are the triangles?
12:09 <Samsuhn> the triangles are flames
12:17 <Harold> wow
12:20 <Harold> its burning?
12:24 <Samsuhn> yeah
12:27 <Harold> festive
12:50 <Gogg> frontliner!
12:54 <Gogg> das me
13:17 <Harold> by the way. my real name is Tim. Please, use it whenever you like
13:27 <Harold> Timothy Ross
14:13 <Harold> P14
14:13 <Derau> I'll be near the front, but not at the front
14:15 <Harold> plz
15:01 <Samsuhn> "Lycanthrope hunters, probably."
15:32 <Avatar> roll initiative
15:35 <Derau> @init
15:36 <Nightmare> @init
15:36 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=1] 3
15:39 <Derau> Yeah!
15:42 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3
15:42 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+3: [1d20=1] 4
15:42 <Nightmare> !save init: 1d20+2
15:43 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2 saved as @init
15:44 <Nightmare> @init
15:45 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=3] 5
15:47 <Samsuhn> !save 1d20+3 init
15:55 <Derau> Ha
16:01 <Samsuhn> !save init: 1d20+3
16:01 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+3 saved as @init
16:23 <Derau> Yeah
16:37 <Harold> where is it listed?
16:40 <Derau> Maybe I should just tap it out in morse code
16:41 <Harold> on the sheet?
16:58 <Harold> I will, but not yet
17:08 <Harold> !roll 1d20+3 Harold Init
17:18 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-1 init
17:18 <diebot> Gogg, init: [1d20=3] 2
17:20 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Harold Init
17:20 <diebot> Harold, Harold Init: [1d20=17] 20
17:30 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
17:44 <Derau> Yeah, cos that's where you want good rolls
17:46 <Harold> Are they brandishing their weapons at us?
17:47 <Derau> in initiative
17:55 <Harold> I mean, is it obvious that we have to fight them?
18:02 <Derau> Bloody case
18:19 <Gogg> !save init:1d20-1
18:25 <Avatar> you arrived just as they knocked Falbin unconscious
18:40 <Avatar> they've seen you and they're after you now
18:47 <Gogg> !save init: 1d20-1
18:48 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20-1 saved as @init
18:54 <Harold> and thats a little fence there, we're next to the corner of it
19:24 <Gogg> who's the biggest guy?
19:41 <Gogg> who looks the meanest and baddest?
20:12 <Gogg> who has the most dangerous weapon?
20:22 <Gogg> ok
20:29 <Derau> They're identical triplits
20:37 <Derau> triplets, even
20:47 <Gogg> 3-plets!
20:48 <Derau> And matthew?
21:21 <Harold> okay, move to O10 and ready an action, cast color spray when they advance
21:43 <Harold> I want to wait until I can get as many of them as possible
21:44 <Derau> brb trying another option for mic
22:25 <Harold> ok\
22:45 <Harold> I wasnt sure if I could delay and ready
22:49 <Harold> right
22:55 <Harold> right
22:59 <Harold> and I lose my  20 init
23:15 <Harold> then I'll move, ready to cast when they are in range of my spell
24:29 <Derau> I can get a mic
24:32 <Avatar> what's your spell save DC on colour spray
24:36 <Derau> But I'd have to go through two phones
24:43 <Harold> 16?
24:53 <Harold> 5
24:58 <Harold> 10 + int + cl
25:03 <Harold> no
25:45 <Avatar> that guy goes unconscious
25:50 <Harold> not if you're gentle
26:24 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
26:25 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=15] 18
26:25 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
26:25 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=2] 5
26:40 <Harold> y
26:46 <Harold> 13
26:52 <Harold> yes, my ac is 13
26:52 <Avatar> !throw 1d8
26:53 <diebot> Avatar, 1d8: [1d8=7] 7
27:15 <Harold> I'm ducking under it
27:17 <Harold> lol
27:19 <Derau> Anyone else getting an echo?
27:19 <Harold> no, jk
27:56 <Harold> lol
28:08 <Harold> then I would have color sprayed an outhouse
28:08 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
28:11 <Derau> Heh
28:36 <Derau> Doo eet!
28:37 <Gogg> Derau I sometimes hear the echo 
28:38 <Nightmare> Cast Mage Armour
28:49 <Nightmare> and walk up to M9
28:51 <Nightmare> on self
29:14 <Nightmare> "Cease this assault. We can talk about this."
29:24 <Nightmare> end turn
29:34 <Derau> Yeah
29:36 <Derau> You can
29:58 <Avatar> they don't respond
30:01 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
30:14 <Samsuhn> "Are you lycanthrope hunters? We're looking to hunt some lycanthropes."
31:10 <Avatar> they won't say anything else until next round
31:37 <Samsuhn> !dist 25 20
31:37 <diebot> Samsuhn, Length of hypotenuse: 32.015621
32:09 <Samsuhn> I'll take a 5 foot step north and cast Daze on #1
32:46 <Avatar> he doesn't appear dazed
32:58 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
33:07 <Derau> If I fire at 1 from here, will he have cover?
33:41 <Derau> Alright
33:50 <Gogg> can I have a tshirt?
34:12 <Derau> I'll 5ft N and ready an action to shoot 1 if he attempts any offensive action
34:25 <Derau> W then
34:38 <Derau> Didn't you say the map was rotated 90 degrees?
34:40 <Derau> Ha
34:53 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
35:30 <Gogg> charge!
35:48 <Derau> Nice
36:23 <Gogg> move to L9
36:39 <Derau> Rule of cool?
36:48 <Avatar> standard action remains
37:08 <Gogg> "please, enough blood"
37:19 <Gogg> "we don't want to hurt you"
37:29 <Gogg> "but if you want..."
37:41 <Gogg> draw greataxe
37:58 <Derau> Yeah
38:01 <Avatar> your greataxe is drawn, standard action still remains
38:10 <Derau> That was annoying
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38:16 <Gogg> attack if 1 does
38:26 <Derau> Spaceshot, wanna play some sweet PFS?
38:37 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nup
38:38 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
38:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> XD
39:03 <Harold> 3 currently
39:23 <Avatar> "We'll be plenty self-sufficient on our own. But we can't let you escape."
39:29 <Harold> not a waste
39:34 <Harold> and you can east it
39:36 <Harold> er, eat it
40:01 <Gogg> who's the other Filipino guy btw?
40:07 <Harold> 5 foot step to N 11, Shift 5ft to M12  as a swift action, ready light crossbow
40:21 <Harold> Shift as Dimensional Door
40:27 <Harold> Hmm?
40:30 <Harold> What what what?
40:37 <Harold> Teleportation Specialization 
41:01 <Harold> Conjuration
41:10 <Harold> nope
41:13 <Harold> you're wrong
41:18 <Harold> teleportation sub specialization
41:19 <Derau> He's 8th Level!
41:20 <Harold> Shift
41:32 <Harold> I believe so
41:39 <Harold> SRD
41:46 <Harold> one moment
42:12 <Harold> no
42:15 <Harold> yes
42:36 <Nightmare>    Shift (Su): At 1st level, you can teleport to a nearby space
42:36 <Nightmare> as a swift action as if using dimension door. This movement
42:36 <Nightmare> does not provoke an attack of opportunity. You must be
42:36 <Nightmare> able to see the space that you are moving into. You cannot
42:36 <Nightmare> take other creatures with you when you use this ability
42:36 <Nightmare> (except for familiars). You can move 5 feet for every two
42:36 <Nightmare> wizard levels you possess (minimum 5 feet). You can use
42:36 <Nightmare> this ability a number of times per day equal to 3 + your
42:36 <Nightmare> Intelligence modif ier.
42:38 <Harold> yes. then the rest of my action I will draw.... to fire
42:54 <Harold> draw/load?
42:55 <Avatar> standard action remains
43:07 <Harold> okay, delay to see if I need to stick #1
43:11 <Harold> ?
43:13 <Harold> ok
43:17 <Harold> ready
43:22 <Harold> ready or abandon
43:25 <Harold> if 1 attacks G?
43:40 <Harold> Eat it
43:56 <Harold> Just wait til I can cast on 3rd level
44:03 <Harold> I will wreck the game
44:08 <Harold> no, no, only kidding
44:10 <Avatar> #1 drops his longbow and draws his silver short sword to attack Gogg
44:17 <Derau> :D
44:30 <Derau> Nope
44:33 <Avatar> roll your attacks Derau, Gogg, Harold
44:34 <Derau> @ranged
44:37 <Derau> :O
44:47 <Derau> !throw 1d20+1 Crossbow attack
44:47 <diebot> Derau, Crossbow attack: [1d20=13] 14
44:48 <Avatar> :O
44:52 <Gogg> !throw 1d20+6 greataxe
44:52 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe: [1d20=10] 16
44:52 <Derau> I am
45:05 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow Attack
45:05 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow Attack: [1d20=7] 10
45:07 <Avatar> Derau misses
45:09 <Avatar> Gogg hits
45:14 <Avatar> Harold misses
45:16 <Avatar> Gogg, roll damage
45:26 <Derau> !save ranged: 1d20+1 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage
45:26 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+1 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage saved as @ranged
45:33 <Derau> !save Ranged: 1d20+1 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage
45:34 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+1 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage saved as @Ranged
45:41 <Derau> Right
45:45 <Harold> if they don't yield, I'm greasing them near the burning fields
45:45 <Gogg> !throw 1d12+7 greataxe dmg
45:45 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe dmg: [1d12=2] 9
45:46 <Harold> lol
45:48 <Harold> napalm
46:00 <Avatar> he's somewhat wounded
46:23 <Gogg> lucky bastard
46:43 <Samsuhn> !dist 25 10
46:43 <diebot> Samsuhn, Length of hypotenuse: 26.925824
46:54 <Avatar> he drew both weapons
46:57 <Avatar> he attacks with one 
47:15 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4 
47:15 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=8] 12
47:17 <Avatar> missing
47:26 <Harold> my rogue uses 1 silver ss, and 1 cold iron ss
47:30 <Avatar> #2 shoots his longbow at Gogg
47:38 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
47:39 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=1] 4
47:40 <Gogg> "We warn ye"
47:41 <Avatar> missing woefully
47:48 <Derau> lol
47:52 <Gogg> "you guys are dead meat!"
48:10 <Harold> FOREVER
48:11 <Gogg> Intimidate #1 guy
48:12 <Harold> lol
48:16 <Harold> just cut his throat
48:22 <Nightmare> "Well... if you DON'T want to talk..."
48:24 <Harold> dont threaten it, just do it
48:52 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
48:56 <Nightmare> hmmm
49:01 <Nightmare> stab 1 with longspear
49:08 <Avatar> roll to hit
49:12 <Gogg> can't I use Intimidate?
49:16 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
49:17 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=19] 24
49:32 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3 damage
49:32 <diebot> Nightmare, damage: [1d8=1] 4
49:41 <Avatar> he's now critical
49:57 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
49:58 <Nightmare> 5' to L8
50:10 <Nightmare> and bite 1
50:30 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+4
50:30 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+4: [1d20=9] 13
50:36 <Avatar> miss
50:43 <Samsuhn> I cast acid splash on #1
50:43 <Nightmare> my teeth get snagged on some chainmail?
50:47 <Nightmare> leather?
50:48 <Nightmare> end turn
50:54 <Avatar> roll ranged touch
50:59 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2
51:00 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+2: [1d20=2] 4
51:05 <Avatar> missing woefully
51:11 <Avatar> move action remains
51:33 <Harold> firing into melee is -4
51:39 <Samsuhn> end turn
51:52 <Harold> Precise Shot is a feat
52:01 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
52:03 <Harold> Drop cross bow, cast Grease on a 10' square, M6, N6, M7, N7.
52:20 <Derau> lol
52:24 <Harold> You will learn to love it.
53:12 <Harold> They should learn to balance their offensive and defensive efforts
53:26 <Harold> burn him
53:31 <Avatar> move action remains
53:36 <Harold> it will burn him
53:37 <Harold> yes
53:46 <Harold> and if he wakes
54:00 <Harold> he'll have to roll an acrobatics check to keep from falling
54:02 <Harold> no
54:03 <Harold> I'm not
54:08 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
54:19 <Gogg> intimidate
54:24 <Gogg> #1
54:28 <Avatar> roll intimidate
54:41 <Gogg> !throw 1d20+8 Intimidate
54:42 <diebot> Gogg, Intimidate: [1d20=19] 27
55:06 <Gogg> my class skill, and trait
55:23 <Derau> grabbing water, back in a minute
55:31 <Gogg> my only good skill
55:31 <Nightmare> !feat Intimidating Prowess
55:32 <diebot> Nightmare, Add Str to Intimidate  in addition to Cha
55:37 <Avatar> #1 becomes shaken
56:19 <Samsuhn> !dist 25 10
56:20 <diebot> Samsuhn, Length of hypotenuse: 26.925824
56:43 <Avatar> move action remains
56:53 <Gogg> F5
57:25 <Gogg> H7?
57:47 <Harold> if hes disengaging, he doesnt suffer an attack of opportunity
57:55 <Harold> oh, sorry
58:09 <Gogg> yeah
58:23 <Gogg> I agree
58:25 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+2
58:25 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+2: [1d20=11] 13
58:27 <Avatar> missing
58:32 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
58:35 <Derau> Sup yo
58:44 <Derau> Shoot #1
58:49 <Avatar> roll to hit
58:53 <Derau> Reload and shoot, that is
58:56 <Derau> @ranged
58:56 <diebot> Derau, Crossbow: [1d20=17] 18; Damage: [1d8=8] 8
59:04 <Avatar> he drops
59:36 <Avatar> #2 shoots Harold
59:44 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+1
59:45 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+1: [1d20=2] 3
59:50 <Avatar> but he's too damn shaken
00:06 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
00:16 <Nightmare> move to D7 and pick up F
01:00 <Gogg> can i see any obvious source of water? like a well?
01:21 <Derau> Is Gogg a waterbender?
01:37 <Gogg> in the past life maybe
01:58 <Nightmare> double move to C6
02:03 <Nightmare> then end turn
02:26 <Nightmare> or B6
02:31 <Nightmare> B6 would be just as good
02:35 <Gogg> earthbending then
02:40 <Nightmare> and call out "FIRE!"
02:48 <Derau> Are all the guys gone?
02:55 <Derau> Alright
02:59 <Gogg> is Falbin unconscious?
03:28 <Nightmare> end turn
03:31 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
03:34 <Gogg> I'll give him cpr
03:41 <Samsuhn> move to P7 and Daze on #2
03:43 <Gogg> :)
04:03 <Avatar> he appears dazed
04:06 <Derau> "You guys get him" (indicating the last guy) "I'll heal Falbin"
04:08 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
04:10 <Avatar> the fire spreads
04:18 <Harold> Pick up crossbow, load bolt, crank. Do I get to fire it?
04:26 <Derau> If it's a light crossbow, yes
04:27 <Gogg> I'll put out fire
04:31 <Derau> Heavy crossbows take longer
04:35 <Harold> it is
04:45 <Harold> light
04:46 <Derau> Read down Avatar
04:51 <Avatar> roll to hit
05:01 <Gogg> I meant to say that in character, sorry
05:18 <Harold> !roll Crossbow 1d20+3   Damage 1d8  at 2
05:48 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow 1d8    Damage at 2
05:48 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow 1d8    Damage at 2: [1d20=18] 21
05:55 <Avatar> hit
05:56 <Avatar> roll damage
06:09 <Harold> !throw 1d8
06:09 <diebot> Harold, 1d8: [1d8=7] 7
06:16 <Derau> I think you want !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage at 2
06:19 <Avatar> he's somewhat wounded
06:26 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
06:29 <Harold> is there brackets involved?
06:35 <Derau> Don't think so
06:45 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage at 2
06:45 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow: [1d20=2] 5; Damage at 2: [1d8=4] 4
06:47 <Gogg> any shovel around?
06:53 <Harold> youre right, ty
07:13 <Avatar> you don't see any tools around
07:16 <Gogg> I use my hands
07:25 <Gogg> dig and throw at fire
07:47 <Derau> I should have taken create water
08:07 <Nightmare> we're in a town, right?
08:08 <Avatar> you prevent the fire from spreading slightly but don't think it's enough to put it out
08:17 <Derau> I wonder if there are dedicated squads of clerics with just create water, as firefighters
08:30 <Avatar> movement remains Gogg
09:00 <Gogg> G6
09:08 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
09:28 <Derau> Double move towards F
09:34 <Gogg> I can take it!
09:41 <Derau> 20ft movement
09:56 <Derau> I'd need to acrobatics
10:11 <Derau> Oh, ok
10:14 <Derau> Yeah
10:20 <Derau> Yeah
10:30 <Avatar> #2 takes a shot at Harold again
10:37 <Gogg> !save melee 1d20+6 greataxe; 1d12+7 Damage
10:38 <Avatar> but he misses wildly
10:51 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
10:56 <Harold> I'm not
11:06 <Harold> I did 7 dmg
11:17 <Nightmare> pick up Falbin
11:25 <Harold> is the red dot guy on fire?
11:31 <Avatar> movement action remains
11:37 <Nightmare> and take him to, say, H13
11:40 <Avatar> standard action remains
12:32 <Nightmare> good enough, I guess
12:35 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
12:36 <Nightmare> G9
12:40 <Gogg> !save melee: 1d20+6 greataxe; 1d12+7 Damage
12:41 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20+6 greataxe; 1d12+7 Damage saved as @melee
12:52 <Avatar> do roll-saving in pm
12:54 <Avatar> to diebot
13:39 <Harold> the opposite of truestrike
14:03 <Samsuhn> I'll cast bungle on him
14:11 <Avatar> you begin casting bungle
14:11 <Samsuhn> DC 18
14:36 <Avatar> he looks like he's about to bungle his next move
14:45 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
14:48 <Avatar> the fire spreads
14:52 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage at 2
14:53 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow: [1d20=16] 19; Damage at 2: [1d8=3] 3
15:11 <Derau> Do they teach fire safety in schools in Golarion?
15:16 <Derau> Stop drop and roll?
15:26 <Harold> Move I11
15:44 <Harold> yes plz, & ty
15:45 <Derau> I've only got Knowledge (Religion)
15:47 <Avatar> 20ft
15:51 <Avatar> standard action remains
15:58 <Harold> no
16:02 <Harold> I shot him first
16:16 <Avatar> he's seriously wounded
16:20 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
16:25 <Gogg> same action
16:28 <Derau> I have to leave at 4:30, if this isn't over by then I'll have to drop out
16:28 <Harold> my movement is 30ft
16:37 <Derau> Can we just leave this place to burn?
16:58 <Derau> We didn't burn it down
17:17 <Derau> In the meantime I'll take an alchemist's fire out and throw it at the house
17:21 <Harold> is the Grecian burning?
17:25 <Derau> Just to prove it
17:26 <Gogg> dig and throw at fire
17:28 <Avatar> really?
