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20:47 <Avatar> almost done here mekkis
28:44 <Avatar> wow, you can still lose hp when you are stable if you rolled yourself stable
29:06 <Avatar> that's a very well thought out rule
33:01 <Avatar> all done
34:04 <Avatar> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/738618/conditions.txt
34:20 <Avatar> I've left most of the modifiers blank
35:10 <Avatar> I can work on something similar to that if we find something that would be useful
35:33 <Avatar> as long as it's mostly a copy-paste job rather than a read and interpret job
35:39 <Avatar> that takes quite a bit more time
53:27 <Avatar> tip: to remove double/triple spacing when copy/pasting text from a PDF into IRC, click the Text Viewer toolbutton in foxit before copy/pasting
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10:23 <Avatar> well well well, if it isn't mort
24:33 <Mort> yeah its mort
24:38 <Mort> IT old u ownce I set here
24:39 <Mort> I can sit around
25:49 <Avatar> what
26:32 <Mort> sit aorund here :D
26:36 <Mort> ever night
26:39 <Mort> Im fking dedicated to utopia
26:42 <Mort> so I sit on ric
26:43 <Mort> irc
27:04 <Avatar> you've lost me
27:11 <Avatar> all I undestood was I sit around on IRC
27:14 <Avatar> which I can appreciate
28:05 <Mort> yeah
28:05 <Mort> :D
28:08 <Mort> I sit aorund on irc
28:14 <Mort> and wag my lil tail sily
28:17 <Mort> what time is it ur place now
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17:18 <Amqui> good day
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05:41 <Avatar> Mekkis: did you say that I was done with the conditions
06:08 <Avatar> see*
22:16 <Mekkis> looks nice
22:44 <Mekkis> I'll insert it into pfdb and write an interface for it
53:34 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat 10am (Mekkis) | CoTE: Sun 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
53:34 Topic for #d&d set by Ballig at Thu Dec 15 00:36:20 2011
53:35 <***> Buffer Playback...
53:35 <***> Playback Complete.
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07:44 <Mekkis> Avatar, I've been mucking around with http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/
08:17 <Mekkis> I've been writing an interface to the backend to extract text-character sheets
09:41 <Thelen> nice!
10:07 <Mekkis> Thelen, any news regarding the IPv6?
10:28 <Thelen> hmm haven't been any new replies, lemme bug them :/
10:39 <Mekkis> I've got the frontend and middleware set up, with a horrible ssh kludge to a server in nl
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14:20 <Mekkis> I'll need to modify some things in the templates
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18:35 <Avatar-> not sure what that means
20:22 <Mekkis> when you create a character sheet, you choose a template: 3EProfiler Standard, d20 3.5e DnD, or Serenity
20:39 <Mekkis> I want to put a Pathfinder template in there, with stuff like CMB/CMD on there
22:24 <Avatar-> in where? diebot?
24:44 <Thelen> sometime soon you'll have to help me fix my char >_>
24:53 <Mekkis> in http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/
25:53 <Mekkis> (if someone has free time and knows PHP and wants to volunteer, I'd be grateful :S
25:54 <Mekkis> )
26:02 <Mekkis> !recentsheets
26:04 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-18 05:02 328 Tasiv
26:04 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-18 02:03 280 Mellon
26:04 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-14 15:12 330 Toro
26:04 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-12 11:49 329 Artimus
26:04 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-11 08:37 327 Hitomi
26:12 <Mekkis> !history Hitomi
26:38 <Thelen> i know php >_>
27:51 <Mekkis> php isn't on the list of languages I've used :S
33:01 <Mekkis> Thelen, for starters, your size is medium
33:26 <Mekkis> 10, 5, 5, 0, 2, -2 : stats are good
33:48 <Mekkis> saves are good
33:53 <Mekkis> CMD/CMB is good
34:19 <Thelen> what is 10, 5 5 0 2 -2?
34:20 <Mekkis> melee attack roll is +5, not +6
34:24 <Mekkis> points
34:36 <Mekkis> ranged is good
35:25 <Mekkis> considered upgrading your equipment?
35:31 <Thelen> yea
35:33 <Mekkis> (have I given you your chronicle sheet?)
35:34 <Thelen> points for what?
35:37 <Thelen> no
35:40 <Mekkis> ok
35:44 <Mekkis> point buy of your stats
35:58 <Thelen> oooh i see yep
36:01 <Thelen> i think skills need fixing
36:25 <Mekkis> stupid bus and its lack of suspension
36:39 <Mekkis> Thelen, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/Thelen_firstSteps3.pdf
37:10 <Mekkis> I won't talkk about ACs and armour, because you'll want to upgrade them
37:24 <Thelen> yea
37:38 <Mekkis> skills: you have 3 skill points
37:51 <Mekkis> last I checked, perception wasn't a class skill for fighters
38:02 <Thelen> well its pregen
38:11 <Mekkis> okay
38:42 <Mekkis> hmm
38:57 <Mekkis> you're using the bastard sword in one hand?
39:06 <Mekkis> shield in the other hand?
39:14 <Thelen> i guess? :/
39:25 <Mekkis> fun
39:46 <Avatar> cool
39:57 <Thelen> why is AC so lowish even with sword and armour?
40:06 <Mekkis> 19 isn't that low
40:14 <Thelen> oh
40:24 <Mekkis> at first level
40:46 <Thelen> ah
40:46 <Avatar-> mekkis does that sheet generator work yet
40:50 <Brunius> Who needs a sheet generator?
40:52 <Mekkis> sort of
40:59 <Avatar-> or profiler
41:10 <Mekkis> why?
41:11 <Avatar-> not generator
41:20 <Avatar-> I want to try it
41:28 <Mekkis> go ahead
41:46 <Mekkis> just back up your sheet regularly: I can't guarantee it not losing data
42:09 <Avatar-> so it does or doesn't work?
42:12 <Mekkis> Thelen, you need a sheet like http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=182 :)
42:13 <Mekkis> it works
42:19 <Avatar-> ok
42:31 <Mekkis> but I don't trust it to not lose my data, so back your data up
47:16 <Thelen> good heavens
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15:36 <Brunius> Man, Frost Legion is a pain
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18:06 <Avatar-> thelen you want to make sure stuff on your sheet lines up, unlike most of mekkis' sheets
18:17 <Thelen> ok
19:38 <Thelen> just sorting out skills
22:00 <Mekkis> my stuff does line up
22:14 <Thelen> mostly :P
22:48 <Mekkis> it uses LaTeX's tabbing environment
24:10 <Avatar-> that sheet you linked
24:14 <Avatar-> doesn't line up
24:28 <Avatar-> look at it man
24:52 <Mekkis> yes it does
24:55 <Avatar-> it might line up in latex but it needs to line up when you upload it
25:06 <Mekkis> Skills                        Abil Mod  Abil  Ranks  Racial/Misc (details)
25:06 <Mekkis> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
25:06 <Mekkis> Concentration             47     15      Cha   22      10
25:06 <Mekkis> Craft (alchemy)            8      5      Int    3
25:06 <Mekkis> Diplomacy                 24     15      Cha    9
25:06 <Mekkis> Intimidate                28     15      Cha   13
25:06 <Mekkis> Know (Arcane)             23      5      Int   18
25:06 <Mekkis> Know (Nature)              8      5      Int    3
25:12 <Mekkis> how does that not line up?
25:16 <Thelen> so can you help me with me skills?
25:26 <Thelen> i get 2+int i believe
25:29 <Avatar-> is it the tabbing that's doing it
25:32 <Avatar-> pasting it here won't help
25:52 <Avatar-> sounds right thelen
26:17 <Thelen> how do i see what are fighter skills
26:27 <Avatar-> did you choose hp or skill point for favoured class
26:39 <Avatar-> it's in the rulebook under skills
26:42 <Thelen> i don't know
26:43 <Avatar-> a table
27:01 <Thelen> ah found it
27:18 <Mekkis> he put it into HP
27:24 <Avatar-> you get 1 extra hp or skill point each level, your choice
27:33 <Thelen> im lvl 1?
27:36 <Avatar-> I say put it into skill
27:43 <Thelen> how do i tell my HP is correct?
27:56 <Avatar-> yeah you are level 1
28:06 <Thelen> i think i'll keep climb and survival
28:10 <Avatar-> fighter is d10 isn't it
28:14 <Thelen> yea
28:25 <Thelen> mine said 1d10+3
28:28 <Avatar-> check chapter 2 of the pfs guide
29:06 <Avatar-> hp is your fighter hp + con + favoured class if you choose hp
29:22 <Thelen> ah right
29:32 <Thelen> think i need hp more than a 3rd skill
29:37 <Thelen> for now
31:43 <Thelen> so when they have the skill and it has (str: armour check penalty)
31:45 <Thelen> what does that mean
33:04 <Thelen> and what is the class bonus?
33:52 <Thelen> ah +3
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41:20 <Avatar-> man reception in here is garbage
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43:31 <Thelen> heh
45:47 <Avatar-> your armour has a check penalty that affects some skills
45:48 <Avatar-> record all the stats of your armour first
45:53 <Thelen> yup
45:55 <Thelen> still working on skills
45:56 <Thelen> confused
45:57 <Mekkis> choose your armour first
45:59 <Thelen> Skill Ranks per Level: 2 + Int modifier.
46:04 <Mekkis> you get three skill ranks
46:08 <Avatar-> from the equipment / armour chapter, look at the table
46:16 <Mekkis> 2 for fighter, 0 for int, 1 for being a human
46:25 <Thelen> Climb                     	str*  	+0 =  	+2    	+1   	+3(class) -6(AC penalty)
46:30 <Thelen> so that ain't right?
46:40 <Mekkis> nope
46:55 <Avatar-> what's your str
46:58 <Thelen> 2
47:00 <Mekkis> Climbe should have +4 (str) +1 (ranks) +3 (class) -6 (ACP)
47:07 <Mekkis> your str is 18, isn't it?
47:09 <Avatar-> 14 or 15?
47:10 <Thelen> derp
47:12 <Thelen> 18
47:30 <Avatar-> +4 instead of 2 then
47:41 <Thelen> why is ranks only +1
47:46 <Mekkis> Avatar, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/text_lining_up.png
47:54 <Mekkis> how is that not lining up?
47:54 <Thelen> skill ranks per level: 2+int?
48:08 <Avatar-> you can only have as many ranks in a skill as your level
48:18 <Avatar-> that's total skill ranks
48:25 <Thelen> oooh
48:28 <Avatar-> per level
48:30 <Thelen> i get it now
48:37 <Thelen> tohught it was per-skill
49:06 <Mekkis> it lines up for me...
49:10 <Thelen> Climb                     	str*  	+2 =  	+4    	+1   	+2(class)+1(human)-6(AC penalty)
49:15 <Thelen> so that should be right now
49:29 <Mekkis> it's +3 for class
49:40 <Mekkis> in Pathfinder, trained class skills get +3
49:47 <Avatar-> why does that look like it lines up on yours but not on ours
49:57 <Mekkis> give me a screenshot
50:06 <Thelen> oh, you said +2 for fighter :P
50:08 <Avatar-> I'm on my phone
50:15 <Avatar-> remind me later
50:34 <Avatar-> it's to do with the tabs
50:35 <Thelen> do i get +1(human) to survival as well?
50:45 <Avatar-> but yours reads tabbing ok
51:17 <Avatar-> if you're human you get 1 extra rank per level to spend anywhere you want
51:37 <Thelen> oooo i get it now
51:42 <Thelen> mekkis was meaning total skill count
51:46 <Thelen> not modifyer >_>
52:00 <Thelen> so i used that 1 extra on an extra HP?
