// #d&d — 2011-12-21
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00:07:11 <Avatar> legend of grimrock looks good
00:09:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> wha?
00:09:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> what is it?
00:33:56 <Avatar> you would know
00:33:58 <Avatar> there is like 30 of them
00:34:15 <Avatar> fortunately they are all super short which is great for low attention spanned people like moi
00:34:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea might of done them
00:34:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> do recall a bit
00:34:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> though I got this game practically when it came out
00:34:46 <Avatar> dungeon defenders has an agonisingly long tutorial
00:35:00 <Avatar> there is an option for a 'quick tutorial' that I stupidly didn't click on
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06:00:07 <Ballig> Mekkis: that was only that one game
08:13:48 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Sat/Sun 10am (Avatar) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
08:13:48 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Tue Dec 20 18:47:13 2011
08:14:19 <Mekkis> Ballig, it was actually 2/4 of the games (not including the FFAs)
08:29:08 <Brunius> two quarters?
08:29:14 <Avatar> 2 out of 4
08:29:20 <Avatar> they were all still way too long
08:29:22 <Brunius> Why not just say 1/2?
08:30:17 <Avatar> because he wasn't trying to say one half, he was trying to say 2 out of 4
08:30:35 <Avatar> wasn't trying to say one half or two quarters
08:31:58 <Thelen> Mekkis no idea firewall, shouldn't be any
08:32:38 <Mekkis> Thelen, did you tun those commands?
08:32:49 <Thelen> not yet about to
08:33:06 <Thelen> ah cool they capture all DNS for that :D
08:33:11 <Thelen> i figured out how to do that years ago
08:35:47 <Thelen> im guessing it isn't forwarding properly from venet0
08:36:08 <Mekkis> what's it saying?
08:36:16 <Mekkis> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/forwarding
08:36:19 <Thelen> when?
08:36:20 <Thelen> i pasted
08:36:27 <Mekkis> where?
08:36:54 <Thelen> dnd.pastebay
08:38:51 <Mekkis> on the plus side, you're responding to pings now
08:39:03 <Thelen> yea ipv6 on host works
08:39:10 <Thelen> did i say that?
08:39:15 <Mekkis> yeah
08:39:23 <Mekkis> it worked before, but you weren't responding to pings
08:39:25 <Mekkis> now you are
08:39:29 <Mekkis> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/eth0/forwarding
08:39:34 <Mekkis> cat /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/venet0/forwarding
08:39:37 <Thelen> ah
08:39:48 <Thelen> both 1
08:48:11 <Mekkis> what about /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/all/forwarding
08:49:35 <Brunius> Have you tried turning it off and then on again?
08:50:03 <Thelen> 1
08:50:07 <Thelen> yea Brunius
09:14:38 <***> Buffer Playback...
09:14:38 <***> Playback Complete.
09:20:11 <Thelen> ah
09:29:12 <Mekkis> "if I assign an IPv6 address to a VE that is in the same prefix as the physical LAN it won't talk to the physical LAN. There is probably a fix for that, but I decided to have the VE's on a separate prefix, anyway."
09:29:51 <Mekkis> how large a prefix does the host get?
09:30:36 <Mekkis> (if you've got a /48, can you assign me 2a02:2658:101b:1::2 ?)
09:31:02 <Mekkis> (as in, run venet0 on 2a02:2658:101b:1::/64)
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09:45:35 <Avatar> dammit ballig, stop working
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09:59:56 <`Evergreen`> Hello :)
10:00:16 <Brunius> Sup
10:00:22 <Brunius> These jokers thought you wouldn't be back
10:00:44 <Avatar> that was chuck
10:01:26 <`Evergreen`> Well, I like to prove others wrong. This has played into my hand delightfully.
10:01:28 <`Evergreen`> http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=331
10:01:57 <`Evergreen`> I'm still taking it, but Acadamae Graduate is hard to RP
10:02:09 <Avatar> looks done
10:02:14 <Avatar> that's a very well done character sheet
10:02:18 <`Evergreen`> ty
10:02:27 <`Evergreen`> Can you check down by the equipment?
10:02:31 <Avatar> I guess you had a good template to work from
10:02:34 <Avatar> :o)
10:02:51 <`Evergreen`> Actually, I'm just into making things precise. I changed the template where necessary.
10:03:05 <`Evergreen`> The template isn't bad, persay. It just looks gruesome
10:03:21 <Avatar> what am I looking for in the equipment
10:03:44 <`Evergreen`> Is there anything I'm missing, like, do I need to account for rations, etc?
10:04:15 <`Evergreen`> Also
10:04:17 <Avatar> don't think so
10:04:19 <`Evergreen`> the money that's left over
10:04:31 <`Evergreen`> because, I can't buy and carry 150g worth of stuff
10:04:39 <Avatar> you keep the money
10:04:50 <`Evergreen`> Oh, good. Just checking. My GM would make me spend it down to 5g or less.
10:04:52 <Avatar> you could buy nothing and have 150gp if you wanted
10:05:24 <MekkisScreen> best to have a weapon
10:05:32 <MekkisScreen> (armour is optional...)
10:05:32 <Avatar> here's something that's never occured to me
10:05:36 <Avatar> wizards need to buy a spellbook
10:05:45 <MekkisScreen> or two!