17:32 <Derau> No
17:32 <Nightmare> whatever attitude he has, I'll improve it :P
17:38 <Derau> It's not my turn
17:46 <Avatar> same thing happens, you prevent the spread from here but don't manage to put it out
17:54 <Avatar> movement action remains
18:10 <Samsuhn> "Can you guys help us with the hunter before we bother with the fire?!"
18:13 <Gogg> "I need help here!"
18:36 <Gogg> no
18:39 <Avatar> it's Derau'st urn
18:42 <Nightmare> "I think Falbir needs the most help."
18:59 <Derau> I move 20ft S and heal Falbir
19:00 <Gogg> "momma said fire should be put out"
19:17 <Derau> Damn
19:24 <Derau> Can I?
19:32 <Avatar> roll cure
19:34 <Derau> 1d8+2 right?
19:37 <Derau> @heal
19:40 <Derau> @CLW
19:44 <Avatar> #2 tries to fire another arrow, woefully
19:48 <Derau> 'sif I haven't saved these things
19:52 <Derau> !throw 1d8+2
19:52 <diebot> Derau, 1d8+2: [1d8=4] 6
19:52 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
20:07 <Nightmare> is Falbir awake yet?
20:13 <Derau> Sacrificing bless
20:15 <Harold> the Grecian
20:26 <Avatar> Falbin wakes up, sees what's happening
20:38 <Avatar> "Uh.. uhh.. oh no... my field !!!!"
20:42 <Nightmare> I'll deposit him at G10
21:00 <Derau> Yeah
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21:04 <Derau> Absolutely
21:09 <Nightmare> and charge to N3, jumping 10' of flames
21:54 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+6
21:55 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+6: [1d20=19] 25
22:15 <Avatar> roll to hit
22:19 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+7
22:20 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+7: [1d20=3] 10
22:26 <Avatar> missing
22:31 <Nightmare> end turn
22:41 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
22:53 <Samsuhn> acid splash on #2
22:59 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2
22:59 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+2: [1d20=8] 10
23:03 <Avatar> miss
23:04 <Nightmare> "We'll do what we can, friend Falbir"
23:08 <Avatar> the fire spreads
23:09 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
23:10 <Samsuhn> end turn
23:23 <Harold> Move M11, attack 2 with crossbow.
23:39 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage at 2
23:39 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow: [1d20=3] 6; Damage at 2: [1d8=4] 4
23:48 <Avatar> misses
23:51 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
23:57 <Gogg> same action
24:14 <Avatar> are you sure
24:20 <Gogg> that's my character
24:33 <Derau> What idiot cast grease to spread the fire
24:34 <Avatar> the fire is prevented from spreading slightly
24:45 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
24:48 <Harold> I dont know
24:56 <Harold> we should find out who and talk with them
24:56 <Derau> I move back up to where I was and help Gogg with the fire
25:01 <Avatar> Falbin yells "go get him! then please save my field!"
25:03 <Harold> brilliant idea, though
25:08 <Nightmare> "Falbin, do you know where we can get water?"
25:12 <Avatar> tryring to be encouraging but worrying about the huge fire erupting
25:23 <Derau> Man CRTs are annoying
25:23 <Derau> 1 N
25:30 <Derau> I'll do the same thing he was
25:35 <Derau> Shovel dirt
25:52 <Avatar> #2 drops his longbow, drawing his shortswords
25:58 <Avatar> takes a 5ft step towards Nightmare
26:05 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+4
26:05 <Nightmare> fun
26:05 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+4: [1d20=9] 13
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26:36 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
26:44 <Nightmare> bite him
26:52 <Avatar> roll to hit and damage
27:04 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+4; 1d6+3
27:04 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+4: [1d20=12] 16; 1d6+3: [1d6=4] 7
27:15 <Avatar> and he drops, dying
27:31 <Nightmare> scoop him up, and 5' north
27:37 <Samsuhn> "Where can we get water?"
28:10 <Harold> gross
28:37 <Gogg> could that fence looking thing the roof of the well?
28:58 <Avatar> you're able to save half the field 
29:00 <Harold> meh
29:04 <Avatar> and he's grateful
29:35 <Harold> I choose when to dispell it
29:38 <Samsuhn> "What did the lycanthrope hunters want from you?"
29:45 <Harold> and I have not made that indication...
29:54 <Nightmare> "Are a lycanthrope?"
30:02 <Nightmare> "Are you a lycanthrope?"
30:05 <Harold> 2d4 days
30:13 <Harold> lol
30:18 <Harold> idnk
30:23 <Nightmare> "Could someone please stabilise this body?"
30:25 <Avatar> “Rumors of lycanthrope activity often bring ruthless bounty hunters to the region, anxious to kill for coin. The rumors of animal-men south of Wispil have brought several such groups to the region. These men robbed me of my belladonna supply just before you arrived and started burning down my gardens! I can’t thank you enough for saving my life and my livelihood.”
30:26 <Harold> oh
30:33 <Derau> I go and stabilise the body
30:35 <Harold> very well
30:38 <Avatar> he's stabilised
30:46 <Nightmare> "Belladonna? What was that for?"
31:04 <Gogg> "you have something to eat?"
31:05 <Samsuhn> "For hunting lycanthropes, of course."
31:26 <Nightmare> "really? what are its uses?"
31:35 <Samsuhn> "The Society sent us here to seek out the druidic cult probably responsible for the surgance of lycanthropy."
31:51 <Avatar> "There aren't any lycanthropes in the area.
32:01 <Nightmare> "What was the belladonna for?"
32:18 <Avatar> "I initially thought so, but I was wrong. Just like these hunters are wrong. The rumors spring from animal-men sighted in the forest near Briar Henge, where the druids’ ongoing ritual has 
32:19 <Avatar> had the strongest prolonged effect. The animal-men are bestial and dangerous, but they aren’t true lycanthropes, as they can’t change form and don’t have any particular vulnerability to silver—or to belladonna.”
32:34 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 profession(Gardener) for uses of belladonna
32:35 <diebot> Nightmare, profession(Gardener) for uses of belladonna: [1d20=14] 15
32:45 <Derau> ...
32:49 <Samsuhn> "Where are ther druids?"
32:53 <Samsuhn> "What can you tell us of their rituals?"
33:11 <Derau> Can I use Knowledge (Religion) to figure out if I know of any cults that might do that sort of thing?
33:16 <Nightmare> "Tell us more about these druids?"
33:30 <Derau> course
33:50 <Samsuhn> "Here's your belladona back."
34:01 <Avatar> you know the belladonna is a "useful herb"
34:17 <Avatar> "Thank you, here's something for your efforts."
34:19 <Harold> belladonna is an herb in the nightshade family, it is sometimes used as a sedative
34:36 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 nature on the blossom
34:37 <diebot> Samsuhn, nature on the blossom: [1d20=15] 24
34:51 <Avatar> The litheria blossom is a rare but naturally occurring flower with large, pink petals. The pollen of the litheria blossom bridges the gap between life and death, functioning like 
34:51 <Avatar> an elixir, though inhaled rather than imbibed. A creature that inhales the pollen gains the benefit of the death ward and deathwatch spells. Both effects last for 10 minutes. 
34:51 <Avatar> If plucked, the flower remains vibrant and alive until the pollen within the flower is inhaled, at which point the flower wilts and dies. The pollen remains potent only so long as it held within the flower or immediately thereafter. One round after the pollen is removed from the flower, both the pollen and the flower become nonmagical.
35:12 <Nightmare> wow
35:14 <Nightmare> nice
36:16 <Avatar> “The druids intend to transform everyone in the surrounding area into feral animal-men as a perverted way of returning them to ‘nature.’ The ritual is slow but powerful. The druids have been performing the ritual for weeks, and it seems to affect the area for miles around Briar Henge. Exactly how far out, I couldn’t say. I’ve done a lot of research, though, and I’ve learned two important 
36:17 <Avatar> points. First, the effects of the ritual are reversed only if the Atavistic Splinter is removed from Briar Henge before the entire ritual is complete—then all the affected animal-men would return to normal. Second, the ritual will end at sundown the day 
36:17 <Avatar> after tomorrow. That is, THE RITUAL WILL ONLY LAST TWO MORE DAYS. As it takes almost two days to get to Briar Henge, you’d better get moving.”
36:43 <Derau> We get moving
36:46 <Derau> Pronto
36:48 <Nightmare> "How did you find this out?"
37:22 <Avatar> "This is what I've learned about the situation in the area; I reported it to the Pathfinder Society for assistance."
37:32 <Gogg> move move move
37:37 <Nightmare> "How did you find it out?"
37:42 <Harold> can I do a knowledge local check to determine what direction briar hendge is in?
37:48 <Gogg> "heigh ho, heigh ho..."
37:49 <Samsuhn> "How do we get to Briar Henge?"
37:51 <Derau> Well shit sun
38:01 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 local on briar henge
38:02 <diebot> Samsuhn, local on briar henge: [1d20=10] 19
38:12 <Derau> Can I make a knowledge religion?
38:15 <Avatar> “It’s two days south of here, so you’d best hurry if you want to catch the druids before the ritual ends. The trail is fairly good for the first day, and there’s a small logging camp you could rest at. The loggers there are no friends of the druids, so you’re likely to receive a warm welcome if you mention you’re working against Briar Henge. Briar Henge is another day further southeast 
38:15 <Avatar> along some narrow but passable trails.” 
38:18 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+9 geography on surrounding area
38:18 <diebot> Samsuhn, geography on surrounding area: [1d20=13] 22
38:28 <Derau> Location of the henge
38:29 <Nightmare> "How did you find it out?"
38:40 <Avatar> Falbin sees you're scratching your heads a bit and draws you a map
38:50 <Derau> Is it easy to follow?
38:57 <Derau> Are we likely to get lost?
39:20 <Derau> Getting lost would suck
39:25 <Avatar> you weren't sure with the directions, but you're confident with the map
39:31 <Nightmare> how did he find it out?
39:40 <Derau> "If this ends in two days, we'd better get moving"
39:51 <Avatar> "I only saw Briar Henge from afar."
40:03 <Avatar> “It looks like a palisade wall in a ring, about twelve feet high and made of dense thorns. There was only one break in the wall that I saw, but it didn’t appear to be guarded.”
40:08 <Nightmare> "Yet you somehow know the details of the ritual?"
40:29 <Avatar> "Part of my research."
40:42 <Avatar> "There's only one more thing I can tell you before you go, and that's about the animal-men."
40:45 <Nightmare> "mmm?"
40:59 <Harold> "Do you have any materials on the ritual that I can review?"
41:05 <Avatar> "This is important, so please listen carefully."
41:13 <Avatar> "The animal-men are the result of the Briar Henge druids’ ritual with the Atavistic Splinter. That was all in my report to the Society. They used to be humanoids, but they’ve been changed by the druid’s ritual. They are incredibly tough, with animal-like faces and claws. They also lose most of their wits, becoming animalistic in mind as well as body. Longer exposure and closer proximity to 
41:13 <Avatar> Briar Henge appear to enhance the effects; I had to evade a trapper who lived only a few miles east of Briar Henge, and she was little more than a raving beast. Be careful.”
42:07 <Avatar> he ushers you on
42:11 <Samsuhn> we leave
42:15 <Samsuhn> and go towards that hunter lodge
42:17 <Nightmare> "So they're not lycanthropes?"
42:18 <Derau> We hustle
42:19 <Gogg> "ish, ush."
42:21 <Samsuhn> or uh, logger camp
42:23 <Samsuhn> whatever it is called
42:33 <Nightmare> "I suggest we get swift mounts, if time is of the essence."
42:42 <Avatar> "No."
42:46 <Derau> Why do I feel like this logger camp is gonna be entirely animals?
42:48 <Avatar> re lycanthropes
43:15 <Harold> conjure: mount
43:21 <Harold> brb afk
47:16 <Derau> ha
47:25 <Derau> Heh
47:27 <Derau> What do you need?
47:33 * Derau grabs his calculator
49:05 <Avatar> if you're buying a horse, please pm me
49:15 <Derau> I'm here
49:15 <Gogg> we're here
49:23 <Avatar> mekkis/horace ?
49:23 <Derau> Harold, MekkisScreen?
49:24 <Nightmare> .
49:34 <Derau> I'm not
49:40 <Harold> back\
49:41 <Gogg> yeah
49:52 <Harold> its only 2hrs
49:55 <Gogg> "horsie!"
50:03 <Derau> I'm not
50:09 <Harold> how much?
50:19 <Harold> for myself?
50:46 <Derau> "I don't trust horses"
51:14 <Derau> Gold isn't the issue man
51:26 <Avatar> the first day's journey takes you to a logging camp
51:57 <Nightmare> let's continue on
51:57 <Harold> was that shade about the grease?
52:20 <Avatar> The path runs through a small collection of buildings deep in the forest. This place appears to be a successful lumber camp — nearly a small village — but seems abandoned. A few open doors bang softly in the wind, hanging askew on their hinges.
52:25 <Harold> did killing him affect your faction?
52:35 <Harold> ah so
52:46 <Harold> ah so, assho
53:02 <Derau> Told you
53:21 <Nightmare> increase cell size by 1 
53:30 <Derau> -7, Avatar
53:37 <Derau> In vertical
53:45 <Nightmare> +1 to cell size first
54:28 <Derau> Yeah
54:31 <Derau> Change the cell size
54:57 <Derau> Yeah still doesn't line up
55:16 <Derau> Shit what cell size do you have?
55:34 <Avatar> secret perception checks
55:35 <Derau> @see
55:35 <diebot> Derau, Perception: [1d20=5] 11
55:46 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception @Avatar
55:51 <Gogg> @perceive Avatar
55:52 <Derau> !throw 1d20+6 Perception @Avatar
55:52 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 @Avatar
55:56 <Samsuhn> I whisper "Watch out, this doesn't look right. Expect animal-men."
56:12 <Derau> Map is still out on this end
56:16 <Harold> !throw 1d20-3 perception @Avatar
56:36 <Harold> did that work?
56:50 <Avatar> yep
57:17 <Gogg> @throw 1d20-2 Avatar
57:29 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 Avatar
57:31 <diebot> Gogg, Avatar: [1d20=2] 0
57:33 <Derau> @Avatar
57:40 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 @Avatar
58:42 <Samsuhn> I whisper "Ambush" and point to that location
58:45 <Derau> I suddenly move north
59:05 <Derau> Wherever this ambush is
59:12 <Derau> Why NOT
59:23 <Harold> theyll never suspect it
59:35 <Derau> If I can hear it, it's already been sprung, so they won't expect people behind them
59:48 <Nightmare> I'll be following Derau 
59:51 <Gogg> I jus came from work. Ahm bushed. :)
00:03 <Nightmare> closely
00:12 <Nightmare> casting Mage Armour
00:13 <Derau> Oh, if it's that kind, I won't
00:20 <Derau> Yeah I know now
00:27 <Harold> oh, on someone else
00:35 * Nightmare casts Mage Armour
00:36 <Harold> I was going to say
00:42 <Harold> what is the other kind of ambush where they aren't waiting for us to attack
00:48 <Harold> Can I act?
00:54 <Harold> no, I'll wait
00:57 <Harold> nvm
01:09 <Harold> !throw 1d20+11 Craft: Chinese Take Out Order
01:09 <diebot> Harold, Craft: Chinese Take Out Order: [1d20=3] 14
02:15 <Avatar> you can act if you want
02:19 <Gogg> quietly drawing greataxe...
02:40 <Harold> I'll draw my crossbow
02:51 * Gogg whispers to Nightmare
03:01 <Derau> I draw my Waraxe too
03:07 <Harold> when its time, ill draw my crossbow
03:07 <Gogg> "can you cast mage armor on me?"
03:08 <Samsuhn> I point behind the northwest part of the platform with the fountain
03:12 <Samsuhn> then the building directly northwest of us
03:15 <Samsuhn> and the building directly northeast of us
03:24 <Harold> self only
03:54 <Avatar> it's evening now
04:11 <Harold> not really
04:16 <Harold> i cant see your pointing
04:16 <Nightmare> okay
04:26 <Derau> It's dark?
04:41 <Avatar> getting dark, like it's 6pmish
04:48 <Derau> I pull a sunrod and mime throwing it forward
04:49 <Gogg> dusky
04:50 <Harold> no, what direction are you pointing in? I was waiting for somethingon the map
05:46 * Nightmare whispers, "Should we enter this village from a different direction?"
05:53 * Nightmare casts /Message/ on the party
05:55 <Thelen>  oh lord i was so tired, totally slept through :(
06:03 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2 perform
06:03 <diebot> Samsuhn, perform: [1d20=20] 22
06:27 <Derau> Ha
06:30 <Gogg> hey Thelen
06:37 <Gogg> "wow"
07:15 <Samsuhn> I walk east
07:24 <Samsuhn> and motion for the others to follow
07:34 <Avatar> are you all following?
07:36 * Harold whispers, "If we slide along the western edge here, we can approach from behind the larger building there"
07:37 <Thelen> yes
07:42 <Avatar> quiet Thelen
07:43 <Gogg> "me folow...ssshh"
07:55 * Harold follows
08:06 <Derau> Yeah
08:12 * Gogg put one stubby finger on mouth
08:13 <Nightmare> I'll follow in front :S
08:21 <Gogg> "sssshh.."
08:24 <Samsuhn> I whisper "If these guys are ambushing us, they're probably not animals. They might not be hostile if we tell them we're against the druids."
08:41 <Samsuhn> I look at Nightmare as I say that
08:42 <Nightmare> "Or they might be animals."
08:42 * Gogg whispers "heigh ho, heigh ho"
08:51 <Derau> "Shut up!"
08:58 <Nightmare> "But I won't attack unless provoked."
09:02 <Nightmare> "Should we call out?"
09:16 <Samsuhn> "Get around this corner, then do it."
09:24 <Nightmare> "Should I walk out and call out?"
09:25 <Derau> I'll switch to my Light Crossbow at this point
09:35 <Gogg> I'll do total defense
09:37 <Samsuhn> "Yeah."
09:47 * Harold "here in the narrow pass, where numbers count for nothing"
10:05 <Gogg> and I'm in front
10:15 * Nightmare walks skowly to O29, then slowly north, calling out "What's going on over here?"
10:35 <Nightmare> (continuing north
10:36 <Derau> I'm walking slowly about 10ft behind him, ready to shoot anyone that doesn't like us
10:54 <Derau> And by doesn't like us I mean attacks us
10:55 <Avatar> there's no reply, but you can make new secret perception checks if you want
11:03 <Gogg> "hail frend!"
11:03 <Derau> !throw 1d20+6 Perception @Avatar
11:06 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 perception @Avatar
11:12 <Derau> I kick Gogg if he's nearby
11:17 <Harold> Um, sorry to interject. how many hit points do I recover, or do I?
11:18 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 Perception @Avatar
11:27 <Derau> How low are you Harold?