52:21 <Avatar-> no that's your favoured class bonus
52:25 <Thelen> oh
52:27 <Avatar-> that's different
52:29 <Thelen> so i can have 3 skills
52:29 <Thelen> ok
52:51 <Avatar-> so your skills is 2 for fighter
52:58 <Avatar-> 1 for int
53:00 <Avatar-> 1 for human
53:16 <Avatar-> and 1 for favoured class if you choose skill point
53:45 <Thelen> my int is 0
53:53 <Avatar-> 0 then
53:56 <Thelen> so 2 + 1 + 0 + favoured
54:00 <Mekkis> yeah
54:04 <Avatar-> yeah
54:06 <Thelen> yea ok so 1 more skill
54:07 <Brunius> yeah
54:09 <Mekkis> or three, because HP is better than skills anyday
54:23 <Avatar-> disagree there
54:30 <Avatar-> but you decide
54:40 <Mekkis> ok then Avatar-: how many of your characters have died?
54:44 <Thelen> lol
54:51 <Avatar-> one
54:55 <Mekkis> how many of my characters have died?
55:02 <Avatar-> my first one, in his second scenario
55:10 <Avatar-> you're a power gamer
55:13 <Brunius> I've always put mine into skills, Mekkis
55:36 <Brunius> Out of 5 characters, 1 has died
55:41 <Brunius> 20% isn't bad.
56:00 <Brunius> And that was due to party composition, not lack of HP
56:20 <Brunius> If I'd had one more HP, I still would have died first round
56:29 <Avatar-> it's personal choice, I just think there's more benefit in +12 skill points than +12 hp, especially for higher tier classes that get heaps of hp anyway
56:35 <Mekkis> Brunius, how many of how many of yours have died?
56:48 <Brunius> how many of how many of mine have died?
56:53 <Avatar-> I only make exceptions for first level low hp guys
56:59 <Mekkis> Avatar-, says the person who takes toughness
57:05 <Brunius> Ha
57:12 <Brunius> Who takes Toughness?
57:15 <Mekkis> Avatar-, 
57:25 <Brunius> tsk
57:34 <Brunius> I might go have breakfast now
57:35 <Brunius> Later
57:43 <Avatar-> toughness is sweet
58:04 <Thelen> so is it per level u can decide?
58:11 <Thelen> or u have either skills or HP, forever
58:27 <Avatar-> extra sweet considering putting favoured class into skill points even
58:53 <Avatar-> thelen yes
58:54 <Avatar-> you only decide now about level 1
58:58 <Thelen> hmm
59:05 <Avatar-> level 2 you can do something else
59:33 <Thelen> yea i will already get lots of skill points from being human
00:24 <Avatar-> you can't change your earlier choice though
00:36 <Thelen> yea
01:09 <Avatar-> 1 isn't lots
01:47 <Avatar-> 2 isn't either
01:49 <Avatar-> how many class skills does fighter get
01:52 <Thelen> 2
02:07 <Avatar-> no
02:18 <Avatar-> check the skills table in the rulebook
02:24 <Thelen> i did
02:26 <Thelen> it says 2
03:12 <Brunius> 10, Avatar
04:06 <Brunius> p89, Thelen
04:21 <Thelen> oh those
04:24 <Thelen> thought u meant skill ranks
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07:14 <Brunius> Whatta lagger
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09:47 <Avatar-> christ
13:18 <Brunius> Where are you?
13:20 <Mekkis> I'd rather a feat than 12 skill points
14:07 <Brunius> wtf?
14:16 <Brunius> Is there any option for that?
14:16 <Thelen> what is dmg(s) and dmg(m)  in weapons table?
14:27 <Mekkis> if you're playing a small character
14:31 <Thelen> ah
14:34 <Mekkis> like a halfling
14:36 <Mekkis> or gnome
14:38 <Mekkis> or goblin
14:53 <Avatar-> brunius he means instead of toughness
15:22 <Mekkis> Brunius, it's called not taking toughness and putting your favoured class into HP
15:54 <Avatar-> mekkis you gave the same example with my ninja about str and cha, this is the same with favoured class and toughness
16:28 <Avatar-> a feat is normally worth +3 to a skill? +4?
16:29 <Mekkis> what? if you take it one way, you win the fight; if you take it the other wy, you die?
16:39 <Avatar-> toughness is worth +12
16:59 <Mekkis> it doesn't work that way
17:19 <Mekkis> it's the stacking that matters
17:41 <Avatar-> your reasoning man
17:48 <Mekkis> having +21 to intimidate at level 2 is great.
18:07 <Mekkis> Having +21 to intimidate at level 12: well.. that's not as good
18:19 <Mekkis> the DCs are somewhat adjusted by level/CR
18:40 <Mekkis> so taking a feat that gives you a stackable +3 is better than having nonstackable +12
18:55 <Avatar-> what about +21 to acrobatics at both levels
19:14 <Mekkis> acrobatics to tumble has a DC = opponent's CMD
19:21 <Mekkis> CMD increases with CR/level
19:46 <Avatar-> I'm not really sure where you're getting anything in that analysis
20:11 <Mekkis> so if your opponent's CMD at level 2 is 17, you always make it with a +21
20:21 <Avatar-> perception then
21:09 <Mekkis> at level 12, your opponent's CMD would be... 39
21:15 <Mekkis> your +21 doesn't look as good
21:15 <Avatar-> acrobatics does more than tumble
21:22 <Mekkis> yes
21:34 <Mekkis> but what acrobatics does that actually saves your life is the tumble
21:35 <Mekkis> :S
21:36 <Brunius> Avatar, it's either +12 or +3+3+3+3+3+3+3+3+3 etc.
21:37 <Avatar-> forget tumbling
21:42 <Avatar-> jumping and balance is equivalent
21:51 <Mekkis> at level 12, you can fly
22:00 <Mekkis> ok then
22:48 <Avatar-> brunius: that's more than one feat
22:49 <Avatar-> isn't it
22:49 <Mekkis> at level 12, a Nightwing (CR14) has +24 to stealth
23:24 <Mekkis> a Dark Stalker (CR4) has +8
23:28 <Avatar-> you are limiting every example to the most favourable conditions
23:33 <Mekkis> of course
23:45 <Mekkis> if it's not favourable conditions, it doesn't matter
24:06 <Mekkis> it's not the easy encounters that kill you
24:15 <Mekkis> it's the hard ones
24:26 <Thelen> how do i work out attack roll
24:34 <Thelen> with a weapon
24:56 <Mekkis> melee: BAB + strmod + any weapon modifiers
25:04 <Thelen> BAB?
25:09 <Mekkis> Base attack bonus
25:28 <Mekkis> for a masterwork bastard sword at level 1, it's 1 + 4 + 1 for you
25:34 <Thelen> so 1 + 4 + 1
25:34 <Mekkis> if you've got weapon focus, add +1
25:35 <Thelen> ah
25:39 <Thelen> i do
25:47 <Mekkis> so 1 + 4 + 1 + 1 
25:49 <Mekkis> or 7
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26:24 <Thelen> XD
26:24 <Hitomi> !save melee: 1d20+7 stab; 1d10+4 damage
26:25 <diebot> Hitomi, 1d20+7 stab; 1d10+4 damage saved as @melee
26:27 <Hitomi> @melee
26:28 <diebot> Hitomi, stab: [1d20=13] 20; damage: [1d10=8] 12
26:41 <Mekkis> then add the line for power attack
26:53 <Mekkis> which is the attack bones -1, and +2 damage
27:16 <Hitomi> !save power: 1d20+6 stab; 1d10+6 damage
27:17 <diebot> Hitomi, 1d20+6 stab; 1d10+6 damage saved as @power
27:19 <Hitomi> @power
27:20 <diebot> Hitomi, stab: [1d20=5] 11; damage: [1d10=3] 9
27:47 <Thelen> i think its more damage but yera
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28:46 <Avatar-> :o)
33:37 <Mekkis> Thelen, do the tables on http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=182 line up?
35:00 <Thelen> Benefit: You make attack rolls with the weapon normally.
35:07 <Thelen> that is exotic weapon profic
35:16 <Thelen> does that mean i don't take -1 for power attack?
36:21 <Mekkis> no
36:32 <Mekkis> it means you don't take -4 for nonproficiency
36:42 <Thelen> ok but i do add +1 to base attack bonus it says
36:52 <Mekkis> you always do
37:18 <Mekkis> hell, you add your BAB to picking up a chair and bashing someone with it
37:31 <Thelen> XD
38:57 <Thelen> how many feats does lvl 1 human ftr get?
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44:33 <Thelen> Mekkis yea
44:44 <Thelen> mostly
45:24 <Brunius> Level 1 Human Fighter, 3, I think
45:28 <Thelen> yea i think so
47:19 <Brunius> One from level 1, one from Human and one from Fighter
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48:49 <Thelen> ok updated char sheet
48:53 <Thelen> think its 90% right now
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53:13 <Brunius> lol
53:22 <Brunius> I'm guessing Avatar is going round and round the city loop
54:03 <Thelen> lol
54:19 <Mekkis> I'm running a report that's taking fucking ages
54:21 <Thelen> yea he's probably fallen asleep under a bum
54:47 <Mekkis> something tells me that four full outer joins is not the most efficient way of coding
55:28 <Brunius> Probably not
55:34 <Thelen> XD
56:07 <Mekkis> I think Avatar's "choose a faction based on its traits" is wrong on so many levels
56:27 <Mekkis> it's why all of Avatar's characters are mercenaries
56:28 <Brunius> It is
56:31 <Brunius> Ha
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56:47 <Thelen> shhh he's back
56:50 <Thelen> D
56:52 <Mekkis> "I do the missions my faction assigns me - because that way I get prestige"
57:04 <Brunius> What's up with your dropouts, Avatar?
59:24 <Mekkis> http://torrentfreak.com/images/macrame.jpg
01:58 <Avatar-> I was in a dumb area
02:04 <Thelen> XD
02:17 <Brunius> Ha
02:20 <Mekkis> http://www.getyourcensoron.com/images/chinacomic.jpg
03:00 <Thelen> haha
04:50 <Brunius> ha
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05:46 <Mekkis> !recentsheets
05:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-20 01:48 327 Hitomi
05:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-19 16:06 308 Buck
05:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-19 14:11 280 Mellon
05:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-18 05:02 328 Tasiv
05:47 <diebot> Mekkis, 2011-12-14 15:12 330 Toro
05:52 <Mekkis> !history Hitomi
06:03 <Mekkis> !diff Hitomi r125
06:15 <Mekkis> !diff 327 r125
06:16 <diebot> Mekkis, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/327r125.txt
07:06 <Mekkis> Thelen, you don't get +1 for it being exotic
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12:14 <Brunius> WAS in a dumb area?
12:28 <Brunius> past tense?
13:27 <Thelen> Mekkis yes, the feat
14:07 <Avatar-> yep
14:07 <Avatar-> going back into one
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16:33 <MekkisScreen> !feat exotic weapon proficiency
16:34 <diebot> MekkisScreen, No penalty on attacks made with one exotic weapon
16:44 <MekkisScreen> it doesn't givey you a +1
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29:14 <MekkisScreen> goh no
34:28 <Avatar-> yeah might go in and out of dumb areas now
34:44 <Avatar-> not as bad as the first spot though, that was garbage
46:54 <Mekkis> Thelen, get me a job in Melbourne :)
46:58 <Avatar-> better go back home before my battery gets destroyed
47:04 <Mekkis> Avatar, you too
49:48 <Brunius> I know a place with two spots opening up soon, Mekkis
49:58 <Mekkis> what sort of spots?