10:05:50 <Avatar> yeah
10:06:03 <Avatar> I don't think any of our wizards have a spellbook
10:06:04 <MekkisScreen> Mytiazair has three
10:06:14 <MekkisScreen> and that's just for holding his spells
10:06:20 <Avatar> I can't get myself to a light load
10:06:20 <MekkisScreen> he has another one for travelling
10:06:28 <MekkisScreen> get a horse :)
10:06:32 <Avatar> at least not without dropping items I want to keep
10:06:33 <MekkisScreen> or riding dog
10:06:48 <Avatar> riding dog is for small character isn't it
10:06:53 <MekkisScreen> ja
10:06:54 <Avatar> characters*
10:06:54 <`Evergreen`> ooh, forgot about the spellbook
10:06:55 <`Evergreen`> lame
10:06:57 <MekkisScreen> yeah
10:07:01 <MekkisScreen> there's no forwwarding
10:07:03 <MekkisScreen> but play one
10:07:03 <`Evergreen`> And then there's the copies and such
10:07:04 <Avatar> I was already 1lb over
10:07:10 <Avatar> but I was going to fix that by throwing alchemical fire at someone
10:07:13 <Avatar> then I'd be at a light load
10:07:17 <`Evergreen`> I was too, that's why I didn't take a free club
10:07:41 <Avatar> I'm inclined to ditch my rope
10:07:45 <`Evergreen`> And today is the first day of hannukah, too
10:07:47 <MekkisScreen> generalist wizard with a colossal quarterstaff
10:07:54 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: replace with silk?
10:07:57 <`Evergreen`> I ditched my rope before I gave up the free club
10:07:59 <Avatar> my rope IS silk
10:08:09 <MekkisScreen> ditch the bedroll
10:08:22 <Avatar> the bedroll does seem fairly useless doesn't it
10:08:29 <`Evergreen`> Hmm..
10:08:38 <MekkisScreen> I just use canvas and a quarterstaff
10:09:25 <Avatar> bedroll has no description either
10:15:39 <`Evergreen`> Ok, that's better
10:15:42 <`Evergreen`> be gond bedroll
10:15:46 <`Evergreen`> hello shitty club
10:15:53 <`Evergreen`> lol 1d4-2 damage
10:16:04 <Brunius> Yeah!
10:17:39 <`Evergreen`> My PFS number, what is the y after it for? Character number?
10:18:26 <Brunius> Yeah
10:18:40 <`Evergreen`> Is this "1" as its the first?
10:18:49 <Brunius> I've got four characters, labeled 22870-1, 22870-2, 22870-3 etc
10:18:52 <Brunius> Yeah
10:19:03 <Brunius> You'll need to register it on the paizo site
10:19:20 <`Evergreen`> hmm...
10:21:04 <`Evergreen`> Is everything on this form really necessary?
10:22:40 <Brunius> Nope
10:22:46 <Brunius> Chuck in a name and they're happy
10:22:56 <Brunius> I usually put in race, too
10:23:22 <Avatar> yeah just the name, the rest is garbage
10:23:29 <Avatar> I filled it out because I was bored
10:23:39 <Avatar> the paizo site is a disaster if you ask me
10:24:38 <`Evergreen`> I was going to fill in the "Special Abilities" section with, "Throat like a well."
10:24:39 <`Evergreen`> lol
10:25:25 <Avatar> yeah do it
10:25:39 <`Evergreen`> too late
10:25:42 <`Evergreen`> I'd have to update
10:25:45 <`Evergreen`> and I'm not down
10:26:11 <`Evergreen`> I did, however, upload my +club revision of the character sheet
10:26:18 <`Evergreen`> So, what's the next step?
10:27:47 <Avatar> confirm your availability
10:27:58 <Avatar> and show up to games
10:28:17 <Avatar> dates/times are in the topic
10:29:14 <Brunius> I wonder how possible it is to program CA for an xbox
10:29:32 <MekkisScreen> sure
10:29:43 <MekkisScreen> start by installing linux on the xbox
10:29:48 <MekkisScreen> then it's easy
10:30:34 <Avatar> doesn't that mean it's easy to program it on android
10:30:55 <Brunius> Can I get the default OS back, Mekkis?
10:30:59 <Brunius> Dual boot?
10:31:09 <MekkisScreen> !recentsheets
10:31:09 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2011-12-21 01:16 280 Mellon
10:31:10 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2011-12-21 01:15 331 Harold
10:31:10 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2011-12-20 04:25 327 Hitomi
10:31:10 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2011-12-19 16:06 308 Buck
10:31:10 <diebot> MekkisScreen, 2011-12-18 05:02 328 Tasiv
10:31:57 <MekkisScreen> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_Linux
10:33:20 <Brunius> I should really be more specific. I meant the 360
10:33:31 <Brunius> Know of any possibilities for that?
10:33:36 <MekkisScreen> yes, you shouldn't have got a 360
10:33:47 <Brunius> I don't have one.
10:33:58 <MekkisScreen> then what are you talking about?\
10:33:59 <`Evergreen`> The times. Are they Saturday AND Sunday, or Saturday OR Sunday
10:34:23 <MekkisScreen> well, probably not THIS sunday :S
10:35:15 <`Evergreen`> Why?
10:35:26 <MekkisScreen> christmas
10:35:39 <`Evergreen`> Oh, yes, how could I forget.
10:35:49 <`Evergreen`> The following Sunday is new years
10:35:56 <`Evergreen`> Also
10:36:15 <`Evergreen`> <--- Not available Sunday at 10AM AEST
10:36:28 <`Evergreen`> Which is why i ask. Is it the same group both days?
10:37:34 <`Evergreen`> Is it either Saturday or Sunday, depending on your PF group, or is it a single group that sometimes runs on Sundays, sometimes on Sat, or on both days?