11:41 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+1 perception @Avatar
11:41 <Harold> !throw 1d20-3 perception @Avatar
11:43 <Harold> 3
11:46 <Derau> Shit
11:55 <Derau> I think it's safe to assume I healed him on the way here
12:01 <Nightmare> continue north, up to O25
12:13 Gogg has quit (Connection reset by peer)
12:14 <Nightmare> then to P24, then continue north
12:15 <Derau> Sacrificing Bless (2)
12:23 <Samsuhn> "We're here to fight against Briar Henge."
12:33 <Derau> !throw 1d8+2
12:34 <diebot> Derau, 1d8+2: [1d8=8] 10
12:39 <Nightmare> "Don't declare allegence yet!"
12:53 <Harold> ty
13:07 Gogg ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
13:20 <Harold> wibs
13:36 ChanOP gives channel half-operator status to diebot
15:02 Brunius ([email protected]) has joined #d&d
15:21 Brunius is now known as Brunius_
15:34 <Brunius_> Derau is timing out
15:54 Brunius_ has quit (Quit: Do fish get thirsty?)
15:56 * Nightmare calls "Come out. I don't want to harm you."
16:12 <Samsuhn> "Are they human?"
16:22 <Nightmare> sure
16:23 <Avatar> roll diplomacy secretly
16:24 <Nightmare> another 3N
16:29 * Gogg calls out "we friends."
16:35 Derau has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
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16:50 BRunius is now known as Derau
16:51 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+21 Diplomacy @Avatar
16:53 <Gogg> !throw 1d20-2 diplomacy @Avatar
16:58 <Derau> Not sure what that was about
17:01 ChanOP gives voice to Derau
17:07 <Nightmare> (if it's a failure, and they're unfriendly or hostile, I get a reroll)
17:14 <Nightmare> (if they're wolves, I get +2)
17:19 <Derau> Jesus
17:23 <Nightmare> (If I rolled a natural 1, I plan on rerolling)
17:29 <Harold> yeah, crazy
17:32 <Avatar> you're not sure if it worked
17:44 <Avatar> you know there's still no response
17:52 <Avatar> a bit of hustling, you can all hear it now
18:01 <Avatar> something's clearly wrong
18:02 * Nightmare moves 5' north
18:23 <Avatar> and one of them begins to attack
18:24 <Nightmare> what's to my west.
18:27 <Avatar> roll initiative
18:32 <Derau> @init
18:32 <diebot> Derau, 1d20+2: [1d20=9] 11
18:32 <Avatar> it's another of the same-looking feral guys
18:33 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+3 initiative
18:33 <diebot> Samsuhn, initiative: [1d20=15] 18
18:35 <Nightmare> @initr
18:37 <Gogg> @init
18:37 <Nightmare> @init
18:37 <diebot> Gogg, 1d20-1: [1d20=17] 16
18:38 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=8] 10
19:15 Avatar gives voice to Gogg
19:18 <Harold> !throw 1d20+3
19:19 <diebot> Harold, 1d20+3: [1d20=3] 6
19:43 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
20:08 <Nightmare> isn't there a surprise round first then?
20:11 <Derau> Are they attacking us?
20:16 <Nightmare> since not all combatants are aware?
20:27 <Derau> Then I get my readied action
20:39 <Harold> "I feel very safe snuggled in here. This is a wonderful sandwich of safety."
20:47 <Samsuhn> I delay
20:56 <Derau> I was 10ft behind Nightmare with a readied action to shoot anything that attacked us
21:10 <Nightmare> you can't ready out-of-combat
21:17 <Derau> Can't you?
21:20 <Nightmare> nope
21:44 <Harold> Okay, not in the sandwich of safety
21:45 <Nightmare> what's happening
21:49 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
21:51 <Harold> I'm watching the other way, then
22:05 <Gogg> 028
22:09 <Gogg> total defense
22:28 <Avatar> movement action remains
22:46 <Gogg> yeah
22:54 <Gogg> in front of mightmare
22:56 <Gogg> 028
23:32 <Gogg> in front of nightmare
23:33 <Nightmare> "Don't get in front of me"
23:50 <Gogg> behind him then
23:54 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
24:31 <Derau> Well I obviously don't know anything is happening, so I stand around twiddling my thumbs
24:39 <Avatar> Derau delays
25:13 <Avatar> logger #1 charges Nightmare
25:19 <Nightmare> Aoo
25:28 <Avatar> roll it
25:34 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5 vs AC -2
25:35 <diebot> Nightmare, vs AC -2: [1d20=7] 12
25:53 <Avatar> miss
25:58 <Nightmare> ok
26:21 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+5
26:22 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+5: [1d20=12] 17
26:25 <Nightmare> miss
27:08 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
27:52 <Gogg> gnome
30:02 <Harold> is n28 a window, can i see inside it?
30:03 <Samsuhn> I'll acid splash #1
30:10 <Gogg> now I know why I'm clueless about the map\
30:10 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+2; 1d3
30:11 <diebot> Samsuhn, 1d20+2: [1d20=12] 14; 1d3: [1d3=1] 1
30:18 <Gogg> I got disconnected
30:24 <Avatar> you deal 1 acid damage to #1
30:28 <Harold> sorry, that was early
30:52 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
31:02 <Nightmare> bite #1
31:06 <Avatar> roll it
31:11 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+4
31:12 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+4: [1d20=3] 7
31:15 <Avatar> miss
31:15 <Derau> I don't know that anything is happening, remember?
31:16 <Avatar> movement remains
31:19 <Nightmare> 5' north
31:29 <Nightmare> claw #1
31:45 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+2
31:47 <Avatar> roll to hit
31:48 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+2: [1d20=6] 8
31:51 <Avatar> miss again
31:58 <Nightmare> move longspear back into both hands
31:59 <Nightmare> end turn
32:11 <Derau> Oh good, my eyes are function now are they?
32:42 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
32:51 <Harold> is shooting through 
32:55 <Gogg> should iy be my turn?
32:56 <Harold> S a penalty?
33:20 <Harold> ok
33:23 <Avatar> shooting into melee (N/1) is
33:30 <Avatar> -4 penalty
33:48 <Harold> shooting 1 with crossbow
33:54 <Avatar> roll to hit
34:24 <Harold> !throw 1d20-1 Crossbow; 1d8 Damage
34:24 <diebot> Harold, Crossbow: [1d20=13] 12; Damage: [1d8=6] 6
34:38 <Harold> yes
34:41 <Avatar> miss
34:44 <Harold> +3-4
34:46 <Harold> -1
34:55 <Derau> Yeah
34:57 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
35:00 <Derau> Shoot #1
35:02 <Avatar> roll it
35:05 <Derau> @ranged
35:05 <diebot> Derau, Crossbow: [1d20=14] 15; Damage: [1d8=7] 7
35:13 <Derau>  Nope
35:15 <Avatar> miss
35:21 <Avatar> movement action remains
35:23 <Gogg> -2 to AC of #1
35:56 <Harold> does 12 hit?
35:58 <Derau> reload crossbow
36:08 <Avatar> that hit
36:11 <Harold> no
36:20 <Harold> mine
36:21 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
36:25 <Gogg> kill
36:29 <Gogg> @melee\
36:30 <Harold> oh, youre saying he 13 ac
36:31 <Avatar> roll your kill
36:34 <Gogg> @melee
36:34 <diebot> Gogg, greataxe: [1d20=1] 7; Damage: [1d12=11] 18
36:40 <Gogg> what the?
36:42 <Avatar> miss
36:46 <Avatar> movement remains
36:54 <Gogg> stay
36:57 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
37:01 <Derau> Doesn't my init change if I delay?
37:08 <Harold> yes
37:34 <Avatar> #1 attacks Gogg
37:52 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
37:52 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=10] 13
37:53 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=5] 8
37:53 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
37:53 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=9] 12
38:25 <Avatar> they all miss
38:32 <Avatar> #2 goes for Nightmare
38:41 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
38:41 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=12] 15
38:42 <Nightmare> AoO
38:48 <Avatar> roll your AoO
38:52 <Nightmare> hmmm
38:55 <Nightmare> attempt to trip
39:00 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+4 CMB
39:01 <diebot> Nightmare, CMB: [1d20=13] 17
39:06 <Harold> wow
39:16 <Avatar> melee touch?
39:19 <Harold> PCs gettomg aoos? this is unheard of
39:24 <Derau> ikr
40:01 <Harold> my gm moves a goblin dog 30feet for 2 squares on the most crooked path just to deny aoo
40:14 <Avatar> he trips over
40:26 <Derau> Your GM sounds like a bit of a dick
40:44 <Avatar> he misses 
40:47 <Nightmare> okay
40:59 <Harold> hes super tactical, and super miserly
41:10 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
42:06 <Samsuhn> I'll begin to cast sleep
42:20 <Avatar> it's Nightmare's turn
42:25 <Nightmare> hmm
43:10 <Derau> I did
43:15 <Derau> Der-ow
43:17 <Nightmare> hmmm
43:31 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+7 spellcraft
43:32 <diebot> Nightmare, spellcraft: [1d20=15] 22
43:33 <Gogg> peace
43:40 <Harold> chucking a spaz?
43:52 <Avatar> you can tell he's casting sleep
44:04 <Nightmare> 5' north
44:09 <Nightmare> longspear 1
44:16 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+5
44:17 <Avatar> roll it
44:17 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+5: [1d20=12] 17
44:20 <Gogg> It's a free action to spellcraft but a standard action to intimidate
44:21 <Avatar> hit
44:21 <Nightmare> !throw 1d8+3 damage
44:22 <diebot> Nightmare, damage: [1d8=6] 9
44:23 <Avatar> roll damage
44:26 <Gogg> hmmmm....
44:28 <Avatar> he drops
44:31 <Nightmare> bite 2
44:43 <Nightmare> !throw 1d20+8
44:44 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d20+8: [1d20=5] 13
44:51 <Avatar> hit
44:52 <Avatar> roll damage
45:00 <Nightmare> !throw 1d6+3
45:01 <diebot> Nightmare, 1d6+3: [1d6=3] 6
45:09 <Nightmare> end turn
45:18 <Avatar> it's Harold's turn
45:26 <Harold> can I see in the window?
45:30 <Derau> What happened to my turn?
45:52 <Derau> Delay changes init
46:04 <Harold> if I take a 5' step, can I see in the window?
46:40 <Avatar> full round still remains
46:40 <Harold> nothing in the house
47:03 <Harold> shift into n28
47:24 <Harold> 5ft per 2 lvls
47:28 <Harold> I think
47:31 <Harold> DD
47:38 <Harold> need to be able to see
47:40 <Harold> swift action
47:44 <Avatar> full round remains
47:52 <Harold> move to door at north of room
47:59 <Avatar> it's Derau's turn
48:08 <Derau> 1 is dead, correct?
48:12 <Derau> Where is 2?
48:48 <Derau> Move 15ft North drawing waraxe on the way, dropping crossbow in current position
49:01 <Avatar> roll to hit
49:09 <Derau> @melee
49:09 <diebot> Derau, attack: [1d20=11] 9; dmg: [1d10=10] 11
49:17 <Avatar> hit
49:18 <Avatar> roll damage
49:24 <Derau> 11
49:32 <Derau> 9 hits?
49:37 <Avatar> he drops, dying
49:42 <Derau> Ah
50:00 <Avatar> it's Gogg's turn
50:35 <Gogg> moves to 020
50:49 <Gogg> stomping on the two fallen person along the way
50:49 <Avatar> standard action remains
50:59 <Gogg> "that's for making me miss"
51:06 <Gogg> total def
51:16 <Gogg> "and that's for being his friend"
51:34 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+3
51:34 <diebot> Avatar, 1d20+3: [1d20=19] 22
51:47 <Avatar> !throw 1d4+2
51:47 <diebot> Avatar, 1d4+2: [1d4=4] 6
51:51 <Avatar> biting him for 6hp
51:57 <Samsuhn> 6/12
52:08 <Nightmare> I need to be off for a bit now
52:14 <Samsuhn> !throw 1d20+7 concentration
52:14 <diebot> Samsuhn, concentration: [1d20=16] 23
52:21 <Avatar> it's Samsuhn's turn
52:50 <Avatar> last guy falls asleep
52:52 <Avatar> zz
53:06 <Avatar> that's game
53:07 <Derau> I've gotta go at 4:30
53:09 <Derau> Alright
53:18 <Gogg> good game
53:18 <Derau> Probably
53:25 <Harold> Yay!
53:26 <Avatar> game tomororw morning?
53:31 <Harold> love the music
53:32 <Gogg> huzzah!
53:36 <Gogg> love it
53:40 <Harold> tomorrow morning?
53:48 <Derau> I might not be able to
53:49 <Harold> I'm not sure
54:11 <Harold> Same time? that's 6pm my time tomorrow?
54:17 <Derau> Because Meet the Sniper is awesome
54:33 <Derau> I told you I could have had a microphone, but I'd need to go through two phones
54:35 <Harold> I may be out then
54:44 <Gogg> play!
54:47 <Harold> I have to travel to a different city 
54:50 <Derau> Monday and Tuesday are public holidays
54:50 <Harold> not sure when
54:55 <Harold> family
54:57 <Harold> same day
55:00 <Harold> I have a dog
55:03 <Harold> so, same day
55:11 <Harold> probably my sunday morning
55:19 <Avatar> our monday
55:21 <Harold> which is your sunday night
55:22 <Avatar> so you're unavailable monday
55:28 <Harold> no, sunday night
55:30 <Avatar> oh
55:34 <Harold> 16 hours ahead
55:34 <Avatar> so monday 10am ?
55:50 <Harold> your monday 10am is my sunday 6pm
55:57 <Avatar> ug
56:03 <Samsuhn> but you will be back then right
56:09 <Harold> most likely
56:11 Samsuhn is now known as Ballig
56:12 <Avatar> would you want to play then
56:14 <Harold> can we say monday 11am?
56:18 * Avatar removes voice from Ballig Derau Gogg Harold Nightmare
56:23 Derau is now known as Brunius
56:24 <Avatar> (change your nicks back)
56:25 <Ballig> I'm fine with Monday 11am
56:37 Gogg is now known as Jaggedsoul
56:37 <Avatar> brunius jaggedsoul mekkis? mon 11am?
56:43 <Avatar> 10am if you're mekkis
56:43 <Brunius> Yeah should be fine
56:50 <Avatar> or maybe 9am if you're mekkis
56:56 <Jaggedsoul> 8am for me
57:02 <Avatar> is that ok?
57:04 Harold is now known as Horace_Myrthit
57:06 <Jaggedsoul> how long?
57:11 <Avatar> 4 hoursish
57:12 <Ballig> same as a regular session
57:21 <Avatar> that was around about the end of act 2
57:34 <Brunius> How many acts are there?
57:39 <Jaggedsoul> monday 8am my time right?
57:40 <Avatar> 4
57:40 <Ballig> 4 probably
57:44 <Ballig> yeah, monday 8am your time
57:58 <Avatar> oh also something else happens
57:59 <Jaggedsoul> I'm in
58:03 <Avatar> I think
58:11 <Avatar> I'll do that at the beginning of next game
58:11 <Ballig> okay
58:14 <Avatar> cliffhangerz
58:15 <Horace_Myrthit> wait 8am your time is 5pm my time
58:23 <Jaggedsoul> need to update my char sheet
58:25 <Horace_Myrthit> er, 4pm, and I may not be back  by then
58:26 <Ballig> Horace_Myrthit: he's not in our timezone
58:29 <Horace_Myrthit> oh
58:36 <Ballig> so we're still talking 7pm your time
58:37 <Ballig> 11am our time
58:39 <Ballig> 8am Jaggedsoul's time
58:41 <Ballig> 10am Mekkis' time
58:45 <Ballig> (but we'll tell him 9am so he'll be here)
58:47 <Horace_Myrthit> rediculous
58:51 <Jaggedsoul> with the 2chronicle sheets I got
58:54 <Brunius> Man timezones are confusing
58:59 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Mon 26th 10am (Avatar, game in progress) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
59:02 <Jaggedsoul> one for 1st steps, the other one for wbg
59:06 <Horace_Myrthit> fucking magnets, how do they work?
59:11 <Avatar> 11am
59:14 <Ballig> can't explain that
59:15 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Mon 26th 11am (Avatar, game in progress) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
59:26 <Horace_Myrthit> lol, its a lyric from an ICP song
59:28 <Avatar> yeah you level up after this scenario jaggedsoul
59:32 <Avatar> assuming you don't die
59:37 <Ballig> he won't die
59:41 <Avatar> oh he might
59:41 <Ballig> fighters are balls
59:42 <Avatar> he might
59:44 <Horace_Myrthit> you may not have ICP in Australia, and you should be very thankful
00:00 <Ballig> whereas wizards need to dimension door into buildings and have convenient sleep spells already in progress in order to survive
00:02 <Jaggedsoul> total def all the way then :)
00:18 <Horace_Myrthit> lol
00:24 <Horace_Myrthit> DD into a building
00:29 <Horace_Myrthit> that's gonna be my signature move
00:54 <Jaggedsoul> my signature move will be total def
00:57 <Jaggedsoul> lol
01:11 <Ballig> just remember you don't get attacks of opportunity while in total defence
01:15 <Ballig> so don't just do it all the time by default
01:24 <Horace_Myrthit> actually, it will be a DD into a building, sidestepping out of the way so that ballig takes the hate
01:29 <Avatar> he can do it if he likes
01:32 <Avatar> it could save his life
01:44 <Ballig> his character is designed for damage
01:54 <Jaggedsoul> is it the same if you're fighting defensively?
01:56 <Ballig> he's potentially minmising that damage output if he forgoes his AOOs all the time
02:11 <Ballig> I think fighting defensively just reduces your attack or something
02:18 <Avatar> actually the other point to consider there is taking total defense means taking no attack
02:24 <Ballig> yeah
02:35 <Ballig> not to say he can never do it, just that he needs to consider all aspects of it first
02:37 <Avatar> is there such a thing as fighting defensively
02:43 <Ballig> I think there is
02:57 <Avatar> yeah
03:05 <Avatar> -4 to attacks gives +2 AC
03:05 <Ballig> might be a feat
03:10 <Avatar> anyone can do it
03:20 <Avatar> Fighting defensively as a standard action
03:33 <Avatar> under Combat > Standard Actions
03:40 <Ballig> yeah I see it
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04:00 <Ballig> doesn't prevent AOOs but obviously you wouldn't do it if there was a good chance of not hitting with a lowered attack bonus
04:03 <Avatar> that synthesist summoner wasn't as painful as I thought he might be !
04:05 <Jaggedsoul> -4 to attk in exchange for +2 to AC
04:29 <Ballig> I need to figure out what I'm spending my gold on
04:36 <Jaggedsoul> I'll switch between the two
05:19 <Jaggedsoul> Avatar, can you help me update my char sheet once you sent me the filled up chronicle sheet?
