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00:13 <Avatar> I think they have to do it straight away
00:22 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what if you don't report it yet XD
00:27 <Avatar> I've read something about it in the forums re having to choose a character as soon as possible
00:31 <Mekkis> it's not the report date
00:40 <Mekkis> it's the date on the chronicle sheet
00:52 <Avatar> spaceshot: you're talking about the whole group cheating
00:58 <Avatar> having the whole group banned from PFS would suck quite a bit
01:48 <Spaceshot_tm2_> wha?
01:57 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how would it be found out?
01:58 <Avatar> you can't just not report it
02:09 <Spaceshot_tm2_> what, you think you'd get an audit?
02:22 <Ballig> is it worth the risk if you do
02:23 <Avatar> the motivation not to cheat shouldn't be based on whether you're caught or not
02:30 <Spaceshot_tm2_> haha...
02:32 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it's harmless
02:34 <Mort> In The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, the goblins appear as green-skinned creatures, a little shorter than humans, carrying iron weapons and sometimes lockpicks. They are seen as "dirty little beasts", and can be found in sewers or abandoned houses and forts.
02:48 <Avatar> it's unfair
02:53 <Spaceshot_tm2_> it doesn't do anything but allow you to play we be goblins first, then first steps 1-3 and be 1xp at level 2
03:07 <Spaceshot_tm2_> how is that unfair?
03:22 <Mekkis> Spaceshot_tm2_, the chance of you getting an audit if I suspect you of cheating when you sit at my table is Very High
03:41 <Spaceshot_tm2_> sure, if I'm cheating at a table
03:43 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but this isn't that
04:04 <Ballig> there's no reason not to play first steps 1 instead
04:06 <Ballig> I could run that as easily
04:10 <Mekkis> the metaphor extends to this channel, when I'm DMing
04:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> yea, but for a brand new character
04:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd have to play first steps 1-3 before we be goblins
04:49 <Spaceshot_tm2_> mekkis: I mean I wouldn't call this cheating in the game, at a table, on IRC whatev
05:19 <Mekkis> but your separation of internet/offline is different to mine
05:39 <Spaceshot_tm2_> true
06:54 <Spaceshot_tm2_> should of been more clarative
06:56 <Mekkis> and whether or not you consider this a table has nothing to do with whether or not cheating on IRC is permitted
07:08 <Spaceshot_tm2_> wha?
07:34 <Spaceshot_tm2_> no I mean what we're doing I wouldn't consider cheating at a table/game/IRC table/Google + table/other form of table
08:18 <Mekkis> and I'm saying that your consideration into the matter has nothing to do with whether it is or is not cheating
08:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> this is more just not reporting the game at the time of play
08:36 <Mekkis> that's fraud
09:29 <Spaceshot_tm2_> true
09:38 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but this way, I'd play we be goblins before level 2
10:04 <Mekkis> that's ok
10:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and since I've only got fresh character/s
10:31 <Mekkis> there's nothing /wrong/ with that
10:58 <Spaceshot_tm2_> I'd want to play we be goblins
10:58 <Mekkis> however, it Ballig's running First Steps 1, and I've got first steps 2 in the pipeline...
11:05 <Spaceshot_tm2_> because we have a limited number of players
11:15 <Spaceshot_tm2_> and you can't keep doing scenarios
11:19 <Spaceshot_tm2_> the same ones
11:25 <Ballig> first steps is designed for fresh characters
11:36 <Mekkis> first steps is also an exception to that rule
11:38 <Ballig> the reason that Avatar suggested doing first steps first is because you must be level 1 to do first steps
11:43 <Ballig> whereas you can be level 1 or 2 to apply we be goblins
12:06 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but you can't do first steps if you've done it twice
12:17 <Spaceshot_tm2_> which I bet many of you have
12:19 <Ballig> you can do it, you just dont' get credit
12:28 <Spaceshot_tm2_> ahh, which gives no reason to do it
13:14 <Mekkis> actually. you do get credit
13:29 <Mekkis> it's the "tier 1-2 exception"
14:19 <Mekkis> FYI, I've DMed First Steps 1 three times, First Steps 2 twice, First Steps 3 twice and played it once....
14:53 <Ballig> do you get credit every time you DM it for first steps?
14:56 <Spaceshot_tm2_> don't think I, maybe even them, knew about the helping newbs/we won't make too many tier 1-2 scenarios exception
15:09 <Mekkis> Ballig, correct
15:16 <Ballig> that's a lot of first level characters
15:24 <Mekkis> it means that it's unlikely for me to play a first level character anytime soon
15:25 <Mekkis> :S
15:42 <Avatar> you want a challenge, you should play one
15:47 <Mekkis> 10339-6 has 2 XP
15:52 <Avatar> instead of your overpowered powergamered up chars
15:54 <Avatar> !
15:57 <Ballig> haha
15:58 <Ballig> !
16:09 <Mekkis> (it doesn't have a name, race, gender or faction yet)
16:19 <Ballig> name it Avatar
16:23 <Ballig> make it a cowardly bard
16:40 <Mekkis> I'm thinking of making it a melee gunslinger !
16:55 <Mekkis> Power Attack with a Musket !
17:04 <Ballig> you have to use grit
17:11 <Mekkis> no, you have to have grit
17:27 <Ballig> I thought it took grit
17:32 <Ballig> Avatar: does it take grit to use your pistol whip
18:10 <Mekkis> oh
18:19 <Mekkis> not only does it use one grit
18:25 <Mekkis> it requires a standard action
18:29 <Mekkis> (ie, no AoO)
18:40 <Ballig> don't all AOOs use a standard action
18:43 <Mekkis> nope
18:47 <Mekkis> they use an attack action
18:55 <Ballig> isn't that a standard action
18:59 <Mekkis> nope
19:14 <Mekkis> a standard action can be used to make an attack
19:25 <Mekkis> but, say you have a BAB of 16
19:36 <Mekkis> when you full-attack, you have 4 attack actions
21:17 <Mekkis> ( so strictly speaking, that bandit would have disarmed Buck)
21:20 <Mekkis> :S
22:19 <Ballig> didn't he try anyway
22:22 <Ballig> and didn't make the CMB
22:32 <Mekkis> yeah
22:46 <Ballig> so the AOO didn't really alter the disarm
22:47 <Mekkis> but that was because he took a penalty due to taking damage from the AoO
22:55 <Ballig> ahhh
23:00 <Ballig> was wondering why it was at a -6
23:10 <Mekkis> yeah
23:14 <Mekkis> should have been a -2
23:18 <Mekkis> which would have been 17
23:19 <Ballig> should have disarmed him and thrown his gun in the water
23:27 <Mekkis> which was Buck's CMB
23:35 <Mekkis> CMD*
23:45 <Spaceshot_tm2_> heh, anywho I'll be happy to play whatever during the week for the next whenever, except 2moz (doing shit during the day) and when other times I'm doing stuff during the weekday, which is very rare
24:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> but atm I'm going to bed
24:16 <Spaceshot_tm2_> might make a more fun character than the zen archer
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18:43 Topic for #d&d is: PFS: Tue 27th 10.30am (Mekkis, game in progress) / Thu 29th 10am (Avatar, game in progress) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
18:43 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Dec 26 22:56:18 2011
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18:51 <Ballig> Avatar: did you call Brunius
18:58 <Avatar> no of course not, it's not 10.30
19:05 <Ballig> he said he might be asleep
19:12 <Ballig> you don't think it's worthwhile calling him 10 minutes early to make sure we can wake him up?
19:13 <Avatar> he's entitled for another 10 minutes
19:23 <Ballig> don't bitch when we start 10 minutes late then
19:24 <Avatar> 15 minutes grace after the starting time
19:41 <Avatar> if he's not here by 10.45 after calling him, we go without him
20:09 <Ballig> he didn't want us going without him
20:22 <Avatar> yeah but he still has to show up on time to a scheduled game
20:27 <Avatar> especially after we try contact him
20:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> we contact him now
20:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> and not be a dick about it :P
20:51 <Mekkis_znc> that's funny coming from you
21:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> well contact him now*
21:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> I liked it
21:08 <Avatar> I'm not harassing someone before they're meant to be here
21:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> even if they told you they might be asleep
22:09 <Avatar> if somebody called me before a game was scheduled to start and I was sleeping, I would be extremely pissed off with you
22:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> why?
22:47 <Avatar> because I don't like being woken up unless I have to be
22:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> so you'd prefer to be late than early?
24:03 <Ballig> yeah but we know you will arrive right on time
24:14 <Ballig> I do the same thing, I set an alarm for the exact time of the game and I know I will wake up
24:21 <Ballig> there are some people we know that don't do that :p
24:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure you wake up at that time, but you're not on IRC at the start time
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26:16 <Ballig> yeah I am
26:44 <Horace^Myrthit> Hello everyone. how's it going?
27:31 <Ballig> going fine
27:55 <Horace^Myrthit> sweet yo
28:03 <Horace^Myrthit> I'm still at work, sadly.
28:33 <Ballig> sucks2bu
28:48 <Horace^Myrthit> For another 1h45m. I am making time and a half and will get an additional 10 hour floating holiday to use any day that I like, so there is that.
29:42 <Ballig> use it today
30:46 <Horace^Myrthit> Well, that's not how it works. Today is the observed holiday for Christmas. I could have taken the day off, and just had a paid holiday. Since I'm working, I'll get 1.5 times my pay and the extra day off another day. So it's 2.5 times my normal pay for the same 10 hour shift.
31:09 <Horace^Myrthit> And if I didn't work it, I'd end up just sitting at home doing nothing, or cleaning, or playing dungeons of dredmor
31:16 <Ballig> yeah take today off as your floating holiday
31:41 <Horace^Myrthit> I won't have a floating holiday until after I work today.
31:56 <Horace^Myrthit> S'imposible!
32:39 <Ballig> find a way
32:45 Avatar gives channel operator status to Mekkis_znc
33:21 * Avatar removes channel operator status from Avatar
33:34 <Avatar> brb guys just going to make some tea
33:38 <Ballig> haha
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35:07 <Ballig> how convenient
35:25 <Avatar> he's on his way
36:30 <Mekkis_znc> moin
36:45 Mekkis gives channel half-operator status to diebot
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38:40 <Brunius> Hey
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38:46 <Brunius> Sorry I'm late
38:46 <Avatar> yo
38:51 <Avatar> mekkis we ready to go
38:58 <Mekkis> should be
39:03 <Mekkis> just tidying some stuff up
39:06 <Mekkis> IDENTIFY
39:14 <Ballig> OVER 9000
39:20 <Mekkis> all good
39:33 <Mekkis> Buck, I'll need some more sense motive checks, I'm running low :S
39:34 <Avatar> I reckon you should make it IdEnTiFy
39:38 <Avatar> but also with alternating colours
39:42 <Avatar> like: 
39:43 <Avatar> CaUtIoN!
39:56 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive
39:56 <diebot> Avatar, sense motive: [1d20=4] 12
39:57 <diebot> Avatar, sense motive: [1d20=16] 24
39:57 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive
39:57 <diebot> Avatar, sense motive: [1d20=3] 11
40:00 <Avatar> er
40:06 <Ballig> take the middle one take the middle one !!
40:06 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
40:07 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
40:12 <Mekkis> thanks
40:30 Avatar is now known as Buck
41:09 <Mekkis> I should be skypeable now
44:15 Ballig is now known as Bobbob
44:32 <Mekkis> You sail on after the altercation with the 'river thugs', as Lady Riverbane calls them and although you pass several other vessels, none of them display any aggression  towards you.
44:43 <Bobbob> yeah because they know we'll fuck them up
44:44 <Mekkis> You spend the night on the boat.
44:48 <Bobbob> and my pony can now attack at a +4 !!
44:54 <Mekkis> oh no !
45:29 <Mekkis>  The next morning, low grey clouds smear the sky, and by midday tall trees leaning over the riverbank further obstruct the pale sun.
45:58 <Mekkis> A gloomy mood falls on the pirate crew as the ship enters Echo Wood.
46:13 <Buck> when we get a moment alone, I tell the other 3 guys quietly that Lady Riverbane is hiding something
46:29 <Brunius> Jerks
47:01 <Buck> "So what's Riverbane's story", I say to a crew member
47:45 <Buck> !throw 1d20-1 diplomacy
47:45 <diebot> Buck, diplomacy: [1d20=10] 9
48:33 <Mekkis> A mere hour before dusk, the sailors’ misgivings crystallise when the expedition comes across a barge trapped in giant webs.
48:55 <Mekkis> The wind seems to come to a dead still as the Scrag Fisher
48:55 <Mekkis> approaches the wreckage of a hulking river barge. “It’s the
48:55 <Mekkis> Hanspur’s Luck, Milady—or what’s left of it,” grumbles one
48:55 <Mekkis> of the pirates. Like a large bee stuck in a spider’s web, the
48:55 <Mekkis> partially sunken boat bulges out of a mesh of sticky tangles,
48:55 <Mekkis> its deck slightly sloping abaft. Slowly turning the wheel, Lady
48:55 <Mekkis> Riverbane orders her ship toward the ensnarled derelict,
48:55 <Mekkis> and a minute later the Scrag Fisher’s moorings are secured
48:55 <Mekkis> to the Hanspur’s Luck. The captain turns around and says,
48:55 <Mekkis> “Here we are mates. That looks like a good place to start your
48:55 <Mekkis> investigation, wouldn’t you say?”
49:01 <Brunius> Were you reading at all man?
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50:51 <Buck> good on you tristen
50:57 <Buck> I have some tea in your stead
51:24 <Brunius> Apparently tea is very good.
51:33 Brunius is now known as Kaleb
51:48 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Bobbob
51:52 Bobbob gives voice to Kaleb
51:55 * Bobbob removes channel operator status from Bobbob
52:02 <tristen> hey is a game kicking off?
52:10 <Bobbob> we're continuing a game
52:15 <tristen> k
52:18 <Bobbob> :)
52:20 <Bobbob> back a day early?
52:23 <tristen> yeah
52:28 <tristen> last night actually
52:39 <Bobbob> nice
53:11 <Bobbob> I'll get off our boat
53:42 * Buck drinks an antitoxin
54:08 <Bobbob> can we approach the stuck boat without getitng stuck in the webs?
54:09 * Buck loads his gun
54:10 <Mekkis> please reconnect
54:17 <Mekkis> yes you can avoid the webs
55:09 <Bobbob> we'll do that
56:38 <Bobbob> I'll go down
56:43 <Bobbob> the cleric will take the rear
56:56 <Kaleb> I was yellow
58:42 <Bobbob> I want to inspect the door to the north
58:53 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
58:54 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=4] 5
58:54 <Buck> @see
58:54 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=11] 19
58:58 <Kaleb> Aid:
58:59 <Kaleb> @see
59:00 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=19] 28
59:19 <Kaleb> +11 vs traps :)
00:06 <Mekkis> initiative?
00:10 <Buck> @init
00:11 <diebot> Buck, initiative: [1d20=3] 6
00:13 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 initiative
00:14 <diebot> Bobbob, initiative: [1d20=8] 12
00:29 <Kaleb> @init
00:30 <diebot> Kaleb, Initiative: [1d20=1] 7
00:31 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20 kyra
00:31 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra: [1d20=11] 11
00:34 <Kaleb> T>T
00:58 <Mekkis> !throw 3#1d20+3
00:59 <diebot> Mekkis, 3#1d20+3: [1d20=20] 23, [1d20=9] 12, [1d20=7] 10
03:14 <Mekkis> (1) throws a web at Buck
03:44 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+7 touch
03:44 <diebot> Mekkis, touch: [1d20=20] 27
03:53 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+7 confirmation
03:54 <diebot> Mekkis, confirmation: [1d20=15] 22
04:19 <Mekkis> Buck is /Entangled/
04:23 <Mekkis> it's now Bob's turn
04:29 <Bobbob> I charge 10ft north
04:33 <Bobbob> and attack #1
04:59 <Buck> Entangled', 'The character is ensnared. Being entangled impedes movement, but does not entirely prevent it unless the bonds are anchored to an immobile object or tethered by an opposing force. An entangled creature moves at half speed, cannot run or charge, and takes a –2 penalty on all attack rolls and a –4 penalty to Dexterity. An entangled character who attempts to cast a spell must make 
04:59 <Buck> a concentration check (DC 15 + spell level) or lose the spell.
05:09 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+12 p-attack charge
05:09 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack charge: [1d20=14] 26
05:19 <Bobbob> !throw 3d6+30 damage
05:19 <diebot> Bobbob, damage: [3d6=4,6,2] 42
05:45 <Bobbob> I'll end turn
05:45 <Mekkis> the next spider throws a web at Bob and his horse
05:48 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+7
05:49 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+7: [1d20=14] 21
06:23 <Mekkis> it's now the cleric's turn
06:58 <Bobbob> she'll move two north and one northeast
07:01 <Bobbob> and attack #3
07:22 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6
07:22 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+6: [1d20=1] 7
07:31 <Bobbob> end Kyra's turn
08:00 <Mekkis> spider bites Kyra
08:05 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4
08:05 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+4: [1d20=9] 13
08:14 <Bobbob> AC 17
08:18 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
09:01 <Kaleb> Move to G13
09:16 <Kaleb> Drawing Shortsword on the way
11:48 <Kaleb> brb
12:14 <Bobbob> man tristen, you're hilarious
12:19 <Kaleb> Rolling tumble?