10:38:23 <Avatar> it's both days, if people are here
10:38:34 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Sat & Sun 10am (Avatar) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
10:38:49 <`Evergreen`> Sadness
10:38:57 <Avatar> what's wrong
10:38:59 <`Evergreen`> oh wait
10:39:02 <`Evergreen`> maybe not
10:39:08 <`Evergreen`> I forgot that you're in the future
10:39:08 <Avatar> goodness, in fact
10:39:12 <Avatar> yeah
10:39:14 <Avatar> think about it
10:39:24 <`Evergreen`> its goodness, and not so goodness
10:39:35 <Avatar> oh it's goodness
10:40:13 <Avatar> wow, my kindle ran out of battery
10:40:28 <`Evergreen`> Friday and Saturday I'd like to be cruising boys. I suppose if its a 4 or 5 hour game, that I'll still have time.
10:40:33 <`Evergreen`> Okay, I think this is doable.
10:40:57 <Avatar> cruising boys?
10:41:01 <Avatar> what does that mean
10:41:21 <Avatar> for you, games start at 6pm
10:41:25 <`Evergreen`> You know, hitting the clubs/bars, having some beers
10:41:30 <Brunius> Picking one up today, Mekkis
10:41:38 <Avatar> so you can leave at 10-11pm yeah?
10:42:03 <Avatar> longer sessions go for about 6 hours in the interests of finishing up the scenario, but we can npc you if need be
10:42:32 <`Evergreen`> I dont think it'll be a problem
10:42:44 <`Evergreen`> The game I play in the flesh on Sundays is 5-10
10:42:51 <Avatar> download CA and skype if you don't already have them
10:43:01 <`Evergreen`> and I played WoW during Molten Core.
10:43:07 <`Evergreen`> CA?
10:43:29 <Avatar> combat assistant
10:43:35 <Avatar> downloads section of the site
10:45:11 <`Evergreen`> Also, Skype?
10:45:43 <`Evergreen`> Theres talking involved? I dont have a mic.
10:48:44 <Thelen> Mekkis hmmm
10:49:15 <Thelen> its /64
10:49:21 <Thelen> im not sure how to do that, i'll try
10:54:10 <MekkisScreen> Thelen: you're only given a /64?
10:54:36 <MekkisScreen> Brunius: why>!
10:54:43 <Thelen> yea?
10:54:47 <Thelen> doesn't it say that?
10:55:25 <MekkisScreen> not necessarily
10:55:34 <Thelen> Your IPv6 subnet is 2a02:2658:101b::/64. 2a02:2658:101b::1 i
10:55:44 <MekkisScreen> just because you're only using a /64 doesn't mean you're only given a /64
10:55:53 <Thelen> s your gateway
10:56:05 <MekkisScreen> hmmm
10:56:13 <MekkisScreen> that's pretty clear though
10:58:52 <Thelen> you have :1::2 now
10:59:29 <MekkisScreen> I need to restart, right?
10:59:38 <Thelen> not sure should apply straight away
11:03:41 <MekkisScreen> what's the IPv6 address on the venet interface
11:04:05 <MekkisScreen> (I assume that 2a02:2658:101b::5 is on eth0) ?
11:04:06 <Thelen> eth0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500 qlen 1000
11:04:06 <Thelen> inet6 2a02:2658:101b::5/64 scope global
11:04:06 <Thelen> valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
11:04:06 <Thelen> inet6 fe80::7a2b:cbff:fe5e:d568/64 scope link
11:04:06 <Thelen> 4: venet0: <BROADCAST,POINTOPOINT,NOARP,UP,LOWER_UP> mtu 1500
11:04:06 <Thelen> inet6 fe80::1/128 scope link
11:04:25 <MekkisScreen> could you add one?
11:04:31 <Thelen> probably
11:04:47 <MekkisScreen> ip -6 addr add 2a02:2658:101b:1::5/64 dev venet0
11:05:20 <Thelen> done
11:10:00 <MekkisScreen> ip -6 neigh add proxy 2a02:2658:101b:1::2 dev eth0
11:10:35 <Thelen> done
11:12:01 <Avatar> I want to have a new char sheet template or two up by tonight
11:12:02 <MekkisScreen> what's the output of:
11:12:05 <MekkisScreen> sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only
11:12:18 <Thelen> =0
11:12:22 <Thelen> that might be the problem :D
11:12:29 <MekkisScreen> sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only 1
11:12:29 <MekkisScreen> :S
11:12:41 <Thelen> 06 vz]# sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only 1
11:12:41 <Thelen> net.ipv6.bindv6only = 0
11:12:41 <Thelen> error: "1" is an unknown key
11:14:08 <MekkisScreen> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only
11:14:32 <Thelen> done, =1 now :D
11:16:28 <`Evergreen`> Good Luck, Avatar.
11:17:02 <MekkisScreen> what's the output of ip -6 neigh ?
11:17:14 <Thelen> 2a02:2658:101b::1 dev eth0 lladdr c4:71:fe:b3:33:da router REACHABLE
11:17:24 <Avatar> don't need luck
11:17:48 <`Evergreen`> Its14d-snozberry, delta delta marmaloo
11:18:23 <`Evergreen`> Did you guys see the weather yet today?
11:18:45 <`Evergreen`> I can't believe, 75% chance of Dingos again today.
11:19:32 <MekkisScreen> ip -6 neigh add proxy 2a02:2658:101b::5 dev eth0
11:19:42 <Thelen> done
11:22:38 <MekkisScreen> what doe ip -6 neigh show now?