05:27 <Avatar> sure
05:30 <Avatar> what do you need to know
05:55 <Jaggedsoul> well, Mekkis already gave me a sheet
06:14 <Jaggedsoul> and I dont know how to go about reflecting those in my char sheet
06:21 <Jaggedsoul> plus the one you'll give
06:27 <Jaggedsoul> not a clue
06:37 <Avatar> what did mekkis give you
06:50 <Avatar> a chronicle sheet for a different scenario?
07:07 <Jaggedsoul> 1st steps
07:21 <Avatar> first steps part 3?
07:26 <Avatar> or part 1
07:35 <Jaggedsoul> dunno
07:39 <Avatar> it'll say on top of the sheet
07:42 <Jaggedsoul> I don't have the sheet with me
07:50 <Jaggedsoul> it's at home
07:52 <Avatar> did mekkis DM it
07:56 <Jaggedsoul> yep
08:02 <Avatar> ok so that's first steps 3
08:13 <Avatar> well we can help you with it when it's in front of you
08:17 <Avatar> not much point telling you now
08:49 <Avatar> did you guys enjoy that game
08:52 <Jaggedsoul> ok thanks
08:54 <Jaggedsoul> yeah
09:09 <Jaggedsoul> that last action by 3 is a cliffhanger
09:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> sachiru? he's still here XD
09:22 <Jaggedsoul> could've been nasty
09:28 <Sachiru> What about me?
09:48 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2 you missed a sweet game of PFS
10:05 <Avatar> even brunius played !
11:34 <Jaggedsoul> gtg guys
11:39 <Jaggedsoul> nice game Avatar
11:44 <Avatar> gg Jaggedsoul
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11:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> I was doing the wash
11:56 <Ballig> Avatar: you can't compare meet the sniper to my fanfare
11:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> otherwise I'd probably of played
12:03 <Ballig> one is just a sound/video clip, the other is me actually playing!
12:08 <Avatar> I think the fanfare may be getting a bit old
12:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea, but one is worth watching, the other isn't XD
12:18 <Avatar> the meet the sniper speech felt very appropriate
12:27 <Ballig> how was it appropriate
12:30 <Ballig> who was a sniper
12:32 <Avatar> did you listen to it
12:34 <Ballig> and did he play it
12:37 <Avatar> haha
12:43 <Ballig> or did he just hit play on the speech !
12:44 <Avatar> he clicked play
12:45 <Ballig> exactly !
12:54 <Ballig> still can't compare man, still can't compare
12:56 <Ballig> you are getting live music
13:06 <Avatar> I've never been much of a live music fan to be honest !
13:09 <Ballig> a single misstep could mean embarassment !
13:13 <Avatar> I like my music pre-recorded !
13:38 <Avatar> I actually only don't like the full fanfare
13:38 <Ballig> I will have to learn some more victory tunes
13:52 <Avatar> there's part of it you play that I'm sure isn't in ff7
13:58 <Ballig> it's in ff7
14:13 <Avatar> I remember how it goes in ff7 and it sounds different
14:17 <Ballig> I just don't play it very well
14:26 <Avatar> just play the shortened bit
14:30 <Avatar> that'd work better
14:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> I prefer FF8 victory
14:44 <Avatar> and include it with CA by default
14:47 <Ballig> ha
14:54 <Avatar> everybody wins !!
15:04 <Avatar> cue fanfare music
15:05 <Ballig> I'm glad we didn't come across any new bugs in the test version
15:10 <Avatar> yeah none at all
15:13 <Avatar> that slider is hot
15:39 <Ballig> maybe I should add one on that dialogue for box size too
15:53 <Avatar> and an apply button
16:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> hey avatar, have you ever summoned a wyrmling from the pyromancy skill?
16:24 <Avatar> yeah man I have pyromancy maxed out almost
16:35 <Avatar> the wyrmling has saved me a few times
16:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> does magic power improve the wyrmling?
16:44 <Avatar> no
16:49 <Ballig> the "okay" is apply
16:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> bah
17:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> also, have you seen spell caster staves besides the 1star refurbished staff?
19:02 <Avatar> cool I can disconnect individual people
19:16 <Avatar> how do I stop listening
19:27 <Avatar> try connecting I guess
19:30 <Ballig> file->disconnect
19:31 <Ballig> should do it
19:34 <Avatar> doesn't
19:36 <Avatar> or it doesn't say it does
19:46 <Ballig> does it say "Not connected" at the bottom
19:47 <Ballig> mine does
19:50 <Avatar> oh wait it does sorry
19:53 <Avatar> I was clicking the toolbutton
37:16 <Avatar> Ballig: I meant apply on the offset dialog
37:38 <Ballig> what would it do
37:51 <Avatar> adjust the box size as well and send it to players
37:56 <Avatar> but not close the dialog
38:07 <Ballig> so basically apply would do the same as okay but not close the dialog
38:13 <Ballig> what's the reasoning behind that
38:15 <Avatar> yeah that's what apply always does
38:24 <Ballig> but it only exists when there's a reason for it
38:26 <Avatar> so you don't have to reopen the dialog if it's wrong
38:27 <Ballig> I'm not sure I see the reason here
38:32 <Ballig> but shouldn't you know if it's right?
38:35 <Ballig> you can see it all right there
38:39 <Ballig> there's a live preview
38:41 <Avatar> with box size?
38:52 <Ballig> the idea is if I add box size I will try and do it in the same live preview way
38:55 <Ballig> if I can't do that, there's little use adding it
38:57 <Avatar> ohhh
39:18 <Avatar> same could still apply if you wanted players to see it and confirm it
39:29 <Ballig> it might be hard to pull off, I will have to get into it before I can determine if it's feasible
39:46 <Avatar> not a big one, forget it if it's too tough
40:30 <Avatar> Thelen what was your story today
40:40 <Ballig> he said he slept right through
40:44 <Ballig> about a minute before you told him to be quiet
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42:30 <Avatar> yeah what is that about
42:37 <Avatar> what happened to your alarm !
42:39 <Brunius> What is what about?
42:46 <Avatar> thelen
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42:51 <Avatar> sleeping through a sweet game of PFS
42:56 <Brunius> Geez man
43:04 <Avatar> what
43:19 <Brunius> Sleeping through a sweet game of PFS
43:23 <Brunius> How could you let that happen !
43:24 <Avatar> oh @thelen
43:26 <Avatar> yeah
43:32 <Avatar> it's not on !
43:49 <Avatar> it's funnier because he only needs 1 exp to level and somehow he misses out on it
43:59 <Avatar> like this is the second time
44:01 <Ballig> haha
44:07 <Ballig> yeah he did the same thing in the first game
44:18 <Avatar> tristen made a valiant effort to chase but no go 
44:29 <Ballig> I should prepare we be goblins
44:36 <Avatar> I can send you my maps if you want
44:42 <Ballig> yeah can you zip them
44:48 <Avatar> no, one by one
44:52 <Ballig> oh :(
44:58 <Avatar> it's ok i'll zip them
45:02 <Avatar> I guess
45:09 <Avatar> I need you to prep the chronicle sheet
45:18 <Ballig> I ordered pizza and for some reason said I wanted it delivered at 4pm
45:21 <Ballig> what the hell was I thinking
45:25 <Avatar> haha
45:34 <Ballig> I ordered it like an hour and a half ago, and guess I wasn't very hungry at the time
45:40 <Ballig> now I'm like man, I have to wait more than another hour
45:42 <Avatar> call them to deliver it asap
45:46 <Avatar> they'll just start making it now
45:50 <Ballig> yeah
51:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> I just liked how mekkis proved how broken the pathfinder/dnd system is
51:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> getting +21 at level 2 to diplomacy
51:58 <Avatar> it gets worse actually
52:08 <Avatar> he uses that diplomacy check on his job roll, which is normally craft/profession
52:13 <Avatar> which is normally a much lower score
52:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> yep
52:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> no idea why he can, but he can
52:32 <Avatar> so instead of getting like 50gp at maximum, he gets like 200gp
52:38 <Avatar> which is half a lower tier scenario
52:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> I think it's a DM given vanity
52:50 <Avatar> it was legit last I checked
52:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh I bet it is
53:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> but I think he got it from a vanity his DMing time gave him
53:07 <Avatar> although on his sheet it only has 13 ?
53:10 <Ballig> it's a boone from a scenario I think
53:12 <Avatar> ah sorry 21
53:16 <Avatar> it's +8 from the eidolon fusing
53:27 <Avatar> he doens't have the full audit on his sheet
53:37 <Avatar> +5 from cha
53:44 <Avatar> +2 from ranks
53:46 <Avatar> +3 class bonus
53:55 <Avatar> +3 from somewhere else
54:01 <Avatar> feat or trait
54:06 <Brunius> He could get a handbook that assists it
54:14 <Brunius> A miscellaneous tool
54:14 <Avatar> both traits by the looks
54:21 <Avatar> yeah he could
54:28 <Avatar> you'd think he would, why not !
54:32 <Avatar> it'd pay for itself
54:38 <Ballig> do the trait bonuses stack
54:44 <Brunius> There's a prestige award that lets you take diplomacy as a day job roll
54:46 <Avatar> oh? maybe not
55:00 <Avatar> Extremely Fashionable and Patient Optimist
55:04 <Avatar> would have to read the text
55:20 <Avatar> prestige award for the faction?
55:26 <Brunius> Don't think it is
55:32 <Brunius> Somewhere in the back of the field guide
55:36 <Brunius> I saw it yesterday
55:40 <Ballig> extremely fashionable gives him a bonus while wearing expensive clothing
55:41 <Avatar> that isn't mentioned on his sheet
55:52 <Brunius> Might be something else that he's using
55:53 <Brunius> I dunno
56:16 <Avatar> he wears noble's robes
56:42 <Avatar> it may be that I can't read his sheet properly
56:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> are noble's robes expensive enough?
57:15 <Avatar> 75gp
57:21 <Avatar> how much does the trait require?
57:24 <Ballig> dunno
57:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> no idea, I don't do munchkin
57:46 <Ballig> worth at least 150gp
57:48 <Avatar> Benefit: Whenever you are wearing clothing and/or jewelry worth at least 150 gp (and not otherwise covered in gore, sewage, or other things that mar your overall look), you gain a +1 trait bonus on Bluff, Diplomacy, and Intimidate checks. One of these skills (your choice) is a class skill for you.
58:31 <Avatar> oh wait, it's "jewel-encrusted" and he paid 150gp for it
58:34 <Avatar> I guess that counts
58:43 <Ballig> jewel encrused robes?
58:45 <Ballig> that sounds gaudy
59:04 <Avatar> can't imagine where you'd find that
59:33 <Avatar> yeah I can't see the day job roll thing 
59:52 <Avatar> is it a synthesist summoner ability?
59:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> ffs, found a den (not zoo) of mummies and a few deths
00:06 <Brunius> deths are pretty easy
00:10 <Ballig> it wouldn't be a class ability
00:11 <Ballig> day jobs are PFS only
00:12 <Avatar> fused link / fused eidolon
01:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> Brunius; you playing on rogue?
01:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> going rogue*
01:31 <Brunius> Elves
01:41 <Avatar> elves is good to begin with
01:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> of course deths are easily on elves
01:44 <Avatar> I did die a fair bit 
03:03 <Brunius> Civ 4 seems to be entirely hitting the enter button so far
03:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> yay a zoo
03:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> time to fucked up
03:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> or hope fireball + firewall kills them all
05:00 <Avatar> zoos frequently got me killed no matter how powered up I was
05:07 <Avatar> don't get cocky, they are bigger than they look
05:12 <Avatar> no pun intended
05:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
05:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> fireball spam worked
06:02 <Avatar> you couldn't be finished that quickly
06:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> well, I opened it and backed off whilst my wyrmling stopped them
06:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> not yet, but the majoraity is dead
08:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> 1 wight left
08:11 <Brunius> Avatar, you got coal on steam?
08:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> coal?
08:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
08:46 <Avatar> yeah
08:52 <Avatar> :(
09:03 <Brunius> I will trade you one coal for one coal
09:05 <Brunius> Sound good?
09:10 <Brunius> It will net us more gifts
09:51 <Avatar> really?
09:57 <Avatar> how does that work
09:58 <Brunius> Yes
10:04 <Brunius> It's one of the objectives for today
10:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> fuck, I think I just killed myself
10:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> FUCK FUCK FUCK
10:07 <Brunius> We have to trade stuff
10:53 <Avatar> yeah I don't like permadeath
11:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> thuamite infection is the worst trap ever
11:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> fucked me over
12:03 <Avatar> how does that trade help us now
12:08 <Avatar> oh, objective
13:11 <Brunius> Yeah
15:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> steam needs more co-op games
16:04 <Avatar> coop games ARE cool
16:11 <Avatar> oh uh
16:21 <Avatar> does it help putting important stuff in capital letters during Wall of Texts ?
16:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> wait... wait...
16:27 <Avatar> during a PFS game
16:35 <Brunius> Kinda
16:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar; you shouldn't have to give hints
17:04 <Avatar> I am trying to find a way to simplify that without it giving everyone a headache at the beginning and throughout
17:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> and sacred 2 might be doable XD
17:06 <Avatar> you sort of do though
17:13 <Brunius> Is everyone else getting the wierd symbols in wall of texts?
17:13 <Avatar> we regularly lose track of what we're meant to be doing
17:25 <Avatar> what weird symbols
17:46 <Avatar> I paste it into notepad first, so there should be none
17:47 <Brunius> Like random tms and stuff
17:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> well if you lose track, it's the players fault
18:04 <Avatar> wall of texts are confusing by design
18:38 <Avatar> normally it would be a full conversation
18:45 <Avatar> I tried that the first time, but it's generally one-sided
19:11 <Avatar> there's a paragraph about what he's diong, a paragraph or two of background, a paragraph of two about what needs to be done
19:18 <Brunius> They're OK IRL
19:19 <Avatar> and if you're lucky there won't be a paragraph of flavour after that
19:31 <Ballig> you can talk them over skype
19:32 <Avatar> even in person is a pain
19:39 <Avatar> I find in person is worse
19:44 <Avatar> on IRC I read it over 3 or 4 times
19:48 <Avatar> and refer back later
19:52 <Ballig> yeah
19:56 <Avatar> if I don't have the notes in person, I'm screwed
19:58 <Ballig> I like having the text there to refer back to
20:04 <Ballig> "shit, what was that guy's name? let me do a quick search"
20:11 <Avatar> at cons you'll see me feverishly writing notes
20:14 <Brunius> I write it down in a notebook IRL
20:18 <Brunius> Just the key stuff
20:22 <Brunius> I have a decent memory
20:24 <Brunius> Unlike Avatar
20:28 <Brunius> That's probably his problem
20:30 <Avatar> yeah you can imagine what it's like for me
20:40 <Avatar> I rely on the party to fill in the blanks if I miss something, and I hate it
20:49 <Avatar> doesn't have to be so on IRC
21:09 <Brunius> In the field guide, you can get a chronicler, which allows you to ask the DM to recount something he's said previously
21:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> just use a notebook
21:27 <Avatar> how much is a chronicler
21:32 <Brunius> PA
21:35 <Brunius> I can't remember how much
21:36 <Avatar> fuck that !
21:40 <Avatar> just ask the DM to repeat it anyway
21:41 <Brunius> Don't you have the guide?
21:45 <Avatar> yeah
21:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> they can say sucks to be you avatar if you don't have it
21:59 <Avatar> they never do though
22:00 <Ballig> I don't think it's unreasonable for the DM to determine whether you would have remembered something
22:03 <Brunius> It's fairly near the back, under vanities
22:04 <Ballig> even if you have to make an ability check for it
22:30 <Ballig> your characters are meant to be separate from your player
22:31 <Avatar> the thing is, without a chronicler, they're even less likely to just leave you empty-handed 
22:36 <Avatar> and will give you what your mission is 
22:37 <Ballig> if Avatar is playing a character with a great memory, he should be allowed to do that
22:40 <Ballig> even if his own memory sucks
22:50 <Avatar> so you can get what's important, without a chronicler
22:54 <Avatar> or you can spend PA to get the useless info as well
22:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> you
23:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> you'd ge to roll
23:09 <Avatar> I remember seeing a feat that allowed you to have a photographic memory to do the same thing
23:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you won't just be given the whole speal again without anything
23:16 <Avatar> possibly in 3.5
23:37 <Brunius> 'sif you'd pay a feat for that
23:45 <Avatar> or prestige !
24:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> not as bad as that Wod Talent
24:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> WoD*
24:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> forgot the exact name, but it allowed you to ask the DM if what they are thinking of doing is a good idea or not
24:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> and they have to answer it truthfully based on what the player knows
24:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> character knows*
27:08 <Avatar> it's occured to me that if we don't want to ruin our characters by playing low tier with newbies, we could replay scenarios to help them get their levels up and just not get credit for the replay
28:24 <Ballig> didn't you refuse that when I recommended it
29:05 <Avatar> probably
29:08 <Avatar> I want my credit
29:12 <Brunius> Sounds like Avatar
29:38 <Avatar> mekkis might not have that option if he's played everything though
31:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> could get eye and play that co-op
31:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I like the game, and it's cheap :P
31:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> like $2.49 cheap
32:25 <Avatar> I bought bully last night
32:30 <Avatar> I really want to not buy anymore games
32:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> even $2.49 games?
32:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
32:59 <Avatar> yeah
33:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> if I knew you and bruno would be playing it a lot, I'd be tempted to gift them
33:06 <Avatar> back to the future is good and on sale if you don't have it yet
33:11 <Avatar> $10 for 5 episodes
33:18 <Avatar> normally $25
33:32 <Avatar> don't get frozen synapse, worst game ever
33:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> I prefer either co-op games, multiplayer games, or fucklong single player games
33:56 <Avatar> saints row the third is supposed to be amazing, but I still wouldn't get it at the $60 pricetag it has now
34:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> and I torrented frozen, it was ok, but I'm not gonna pay for it
34:19 <Avatar> I hassled someone else into going into a 2-pack with me 
34:24 <Avatar> on someone else's recommendation
34:37 <Avatar> I actually have a youtube video of the game worth watching, hang on
35:19 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMiHlh7Fdkk
36:27 <Thelen> heh
37:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> how does he win?
37:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> you both had 1 guy left?
38:44 <Avatar> I don't know
38:57 <Avatar> the game actually ended like that, the video isn't cut off
39:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea I bet
39:12 <Avatar> it has a tutorial but it's quite a steep learning curve
39:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar; you like FPS with RPG elements right?
39:29 <Avatar> yeah
39:32 <Avatar> I liked borderlands
39:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'll give you a video to watch
39:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> and you decide if you want it (this is for E.Y.E.
40:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'll get it for you if you'll play it
40:57 <Avatar> fair enough, show me
41:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHMDii8puQ
41:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's one
41:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't think it's the one I watch (might of just watched the steam trailer/video)
42:33 <Avatar> looks good, what are you meant to be trying to do
42:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> you do missions
43:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> in each map (the maps get quite big)
43:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> there is main mission, but there are also sub missions
43:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> per map
43:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> and you can go back to previously finished maps to do more missions
44:45 <Avatar> 4-pack option and it has coop
45:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've already got it
45:24 <Avatar> did you buy a 4 pack
45:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> depends how much the 4pack costs
45:35 <Avatar> $1.87 per
45:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> not yet, but the price is tempting
45:59 <Thelen> 4pack of what
46:02 <Thelen> ur mumma?
46:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> NO GAME FOR YOU
46:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
46:28 <Avatar> have you played killing floor
46:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> WTF
46:39 <Avatar> seems a lot like that
46:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea played it, not the biggest fan of it
46:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea kinda
46:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> but more RPG
46:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> less spam
47:00 <Avatar> okay count me in
47:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> also, can't buy the 4pack, even as a gift
47:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> FUCKING STEAM IS GHEY
47:45 <Thelen> what game?
47:53 <Avatar> eye
47:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> E.Y.E.
48:01 <Avatar> is anyone definitely available to play PFS tomorrow
48:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> divine cybermancy
48:09 <Thelen> what is that?
48:14 <Avatar> whenever
48:34 <Avatar> I'd rather play some PFS tomorrow than not
48:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> an fps with rpg elements
52:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> I could buy the game on your account avatar XD
52:36 <Avatar> gift it
52:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> can't buy a 4pack of a game you already own
52:57 <Avatar> oh
53:01 <Avatar> do you have 3 others
53:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> not yet, but I do have brunius (he's up for most games XD)
53:30 <Avatar> thelen you in?
53:35 <Avatar> do you play FPS's
54:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> lets see if trading gets anywhere :P
54:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> ??? where do you get coal?
54:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> from doing the achievements or something?
54:35 <Avatar> don't know
54:37 <Thelen> Avatar yea bro
54:39 <Avatar> it appeared as part of the great pile
54:43 <Avatar> Thelen: what's your username
55:03 <Avatar> just need 1 more
55:20 <Thelen> thelen_shar
55:51 <Avatar> who's the hot chick in your profile pic
55:59 <Thelen> wtf these morons adding me on steam :/
56:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
56:09 <Thelen> Jewel Staite  :D
56:14 <Avatar> is it
56:17 <Avatar> no way
56:21 <Thelen> firefly and sga
56:29 <Avatar> you don't need to clarify who jewel statie is
56:31 <Ballig> jewel staite is hot as
56:33 <Avatar> staite*
56:35 <Thelen> :D
56:38 <Avatar> yeah but she doesn't look like that
56:39 <Thelen> i know
56:48 <Thelen> she did a shoot
56:58 <Avatar> she looks like rogue from xmen in that photo
57:06 <Thelen> yea
57:56 <Avatar> where is Horace_Myrthit
58:01 <Thelen> hmmm
58:05 <Avatar> bloody americanos
58:05 <Thelen> frozen synapse looks awesome
58:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's shit
58:14 <Avatar> it's bloody hard to play
58:16 <Thelen> oh?
58:19 <Thelen> oh
58:20 <Avatar> yeah
58:27 <Thelen> looks awesome
58:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> dude achron is easier
58:35 <Thelen> uhm anyone seen warsoup? :D
58:39 <Avatar> have you got it spaceshot
58:39 <Thelen> can't wait for that
58:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> got what?
58:52 <Avatar> frozen synapse
58:58 <Thelen> fuck
59:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> torrented it
59:03 <Thelen> introversion cancelled subversion
59:04 <Thelen> dammit
59:04 <Avatar> it's been part of the humble bundle before
59:09 <Thelen> ah
59:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea missed both bundles
59:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> sorry, all 3 bundles
59:30 <Avatar> what were you trying to trade me
59:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> seeing if I could give you my already used EYE
59:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> so I could buy the 4pack :P
00:09 <Avatar> you can't trade a game you've played
00:17 <Avatar> I'm asking someone on steam
00:33 <Avatar> are you sure brunius is in
00:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> dunno, doesn't sound like it
00:56 <Thelen> u guys ever play DEFCON?
01:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> if it's just you 2 then I'm fine not getting the 4pack
01:02 <Avatar> I tried defcon
01:08 <Thelen> fricken awesome
01:09 <Avatar> I didn't like it playing the tutorial
01:10 <Thelen> no ones plays it any more
01:15 <Thelen> :(
01:26 <Avatar> frozen synapse is actually a bit like that
01:34 <Thelen> ah
02:08 <Avatar> my mate on steam might be game, he is checking trailers
02:15 <Avatar> we will still need one more if brunius hasn't confirmed
02:24 <Avatar> unless you are willing to pay his share if he doesn't want it
02:38 <Avatar> I'm happy to hang onto it until you want to gift it to someone else if that's the case
02:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm
03:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> BRUNIUS WHERE THE FUCK ARE YOU????
04:33 <Ballig> doesn't brunius have a shady past with 4-packs
05:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> he's getting a gift
05:42 <Avatar> I think he's paid up since then
05:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar is getting the initial 4pac
05:48 <Avatar> the problem was the bankcard
05:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
06:06 <Avatar> that was pretty terribly shit though
06:13 <Avatar> like 6 months 
06:22 <Ballig> yeah Avatar had to eat only 2-minute noodles for that six months
06:33 <Avatar> ye
06:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> what game?
06:53 <Ballig> while Brunius was living it up in his Terraria house
06:56 <Avatar> terraria
07:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
07:09 <Ballig> probably eating gold bricks
07:14 <Ballig> cooked on a hellforge
07:25 <Avatar> pretty much !
07:49 <Brunius> What
07:57 <Avatar> do you want in on this 4-pack for EYE
08:01 <Avatar> $1.87, one slot left
08:05 <Brunius> EYE
08:09 <Avatar> yeah EYE
08:28 <Ballig> you know Avatar will hound you for the $1.87
08:31 <Avatar> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-yHMDii8puQ
08:32 <Ballig> that's like two packets of 2 minute noodles
08:45 <Brunius> Less
08:55 <Avatar> you in?
08:56 <Ballig> depends whether you get them in bulk
08:58 <Brunius> Maybe
09:05 <Brunius> Let me take a look at the game first
09:06 <Brunius> geez
09:15 <Ballig> man
09:20 <Avatar> I'm about to give it away to someone else
09:23 <Ballig> I would laugh my ass off transferring $1.87 to someone
09:24 <Brunius> Go on then
09:34 <Thelen> what about DETOUR
09:44 <Brunius> Ballig: I transferred 3.99 to Avatar the other day, and the bank staff were just like "...wtf?"
09:52 <Thelen> lol Brunius
09:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> detour sounds like a fun 5-10mins
09:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> but that's about it
10:01 <Ballig> I pay the $2 ATM fee just because I don't want to be b othered walking an extra 2 minutes to my own ATM
10:07 <Avatar> okay we have 4
10:10 <Thelen> who cares, its only $2
10:11 <Brunius> :S
10:15 <Ballig> yeah exactly
10:18 <Brunius> How much is it individually?
10:23 <Avatar> $2.50
10:27 <Thelen> idk <7.5
10:28 <Brunius> Oh man!
10:28 <Thelen> .4
10:32 <Thelen> ./4
10:33 <Avatar> $2.50 today
10:34 <Ballig> you just cost Brunius like 70 cents
10:36 <Avatar> it's normally like $7.50
10:37 <Brunius> A whole 70c saving!
10:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> yep
10:53 <Avatar> uh, it's actually in USD
10:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> + I don't really care if you pay me back (it's fuck cheap)
10:59 <Avatar> what is the US dollar like at the moment
11:03 <Ballig> how's the Australian dollar like at the moment
11:05 <Brunius> Essentially 1-1
11:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm buying it on avatar's account, at least thats what I last remember
11:18 <Avatar> I just bought it
11:20 <Avatar> don't you buy it too
11:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh
11:27 <Ballig> should I buy it too
11:32 <Avatar> yeah everyone buy a 4-pack each
11:44 <Ballig> then we can use the spares to advertise this channel
11:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> I can give you the cash for the 4pack if you really want it avatar :P
12:01 <Ballig> yeah he needs it, he's on the dole
12:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> he
12:09 <Thelen> XD
12:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> he's probably on similar dole to me
12:15 <Avatar> acc: 599801 bsb: 064707
12:18 <Ballig> you're on disability pension
12:21 <Ballig> that pays shitloads more
12:24 <Brunius> ...
12:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope
12:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm on youth allowance
12:36 <Thelen> lol Ballig
12:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> I should be on disability
12:44 <Avatar> looks like you're forced to use this shit new trading system
12:44 <Brunius> Are you guys competing over how much you get for free from the govt?
12:46 <Avatar> to gift games
13:10 <Ballig> make them give you games in return
13:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> but I don't think dysthesia (only thing somewhat diagnosed, didn't get a slip saying I have it though but was told by the psych, yet)
13:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> is enough
13:53 <Ballig> dysesthesia?
14:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't remember how it's spelt
14:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> basically total apathy for life
14:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> with a side of depression
14:21 <Ballig> that isn't it then I don't think
14:28 <Ballig> dysesthesia is a super sensitive touch
14:41 <Brunius> You seem pretty apathetic Spaceshot
14:42 <Ballig> I knew people at the homeless shelter who were on disability for depression, though
14:47 <Brunius> wtf?
14:49 <Ballig> it's all about what your doctor is willing to certify
14:58 <Avatar> okay, all gifts transferred
15:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea, doctor suggested going to a psych
15:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> didn't even care to sign or write up anything
15:17 <Thelen> muahahhaha
15:21 <Thelen> Avatar fell for my trick
15:26 <Thelen> i deliberately just signed up with you guys
15:30 <Thelen> and played PFS
15:31 <Ballig> did you get a free $1.87 game :O
15:33 <Thelen> just to get a free game
15:35 <Avatar> what !
15:36 <Ballig> haha
15:36 <Thelen> muahahahaha
15:37 <Ballig> man
15:40 <Avatar> you're fired
15:40 <Thelen> so worth it
15:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> even though I basically had full numbers on the Stress Depression and angsiety test
15:43 <Ballig> I would pay people $1.87 to play games with us
15:48 <Thelen> >_>
15:53 <Ballig> though maybe I shouldn't say that
15:53 <Avatar> this explains not wanting to level up !
15:56 <Ballig> or else Avatar will demand payment
15:57 <Thelen> haha
16:00 <Thelen> uhm so whats the story
16:05 <Thelen> with the 4 pack?
16:09 <Thelen> do i buy 4pack of some other game?
16:16 <Avatar> no netbank me the $
16:19 <Ballig> no Avatar will come to your house and demand the money
16:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> you 3 or 4 download the game
16:22 <Ballig> he will have a cricket bat with him
16:33 <Brunius> You're in Ringwood right Thelen?
16:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> and in about 30mins-2hrs we'll play (depends on speed)
16:39 <Avatar> 5 gig
16:39 <Thelen> no, Frankstone
16:40 <Avatar> good grief
16:44 <Thelen> -e
16:45 <Brunius> Frankstoned
16:47 <Thelen> ;)
17:03 <Brunius> Sweet full tools in my main colony
17:07 <Thelen> mmm wonder if netbank even lets me
17:14 <Thelen> main colony?
17:18 <Ballig> it probably charges you a trainsfer fee
17:23 <Ballig> (he's playing Civ IV... or V)
17:31 <Brunius> 4
17:36 <Thelen> ah
17:37 <Brunius> Colonisation
17:40 <Avatar> there's no transfer fee
17:53 <Brunius> The bank staff just claim there is
17:58 <Thelen> barely worth my time to send that little
17:58 <Brunius> It's about $4 apparently
18:09 <Ballig> there's a fee if you go into the bank itself
18:15 <Thelen> yea
18:15 <Ballig> because you are using their staff to do it
18:16 <Brunius> Oh is there?
18:23 <Brunius> Apparently there isn't on my account
18:29 <Ballig> there's also a withdrawal fee when you go in the bank i think
18:30 <Thelen> depends on ur acc
18:31 <Brunius> They won't let me have internet banking yet
18:34 <Ballig> whereas ATM outside will be free
18:45 <Ballig> they might waive in-bank fees because they won't give you internet banking
18:54 <Thelen> av i need a name?
18:55 <Brunius> It's probably my account
19:02 <Brunius> Student Account, no fees, ever
19:06 <Brunius> It's sweet
19:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm still on student
19:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> and I'm 20
19:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
19:19 <Thelen> lucky bastages
19:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> got it when I was 16, and I think out of school :P
19:32 <Ballig> take advantage of it Brunius
19:37 <Brunius> It's if you're enrolled at an education institution Spaceshot_tm2
19:37 <Avatar> Thelen: Tony Buttafuoco
19:39 <Ballig> go into the bank with 100 slips to transfer 1c
19:42 <Brunius> Ha
19:47 <Ballig> to different accounts
19:48 <Avatar> you shouldn't need that though
19:56 <Thelen> lolol
19:58 <Thelen> i do
20:00 <Thelen> netbank
20:01 <Brunius> They wanted the branch when I transferred Avatar
20:08 <Brunius> (It's Mackay, btw)
20:10 <Thelen> interesting
20:14 <Thelen> it didn't ask me to SMS confirm
20:16 <Avatar> shouldn't need it
20:16 <Thelen> probably too little
20:22 <Avatar> even if they ask for it
20:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> wait, which bank brunius?
20:29 <Ballig> the name isn't used to identify the account
20:30 <Brunius> Bendigo
20:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh
20:36 <Ballig> my branch is Caloundra
20:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm with commonwealth
20:40 <Ballig> I've wondered if I should bother changing it
20:41 <Brunius> lol
20:55 <Ballig> I haven't lived there in 12 years
21:28 <Brunius> Sweet population increase
21:34 <Thelen> New charges $5,700.70
21:34 <Thelen> Payments/Refunds - $4 ,663.36
21:35 <Thelen> lawl
21:51 <Avatar> I'm downloading eye at 1.7mb/sec
21:56 <Avatar> 19%
21:57 <Thelen> 5700.70  XD
22:16 <Thelen> yea 1.5MB/s for me
22:19 <Thelen> 25minutes
22:29 <Brunius> I need a better network card
22:33 <Ballig> where's my copy
22:37 <Brunius> After I get a better graphics card
22:38 <Avatar> you don't play FPS's
22:43 <Avatar> or I would've asked you
22:47 <Ballig> I have left4dead and team fortress
22:52 <Avatar> you don't play them
23:00 <Avatar> do you like them
23:03 <Ballig> I've played them
23:06 <Brunius> I'd be up for another 4 pack if one goes around
23:14 <Avatar> go in with one with ballig
23:16 <Avatar> he wants to play
23:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> I thought bruno got he EYE 4pack XD
23:58 <Brunius> Nope
24:10 <Ballig> Avatar didn't trust him
24:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
24:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> who's got the 4th then avatar?
24:44 <Brunius> Was it Khaznub?
24:47 <Avatar> two of my mates
24:49 <Avatar> icey and kerlz
25:04 <Avatar> ballig and icey don't get along
25:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> I like icey already
25:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
25:15 <Avatar> khaz is hardcore at fps'
25:21 <Ballig> we get along
25:28 <Ballig> one disagreement is not "don't get along"
25:28 <Avatar> he's the guy you don't want to play against in counterstrike
25:36 <Ballig> what
25:53 <Brunius> CS or CSS
25:53 <Ballig> oh, khaz
25:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> Ballig; do we get along?
25:53 <Brunius> Cos I am pro at CS
25:53 <Avatar> both
25:53 <Brunius> CSS is crap though
25:57 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: hard to say, you're a classic troll
26:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't troll on purpose
26:06 <Avatar> icey has a tendency to hold grudges
26:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's just how I was raised
26:27 <Thelen> pfff
26:28 <Ballig> well, "icey is holding a grudge against Ballig because of a disagreement" is different to "icey and Ballig don't get along"
26:32 <Thelen> thats what hitler and stalin said
26:46 <Avatar> well I thought it was mutual
26:50 <Ballig> nup
26:52 <Thelen> mm you should play me in Q3
26:53 <Thelen> fuck CS
26:54 <Avatar> you have a tendency to hold grudges don't you
27:03 <Ballig> usually not after one disagreement
27:07 <Ballig> unless it was a spectacular disagreement
27:17 <Avatar> I dunno the one I remember was pretty spectacular
27:22 <Thelen> Ballig is like grumpy in the Smurfs
27:22 <Ballig> you, Icey and I played starcraft 2 for ages before we had a disagreement in one game
27:28 <Thelen> mmm we should play SC2 :D
27:30 <Avatar> I've never heard a yelling match like that before
27:32 <Thelen> on US servers, uber better maps
27:39 <Brunius> I still don't have SC2
27:43 <Thelen> get it
27:45 <Brunius> I should pick it up someday
27:50 <Avatar> you missed out on the best part
27:53 <Thelen> get the SEA edition, so you get NA as well
27:55 <Avatar> go get anaylsed
28:03 <Ballig> yeah, parasite was the best
28:04 <Ballig> when people played it
28:07 <Avatar> Thelen: did you ever play parasite
28:13 <Thelen> not sure
28:14 <Thelen> SEA?
28:17 <Ballig> yeah
28:19 <Avatar> if enough of us wanted to play it we could get a group into it
28:22 <Thelen> oh wait, i remember that
28:23 <Ballig> back before the american servers were available to us
28:26 <Thelen> space station
28:27 <Thelen> land
28:28 <Avatar> YEP
28:29 <Ballig> yeah
28:29 <Thelen> and space
28:33 <Thelen> yea i played that
28:34 <Avatar> how good was it
28:34 <Ballig> Thelen is the para
28:34 <Thelen> was epic fun
28:43 <Avatar> I would get real abusive
28:45 <Thelen> i only played with myself though, but the other players
28:46 <Ballig> haha
28:48 <Thelen> sometimes they had party
28:48 <Ballig> it was great
28:50 <Avatar> ballig loved it
28:51 <Ballig> and trolling was super fun on it
28:53 <Thelen> and i could here them
28:54 <Avatar> he started getting abusive too
28:55 <Thelen> yea lol
28:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> was I around when you guys were playing para, cause I think I remember it
29:00 <Thelen> parasite was epic party games
29:08 <Ballig> yeah
29:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> thought so
29:12 <Avatar> one of the best games I remember
29:17 <Avatar> was when the parasite went and got analysed
29:19 <Ballig> it was great when you played with someone you knew
29:20 <Avatar> with 3 other guys there
29:21 <Ballig> and one of you was the parasite
29:24 <Ballig> holy shit you could fuck with people
29:26 <Thelen> i played mostly CLW nexus bunker wars, and the other couple TUGs, i forget the main one :/
29:40 <Avatar> we were all stunned for a second that he actually came up as ALIEN
29:44 <Ballig> haha
29:45 <Thelen> lol
29:52 <Ballig> it could be a potential tactic
29:58 <Avatar> yeah but he just stood there
30:00 <Ballig> if you could expect people to forget to actually analyse you
30:03 <Brunius> Shit why is this man-o-war camping outside my colony
30:05 <Ballig> and think that because you showed up you have to be human
30:07 <Avatar> we abused him to go get analysed and he did it
30:14 <Avatar> like we bullied him into losing
30:18 <Thelen> hahaha
30:19 <Ballig> haha
30:26 <Thelen> yea i seen a few of those type games
30:32 <Thelen> onetime the reverse
30:35 <Ballig> avatar and I were great when one of us was the parasite
30:36 <Thelen> the parasite trolled everyne else
30:39 <Ballig> they didn't even get the analyser going
30:44 <Ballig> we'd coordinate attacks on the supply bays
30:49 <Thelen> and he blew up the station
30:54 <Thelen> while they were all being tested
31:05 <Thelen> was epic lulz
31:06 <Avatar> blowing up the station is too damn hard
31:10 <Ballig> yeah
31:13 <Avatar> I always got shot down when I tried :(
31:18 <Thelen> well he trolled them good
31:23 <Ballig> having a non-parasite turn the power off is good too
31:29 <Avatar> YEP
31:30 <Thelen> haha
31:30 <Ballig> because if you get caught you can go analyse and prove you're not the parasite
31:33 <Thelen> yea
31:40 <Avatar> and people chase you down
31:43 <Ballig> and pretend you were just checking the power room
31:45 <Avatar> IT WASN'T ME
31:46 <Ballig> to make sure the parasite wasn't there
31:52 <Avatar> stop fucking shooting me !
31:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh, so that's why avatar kept saying go get analysed
31:54 <Ballig> haha yeah
31:55 <Thelen> haha
31:55 <Thelen> yea
31:57 <Ballig> yeah
32:06 <Ballig> if you thought someone was the parasite you would insist they get analysed
32:12 <Ballig> if they didn't, you could be almost assured they were the parasite
32:14 <Ballig> and they became KoS
32:22 <Avatar> if they claimed they were getting stuff for a mech, you'd demand they get analysed
32:25 <Avatar> even though they were trying to help you
32:30 <Ballig> haha
32:31 <Avatar> if they weren't lying
32:40 <Thelen> man lets fire it up and play
32:43 <Avatar> hahah
32:44 <Thelen> should still be in the map list
32:48 <Avatar> need more than 3 people
32:55 <Thelen> we got 4?
32:56 <Avatar> others don't play it anymore
33:01 <Avatar> who's #4
33:04 <Ballig> it's not as fun if you know everyone who's playing
33:07 <Thelen> me av ball space/
33:13 <Ballig> you need to be able to troll people
33:13 <Avatar> do you have sc2 spaceshot
33:13 <Brunius> shit only 53 turns to win
33:19 <Avatar> you need about 8-10 people
33:23 <Thelen> yea
33:28 <Thelen> invite friends
33:28 <Avatar> we could camp a room and see if others join
33:29 <Thelen> etc
33:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> nah didn't get sc2
33:36 <Thelen> oh
33:39 <Ballig> spaceshot would have loved parasite
33:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> but I did play about 3 or 4 free accounts
33:44 <Ballig> the natural troll in him would have actually been useful
33:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
33:47 <Thelen> yea lol
33:48 <Avatar> haha
34:02 <Thelen> we'd just get them started with a subtle hint
34:02 <Ballig> everyone would be convinced he was the parasite
34:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> we so need to play a game of paranoia in here
34:09 <Ballig> while you, as the real parasite, would be causing chaos
34:12 <Thelen> :D
34:16 <Ballig> we have played paranoia in here
34:22 <Thelen> what is paranoi?
34:23 <Brunius> ha
34:24 <Thelen> a
34:27 <Brunius> Paranoia
34:35 <Avatar> I don't really understand paranoia to be honest
34:39 <Avatar> it's too weird for me
34:40 <Thelen> sc2 map?
34:44 <Ballig> nah it's a tabletop RPG
34:45 <Avatar> it's a d20 game
34:47 <Thelen> ahhhh
34:58 <Thelen> we should play cheat
34:59 <Avatar> somehow we don't have it listed in campaigns
35:01 <Ballig> everyone is a mutant
35:04 <Ballig> but being a mutant is a death sentence
35:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> thelen, seen logans run?
35:08 <Ballig> so you have to keep it from everyone else
35:10 <Thelen> yea Spaceshot_tm2
35:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's based in logans run
35:18 <Avatar> what is cheat
35:18 <Thelen> ah
35:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> to a major extence
35:21 <Thelen> card game
35:23 <Thelen> or dice game
35:57 <Thelen> even
35:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> rpg
35:57 <Avatar> ahh yeah I've played the card game
35:57 <Thelen> u can play with cards or dice
35:57 <Avatar> my oldest brother used to love it because he would REGULARLY cheat
35:57 <Ballig> ha
35:57 <Avatar> and my other brother is gullible and I was 10 years younger than them
35:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> being a mutant is death, being in a secret society is death
35:57 <Thelen> well i'd always troll
35:57 <Avatar> therefore also gullible
36:00 <Thelen> i'd cheat
36:03 <Thelen> and pick up the pack
36:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> you're a mutant in a secret society
36:15 <Thelen> then i could actually put the cards down
36:18 <Thelen> and they'd call cheat
36:19 <Thelen> and be wrong
36:22 <Thelen> then i'd do it again
36:25 <Thelen> as an actual cheat
36:27 <Thelen> but they'd not call
36:30 <Thelen> then i'd do it a 3rd time
36:37 <Thelen> and it'd be the real cards again
36:43 <Thelen> i remember one game i said 10 sixes like 4x in a row
36:51 <Ballig> sounds like a non-pool version of macro polo
36:52 <Thelen> wait maybe not 10
36:58 <Ballig> er, marco
37:00 <Thelen> 3 decks
37:03 <Brunius> macro polo!
37:04 <Thelen> yea like 7 sixes
37:07 <Thelen> lol
37:11 <Ballig> is this like that game in pirates of the caribbean
37:13 <Brunius> You have to macro your way to the other people
37:17 <Thelen> yea Ballig
37:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> how long you 2 till eye?
37:47 <Thelen> 10m
38:02 <Ballig> I am going to send Avatar something big so it takes him longer
38:03 <Avatar> 84% here
38:11 <Avatar> you won't send me anything
38:19 <Avatar> I've put you on ignore for the next x minutes
38:31 <Avatar> blocking you on msn and so forth
38:54 <Ballig> haha
38:57 <Avatar> man I'd love to shut this terraria server down
39:01 <Ballig> do it
39:06 <Brunius> Hasn't it been shut down already?
39:08 <Avatar> I've got about 1 person logging on every 2-3 days
39:09 <Avatar> no
39:11 <Brunius> I haven't been able to get on for ages
39:16 <Brunius> I assumed you'd shut it down
39:17 <Avatar> can you get on now?
39:21 <Ballig> because his dyndns hasn't updated
42:03 <Brunius> Hang on let me start steam
42:03 <Avatar> it has been fucked up once or twice
42:03 <Avatar> check with me before assuming it's been shut down
42:03 <Ballig> I'm shutting it down right now
42:03 <Avatar> you're not doin' nothing
42:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'll roll up a new eye character
42:03 <Avatar> 95%
42:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> thelen?
42:03 <Thelen> whaa?
42:03 <Avatar> wassup?
42:03 <Brunius> IP Avatar?
42:03 <Avatar> virtue.dyndns.biz
42:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> you finished?
42:03 <Thelen> 10m
42:03 <Avatar> finished now
42:03 <Brunius> Yep
42:03 <Ballig> wasn't it 10m about 10m ago
42:03 <Thelen> no
42:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar, I'll host now just as a practice host
42:03 <Ballig> [4:37:15 PM] <Thelen> 10m
42:03 <Ballig> 10m about 4m ago
42:08 <Avatar> we don't need to wait for this joker
42:11 <Avatar> let's get started on a real game
42:19 <Ballig> can I play
42:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> do you have it?
42:28 <Ballig> i'll download it now
42:32 <Avatar> no you won't
42:33 <Thelen> 5m now
42:36 <Avatar> you said you would but you won't
42:37 <Ballig> oh :(
42:38 <Ballig> so I can't play
42:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> as in bought or torrent?
42:44 <Avatar> you can, but you won't
42:53 <Ballig> Avatar isn't letting me
42:57 <Avatar> oh I'll let you 
43:00 <Avatar> you just won't
43:05 <Avatar> you're like a game refuser
43:11 <Avatar> your eyes are shut
43:13 <Ballig> what's a game refuser
43:21 <Avatar> one who refuses games
43:34 <Avatar> man this iced tea is crap
43:34 <Ballig> what game was I offered that I refused
43:38 <Avatar> EYE
43:44 <Ballig> no one offered me EYE
43:47 <Avatar> your eyes are shut
43:55 <Ballig> how can you afford iced tea
43:58 <Ballig> that's for people who work
43:59 <Brunius> If I'd know EYE was an FPS I would have gone in at once
44:04 <Avatar> I'm funemployed
44:09 <Ballig> what's funemployed
44:13 <Avatar> that's what I am
44:18 <Avatar> Brunius: I linked you a video
44:42 <Avatar> just find 2 other people
44:47 <Avatar> well
44:48 <Avatar> 3 other people
44:50 <Avatar> ballig won't get it
44:50 <Brunius> Doesn't mean I was paying attention
45:03 <Ballig> are you banning me from getting it Avatar
45:07 <Avatar> no
45:12 <Avatar> go in with brunius' 4 pack
45:24 <Avatar> now you only need 2 more brunius
45:47 <Brunius> I can't buy a 4 pack
45:51 <Brunius> Don't have an account
45:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> this game reminds me of shadowrun a bit too
45:59 <Ballig> you don't have a steam account?
46:03 <Avatar> what do you mean you don't have an account
46:47 <Brunius> I don't have an account that steam will take
46:52 <Brunius> They won't take my bank account
47:01 <Avatar> who are you with
47:14 <Avatar> is it becaues you need a credit card
47:35 <Ballig> apply for a credit card
47:49 <Avatar> need to be 18
47:55 <Ballig> Bart Simpson got one
47:59 <Thelen> XXD
48:11 <Avatar> brunius isn't really a cartoon character
48:14 <Avatar> a character, maybe
48:30 <Ballig> I have faith in him
48:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> hope that invite works
49:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> didn't work?
49:35 <Avatar> ok all settings on ridiculously high
49:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> graphics wise?
49:46 <Brunius> I COULD get a prepaid credit card
49:52 <Avatar> yeah
49:57 <Ballig> get your bank to give you one of those debit cards that are also credit cards
49:57 <Avatar> are you setting up a server spaceshot
49:59 <Brunius> But I'd probably miss something
50:07 <Brunius> They won't let me get a debit card until I'm 16 Ballig
50:10 <Brunius> Another year
50:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've invited you, twice
50:16 <Ballig> are you 15 now
50:19 <Ballig> you're almost older than spaceshot
50:20 <Brunius> Yeah
50:23 <Brunius> Ha
50:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
50:34 <Ballig> you will always be 13 to me
50:39 <Brunius> Awww
50:46 <Ballig> just the way I like them
50:46 <Brunius> Isn't that sweee- CREEPYT
50:49 <Brunius> -T
51:25 <Brunius> "Like the tortoise, I like to get there before the hair" - Pedobear
51:32 <Ballig> ha
51:47 <Ballig> Brunius: which First Steps have you done?
52:06 <Brunius> Just II I think
52:15 <Ballig> I will run First Steps 1 at some stage
52:17 <Ballig> also We Be Goblins
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56:15 <Thelen> ok its installed :/
56:21 <Thelen> just wanna get a snack
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57:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> $ip
57:03 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ...
57:37 <Ballig> //say
58:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> tried that
58:41 <Ballig> with the double forwardslash?
58:44 <Ballig> //say $ip
58:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yep
58:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> icechat hates it
58:56 <Ballig> oh
58:59 <Ballig> right, that's a mIRC thing
59:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
59:12 <Ballig> yeah don't listen to Avatar
59:27 <Avatar> you told him the same thing
59:36 <Ballig> only because I saw him already trying it
59:48 <Avatar> nevertheless
59:49 <Ballig> I didn't know you were leading him astray !
00:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha
00:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> there was a password still
00:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that was the issue
00:40 <Ballig> what's the password
00:47 <Spaceshot_tm2_> try again avatar
05:23 <Ballig> is the game aewsome
05:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it is a good game
05:45 <Ballig> is it worth $2.50
05:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> tis
05:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I bought it when it was 10 and I still think it's worth that
06:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it just needs peeps to play with
06:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> cause it's just better with more
07:31 <Avatar> nobody's hosting open servers
07:36 <Avatar> I'll try create
07:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> did you load into that guys
07:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ?
08:27 <Spaceshot_tm2_> say when
10:30 <Avatar> virtue.dyndns.biz password is d20
10:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> did you turn off lan only?
11:19 <Avatar> yeah
11:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> so I should type
12:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> connect virtue.dyndns.biz; password d20
12:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> right?
12:12 <Avatar> I'm getting destroyed
12:17 <Avatar> uh
12:23 <Avatar> I don't know about the console
12:28 <Avatar> add it to your list of servers
12:31 <Avatar> as a favourite
12:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what's the server name?
13:14 <Avatar> Lakukua racha
13:20 <Avatar> lakuka
13:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not on the server list
14:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> go to find servers
14:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you should see mine on the list in internet
14:11 <Avatar> No, add the server
14:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> password is pass
14:26 <Avatar> oh yeah i see yours
14:35 <Avatar> server is not responding
14:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> just forward the port
14:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that might be your issue
14:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I had randoms join this when I had no password
15:48 <Avatar> Do I have not have any fucking guns
15:49 <Thelen> OK DOKEY
15:54 <Avatar> I have a sword and this jet is firing at me
16:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> lets see if thelen can join
16:23 <Thelen> 192.168.1.2 :D
16:28 <Ballig> haha
16:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because I think I remember both host AND connector needs to forward port
16:38 <Ballig> so useful
16:46 <Spaceshot_tm2_> thelen, check find severs
16:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> servers*
16:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I should be on the list
16:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> spaceshot
17:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> password is pass
17:16 <Avatar> better check port forwarding
17:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sorry, pass is dnd
17:36 <Spaceshot_tm2_> forgot I changed that
17:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> LOL
17:41 <Avatar> http://eye.streumon-studio.com/index.php?page=news&news=21
17:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> try again avatar
17:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> pass is dnd
17:58 <Avatar> working now
18:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> lol my bad
18:08 <Thelen> who am i joining
18:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> forgot I changed it from pass
18:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> spaceshot in server browser
18:23 <MekkisScreen> hehe
22:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how hard do you want the game thelen?
23:01 <Thelen> w/e lol
23:02 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I know avatar wants it on bunnies and mushrooms
23:06 <Thelen> yea
23:07 <Thelen> sounds good
23:08 <Avatar> Medium
23:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea, it's on normal (there is like 6 or 7 difficulties)
23:31 <Avatar> whatever, lez go
23:33 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but it's on intense swarm of dudes
23:37 <Ballig> Brunius: you around?
23:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> hosted
24:13 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: did you hear that wikipedia is leaving godaddy because of the SOPA support
24:24 <Thelen> wtf wikipedia is with godaddy?
24:41 <Ballig> yeah
24:45 <Ballig> google is too
46:39 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: I'm planning on leaving godaddy too
50:59 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ...
51:03 <Avatar> WTF happened
51:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig happened
51:25 <Ballig> a guy got all up in my grill
51:30 <Ballig> I blame you people for not telling me how to play
51:35 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you didn't ask
51:38 <Avatar> when did you even join
51:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig, if you ask you get answers
51:53 <Avatar> did you restart it spaceshot
52:13 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea
52:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, if you die, there is a chance your character can get maimed
53:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig, if you press T
53:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it'll load up the tutorial
53:42 <Ballig> I'm having trouble even getting back in the game
53:49 <Ballig> it seems really poorly made
54:12 <Spaceshot_tm2_> then don't play it
54:18 <Avatar> Maybe because you shot some1
55:33 <Ballig> heavens forbid I sh oot someone in an FPS !
55:55 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's an rpg fps
56:49 <Avatar> Why is it changing level
57:06 <Avatar> did somebody do something
16:01 <Ballig> wasn't me that time
16:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> :P
16:41 <Avatar> This is hilarious
30:53 <Nightmare> Ballig, Iron Medusa?
33:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> get to hosting :P
33:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'll brb
33:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> also, don't talk to the guy in the starting deathzone
33:33 <Avatar> say when ballig
33:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'll active him and play on my version
33:40 <Ballig> what am I putting it on
33:43 <Ballig> random map? easy?
33:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> normal
33:52 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and intense
33:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> that's what I was using
34:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> intense just means more dudes to shoot
34:29 <Avatar> that didn't feel very intense
34:31 <Thelen> heh
34:40 <Thelen> twas average
34:51 <Thelen> im hungry might get dinnar
34:56 <Ballig> I think I'm hosting
35:01 <Ballig> made the password dnd
35:20 <Avatar> ip
35:34 <Ballig> 121.45.210.186
35:38 <Ballig> but it should be on the server list as Ballig
36:01 <Spaceshot_tm2_> if it's on the list
36:04 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's connectable
36:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> in
37:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> wrong
37:10 <Spaceshot_tm2_> wrong
37:11 <Spaceshot_tm2_> rehost
37:12 <Ballig> what
37:20 <Spaceshot_tm2_> has to be coop campaign
37:21 <Spaceshot_tm2_> not mission
37:34 <Avatar> Did you boot me
37:40 <Avatar> fu
37:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> he's rehosting
37:49 <Ballig> I wasn't told it had to be campaign
37:50 <Spaceshot_tm2_> he put it as mission not campaign
37:50 <Ballig> :P
38:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> campaign, normal, intense, not lan only
42:32 <Ballig> I can no longer talk in audio
42:34 <Ballig> or hear you guys I don't think
46:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> hmmm
01:23 <Brunius> Ballig did you get a 4-pack?
03:37 <Brunius> Ballig: Godaddy have reversed their position on SOPA support now
03:44 <Ballig> publicly
03:48 <Brunius> Yeah
04:17 <Brunius> Too many people moved away so they were like "Nooooo give us your moneys!"
04:29 <Brunius> I was just reading an article on it
04:45 <Brunius> Did you get a 4-pack?
05:08 <Ballig> I didn't not get a four pack
05:27 <Brunius> Cool
05:36 <Brunius> Can I have a copy?
05:43 <Ballig> never
05:44 <Brunius> You can has...a 50% off Valve voucher!
05:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig you can reset the server/game when we get back to the map
05:57 <Brunius> Or I can just pay you.
05:59 <Brunius> I guess.