12:29 <Mekkis> roll it
12:32 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Acrobatics
12:32 <diebot> Kaleb, Acrobatics: [1d20=6] 17
12:43 <Mekkis> you fail
12:53 <tristen> lolol
13:04 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4 bite
13:04 <diebot> Mekkis, bite: [1d20=2] 6
13:11 <Mekkis> standard action remains
13:35 <Kaleb> Stab #3 with Shortsword
13:45 <Mekkis> roll it
13:49 <Kaleb> @melee
13:49 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=20] 27; Damage: [1d4=3] 3; Sneak Attack Damage: [2d6=3,1] 4
13:59 <Mekkis> roll confirmation
14:00 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+7 Crit confirm
14:01 <diebot> Kaleb, Crit confirm: [1d20=13] 20
14:07 <Mekkis> roll damage again
14:14 <Kaleb> !throw 1d4
14:14 <diebot> Kaleb, 1d4: [1d4=3] 3
14:21 <Mekkis> ok
14:41 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
15:06 <Bobbob> I'll poke at #2
15:32 <Bobbob> I'll risk a power attack
15:36 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6
15:36 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+6: [1d20=3] 9
15:41 <Mekkis> you miss
15:45 <Bobbob> can my pony use escape artist?
16:02 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+11 handle animal
16:03 <diebot> Bobbob, handle animal: [1d20=8] 19
16:43 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+2 strength
16:43 <diebot> Bobbob, strength: [1d20=13] 15
17:33 <Bobbob> I'll take out my anti-toxin
17:37 <Bobbob> end turn
17:51 <Mekkis> the spider bites Billy
17:55 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4
17:56 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+4: [1d20=18] 22
18:04 <Mekkis> yum
18:05 <Bobbob> AC 16
18:07 <Bobbob> er, 17
18:09 <Mekkis> yum yum
18:30 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+7 ride
18:31 <diebot> Bobbob, ride: [1d20=2] 9
18:39 <Mekkis> !throw 1d8+3
18:40 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d8+3: [1d8=6] 9
18:49 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 fort
18:49 <diebot> Bobbob, fort: [1d20=8] 12
19:06 <Mekkis> Billy takes
19:12 <Mekkis> !throw 1d6 strength damage
19:13 <diebot> Mekkis, strength damage: [1d6=3] 3
19:25 <Mekkis> what's Billy's load like now?
19:42 <Avatar> there you go
19:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> under the table it says no action
20:34 <Mekkis> it's now the cleric's turn
20:50 <Mekkis> Buck, take your turn
21:15 <Buck> !throw 1d20+4
21:16 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+4: [1d20=5] 9
21:20 <Buck> I reload
21:22 <Mekkis> you mis
21:32 <Mekkis> it's now the cleric's turn
21:46 <Bobbob> the cleric attacks #2
24:21 <Bobbob> she'll cast bless defensively
24:23 <Bobbob> (rather than the attack)
24:31 <Mekkis> roll it
24:33 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8 concentration
24:34 <diebot> Bobbob, concentration: [1d20=3] 11
24:41 <Mekkis> Fzzt!
24:53 <Mekkis> the other spider bites Kaleb 
24:59 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+6 bite
25:00 <diebot> Mekkis, bite: [1d20=9] 15
25:12 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
25:31 <Kaleb> If I move 1N, am I flanking with Bobbob?
28:11 <Kaleb> 1N and stab #2
28:27 <Kaleb> 5ft N and stab #2
28:47 <Kaleb> @melee
28:48 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=3] 10; Damage: [1d4=4] 4; Sneak Attack Damage: [2d6=5,5] 10
28:51 <Mekkis> miss
28:58 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
29:07 <Mekkis> roll it
29:08 <Buck> !throw 1d20+4
29:08 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+4: [1d20=6] 10
29:11 <Mekkis> miss
29:17 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
29:18 <Buck> reload
30:17 <Bobbob> my pony will make a strength check
30:30 <Bobbob> I'll push him
30:52 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+11 handle animal
30:52 <diebot> Bobbob, handle animal: [1d20=7] 18
31:04 <Bobbob> I'll attack #2
31:22 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6 power attack
31:23 <diebot> Bobbob, power attack: [1d20=10] 16
31:33 <Kaleb> All the Games Workshop d6s I have roll 6s and 1s more often than any other number
31:42 <Kaleb> It's crazy
31:53 <Mekkis> hits
32:01 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
32:02 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=3] 13
32:11 <Mekkis> ok
34:02 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+7
34:02 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+7: [1d20=8] 15
34:22 <Bobbob> !throw 2#1d20+2 hoof
34:22 <diebot> Bobbob, hoof: [1d20=20] 22, [1d20=10] 12
34:30 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+2 confirm
34:30 <diebot> Bobbob, confirm: [1d20=11] 13
34:38 <Bobbob> !throw 1d3
34:38 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d3: [1d3=2] 2
34:48 <Mekkis> cool
34:56 <Mekkis> Billy, make a fortitude save
35:03 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 fortitude
35:03 <diebot> Bobbob, fortitude: [1d20=10] 14
35:07 <Mekkis> !throw 1d2 strength damage
35:07 <diebot> Mekkis, strength damage: [1d2=1] 1
35:50 <Mekkis> the spider will bite Billy again
36:47 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4 attack
36:48 <diebot> Mekkis, attack: [1d20=10] 14
36:57 <Mekkis> ok
37:08 <Mekkis> it's now the cleric's turn
37:17 <Bobbob> the cleric will take a 5 foot step southwest
37:54 <Bobbob> she'll cast bless
37:55 <Bobbob> on all of us
38:05 <Mekkis> ok
38:10 <Mekkis> you are all Blessed
38:17 <Mekkis> move-equivalent action remains
38:43 <Bobbob> she'll end turn
39:08 <Mekkis> bite at Buck
39:14 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4 CHOMP
39:15 <diebot> Mekkis, CHOMP: [1d20=8] 12
39:18 <Buck> miss
39:22 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
39:35 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+10 Attack
39:36 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=17] 27
39:45 <Mekkis> hits
39:49 <Kaleb> !throw 1d4 Damage; 2d6 Sneak Attack
39:49 <diebot> Kaleb, Damage: [1d4=4] 4; Sneak Attack: [2d6=3,2] 5
40:14 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
40:31 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4 AoO
40:31 <diebot> Mekkis, AoO: [1d20=17] 21
41:10 <Mekkis> !throw 1d8+3 damage
41:10 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [1d8=6] 9
41:11 <Mekkis> roll fort
41:22 <Buck> !throw 1d20+9 fort
41:22 <diebot> Buck, fort: [1d20=11] 20
41:32 <Mekkis> you're fine
41:39 <Buck> !throw 1d20+4
41:39 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+4: [1d20=11] 15
41:47 <Buck> !throw 1d12+2
41:47 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+2: [1d12=11] 13
41:50 <Buck> YEP
41:55 <Mekkis> noise
41:56 <Buck> reload
42:13 <Mekkis> sure
42:18 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
42:25 <Bobbob> I'll attack #3
42:39 <Mekkis> roll it
42:41 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6 p-attack
42:42 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=11] 17
42:43 <Buck> 13/25
42:45 <Mekkis> hits
42:49 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10
42:50 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d6+10: [1d6=3] 13
43:12 <Mekkis> what else are you doing, Bobbob?
43:43 <Kaleb> I'm on 19/24, just carrying over from last session
43:54 <Bobbob> I push my pony to escape artist
43:56 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+11
43:56 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+11: [1d20=20] 31
44:11 <Mekkis> roll escape artist
44:14 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 escape artist
44:14 <diebot> Bobbob, escape artist: [1d20=17] 18
44:58 <Mekkis> Billy breaks free
45:10 <Bobbob> end turn
45:16 <Mekkis> Billy make a fort save
45:23 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 fortitude
45:23 <diebot> Bobbob, fortitude: [1d20=11] 15
45:31 <Mekkis> Billy fights it off
45:43 <Mekkis> it's now the cleric's turn
45:53 <Bobbob> the cleric will use her CLW wand on Buck
46:03 <Mekkis> roll it
46:06 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
46:07 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=1] 2
46:14 <Buck> 15/25
46:20 <Mekkis> ok 
46:21 <Buck> 16/25
47:31 <Bobbob> she's endung turn
47:33 <Bobbob> ending
47:33 <Buck> 15/25
47:35 <Mekkis> ok
47:38 <Mekkis> Kaleb?
47:51 <Kaleb> sup
48:04 <Kaleb> I'll spend a round scanning for more spiders
48:08 <Mekkis> ok
48:11 <Mekkis> Buck>?
48:12 <Kaleb> Perception?
48:59 <Buck> !throw 1d20+1 str 
48:59 <diebot> Buck, str: [1d20=9] 10
49:07 <Mekkis> you fail
49:11 <Mekkis> now you're off initiative
49:23 <Mekkis> and I'm taking a brief respite to get some coffee
49:25 <Bobbob> "Kyra, do you think you could get one of the poison glands from these spiders?"
49:30 <Bobbob> "They look like they might be useful."
50:18 <Bobbob> kyra will use her CLW wand on Buck
50:29 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
50:29 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=1] 2
50:32 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
50:32 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=3] 4
50:36 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
50:36 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=1] 2
50:40 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
50:40 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=4] 5
50:44 <Bobbob> and on Billy
50:45 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
50:46 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=6] 7
50:59 <Buck> 25/25
51:18 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
51:19 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=2] 3
51:51 <Kaleb> 19/24
52:26 <Bobbob> ignore one of those wand charges, Buck is a nub
52:32 <Buck> :|
54:50 <Bobbob> man tristen
54:54 <Bobbob> constant source of amusement
57:39 <Kaleb> I think I will get the inner sea world guide, rather than the APG
57:52 <Kaleb> Fluff.
02:54 <Horace^Myrthit> Yay, but only 6 minutes remain before I can leave this god-forsaken place.
03:50 <Buck> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz4yno?Attacks-of-Opportunity
06:48 <Kaleb> Where is Mekkis?
07:38 <Buck> http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz4yod?Attacks-of-Opportunity#1
07:44 <Mekkis> back
08:00 Horace^Myrthit has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
08:22 <Bobbob> [11:49:09 AM] <+Bobbob> "Kyra, do you think you could get one of the poison glands from these spiders?"
08:23 <Bobbob> [11:49:14 AM] <+Bobbob> "They look like they might be useful."
09:28 <Bobbob> I'll take 20 to disentangle
09:34 <Bobbob> and we will search the ship
09:47 <Buck> also taking 20
09:48 <Bobbob> Kaleb can take the lead
09:50 <Bobbob> and the rest will aid
09:51 <Mekkis> roll perception
09:53 <Buck> @see
09:53 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=10] 18
09:54 <Kaleb> @see
09:54 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=1] 10
10:05 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
10:06 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=17] 18
10:17 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 kyra
10:17 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra: [1d20=15] 19
10:33 <Mekkis> buck finds two crates ful of gunpowder
10:38 <Mekkis> full even
11:28 <Mekkis> you find three bottles labelled in Osiriani
11:52 <Mekkis> you find a logbook
11:56 <Kaleb> I drink one of the bottles.
11:58 <Bobbob> what's in the logbook
11:59 <Mekkis> and some papers
11:59 <Bobbob> I read that
12:11 <Mekkis> Kaleb drinks a bottle
12:26 <Mekkis> perception, Kaleb?
12:31 <Kaleb> @see
12:31 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=10] 19
12:46 <Mekkis> you feel slightly restored
13:17 <Bobbob> what's in the logbook
14:16 <Mekkis> The document states that the /Hanspur's Luck/ was ordered by Lady Riverbane to come to this location and await further instructions.
15:48 <Mekkis> There's what looks like the flooded remains of an alchemist's lab here.
15:54 <Mekkis> To the south of the ship
16:02 <Bobbob> anything interesting int he remains?
16:03 <Bobbob> in the
16:16 <Mekkis> nothing useful
16:28 <Mekkis> there ae a bunch of other supplies
16:37 <Mekkis> knowledge (local)?
16:55 <Buck> !throw 1d20+2 local
16:55 <diebot> Buck, local: [1d20=15] 17
17:02 <Kaleb> Can I roll it too?
17:09 <Mekkis> go ahead
17:14 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+6 K:Local
17:15 <diebot> Kaleb, K:Local: [1d20=14] 20
17:30 <Mekkis> there is evidence to suggest that many of these supplies are of Andoran origin
19:10 <Bobbob> we'll go back to lady Riverbane
19:16 <Mekkis> ok
19:23 <Mekkis> "What did you find?"
19:38 <Bobbob> "My Lady, we have investigated the ship. It was infested by giant spiders, but no corpses of the men were on board."
19:48 <Bobbob> "We did however find the logbook that suggests they were to wait here for further instruction, from you."
19:53 <Bobbob> "How were they to get the further instructions?"
20:02 * Buck frowns at her
20:08 <Kaleb> I'm watching her very carefully
20:20 * Buck glares at her
20:49 <Mekkis> "That is disappointing. I sent them here to launch a rescue expedition into the forest with the crew. That might be where they are now."
21:15 <Bobbob> "But you didn't send them with that instruction."
21:26 <Bobbob> "You sent them with the instruction to await further instructions."
21:27 <Kaleb> glower
21:27 <Bobbob> "How did they receive these further instructions?"
21:51 <Buck> "What aren't you telling us."
21:58 <Mekkis> "I had one of the rangers in my employ send an /animal messenger/. I requested secrecy.
22:48 <Mekkis> make spellcraft if you want
23:53 <Bobbob> "Okay. Do we know where the original crew went?"
24:28 <Mekkis> "I would /hope/ that they followed my orders."
24:57 <Buck> "Why are you lying to us?"
25:09 <Bobbob> I want to use diplomacy to see if she will tell us what she is hiding
25:12 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+7
25:12 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+7: [1d20=1] 8
25:13 <Mekkis> she looks indignant
25:23 <Mekkis> "I'm not lying to you."
25:30 <Bobbob> "Fair enough."
25:31 <Buck> "You're hiding something."
25:33 <Buck> "What is it."
25:52 <Buck> emphasis on hiding
25:58 <Bobbob> _hiding_
28:06 <Mekkis> "It is likely that they were ambushed by spiders as they walked through the forest. I would be wary of them."
28:26 <Kaleb> le sigh
29:08 <Buck> "If I find you're not telling me something, we're going to have another little talk."
29:13 <Buck> and I step away
29:33 <Mekkis> "I find your veiled threats insulting. I would suggest you hold your tongue."
29:42 <Buck> I ignore her 
29:57 <Bobbob> okay
29:59 <Bobbob> we go into the forest
30:01 <Mekkis> You continue downstream.
30:01 <Bobbob> once more into the breach!
30:11 <Mekkis> for another day
30:39 <Mekkis> you rest up, to find that the ship has been anchored near a forest path
32:26 <Kaleb> brb tea
34:14 <Kaleb> alright what's goin on
35:23 <Bobbob> okay
35:23 <Bobbob> 2--delay poison, lesser restoration x2, cure moderate wounds (d)
35:24 <Bobbob> 1--bless, command x3, cure light wounds (d)
35:24 <Bobbob> 0--detect magic, guidance, light, stabilize
35:31 <Bobbob> we bid the Lady farewell and move into the forest
35:44 <Bobbob> resistance instead of light
35:45 <Bobbob> christ
36:03 <Bobbob> I drink antitoxin
36:20 <Bobbob> Mekkis
36:49 <Buck> I have antitoxin in hand
36:53 <Mekkis> As you go above deck, Lady Riverbane hails you.
37:08 <Bobbob> "Yes, my Lady?"
37:19 <Mekkis> "Greetings. This is where the previous party left us."
37:30 <Bobbob> "Do we have any idea where the party was headed"
37:32 <Buck> we use the antitoxin after leaving the ship, not before
37:49 <Mekkis> "I have drawn up a map detailing where they were to go, and where we last heard of them."
37:58 <Bobbob> "Excellent."
38:14 <Bobbob> "We hope to bring back any survivors."
38:32 <Buck> is there anymore mekkis
38:38 <Buck> does she say anything else
38:48 <Mekkis> "So do I."
39:03 <Mekkis> Buck, are you rolling sense motive?
39:09 <Buck> yeah
39:10 <Buck> I don't trust her
39:11 <Mekkis> (my pool of your rolls is exhausted)
39:18 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
39:19 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 sense motive @mekkis
39:29 <Buck> I sense her motive 3 times
39:37 <Buck> :o)
40:14 <Buck> when the rest of the party starts along the forest path, I'm not going to follow them immediately, just glaring at Riverbane a moment longer before I follow them
40:29 <Bobbob> make Perform (dramatics) check
41:23 <Mekkis> can you hear me on skype?
41:29 <Buck> no
41:39 <Mekkis> call me back
43:05 <Mekkis> no handout
43:37 <Mekkis> the  map is really simple
43:47 <Mekkis> it shows several bends, but no other paths
43:48 <Buck> antitoxin in hand
43:58 <Mekkis> you think that at normal speed, it'll take about 4 hours
43:59 <Buck> we're on alert for anything suspicious
44:09 <Mekkis> With Kaleb, that means about 6 hours
44:52 <Kaleb> T.T
45:05 <Bobbob> Kaleb is such a jerk
45:09 <Kaleb> Can I ride on Bobbob's horse?
45:14 <Buck> I take Dobs with me
45:14 <Bobbob> ride on Buck's horse
45:16 <Buck> !
45:25 <Kaleb> Hey hang on
45:28 <Kaleb> I have a horse!
45:34 <Kaleb> Yeah
46:13 <Mekkis> call me again
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46:32 <Kaleb> Hey Jaggedsoul
46:55 <Jaggedsoul> sup kaleb
47:58 <Mekkis> The forest here is ancient. Dense masses of leafage impose
47:58 <Mekkis> an eerie twilight of dark green while forlorn trees speak of
47:58 <Mekkis> a bygone age where humans wrestled for survival in a land
47:58 <Mekkis> of darkness. Many thick sheets of giant webbing stretch like
47:58 <Mekkis> great shrouds around the gaunt trees and groveling bushes.
48:26 <Kaleb> Shortsword at the ready
48:43 <Mekkis> give me a marching order
48:55 <Jaggedsoul> can I still play?