11:22:47 <Thelen> 2a02:2658:101b::1 dev eth0 lladdr c4:71:fe:b3:33:da router STALE
11:28:19 <`Evergreen`> A lady do carry a handbag at night. there's no getting around that.
11:40:49 <MekkisScreen> Thelen: any chance you could run:
11:40:53 <MekkisScreen> tcpdump -i eth0 -v ip6
11:41:04 <Thelen> command not found
11:41:04 <Thelen> :/
11:41:47 <MekkisScreen> sysctl -w net.ipv6.conf.all.proxy_ndp=1
11:43:15 <MekkisScreen> ip -6 neigh add proxy 2a02:2658:101b::5 dev eth0
11:43:35 <Thelen> done and done
11:43:55 <MekkisScreen> ip -6 neigh add proxy 2a02:2658:101b::5 dev eth0
11:44:08 <Thelen> done
11:44:09 <MekkisScreen> root@fr:~# ping6 ipv6.google.com
11:44:10 <MekkisScreen> PING ipv6.google.com(bru01m01-in-x68.1e100.net) 56 data bytes
11:44:10 <MekkisScreen> 64 bytes from bru01m01-in-x68.1e100.net: icmp_seq=1 ttl=53 time=10.6 ms
11:44:10 <MekkisScreen> 64 bytes from bru01m01-in-x68.1e100.net: icmp_seq=2 ttl=53 time=10.6 ms
11:44:10 <MekkisScreen> ^C
11:44:12 <MekkisScreen> --- ipv6.google.com ping statistics ---
11:44:14 <MekkisScreen> 2 packets transmitted, 2 received, 0% packet loss, time 1001ms
11:44:18 <MekkisScreen> rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 10.615/10.619/10.623/0.004 ms
11:44:19 <MekkisScreen> :))
11:44:22 <MekkisScreen> thanks!
11:44:22 <Thelen> :D:D:D:
11:44:31 <Thelen> so its working finally?
11:44:45 <MekkisScreen> well, I can ping google
11:45:03 <Thelen> aye
11:45:08 <Thelen> so what did we need to do :D
11:45:38 <MekkisScreen> and I can ssh into it
11:45:42 <MekkisScreen> so yeah, it's working now
11:45:46 <Thelen> awesomeness
11:45:46 <MekkisScreen> thanks
11:45:53 <Thelen> what did we do to get it working?
11:46:40 <MekkisScreen> it was the net.ipv6.conf.all.proxy_ndp=1 and the ip -6 neigh add proxy bit
11:46:48 <MekkisScreen> (as well as the setting forwarding)
11:47:30 <Thelen> ok
11:47:32 <Thelen> setting forwarding?
11:47:39 <MekkisScreen> (I'm used to deploying IPv6 over a physical network, with NDP working so that isn't needed)
11:47:43 <Thelen> ah
11:47:55 <Thelen> yea they said NDP was off on their routers i think
11:48:00 <MekkisScreen> /proc/sys/net/ipv6/conf/default/forwarding
11:48:09 <MekkisScreen> NDP doesn't work with OpenVZ regardless
11:48:21 <Thelen> ah
11:48:29 <`Evergreen`> Oh, Avatar. If you're working on templates, may I make a suggestion?
11:49:08 <`Evergreen`> Try Notepad Plus. It's free and really much easier to use than notepad, etc. Lots of great features
11:50:09 <`Evergreen`> http://notepad-plus-plus.org/
11:51:19 <MekkisScreen> I'm trying to integrate http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler to output to a template
11:51:45 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: given a list of character attributes, could you programatically insert them into a template?
12:04:51 <`Evergreen`> I think that everyone should at some point watch "Paris is Burning". It will change your life for the better.
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12:13:05 <`Evergreen`> It teaches you things like, "If I'm a black queen, and you're a black queen, we can't call each other black queens, because we're both black queens. That's not a read, that's just a fact."
12:15:13 <Avatar> I use notepad++
12:15:44 <Avatar> Mekkis: not sure what you mean
12:16:06 <Avatar> `Evergreen`: how does notepad++ make a template better
12:16:54 <Avatar> for the record, feedback on templates is strongly encouraged
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12:17:03 <`Evergreen`> It doesnt make a template better
12:17:08 <Avatar> ugh what's jaggedsoul's story
12:17:09 <`Evergreen`> it makes it easier to edit your template
12:17:19 <Avatar> how
12:18:23 <`Evergreen`> Because you can split the screen, can have tabbed use of multiple .txt files. It has a lot more features than regular notepad, and I think its more user friendly overall.
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12:19:06 <Avatar> but I mean, in creating a template, what should I do in notepad++ that I can't do in notepad
12:19:11 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul: where were you last night
12:19:31 <`Evergreen`> Oh, nothing.
12:19:46 <Jaggedsoul> huh?
12:19:55 <Avatar> you said you'd be available for a game on tuesday night
12:19:57 <Avatar> last night
12:20:03 <Avatar> tristen and ballig were here to play but you didn't show
12:20:16 <Jaggedsoul> yeah, but there was no confirmation
12:20:27 <Avatar> you weren't here to be confirmed to
12:20:31 <Avatar> how else are we meant to tell you
12:20:48 <Jaggedsoul> sorry
12:21:04 <Jaggedsoul> it's been a busy week
12:21:19 <Avatar> when are you available next
12:21:32 <Jaggedsoul> sun morning
12:21:48 <Avatar> tristen won't be here until uh
12:22:01 <Avatar> he's leaving 24th-28th
12:22:07 <Avatar> when are you available outside of those dates
12:22:36 <MekkisScreen> so, do we want to do something between christmas and new years?