06:11 <Brunius> I'm flying up to Canberra on the first
06:40 <Brunius> So I can either give you moneys sometime between the first and the eighth or bank transfer to you
07:02 <Brunius> Seriously man I'm better now
07:07 <Brunius> The problem was a bank account
07:11 <Ballig> dude
07:14 <Ballig> I gifted you a copy li ke 2 hours ago
07:16 <Ballig> when I asked if you were around
07:18 <Brunius> lol did you
07:20 <Avatar> hahaha
07:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the fuck are you avatar?
07:35 <Brunius> lol now I feel like an idiot
07:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ballig's voice sound is fixed now
07:40 <Avatar> I said I am done for now
07:44 <Spaceshot_tm2_> you could be playing by now
07:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ahh
07:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> well, we can stop for now I guess
08:00 <Spaceshot_tm2_> before it gets boring by playing it too much
08:18 <Avatar> there really needs to be more bad guys
08:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ye
08:25 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea
08:27 <Ballig> is intense the highest number of bad guys
08:30 <Brunius> It reckons it will take an hour to longer
08:36 <Brunius> wait what
08:40 <Brunius> to download dammit
08:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> maybe the difficultly after normal, and still intense
08:49 <Brunius> 1.3 MB/s
08:52 <Ballig> yeah
09:01 <Ballig> I was destroying bitches with the heavy machine gun
09:12 <Avatar> I was destroying bitches with my sub machine gun
09:28 <Ballig> I chose three random "genes" though when I began
09:32 <Ballig> I have no idea what they do
09:34 <Avatar> the difficulty after normal would just make the gunshots hurt more
09:37 <Avatar> which isn't what I want
09:46 <Avatar> yeah so did I
12:18 <Brunius> 1.7Mb/s bitches!~
12:42 <Brunius> I should be able to get better than that on this connection
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13:24 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the genes determine how your stats are rolled
15:07 <Brunius> Ballig do you want me to pay you back?
15:13 <Ballig> nope
15:21 <Brunius> ...
19:13 <Avatar> you'd better pay him back man
19:17 <Avatar> otherwise it implies you owe him one
20:04 <Ballig> doesn't work that way
20:35 <Brunius> I think my mouse is fucking up
20:41 <Brunius> Like I need more crap to wrong
21:20 <Brunius> go wrong goddamit
23:03 <Ballig> at least it's not a $150 gaming mouse that is <12 months old
23:07 <Ballig> I was quite annoyed when that happened to me
23:27 <Avatar> my mouse is like 10 years old and still going
23:35 <Brunius> Yeah this mouse has to be getting up there
23:41 <Brunius> Can't have been the best treated either
23:49 <Brunius> After all, my siblings have been using it
23:52 <Avatar> one guy tried to pull it apart about 7 years ago
24:01 <Avatar> still going
24:23 <Brunius> This one has gunk (probably chocolate or something) from a couple of years ago on/in it
24:45 <Brunius> Got another one from the box, planning to hide this from my siblings
41:30 <Thelen> ok im back
55:11 <Avatar> Bully is a pretty cool take on GTA
57:16 <Ballig> what
59:39 <Avatar> The game
00:11 <Avatar> you play a kid in a boarding school
01:05 <Ballig> in grand theft auto?
02:17 <Thelen> XD
02:20 <Thelen> no
02:22 <Thelen> its like GTA
02:59 <Thelen> http://www.google.com/landing/noradsanta/index.html#utm_campaign=en&utm_medium=hpp&utm_source=en-hpp-apac-au-gns-gm&utm_term=norad
05:35 <Thelen> lol
05:38 <Thelen> christmas tree game
11:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> you mean he turned perma death off (at least I think he did that to get that result)
11:10 <Avatar> yeah
11:10 <Ballig> right
11:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> it allows you to experience the game without raging because you keep dying
11:50 <Ballig> that's exactly what he did to get to level 5
11:55 <Ballig> and get the 50k+ point score
12:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> it also allows you to get a good knowledge of what to expect, and thus build acordingly
12:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> you don't want to hit floor 7 and realise you needed good a good range attack and have nothing
12:28 <Avatar> that bolt of mass destruction is worth 8800 zorkmids
12:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> to sell?
12:47 <Avatar> my 50k point score was without reloading
12:50 <Avatar> yeah to sell
12:52 <Ballig> no it wasn't
12:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> nice
12:57 <Ballig> you reloaded after dying
12:59 <Avatar> yes it was don't be a chump
13:04 <Ballig> can you prove it
13:15 <Avatar> I can prove you're a chump if you don't shut up
13:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea avatar, they cost like 20-30k to buy one
13:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've seen one in a shop and was like OMGWTF that must be bullshitly op
14:26 <Avatar> didn't save me from The Zoo
14:34 <Ballig> yeah but then you reloaded so it's okay
14:36 <Avatar> although in fairness, it probably did
14:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> bolt of mass destruction become a lot safer if you've got pyromancy and 2 fire prot rings
14:45 <Avatar> because I killed myself
14:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> it saved you by giving you the fun way to die
15:39 <Brunius> ...
16:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> you have to fire a bolt of mass destruction at least once in dredmor
16:27 <Avatar> don't know if I still want that amulet now that I can afford it
16:32 <Avatar> its' pretty expensive
16:46 <Avatar> seems to just give +1 str and +1 to armor? I think
16:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> wow that's not really worth it
17:19 <Avatar> +1 burlyness and +1 block chance
17:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> I saw one for 12k which was 2 resistance (purple, don't remember what) and 8 health
17:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> if it was 1 absorption it'd be worth it
17:40 <Avatar> necromatic resistance
17:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> but 1 block chance? meh
18:06 <Avatar> burlyness affects a bunch of other attributes though
18:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> who needs to block when you're countering too often, or just 1 shotting monsters
18:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea that part is ok
18:47 <Avatar> check out the tooltip next to the attributes
18:49 <Avatar> there's a tiny ? button
20:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm
23:20 <Brunius> Sweet I got a zombie
34:40 <Avatar> does there ever appear more than one shop a game
34:56 <Avatar> because I've got to say, it's getting tiring travelling all the way back to the top every now and then
37:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> the harder you make the game
37:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> the more shops
38:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> like in 'going rogue' I see 3 shops on the first floor, and I think at least 1 shop each other floor, don't remember
38:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> haven't fully searched floor 2 going rogue in ages
39:18 <Ballig> more shops seems easier not harder
39:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> Ballig; have you play dredmor?
39:58 <Ballig> I've finished it
40:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> so you've finished dungeons of dredmor, the exact game, not a game like it?
40:17 <Ballig> yes
40:22 <Avatar> liar
40:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> doubt it
40:29 <Ballig> how dare you impugn my honour
40:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> prove it
40:43 <Avatar> all I do is reload games
40:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> I wanna see your achievement
40:46 <Avatar> at least I don't lie about it
41:42 <Brunius> Is this chest a companion cube?
42:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> really?
42:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> a companion cube chest?
42:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> there are evil chests which are like that
43:54 <Brunius> This floor seems to be full of them
45:00 <Brunius> Mekkis: More details about this midnight prerelease?
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08:44 <Avatar> Wood: if it's good enough for the trees, it's good enough for you!
09:57 <Brunius> I woodn't say that
10:20 <Avatar> found another shop, this one is huge
13:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea
13:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> some are big some are smal
13:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> small*
13:32 <Avatar> the first one had about 5 items
13:39 <Avatar> this one has about 25
24:37 <Mekkis> wow
24:44 <Mekkis> this is really thrashing my CPU
28:12 <Mekkis> what's faster: 64-bit inskape on linux on a dual-core P8600, or 32-bit inkscape on win7 on a quad-core Q6600
29:00 <Brunius> Imma go with inkscape rather than inskape
29:18 <Mekkis> sorry, inkscape*
29:26 <Brunius> And Linux
30:19 <Ballig> why can't you do a 64-bit on win7 with the quad-core in the conservatory with the lead pipe
30:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> why not just use 64bit inkscape on 64bit win7?
30:57 <Mekkis> because there isn't a 64bit release?
31:07 <Ballig> make one
31:30 <Mekkis> (in case you were wondering, the windows version crashed. The linux version finished in about 30 seconds)
31:54 <Ballig> sounds like the developers of that program have considered the windows port as an afterthought
32:06 <Brunius> As they should.
32:12 <Mekkis> would you really blame them?
32:41 <Mekkis> compiling stuff for win64 is a big pain
33:04 <Mekkis> Ballig, would you release a win64 version of CA?
33:39 <Ballig> don't see a reason to
36:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but is there a need to do a 64-bit CA in general?
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52:38 <Brunius> Someone tell me when you guys play another bout of eye
53:14 <Spaceshot_tm2_> NEVA :P
54:17 <Ballig> we beat it in such a perfect way that we made a pact to never play it again
54:34 <Brunius> Ah, I see
54:51 <Brunius> Well, it's not my cash that's been wasted buying a game I'm never gonna play
55:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heh
55:17 <Thelen> heh
02:48 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, well, a 64-bit version would have better performance
03:14 <Ballig> have you had performance problems with CA
03:28 <Mekkis> only with some of the changes I've made
03:33 <Mekkis> (but haven't sent to you)
03:46 <Ballig> that may suggest that the changes are a bit above the scope of the program
04:07 <Mekkis> more to do with what I did to the changes
04:13 <Mekkis> adding SVG support is one thing
04:29 <Mekkis> then using it to load a 400MB SVG file is another
04:54 <Ballig> I really hope that's not going to be standard practice :p
05:03 <Brunius> That's just Mekkis being Mekkis
05:45 <Mekkis> (the task I tried to get Inkscape to do was print a 24MB SVG
16:30 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, the need to release a 64-bit version of CA is the same need to release a 32-bit version rather than a 16-bit version
16:47 <Mekkis> eventually, a version of windows will come out that cannot run 32-bit binaries
17:05 <Mekkis> (just like windows 7 / vista can't run 16-bit binaries)
17:15 <Brunius> While XP can?
17:19 <Mekkis> yep
17:53 <Brunius> Huh.
17:56 <Brunius> Did not know that
17:58 <Mekkis> it's actually rather annoying: although most programs are 32-bit, several program's installers are 16-bit
18:04 <Mekkis> (autocad 2000 for instance)
18:17 <Mekkis> so you can't install it on 7
18:25 <Brunius> Nice
18:30 <Ballig> get autocad 2011
18:45 <Mekkis> how much is that?
18:53 <Ballig> free
18:55 <Brunius> Free if you're a student :P
19:06 <Mekkis> I'm not
19:39 <Brunius> Night yo
19:56 <Brunius> Dad seems to think I should have a decent night's sleep for once...
20:59 <Ballig> on christmas eve?
21:03 <Ballig> tell him you want to wait up for santa claus
21:07 <Brunius> Apparently.
24:42 <Ballig> sup
25:46 <Mekkis> Any more fields that should be on http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=1
25:46 <Mekkis> ?
57:09 <Avatar> finally cleaned out a monster zoo
58:05 <Ballig> while ignoring our potential new player !
59:33 <Avatar> sorry
59:39 <Avatar> Nanashi-Chan: roll up a character !!
59:59 <Ballig> he's finnish, so he might enjoy that one scenario with the sauna!
01:01 <Avatar> do finnish people like sauna
01:02 <Avatar> s
01:45 <Mekkis> do you think that a mystic theurge has a chance of working in PFS?
02:51 <Ballig> saunas are a finnish invention
03:06 <Ballig> most households have a sauna there
07:06 <Brunius> Woah, woah, woah
07:10 <Brunius> Monster zoo?
07:26 <Brunius> I have a feeling we're not talking about Pokemon here, so what's going on?
07:45 <Avatar> like nethack's monster zoos
07:54 <Brunius> Nethack has monster zoos?
08:02 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Andoran_swordbomber_T-Shirt.jpg
08:16 <Mekkis> colours are a bit off, kerning needs work, border needs to be thicker
08:17 <Ballig> they're just rooms full of monsters
08:25 <Ballig> large rooms packed with monsters
08:38 <Ballig> are you printing your own faction t-shirts
08:39 <Mekkis> and shirt needs to be greyer, but that's not happening
08:49 <Mekkis> the one on the left is real
08:58 <Ballig> how do we know that
09:03 <Brunius> That's what they were in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon
09:24 <Ballig> then pokemon stole the idea from nethack
09:29 <Brunius> Probably !
09:55 <Brunius> You walk in, then a bunch of Pokemon dropped down from the ceiling and you got the message "It's a monster zoo!" and you'd go "Fuuu-"
10:16 <Mekkis> when have I lied to you?
10:36 <Ballig> yeah
10:44 <Ballig> well in nethack they don't appear out of nowhere, you know it's there
10:52 <Ballig> and while on that floor you often hear zoo-like sounds
11:08 <Ballig> is that a valid argument
12:12 <Mekkis> depends
12:36 <Mekkis> on exactly what we're arguing
12:58 <Nanashi-Chan> Hmm sorry just not noticed that the window had went blinky, what was this about rolling a character? :) And yes hello.
14:14 <Ballig> ha, Avatar likes to push people into making characters
14:19 <Ballig> although the easiest way to play is to play Pathfinder
14:21 <Ballig> have you ever played that?
15:20 <Nanashi-Chan> Its d&d variant me thinks. Dont worry a about the rules i learn new ones fast.
15:33 <Ballig> yeah it's a set of rules based heavily off of D&D 3.5
15:43 <Ballig> it's really easy to learn, especially if you're already familiar with D&D 3.5
16:51 <Ballig> don't want to overload you with information right away though, it can chase some people off
17:15 <Nanashi-Chan> Yep should not be a problem, know way too much of d&d rules than is good for me.
17:22 <Ballig> has
17:24 <Ballig> er, ha
18:00 <Nanashi-Chan> Well about this game what setting? And what kind of party?
18:26 <Ballig> most of the games we're playing at the moment are "pathfinder society" games
18:34 <Ballig> basically it's the convention/competition play format for pathfinder
18:42 <Ballig> (similar to, I think, RPGA that wizards have for D&D?)
19:03 <Horace^Myrthit> Isnt it Living Greyhawk?
19:04 <Ballig> basically you have a character which is created according to a uniform set of rules, and you can play it in any pathfinder society scenario no matter who is GMing it
19:17 <Ballig> living greyhawk may be the RPGA setting that wizards use
19:27 <Nanashi-Chan> Ah ok
19:35 <Ballig> pathfinder has its own setting, I'm not sure what it's called
19:45 <Horace^Myrthit> Golarion?
19:45 <Ballig> Mekkis would know
19:49 <Brunius> Yeah
19:51 <Brunius> Golarion
19:52 <Ballig> that sounds like the name of the world
20:01 <Horace^Myrthit> itis
20:06 <Nanashi-Chan> So basically you have this channel set as one of those group of friends with rolling DM way of doing it?
20:56 <Ballig> well, pathfinder society itself is a rolling GM model
21:07 <Ballig> basically anyone can GM a pathfinder society scenario
21:17 <Horace^Myrthit> Hai. Watashi no kuruma wa aoi desu. Kore wa aoi wo miamasu ka?
21:20 <Ballig> means the party can be made up of any legal pathfinder society characters
21:46 <Ballig> it's what we're doing most at the moment, in the past it was mostly D&D 3.5 campaigns
21:52 <Ballig> we've also played star wars and shadowrun in the past
23:10 <Nanashi-Chan> horace this name is one of my past characters :P dont read to deep into it.
23:17 <Ballig> haha
23:23 <Ballig> is Nanashi from an anime
23:27 <Nanashi-Chan> 3rd ed or 4rth?
23:30 <Ballig> I used to know a girl who had a character in WoW called Nanashi
23:41 <Ballig> we played one campaign of 4th edition
23:45 <Ballig> it wasn't very popular here
23:58 <Nanashi-Chan> Well Nanashi was some odd combination that meant something cool but cant remember what it is atm moment
24:17 <Horace^Myrthit> Nanashi: I only speak Japanese related to cars and driving.
24:37 <Horace^Myrthit> I have a "Drive Time Japanese" CD set that talks about cars, the highway, etc.
25:21 <Nanashi-Chan> Ah yes 7 and 4 if i recal it had some nice hidden numerological meanings
25:39 <Horace^Myrthit> lol
25:52 <Nanashi-Chan> 4 is unlucky number if i recal right
25:58 <Horace^Myrthit> so desu
26:03 <Horace^Myrthit> as well as 9
26:05 <Nanashi-Chan> Almost like death
26:10 <Nanashi-Chan> And 7 is perfect
26:26 <Nanashi-Chan> :P in my defence i was  very young when i made the name
27:04 <Ballig> ha
27:08 <Ballig> also in his defence he's finnish
28:08 <Horace^Myrthit> 7 has another pronounciation beyond Nana, and its "shti" which may be pinyin as hitoshi, not sure
28:40 <Nanashi-Chan> Hmm need to fetch that book somewhere but seems like rpgbookz in enerla have went soft and does not deliver anymore.
29:02 <Ballig> there is an SRD version of pathfinder
29:11 <Ballig> I used to get my pirated books from irc.scifi-fans.net #rpg-books
29:14 <Brunius> midori
29:27 <Horace^Myrthit> Midori = green
29:31 <Brunius> Ushi
29:33 <Ballig> midori sure is green
29:37 <Ballig> and tastes delicious
29:47 <Brunius> They make it in other colours now Ballig
29:53 <Ballig> is it other flavours
29:53 <Horace^Myrthit> d20pfsrd.com
31:10 <Nanashi-Chan> Hrmm need to put the books on download and go make some food be back later
32:04 <Horace^Myrthit> I also love how folks from Australia are Asian, or at least thrown in with the Asian world conferences, yes?
32:41 <Ballig> ha
32:47 <Horace^Myrthit> Ausies shouldnt count as Adian, Australia is a continent
32:51 <Spaceshot_tm2_> nice, jeff dunam on foxtel
32:54 <Ballig> yeah
33:06 <Brunius> Ha
33:08 <Ballig> it tends to be easier because of our low population to count us as "Australasia" or part of the "Asia Pacific"
33:12 <Brunius> Tell that to the Americans
33:19 <Horace^Myrthit> Well, I am the Americans
33:24 <Horace^Myrthit> We know its a continent
33:28 <Ballig> also tell it to asia, though
33:33 <Avatar> bloody americanos
33:34 <Brunius> You know, maybe
33:39 <Brunius> I'm told all the time it's an island
33:50 <Ballig> Australia is an island
33:51 <Ballig> and a country
33:52 <Avatar> america is an island
33:53 <Ballig> and a continent
33:53 <Horace^Myrthit> We also know its covered in desert, filled with roos, and there is a proclivity for drag queens to make pilgrimages across it in buses.
34:02 <Ballig> America is too large to be considered an island
34:13 <Avatar> how large is too large
34:18 <Brunius> I had to take my emu to school the other day
34:19 <Ballig> Australia is the largest island
34:24 <Brunius> My kangaroo got sick
34:29 <Horace^Myrthit> lol
34:31 <Horace^Myrthit> poor Roo
34:41 <Horace^Myrthit> is he puking up his dinner? i.e. koala bits?