49:12 <Mekkis> no sorry, we're about 70% through the scenario
49:14 <Kaleb> I'm second
49:20 <Bobbob> I'm first
49:21 <Bobbob> cleric is last
49:54 <Buck> I go last, the cleric sits between me and kaleb
50:51 <Mekkis> ok
51:24 <Mekkis> Kaleb, just as Bobbob is about to move onto pile of leaves, you stop him
51:36 <Mekkis> (you've found a trap just ahead of Bobbob )
51:47 <Bobbob> "Oh, why?"
51:55 <Kaleb> "There's a trap here."
52:06 <Bobbob> "Dastardly."
52:12 <Buck> "Good thing we brought you along."
52:14 <Kaleb> "Who doesn't want us through here?"
52:25 <Bobbob> "Well, certainly Lady Riverbane wants us to succeed."
52:26 <Buck> I put away my antitoxin, take out my gun
52:30 <Bobbob> "She said as much and she seems trustworthy."
52:40 <Kaleb> Is that sarcastic at all?
52:43 <Bobbob> no
52:46 <Kaleb> Yeah
52:57 <Kaleb> "Stay back a second"
53:07 <Kaleb> I disable the trap, if possible
53:26 <Kaleb> @disable
53:27 <diebot> Kaleb, Disable Device: [1d20=17] 28
54:04 * Kaleb bows
54:12 <Mekkis> The trap is nicely disabled. Kaleb notices that it was 20' deep
54:13 <Kaleb> "Kaleb, master trap disabler at your service"
54:27 <Mekkis> make perception checks
54:30 <Kaleb> Can I see anything at the bottom?
54:31 <Kaleb> @see
54:31 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=18] 27
54:34 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
54:34 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=8] 9
54:38 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 kyra perception
54:38 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra perception: [1d20=2] 6
54:42 <Buck> @see
54:42 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=15] 23
54:52 <Mekkis> Kaleb sees a broken, web-covered corpse at the bottom of the pit
55:03 <Kaleb> "Someone down there"
55:07 * Buck takes out the antitoxin
55:12 <Kaleb> "Anyone wanna go down and check it out?"
55:40 * Buck puts it away again, taking out the gun
56:03 <Bobbob> I lend Buck my climber's kit
56:27 <Buck> take 10 to climb down and investigate the corpse
56:31 <Buck> avoiding the webs
56:45 <Mekkis> ok
56:49 <Mekkis> you find a corpse
57:00 <Mekkis> he looks to be one of the Black Marquis' men
57:21 <Kaleb> brb
57:35 <Bobbob> we'll continue
57:39 <Buck> I climb back out, gun up
57:59 <Mekkis> As you continue, Buck and Kaleb notice a few other corpses, hanging upside-down
58:02 <Buck> I give back Bobbob his climber's kit
58:03 <Mekkis> covered in webs
58:06 <Mekkis> on the side of the path
58:52 <Bobbob> I'll drink an antitoxin
59:00 <Buck> I drink an antitoxin
59:02 <Bobbob> and continue
59:05 <Buck> gun up
59:11 <Bobbob> lance out
59:41 <Kaleb> Shortsword ready
00:15 <Bobbob> what's in the box? what's in the box?!
00:19 <Bobbob> Bobbob goes to look at the ditch
00:27 <Kaleb> what's in the box today?
00:33 <Mekkis> you see a twitching man in there
00:59 <Bobbob> can we retrieve him?
01:07 <Mekkis> he's in the ditch
02:03 <Kaleb> I've got 7 to climb
02:08 <Kaleb> Ah
02:14 <Kaleb> I can UMD and CLW wand
02:16 <Bobbob> Cleric will use the climber's kit and take 10 (for 11) to climb down
02:35 <Kaleb> I swap to my shortbow and nock an arrow
02:50 <Mekkis> make a reflex save
02:52 <Buck> !throw 1d20+11 heal cleric
02:52 <diebot> Buck, heal cleric: [1d20=18] 29
03:05 <Buck> !throw 1d20=3 reflex
03:06 <diebot> Buck, reflex: [1d20=13] 16
03:06 <Kaleb> Cleric makes a reflex save?
03:12 <Kaleb> Or everyone?
03:14 <Kaleb> @ref
03:14 <diebot> Kaleb, Reflex: [1d20=15] 24
03:54 <Mekkis> the cleric's covered in webs
04:00 <Kaleb> great
04:11 <Mekkis> make perception checks
04:15 <Kaleb> @see
04:15 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=17] 26
04:16 <Buck> @see
04:16 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=20] 28
04:20 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
04:21 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=9] 10
04:24 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 kyra perception
04:25 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra perception: [1d20=20] 24
04:34 <Mekkis> You can smell a strange scent
05:00 <Mekkis> and hear what seems to be a roaring tide, made by thousands of tiny feet across the forest floor
05:06 <Kaleb> Fu---
05:14 <Mekkis> roll initiative
05:18 <Buck> @init
05:19 <diebot> Buck, initiative: [1d20=19] 22
05:19 <Kaleb> @init
05:19 <diebot> Kaleb, Initiative: [1d20=14] 20
05:20 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 init
05:20 <diebot> Bobbob, init: [1d20=20] 24
05:24 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+0 kyra init
05:24 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra init: [1d20=15] 15
06:43 <Mekkis> three actions each
06:54 <Buck> we relay the info to Bobbob
06:56 <Kaleb> "Over there!" (pointing towards the spiders)
07:52 <Kaleb> "Spiders, over there"
07:58 <Mekkis> you've got two rounds left
07:58 <Kaleb> "Lots of them"
08:08 <Bobbob> I'm readying an action
08:12 <Bobbob> to throw the alchemist's fire
08:17 <Bobbob> at the spiders when they're within range
08:21 <Bobbob> and Kyra
08:22 <Buck> I move to F6-G7
09:00 <Kaleb> I secure the rope around a tree here
09:05 <Kaleb> Then around my torso
09:12 <Kaleb> Opposite ends
09:19 <Buck> H9-I10
09:28 <Bobbob> my readied action will be when they are at I13
09:40 <Bobbob> and I give alchemist's fire to Kaleb
09:50 <Buck> I lay gunpowder away from his body but towards the way the spiders are coming from
09:56 <Buck> and I take out my torch, and light it
10:30 * Bobbob has offered spiders!!.cag (568 bytes)
10:31 <Kaleb> The torch or the gunpowder
10:36 <Buck> the torch
10:37 * DCC RECV connection established to Bobbob [109.235.52.28:39883]
10:38 * DCC RECV spiders!!.cag from Bobbob complete [568 cps].
10:44 <Buck> and then I'll ready an action to light it when the spiders are over it
13:22 <Bobbob> three strength checks for the cleric
13:24 <Mekkis> roll 3 escape artist or strength checks
13:28 <Mekkis> one at a time
13:29 <Bobbob> !throw 3#1d20+2 strength
13:29 <diebot> Bobbob, strength: [1d20=4] 6, [1d20=19] 21, [1d20=17] 19
13:38 <Mekkis> she succeeds on the second time
13:42 <Mekkis> what else is she doing?
13:46 <Bobbob> and uses her third round to climb back out
14:20 <Mekkis> roll climb
14:28 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1
14:28 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+1: [1d20=10] 11
14:48 <Mekkis> the SPIDERS arrive!
14:51 <Buck> cleric @ I10
14:53 <Bobbob> FUX
15:36 <Mekkis> Kaleb, roll to-hit
15:39 <Kaleb> Straight ranged attack?
15:41 <Mekkis> ja
15:54 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+7 Attack
15:55 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=4] 11
16:19 <Mekkis> miss
16:34 <Mekkis> !rng N NE E SE S SW W NW
16:35 <diebot> Mekkis, NE
16:40 <Kaleb> feth
16:50 <Mekkis> BOOM!
16:58 <Mekkis> !throw 7d6 damage
16:59 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [7d6=3,1,6,3,4,4,2] 23
17:04 <Kaleb> Ohhh
17:07 <Mekkis> the spiders die
17:16 <Mekkis> Kaleb, reflex save?
17:21 <Kaleb> @ref
17:21 <diebot> Kaleb, Reflex: [1d20=8] 17
17:45 <Mekkis> the ditch is a bit larger now
18:05 <Mekkis> in IRC please
18:11 <Kaleb> I go down for the body this time
18:43 <Kaleb> Tying the rope around a tree (K10?) and my torso
18:51 <Mekkis> ok
18:57 <Kaleb> Yeah
19:01 <Kaleb> I go down, taking 10
19:04 <Mekkis> you go down the pit, avoid the spider webs
19:13 <Mekkis> and realise that the body is cold
19:25 <Kaleb> "Dead"
19:25 <Mekkis> with a thread on his arm
19:28 <Kaleb> (Yelling back up)
19:30 <Mekkis> the thread twitches
19:51 <Kaleb> I told you I should go down
19:56 <Kaleb> Trapsense bitches
20:00 <Kaleb> Yeah
20:04 <Kaleb> I follow the trap back
20:08 <Kaleb> Nope
20:24 <Kaleb> I didn't see anything, so I assume that my trapsense failed
20:49 <Mekkis> You see what looks like a spider-shaped impression in the foliage.
20:54 <Mekkis> It's empty now
21:12 <Bobbob> we'll continue on
21:31 <Kaleb> I go back and tell the party
21:32 <Mekkis> You're now at the location marked on the map.
21:40 <Buck> we search the area
21:43 <Kaleb> No loot on the body?
21:49 <Mekkis> The gaping mouth of a tunnel opens into a bleak, cavern-like mound.
21:54 <Mekkis> no loots
22:20 <Bobbob> "This doesn't look like a trap at all."
22:58 <Bobbob> I'll do a perception for anything strange
23:01 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
23:01 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=3] 4
23:04 <Buck> @see
23:05 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=10] 18
23:06 <Kaleb> @see
23:06 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=6] 15
23:14 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 kyra perception
23:14 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra perception: [1d20=5] 9
23:31 <Mekkis> you all see the entrance to a cae
23:37 <Bobbob> I enter
23:38 <Mekkis> you can't see any immediate traps
25:05 <Mekkis> what are you doing?
25:15 <Bobbob> [1:23:19 PM] <+Bobbob> I enter
25:32 <Mekkis> The tunnel opens into a large cavern. Thick layers of sagging
25:32 <Mekkis> webs choke the room from floor to ceiling. Beyond the mass
25:32 <Mekkis> of tangles, jade flames burn about a rough pyramid-shaped
25:32 <Mekkis> dais, bathing the whole chamber in an eldritch green glow.
25:32 <Mekkis> Gruesome carcasses and human-sized cocoons dangle from
25:32 <Mekkis> ghastly strands. In places, walls are covered with worn-out
25:32 <Mekkis> bas-reliefs and faded markings. The air smells of dust, decay,
25:32 <Mekkis> and death.
26:55 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 knowledge religion
26:56 <diebot> Bobbob, knowledge religion: [1d20=10] 15
27:10 <Buck> !throw 1d20+7 religion
27:10 <diebot> Buck, religion: [1d20=13] 20
30:20 <Kaleb> Ballig, that's 80% of my screen
30:48 <Mekkis> This cavern is an old temple dedicated to Mazmezz, the Creeping Queen
31:05 <Mekkis> it hasn't seen formal worship for at least 100 years
32:34 <Kaleb> Ballig, did we get our poison?
33:06 <Bobbob> I'll drink another antitoxin
33:06 <Buck> I drink an antitoxin
33:43 <Mekkis> what are you doing now?
33:58 <Kaleb> I go at the front
34:04 <Bobbob> Kyra will pull out a torch
34:05 <Kaleb> For awesome trap sensing
35:29 <Kaleb> @see
35:30 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=9] 18
35:32 <Buck> @see
35:32 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=6] 14
35:33 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1
35:34 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+1: [1d20=18] 19
35:37 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 kyra
35:37 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra: [1d20=3] 7
36:02 <Mekkis> /from where you are/, you see several web-wrapped bodies hanging from the webs at J23
36:22 <Mekkis> they're dangling
36:31 <Kaleb> brb
36:44 <Bobbob> I walk in
36:55 <Mekkis> where to?
36:55 <Bobbob> I call out, "Show yourself, spider!"
37:04 <Bobbob> M22
37:13 <Mekkis> ok
37:15 <Buck> the cleric goes with him
37:55 <Buck> Kaleb moves to L20
38:19 Jaggedsoul has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
38:23 <Kaleb> Good one
38:57 <Mekkis> hmmm
39:03 <Mekkis> Kaleb, Bobbob and Kyra
39:07 <Mekkis> make perception I suppose
39:09 <Kaleb> It's a trap!
39:10 <Kaleb> @see
39:11 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=13] 22
39:12 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
39:13 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=15] 16
39:25 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 perception
39:25 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=16] 20
39:27 <Buck> I start setting a trap of black powder
39:31 <Mekkis> Kaleb sees something glistening from W22
39:37 <Mekkis> where, Buck?
39:39 <Buck> at column N
39:42 <Kaleb> "Something over there"
39:46 <Kaleb> "Something glistening"
39:54 <Kaleb> (Pointing to W22)
39:59 <Mekkis> glittering even
41:37 <Buck> 26/27/28
41:38 <Mekkis> IRC please
42:34 <Kaleb> I should clean my desk soon
43:04 <Kaleb> Carpet bombing?
43:08 <Bobbob> I move feurther in
43:09 <Bobbob> -e
43:16 <Bobbob> "Come on! I know you can understand me. Show yourself."
43:21 <Mekkis> where to?
43:32 <Bobbob> R20
43:57 <Mekkis> ok
43:59 <Mekkis> now what?
44:12 <Bobbob> further perceptions if they might work
44:16 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
44:16 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=17] 18
44:18 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 perception
44:18 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=6] 10
44:19 <Buck> @see
44:20 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=17] 25
44:25 <Mekkis> hmmm
44:37 <Kaleb> @see
44:37 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=4] 13
44:41 <Mekkis> you see some bodies in the mass of webs to the south-ease
44:43 <Mekkis> east even
45:35 <Bobbob> How confident am I that there is nothing in the spider webs north of me?
46:27 <Bobbob> "Kyra, burn t hose webs." and I point north
47:04 <Bobbob> I move further north, to maybe R15
47:40 <Bobbob> "You gain nothing from this cowardice."
47:46 <Buck> any bodies in the burnt webs?
47:47 <Mekkis> a single charred corpse hits the ground
47:53 <Bobbob> "Mazmezz would be disgusted."
48:03 <Bobbob> Kyra will do a heal check
48:07 <Bobbob> to determine whether it's dead, and how it died
48:17 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+11 kyra heal
48:18 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra heal: [1d20=4] 15
48:21 <Buck> !throw 1d20+7 heal
48:21 <diebot> Buck, heal: [1d20=17] 24
48:42 <Mekkis> it is a char of burnt web , skin and bone
49:27 <Buck> I move 10ft behind the cleric, following
49:53 <Mekkis> ok
50:19 <Bobbob> "Kaleb, do you want to shoot that torch?"
50:25 <Bobbob> Kyra will cast resistance on us all
50:27 <Bobbob> and then guidance
50:44 <Mekkis> ok
50:52 <Bobbob> and then detect magic, looking toward the altar
51:16 <Mekkis> there aare several torches
51:21 <Mekkis> they all radiate magic
51:46 <Bobbob> what school of magic?
51:56 <Mekkis> evocation
52:09 <Mekkis> (continual flame)
52:33 <Bobbob> "Can you shoot the dais?"
52:55 <Kaleb> Alright
53:08 <Kaleb> "Alright. Anywhere in particular?"
54:08 <Buck> I shoot the dais
54:19 <Mekkis> BANG
54:21 <Mekkis> nothign happens
54:26 <Buck> I reload
54:36 <Mekkis> ok
54:41 <Buck> I set down the black powder
55:09 <Mekkis> where?
55:16 <Buck> forget that
55:20 <Mekkis> ok
55:21 <Buck> I go and investigate the dais
55:42 <Mekkis> give me a route
55:49 <Kaleb> Aw crap
55:52 <Kaleb> I go with him
55:54 <Buck> just via column Q/R
56:13 <Mekkis> it looks liek a disused altar
56:16 <Bobbob> I'm staying where I am
56:26 <Mekkis> kile even
56:54 <Buck> !A3
56:56 <Mekkis> nope
56:57 <Buck> is that a wall
56:58 <Mekkis> nowhere
57:00 <Mekkis> it's a wall
57:34 <Bobbob> the cleric will search the east web
57:37 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 perception
57:38 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=13] 17
57:41 <Mekkis> route please
57:52 <Buck> I'll search the north west webs
57:59 <Bobbob> along row 14
58:05 <Buck> I just take the shortest route
58:26 <Mekkis> BANG
58:40 <Bobbob> I'm worried about spiders on the roof
58:40 <Bobbob> :p
58:45 <Mekkis> a stone block swings from the ceiling at Kyra
58:49 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5 attack
58:50 <diebot> Mekkis, attack: [1d20=14] 19
59:00 <Mekkis> !throw 4d6 damage
59:01 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [4d6=2,6,3,6] 17
59:16 <Bobbob> 16/33
59:20 <Mekkis> a creature jumps down behind Bobbob 
59:26 <Bobbob> AOO!