12:22:43 <MekkisScreen> (maybe CoED!)
12:22:45 <Avatar> hell yes
12:22:49 <Avatar> what is CoED
12:22:57 <MekkisScreen> Cult of the Ebon Destroyers
12:23:05 <Avatar> is that another sanctioned module
12:23:14 <MekkisScreen> arficically level your PFS characters to level 8, and I'll run it
12:23:16 <MekkisScreen> yeah
12:23:19 <Jaggedsoul> it's next year for me then
12:23:26 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul: what date
12:23:36 <`Evergreen`> Hmm...
12:23:58 <Jaggedsoul> sun or mon morning
12:24:02 <MekkisScreen> it's not just "another" sanctioned module
12:24:11 <MekkisScreen> it's a "killer matt" sanctioned module!
12:24:17 <Avatar> 1st or 2nd of jan?
12:24:24 <Jaggedsoul> yep
12:24:31 <Avatar> what modules did killer matt write that we've played
12:24:41 <Avatar> you mention his name a lot but I don't think I know any of his scenarios
12:25:16 <Avatar> I'm not really willing to play a scenario or module that is written by killer writers
12:25:35 <`Evergreen`> lol, from a moral standpoint, I also disagree
12:25:37 <Avatar> pregens are better since they don't involve the death of your proper character, but it's still a waste of time
12:25:42 <`Evergreen`> murderers make bad mods
12:26:03 <`Evergreen`> Oh, its a real thing
12:26:07 <Avatar> it's worse on a sanctioned module which will take a minimum of 2 full days
12:26:17 <`Evergreen`> Make a toon that can't be killed
12:26:32 <Avatar> yeah I say pregens, but I mean a character
12:26:42 <Avatar> characters in sanctioned modules don't affect your real characters
12:26:48 <Avatar> the exp and prestige gets carried over, and that's it
12:26:50 <Jaggedsoul> 1st or 2nd Jan will be fine
12:26:53 <Avatar> so it's okay if you die
12:27:27 <Avatar> ok, come in on those days
12:27:34 <Avatar> is there another way to contact you if you're not on IRC
12:27:54 <`Evergreen`> My dog is so smart
12:28:02 <Avatar> email I guess
12:28:19 <`Evergreen`> he was starting to act like he was going to puke, and with very little fight went out the back door to do his barfing in the garden.
12:29:50 <Avatar> dogs rule
12:30:27 <`Evergreen`> yes
12:30:30 <`Evergreen`> but dingos are the devil
12:32:31 <Jaggedsoul> email
12:32:50 <Jaggedsoul> or fb
12:33:48 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: as far as I'm aware, Killer Matt only wrote CoED and Wrath of the Accursed
12:34:06 <Jaggedsoul> I can play for maybe 2-3 hrs on weekdays
12:34:12 <MekkisScreen> (Wrath of the Accursed is 7-11, and Myra wasn't very happy about it)
12:35:07 <Jaggedsoul> 9-11am my time
12:48:23 <Avatar> we need 1 hour to finish we be goblins
12:48:30 <Avatar> can you be here before the 24th to finish that
13:01:57 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: I can get something like http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/extraction.txt out of http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=1
13:02:19 <MekkisScreen> can you make use of it?
13:12:03 <Avatar> wouldn't know where to start
13:12:08 <Avatar> I don't know how to make something read something else
13:12:52 <Avatar> that's the kind of thing I'd be able to help you do
13:17:07 <Jaggedsoul> <Avatar>: can you be here before the 24th to finish that? - what time?
13:18:50 <Avatar> 7pm?
13:19:08 <Jaggedsoul> 7pm my time?
13:19:12 <Avatar> our time
13:19:32 <Jaggedsoul> 10pm, I'm already at work
13:19:42 <Avatar> that's 3pm your time
13:19:50 <Jaggedsoul> ah I forgot
13:19:55 <Jaggedsoul> yeah, sure can
13:20:08 <Jaggedsoul> so long as it's one hour
13:20:13 <Avatar> tonight or tomorrow?
13:20:26 <Jaggedsoul> tomorrow
13:20:28 <Avatar> yeah ballig doesn't want to play long either
13:20:34 <Avatar> on a weeknight
13:20:57 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Thurs 22nd 7pm, Sat & Sun 10am (Avatar) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
13:24:52 <Jaggedsoul> tomorrow 3pm my time ok?
13:34:08 <Avatar> yeah, that's tomorrow the 22nd
13:34:17 <Avatar> you're 4 hours behind us aren't you
13:34:31 <Avatar> 2.34pm here now
13:34:43 <Avatar> er, sorry, 4pm for you
13:48:05 <Jaggedsoul> no it's 3hours
13:48:26 <Jaggedsoul> so 4pm
13:48:28 <Jaggedsoul> ok
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14:35:35 <MekkisScreen> !findchar mellon
14:35:37 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: mellon, number:
14:35:42 <MekkisScreen> !findchar Mellon
14:35:42 <diebot> MekkisScreen, Character: Mellon, number: 280
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15:01:13 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: this is what I've done so far: is the skills section good?
15:01:24 <MekkisScreen> http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/extraction.txt
15:09:45 <Thelen> i was here last night too!
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15:26:44 <Sachiru_AFK> Guys, what's the best base martial class for a gestalt Ruby Knight Vindicator?