50:20 <Brunius> Nevermind
53:56 <Avatar-> yeah man I will get you a job
54:21 <Avatar-> lol@never mind
54:27 <Avatar-> what's that about
56:22 <Brunius> What ISN'T it about
57:21 <Avatar-> it isn't about everything
57:29 <Avatar-> so it's about something
57:34 <Avatar-> what is it
00:27 <Brunius> I should wire up my mobo to the front panel
00:34 <Brunius> I wonder where that soldering iron went
03:17 <Avatar-> where DIDN'T your soldering iron go?
06:04 <Avatar-> tunnel
06:55 <Mekkis> my soldering iron is in my bag
07:00 <Mekkis> I've got a cordless one
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11:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> why does mekkis want to live in melb?
14:07 <Mekkis> why do you?
14:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> educational needs
15:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> well, more of wants
15:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> but the industry see it as a requirement
15:11 <Mekkis> I thought uniSA was pretty good
15:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> hahaha
15:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> it is ok for egineering
15:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> and flinders is good for medical
15:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't care for either area
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16:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> there's a tree
16:45 <`Evergreen`> Hello :)
16:59 <`Evergreen`> I just was guided here by a google search, don't you love it?
17:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> any good bloomage this time of year?
17:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> google is useful
17:34 <`Evergreen`> I don't think evergreens bloom
18:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> aren't cherry blossoms evergreens?
18:18 <Avatar-> ever green
18:23 <Mekkis> don't say it
18:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
18:29 <Avatar-> roll up a character !!
18:40 <Mekkis> `Evergreen`, interested in D&D/Pathfinder on IRC?
18:43 <`Evergreen`> What system? Please say PF
18:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar, put a coin in the jar
18:53 <Mekkis> Pathfinder mainly
18:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> PF with a little S added
18:59 <Avatar-> pf
19:01 <`Evergreen`> Delicious
19:07 <`Evergreen`> Well, I'm totally down.
19:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> at least that's what they play
19:16 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2 tries to invent systems and run them, but it's never got off the ground
19:16 <Avatar-> have you played pfs
19:18 <`Evergreen`> I'm in a game once a week on Sundays, in the flesh
19:24 <Avatar-> lol
19:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> IRL games are awesome
19:35 <`Evergreen`> We're taking a break and play testing a modern times game
19:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't let avatar or ballig try to tell you otherwise
19:39 Mekkis sets mode -R Mekkis
19:56 <Avatar-> evergreen, played pathfinder society?
20:02 <`Evergreen`> No
20:07 <`Evergreen`> I downloaded the guide
20:22 <Avatar-> roll up a pfs char
20:23 <Mekkis> UTC - 5?
20:40 <Avatar-> use a char sheet template from the site
20:40 * #d&d :You must be at least a half-operator to change the topic on this channel
20:42 <`Evergreen`> ?
20:45 <`Evergreen`> EST
21:06 <`Evergreen`> 15 pts?
21:06 <Mekkis> I'm EST :)
21:09 <Mekkis> 20
21:13 <Mekkis> AEST*
21:35 <`Evergreen`> I just turned 27 for the third time on Friday
21:45 <`Evergreen`> Columbus, OHio
21:47 <`Evergreen`> Male
21:51 <`Evergreen`> What's the "E" for?
21:53 <Avatar-> look at chapter 2 of the pfs guide
22:03 <Avatar-> eastern
22:09 <Avatar-> australian eastern
22:14 <`Evergreen`> oh, lol
22:20 <`Evergreen`> AEST, I thought that was ASL
22:25 <`Evergreen`> ha ha ha
22:37 <Avatar-> roll one up anyway
23:02 <`Evergreen`> I can do that
27:38 <Brunius> gg
28:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> we should get avatar into terraria
29:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> speaking of terraria, can you help me kill the wall of death?
29:35 <Mekkis> someone should buy me a copy of minecraft
30:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> why?
30:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> you so poor you can't affort 15-20 bucks?
30:32 <Mekkis> And if I am?
30:34 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2: I've killed the wall of death
30:37 <Avatar> and gone well beyond that
30:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> well I need it XD
30:48 Avatar- has quit (Quit: go get analysed)
30:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> can't do it solo
30:52 <Avatar> maybe I should get YOU into terraria
30:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
30:59 <Avatar> I'll jump in right now
31:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> nice
31:02 <Avatar> server me up
31:03 <Mekkis> Avatar, give me that screenshot!
31:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've got you on steam right?
31:12 <Avatar> let me kill this thing with spaceshot first
31:15 <Avatar> it will be super fast
31:17 <Mekkis> no!
31:29 <Avatar> yeah I'm on your steam list
32:19 <`Evergreen`> Ew, the character sheet template is really gross
32:24 <Mekkis> agreed
32:34 <Mekkis> I use a LaTeX sheet with several outputs :)
32:35 <`Evergreen`> Is this a first level character? Do I need to purchase equipment?
32:40 <Avatar> you can use your own
32:42 <Mekkis> you have 150gp
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33:10 <Avatar> Mekkis: feel free to make another template
33:15 <Avatar> I'll upload it if it's decent
33:27 <Mekkis> Avatar, show me that screenshot ....
33:35 <Avatar> yeah in a bit
33:45 <`Evergreen`> So, yes, lvl1 toon, yes, list starting equipment 150g
42:03 <Thelen> Mekkis nice man!
42:36 <Thelen> also, the guide does say +1
42:59 <MekkisScreen> Thelen: where?
43:35 <Thelen> ill find it soon
43:36 <Thelen> eating :D
43:58 <MekkisScreen> Exotic Weapon Proficiency (Combat)
43:58 <MekkisScreen> Choose one type of exotic weapon, such as the spiked chain or whip. You understand how to use that type of exotic weapon in combat, and can utilize any special tricks or qualities that exotic weapon might allow.
44:02 <MekkisScreen> Prerequisite: Base attack bonus +1.
44:05 <MekkisScreen> Benefit: You make attack rolls with the weapon normally.
44:07 <MekkisScreen> Normal: A character who uses a weapon with which he is not proficient takes a 4 penalty on attack rolls.
44:11 <MekkisScreen> Special: You can gain Exotic Weapon Proficiency multiple times. Each time you take the feat, it applies to a new type of exotic weapon.
44:41 <Avatar> okay, screenshot
44:46 <Avatar> which character
46:36 <Avatar> wait a sec, nameless does line up
46:51 <Avatar> I'll fine you one or three that don't
48:52 <Brunius> find?
50:41 <MekkisScreen> ok
52:50 <Avatar> it's actually a lot better than last time I looked at these
52:57 <Avatar> http://imgur.com/a/8x9zH
53:00 <Mekkis> it hasn't changed
53:11 <Avatar> grolschmir, kormighan and nightmare
53:17 <Avatar> they used to be bloody awful man
54:12 <Mekkis> !history grolschmir
54:21 <Mekkis> !history kormigahn
54:30 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
54:32 <Mekkis> !history grolschmir
54:40 <Avatar> I might have spelt korm's name wrong
54:41 <Mekkis> !history Grolschmir
54:46 <Avatar> and possibly grolschmir's :P
56:13 <MekkisScreen> !findchar Grolschmir
56:13 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: Grolschmir, number: 267
56:26 <MekkisScreen> !diff 267 r75
56:27 <diebot> MekkisScreen, File saved to http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/sheets/diffs/267r75.txt
56:57 <Avatar> did `Evergreen` roll up a character
57:09 <MekkisScreen> format hasn't changed since then
57:17 <MekkisScreen> I think you've just got a shitty browser
57:32 <Avatar> I don't think chrome or firefox are shitty browsers
57:34 <MekkisScreen> and are complaining because of my superior use of technology :)
57:51 <MekkisScreen> or maybe it's your version or configuration of windows
58:01 <Avatar> if windows chrome or windows firefox can't handle your character sheet, you need to do something differently
58:07 <MekkisScreen> noone else has complained
58:12 <Avatar> Ballig has
58:31 <Avatar> I don't know who else cares since nobody else has to DM for you :P
58:34 <MekkisScreen> he doesn't bring it up
58:49 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure he has man
58:53 <Avatar> this is not a new thing
58:58 <MekkisScreen> (if he did, I'd bring up his site's lack of UTF8 encoding)
59:13 <`Evergreen`> I'm working on my character now
59:14 <Avatar> how easy is that to fix
59:27 <`Evergreen`> I guess it'd be easier if I picked a fighter
59:29 <MekkisScreen> not sure
59:39 <MekkisScreen> `Evergreen`: Sorcerer is easier than fighter
59:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> wow you're character sheet is fucked mekkis
59:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> stop using non windows characters (no idea what encoding it is)
00:02 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot_tm2: I don't value your opinion on these matters
00:08 <`Evergreen`> I picked Wizard
00:12 <Avatar> there are dodgy characters on it 
00:17 <Avatar> I was only looking at the formatting
00:47 <Avatar> look at the speed on that first character sheet
00:50 <MekkisScreen> I should just upload the postscript file
00:57 <Avatar> what've you got after 20 where ft is supposed to be
00:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> I was looking at the characters (letters and such, not the character itself)
01:06 <Avatar> and height
01:20 <MekkisScreen> 3'4"
01:27 <Avatar> how come it shows on ours but not on yours
01:45 <Avatar> like this is the thing, nobody else has this problem but you
01:51 <Avatar> that suggests it's not the site that needs fixing
02:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> because he's using a different encoding set
02:10 <Avatar> why
02:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's what unix uses
02:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> or his version of unix users, or just his preference
02:29 <MekkisScreen> to state that I have infinite cantrips
02:46 <Avatar> can you change the encoding on your end mekkis
03:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> this is what I get
03:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> Height: 3’4“, Weight: 15.42kg/38lb
03:25 <`Evergreen`> Yuck, sounds like a gnome
03:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> Resist natureâĂŹs lure
03:38 <Avatar> it is a gnome
03:46 <Spaceshot_tm2>  SPEED 20’, 4sq
03:53 <Avatar> for the gnomish reroll trait 
04:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> and there's more
04:02 <`Evergreen`> gross
04:07 <`Evergreen`> then you have to be a gnome
04:11 <Avatar> I think he gets a bonus to cha as well
04:11 <`Evergreen`> and they have tiny hands
04:22 <Avatar> which assists to his +21 to diplomacy 
04:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> sounds like every time you use either ' or " it's unreadable
04:27 <Avatar> at uh, 1st level?
04:41 <`Evergreen`> Diplomancy
04:52 <MekkisScreen> 21nd
04:56 <MekkisScreen> it was only +20 at first
05:07 <Avatar> why does your sheet say +13 now
06:27 <`Evergreen`> so, to clarify, I need to copy/paste my character sheet into a word document or some such, it must obviously be text based, and can't be one of those lovely pdfs 
07:15 <Avatar> into a text file, not a word document
07:20 <MekkisScreen> Avatar offers to transcribe it for you :)
07:43 <Avatar> are you having trouble with it
07:49 <MekkisScreen> with no tabs in it :S
08:00 <Avatar> it's not that hard to press spacebar instead of tab man
08:08 <`Evergreen`> lol
08:08 <Avatar> the template already allows for that
08:18 <Avatar> as in the spaces are already there
09:53 <Avatar> `Evergreen`: are you converting an existing character, or what?
10:22 <`Evergreen`> No, I have a lvl 3 rogue, a lvl 4 Oracle/Cleric, and I was working on a lvl 4 Wizard
10:43 <`Evergreen`> So I don't have anything to immediately transfer, but I have a good idea of what I'm doing with him
11:18 <`Evergreen`> Since I'm not familiar with the template, I'll make it in PDF form first, and then just transcribe when I'm finished. I think itll go faster
13:11 <Avatar> I've never seen that work well, honestly
13:24 <Avatar> newbies have tried it and ended up giving up and leaving
13:54 <Avatar> someone's just offered me a job
14:15 <Brunius> Take it then
15:57 <Avatar> I don't know exactly what it is
16:01 <Avatar> i'm told it's IT
16:45 <Avatar> and I'd be forced to have an iphone :(
17:09 <Brunius> HA
18:14 <`Evergreen`> I wont give up, I'll just order a pizza
18:41 <Thelen> Mekkis hmmm what does that actually mean. you have to have the feat to use the weapon normally?