59:26 <Mekkis> another one jumps down behind Kaleb 
59:30 <Mekkis> no
59:45 <Mekkis> initiatives
59:51 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 init
59:51 <diebot> Bobbob, init: [1d20=19] 23
59:54 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+0 kyra init
59:55 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra init: [1d20=14] 14
59:55 <Kaleb> @init
59:55 <diebot> Kaleb, Initiative: [1d20=12] 18
00:06 <Buck> @init
00:07 <diebot> Buck, initiative: [1d20=11] 14
00:37 <Bobbob> 43/43 for me
00:41 <Kaleb> I can't be bothered wrestling with this mic anymore
00:48 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+3
00:49 <diebot> Mekkis, 2#1d20+3: [1d20=18] 21, [1d20=2] 5
00:53 <Kaleb> It's lose, keeps slipping down
01:09 <Kaleb> loose even
01:22 <Mekkis> hmmm
01:28 <Mekkis> one bites at Bobbob
01:41 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5
01:42 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+5: [1d20=13] 18
01:57 <Bobbob> 20 flatfooted
02:21 <Mekkis> !findchar Bobbob
02:25 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Bobbob, number: 269( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=269 )
03:00 <Mekkis> the other one attacks Kaleb 
03:05 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5 bite
03:06 <diebot> Mekkis, bite: [1d20=14] 19
03:12 <Kaleb> hits
03:21 <Mekkis> !throw 1d8+2 damage
03:22 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [1d8=3] 5
03:24 <Mekkis> fort save
03:28 <Kaleb> 19/24
03:30 <Kaleb> @fort
03:30 <diebot> Kaleb, Fortitude: [1d20=1] 4
03:33 <Kaleb> T>T
03:45 <Mekkis> !throw 1d6 dex damage
03:46 <diebot> Mekkis, dex damage: [1d6=5] 5
03:52 <Kaleb> Feth
03:54 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
04:01 <Bobbob> I drop my shield and attack #2
04:04 <Kaleb> on 13 dex
04:06 <Mekkis> ok
04:08 <Mekkis> roll ti
04:10 <Mekkis> it*
04:23 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8 p-attack
04:24 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=4] 12
04:26 <Mekkis> miss
04:41 <Bobbob> 5 foot southwest
04:52 <Bobbob> end turn
04:57 <Kaleb> 13 is a +1
05:00 <Kaleb>  right?
05:14 <Mekkis> it bites at Kaleb 
05:16 <Kaleb> well shit son
05:19 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+7
05:20 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+7: [1d20=4] 11
05:24 <Kaleb> miss
05:27 <Mekkis> it claws Kaleb
05:28 <Mekkis> twice
05:39 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+5
05:39 <diebot> Mekkis, 2#1d20+5: [1d20=6] 11, [1d20=17] 22
05:47 <Mekkis> !throw 1d3+1 damage
05:48 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [1d3=2] 3
05:55 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
06:02 <Kaleb> 16/24
06:32 <Kaleb> I 5ft NE
06:49 <Kaleb> Then stab #1
06:52 <Kaleb> Flanking, am I?
06:52 <Mekkis> roll ti
07:13 <Mekkis> uyes
07:15 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+6 Attack
07:16 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=12] 18
07:37 <Mekkis> hits
07:39 <Kaleb> !throw 1d4 Damage; 2d6 Sneak Attack
07:39 <diebot> Kaleb, Damage: [1d4=3] 3; Sneak Attack: [2d6=1,3] 4
07:47 <Kaleb> C'mon sneak attack!
07:51 <Kaleb> Stop letting me down
07:54 <Mekkis> ok
08:00 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
08:11 <Buck> I shoot #2
08:16 <Mekkis> ok
08:35 <Buck> 5ft step closer to get point blank shot
08:37 <Buck> south
08:41 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8
08:41 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+8: [1d20=7] 15
09:05 <Buck> !throw 1d12+2
09:05 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+2: [1d12=1] 3
09:09 <Buck> and reload
09:14 <Mekkis> ok
09:31 <Mekkis> it's now Kyra's turn
09:52 <Bobbob> Kyra moves northwest and west
10:07 <Kaleb> Where are those potions we found?
10:13 <Kaleb> Oh, do I?
10:27 <Kaleb> We think they were lesser restoration, right?
10:42 <Buck> mekkis can you hear us on skype
11:07 <Bobbob> and cast cure light wounds on Kaleb
11:11 <Bobbob> using her domain slot
11:15 <Bobbob> (yeah, she has healing domain)
11:24 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+4
11:24 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+4: [1d8=7] 11
11:30 <Kaleb> 24/24
11:33 <Mekkis> ok
12:20 <Mekkis> strange
12:25 <Mekkis> ok
12:33 <Buck> ok
12:39 <Bobbob> I'm trying to re-call you on skype
12:50 <Mekkis> it bites at Bobbob 
12:55 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5
12:56 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+5: [1d20=7] 12
12:59 <Bobbob> miss
13:02 <Bobbob> AC 20
13:04 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
13:18 <Bobbob> I smack #1
13:32 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+8 p-attack
13:32 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack: [1d20=1] 9
13:33 <Mekkis> roll it
13:41 <Mekkis> miss
13:47 <Mekkis> any further actions?
14:31 <Bobbob> I'll 5 foot east
15:02 <Mekkis> ok
15:16 <Mekkis> any further actions?
15:20 <Bobbob> end turn
15:39 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5 bite Bobbob 
15:40 <diebot> Mekkis, bite Bobbob: [1d20=13] 18
15:45 <Bobbob> miss
15:47 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+3 claw Bobbob 
15:48 <diebot> Mekkis, claw Bobbob: [1d20=14] 17, [1d20=9] 12
15:53 <Bobbob> miss, miss
15:54 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
16:48 <Kaleb> 5ft S
16:55 <Kaleb> Then stab #1
16:56 <Kaleb> Bitch
17:11 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+6 Attack
17:11 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=1] 7
17:26 <Mekkis> now Buck's tyurn
17:45 <Buck> before I moved 5ft south
17:50 <Buck> now I am moving again to
18:05 <Buck> Q11/R12
18:11 <Buck> and shooting #2
18:28 <Mekkis> roll it
18:36 <Buck> !throw 1d20+8 boom
18:36 <diebot> Buck, boom: [1d20=12] 20
18:40 <Buck> !throw 1d12+2
18:40 <diebot> Buck, 1d12+2: [1d12=6] 8
18:51 <Buck> and reload
18:59 <Mekkis> hits
19:07 <Mekkis> ok
19:13 <Mekkis> it's now Kyra'sturn
19:49 <Bobbob> southwest, west, southwest
19:54 <Bobbob> and attack #2
20:09 <Mekkis> roll it
20:12 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+6 attack
20:12 <diebot> Bobbob, attack: [1d20=8] 14
20:38 <Mekkis> hits
21:03 <Buck> !throw 1d6+3
21:04 <diebot> Buck, 1d6+3: [1d6=2] 5
21:13 <Bobbob> end turn
21:25 <Mekkis> full attack the cleric
21:29 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+5
21:30 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+5: [1d20=5] 10
21:35 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+3
21:36 <diebot> Mekkis, 2#1d20+3: [1d20=7] 10, [1d20=7] 10
21:43 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
21:56 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+9 ride
21:56 <diebot> Bobbob, ride: [1d20=4] 13
22:53 <Bobbob> !throw 2#1d20+2 hooves
22:53 <diebot> Bobbob, hooves: [1d20=9] 11, [1d20=8] 10
22:59 <Bobbob> 5ft south
23:04 <Bobbob> Bobbob will attack #1
23:28 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+10 p-attack & flank
23:29 <diebot> Bobbob, p-attack & flank: [1d20=14] 24
23:29 <Mekkis> ok
23:37 <Bobbob> !throw 1d6+10 damage
23:37 <diebot> Bobbob, damage: [1d6=1] 11
24:17 <Bobbob> end turn
24:28 <Mekkis> #1 attacks Kaleb 
24:40 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+7 bite
24:40 <diebot> Mekkis, bite: [1d20=2] 9
24:53 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+5 knowledge dungeoneering
24:53 <diebot> Bobbob, knowledge dungeoneering: [1d20=3] 8
24:54 <Mekkis> !thorw 2#1d20+5 claws
25:00 <Buck> !throw 1d20+2 dungeoneering
25:01 <diebot> Buck, dungeoneering: [1d20=9] 11
25:02 <Mekkis> !throw 2#1d20+5 claws
25:02 <diebot> Mekkis, claws: [1d20=9] 14, [1d20=5] 10
25:04 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+8 K:Dungeoneering
25:05 <diebot> Kaleb, K:Dungeoneering: [1d20=8] 16
25:38 <Mekkis> it's now Kaleb's turn
26:01 <Kaleb> Stab #2
26:06 <Kaleb> Ha
26:06 <Mekkis> ok
26:12 <Mekkis> roll it
26:15 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+6 Attack
26:16 <diebot> Kaleb, Attack: [1d20=13] 19
26:19 <Mekkis> hit
26:29 <Kaleb> Nope
26:33 <Mekkis> hit
26:42 <Kaleb> !throw 1d4 Damage; 2d6 Sneak Attack
26:42 <diebot> Kaleb, Damage: [1d4=3] 3; Sneak Attack: [2d6=3,5] 8
27:00 <Mekkis> ok
27:04 <Mekkis> any further actions?
27:13 <Kaleb> 5ft NW
27:28 <Kaleb> So that buck has a clear(er) shot
27:33 <Mekkis> ok
27:37 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
27:40 <Kaleb> Oh, doesn't he?
27:44 <Buck> !fire
27:46 <Buck> @fire
27:47 <diebot> Buck, firing with point blank shot: [1d20=11] 19; damage: [1d12=2] 4
27:57 <Buck> and reload
28:10 <Mekkis> ok
28:13 <Mekkis> any further actions?
28:43 <Buck> stay there
28:50 <Mekkis> ok
28:54 <Mekkis> it's now Kyra's turn
29:32 <Bobbob> she'll drop her scimitar and pull out her sling
29:35 <Mekkis> ok
29:42 <Bobbob> and shoots it
29:44 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+3
29:44 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+3: [1d20=17] 20
29:52 <Bobbob> !throw 1d4+2
29:53 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d4+2: [1d4=4] 6
29:53 <Mekkis> hits
29:57 <Mekkis> ok
29:59 <Mekkis> it falls over
30:15 <Bobbob> Kyra dances to that
30:36 <Kaleb> How do I set a highlight?
31:00 <Kaleb> I'd rather evening
31:33 Buck is now known as Avatar
31:44 <Avatar> click the address book toolbutton
31:48 Bobbob is now known as Ballig
31:48 <Avatar> then click the highlight tab
31:48 <Mekkis> probably an hour, maybe to, left of the scenario
31:52 Kaleb is now known as Brunius
32:22 <Ballig> he doesn't have that high a version I don't think
32:26 <Avatar> if that highlight bugs me, I'm turning it back off
32:28 <Ballig> er, maybe he does
32:33 <Brunius> Someone say Brunius
32:38 <Avatar> Brunius
32:44 <Brunius> Brunius
32:45 <Ballig> Brunius
32:48 <Avatar> Brunius
32:49 <Brunius> There we go
32:53 <Ballig> what did you set it to
32:55 <Brunius> Bright red
32:56 <Ballig> did you set it to $me
32:59 <Ballig> or Brunius
33:00 <Brunius> Yeah
33:03 <Ballig> $me?
33:04 <Brunius> I set it to $me
33:08 <Ballig> change nicks
33:16 Brunius is now known as Changed
33:19 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+11 to hit Changed
33:19 <diebot> Ballig, to hit Changed: [1d20=2] 13
33:25 <Changed> Also bright red
33:27 <Ballig> cool
33:28 Changed is now known as Brunius
33:35 <Ballig> now make sure it has flashing set to it
33:56 <Ballig> make sure "Flash message" is ticked and set to --
33:58 <Brunius> It has flashing set but doesn't seem to be doing so
34:10 <Ballig> it only does it when you are tabbed out of the window
34:18 <Brunius> Ah, ok
34:22 <Ballig> do you want to test it
34:27 <Ballig> tab to another window, tell me a second before you do
34:28 <Brunius> I dunno, do I?
34:30 <Brunius> Going now
34:33 <Ballig> Brunius
34:44 <Ballig> Brunius
34:46 <Brunius> (I think it's flashing)
34:49 <Ballig> haha
35:22 <Brunius> And it's set to the most annoying sound I could find
35:28 <Brunius> So it should go a little faster
36:05 <Ballig> christ, a sound
36:09 <Ballig> that will get annoying
36:25 <Brunius> Isn't that the point?
37:52 <Ballig> http://i.imgur.com/OP5cL.png
37:54 <Ballig> that's my highlight
37:56 <Ballig> that's all it needs to be
38:01 <Ballig> if you make it too annoying you won't use it for long
38:14 <Brunius> Meh
38:18 <Ballig> it's also great for rolling dice in games
38:24 <Ballig> because all of your rolls are highlighted in another colour
38:29 <Avatar> I guess you need a sound if you're not watching IRC
38:39 <Ballig> well, the flashing should get your attention
38:54 <Brunius> Should
38:57 <Ballig> haha
39:09 <Ballig> if you could make it only do the sound when the window isn't active it would be fine
39:10 <Avatar> I want to find that AoO with a ranged weapon feat
39:17 <Ballig> but hearing that sound every time someone says your nick in a game, it will get annoying
39:25 <Brunius> Maybe
39:50 <Brunius> All the nicks have pretty colours now
39:54 <Avatar> might have been a combat feat
40:21 <Ballig> I'm sure it exists
40:38 <Ballig> hm
40:41 <Brunius> !feat Precise Shot
40:41 <diebot> Brunius, No cover or concealment chance on ranged attacks
41:12 <Ballig> I should take furious focus feat
41:22 <Brunius> !feat Furious Focus
41:29 <Brunius> It doesn't exist!
41:37 <Ballig> Do not take the Power Attack penalty on the first  
41:37 <Ballig>       attack each round
41:42 <Brunius> Nice
41:42 <Ballig> it's APG
43:43 <Ballig> Avatar: maybe aim for Parting Shot
43:52 <Ballig> there it is
43:56 <Ballig> !feat Point-Blank Master
44:06 <Ballig> I don't think you can get it without a level in fighter
44:19 <Ballig> Point-Blank Master*  Weapon Specialization with a ranged weapon  Do not provoke attacks of opportunity while firing one 
44:20 <Ballig>       ranged weapon
44:52 <Ballig> 4 levels of fighter
44:52 <Avatar> 4 levels in fighter
45:02 <Ballig> okay, ditch that idea
45:15 <Ballig> Parting Shot*  Shot on the Run, base attack bonus +6  Make a ranged attack when withdrawing
45:44 <Ballig> that's a heavy requirement though
45:49 <Ballig> need dodge and mobility to get shot on the run
46:17 <Avatar> I may not skype tonight
46:21 <Avatar> I'm feeling a bit ill
46:36 <Ballig> why does that mean you can't skype
47:07 <Avatar> because I'm pretty sure it's being caused by trying to focus on one thing and having noise in my ears which is distracting the hell out of me
47:31 <Ballig> that's only an issue when you're reading
47:50 <Avatar> we're IRCing
47:52 <Avatar> always reading
48:12 <Ballig> not really
48:16 <Ballig> it's not considered "reading" on IRC
48:28 <Avatar> okay
48:36 <Avatar> if I feel better later I will, if not I won't
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19:05 <Jaggedsoul> sup
19:20 <Avatar> yo sup
19:29 <Jaggedsoul> Mitch Fatel is hilarious!
19:38 <Avatar> is that that comedian 
20:12 <Jaggedsoul> yep
20:44 <Avatar> yeah that clip is fantastic
22:42 <Jaggedsoul> awesome clip
24:01 <Avatar> I'm very funny
25:22 <Jaggedsoul> yeah...hahaha
25:29 <Jaggedsoul> works for him
25:36 <Jaggedsoul> like a mantra or sumthin
26:43 <Jaggedsoul> you guys plannin on playin?
26:56 <Jaggedsoul> today or tomorrow morning?
27:38 <Avatar> we could run another game tomorrow
27:52 <Avatar> I don't have a new one prepped yet
27:57 <Avatar> not sure if ballig or brunius do
28:16 <Avatar> I've bought a book I could run for everyone except snypt/mekkis
28:24 <Avatar> which I've actually played
28:32 <Ballig> have you played First Steps 1 Jaggedsoul
28:37 <Jaggedsoul> no
28:41 <Ballig> are you sure
28:43 <Ballig> what have you played
28:54 <Jaggedsoul> just 3
29:01 <Ballig> I'd be happy to run FS1 for some jerks
29:06 <Avatar> and we be goblins and tide of twilight
29:25 <Avatar> I wouldn't mind taking a day off playing if there are enough newbies here for first steps
29:32 <Avatar> oh uh
29:34 <Avatar> you can replay it
29:53 <Jaggedsoul> count dooku me in
30:01 <Ballig> yeah everyone can play First Steps, you just apply it to another character
30:18 <Ballig> maybe make your cavalier
30:29 <Jaggedsoul> but I can play Gogg right?
30:36 <Ballig> not if he's level 2
31:11 <Jaggedsoul> and he is bec of tide of twilight...
31:31 <Jaggedsoul> I'll make another one then
31:39 <Avatar> er
31:47 <Avatar> better to run a different scenario 
32:10 <Ballig> we can't change the scenario just for one person
32:21 <Ballig> he can still play it, just means he has a different character
32:23 <Avatar> nobody has a level 1 character
32:26 <Ballig> a bit of variety in case he doesn't want to play his fighter
32:29 <Ballig> does Thelen
32:34 <Ballig> does Brunius
32:37 <Avatar> thelen won't after shades of ice 1
32:43 <Avatar> brunius does 
32:47 <Ballig> what shades of ice 1
32:51 <Ballig> are we in the middle of a game
32:54 <Avatar> the thursday game
32:57 <Ballig> what
32:59 <Ballig> why are we playing thursday
33:05 <Avatar> shades of ice 1!