15:26:48 <Avatar> Thelen: you don't count, you missed the first session
15:26:57 <Avatar> Sachiru: rogue
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15:27:37 <Sachiru> I meant amongst the ToB classes.
15:27:40 <Avatar> Mekkis: isn't that the same thing we've got now but set out with ascii lines, and without defining which are class skills and cross class skills
15:27:55 <Avatar> what is ToB
15:29:07 <Thelen> ahhhh
15:30:44 <MekkisScreen> Avatar: no: it's generated straight from the database
15:32:00 <Avatar> I mean in terms of what it shows when you look at it
15:32:07 <Avatar> where it's generated from isn't really relevant
15:46:19 <MekkisScreen> ah, but it is
15:46:53 <MekkisScreen> it's generated from http://nl.ti4200.info/profiler/view.php?id=1
15:57:46 <Thelen> fucking firefox
15:57:52 <Thelen> whenever it lags, locks whole PC
15:57:55 <Thelen> and i get that hardware BEEP
16:03:45 <Avatar> Mekkis: you might have missed the that not being relevant bit
16:17:34 <Avatar> hey, I have a chronicle sheet that allows me to buy a 25 charge magic missile wand!
16:17:36 <Avatar> sweet
16:27:08 <MekkisScreen> not worth it
16:27:16 <MekkisScreen> unless perhaps it's CL3
16:28:33 <Avatar> it's 375gp
16:28:37 <Avatar> it's worth it alright
16:44:49 <Avatar> Mekkis / Sachiru: http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz4xq2?Get-Found-as-communicated-by-Painlord-through
17:02:09 <Avatar> anyone find anything particularly annoying when writing up char sheets
17:02:19 <MekkisScreen> es
17:02:21 <MekkisScreen> yes
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17:02:32 <MekkisScreen> I dislike when Avatar complains about their layout
17:02:44 <Avatar> anything annoying about the template
17:02:55 <Avatar> not your disaster of a generated latex version
17:03:43 <Avatar> any starting equipment that you think people should generally always have
17:03:48 <Avatar> I've ditched the bedroll
17:03:54 <MekkisScreen> how does having a wand of magic missile coax other players into roleplaying?
17:04:03 <Avatar> what?
17:04:03 <MekkisScreen> or make the game more fun for the GM?
17:04:21 <Avatar> are you talking about that article
17:04:25 <MekkisScreen> ja
17:04:48 <Avatar> I think the point is that it's no fun if you have a powergamable character and everyone else at the table doesn't
17:05:03 <MekkisScreen> then you're missing the point
17:05:11 <Avatar> am I
17:05:53 <MekkisScreen> it's no fun DMing when you are forced not to properly play the NPCs in order to not kill the PCs
17:06:41 <MekkisScreen> and powergaming and roleplaying are not mutually exclusive
17:07:19 <Avatar> I think you're talking about something else
17:11:12 <Avatar> new template: http://dnd.ballig.net/charsheets/Character%20Sheet%20Template%20(Pathfinder%20Society).txt
17:22:38 <Avatar> changelog on g+
17:22:43 <Avatar> I didn't realise I changed quite that much
17:25:00 <MekkisScreen> so there'll be some big diffs...
17:25:08 <`Evergreen`> I just had a similar conversation with some of my peeps. In my IRL game, I play a rogue. I made a nice rogue, you know, typical of her class. My friend made a cavalier that's good.
17:25:52 <MekkisScreen> and...?
17:26:29 <`Evergreen`> The problem is some of the other fuckers we play with. The DMs GF (yes, stereotypical as it is), is playing a Sorc. She tells us at lvl 2, after taking unseen servants as one of her only lvl 1 spells, that when she's level 3 she'll be useful. This is when she gets her bloodline power, and she can touch attack at 10 feet.
17:26:58 <`Evergreen`> Her character and her plan for the character are so skewed and convoluted. It makes no sense.
17:27:28 <MekkisScreen> mmmm
17:28:16 <`Evergreen`> It gets frustrating when you took the time to actually make a viable character, and then someone else at the table has a shitty character that they put together half-assedly and with no clear image in mind.
17:29:04 <`Evergreen`> Basically she wanted to have tentacles on her face so she picked abberant. She wanted to do the "Friend of the Djinn" class because of the once a day spell retrieval ability. Not for the spells... "Because it would make a really cool pet".
17:30:12 <MekkisScreen> the thing that a lot of people overlook is that you can do a lot more roleplaying out of combat than in combat
17:30:34 <MekkisScreen> so it's in everyone's interest to get combat finished quickly
17:31:04 <`Evergreen`> For a lot of reasons, really, not just RP.
17:31:10 <MekkisScreen> (note that "finished quickly" does not mean "take all the risk out of it")
17:32:48 <`Evergreen`> I wish I could cut her up and put her in a meat grinder.
17:33:25 <Ballig> Mekkis: it was one game
17:33:33 <`Evergreen`> Not really, though.
17:33:53 <MekkisScreen> Ballig: I don't really want to argue about that QQ session :S
17:38:07 <Avatar> are you scarred from it
17:38:18 <MekkisScreen> no
17:39:08 <Avatar> need a bb code version of that template now
17:39:42 <Ballig> Avatar: I'll stop working on Friday !
17:39:56 <Avatar> I stopped working 3 weeks ago !
17:40:08 <Avatar> AND I don't have to go back !!!
17:40:24 <Ballig> is that your recommendation
17:40:30 <Avatar> hell yes
17:42:13 <Avatar> I can't even go half way to the kind of formatting you've got on the Bobbob sheet because anyone who isn't really super crazy familiar with it won't pick it up
17:45:15 <MekkisScreen> but I know that it's rather pointless to argue...