18:45 <Thelen> ie if i didn't, i'd take -4?
19:24 <Avatar> `Evergreen`: once you've chosen a first name for your character, I'll set you up with an account on the site
19:28 <Avatar> so you can upload it
20:43 <`Evergreen`> oh, its Harold Poitier
21:02 <Avatar> I like it
21:30 <`Evergreen`> I wanted to come up with a good, single sylable alias
21:57 <`Evergreen`> since "Harold Poitier" is just a twist on "Harry Potter", lol
22:15 <Avatar> yeah man don't tell anyone
22:23 <Avatar> it's pretty obvious
22:28 <Avatar> keep the subtlety
22:31 <`Evergreen`> I wasn't sure
22:36 <`Evergreen`> maybe not so big in Australia
23:04 <Mekkis> Thelen, correct
23:37 <Thelen> ah
23:40 <Thelen> so any weapon i pick up
23:45 <Thelen> will be like that too?
24:34 <Avatar> yeah
24:40 <Thelen> ah
24:43 <Avatar> if you're not proficient, BANG -4 penalty
24:59 <Avatar> even improvised items like chairs and stuff
25:31 <Avatar> although I think there is a feat that even makes you proficient with throwing chairs and stuff
25:40 <Thelen> kool
25:53 <Avatar> throw anything
26:12 <Avatar> i'd love to see a character who specialised in ranged combat with throw anything
26:36 <Avatar> I'd want to add garbage items all over the place just to see this character throw them !!
26:40 <Thelen> lol
27:39 <`Evergreen`> good starting age for a human wizard?
27:47 <Brunius> 203
27:53 <Brunius> Uh, I mean, 27
28:06 <`Evergreen`> ty :)
28:45 <Avatar> minimum is 17 I think
29:01 <Avatar> 16
37:55 <`Evergreen`> hmm, about the feats
38:05 <Avatar> they're pretty sweet, aren't they
38:08 <`Evergreen`> is "Acadamae Graduate" cool for PFS?
38:13 <Avatar> what book is that in
39:02 <`Evergreen`> Curse of the Crimson Throne Player’s Guide
39:06 <Avatar> you'll want to look at this, click played Pathfinder: http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
39:27 <Avatar> specifically additional resources down the bottom
39:44 <Avatar> yeah that one is legal
40:01 <Avatar> it's listed up near the top of that additional resources page
40:21 <Avatar> you might want the exact text of the feat on your character sheet for that one
40:49 <`Evergreen`> Excellent, its listed
40:55 <`Evergreen`> ok
46:31 <`Evergreen`> So far: http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=331
46:42 <Avatar> 7 on your wis and cha is a -2 mod
48:11 <Avatar> does that feat mean reduce the casting time by one step?
48:35 <Avatar> when would it ever get reduced to a minimum of a standard action
48:52 <Avatar> I don't think there's any summoning spells that have a casting time of 1 full round + 1 standard action
50:17 <`Evergreen`> sorry, what about the -2? is that illegal?
50:26 <`Evergreen`> also, summoning spells are mostly full round
50:34 <`Evergreen`> some are 1 standard action
50:39 <`Evergreen`> some are 10 minutes
50:49 <`Evergreen`> that's the only three durations
51:17 <`Evergreen`> so, basically it takes most summons that are at a full round and reduces them to 1 standard action
51:18 <Brunius> If Avatar tries to tell you otherwise, just ignore him
51:23 <Brunius> He only skims
51:36 <`Evergreen`> he's correct
52:12 <`Evergreen`> There are only three durations, standard action, full round action, and 10 minutes. 
52:40 <Avatar> `Evergreen`: gotcha
52:45 <Avatar> Brunius: blow me, you don't know what you're talking about
53:07 <`Evergreen`> Okay, so I'm down to the skills part
53:09 <Avatar> you've got your abilities at 7 listed as -1
53:11 <Brunius> I'm making a general statement
53:12 <`Evergreen`> and it looks so disgusting
53:17 <Avatar> it's meant to be -2
53:26 <`Evergreen`> oh
53:28 <Avatar> if you have a better way of doing it, feel free to wipe the entire thing
53:42 <Avatar> if it's good enough I'll even set it into a template
53:57 <`Evergreen`> I went ahead and gave a bonus for awesomeness to those ability mods
54:21 <Avatar> don't know if DMs will agree with how awesome you think you are :P
54:23 <`Evergreen`> I corrected it
54:38 <`Evergreen`> Also, I'm sure that they will
55:33 <Avatar> Mekkis: he took toughness
55:33 <`Evergreen`> I only have 8 skill points
56:31 <`Evergreen`> oh
56:56 <`Evergreen`> I guess I can check if I need to, off the top of the head, human alternate favored class bonuses, are they permitted?
57:03 <Avatar> yeah they are
57:17 <`Evergreen`> excellent
57:23 <Avatar> whenever you're not sure if something's permitted, that additional resources page is your best friend
57:58 <`Evergreen`> Well, its a page with cross-references, so I'd need to find the place that the feature was published first, and then check the book list for specific errata
58:18 <`Evergreen`> Im not even sure if I would be able to verify if the alternate class features are CRB or APG or where they come from
58:26 <Brunius> I think they're APG
58:30 <Avatar> where are you looking them up
58:38 <Brunius> I remember seeing them on the Additional Resources list
58:45 <Avatar> yeah it is APG
11:45 <Avatar> Brunius: I'd plug google+ back to you if you were old enough to join it
14:23 <Brunius> :P
14:45 <`Evergreen`> so, this is an odd question
14:50 <`Evergreen`> cross class skills
15:00 <Brunius> What about them?
15:01 <`Evergreen`> thats a dnd thing, but is it in pf too?
15:14 <`Evergreen`> I mean, the negative, 2 pts for 1 rank?
15:55 <`Evergreen`> its just, no bonus of +3
16:54 <MekkisScreen> ccorrect
17:08 <MekkisScreen> just on +3
17:13 <MekkisScreen> just no*
17:45 <`Evergreen`> no *?
17:57 <`Evergreen`> trained only?
18:03 <MekkisScreen> no +3
19:30 <Avatar> you don't pay 2 points for 1 rank in cross class skills anymore
19:41 <Avatar> instead you get a +3 bonus on any class skill you have a rank in
22:19 <Brunius> Ok, I'm on Google+
22:21 <`Evergreen`> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=331
22:23 <Avatar> I find a good rule of thumb is to put a rank into trained-only class skill pretty quickly
22:46 <`Evergreen`> When you have only 8 at lvl 1, it makes it hard
22:55 <`Evergreen`> I want all the knowledges, but I had to be picky
23:01 <`Evergreen`> not sure about the point in ride, yet
23:21 <Avatar> only 8
23:24 <Avatar> Thelen has only 3
23:30 <Avatar> 8 at level 1 is fantastic
23:35 <`Evergreen`> also, ride is not a class skill, need to fix that
23:48 <Avatar> I'll tell you right now perception is the best skill in PFS
23:54 <`Evergreen`> oh, no, dont get me wrong
24:06 <Avatar> you're used to your level 4 characters
24:07 <Avatar> I get it
24:10 <`Evergreen`> my rogue is a half elf, 3 ranks in perception, and skill focus perception
24:18 <`Evergreen`> its the most used skill ever
24:56 <Avatar> I don't think I actually got to play any pathfinder before PFS
25:07 <`Evergreen`> its not that I have few skill points, theres just so many knows
25:09 <Avatar> oh wait I lie, EM was pathfinder
25:16 <Avatar> that didn't last long though
25:33 <Brunius> Didn't that get jettisoned after 1 session because of Spaceshot?
25:44 <Avatar> wasn't just spaceshot
25:50 <Avatar> magus took off and uh
25:54 <Avatar> were you in it
25:59 <Brunius> nope
26:04 <Avatar> who was the other guy
26:11 <Brunius> balls
26:33 <Avatar> no the other guy
26:40 <Avatar> Ballig obviously didn't take off
27:04 <Avatar> Ross ?
27:12 <Avatar> yeah the 3 of them took off
28:04 <Brunius> wtf are circles, Avatar?
28:08 <Brunius> On Google+
28:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> groups
29:06 <Avatar> they're your privacy settings, basically
29:16 <Avatar> when you add people, you add them to a circle
29:21 <Avatar> and then when you post, you select which circles to post to
29:29 <Avatar> or you can read your stream by circle
29:31 <Brunius> Alright
29:37 <Avatar> I've got a d20 circle
29:45 <Avatar> you can put people into multiple circles too
29:46 <`Evergreen`> thats what she said
29:55 <Avatar> she didn't say that man
30:15 <`Evergreen`> I heard her?
30:37 <`Evergreen`> Anyway, its 11:30pm here. I have to work in the morning
30:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> circles/groups are the only reason why google+ can compete with facebook
30:40 <Avatar> I think you were imagining things
30:42 <`Evergreen`> I almost have the sheet done
30:52 <`Evergreen`> well, not really, but w/e
30:55 <Avatar> google+ is turning into something quite different from facebook
31:00 <`Evergreen`> I will work on it tomorrow at work instead of working
31:05 <Avatar> most of the people I'm following I don't know
31:14 <Avatar> my stream is just full of interesting shit
31:24 <`Evergreen`> thats what she said
31:25 <Brunius> `Evergreen`, most of our games start about 3 hours after now
31:34 <`Evergreen`> oh, lame
31:35 <Avatar> no they don't
31:41 <Avatar> they start about 6 hours from before now
31:41 <Brunius> Our PFS games don't
31:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> most weekday ones do
31:43 <Brunius> Other games do
31:50 <Avatar> what other games
31:53 <Avatar> oh, weekday games
31:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> most during the weekend ones go by avatars displayed time
32:01 <Avatar> we haven't played a weekday game in a long time
32:03 <Brunius> We don't have and weekday games do we?
32:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> wasn't shadowrun the last weekday one?
32:22 <Avatar> probably
32:26 <Avatar> that was about a year ago wasn't it
32:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> not yet Brunius, but I'm tempting to do one soon
32:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> once I hit melb and settle down
32:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> 9months to a year yea
32:56 <`Evergreen`> Melbourne? Careful during travel. I heard the dingos surrounded the city.
33:01 <Brunius> ...
33:08 <Avatar> who told you that
33:12 <Brunius> Dude, if Dingos surrounded the city, I'd be mauled to death by now
33:13 <`Evergreen`> The roos did
33:23 <Avatar> fair enough dr doolittle
33:28 <Brunius> My roo is sick :S I have to take my emu to school
33:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> watch out for those drop bears on the way brunius
33:46 <`Evergreen`> my roo is sick, I have to take my emu to school, and a dingo ate my baby
33:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> you don't want to get mauled
33:58 <`Evergreen`> a dingo ate my baby!
34:07 <Brunius> Statistically unlikely
34:18 <`Evergreen`> So, what was the verdict? Should I bother making a sheet, or not? When are the PFS games?
34:31 <Brunius> 5 and a half hours ago is when we usually start
34:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh, and cryky (however it's spelt) isn't our most said word in australia
34:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> Fuck probably is
34:41 <Brunius> usually end in about half an hour
35:00 <`Evergreen`> Oh, I didnt think it was Cryky
35:16 <Brunius> Crikey, that's a big one!
35:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> good
35:18 <`Evergreen`> I thought that it was a silent prayer in memorium of St. Erwin
35:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> ...
35:36 <Avatar> `Evergreen`: it'll be about 7pm your time that games start
35:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> Erwin was a fucknuckle
35:41 <Avatar> on fridays and saturdays
35:52 <Avatar> it's 3.30pm here on tuesday
36:02 <Avatar> and games are on 10am saturday and sunday our time
36:03 <`Evergreen`> HOLY SHIT!
36:08 <`Evergreen`> YOU GUYS ARE IN THE FUTURE!
36:12 <`Evergreen`> Its only Monday here
36:15 <Avatar> yep better believe it
36:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> stop being in the past
36:29 <`Evergreen`> I actually love Australia
36:36 <`Evergreen`> because of how close it is to New Zealand
36:51 <`Evergreen`> and that's where Xena is from
36:55 <Avatar> that's a pretty strange reason to love australia
36:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
37:01 <Avatar> why not just love new zealand
37:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's also where middle earth resides
37:18 <Avatar> it's like yay I'm in australia, but not in new zealand, but at least it's close
37:20 <`Evergreen`> I do also like Australia because of Tabitha Coffee
37:41 <Brunius> I like Australia because it doesn't have rednecks in it.
37:49 <Brunius> It has fucking bogans instead
37:51 <`Evergreen`> Wow, that's fortunate
37:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> bogans are quite the same
38:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> they just don't have guns
38:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> which makes them safer
38:35 <`Evergreen`> oh, bogans? is that a native people that you put down for illiteracy, alcoholism, and a love of stock car racing?
38:44 <`Evergreen`> that's what we do with rednecks here
39:08 <`Evergreen`> I'm not a redneck, even though I live in Ohio
40:00 <Avatar> I think rednecks are to america as bogans are to australia
40:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> been established avatar, but thanks for the recap
40:17 <Avatar> oh woops
40:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> told you, he skims
40:30 <Avatar> I didn't read it
40:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> skimming/not reading
40:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> same shit different smell
40:45 <Avatar> you smell different
40:48 <`Evergreen`> Do you have democracy in Australia?
40:58 <Avatar> pretend democracy
41:05 <Brunius> What's that meant to mean, Avatar?
41:06 <`Evergreen`> If not, let me know. I can tell the government. They ship that stuff in.
41:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
41:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't think china is a democracy
41:24 <Avatar> what's what meant to mean
41:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> talk to them about it
42:00 <`Evergreen`> We actually don't care if they are. We just want their high Craft:Plastic mod
42:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> they craft shit
42:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure they spam craft shit
42:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> but it's still shit
42:40 <`Evergreen`> We also like their Proffesion: Lender skill is really awesome
43:07 <Avatar> sam and max is 75% off on steam for the next 13 hours
43:14 <Brunius> So?
43:14 <Avatar> highly recommended for $15 for the complete pack
44:31 <`Evergreen`> Anyway, I've gotta run. Like I said, tomorrow (which is aparently today for some of you), I will work on my character sheet. I should have it complete by the time I leave the office.
44:45 <`Evergreen`> Hopefully I can find my back here.
44:57 <Brunius> Hopefully
45:15 <Avatar> gg
45:29 <`Evergreen`> *way
45:42 <`Evergreen`> my back is attached to my front
45:52 <`Evergreen`> anyhow, n2mu, and peace
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53:29 <MekkisScreen> I should make an archer for my sixth character
53:43 <MekkisScreen> probably slowpro him at 4th
53:53 <Avatar> an archer with throw anything !
54:22 <Brunius> slowpro?
54:24 <MekkisScreen> an archer/alchemist!
54:28 <MekkisScreen> slowprogression
54:29 <Brunius> OH god
54:41 <Brunius> archer/alchemist with throw anything...
54:53 <Brunius> This isn't going to end well
55:00 <MekkisScreen> I don't know if I keep playing gnomes just to annoy John...
55:00 <Brunius> Gotta go, see you folks later
55:04 <Brunius> Ha
55:24 <Brunius> When we played Shades of Ice I, our party was 60% small races, I think
55:34 <MekkisScreen> so he tried to KILL YOU ALL?
55:39 <MekkisScreen> with his alchemists?
55:46 <Brunius> Yeah, totally
55:55 <MekkisScreen> or was that shades of ice II
55:57 <MekkisScreen> yeah
55:58 <MekkisScreen> it was
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03:00 <Avatar> Mekkis: avoid spoilers, please
03:03 <Avatar> he hasn't played shades of ice 2
15:06 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
15:10 <MekkisScreen> sorry
15:17 <MekkisScreen> small archer 
15:31 <MekkisScreen> why are small races always charismatic?
18:40 <Avatar> they're supposed to be cuter
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24:31 <Avatar> Mekkis: did you ever advertise the channel on the paizo boards?
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25:37 <Avatar> Paragon
25:39 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
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33:43 <snypt> rollu p your face
35:58 <Avatar> goddammit snypt
36:04 <Avatar> you're messing up my style
41:23 <snypt> lol
41:32 <snypt> from now on ill just join with random nicks
41:49 <Avatar> I don't know man, I'm more prone to banning a newbie
42:11 <Avatar> ask Thelen
42:20 <snypt> im not afraid of your bans
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42:28 <Avatar> you say that now tough guy
42:32 <snypt> lol
42:34 <ChuckBrowneyes> hai
42:35 <Avatar> ChuckBrowneyes
42:37 <Avatar> roll up a character !!
42:40 <Mekkis> Avatar, not really
42:51 <Mekkis> DIY
42:53 <ChuckBrowneyes> when u guys play again
43:05 <Avatar> weekends
43:10 <Avatar> have you been here before
43:15 <ChuckBrowneyes> ages ago
43:19 <Avatar> what happened
43:28 <ChuckBrowneyes> i formatted my hd
43:32 <ChuckBrowneyes> and didnt install mirc for ages
43:52 <Avatar> why not
43:54 <snypt> more like Avatar offended him 
43:59 <snypt> what ajer
44:01 <Avatar> I'll offend you
44:02 <ChuckBrowneyes> u offended me avatar...
44:02 <snypt> jerk **
44:11 <ChuckBrowneyes> jk lol :p
44:22 <ChuckBrowneyes> um i think i started playign age of conan or something
44:28 <ChuckBrowneyes> or dawn of war 2
44:31 <Avatar> pathfinder is superior to age of conan
44:33 <Avatar> and dawn of war 2
44:34 <ChuckBrowneyes> and never got around to it
44:39 <ChuckBrowneyes> whats that
44:47 <Avatar> it's the new d&d
44:47 <Mekkis> I played the DoW2 beta
44:52 <Mekkis> realised it was shit
44:57 <snypt> anythig i superior to age of conan
45:05 <snypt> even the rpgs Spaceshot_tm2 is making
45:05 <Avatar> while you were busy playing age of conan and dawn of war, d&d evolved
45:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
46:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> age of conan is really good for the first area
46:08 <snypt> Avatar, i came across this cool old book i have in my collection and i looked it up online last night
46:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> after that it's worse than everquest
46:15 <snypt> it is from 1671
46:20 <snypt> thats an old fucking book
46:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> if your edition is actually from then then fuck that's old
46:48 <ChuckBrowneyes> yeah aoc was fun for a while
46:48 <snypt> kinda random but i just saw i didnt close the site i was on
46:51 <ChuckBrowneyes> then it turns really bad
46:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> and probs worth somethin
46:53 <snypt> yeah it is
46:55 <ChuckBrowneyes> very grindy
46:59 <ChuckBrowneyes> and pvp is unbalanced
47:00 <snypt> about $800usd
47:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> nice
47:08 <snypt> i picked it up ages ago off a mate
47:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> the sad part about the game chuck, was I bet they raced everything after the first area
47:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> because they had a release date
47:47 <ChuckBrowneyes> it went f2p a few months ago
47:50 <ChuckBrowneyes> thats when i played it
47:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea I noticed
47:56 <ChuckBrowneyes> did u play it at release?
48:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> I bought the game yes
48:03 <ChuckBrowneyes> apparantly there was way less content at release
48:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure was
48:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> everyone who raced to end game were very disapointed
48:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> WHO THE FUCK RACES TO END GAME?
48:40 <Avatar> everyone
48:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> why?
48:56 <ChuckBrowneyes> i always do it to =/
48:59 <ChuckBrowneyes> then i regret it
49:01 <ChuckBrowneyes> i gotta stop it
49:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> it makes the games boring
49:11 <MekkisScreen> people who think the game sucks, and want to just see the ending?
49:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's why I hate wow, it's all about the end game
49:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis, there is no ending in MMOs
49:23 <ChuckBrowneyes> i did it cos i wanted to pvp
49:26 <ChuckBrowneyes> and higher lvls where ganking me
49:33 <MekkisScreen> ah
49:37 <MekkisScreen> but MMOs suck :S
49:38 <ChuckBrowneyes> being total cunts
50:00 <Avatar> SWTOR is pretty good
50:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea, main reason why I stopped playing, that and the areas after the first were just like wow
50:14 <ChuckBrowneyes> yeah i got swtor
50:17 <ChuckBrowneyes> but i cant log in yet
50:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
50:22 <ChuckBrowneyes> i think i can log in tonight maybe
50:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> I really cbf MMOs these days
50:30 <ChuckBrowneyes> i think im gonna try play it casually
50:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> nothing worth it
50:40 <ChuckBrowneyes> instead of letting mmo's consume me
50:42 <Avatar> the pricing model of MMOs is all wrong
50:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> which model?
51:03 <Avatar> they don't get that not everyone wants to play their games nonstop
51:11 <Avatar> you can't play casually because that means you're being ripped off
51:17 <Avatar> if you want to play once a week, for example
51:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> yup
51:39 <MekkisScreen> yep
51:43 <MekkisScreen> well... no
51:48 <MekkisScreen> it isn't wrong
51:50 <MekkisScreen> it works
51:59 <MekkisScreen> the company gets lots of money
52:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis, people play sc2, even though TA is better
52:01 <ChuckBrowneyes> yeah it sux
52:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's wrong, but it works
52:09 <Avatar> the company doesn't get my money
52:13 <snypt> wow is about the end game now but in vanilla leveling was awesome
52:15 <Avatar> and I'm sure I'm not alone
52:18 <ChuckBrowneyes> if u want to compete in alot of MMOs its like taking on a 2nd job
52:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> in vanilla it took time and effort to level
52:29 <MekkisScreen> put it this way, you pour money into an MMO
52:39 <snypt> eve is where it is at
52:41 <ChuckBrowneyes> thats one good thing about aoc now tho
52:41 <Avatar> they'd get my money if they had a casual plan
52:44 <ChuckBrowneyes> they give u offline lvls
52:49 <ChuckBrowneyes> u get a free lvl every 4 days
52:59 <Avatar> forget fucking eve
53:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> hahaha
53:02 <ChuckBrowneyes> was that around at release?
53:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> not that I know of
53:07 <snypt> eve is pro
53:12 <ChuckBrowneyes> but u dont have to use the lvls if u dont want
53:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
53:22 <Avatar> DDO is good, I wouldn't mind getting back into that again
53:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar, I'd play with you if you got it
53:40 <snypt> i hated ddo
53:43 <Avatar> I want to play my higher level characters
53:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> I wouldn't mind playing it, but when it came out (when I played it) you need a group
53:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> or be average
54:10 <Avatar> higher level being like around level 4-7
54:29 <Avatar> I'll look at reinstalling it over the next couple of days
54:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> I liked how in DDO you had to be adventrous to get some chests
54:47 <Avatar> snypt: why did you hate it?