33:10 <Avatar> we are mid way through it
33:13 <Ballig> what game is that
33:14 <Ballig> was I playing
33:15 <Avatar> you were doing gather info checks
33:26 <Avatar> to find runa and the other joker
33:34 <Ballig> why has it taken so long
33:36 <Ballig> was Tristen in it
33:39 <Avatar> yeah
33:40 <Jaggedsoul> I think I'm not included in that game
33:55 <Avatar> we had to wait for tristen to get back
34:02 <Avatar> I guess we could run that tomorrow instead
34:04 <Ballig> what was Tristen's character again
34:08 <Avatar> Tasiv
34:22 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul I can't remember if you are there or not
34:31 <Ballig> I'm checking
34:48 <Avatar> our PFS tracking is a bit crap
34:59 <Ballig> tracking mid-scenarios, yeah
35:16 <Ballig> [6:14:43 PM] * Avatar sets mode: -vvv Artimus Hitomi Tasiv
35:17 <Avatar> well even with the PFS numbers and factions after every scenario
35:20 <Ballig> I'm guessing he wasn't in that scenario
35:22 <Jaggedsoul> I'm not
35:52 <Ballig> I think we had a pregen gnome sorcerer
36:08 <Avatar> Thelen: are you about
36:19 <Ballig> haha, want to play it now?
36:19 <Ballig> :p
36:29 <Avatar> no, if he plays a new scenario he might have to level it up first
39:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> what's happenin?
39:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> just got back :P
40:00 <Avatar> you missed out on a sweet game of PFS
40:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> was it the one you were playing at like 10ish?
40:17 <Avatar> ye
40:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I would've, except I went out
40:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> ok... no idea why that was italics
41:08 <Avatar> you wanted to add emphasis
41:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> clearly
43:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> I want to make a new character :P
43:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> even before playing the zen archer
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55:12 <Jaggedsoul> just holler if we'll have one tomorrow
55:23 <Avatar> it'll be in the topic if we schedule one
55:39 <Avatar> if people are here we might be able to run an impromptu one
56:44 <Jaggedsoul> at least how many?
57:14 <Ballig> 3 people and a GM
57:32 <Avatar> whoever's been playing less probably has priority
58:04 <Avatar> having a 1st level character ready to play with isn't a bad thing
59:26 <Ballig> that's what pregens are for
00:00 <Avatar> better to make your own
00:14 <Avatar> especially if it's not your first character
00:59 <Ballig> I think all my characters have been pregens
01:02 <Ballig> Bobbob and Artimus definitely
01:04 <Ballig> Samsuhn probably
01:24 <Avatar> are you happy with them
01:30 <Ballig> yep
01:34 <Avatar> completely?
01:57 <Ballig> there are things about Bobbob I'm not entirely pleased with, but it's a unique challenge not to have 100% direction on everything
02:10 <Ballig> the character feels more organic instead of grown in a laboratory
03:23 <Mekkis> !findchar amsuhn
03:24 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: amsuhn, number: 281( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=281 )
03:44 <Mekkis> that's not a pregen
04:05 <Ballig> possibly
04:09 <Ballig> I know that Bobbob and Artimus are
04:12 <Ballig> I can't remember with Samsuhn
07:39 <Ballig> Mekkis: where does Ari's +3 armour bonus come from on Grolschmir
09:35 <Mekkis> armour
09:42 <Mekkis> studded leather iir
09:42 <Mekkis> c
10:11 <Ballig> I'm not seeing it
11:09 <Ballig> side note: your character sheets are really difficult to understand properly
11:20 <Ballig> you start with a graphical-based template (like you might find in the books) and then translate directly to text, right?
11:29 <Mekkis> nope
11:35 <Ballig> alternatively, a very h eavily formatted latex sheet
11:39 <Ballig> that is then translated directly to text
12:03 <Mekkis> I start with a heavily formatted LaTeX sheet, with several outputs, one of which is an ascii output
12:09 <Mekkis> from which I extract the text from
12:20 <Ballig> it's very rigid
12:29 <Mekkis> how so?
12:54 <Ballig> it looks like a very rigid template, similar to what you would find on a graphic-based template like the books use
12:57 <Ballig> limited text inputs etc
13:20 <Ballig> you will have a column for skills that is listed as "MISC" and give a giant bonus, but not explain where the bonus comes from
13:24 <Ballig> you have to search through the sheet to find reference to it
13:54 <Mekkis> ah yes
14:23 <Ballig> I'm sure it looks great in the proper, formatted version
14:27 <Ballig> it's just really hard to understand in ascii :p
14:38 <Mekkis> !findchar Grolschmir
14:39 <diebot> Mekkis, Character: Grolschmir, number: 267( http://dnd.ballig.net/viewchar.php5?char=267 )
14:43 <Avatar> yeah it looks great when you print it out
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14:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> eye?
15:17 <Avatar> not up to it now
15:31 <Avatar> and later and tomorrow is PFS
15:34 <Mekkis> I'm working on integrating both the LaTeX output with the input from the profiler
15:59 <Ballig> did you find where the armour bonus comes from
16:12 <Mekkis> yes
16:16 <Mekkis> he's wearing armour
16:29 <Ballig> which part of the sheet is that in
16:40 <Mekkis> it's not on that sheet...
16:55 <Ballig> oh
17:01 <Ballig> well that explains why I couldnt' find it :p
17:25 <Avatar> need to have it on your sheet man
18:33 <Mekkis> it's on Ari's sheet
18:40 <Mekkis> I'll reupload it again
20:51 <Jaggedsoul> so are we playin?
21:33 <Ballig> tomorrow, most likely
21:37 <Ballig> and this evening yes
21:42 <Ballig> (to continue a game)
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23:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> what tier?
23:35 <Ballig> tonight's continuation is tier 3-4
23:38 <Ballig> tomorrow will likely be 1-2
24:06 <Jaggedsoul> I can play tomorrow then
24:06 <Avatar> Ballig: if nothing else you'll run first steps?
24:19 <Ballig> well, depends on the time
24:23 <Ballig> I am going to the gym tomorrow
24:31 <Ballig> (I mentioned this)
24:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea, and 2moz I'm going to get new shoes and look for suitcases
24:44 <Avatar> well you also mentioned most likely, but I don't see a DM confirming anything 
25:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> is bardic knowledge of great use in pfs?
26:22 <Ballig> !throw 5#1d4+1
26:22 <diebot> Ballig, 5#1d4+1: [1d4=4] 5, [1d4=1] 2, [1d4=1] 2, [1d4=1] 2, [1d4=1] 2
26:38 <Avatar> bardic knowledge is untrained knowledge checks isn't it
26:41 <Avatar> that would be a yes
26:50 <Ballig> yes
26:51 <Avatar> somehow I didn't even think about that
26:58 <Avatar> since Roger lasted 2 blody scenarios
27:00 <Avatar> bloody*
27:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmm, just thinking about dervish dancer archetype
27:10 <Ballig> blody
27:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> and you lose bardic knowledge
27:17 <Avatar> it would have been nice to have a running bard this far in
27:28 <Avatar> never seen anyone play a bard
27:32 <Avatar> in PFS
27:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> would be a dancing bard :P
28:59 <Avatar> I was a comedy bard
29:44 <Ballig> The Cowardly Bard as he has come to be known
30:25 <Jaggedsoul> Mitch Fatel would be a good comedy bard
30:32 <Ballig> man, most of my clothes are in the wash because it's holidays and I'm lazy
30:37 <Ballig> so I'm wearing a polo shirt without an undershirt
30:41 <Ballig> and I feel like I'm not wearing underwear
30:46 <Avatar> man at least you have a laundry
31:15 <Ballig> ha yeah
31:21 <Ballig> i decided last minute to put washing on last night
31:23 <Ballig> then got really tired so went to bed
31:43 <Ballig> so the clothes were still in the wash this morning, I had to put it on another rinse/spin cycle to make sure it wouldn't smell bad
33:08 <Avatar> I've been invited to a new years thing which is 6 hours from melbourne
33:40 <Ballig> haha
33:41 <Avatar> not sure how keen on that I am
33:47 <Ballig> I bet
33:47 <Ballig> I wouldn't be
33:58 <Ballig> I'm half expecting my manager to want me to come over near new years to get drunk with her
34:02 <Avatar> I've flown to adelaide for a few days for it
34:11 <Ballig> what, why
34:13 <Ballig> what's in adelaide
34:19 <Avatar> new years goodness, that's what
34:26 <Avatar> that was a brilliant new years
34:30 <Avatar> even got it on video
34:32 <Ballig> so you're saying that adelaide is better than melbourne
34:42 <Avatar> I'm saying I'll go a long way for a good time on NYE
34:50 <Avatar> even to gasp adelaide
34:51 <Ballig> to a better city, i.e. adelaide
35:25 <Avatar> the only occasions I really celebrate during the year are birthdays and new years
35:44 <Ballig> Avatar: you sure do ignore my PMs a lot
35:46 <Ballig> (jerk)
37:51 <Ballig> Mekkis: why does your roc have 8 constitution instead of 9
38:21 <Mekkis> he suffered constitution damage once
38:47 <Ballig> that sucks
38:53 <Ballig> do you not normally list that on a sheet
38:55 <Mekkis> I think it's worn off by now
39:06 <Ballig> ahh
39:51 <Ballig> how did you get his hp to 25
40:11 <Ballig> I'm seeing (8-1) at first level and (5-1) for the next three, but I'm sure I'm missing something
42:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> mekkis; if I were planning to go dervish dance feat (and thus based character), would the dervish dancer bard archetype be the best solution? or would ranger or fighter be better?
42:44 <Mekkis> no idea
43:38 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: gunslinger would be better
43:46 <Mekkis> ah
43:48 <Mekkis> that's why
43:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> ???
44:13 <Mekkis> when he was replaced, I made a mistake
44:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig; explain
44:52 <Avatar> you talk too much ballig
45:05 <Ballig> your face talks too much
45:13 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: gunslinger does ranged touch attack
45:15 <Ballig> bam, better
45:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> ?
45:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> still not sure how that helps dervish dance
46:02 <Avatar> what is dervish dance
46:16 <Avatar> mekkis
46:20 <Ballig> who said it helped dervis dancer
46:22 <Ballig> I just said it would be better
46:27 <Avatar> a venture captain reckons my pistol whip on an AoO was OK
46:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/community-creations/pel-s-lab/dervish-dance
46:39 <Mekkis> great
46:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig; why is bobbob a gunslinger then?
46:52 <Ballig> he's not
46:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> isn't*
46:58 <Avatar> so is that going to be a problem if I try it again
47:08 <Mekkis> Avatar, show me the citation
47:08 <Ballig> because I made a mistake, I am going to cross-class into gunslinger
47:11 <Ballig> so is Artimus and Samsuhn
47:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
47:31 <Avatar> oh wait
47:38 <Avatar> I got further clarification and he said no it isn't
47:58 <Ballig> seems like dervish dance would be great for Kaleb
47:58 <Avatar> man
48:00 <Ballig> am I missing something
48:19 <Ballig> what's the link again
48:43 <Mekkis> generally stuff under "custom creations" isn't a good sign
48:53 <Mekkis> go to the Source
48:53 <Ballig> oh
48:56 <Ballig> is that a homebrew feat
48:58 <Mekkis> don't use some web-reference
49:18 <Ballig> does it have a source
49:20 <Mekkis> that's the sort of thing Sachiru does
49:23 <Spaceshot_tm2> read the source
49:32 <Ballig> ah pathfinder companion
49:33 <Mekkis> why should I?
49:36 <Mekkis> it's your character
49:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> because it's right there?
49:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> on that page
49:45 <Ballig> that's not the source
49:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> says where it's from
49:47 <Ballig> that's the page
49:52 <Ballig> he's saying get the source and read that directly
50:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> I've got the source on my pc
50:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> this is my laptop
50:11 <Mekkis> that's not my fault
50:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> avatar asked what it was, and I showed him
50:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> that is all I was going to that page for
50:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> fuck your elitism is irritating sometimes
50:53 <Mekkis> good to know
51:42 <Ballig> Avatar: okay, that VC is basically saying what Mekkis and I were saying
51:53 <Ballig> I love how the whole thing got confused by people focusing on the readied action
52:39 <Avatar> the other thread I made in the right forum has a bit of a different response again
52:49 <Avatar> still based on the readied action though
52:58 <Ballig> from nobodies
53:10 <Avatar> if I had gauntlets, I could've punched him
53:14 <Avatar> haha
53:28 <Ballig> none of them even discuss the AOO which is the whole point
53:33 <Ballig> they're just discussing the readied attack
53:37 <Avatar> that is about the AoO
53:43 <Avatar> the gun couldn't do it, but an unarmed attack could have
53:44 <Ballig> well, you just have to threaten
53:50 <Ballig> get the unarmed attack feat and you threaten too
53:54 <Mekkis> even if a developer says something like that, it's not exactly official until it's posted in an FAQ 
54:01 <Mekkis> that a level of monk!
54:04 <Ballig> yeah
54:05 <Avatar> I mean technically I could have used the gun as an improvised weapon I guess
54:12 <Ballig> it's just that Avatar didn't understand and wanted clarification
54:21 <Ballig> I think it's pretty clear that it doesn't threaten for AOO purposes
54:35 <Avatar> are you really not going to listen to a developer's ruling in a forum
54:36 <Ballig> Avatar: I don't think you're considered threatening with an improvised weapon
54:55 <Avatar> what?
55:04 <Ballig> well, improvised weapon is basically /anything/
55:10 <Avatar> yeah
55:14 <Ballig> I don't think your character is considered to be threatening any squares with an improvised weapon
55:17 <Ballig> unless they have a feat for it
55:29 <Ballig> (you have to be threatening squares to get an AOO)
55:40 <Avatar> I get the AoO because he's trying to disarm
55:51 <Avatar> it's nothing to do with threatening squares
55:56 <Ballig> I believe you have to be threatening to get an AOO
56:07 <Avatar> yeah, if they're moving through said threatening squares
56:15 <Avatar> something else is triggering the AoO here
57:23 <Ballig> let me find it
58:28 <Ballig> Threatened Squares: You threaten all squares into which 
58:28 <Ballig> you can make a melee attack, even when it is not your turn. 
58:28 <Ballig> Generally,  that  means  everything  in  all  squares  adjacent 
58:28 <Ballig> to your space (including diagonally). An enemy that takes 
58:28 <Ballig> certain  actions  while  in  a  threatened  square  provokes  an 
58:28 <Ballig> attack  of  opportunity  from  you.  If  you’re  unarmed,  you 
58:28 <Ballig> don’t normally threaten any squares and thus can’t make 
58:28 <Ballig> attacks of opportunity.
58:35 <Ballig> that's the rule on threatening
59:40 <Ballig> seems to be the only concrete rule about who gets to take an AOO when one is provoked
01:09 <Jaggedsoul> We only use point buy for PFS and nothing else?
01:58 <Ballig> Jaggedsoul: yes
02:00 <Ballig> always 20 point buy
02:43 <Ballig> Mekkis: if something with natural reach tries to disarm, do you get an AOO against them if you don't threaten the square they're standing in?
02:55 <Mekkis> nope
03:09 <Ballig> okay, so you do have to threaten the square they are standing in when they perform the action
03:13 <Ballig> (that's how I interpreted it)
03:40 <Avatar> I think both perspectives are very much RAI here
04:09 <Ballig> Performing a Distracting Act: Some actions, when performed 
04:09 <Ballig> in  a  threatened  square,  provoke  attacks  of  opportunity  as 
04:10 <Ballig> you  divert  your  attention  from  the  battle.  Table  8–2  notes 
04:10 <Ballig> many of the actions that provoke attacks of opportunity.
04:29 <Ballig> the interpretation here is whether it's considered a distracting action
04:31 <Ballig> or if it's a special case
04:42 <Ballig> it might be a special case because you're not provoking from everyone who threatens you, just the one person
04:55 <Ballig> and if that's the case the regular "attack of opportunity" rules don't mention it
05:35 <Mekkis> the footnote for Table 8-2 states:
06:05 <Mekkis> 1 Regardless of the action, if you move out of a threatened square, you usually provoke an attack of opportunity. This column indicates whether the action itself, not moving, provokes an attack of opportunity.
06:35 <Ballig> yeah, but when you read attacks of opportunity rules it gives you two options for provoking: moving and performing a distracting action
06:43 <Ballig> both of these require that you are standing in a threatened square to trigger
06:53 <Ballig> but performing a combat maneuver isn't a "distracting action"
07:00 <Ballig> because you only provoke an AOO from one person, not everyone
07:21 <Mekkis> Perform a combat maneuver 6 Yes
07:34 <Ballig> but you have to admit it's a special case
07:38 <Mekkis> same table
07:40 <Ballig> you don't provoke an AOO from every person who threatens you when you try to disarm
07:45 <Ballig> just the person you are disarming against
07:48 <Avatar> there aren't combat maneuvers in that table
07:58 <Mekkis> yes there are
08:02 <Mekkis> second column
08:04 <Mekkis> bottom
08:09 <Ballig> yeah but, you don't provoke an AOO from everyone
08:12 <Ballig> just the one person
08:14 <Mekkis> you don't?
08:18 <Ballig> as far as I'm aware
08:36 <Ballig> if I try to disarm Buck and Joseph threatens me, do Joseph AND Buck get AOOs against me?
08:55 <Mekkis> hmmm
09:02 <Mekkis> you might have a point there
09:14 <Ballig> I just think it's an ambiguiation
09:20 <Ballig> (is that a word? I know disambiguation is...)
09:23 <Mekkis> Unless otherwise noted, performing a combat maneuver provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of the maneuver.
09:26 <Avatar> Unless 
09:26 <Avatar> otherwise noted, performing a combat maneuver provokes an 
09:26 <Avatar> attack of opportunity from the target of the maneuver.