17:55:49 <MekkisScreen> `Evergreen`: keep in mind that Avatar thinks that a faction is nothing more than a source of prestige points and a prerequisite for traits
17:58:14 <Ballig> it has something for everyone
18:00:00 <Avatar> I think everyone here but you know that isn't quite the case
18:00:25 <Avatar> I just argue it to you the way I do to balance out your roleplaying is all that matters attitude
18:00:37 <`Evergreen`> I'm just glad that there's no weird turn-ins or rep grinding.
18:01:02 <Ballig> `Evergreen`: if you make me a sandwich I will give you 50 rep
18:01:16 <`Evergreen`> I also don't know anything about the factions.
18:01:20 <Avatar> there are weird turn-ins
18:01:26 <`Evergreen`> Make your own sammich.
18:01:31 <Avatar> your faction decides what side mission you get during scenarios
18:01:45 <Avatar> if you achieve your faction mission, you get prestige and fame
18:01:45 <`Evergreen`> Ooh. How interesting.
18:01:58 <Avatar> you need fame to buy stuff that costs more
18:02:02 <`Evergreen`> which feeds itno gear later
18:02:04 <`Evergreen`> right.
18:02:08 <Avatar> and prestige lets you buy things for 'free' like 'rep'
18:02:33 <`Evergreen`> Kathy Griffin: Tired Hooker is playing again for the third or fourth time back to back.
18:03:04 <Ballig> paytv?
18:03:23 <`Evergreen`> how quaint. Is that what you call cable in the outback?
18:03:45 <`Evergreen`> Its on Bravo.
18:07:00 <Ballig> what's that
18:07:13 <Avatar> it's after alpha
18:07:18 <Ballig> ha ha
18:09:03 <`Evergreen`> Bravo used to be a premium channel that was cable plus. They played various movies. Now adays they play real housewives reality TV, Kathy Griffin comedy specials, etc. Its sort of an unofficial channel for gays in a way.
18:10:41 <Ballig> oh
18:10:51 <Ballig> that's brave of you
18:11:21 <`Evergreen`> Hmm?
18:13:50 <Ballig> coming out like that
18:14:36 <Avatar> congratulations evergreen, we're v.proud of you
18:14:42 <`Evergreen`> to strangers on the internet who play RPG on IRC?
18:14:54 <Ballig> yeah
18:14:56 <Ballig> I mean, I couldn't do it
18:14:57 <Ballig> :)
18:15:14 <`Evergreen`> Well, its very low concequence, really, but thank you.
18:15:36 <`Evergreen`> Aslo, since you cant see my face or hear my voice, I dont want to be confused for a girl
18:15:54 <Ballig> we assume everyone is male
18:16:04 <`Evergreen`> this is so smart
18:18:24 <`Evergreen`> Girls dont know how to use computers, and theyre allergic to the internets
18:29:13 <`Evergreen`> So what does everyone do for fun?
18:29:20 <`Evergreen`> Besides IRC-RPG
18:32:51 <Ballig> program
18:33:14 <MekkisScreen> yeah
18:33:15 <MekkisScreen> :S
18:33:52 <MekkisScreen> Avatar, Ballig: http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/extraction.txt
18:34:01 <Ballig> sounds painful
18:34:02 <MekkisScreen> what do you think about the format of the bottom of it
18:35:36 <`Evergreen`> lol, The Mekkis Extraction. It sounds like what will cause zombie apoc
18:35:39 <Ballig> what's CC
18:35:46 <Ballig> cross class?
19:07:10 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Thurs 22nd 7pm, Sat & Sun 10am (Avatar) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
19:07:10 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Wed Dec 21 13:18:54 2011
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19:07:26 <`Evergreen`> Seriously, though. I don't have a webcam or mic. Is this going to be an issue?
19:09:14 <`Evergreen`> And is there a roller built into IRC>
19:11:16 <Ballig> there is a roller
19:15:11 <`Evergreen`> how do you roll?
19:15:18 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+5
19:15:19 <diebot> Ballig, 1d20+5: [1d20=15] 20
19:15:49 <`Evergreen`> Oh, the machine is among us
19:15:56 <`Evergreen`> !throw 4d6
19:15:57 <diebot> `Evergreen`, 4d6: [4d6=5,2,2,2] 11
19:16:23 <`Evergreen`> !throw 1d20
19:16:23 <diebot> `Evergreen`, 1d20: [1d20=2] 2
19:16:28 <`Evergreen`> Gross
19:16:47 <`Evergreen`> Im usually very lucky with a d20
19:16:57 <Ballig> that's not how it works
19:16:58 <Ballig> :p
19:17:04 <`Evergreen`> in the future even luck will be replaced by silicon
19:17:18 <`Evergreen`> I get it, its odds
19:17:46 <`Evergreen`> and we're creatures who notice patterns, and expect a pattern to continue, but statistically it is irrelevant
19:20:33 <Ballig> MekkisScreen: fixed the bug preventing images being loaded properly from a savefile
19:20:50 <Ballig> Avatar: which incidentally also fixed the bug about the background disappearing when you change the box size
19:20:54 <Ballig> well, not incidentally
19:21:06 <Ballig> I went out to fix the box size bug and it turned out to be the same as the load bug
19:21:11 `Evergreen` is now known as Horace^Myrthit
19:23:27 <Ballig> Avatar: that was one of your high priority bugs, right?