34:44 <Ballig> Australia is at that size that it's large enough to be a continent and small enough to be an island
34:56 <Brunius> dude, roos don't eat koalas
35:01 <Brunius> they eat drop bears
35:02 <Horace^Myrthit> huh?
35:06 <Horace^Myrthit> oh
35:40 <Horace^Myrthit> And the only natural predator of the emu is the dingo, as they are the top of the food chain? 
36:18 <Horace^Myrthit> Seriously, though.
36:30 <Horace^Myrthit> Australia has an extremely high concentration of deadly animals.
36:51 <Horace^Myrthit> 90% of deadly snakes, I think.
36:53 <Ballig> the gods were stoned when they made Australia
37:07 <Horace^Myrthit> When I'm stoned, I don't make boomslangs...
37:16 <Ballig> what's a boomslang
37:27 <Horace^Myrthit> hmmm, suspect Ballig, very suspenct
37:41 <Ballig> is it something you made up
37:42 <Horace^Myrthit> Boomslangs are one of the top 10 deadliest snakes in the world. Only found in Australia. 
37:43 <Ballig> possibly while stoned
38:03 <Horace^Myrthit> They can get to like 9 feet long, like to climb trees, and they are the prettiest shade of green.
38:52 <Horace^Myrthit> Maybe not 9 feet, actually, maybe only 6. It's been a long time since I watched that Animal Planet special.
39:07 <Ballig> oh, talk about suspect
39:11 <Ballig> we don't measure in feet here, sir!
39:47 <Horace^Myrthit> Well, the standard system has been proven superior to metric.
40:00 <Avatar> lol?
40:20 <Horace^Myrthit> What do you mean, Avatar?
40:23 <Ballig> ha
40:26 <Avatar> is that a joke
40:26 <Ballig> that's not an argument you can win
40:37 <Horace^Myrthit> Sure, there's 1000 meters in a kilometer, but there's 3000 some feet in a mile.
40:43 <Ballig> so the only possibly reasoning is a troll :p
40:47 <Horace^Myrthit> That's just plain math.
40:48 <Avatar> ok, joke
40:52 <Ballig> yeah
40:58 <Brunius> Horace^Myrthit, imperial makes no sense at all
41:02 <Brunius> Metric does
41:07 <Ballig> he knows
41:09 <Ballig> all americans know that
41:55 <Horace^Myrthit> Also, there are a lot of "Americans" that use metric.
42:03 <Horace^Myrthit> They just live in South America and Canada.
43:07 <Ballig> ha
43:16 <Ballig> yeah when we say america we're referring to the united states of
43:19 <Ballig> and not the continents
43:44 <Horace^Myrthit> Certainly, that's what lots of people are referring to
43:48 <Horace^Myrthit> and yes, I am American
43:48 <Ballig> in the same way that when we say yankee we're talking about anyone from the US, not just someone from the northern states
43:55 <Horace^Myrthit> more specifically I am from the United States
44:15 <Ballig> :)
44:23 <Horace^Myrthit> No one cares about the yankee thing anymore
44:30 <Horace^Myrthit> in the UK they say "Septics"
45:00 <Ballig> I have heard some americans get upset at yankee not technically referring to them in their definition
45:03 <Horace^Myrthit> as a cockney rhyming slang. septic like septic tank, tank rhymes with yank
45:09 <Ballig> ha
45:12 <Ballig> love cockney rhyming slang
45:21 <Horace^Myrthit> Yankee is a term that was used 100+ years ago.
45:52 <Horace^Myrthit> I'd say anyone born after the 70s doesnt care. Yankee just reminds me of yankee doodle, a very fun song about how awesome the USA is.
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46:06 <Ballig> ha
46:18 <Horace^Myrthit> "Yankee doodle went to town, riding on a pony" - that part is to signify how we invented horseback riding.
46:41 <Horace^Myrthit> "Stuck a feather in his hat and called it macaroni" - and that part is about how we invented fashion and the Italian language
47:23 <Horace^Myrthit> Then it just repeats with more cajoling language. 
48:20 <Ballig> I invented your face
48:21 <Horace^Myrthit> So, just to confirm. PFS today in 11 hours?
48:30 <Ballig> that's the idea
48:51 <Ballig> did you make a character
48:56 <Brunius> Oh hay
48:58 <Brunius> It is!
49:01 <Horace^Myrthit> Thank you for the face, btw. You're a fucking genius! I get compliments all the time.
49:13 <Brunius> Avatar: Level bracket?
49:20 <Horace^Myrthit> 1
49:30 <Avatar> what
49:36 <Ballig> 1-2. likely
49:51 <Avatar> are you playing tomorrow
49:52 <Brunius> What characters has everyone else got?
49:57 <Brunius> I should be able to
50:20 <Avatar> depends who's here and what characters people want to use
50:25 <Horace^Myrthit> <--  playing a Wizard
50:32 <Ballig> I have a level 1 cleric and a level 2 wizard and a level 4(I think) cavalier
50:38 <Horace^Myrthit> or maybe a druid
50:49 <Brunius> I've got a level 2 Cleric, Level 1 Sorceror and Level 1 Fighter
51:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> I have a level 1 archer monk
51:17 <Brunius> I thought you hated PFS?
51:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> doesn't mean I haven't rolled a character
52:02 <Ballig> spaceshot hates everything
52:05 <Horace^Myrthit> Archer Monk, though?
52:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> zen archer
52:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> flurry of arrows
52:29 <Horace^Myrthit> Zen Archer < Sniper Rogue < Ranger, imo
52:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> and bowadin > ranger
52:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> so?
53:06 <Horace^Myrthit> just throwing it out there
53:59 <Horace^Myrthit> Never heard of bowadin, though
54:08 <Horace^Myrthit> I'll have to look that one up
54:16 <Brunius> He probably made it up
54:22 <Horace^Myrthit> oh, lol
54:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> bowadin is the best archer
54:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> though it only works against evil enemies
55:31 <Ballig> it's a paladin who uses ranged attacks
55:51 <Horace^Myrthit> smite at distance
56:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> yep
56:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> smite and rapid shot or many shot
56:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> with that ranged power attack (forgot name)
58:20 <Horace^Myrthit> ranged power attack?
58:26 <Horace^Myrthit> seems like cheating to me
58:58 <Horace^Myrthit> do you trade to hit for AC?
59:09 <Ballig> I don't think smite makes taking the class that worth it
59:39 <Horace^Myrthit> I dont think so either. I'm not a fan of the paladin class
59:48 <Horace^Myrthit> its missing something, I think
00:24 <Horace^Myrthit> The pally in my sunday campaign hits less often, for less damage, and is hit more often than the fighter/cavalier
00:52 <Horace^Myrthit> then again, hes lvl 3 and 1 of those is a sorcerer lvl for a prestige class at 6
01:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> 3.5 or pathfinder?
01:14 <Horace^Myrthit> PF
01:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> why sorc level then?
01:29 <Horace^Myrthit> Ive never played 3.5
01:35 <Horace^Myrthit> I think my DnD books are 2
01:58 <Horace^Myrthit> I'm not sure. I think he may have needed arcane spell casting, or draconic bloodline
02:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm
02:08 <Brunius> I've got the 2nd ed books somewhere
02:13 <Horace^Myrthit> its a dragon knight I think I remember?
03:27 <Horace^Myrthit> I was also thinking about a Heavens Oracle
03:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> well, is he building straight damage though?
04:07 <Horace^Myrthit> no, but neither is the cavalier
04:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea but cav is straight cav though right?
04:30 <Horace^Myrthit> fighter/cav
04:38 <Ballig> my character is a fighter/cav
04:42 <Horace^Myrthit> which makes a difference
04:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea that's still straighter than pally2/sorc1
04:54 <Horace^Myrthit> exactly
05:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> but pally3 vs evil enemies you'll smash them
05:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> and should be in plate
05:39 <Ballig> smite is limited use
05:42 <Ballig> and isn't THAT great
05:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure is
05:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> but it is good in conjunction with power attack or ranged power attack
05:59 <Ballig> compare it to my cavalier's charge
06:13 <Ballig> where he does 3d6+30 damage
06:19 <Ballig> and that's with a +2 strength
06:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you can't do that in a dungeon can you
07:03 <Ballig> sure I can
07:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> or on a boat
07:06 <Ballig> yep
07:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't you have to be mounted
07:14 <Ballig> it's harder in a tight space, but I only need 10 feet
07:17 <Ballig> yeah, I'm a small character
07:20 <Ballig> on a mount I'm medium
07:27 <Horace^Myrthit> lol
07:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> small characters are just bullshit cheating
07:31 <Horace^Myrthit> fucking gnomes
07:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> and practically everyone who plays small races knows that
07:52 <Ballig> it was a randomly chosen pregen
08:00 <Horace^Myrthit> I dont think its cheating
08:06 <Ballig> well, randomly as in "I think I'll do cavalier, let's choose one at random"
08:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> still
08:14 <Horace^Myrthit> first off, if you make a gnome character, you have to play a gnome character
08:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> small races get a fuckton more benefits than they do disadvantages
08:45 <Horace^Myrthit> then there's the penalty to damage and strength, and limitation on gear
08:59 <Horace^Myrthit> Meh, you still have to taint your sell by playing a S character
09:04 <Ballig> they have some heavy disadvantages
09:06 <Ballig> but you can get around them
09:16 <Ballig> he was really crap early levels
09:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> small characters only issue is a dice down on weapons
09:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> and can't grapple easily (oh noes)
09:47 <Horace^Myrthit> and -str
09:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> but the major benefits being mounting being fucking heaps easy
09:54 <Ballig> they have smaller carrying capacity
10:33 <Horace^Myrthit> and melee damage from a str mod
10:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> still
10:48 <Ballig> you can't just say "still" when someone gives you legitimate reasoning
10:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> if the race book is allowed for pfs
10:53 <Ballig> although, look who I'm talking to
11:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> everyone will be remade, small and +2dex +2 int and -2cha
11:10 <Horace^Myrthit> and, again, you'll have to go through the game as a gnome. the prejudices, the folksy racism
11:34 <Horace^Myrthit> the DM should punish anyone who is a gnome or a halfling
11:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can't in pfs
12:01 <Horace^Myrthit> oh, but can't you?
12:10 <Ballig> you can
12:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> you could fudge dice against them
12:27 <Ballig> that's not what he's talking about
12:27 <Horace^Myrthit> that's the easy way out
12:59 <Nanashi-Chan> Well that is why you make gnomes as mages, and maybe illusionists... how many people want to piss of a mage? Normal people that is.
13:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't think you can do much else without someone calling truance
13:18 <Avatar> dredmor is getting too damn easy now, I just killed something by accident that I didn't see just by walking past it
13:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you are playing on easymode
13:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> what do you expect?
13:59 <Avatar> I guess
14:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> and have permadeath off
14:31 <Nanashi-Chan> Spaceshot_tm2 GM might be all knowing entity but a knife in the back of some villager that mocked you a bit too much cant be proven if made in the right way :P
14:43 <Nanashi-Chan> By the guards
15:01 <Horace^Myrthit> its not even necessary that its that blatant
15:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> firstly...who? secondly, wha?
15:40 <Nanashi-Chan> Spaceshot_tm2 about gnomes not being able to push back by truancy call?
16:03 <Horace^Myrthit> a GM with cunning and subtlety can make a single player hate themselves just by using the attitudes and personalities of the environment. Other characters catch on, and it goes from there.
16:21 <Horace^Myrthit> Sociopathy is far greater than bending the rules because you can.
16:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> pfs isn't meant to be the GM vs the players
16:29 <Horace^Myrthit> It isn't.
16:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's pretty much frowned upon if that shit happens
16:39 <Horace^Myrthit> I'm just saying, gnomes and halflings are filthly little monsters
16:46 <Horace^Myrthit> and every other race feels that way
17:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> every race thinks that every other race isn't worth being around
17:38 <Horace^Myrthit> which is why I elect that GMs punish gnomes and halflings with folksy racism and prejudice 
17:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> doesn't mean that is what should be roleplayed out by the GMs npcs
18:29 <Horace^Myrthit> I think this conversation was incidentally escalated to some sort of light confrontation. We're on the same side, Spaceghost. We're arguing the same point. \
19:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> not really
19:30 <Horace^Myrthit> and frankly, you're harshing my 7:20AM buzz.
19:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I hate people playing gnomes (and even halflings), but I don't believe there is something a GM can do without being called a dick for PFS
19:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> hahaha
19:53 <Nanashi-Chan> hmm btw about pathfinder where can i find the list of allowed books for that?
20:01 <Horace^Myrthit> lol
20:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> google
20:11 <Horace^Myrthit> no
20:13 <Ballig> Nanashi-Chan: you need the society book
20:14 <Horace^Myrthit> give him the link
20:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't have the exact link on me
20:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> someone else might
20:24 <Horace^Myrthit> http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm#
20:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig/mekkis/avatar/brunius probably would
20:44 <Horace^Myrthit> Theres a link at the bottom to the PFS resources page
20:51 <Ballig> http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4
20:51 <Ballig> I think
21:05 <Horace^Myrthit> It includes Core Rulebook, Advanced P
21:07 <Ballig> get that book, it tells you the rules you need to follow for society
21:11 <Horace^Myrthit> sorry, cat typing
21:13 <Ballig> allowed books, what makes a legal character, etc
21:49 <Horace^Myrthit> CRB, APG, UM, UC, and campaign settings, other guides. Some stuff is not included, so you do need to check your source on traits and feats especially.
22:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> can't play any archetype that gives guns to non gunslingers
22:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> can't craft magical items or scribe scrolls
22:51 <Nanashi-Chan> Hmm wizards cant scribe scrolls?
23:04 <Horace^Myrthit> I also suggest http://www.venturecaptain.com/Character.aspx for use as a calculator for skill points, HP, and attributes
23:08 <Horace^Myrthit> No, Nanashi, they cannot.
23:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope, they get spell focus I think
23:17 <Horace^Myrthit> They get a free Spell Focus feat instead
23:38 <Nanashi-Chan> Ok makes sense if its meant to be able to transfer characters
24:00 <Ballig> yeah PFS has some extra rules for the unique style of play
24:11 <Horace^Myrthit> HP and Skill points are easy to figure out. The attribute point buy system is set with 20 points.
24:43 <Ballig> 150 gold to start
24:58 <Nanashi-Chan> And all chars start ot lvl1 i would assume?
25:02 <Brunius> Yep
25:08 <Ballig> yeah
25:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> with 2 traits I believe
25:39 <Horace^Myrthit> yes
26:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> a few traits aren't allowed, and 1 is a bit different I think
26:05 <Horace^Myrthit> I wish Avatar wasn't idel
26:20 <Horace^Myrthit> unless someone else can give him a username to upload the sheet to the site
26:29 <Nanashi-Chan> Also i need to register this character to the site itself?
26:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig
26:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> since it's his site
26:34 <Nanashi-Chan> Pathfinder that is
26:40 <Horace^Myrthit> Oh, duh
26:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> not yet nanashi
26:50 <Horace^Myrthit> Yes, but just the name and char lvl
26:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> you aren't required to till you get xp
26:58 <Ballig> yeah you need to register for pathfinder society, but you don't have to right away
27:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you can do it now if you wish
28:20 <Horace^Myrthit> if you upload your character sheet to the channel site, we can look at it as you create it, b/c you can link it in chat
28:26 <Nanashi-Chan> Heh ill see about it later, started looking for new d&d game when i read some online comic that made me want to play artificer but need to see how pathfinder would work instead the eberron
28:50 <Avatar> what?
28:54 <Ballig> ha
29:01 <Ballig> why would you want to be an artificer
29:13 <Avatar> forget artificer
29:16 <Avatar> wouldn't you rather be a cleric ?
29:23 <Horace^Myrthit> lol
29:24 <Nanashi-Chan> http://www.girlgeniusonline.com/comic.php?date=20021104
29:30 <Horace^Myrthit> GG
29:37 <Horace^Myrthit> I read that too
29:46 <Horace^Myrthit> its picking up after a long drag 
29:53 <Nanashi-Chan> Artificers rock
30:10 <Nanashi-Chan> yeah just read it month back the first time
30:19 <Horace^Myrthit> I like the jaggermonsters the best
30:53 <Horace^Myrthit> I identify with them. When I drink Jaggermeister, I become a jaggermonster.
31:04 <Nanashi-Chan> They are fun, but mad science with no care for the safety protocol or its long term impact is what makes me love it :)
31:10 <Horace^Myrthit> congneial, smiley, indestructible
31:10 <Nanashi-Chan> And the high-drama
31:50 <Horace^Myrthit> that entire arc when agatha first gets in the castle just drug on and on and on and on
32:15 <Horace^Myrthit> by the time the false heir appeared I was already not reading it every week. 
32:38 <Nanashi-Chan> Well she is in epic level castle in low level character trying to take over...
33:25 <Nanashi-Chan> Well might be just my hype for its newness.
33:29 <Horace^Myrthit> that would imply a much richer and more action packed invention then what was delivered
33:35 <Nanashi-Chan> Rarely find comics that are like that.
34:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> read goblins
34:38 <Horace^Myrthit> Well, if I hadnt ever read them and just came to them, then I'd say that the last 18 months would have gone by much faster.
35:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> I have never seen a combat go for so long
35:08 <Horace^Myrthit> the last 18 months worth of chapters
35:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> till goblins
35:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> one fight took 1 year or more irl time
35:26 <Horace^Myrthit> redic
35:35 <Horace^Myrthit> thats what destroyed Bleach
35:41 <Horace^Myrthit> that and the fan polling, imo
36:12 <Nanashi-Chan> Well any and all long-term stuff will eventually dwindle.
36:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> the goblins fight was epic though
36:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> and is quite funny
36:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'll find a link
37:19 <Horace^Myrthit> long-term stuff should be balanced with in the now stuff, which is why I like One Piece
37:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> http://www.goblinscomic.com/
37:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> there
38:08 <Horace^Myrthit> but everything drags just a little, and it really is easier/better when you are reading large chunks at a time, and don't have to wait two days or a week for a new page
38:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> yep
38:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> I read about 20odd webcomics
38:51 <Horace^Myrthit> Another piece to the puzzle that is Spaceshot
39:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
49:26 <Horace^Myrthit> Nanashi, http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/v5748btpy84k4 that's a free resource on paizo. Chapter 2 will help you make your character.
50:02 <Horace^Myrthit> and you really only have to review chapter 2
52:14 <Brunius> Night yo
52:27 <Brunius> Mum says I have to go to bed before midnight today...
52:31 <Brunius> Which sucks
52:35 <Brunius> What time is the game tomorrow?
52:58 <Brunius> Hang on, tomorrow is Saturday, isn't it
52:59 <Brunius> Derp
53:03 <Nanashi-Chan> Will look it over
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