09:33 <Mekkis> ambiguity
09:33 <Ballig> yeah
09:40 <Avatar> under performing a combat maneuver
10:09 <Avatar> I don't think it's even unclear
10:26 <Ballig> I think it's unclear
11:06 <Ballig> AOO rules say you have to threaten to get an AOO, but only give specific cases for moving and distracting actions
11:15 <Ballig> combat maneuvre is neither of these
11:35 <Ballig> but if you ignore the threatened part of AOOs (which may or may not apply, depending on interpretation) that suggests that someone wielding a bow could fire at you if you try to disarm him
12:07 <Avatar> combat maneuver, which is what this is, specifically states you get one
12:11 <Avatar> it doesn't say unless you don't threaten the square
12:59 <Ballig> well, it says you provoke, which means you then go back to the AOO rules to determine the ruling on whether someone provokes
13:06 <Ballig> brb
13:15 <Avatar> isn't the point of the AoO on a combat maneuver that they have to put themselves into a more vulnerable area to do a combat maneuver
14:18 <Mekkis>  the point of the AoO is that if someone is trying to grab you, or trip you, or disarm you, or run past you, you can try to injure them and prevent them from doing so
14:31 <Mekkis> oh
14:42 <Mekkis> on that note, I strongly recommend that you buy this PDF:
14:44 <Mekkis> http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?products_id=81817&affiliate_id=9965
15:11 <Ballig> are you the author
15:28 <Mekkis> no
15:36 <Avatar> have you pirated it
15:39 <Mekkis> no
15:40 <Thelen> OH HAI
15:47 <Ballig> this actually sounds exactly what I was just thinking that I need
15:53 <Avatar> thelen, create a separate character sheet that's levelled up to 2
15:59 <Ballig> like 15 minutes ago when searching through AOO, combat manouvres, etc
16:10 <Thelen> for my char?
16:15 <Avatar> yeah
16:18 <Avatar> but keep your level 1 sheet
16:27 <Mekkis> what level 3 spell should my sorcerer take?
16:27 <Thelen> ook
16:27 <Avatar> you'll need the level 1 sheet for shades of ice 1
16:27 <Thelen> why
16:33 <Avatar> and there's a decent chance we might play something before then
16:38 <Thelen> ah
16:42 <Mekkis> haste?
16:47 <Avatar> fly
16:51 <Mekkis> really?
16:55 <Avatar> yeah
16:59 <Mekkis> why?
17:01 <Avatar> it is one of the reasons my wizards are always transmuters
17:06 <Mekkis> so he can cast it 4 times a day
17:13 <Avatar> ye
17:14 <Mekkis> he only gets one third level spell!
17:37 <Ballig> he will always be flying
17:46 <Ballig> Avatar: he's suggesting he needs something he will cast a lot
17:51 <Ballig> Fly is something you take as a scroll
18:03 <Avatar> invis sphere
18:13 <Avatar> haste is probably your best option
18:18 <Avatar> or slow
18:48 <Ballig> fireball
18:49 <Ballig> obv
19:06 <Avatar> how did I forget fireball
19:33 <Ballig> you can be the cause of four TPKs a day
23:10 <Avatar> this sord thing does look pretty good
24:24 <Ballig> I will be buying it
24:47 <Avatar> if I end up using it I'll buy it
27:05 <Ballig> you pirate
27:26 <Avatar> arrrr
28:12 <Avatar> this says a natural roll of 1 is always a miss
30:25 <Avatar>  Ø Some weapons have Critical Hit threat ranges greater than 20. 
30:25 <Avatar>  h The lower range values are not automatic hits (only nat 20).
30:25 <Avatar>  h Rolls less than 20 and within the threat range that do not hit do 
30:25 <Avatar> not threaten a Critical Hit.
30:32 <Avatar> what is this about
30:41 <Mekkis> say you've got a rapier
30:44 <Mekkis> and you roll a 19
30:48 <Mekkis> and your attack bonus is +11
30:55 <Mekkis> and the enemies's AC is 40
30:58 <Mekkis> you don't hit
31:33 <Avatar> you don't critical hit
31:39 <Ballig> you don't hit at all
31:52 <Ballig> assume that this was your first attack roll (not the critical confirmation)
32:01 <Ballig> he uses rapier as an example because its critical threat range is higher than a natural 20
32:08 <Avatar> right
32:24 <Ballig> basically it's saying that natural 20 (automatic hit) and critical threat are two different things
33:52 <Avatar> was that the case in 3.5
34:00 <Mekkis> yes
34:07 <Mekkis> remember in ERNG
34:11 <Avatar> I can't believe I only just found that out
34:25 <Avatar> so a 18 or 19 would be a critical hit or a miss
34:26 <Mekkis> when Squirrel's character threw about 20 daggers at a shark at a -40 attack bonus
34:30 <Ballig> really? you thought that rolling an 18 on a keen rapier would be an auto hit no matter their AC?
34:46 <Avatar> yeah I thought it acted the same as if you rolled a 20
34:54 <Ballig> nup
34:58 <Ballig> natural 20 and critical threat are two different things
35:03 <Avatar> it has to reach their AC on the confirmation
35:16 <Ballig> it also has to reach their AC on the original roll, if it's not a 20
35:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> so the crit range and auto hit is still different for many used weapons?
35:59 <Ballig> Avatar: the critical threat confirmation doesn't have to reach 19/20 again, you just have to reach their AC with that
40:26 <Avatar> Mekkis: I couldn't keep up with the craziness that was happening in ERNG
40:33 <Mekkis> that was the second session
40:47 <Avatar> man the first session we were plunged into an underwater world
41:00 <Avatar> and my plane shift forks became useless
41:15 <Mekkis> What, that Waldo Odlaw was a tyrant who sentenced an entire village of dwarves to the sword?
41:19 <Avatar> all downhills from there
41:38 <Avatar> that was your backstory as well
41:43 <Mekkis> no
41:45 <Mekkis> it was yours
41:57 <Avatar> no, it was the one you gave me after I said I didn't have one
42:03 <Mekkis> I told you that if you didn't come up with one, I'd come up with one...
42:16 <Ballig> seems dodgy
42:18 <Mekkis> you've only yourself to blame :S
42:26 <Ballig> if you don't act in this round of combat, I'll make you jump off a cliff
42:26 <Ballig> :p
42:26 <Avatar> it's not about blame
42:35 <Avatar> the fact is I couldn't keep up with it all
42:48 <Mekkis> except that he had about three weeks to come up with one
43:04 <Avatar> yeah I didn't really want to, it was my choice
43:23 <Mekkis> then you accepted that I'd come up with one for you?
43:26 <Avatar> I took it and ran with it
44:34 <Ballig> Avatar: you should play a high level Wizard (Diviner)
44:39 <Ballig> they get a natural 20 on their initiative rolls
44:52 <Mekkis> and (level/2) to initiative
45:09 <Ballig> so a guaranteed 30 initiative every combat !
45:11 <Ballig> you would be unstoppable
46:18 <Avatar> yeah, by the time I get 3rd level spells, I could cast fly on myself and fly away
47:03 <Ballig> no good if you roll a 1 on initiative
47:07 <Ballig> and everything mobs you before you get to do it
47:20 <Avatar> SORD does a pretty amazing job of simplifying 
47:35 <Avatar> even the coloured headings indicate what type of action it is
47:48 <Mekkis> I said it was worth it, didn't I
48:16 <Ballig> ah you can take a 5 foot step as part of a readied action, that's interesting
48:19 <Ballig> Mekkis: he didn't buy it, he pirated it
48:21 <Ballig> because he's a pirate
48:26 <Mekkis> what a bastard
48:30 <Ballig> I KNOW
49:00 <Mekkis> as long as he buys it when he gets a job, I'm satisfied
49:13 <Avatar> I should do the math on how useful a gun is when shooting things underwater
49:28 <Avatar> 30ft down would probably eliminate the touch benefit
49:39 <Avatar> not even that, maybe 15ft
49:44 <Mekkis> isn't the range increment 5'?
49:58 <Ballig> while underwater orwhile above water shooting things underneath it?
50:03 <Ballig> myth busters did an episode on it
50:03 <Avatar> -2 per 5ft
50:16 <Ballig> the more powerful the gun, the more likely it is the ammunition will shatter on impact with the water
50:30 <Avatar> what kind of guns did they use
50:40 <Ballig> from handguns to assault rifles, I think
50:55 <Ballig> is it just me or is counterspell not very useful
51:02 <Ballig> I think you're better off readying a ranged attack on spellcast
51:07 <Mekkis> it's very situational
51:30 <Avatar> it probably works perfectly if you're playing vs a DM who loves using fireball with his spellcaster
51:37 <Ballig> maybe
51:48 <Mekkis> it's useful in a many-on-one situation where you want to neutralise a spellcaster
51:56 <Mekkis> I tried it in QQ quite a bit
52:11 <Ballig> I think in 3.5 there was a feat that made it a little easier
52:19 <Ballig> where you could counter from the same school, rather than the same spell
52:22 <Avatar> maybe if you have a problem mob who keeps casting invisibility on himself whenever you find him
52:25 <Mekkis> there was a feat /chain/ that made it easier
52:28 <Ballig> but (I think) you had to sacrifice a higher level spell?
52:40 <Mekkis> Improved counterspell
52:40 <Avatar> improved counterspell
52:45 <Mekkis> reactive counterspell
52:45 <Ballig> improved Counterspell
53:46 <Ballig> distracting a spellcaster is Spellcraft and not concentration?
53:53 <Mekkis> ?
54:02 <Mekkis> it is?
54:14 <Avatar> technically the rules allow you to use gauntlets with a gun
54:21 <Ballig> If you damage the spellcaster, he may lose the spell he was trying to 
54:22 <Ballig> cast (as determined by his Spellcraft check result - the DC is 10 + 
54:22 <Ballig> damage + Spell Level).
55:43 <Ballig> seems like an error, the book clearly lists it as a concentration check
00:28 <Mekkis> hmmm
00:34 <Mekkis> third level sorcerer spells...
00:56 <Ballig> are you buying a locked gauntlet, Avatar
01:02 <Mekkis> Jasim had one
01:03 <Mekkis> :S
03:16 <Avatar> Jasim would
03:44 <Mekkis> hehe
03:47 <Mekkis> Explosive Runes!
04:01 <Avatar> what's the rule on if I were to punch someone on an AoO
04:44 <Ballig> can you put explosive runes on a shield
04:57 <Ballig> Avatar: you would need improved unarmed strike, or be "armed"
05:14 <Mekkis> Phantom Steed sounded so much better in the books
06:58 <Brunius> What
07:00 <Ballig> Avatar: you can make an AOO with spiked gauntlets
07:02 <Ballig> not regular or locked gauntlets
07:14 <Avatar> seems like you could still make an unarmed attack but it would only be nonlethal damage?
07:37 <Avatar> yeah having my name pop up on highlight is giving me the shits already
07:58 <Brunius> Someone pinged my name
08:02 <Ballig> it doesn't say you can't wield a weapon and spiked gauntlet at once
08:06 <Ballig> why does not everyone wear spiked gauntlets
08:17 <Brunius> armor check penalty?
08:22 <Mekkis> Your hair animates and extends to grapple and constrict an opponent. 
08:24 <Ballig> [3:31:59 PM] <+Avatar> nobody has a level 1 character
08:24 <Ballig> [3:32:02 PM] <+Ballig> a bit of variety in case he doesn't want to play his fighter
08:25 <Ballig> [3:32:04 PM] <+Ballig> does Thelen
08:25 <Ballig> [3:32:10 PM] <+Ballig> does Brunius
08:25 <Ballig> [3:32:12 PM] <+Avatar> thelen won't after shades of ice 1
08:25 <Ballig> [3:32:18 PM] <+Avatar> brunius does 
08:25 <Brunius> Doesn't fit the flavour of their character?
08:38 <Ballig> Mekkis: what if you are playing a completely hairless character
08:48 <Ballig> Brunius: it's not armour, it's a weapon
08:50 <Brunius> I have a couple of level 1 characters
09:00 <Brunius> Is it martial?
09:02 <Ballig> it's simple
09:09 <Ballig> light simple weapon
09:09 <Brunius> No clue then
09:12 <Ballig> no ACP listed
09:26 <Ballig> weighs 1 pound
09:35 <Ballig> counts you as armed
09:35 <Avatar> I only see gauntlet, where do you add spikes
09:43 <Ballig> it's a separate item under the weapons table
09:47 <Ballig> gauntlet, spiked
10:00 <Ballig> a regular gauntlet doesn't count you as armed
10:20 <Jaggedsoul> I have a question: what if I play a human that's 3' tall (or short, for that matter)?
10:30 <Ballig> then you aren't a human
10:46 <Ballig> you're a dwarf :p
10:54 <Jaggedsoul> in the real world, there are humans less than 3 feet. :)
11:02 <Ballig> they're dwarves
12:32 <Mekkis> or halflings
12:53 <Mekkis> oh, and John kills you :)
12:59 <Brunius> Yeah
13:12 <Brunius> Why does John hate small characters so much?
13:24 <Mekkis> ask him
13:36 <Mekkis> tell him I sent you
13:57 <Brunius> Is this going to get me killed or yelled at?
13:58 <Mekkis> mention that you play them a lot
14:07 <Mekkis> and tell him Taldor sucks
14:25 <Brunius> Taldor is great man
15:55 <Avatar> he has a pretty funny answer to it 
15:58 <Ballig> Jaggedsoul: to be a completely legal character, a human (female) can be minimum 4'7"
28:33 <Mekkis> I want to play First Steps 3 with him DMing
29:11 <Avatar> I wouldn't mind trying to play first steps 2 with a brand new level 1'er
29:23 <Mekkis> it's on my list
29:50 <Ballig> first steps is a great way to see how much you like a class
29:53 <Ballig> because you aren't "wasting a scenario"
30:09 <Avatar> yeah
30:50 <Avatar> probably good for practise DMs too
35:09 <Ballig> Avatar wanting to Zone of Truth Lady Riverbane reminded me of in WLD
35:21 <Ballig> when he tried to use his helm of telepathy to read some elven leader's mind
38:15 <Avatar> yeah
38:31 <Avatar> that's what stopped me in my tracks today
38:44 <Ballig> yeah
38:50 <Ballig> it could be useful when interrogating a prisoner
38:55 <Ballig> "Answer our questions straight or die"
38:56 <Avatar> well I lie, it was that as well as the fact she didn't even have to answer truthfully
39:02 <Ballig> but not necessarily when someone has the option to simply not respond
39:07 <Avatar> yeah
39:13 <Ballig> she has to answer truthfully
39:17 <Ballig> but she's not compelled to say anything at all
39:23 <Ballig> and she's aware of the effect
39:24 <Avatar> I do wonder what would happen if an npc used that on us
39:28 <Ballig> ha
39:33 <Ballig> we already have that, practically
39:38 <Ballig> it's called "roll your bluff check"
40:10 <Avatar> but I mean
40:19 <Ballig> interesting, you can use coup de grace on a "totally concealed" (e.g. invisible) creature
40:22 <Ballig> it just takes 2 rounds instead of 1
40:27 <Avatar> would we get to know 'the npc has casted a spell forcing you to answer truthfully with anything you say'
40:36 <Ballig> if it's zone of truth, yes
40:40 <Ballig> it specifically says you are aware of the effect
41:01 <Avatar> that could just mean aware that some sort of mind affecting thing is happening
41:15 <Ballig> no you are always aware of that anyway I believe
41:19 <Ballig> it says aware of the /effect/
41:55 <Ballig> okay it uses the word enchantment
42:03 <Ballig> probably shouldn't emphasize a word when it's the wrong word
42:20 <Ballig> ffected 
42:20 <Ballig> creatures are aware of this enchantment. Therefore, they may 
42:20 <Ballig> avoid answering questions to which they would normally respond 
42:20 <Ballig> with a lie, or they may be evasive as long as they remain within the 
42:20 <Ballig> boundaries of the truth.
43:21 <Avatar> this copy of SORD still has open lock
43:38 <Avatar> oh, scratch that
44:00 <Ballig> ha
44:12 <Ballig> ah there we go, it is possible to attack the ground with a splash weapon
44:14 <Ballig> that's what I thought
44:20 <Ballig> but it only does splash damage to the things around it
49:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> hmm...
49:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> anyone here got or read the inner sea magic book/pdf?
49:41 <Brunius> I have the illegal pdf
49:42 <Brunius> Why?
49:58 <Avatar> yeah I have the illegal pdf also
49:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> what do you think about dawnflower dervish bard archetype?
50:14 <Brunius> Haven't seen it
50:19 <Ballig> are you both pirates
50:21 <Brunius> I only dled it today
50:23 <Avatar> there are archetypes in there?
50:28 <Brunius> I'm seeing if it's worth it Ballig
50:28 <Ballig> I'm sorry, I can't associate with pirates
50:31 <Brunius> Ha
50:35 <Ballig> talk to the hand!
50:37 <Spaceshot_tm2> yep
50:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> there are archetypes for all casters
50:52 <Avatar> but in that book
50:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> yup
50:56 Jaggedsoul is now known as hand
51:01 <hand> yes?
51:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> even ranger and pally
51:05 <Avatar> hi hand
51:08 <Ballig> a far more nerdy joke would have been
51:08 <Avatar> sup
51:10 Ballig is now known as NedStark
51:11 <NedStark> yes?
51:19 <Avatar> nobody gets that joke
51:20 NedStark is now known as Ballig
51:23 <Ballig> you should
51:30 hand is now known as Jaggedsoul
51:35 <Avatar> Jaggedsoul did it better than you did
51:46 <Ballig> Ned Stark is the Hand of the King in a Game of Thrones
51:51 <Ballig> of which you have seen the TV series version
51:58 <Avatar> Spaceshot_tm2: what page
52:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> use the bookmarks
52:18 <Avatar> I am, I don't see it
52:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> under spellcasters of the inner sea
52:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> then archetypes > bard > dawnflower
53:06 <Avatar> I don't see that either
53:10 <Avatar> what page?
53:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> 34 for dawnflower
53:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> also, they are there alphabetical by archetype name, not class name it's for
54:18 <Avatar> are we talking about the same book
54:26 <Avatar> inner sea world guide?