55:02 <ChuckBrowneyes> i played it for a bit
55:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> cause he can't spend as long as he wants on decisions
55:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
55:14 <MekkisScreen> then because you've poured all that time and money into the MMO, you don't really want to change
55:17 <ChuckBrowneyes> i went into the bar and jumped on the counter and some players got offended
55:25 <Avatar> haha
55:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
55:32 <ChuckBrowneyes> xD
55:34 <MekkisScreen> because it's like throwing the money and time away
55:46 <MekkisScreen> it's like the "dollar auction" scenario
55:51 <Avatar> Mekkis: that's shit for us though man
55:58 <Avatar> they talk about how they don't want us addicted
56:12 <MekkisScreen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dollar_auction
56:21 <snypt> it was mostly just not smooth enough
56:24 <MekkisScreen> it's not shit for me
56:33 <snypt> the gameplay was ok it was more the engine
56:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> did you play it at release snypt?
56:49 <snypt> pretty close to release
56:51 <MekkisScreen> except that that sort of thing pulls players away from here, for instance
56:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea that'd be the issue
56:55 <ChuckBrowneyes> did u guys play planescape and baldurs gate 1 and 2
56:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> supposedly they've fixed a lot
57:09 <snypt> might be worth another go then
57:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> might be
57:21 <snypt> i do already have alot of games on the go tho
57:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> what else do you play snypt?
57:33 <snypt> skyrim, mw3, bf3, hon
57:38 <snypt> eve
57:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> ...
57:48 <snypt> was even thinking about giving wow another go
57:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
58:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> why MW3 and bf3?
58:16 <snypt> even if they did break my world
58:28 <snypt> nothing wrong with a bit of fps action
58:36 <snypt> i actually play mw2 more than both of them 
58:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> play tf2 then
58:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's free and better
58:58 <Avatar> Mekkis: are you actually playing any of the games in question
59:10 <MekkisScreen> which games?
59:11 <MekkisScreen> MMOs?
59:15 <Avatar> yes
59:22 <MekkisScreen> nope
59:26 <Avatar> then what are you talking about
59:29 <Avatar> of course it's not shit for you
59:31 <MekkisScreen> it's a waste of time and money
59:36 <Avatar> we're only talking about actual players
59:39 <MekkisScreen> 06:54 < MekkisScreen> except that that sort of thing pulls players away from here, for instance
59:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis, you played magic right?
59:48 <MekkisScreen> yes, I do
59:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> isn't that also a waste of time and money?
00:04 <MekkisScreen> no
00:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> explain how so
00:14 <MekkisScreen> I've made a profit on it
00:20 <ChuckBrowneyes> did u guys play mtg
00:25 <MekkisScreen> I do
00:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> I did
00:30 <Avatar> I think he wins there, spaceshot
00:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't want to get into it ever again if I have to spend anything on it
00:41 <MekkisScreen> I judge :)
00:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> I really doubt he's made a profit
01:03 <Avatar> judging magic =/= playing magic
01:06 <snypt> i dunno mekkis is a card ninjar
01:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> yup
01:21 <ChuckBrowneyes> i just played the single player
01:25 <ChuckBrowneyes> the AI was so fucking bad
01:27 <Avatar> I guess playing leads to judging
01:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> ???
01:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> no we need the actual card game
01:33 <MekkisScreen> there's a signle player?
01:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> not the comp game
01:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> we mean*
01:42 <ChuckBrowneyes> the computer game
01:44 <Avatar> ChuckBrowneyes: the AI is pretty good vs me
01:51 <ChuckBrowneyes> duels of planeswalkers
01:52 <Avatar> are you talking about the steam one
01:54 <Avatar> yeah
01:55 <MekkisScreen> DotP was /painful/
01:55 <ChuckBrowneyes> nah i meant archenemey mode
02:02 <ChuckBrowneyes> my allies made me lose about 20x in a row
02:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> the first game back in the day by microprose was an awesome game
02:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> that I still play every so often
02:22 <Avatar> Mekkis: painful how
02:24 <MekkisScreen> just make everyone play with Jace's deck :S
02:27 <MekkisScreen> slow
02:30 <ChuckBrowneyes> yeah even then they did
02:32 <Avatar> it is, isn't it!
02:35 <Avatar> I thought that was just me
02:41 <ChuckBrowneyes> they would return cards to the owners hand
02:44 <MekkisScreen> doesn't let you do the "correct" play
02:48 <ChuckBrowneyes> that made u discard every time they came on battleflied
02:53 <ChuckBrowneyes> so we had to discard like 3x more cards
03:01 <ChuckBrowneyes> then they would waste a counter on something really shit
03:01 <MekkisScreen> doesn't let you kick your teammates
03:12 <ChuckBrowneyes> so the enemey could get off a destory all creatures
03:14 <MekkisScreen> but it's slow
03:31 <ChuckBrowneyes> onyl way i won was by using a krakens eye and getting so much hps i could outlast the final guy till eh had no cards
03:42 <MekkisScreen> strange
03:45 <MekkisScreen> I never had that issue
04:00 <MekkisScreen> I generally won, but it was painful
04:02 <ChuckBrowneyes> maybe i had a shit version of it
04:12 <MekkisScreen> I used skidrow's version
04:12 <MekkisScreen> :S
04:27 <ChuckBrowneyes> the allies caused us to lose like 20x
04:30 <ChuckBrowneyes> by doing dumbshit
04:56 <MekkisScreen> of, and it doesn't let you get rid of shitty card in your deck
05:00 <MekkisScreen> like karken's eye
05:01 <MekkisScreen> :)
05:12 <ChuckBrowneyes> yeah true
05:19 <ChuckBrowneyes> but i needed it to make up for even shittier allies
05:41 <MekkisScreen> it doesn't make you up
05:59 <MekkisScreen> it just makes you lose card advantage
06:16 <ChuckBrowneyes> yeah i tried to edit deck and it wouldnt let me
06:25 <ChuckBrowneyes> i think u have to register it or something
06:32 <MekkisScreen> nope
06:35 <MekkisScreen> it doesn't let you
07:48 <ChuckBrowneyes> and i think they want u to pay for more decks
08:00 <ChuckBrowneyes> cos when it said i was unlocking decks from winning battles it didnt even give them to me
10:45 <ChuckBrowneyes> omg i can log into swtor now
10:51 <ChuckBrowneyes> nerd boner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
10:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> have fun playing wow
11:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> I mean star wars wow
11:05 <ChuckBrowneyes> wow in space lol
11:16 <ChuckBrowneyes> i never played the original wow tho so it may nto be so bad
11:19 <ChuckBrowneyes> i only played wow for 2hrs
11:24 <Avatar> SWTOR is better than wow
11:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's only because it's not wow
11:35 <MekkisScreen> that's not hard\
11:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> and with shinier graphics
11:42 <Avatar> it's not
11:56 <Avatar> I think swtor took wow's good stuff and made it better
12:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> no, that's rifts
12:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> which no one even really knew was there
12:24 <Avatar> when I saw previews of swtor, my first thought was ... that looks exactly like wow with lightsabers
12:31 <Avatar> but playing the beta, it's really not
12:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> you should really try rifts
12:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's got a free trial
12:56 <Avatar> do you mean rift
13:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> rifts/rift whatev
13:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> but yes
13:17 <Avatar> I only tried swtor because it was supposed to be amazing
13:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> so was rift
13:43 <MekkisScreen> how about you don't play an MMO?
13:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> it was just shuved under the radar
13:44 <Avatar> I don't think it lives up that super crazy teaser that had us going on for years
14:00 <Avatar> but then I only got up to level 11ish
14:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> rift or swtor?
14:07 <Avatar> er, 14 actually
14:09 <Avatar> swtor
14:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> did you ever play WAR?
14:30 <Avatar> don't think so, what's WAR
14:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> warhammer age of reckoning
14:51 <Avatar> nah never got into warhammer
15:00 <Avatar> canine tried to send me a rulebook about it but it wasn't bookmarked
15:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> ...
15:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't pull a mekkis and change the subject
15:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> anywho
15:17 <Avatar> pardon
15:34 <Avatar> I'm talking about warhammer
15:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm talking about the MMO not the miniatures
15:48 <Avatar> I never got into warhammer, except for that
15:59 <Avatar> into *any* warhammer
16:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> ANYWHO
16:10 <MekkisScreen> who?
16:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> WAR was better than wow except they hard capped the end game
16:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> which was stupid
16:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> when you have the capital cities of the 2 sides facing off against each other, and you can raid the opposing capital, how do you top that for end game?
17:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh and they didn't make it 3 sided like DAC was
17:27 <MekkisScreen> yeah, when people have spent enough time and money reaching the cap, they're the people who;ll gladly pay for the expansion
17:35 <Thelen> hnn
17:36 <MekkisScreen> so they can spend even more time and money!
17:37 <ChuckBrowneyes> the intros pretty damn cool for swtor tho
17:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis, you played any MMOs?
17:57 <MekkisScreen> I played a web-based one back in uni
18:11 <MekkisScreen> I managed to manage the whole thing as a cron job
18:14 <MekkisScreen> that was fun
18:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> so that's practically a no?
18:19 <Avatar> pretty sure web-based doesn't count
18:27 <ChuckBrowneyes> ive played uo asherons call shadowbane darkfall
18:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> then stop putting out stuff without knowledge
18:32 <ChuckBrowneyes> aoc
18:40 <ChuckBrowneyes> heaps of others for not much time
18:44 <Avatar> that does seem pretty odd
18:47 <ChuckBrowneyes> like tried wow and eve
18:58 <Avatar> how can you never have played an MMO yet have such a strong opinion about it
19:10 <MekkisScreen> until they banned me for proving that a computer can play the game better than a person can
19:22 <ChuckBrowneyes> will i get better ping from west coast or east coast
19:29 <MekkisScreen> because I've seen the economic and social effects that MMOs have
19:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've played: WoW, EQ2, AOC, Fury, WAR, Face of Mankind (great game), Eve, The one that the UO creator made and then flopped
19:59 <Avatar> I think you're seeing only one side of the story there
20:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> and I think a few more
20:15 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot_tm2: have you ever had a job?
20:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> chuck; where do you live?
20:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> define job
20:35 <Thelen> Mekkis what was that web-based one?
20:41 <MekkisScreen> paying, gainful employment
20:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've had to work if that's what you're asking
20:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> for quasi income
21:08 <MekkisScreen> Thelen: Darkthrone or something
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21:26 <Thelen> ah ok
21:34 <Thelen> first game i ever played was empirequest
21:42 <Thelen> not been one as good since it
21:50 <Thelen> then one called paradox, was really small, similar idea
21:56 <Thelen> then i hit the ocrack :D
22:08 <Thelen> played ocrack for few years
22:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> ocrack?
22:32 <Thelen> oGame
22:34 <MekkisScreen> I understand the economics of MMOs though....
22:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you don't understand why people pay for it though
22:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> that's the major part of it
22:55 <MekkisScreen> I do
22:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> and the reason why we are saying your comments are invalid
23:15 <MekkisScreen> they pay for it because if they didn't, they'd be throwing all the money they previously paid away
23:25 <MekkisScreen> that's one reason it's hard to get a new MMO off the ground
23:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> no fucknuckle
23:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> why they pay for it in the first place
23:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> shit you're retarded sometimes
23:37 <MekkisScreen> because there's all this inertial embedded in the system
23:45 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot_tm2: why do people start smoking?
24:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's known to be a stress reliever
24:15 <Thelen> so is WoW
24:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> to some extent
24:34 <Thelen> people that pay for their games only do it when they have community
24:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> but WoW less so once you hit end game
24:40 <Thelen> which means a clan or w/e
24:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> not really
24:47 <Thelen> to a less extent if they just love playing it
24:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've paid for many games without knowing people getting into it
24:59 <MekkisScreen> some of them start ebcause of peer pressure
25:02 <Thelen> yea, small percentage
25:08 <Thelen> *most* of the tens of millioins
25:09 <MekkisScreen> (both playingMMOs and smoking)
25:11 <Thelen> do it
25:28 <Thelen> once you rule out the fat guys living in their parents basement
25:39 <Thelen> the biggest group only pay and play due to community
25:47 <Thelen> its the same regardless of if u pay or not
25:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> if you say so
26:04 <Thelen> people are still playing ogame earlier universes 7 years later
26:13 <Thelen> even though there is only like 200 players per universe lol
28:18 <Thelen> anyway games do less damage than other things
28:22 <Thelen> empirically
28:32 <Thelen> ie car accident deaths
28:38 <MekkisScreen> I never said they didn't
28:43 <Thelen> oh no i just mean in general
28:47 <Thelen> looking at the bigger picture ;)
29:15 <Thelen> my point was going to be, so since it has such a relatively smaller impact, many people are unaware of the impact
29:37 <Thelen> bit like TV
29:50 <Thelen> billions of brainwashed people :D
30:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> the most damaging thing is bordem
30:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> though that is arguable depending what sort of damage you are talking about
31:25 <Thelen> heh being unproductive is worse than boredum
32:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> what do you think happens to people when they're bored?
32:15 <Thelen> what do you think?
33:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> stupid decisions, questioning your actions, queering life
33:14 <Thelen> wuuut?
33:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> getting depressed, doing stupid things
33:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> there are plenty
33:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> people don't just pick up a book when they're bored
33:55 <Thelen> yea but playing games is just putting the problem off
34:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> yup
34:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> currently I'm talking on here and watching AMV Hell 5 because I'm bored
34:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> and cbf playing games (though I intend to)
34:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> though, dysthesia doesn't help that
34:59 <Thelen> Mekkis hah, "I have checked your ticket and it seems our engineer has incorrectly entered your IPv6 configuration. I have assigned this back to our networking team as IPv6 is only configured by our network engineers."
35:01 <Thelen> knew it!
40:08 <MekkisScreen> fun
40:10 <MekkisScreen> ant ETA?
40:12 <MekkisScreen> any*
40:51 <MekkisScreen> I feel unproductive today :S
42:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> there is some fucked up anime out there
45:29 <MekkisScreen> I want to play (or run) QQ again
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54:15 <MekkisScreen> anyone up for it?
54:22 <Brunius> it = ?
54:34 <MekkisScreen> 07:43 < MekkisScreen> I want to play (or run) QQ again
54:35 <MekkisScreen> 07:43 < MekkisScreen> I want to play (or run) QQ again
54:47 <Brunius> Oh god
54:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> have fun MinMaxing
06:31 <Avatar> I don't think minmaxing is that bad
07:21 <MekkisScreen> Spaceshot_tm2: better to minmax than to not play at all
08:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> I beg to differ
08:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> I could spend 2-8hrs better
08:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> not including build time
09:45 <Avatar> yeah QQ was too long
10:06 <Avatar> if I'm playing QQ, I'd rather be playing PFS
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40:10 <Mekkis> Imprisonment
40:23 <Mekkis> it failed its will save
41:24 <Mekkis> it only has +20 to will saves
43:50 <Mekkis> sorry, it's Remi and Ghandi
46:56 <Mekkis> that game lasted two hours
47:01 <Mekkis> a little less
47:30 <Mekkis> [7:29:17 PM] <@Ballig> it's the tarrasque! rarrrr!
47:30 <Mekkis> [7:29:19 PM] <@Ballig> roll initiative
47:30 <Mekkis> [9:15:09 PM] <@Ballig> the tarrasque is imprisoned
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51:24 <Mekkis> that game lasted two hours
51:31 <Mekkis> [7:29:17 PM] <@Ballig> it's the tarrasque! rarrrr!
51:37 <Mekkis> [7:29:19 PM] <@Ballig> roll initiative
51:45 <Mekkis> [9:15:09 PM] <@Ballig> the tarrasque is imprisoned
51:49 <Mekkis> actually less
58:35 <Mekkis> hehe
58:38 <Mekkis> end to strife
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15:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> maybe it was a 6ish start, I dunno
16:59 <MekkisScreen> regardless, the question was not aimed at you, Spaceshot_tm2: you'd rather troll people than play anything in here
17:59 <Brunius> Sounds about right
19:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> right, I'm trolling
19:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you weren't trolling when we were talking about MMOs
19:47 <Thelen> 12 hours
20:01 <MekkisScreen> thanks Thelen 
21:08 <MekkisScreen> so Thelen: would you be interested in throwing a high-level character against some encounters?
21:39 <MekkisScreen> I'm thinking around 11th level
22:06 <MekkisScreen> (maintaining PFS legality)
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23:52 <Mekkis> what?
23:56 <Mekkis> what is it?
23:59 <Mekkis> Brunius, 
28:01 <Ballig> ha cool, the blast template colours transmit incorrectly
28:43 <Avatar> QQ did last a damn long time
28:46 <Brunius> NOICE
28:53 <Avatar> 6 hours for a combat session is too long
29:04 <Mekkis> how so?
29:31 <MekkisScreen> that was partly bacause Ballig fudged HPs
30:04 <Ballig> blue transmits as green, yellow as purple, brown as dark red, green as blue
30:10 <Ballig> it's just a bit trippy
30:20 <Mekkis> hmmm
30:26 <MekkisScreen> Joe did end up winning one session
30:30 <Brunius> How do you say Tarrasque? Tarras-ke, or Tarras-que
30:40 <Avatar> Tarras-que
30:49 <Mekkis> could you show me the code to CABlastTemplate::Parse and CABlastTemplate::Transmit ?
31:02 <Ballig> yeah I see the problem
31:09 <Ballig> it's sending it as RBG instead of RGB
31:16 <Avatar> Tuh-rask
31:18 <Mekkis> that would do it
31:28 <Brunius> Tuh-rask-Q?
31:55 <Mekkis> Ah... End to Strife
32:01 <Mekkis> any idea where canine is?
32:16 <Avatar> as in Tuh-rask-cue? no
32:52 <Ballig> on holidays until jan 3
33:02 <Brunius> Interesting.
33:10 <Mekkis> great
33:16 <Mekkis> so no CoTE until then?
33:22 <Ballig> I'd say so
33:47 <Ballig> ha cones send the colour wrong too
35:27 <MekkisScreen> Ghandi and Heko defeated the Tarrasque
35:46 <MekkisScreen> it was flying too
36:48 <Avatar> how
36:52 <Avatar> did you defeat it
36:59 <Ballig> looks like cones, blasts and masks now work properly and transmit over network
37:09 <Mekkis> that's good
37:19 <Mekkis> means that they should save and load properly too
38:14 <Ballig> the blast and cone didn't
38:55 <Mekkis> what did they do? crash?
39:02 <Ballig> nah just didn't appear
39:43 <Ballig> 65539, why would lines in the save file be starting with that
41:17 <Ballig> do usertypes start that high
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43:16 <Mekkis> yeah
43:17 <Ballig> seems like the problem is going to be a variable being passed by reference
43:25 <Ballig> 65539,65541,2003886956 776218141 0 0 255 4
43:25 <Ballig> 65539,65542,2003886956 776218141 255 146 7 3 4
43:29 <Ballig> those are the two lines not loading
43:33 <Mekkis> yeah
43:38 <Ballig> obviously some variables have become out of scope
43:44 <Mekkis> the 2003886956 is too big
43:51 <Ballig> yeah so is the 776*
44:13 <Mekkis> could you show me the code?
44:20 <Mekkis> (it worked on my codebase)
48:31 <Avatar> the tarrasque is sort of designed to be powergamed against though
48:38 <Avatar> unless you are particularly creative
56:31 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat/Sun 10am (Avatar) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
56:31 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Dec 20 18:47:13 2011
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57:14 <Ballig> Mekkis: what's CAVee
57:23 <Mekkis> you asked that question before :)
57:32 <Ballig> did I
57:33 <Mekkis> it's a proof-of-concept class
57:34 <Ballig> what was the answer
57:38 <Mekkis> two lines
57:42 <Ballig> what concept are you proofing
58:18 <Mekkis> the use of multiple inheritance and late binding
58:29 <Ballig> so I don't need it in the source?
58:33 <Mekkis> (as was later implemented in CABlastTemplate et al)
58:35 <Mekkis> nope
59:06 <Mekkis> you'll need to remove the reference to it in CAItemCreator or whatever that class was
59:34 <Ballig> yeah
00:02 <Mekkis> (generally it's best to pass everything by reference)
00:25 <Mekkis> as passing by value only makes a shallow copy
00:43 <Ballig> yeah
01:02 <Ballig> but it was passing by reference and storing that reference in a member variable
01:13 <Mekkis> it also means you don't need to #include as many files in the header
01:14 <Mekkis> ah
01:15 <Ballig> and when the referenced variable became invalid, it was giving nonsense data
09:07 <Ballig> where's Jaggedloser
09:40 <Avatar> who knows man
09:46 <Avatar> probably on a beach somewhere in hawaii
09:52 <Avatar> sipping a margarita
11:24 <Ballig> do they give margaritas in hawaii
11:27 <Ballig> wouldn't it be something more tropical
11:58 <Brunius> Anyone have any experience with msy?
12:16 <Avatar> I don't know, I don't even drink
12:54 <Brunius> wtf?
12:58 <Brunius> msy computers
13:40 <Brunius> Well, msy technology, technically
13:41 <Avatar> re margaritas
13:45 <Brunius> OH
13:45 <Avatar> yeah I have been to msy, once
13:58 <Brunius> Was it for something on clearance?
14:02 <Avatar> nop
14:06 <Avatar> why, what's happened
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17:06 <Avatar> he won't be back for at least a year or more again
17:09 <Brunius> I'm gonna buy something that's clearance and I'm wondering whether it will have some fatal flaw
17:14 <Ballig> who was he
17:20 <Avatar> apparently he's been here before
17:24 <Brunius> He was in a bunch of channels
17:26 <Brunius> Mekkis?
17:30 <Avatar> yeah I did notice that
17:37 <Brunius> -
17:37 <Brunius> ChuckBrowneyesAFK is [email protected] * ...
17:37 <Brunius> ChuckBrowneyesAFK on #d&d #sex #philosophyphd #random #sydney +#ravers 
17:37 <Brunius> ChuckBrowneyesAFK using irc.austnet.org AustNet
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17:37 <Avatar> a bunch of questionable channels
18:25 <Ballig> they're kind of required to tell you why it's on clearance
18:26 <Thelen> Mekkis ipv6 working?
18:58 <Ballig> usually it's stock they haven't been able to sell
19:35 <Brunius> The description says it's missing some parts, so that's probably it
19:50 <Ballig> what is it
19:52 <Ballig> what parts are missing
20:18 <Avatar> the core parts
20:23 <Brunius> It's a Xbox 360, Console ONLY
20:39 <Avatar> controllers
20:42 <Avatar> maybe a power cable
21:07 <Brunius> Yeah
30:50 <Ballig> Mekkis: am I right that inflict light wounds requires both a melee touch attack and a save?