19:38:22 <Horace^Myrthit> Alright, I'm closing the window. Peace.
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19:39:16 <Ballig> doesn't sound like he'll be back
19:41:43 <Thelen> heh
19:43:57 <Ballig> yeah I've seen that template
19:44:52 <Ballig> I'm fixin' so many bugs here I should be called the bug fixer
19:45:05 <Thelen> XD
19:48:41 <Ballig> I can't seem to replicate the issue of the override box size bug
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20:08:27 <Mekkis> Ballig, send me the code, if you can..?
20:08:31 <Mekkis> hmmm
20:08:42 <Mekkis> my character seems to have become diminuitive
20:09:15 <Ballig> I'll send it, but it's not yet releasable
20:09:24 <Ballig> want to fix a few more bugs
20:09:38 <Mekkis> sure
20:11:59 <Ballig> how do you want it
20:12:02 <Ballig> keep in mind it's a tar bomb
20:12:29 <Mekkis> run a clean before you send it
20:12:44 <Mekkis> then tar.bz2 the whole directory
20:12:55 <Ballig> there's a lot of extras in there
20:13:05 <Mekkis> ok
20:13:43 <Mekkis> 7zip it?
20:15:04 <Ballig> then how do you want me to send it
20:16:05 <Mekkis> could you upload it somewhere. You seem to still have your nl.ti4200.info account
20:17:11 <Ballig> yeah but you used a crazy password that no one would ever remember
20:17:15 <Ballig> I'll just put it on my web server
20:17:18 <Mekkis> ok
20:17:31 <Ballig> because you don't use a real IRC client
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20:17:43 <Mekkis> I do
20:17:54 <Mekkis> I just bounce it off several places first
20:25:24 <Ballig> why don't they bounce back to you
20:29:48 <Brunius> The angle and spin of the throw
20:29:56 <Brunius> It's a fine art Ballig
20:30:04 <Ballig> your face is a fine art
20:30:24 <Brunius> YOUR MUM IS A FINE ART
20:30:40 <Ballig> uncalled for
20:31:15 <Brunius> Maybe.
23:03:17 <Avatar> Ballig: sure was
23:03:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> indeed
23:07:33 <Avatar> MekkisScreen: is it possible to list class skills first, then cross class skills afterwards
23:08:12 <Avatar> the standard sheets do it the way you're doing it on paper because that isn't possible without writing the whole thing yourself
23:10:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> anyone here know of a good website to search for RPGs?
23:10:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't like rpggeek nor rpgnet
23:11:51 <Brunius> google
23:12:36 <Spaceshot_tm2> helpful
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23:13:19 <Mekkis> Avatar, should be
23:18:33 <Spaceshot_tm2> how's dreadmor?
23:19:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> well, it's more like rogue than nethack, but nethack was the first thing that came to mind
23:21:53 <Brunius> No light will touch your face again
23:26:34 <Avatar> I haven't tried it yet
23:28:07 <Avatar> what is mask of the tiger's eye
23:28:29 <Avatar> it's on a chronicle sheet but I can't find the item in a book anywhere
23:29:27 <Brunius> Is it explained on the sheet?
23:29:35 <Avatar> no
23:29:39 <Avatar> just a price
23:30:13 <Brunius> The mask is a 'unique item' that will only appear on the Chronicle sheet for PFS#33. Basically it is a masterwork tool for the intimidate skill, out of the PRPG equipment chapter. The cost for a masterwork tool is 50gp and they arbitrarily added 5gp for materials.
23:30:18 <Brunius> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderSociety/gmDiscussion/pathfinderSocietyScenario33AssaultOnTheKingdomOfTheImpossibleSPOILER
23:30:18 <Avatar> the background music is bloody awful
23:31:26 <Avatar> cheers
23:31:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> not the best
23:31:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> and I just died on level 2, not cool
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23:39:54 <Mekkis> yay for port spray
23:43:17 <Avatar> found a very broken tutorial
23:43:40 <Avatar> seems like a bit of a waste, you can buy a masterwork tool for 50gp and you don't have to tack on anything for materials
23:45:16 <Avatar> I'm doing things it's not telling me to do and it thinks I'm doing it right and proceeding anyway
23:45:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
23:45:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> anywho, I'm going, have fun dungeoning
23:46:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> yes, but for a masterwork item, you have to give a reason why said item works for your skill
23:46:11 <Avatar> gg
23:46:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can't just go, I want to get a masterwork diplomacy item
23:46:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> and get it
23:46:25 <Avatar> technically I don't think you even have to go that far really
23:46:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> or a masterwork stealth item, and bamn you get it
23:47:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> also, get dungeons of dreadmor avatar, it's only 1.50
23:47:08 <Avatar> what is dungeons of dreadmor
23:47:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> kinda like nethack
23:48:49 <Avatar> looks more like monkey island than nethack
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23:49:48 <Avatar> cheap enough to take on your recommendation
23:49:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's like nethack
23:49:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> trust me
23:50:00 <Avatar> with the expansion it's 1.87
23:50:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> worth it
23:50:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> the expansion is good
23:50:21 <Avatar> 9MB
23:50:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's like nethack, but it's also quite different
23:50:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh yea XD
23:50:31 <Avatar> didn't think I'd find a game cheaper than terraria in hd space
23:53:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
23:54:56 <Avatar> wonder if it's worth buying DNF now that it's finally a reasonable price
23:56:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's duke nukem though
23:57:16 <Avatar> Once more it is a time of adventure, of glory. It is time for a Hero. Unfortunately, this hero is You.
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