54:38 <Avatar> inner sea magic
54:45 <Avatar> I don't have magic
54:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> I said magic
54:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
55:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> this skimmer
55:11 <Avatar> how many inner sea books are there
55:17 <Brunius> I dunno
55:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> at least 2
55:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> magic and world guide
55:23 <Avatar> at least 2
55:28 <Avatar> well done
55:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> I gave you more than I don't know
55:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> and less than the absolute number
56:29 <Avatar> I've managed to get a cold
57:31 <Spaceshot_tm2> good success
57:53 <Spaceshot_tm2> also... is there a game tonight? if so what tier or is it a carry over?
58:12 <Avatar> we're continuing the game from last night/this morning, tonight
58:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> ahh
58:25 <Spaceshot_tm2> FUCK YOU GUYS THEN
58:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> nah I'll live
58:37 <Jaggedsoul> me too
01:09 <Avatar> we can set up a game tomorrow
01:12 <Avatar> or one of you jokers can DM
01:33 <Avatar> where is brunius
01:43 <Brunius> Here
01:46 <Brunius> It went flashy
01:50 <Avatar> tomorrow is a prime time for you to DM if you want to
01:51 <Brunius> Although the sound didn't work
02:02 <Avatar> yeah forget the sound man you won't want that
02:16 <Brunius> There we go
02:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> heh
02:19 <Brunius> Sounds should work now
02:31 <Avatar> are you good to DM tomorrow
02:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm good before 3 my time
02:41 <Brunius> I've got a 1-5 scenario prepped
02:50 <Brunius> If you guys wanna play
02:52 <Avatar> what time do you all want to play
03:08 <Ballig> aren't we meant to play right now
03:16 <Avatar> 7-8pm today
03:17 <Brunius> Yep
03:20 <Avatar> it wasn't on the dot
03:22 <Brunius> Where are you Mekkis
03:35 <Avatar> Spaceshot: can you play a 10 or 11am game
04:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> what time is that here?
04:11 <Ballig> that's 10 or 11am Melbourne time
04:17 <Ballig> so 9.30 or 10.30
04:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> are you using the 30mins ahead time or 30mins before time
04:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> gotcha
04:43 <Avatar> what's the earliest you are good to play 
04:47 <Avatar> we usually do morning games
04:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> I could do that
05:05 <Avatar> brunius what do you prefer
05:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> I could do 9:30
05:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> if you really want me to
05:16 <Brunius> You guys (or probably just avatar) will probably have to wake me up for one of those timeslots though
05:31 <Avatar> as long as you're okay with being woken up for it
05:32 <Brunius> Staying up until 2am doesn't lend itself to 10am games
05:55 <Avatar> is 11am okay
05:59 <Brunius> Either is fine
06:12 <Brunius> As long as you understand if I'm not there you'll have to wake me up
06:23 <Avatar> do you have an alarm :P
06:25 <Brunius> and I might be late even after that
06:25 <Brunius> Yes
06:29 <Avatar> doesn't it wake you up
06:30 <Brunius> I have two alarms set
06:33 <Brunius> They both failed
06:44 <Brunius> I suppose I could set the extremely annoying DS alarm
06:48 <Avatar> I don't mind hassling you to get in as long as you're trying something else I guess
07:06 <Avatar> I mind hassling someone and not having them respond to anything
07:24 <Avatar> we'll set it at 10am
07:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> now I have to make a dawnflower dervish?
07:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh man
07:32 <Avatar> yeah, before 10am 
07:39 <Avatar> you can just use a pregen bard
07:43 <Brunius> Levels available will be 1-5
07:47 <Avatar> `op
07:47 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
08:31 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Wed 28th 10am (Brunius, new game) / Thu 29th 10am (Avatar, in progress) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
10:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> does CoTE even happen? :P
11:10 <Avatar> we're waiting on one of the players to get back
11:27 <Ballig> it's on hold waiting for canine
11:31 <Ballig> he's away on holidays
13:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> ahh
14:52 <Brunius> Gonna have to reschedule this game guys
14:58 <Brunius> Friday?
15:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> ?? wha?
15:29 <Ballig> why are you rescheduling by two days
15:54 Avatar has changed the topic to: PFS: Fri 30th 10am (Brunius, new game) / Thu 29th 10am (Avatar, in progress) | CoTE: Sun Jan 8th 10am || All times AEDT (UTC+11:00), CONFIRM YOUR ATTENDANCE | http://dnd.ballig.net/newbie_guide.htm
16:17 <Brunius> Because you've already got a game running tomorrow
16:27 <Brunius> Not tomorrow
16:30 <Brunius> Thursday
16:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> so?
16:43 <Brunius> And Dad's decided that I have to do something off the computer tomorrow
16:56 <Spaceshot_tm2> see, that is the proper answer
16:58 <Ballig> why
17:05 <Avatar> because he's a parent
17:17 <Ballig> I bet you he'd be fine if you decided to watch TV all day
17:24 <Avatar> probably
17:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> haha
17:29 <Brunius> Ha
17:32 <Avatar> my dad tried to make me do that once
17:39 <Ballig> "at least he's not playing the computer! ha ha!" "yeah, at least he's sitting there watching something passive all day instead of actively thinking about things. sure."
17:47 <Avatar> dumbest logic
17:55 <Brunius> I wonder how hard it would be to get a version of CA that works on the Wii
18:00 <Brunius> Oh crap
18:02 <Avatar> haha
18:09 <Brunius> I'm gonna have to figure out my CA issues
18:16 <Ballig> what issues
18:17 <Brunius> Is that tunnel still up Mekkis?
18:20 <Ballig> oh, hosting
18:23 <Ballig> hack into your router
18:28 <Ballig> what router do you use
18:39 <Brunius> The router internode gave us
18:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> what? do I have to get ipv6 working?
18:48 <Brunius> Open something
18:54 <Brunius> Nope Spaceshot_tm2
19:05 <Ballig> figure out the manufacturer/brand of the router
19:07 <Ballig> I'll tell you how to hack it
20:28 <Brunius> Probably not that easy Ballig
20:34 <Brunius> It hasn't got the default password
20:39 <Brunius> (I've tried that)
20:46 <Ballig> did you try the correct default password
20:54 <Ballig> hard reset the router
20:57 <Ballig> then it will have the default password
20:58 <Brunius> No.
21:18 <Ballig> is anyone in your family computer savvy
21:37 <Brunius> My dad is a Unix systems engineer for Coles.
21:39 <Brunius> What do you think.
21:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> for coles? I dunno
22:01 <Ballig> well, it's Coles, so no
22:07 <Avatar> I have a theory that people lose almost all logic when they become parents
22:14 <Ballig> when you said your dad worked for Coles I assumed he was a checkout chick
22:17 <Ballig> like Gebannus was
22:25 <Avatar> I was a checkout chick
22:33 <Ballig> before my time, I think
22:36 <Ballig> like maybe JUST before I met you
22:37 <Avatar> yeap
22:43 <Avatar> uh
22:46 <Avatar> actually it probably wasn't
22:48 <Ballig> were you working as a telemarketer in Brisbane?
22:59 <Avatar> only since uh
23:04 <Brunius> It's great having a silent number.
23:07 <Avatar> july 2003
23:09 <Brunius> You never get Avatar calling you
23:12 <Avatar> before that I was at coles
23:13 <Ballig> silent numbers don't prevent telemarketers
23:17 <Ballig> they cold-call numbers that aren't listed
23:22 <Avatar> I didn't make any outbound calls
23:26 <Ballig> so say your number 9999 1110
23:27 <Avatar> I wasn't actually a telemarketer
23:30 <Avatar> ballig just likes saying that
23:33 <Ballig> they will simply call all numbers between 9999 0000 and 9999 9999
23:36 <Ballig> and you will be called, even if it's silent
23:47 <Brunius> I know
23:57 <Brunius> Our last call like that was about 6 years ago
23:57 <Ballig> it's the no-call list that prevents the telemarketers
24:05 <Ballig> yeah they added the no-call list about six yeras ago
24:06 <Ballig> years
24:10 <Brunius> Did they?
24:15 <Ballig> yeah
24:19 <Ballig> the only exceptions are, I think, charities
25:01 <Avatar> we might actually have enough players to start some regular night games in here
25:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> yay
25:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'd still prefer to play one of my rpgs soon on a weeknight
26:18 <Brunius> eye is actually quite good
26:35 <Ballig> it's OK
26:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> tis
26:45 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's good
26:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> it could be more of an invasion in invasion mode
26:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> but that's about all I can really complain about
27:03 <Brunius> Man, trust my trains to fuck up the minute I stop watching
27:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> lol trains
27:33 <Ballig> did you get trains for christmas
28:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> also, pathfinder's kit in the field guide is a bit odd
28:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> 50ft of string and 50ft of thread, but no rope
28:12 <Ballig> why
28:29 <Brunius> Nope
28:31 <Brunius> OpenTTD
28:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> I have no idea
28:43 <Brunius> Trains are the most efficient method of transport
29:00 <Brunius> Until you screw something up and they all stop because they can't find a free path
29:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> ??
29:43 <Brunius> You watch yogscast?
30:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope
30:15 Jaggedsoul has quit (Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client)
31:07 <Brunius> They did a section on it
31:16 <Brunius> Basically you start out with a $200 000 loan
31:23 <Brunius> And have to build a transport empire
31:27 <Brunius> By transporting stuff
39:25 <Avatar> Brunius are you doing a first steps scenario on friday
39:34 <Brunius> I wasn't planning to
39:35 <Brunius> Why?
39:37 <Avatar> you said 1-5 didn't you
39:44 <Avatar> might try drag someone else in
40:09 <Brunius> 1-5, yeah
40:16 <Brunius> I'll be running Beggar's Pearl
41:04 <Thelen> Brunius love OpenTTD :D
42:08 <Thelen> hate yogs though
42:10 <Thelen> they are morons
42:15 <Ballig> your face is
42:15 <Thelen> especially the girl that squels
42:30 <Ballig> is she trying to be a cutesy anime girl
42:35 <Thelen> no
42:37 <Thelen> shes a he
42:42 <Thelen> and hes a complete idiot
42:45 <Thelen> that squels
42:47 <Thelen> squeels
42:48 <Ballig> is he trying to be a cutesy anime girl
42:50 <Brunius> Simon?
42:50 <Thelen> no
42:53 <Thelen> he's just a retard
42:58 <Thelen> yea probably simon
43:01 <Thelen> idk his name
43:04 <Thelen> i dun watch it
43:09 <Ballig> I think it's secretly Brunius
43:10 <Brunius> Me neither
43:11 <Thelen> just previously heard flatmate watch it
43:16 <Brunius> All my friends watch it and
43:24 <Brunius> I'm just like "Really?"
43:25 <Thelen> but since few months he now has to use headphones >_>
44:51 <Ballig> did you threaten to kill him
44:55 <Thelen> yea
46:38 <Ballig> Mekkis: you here?
48:45 <Brunius> Simon.
48:51 <Brunius> And Hannah.
48:56 <Brunius> Dem people on yogscast.
49:19 <Ballig> so Hannah is a real girl and Simon is a squeely man-girl?
49:42 <Brunius> Possibly.
51:19 <Avatar> I think I've just convinced a friend to try pathfinder
51:29 <Avatar> finally
53:15 <Ballig> haha
53:16 <Ballig> is it Icey
53:28 <Avatar> no, you don't know her
53:34 <Ballig> are you sure
53:38 <Avatar> positive
53:41 <Ballig> what's her name
53:44 <Ballig> and/or nick
53:48 <Avatar> you'll find out if she comes in
53:52 <Ballig> what's her nick
54:18 <Ballig> you brought a friend in here before, is it the same girl
54:24 <Avatar> no
54:27 <Avatar> lunachyld isn't coming back
55:02 <Ballig> that wasn't her
55:09 <Avatar> no, that's someone else
55:39 <Avatar> it's occurred to me that if we play games over skype, and a newbie is watching, they will almost certainly get a worse impression of the game
56:04 <Ballig> I keep that in mind
56:14 <Ballig> most of them already assume we're using skype
56:38 <Avatar> that doesn't change the impression they'd get by trying to watch it
56:53 <Ballig> it would mitigate it
56:57 <Ballig> they would probably become curious
57:02 <Ballig> "wow, I wonder what they're talking about on skype"
57:11 <Avatar> I think that is wishful thinking
57:18 <Avatar> they might, but I very very much doubt it
57:59 <Ballig> as man
58:00 <Ballig> er, as if man
58:05 <Ballig> where is Mekkis aren't we playing now
58:17 <Spaceshot_tm2> you'd think so
58:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> since it's 7-8pm start
58:29 <Avatar> smsing
58:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> you even gave him an hr leway
03:30 <Avatar> no reply
03:41 <Ballig> yeah his place doesn't get reception
03:42 <Avatar> I guess I wasn't really expecting one
03:45 <Avatar> oh yeah
03:55 <Avatar> why bother ever trying to get a hold of him by phone 
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05:55 <Avatar> well done
05:59 <alicemalice> thx
06:02 <alicemalice> ^_^
06:06 <alicemalice> now i have to go read that link
06:11 <Ballig> is this the girl you said you like
06:14 <Avatar> YEP
06:21 <alicemalice> lolz
06:43 <Ballig> it's funny because you don't know if I'm joking
06:43 <alicemalice> he invites random girls around to try and make me jealous
07:09 <Avatar> she's talking about lunachyld, actually
07:17 <Ballig> I don't even know who that is
07:26 <Ballig> I think that's a girl you made up
07:26 <Avatar> we were talking about her 10 minutes before you came in
07:26 <Ballig> probably to make alicemalice jealous
07:26 <alicemalice> lmao
07:44 <alicemalice> yeah probably
08:31 <Ballig> alicemalice: are you hot
09:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> btw, ballig is a creeper
09:17 <Ballig> yep
09:26 <alicemalice> oh yes
09:54 <alicemalice> all the other 55 year old women are jealous because I'm the only one that doesn't have those curly little grey hairs on my chin
10:46 <Avatar> cmon mekkissssss 
10:52 <Avatar> I reckon he will be back at 9
11:04 <Avatar> I'd start taking bets if it wasn't so easily rigged
11:08 <Ballig> yeah
11:10 <Ballig> it's pretty obvious
11:20 <Ballig> alicemalice: you sound like my perfect woman
11:23 <Ballig> wanna make out?
12:12 <alicemalice> well, tell me a bit about yourself first and then we'll see
12:28 <Avatar> yeah ballig tell us a bit about yourself
13:01 <Ballig> I'm 18, ripped, and I fight bears for a living
13:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> he does sound young over mic
13:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'll give you that
13:44 <alicemalice> what species of bear?
13:51 <Ballig> brown bears, mostly
14:11 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: I was about to say you've never heard me over mic, but that's not true
14:21 <Ballig> that's just because you've never played any sweet PFS with us
14:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
14:25 <Thelen> ah
16:18 <Ballig> apparently someone had difficulty differentiating me from Avatar over skype at some point
16:22 <Brunius> I did
16:23 <Ballig> I forget who that was, but they were clearly on drugs
16:25 <Ballig> oh
16:25 <Brunius> I don't know
16:27 <Ballig> you were clearly on drugs
16:28 <Brunius> now rather
16:33 <Brunius> Clearly.
16:40 <Ballig> although what is hilarious is when we have new people like Thelen or Tristen
16:41 <Brunius> Ventolin, at the time.
16:44 <Ballig> who think I am Avatar, while he's GMing a game
16:47 <Brunius> Ha
16:50 <Avatar> what
17:02 <Ballig> when Tristen or Thelen think it's you talking when I say something on skype
17:08 <Ballig> so they start rolling dice and are like "you told me to do it"
17:10 <Avatar> we sound nothing alike
17:13 <Ballig> "...no, that was Ballig, don't listen to Ballig"
17:15 <Ballig> no, I know we don't
17:18 <Ballig> Brunius was on crack
17:23 <Brunius> Dude
17:38 <Brunius> If I bought crack, my school would probably be the perfect place to do it.
17:42 <Brunius> Nobody suspects.
17:49 <Brunius> And it's in Box Hill
17:55 <Ballig> are so many people doing crack there that no one woul dknow
18:07 <Brunius> People got killed a couple of months ago over crack in Box Hill
18:39 <Ballig> :O
20:02 <Brunius> In the Centro.
20:18 <Brunius> And I was like "Shit, do I go to school tomorrow or will I get brutally murdered"
22:59 <snypt> who pings me?
23:10 <Brunius> I dunno, snypt
23:24 <snypt> stupid xchat doesnt go back far enough to see you crazys talking about me
23:40 <Brunius> Windows or Linux version?
24:28 <Ballig> [3:27:14 PM] <+Avatar> we could run another game tomorrow
24:28 <Ballig> [3:27:28 PM] <+Avatar> I don't have a new one prepped yet
24:29 <Ballig> [3:27:34 PM] <+Avatar> not sure if ballig or brunius do
24:29 <Ballig> [3:27:52 PM] <+Avatar> I've bought a book I could run for everyone except snypt/mekkis
24:29 <Ballig> [3:28:00 PM] <+Avatar> which I've actually played
24:30 <Ballig> that wasn't very far back
24:54 <Avatar> it's frostfur captives
25:02 <Ballig> haven't I played that
25:02 <Brunius> Yo alicemalice
25:04 <Brunius> Where you from?
25:44 <Avatar> it's pretty good, but I've had no preparation
25:54 <Avatar> at least I've played it recently
26:22 <Ballig> yeah
26:28 <Ballig> just figure out map offsets
26:29 <Ballig> bam, you're golden
26:44 <snypt> ah th anks
26:45 <Brunius> Man I need to figure that out for friday don't I
26:47 <snypt> thanks
26:54 <snypt> frostfur was pretty good
26:56 <Avatar> the DM who ran it seemed to panic a bit when she was starting to run it
27:06 <Brunius> snypt you wanna play some PFS friday?
27:10 <Avatar> like she was sure we would die
27:16 <snypt> what time?