33:05 <Mekkis> Ballig, correct
33:37 <Mekkis> Thelen, 
33:38 <Mekkis> root@fr:~/nmap-5.51# ping6 ipv6.google.com
33:38 <Mekkis> PING ipv6.google.com(bru01m01-in-x63.1e100.net) 56 data bytes
33:38 <Mekkis> ^C
33:38 <Mekkis> --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics ---
33:38 <Mekkis> 9 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 7999ms
34:18 <Mekkis> root@fr:~/nmap-5.51# traceroute6 ipv6.google.com
34:18 <Mekkis> traceroute to ipv6.google.com (2a00:1450:400c:c01::63), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
34:18 <Mekkis>  1  2a02:2658:101b::5 (2a02:2658:101b::5)  0.044 ms  0.020 ms  0.017 ms
34:18 <Mekkis>  2  * * *
34:26 <Mekkis> (everything else is stars)
38:20 <Mekkis> on the plus side, outside can see the host
38:24 <Mekkis> so it's a forwarding issue
38:26 <Mekkis> brb dinner
38:32 <Avatar> mekkis did you implement conditions yet
46:22 <Ballig> yeah they save and load now
47:34 <Thelen> Mekkis yea the host works but not the vps
48:13 <Thelen> so probably all the stuff we did broke it
48:16 <Thelen> or it was broken alread y:/
54:26 <Brunius> Can we live a life of peace and happiness?
54:31 <Brunius> I don't think so
57:39 <tristen> NO PEACE AND HAPPINESS FOR YOU
59:05 <tristen> gah avatar i haven't missed anything?
59:23 <tristen> brunius: i was just being the peace and happiness nazi
59:53 <Avatar> do you see jaggedsoul
00:02 <tristen> noes
00:31 <tristen> do we need him? thelen could play instead?
00:45 <tristen> or not fair?
00:50 <Avatar> it'd be shit to start playing right at the end of a scenario
00:55 <Avatar> especially for we be goblins
01:04 <tristen> yep fair nuff
01:28 <tristen> are there ongoing gobbo missions for those chars?
01:39 <Avatar> nope
01:41 <tristen> in which case...
01:43 <tristen> ok
01:49 <tristen> shame that - they're good characters
02:07 <tristen> esp. chuffy
02:13 <tristen> he had some awesome potential
09:59 <Avatar> mekkis are you about
11:33 <Brunius> All my tracerts showing staaars
11:36 <Brunius> The day
11:38 <Brunius> The routers
11:39 <Brunius> died
11:45 <Brunius> Fuck I'm tired
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46:18 <Avatar> where did mekkis go
46:37 <Avatar> dinner an hour and a bit ago
50:36 <Ballig> think I just fixed the line/margin issue
52:26 <Avatar> do you have to change the columns/rows each time you change the box size still
52:53 <Ballig> I haven't worked on that yet
53:03 <Ballig> I've added cones, blasts, blackouts and fixed the line/margin bug
53:05 <Ballig> that's what I've done so far
53:28 <Avatar> that and the uh movable backgrounds are the highest priority changes on my list
04:57 <Mekkis> now I'm nere
05:14 <Avatar> is it just 10gp to purchase a party member's spell?
05:19 <Avatar> 1st level
05:21 <Mekkis> first level
05:23 <Avatar> or are there rolls to be made, or what?
05:24 <Mekkis> if you have their concent
05:26 <Mekkis> consent
05:31 <Avatar> yeah, is that all?
05:33 <Mekkis> and you need to make a spellcraft check
05:40 <Avatar> DC?
05:42 <Mekkis> (hint: you ARE allowed to take 10 on it)
05:43 <Mekkis> not sure
06:00 <Avatar> strange you can take 10 for this but not for dayjob rolls
06:13 <Avatar> it's because you can do it ingame isn't it
06:15 <Mekkis> dayjob rolls are "special"
06:33 <Avatar> where are the rules about doing this
06:33 <Mekkis> Thelen, what does ip6tables -L have in the FORWARD chain?
06:40 <Mekkis> somewhere in the core rulebook
06:42 <Mekkis> chapter 10 iirc
08:11 <Avatar> 15+spell level
08:31 <Avatar> and I've got +9 to spellcraft
08:36 <Avatar> so I'll take 10 :)
09:59 <Mekkis> Ballig, I'll work on movable backgrounds after next release, I imagine
10:07 <Mekkis> (if/when I get the source)
12:13 <diebot> ave h0m0! aetas/sexus/locus?
13:49 <Avatar> when are conditions getting put in
14:49 <Avatar> what do wizards normally buy in PFS? I have no idea what to get without armour or weapons
14:53 <Avatar> wands
15:04 <Avatar> how do I charge up this bonded wand without craft wand
15:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can't
15:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> maybe you pay someone to do though
15:58 <Avatar> don't think that's right
19:48 <Ballig> wands and scrolls
20:01 <Ballig> grab a scroll or two of any spell you think "that could come in handy... sometimes"
20:03 <Ballig> like Interrogation
20:59 <Avatar> wands are still too expensive to buy
21:04 <Avatar> I have the money but not the fame
21:28 <Avatar> I still don't have a way to heal, so there goes 2 of my 6 prestige
30:54 <Brunius> Yeah fame is kind of annoying
31:13 <Brunius> Get a collapsible plank
31:20 <Brunius> It's like a 10 foot pole only a plank
32:40 <Mekkis> Avatar, when I get around to it
32:55 <Mekkis> Avatar, as a wizard, you get around it
33:37 <Mekkis> when you reach level 3? 5?, you're treated as having craft wand for the purposes of enchanting your bonded item
34:36 <Mekkis> a wizard should buy at least one pearl of power
34:40 <Mekkis> and then look at rods
34:48 <Mekkis> lesser metamagic bouncing is good
37:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea, you count as having the create magical item of the item type
38:05 <Avatar> er
38:15 <Avatar> so I can't use my bonded wand until level 5?
38:26 <Mekkis> what level can you take craft wand?
38:30 <Avatar> 5th
38:34 <Mekkis> yes
38:41 <Mekkis> except for the "bonded item" trick
38:48 <Mekkis> you know, to cast one spell in your spellbook
39:12 <Avatar> don't know what that is, looking up bonded wand now
39:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> bonded item trick is the best
40:09 <Avatar> effectively a pearl of power for any level
40:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> sweet when playing non PFS with words of magic
40:19 <Mekkis> no
40:23 <Mekkis> better than a pearl
40:34 <Mekkis> a pearl gets back a prepared expended spell
40:36 <Avatar> pearl requires you to have it prepared, bonded wand doesn't
40:47 <Avatar> I should remember that one
41:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis, you can't use bonded on your opposite school/s can you
41:10 <Mekkis> not sure
41:30 <Avatar> I'd say you could, if you had it prepared in another slot as well
41:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> opposed schools take 2 slots
41:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> not 1
41:57 <Avatar> right
42:02 <Avatar> 1 on the bonded item, 1 in a slot
42:26 <Mekkis> and Thelen, any chance you can make the host machine respond to pings?
42:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can't prepare an opposed school spell without it taking 2 slots
42:54 <Mekkis> now there's no reason to not ban evocation!
42:55 <Avatar> does that mean you can't prepare it, or you can't use it without it taking 2 slots though
43:21 <Avatar> what is this about banning evocation :(
43:23 <Mekkis> if you prepare it, it takes up two slots
43:47 <Avatar> okay so 
43:47 <Mekkis> (in 3.5, you wouldn't ban evocation because of Contingency)
43:56 <Avatar> what if you had an otherwise empty slot
44:07 <Avatar> no that wouldn't work would it
44:09 <Mekkis> what does it say in the rulebook?
44:11 <Avatar> like you're really pushing it at that point
44:19 <Avatar> I don't care
45:12 <Avatar> pearl of power is 1000gp, can't buy that with 6 fame
45:29 <Avatar> 500gp really doesn't buy you anything with decent power
45:31 <Avatar> scrolls, that's it
45:38 <Mekkis> fireball
45:50 <Mekkis> (scroll of)
45:53 <Avatar> I'm not burning half my money on a fireball scroll
46:32 <Mekkis> do any of your chronicle sheets have cloak of resistance on them?
47:00 <Avatar> Buck's would, but I don't care for cloaks of resistance
47:07 <Mekkis> you should
47:10 <Mekkis> they save your life
47:16 <Avatar> +1
47:26 <Avatar> I'm not a big fan of +1's
47:36 <Mekkis> they add up
47:49 <Avatar> hardly
47:54 <Avatar> there's nothing to add it to
48:06 <Mekkis> 1d20
48:08 <Mekkis> :)
48:18 <Avatar> yeah it's still just 1d20+1
48:21 <Mekkis> you wouldn't have that disease if you had the +1
48:27 <Avatar> really
48:30 <Avatar> is that what I failed by
48:35 <Mekkis> what did you roll?
48:48 <Avatar> I don't know, I didn't know what the DC was or that I was diseased at the time
48:54 <Avatar> you just said make the rolls
48:55 <Mekkis> yeah
49:06 <Mekkis> ah
49:15 <Mekkis> I know why QQ was taking so long
49:30 <Mekkis> because Ballig kept fudging monsters HP
49:34 <Mekkis> and abilities
49:46 <Avatar> how do you know that
52:25 <Mekkis> [2:21:12 AM] <@Ballig> well, either we can go for another hour or so while I keep fudging rolls and making up rules to bust Mekkis'
52:25 <Mekkis> balls, or we can call it here (I'm happy to concede)
53:22 <Mekkis> [2:23:22 AM] <@Ballig> he had about 350 out of 650hp remaining
53:22 <Mekkis> [2:23:37 AM] <+Nameless_one> how close to death was the fiend?
53:22 <Mekkis> [2:23:54 AM] <+Savant> well atleast i had enough spell to finish that one off
53:22 <Mekkis> [2:24:02 AM] <@Ballig> he was at about 200 out of 250 when I started to ignore damage to him
58:45 <Mekkis> note the times
00:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> so basically he was cheating, but he didn't want to just instagib you
01:18 <Mekkis> oh, he was exploiting my character's weakness
01:48 <Mekkis> (his inability to do large amounts of damage)
01:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> which was? fudging dice rolls and making up shit?
02:49 <Mekkis> Nameless One isn't very good at doing damage
02:54 <Mekkis> he's very good at not dying
04:19 <Mekkis> (AC 54, 513 HP, fast healing 5 and a lot of immunities/resistances/DR
04:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> he's the lich with like 50odd cha wasn't he?
04:47 <Mekkis> yeah
04:49 <Mekkis> dry lich
05:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> via the PrC?
05:09 <Mekkis> ja
07:19 <Avatar> did sachiru ever play QQ
07:27 <Mekkis> don't think so
07:38 <Avatar> it's like the perfect campaign for him
07:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> I still think the best QQ (at least that I saw) was when mavor played
07:52 <Mekkis> heh
07:55 <Mekkis> which one
07:58 <Mekkis> he played in two
08:03 <Avatar> the time stop one
08:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar; not really, he's confined to 3 books max, he takes 3 books max just for race
08:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> not time stop
08:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> the foresight
08:26 <Mekkis> the "stop metagaming" one?
08:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> future sight*
09:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> I can future sight, "the dragon will charge at you", I wall of blah (don't remember which wall), the dragon flies over the wall and munches you
09:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> that one was good
10:41 <Avatar> haha
10:51 <Thelen> WHATTTTT
10:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> then he bitched for ages
11:07 <Avatar> that's pretty much exactly what happened
11:28 <Thelen> Mekkis uhm no idea tell me how and i'll do it
11:46 <Mekkis> Thelen, ip6tables -L to start with
11:54 <Mekkis> (what's the output)
14:01 <Mekkis> (what firewall are you using? I have been assuming iptables/ip6tables)
17:34 <Mekkis> also: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/forwarding
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29:15 <Mekkis> Thelen: (http://dnd.pastebay.com is a nice place to put output)
30:51 <Mort> oha man
30:53 <Mort> Im bushed
30:56 <Mekkis> moin mopin 
31:11 <Mekkis> Been hanging out with George?
33:59 <Mekkis> Avatar, Added CMD :S
34:01 <Mekkis> http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=1
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