27:22 <Brunius> 10am
27:33 <Brunius> Or probably closer to 10:30
27:34 <Ballig> are you trying to convince us to play it
27:35 <Ballig> or not
27:48 <Avatar> I don't think we were at any real risk
27:50 <snypt> 10am o.0
27:55 <Avatar> she made a point to warn us about what cold weather outfits do
28:04 <Ballig> oh
28:05 <snypt> who is playing
28:06 <Avatar> which we wouldn't have looked at 
28:07 <Ballig> so just make sure to bring Samsuhn
28:10 <Ballig> with his wand of endure elements
28:24 <Avatar> no it's set in a desert environment
28:28 <Avatar> it's a weird one
28:30 <Ballig> so?
28:32 <Brunius> Dunno, snypt
28:39 <Avatar> well endure elements doesn't work
28:40 <Ballig> why does it matter if it's in a desert
28:41 <Brunius> It's PFS so it's variable
28:43 <Ballig> how doesn't it
28:47 <Brunius> Probably Ballig, Avatar at least
28:47 <Avatar> I can't say
28:51 <Ballig> er
28:58 <Ballig> if cold weather outfit works
28:59 <Brunius> Anyone else with a character of the appropriate level
28:59 <Ballig> endure element works
29:02 <Avatar> I've said too much already
29:08 <Ballig> if it doesn't, they are going out of their way to fuck people over who prepare in the "wrong" way
29:18 <Avatar> yeah well, you said that about tide of twilight
29:29 <Ballig> then why play a game that goes out of its way to fuck you
29:43 <Ballig> basically you're saying "never play this scenario"
30:09 <Avatar> it's a good scenario
30:21 <Avatar> you're just making assumptions to death like you usually do
30:34 <Ballig> they seem pretty legitimate if you just compared it to one fo the worst scenarios ever
30:46 <Avatar> you're putting words in my mouth now
31:09 <Ballig> "He seems like a madman." "You said that about Hitler." "Er... are you saying he's NOT a madman or that he is?"
31:23 <Avatar> this discussion
31:25 <Avatar> is over
31:29 <Ballig> this discussion
31:30 <Ballig> is over
32:15 <alicemalice> jerky
32:48 <Ballig> he sure is, alicemalice. he sure is
32:49 <alicemalice> youre being jerky
32:58 <Avatar> I think she meant you
32:59 <Brunius> Ballig is always a jerk
33:07 <Ballig> I am the resident jerk
33:27 <alicemalice> yes.
33:31 <alicemalice> thats what i was getting at
33:32 <Brunius> Man do you usually have to put the maps together in GIMP before you put them together in CA?
33:38 <alicemalice> it certainly appears that way, at least
33:47 <Ballig> Brunius: define "put together"
33:50 <Thelen> hey Mekkis i got whmcs setup again, wanna make an account and start paying for the vps? :D
33:59 <snypt> no
34:03 <snypt> ballig is a wanker
34:05 <Brunius> There are like 8 images that make up the one map
34:08 <Ballig> snypt is a jerk
34:10 <Avatar> haha
34:21 <Ballig> Brunius: what are the other images
34:37 <Avatar> alicemalice: Ballig calls everyone jerks
34:41 <Avatar> so that's very appropriate
34:46 <Brunius> What do you mean Ballig
34:49 <Mekkis> sorry, I got held up
34:52 <Mekkis> and sure Thelen 
34:54 <Ballig> well, usually you just use the "background" image
34:56 <Mekkis> PM me the details
35:13 <Brunius> It's split into little sections
35:13 <Ballig> but there are images overlayed
35:13 <Brunius> No not overlaid images
35:13 <Brunius> Like it's cut up
35:15 <Ballig> oh, if it's per room, then you can either do the entire level and just b lock out other rooms
35:19 <Ballig> or you can cut it up into individual images
35:22 <Ballig> depends on how big they are
35:27 <alicemalice> idk for some reason im imagining everything said by ballig in comic book guy's voice
35:28 <Brunius> I'm pasting individual images together
35:39 <Ballig> alicemalice: I prefer Loud Howard from Dilbert
35:41 <Avatar> yeah he has a sort of comic book guy's voice
35:44 <Mekkis> are we able to start soon?
35:49 <Ballig> I'm happy to start now
35:51 <Avatar> oh, really
35:53 <Avatar> are we able to start soon
35:56 <Avatar> how about 90 minutes ago
36:04 <Avatar> where have you been
36:04 <Ballig> ha
36:04 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> sorry, I got held up
36:13 <Mekkis> answering support calls
36:14 <Avatar> I don't know that that's good enough !
36:19 <Avatar> yeah ok
36:21 <Avatar> let's go
36:28 <alicemalice> literally held up? because thatd be an interesting story
36:29 Avatar is now known as Buck
36:32 Ballig is now known as Bobbob
36:34 <Mekkis> some till at Yorketown didn't add up
36:36 <Bobbob> call to you failed Mekkis
36:42 <Buck> probably
36:55 <Buck> do we have to skype
37:04 <Mekkis> not if you don't want to...
37:10 <Buck> not particularly
37:18 <Mekkis> slright
37:23 <Mekkis> you defeat the ettercaps
37:35 <Bobbob> stupid ettercaps
37:36 <Buck> the what
37:39 * ChanOP removes channel operator status from Buck
37:47 <Brunius> The things we thought were spiders
37:48 <Buck> what are ettercaps
37:50 Brunius is now known as Kaleb
37:52 <Bobbob> can we do perception checks on the roof
37:55 <Mekkis> the creatures you defeated
37:56 <Mekkis> sure
38:00 <Mekkis> roll them
38:02 <Buck> @see
38:02 <diebot> Buck, perception: [1d20=3] 11
38:03 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
38:03 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=16] 17
38:08 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 kyra perception
38:08 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra perception: [1d20=4] 8
38:18 <Kaleb> @see
38:18 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=9] 18
38:37 <Bobbob> also I go pick up my shield
38:43 <Kaleb> Ha
38:50 <Kaleb> the compass on this map is gonna screw you guys over
39:03 <Bobbob> (and wield it)
39:17 <Mekkis> Dimly illuminated by green flames, the roof is rough-hewn stone and web-covered
39:28 <Bobbob> how high up is it
39:34 <Mekkis> 40'
39:50 <Bobbob> anything living up there that we can see
39:52 <Bobbob> spiders, maybe
39:57 <Kaleb> Ettercaps?
40:00 <Bobbob> kyra will cast detect magic and check the roof
40:03 <Bobbob> she will then scan around the room
40:06 <Bobbob> checking the webs with detect magic
40:06 <Mekkis> not to your knowledge
40:07 <Mekkis> ok
40:32 <Buck> can you explain these ettercaps to su
40:34 <Buck> us*
40:42 <Bobbob> are any of us not on full health
40:49 <Kaleb> They have poison attacks :#
40:51 <Kaleb> :3
40:52 <Buck> I'm on 25/25
40:57 <Kaleb> I've got my stupid dex damage
41:11 <Buck> yeah use lesser restoration 
41:12 <Bobbob> uhm
41:19 <Bobbob> kyra will use her scroll of lesser restoration on kaleb
41:21 <Bobbob> or
41:23 <Bobbob> do you want the potion
41:26 <Buck> maybe you could have used that potion you drunk earlier
41:28 <Kaleb> Use the potion
41:31 <Buck> for no good reason
41:37 <Kaleb> It was tasty, at least
41:39 <Bobbob> well
41:41 <Mekkis> an ettercap is an extraplanar humanoid-shaped webspinner with clawed hands and a poisonous bite
41:42 <Mekkis> oh
41:43 <Mekkis> Kaleb, 
41:48 <Mekkis> make a fortitude save
41:52 <Kaleb> @fort
41:53 <diebot> Kaleb, Fortitude: [1d20=20] 23
41:53 <Buck> oh, it's like a spider then
41:57 <Mekkis> okay
42:24 <Bobbob> is it worth delaying his poisoN?
42:29 <Bobbob> can kyra do a heal check to check on the poison?
42:33 <Bobbob> maybe get an idea of what he's poisoned with
42:34 <Buck> er, I thought he cured it
42:36 <Bobbob> how much damage it might still do
42:43 <Bobbob> why did you think he cured it
42:47 <Buck> I don't know
42:51 <Buck> we'll do heal checks to see if it's cured?
42:52 <Mekkis> sure
42:53 <Bobbob> most poisons require two successful saves
43:00 <Bobbob> she will take 10
43:02 <Bobbob> for a total of 21
43:04 <Mekkis> what's the score
43:05 <Mekkis> ok
43:10 <Mekkis> she thinks that he's cured
43:11 <Buck> can I take 10 on aiding
43:14 <Mekkis> no
43:17 <Bobbob> does she know what the poison was
43:20 <Mekkis> you can't take 10 on aiding
43:23 <Mekkis> no
43:27 <Bobbob> okay
43:28 <Buck> !throw 1d20+7 heal
43:29 <diebot> Buck, heal: [1d20=15] 22
43:32 <Mekkis> but she assume's it's ettercap poison
43:37 <Bobbob> yeah
43:37 <Mekkis> -'
43:46 <Buck> are you serious, that's all we could tell
43:47 <Bobbob> she'll use her scroll of lesser restoration on Kaleb
43:50 <Buck> is he stil poisoned
43:52 <Mekkis> ok
43:55 <Mekkis> 18 seconds later
43:55 <Buck> ettercap poison
43:56 <Bobbob> !throw 1d4
43:56 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d4: [1d4=3] 3
43:58 <Buck> like we couldn't guess that
44:09 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> she thinks that he's cured
44:16 <Buck> that's like going to the doctor with a cold and having them check you out and say hmmm, my diagnosis is you have a cold
44:24 <Mekkis> yeah
44:27 <Bobbob> that's actually what a doctor would say
44:31 <Mekkis> but they give you a medical certificate
44:35 <Bobbob> haha
44:41 <Buck> what a disaster this is
44:42 <Kaleb>  I think it's more like "My diagnosis is you are sick"
44:42 <Mekkis> that says that you're suffering from "a medical condition"
44:45 <Bobbob> some doctors will give people medical certificates for /anything/
44:47 <Buck> okay
44:47 <Bobbob> I work in HR, it annoys me
45:01 <Bobbob> does Kaleb restore 3 dex?
45:09 <Mekkis> If you recall, you saw a glint of gold at X22
45:10 <Mekkis> yes
45:14 <Bobbob> yeah
45:16 <Kaleb> So I'm on 16
45:17 <Bobbob> we'll search southeast web
45:25 <Bobbob> let's do it all separately
45:28 <Kaleb> That's +3?
45:30 <Buck> it's probably worth burning the other lesser restore
45:37 <Buck> you're still down -2 dex aren't you
45:39 <Bobbob> yeah you restored 3 dex from the scroll
45:41 <Kaleb> yeah
45:45 <Kaleb> still down -3
45:49 <Kaleb> -2 rather
45:50 <Mekkis> the web seems to be more designed for strength than stickyness
45:53 <Bobbob> he has two potions that are probably lesser restoration
45:56 <Buck> up to you
46:09 <Kaleb> I drink one of the potions we picked up that is labelled in Osiriani
46:13 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception on web
46:13 <diebot> Bobbob, perception on web: [1d20=16] 17
46:19 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 kyra perception on web
46:19 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra perception on web: [1d20=7] 11
46:24 <Kaleb> @see
46:24 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=9] 18
46:28 <Kaleb> (At the web)
46:47 <Mekkis> where are you standing?
46:56 <Buck> can we aid each other's checks for perception
47:05 <Bobbob> the webs around where we saw the glint
47:09 <Bobbob> Buck: we decided not to
47:12 <Kaleb> That has to be declared beforehand, doesn't it Buck?
47:14 <Buck> that was before we were ambushed
47:18 <Bobbob> no I mean right now
47:20 <Bobbob> we decided not to
47:23 <Bobbob> I specifically said we weren't
47:31 <Mekkis> you see several bodies, and a glittering sword
47:36 <Mekkis> and possible some coins and gems
47:44 <Bobbob> "Oh, now that seems like a trap."
47:45 <Kaleb> I approach carefully
47:51 <Mekkis> ok
47:57 <Kaleb> Checking for traps
47:59 <Kaleb> Actively
48:29 <Mekkis> roll it
48:40 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+11 Trapsearching
48:40 <diebot> Kaleb, Trapsearching: [1d20=9] 20
48:45 <Bobbob> good1
48:56 <Buck> I like how you have your attacks on a saved roll, but not your trapfinding
48:58 <Mekkis> you don't find any traps
49:05 <Bobbob> (that was my failed attempt at an internet "good one", not a "good!")
49:06 <Kaleb> 3/4 of my last 4 rolls have been 9s
49:16 <Buck> better than 1s
49:28 <Bobbob> so I want to test one of these webs with my glaive
49:35 <Bobbob> do they slice up like a normal web
49:37 <Bobbob> do they damage the glaive
49:45 <Mekkis> they slice up
49:47 <Kaleb> Alright, I keep moving towards this glittery stuff, slowly, using my collapsible plank like a 10ft pole
49:58 <Mekkis> hmmm
50:01 <Bobbob> I'll slice around webs
50:02 <Mekkis> roll perception
50:04 <Bobbob> and go with Kaleb
50:08 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+1 perception
50:09 <diebot> Bobbob, perception: [1d20=3] 4
50:10 <Bobbob> woo
50:13 <Kaleb> Everyone?
50:15 <Mekkis> Kaleb
50:16 <Buck> I'm standing on alert while these jokers are searching the area
50:17 <Mekkis> just Kaleb 
50:19 <Kaleb> @see
50:20 <diebot> Kaleb, Perception: [1d20=4] 13
50:22 <Kaleb> :S
50:30 <Buck> no more surprise rounds
50:35 <Bobbob> ha
50:41 <Kaleb> "They're alive"
50:53 <Kaleb> I drag them out of the webs
50:53 <Bobbob> Kyra will go wading into the webs
50:57 <Bobbob> or that
50:57 <Kaleb> The ones that are alive
50:59 <Bobbob> (whichever is easier)
51:07 <Mekkis> ok
51:12 <Mekkis> you drag two bodies out of the webs
51:15 <Bobbob> is he/they on <0
51:32 <Mekkis> perhaps....
51:44 <Mekkis> make a heal check if you want
51:44 <Buck> "If any of those bodies are Netmeph, you'd best be telling me quickly."
51:45 <Bobbob> she will use Rebuke Death on them
51:52 <Mekkis> what does that do?
52:02 <Buck> heals hp, I think
52:04 <Bobbob> 1d4+2 damage healed on a touch, but only on creatures <0 hp
52:10 <Buck> are they dead
52:14 <Mekkis> <0 or <= 0 ?
52:20 <Bobbob> <0
52:25 <Mekkis> it doesn't work
52:28 <Bobbob> okay
52:34 <Bobbob> she'll take 10 (for 21) heal
52:38 <Bobbob> to determine their status
52:48 <Mekkis> they're unconscious, but stable
53:04 <Kaleb> I drag the other bodies out, too
53:07 <Bobbob> does she believe they are unconscious from strength damage or from hp damage?
53:13 <Bobbob> for lack of a better way to describe that IC
53:21 <Mekkis> damage
53:25 <Mekkis> hp
53:31 <Bobbob> huh, unconscious but... not <0?
53:36 <Mekkis> exactly 0
53:41 <Mekkis> to be precise
53:42 <Bobbob> isn't that still conscious
53:44 <Mekkis> no
53:49 <Bobbob> huh, okay
53:52 <Bobbob> thought 0 was disabled but conscious
53:58 <Buck> it must be ability damage
54:01 <Bobbob> well
54:03 <Bobbob> he said it wasn't
54:03 <Mekkis> this mod was written for 3.5)
54:06 <Bobbob> she'll use a wand of CLW on them
54:09 <Mekkis> ok
54:10 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
54:11 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=2] 3
54:11 <Bobbob> !throw 1d8+1
54:12 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d8+1: [1d8=5] 6
54:13 <Buck> how do we revive them
54:16 <Bobbob> CLW
54:19 <Mekkis> they both wake up
54:22 <Kaleb> It's season 0, of course it was written for 3.5
54:43 <Mekkis> "Who are you?"
54:48 <Bobbob> "Are you the Black Marquis' men?"
55:05 <Mekkis> one of them, the younger one, answers
55:09 <Mekkis> "Yes, I am.."
55:12 <Buck> sense motive
55:16 <Mekkis> "One-Eyed Farl, they call me"
55:29 <Bobbob> "What of your companion?"
55:33 <Bobbob> "Is he a Black Marquis man?"
55:44 <Mekkis> "I... I am Zukka."
55:50 <Buck> "Zukka."
55:53 <Buck> I walk over
55:53 <Mekkis> "Zukka Mephmet."
56:00 <Buck> "I've got a letter for you."
56:03 <Buck> "Here."
56:05 <Buck> I hand it to him
56:22 <Buck> thank you, prestige point
56:25 <Mekkis> "Wow... You went to all this effort to deliver me a letter?"
56:25 <Bobbob> haha
56:30 <Kaleb> Urgh, way to much chocolate
56:35 <Mekkis> "Do you represent Osirion?"
56:37 <Bobbob> "We're here to rescue you."
56:37 <Buck> "Just doin' my duty."
56:41 <Bobbob> "can you tell us what happened?"
56:43 <Buck> I look cool as I say it
56:48 <Bobbob> "Are there any other Black Marquis men still alive?"
56:57 <Kaleb> Roll Cha, Buck
56:59 <Buck> "I'm afraid that's my business."
57:10 <Mekkis> "I doubt it. Riverbane seems to have lived up to her name."
57:18 <Buck> "My instructions are to provide you with the letter."
57:19 <Bobbob> "She sent you here to die?"
57:27 <Buck> "Tell us about Riverbane."
57:28 <Mekkis> "I believe so... yes."
57:28 <Kaleb> I do a little victory dance
57:39 <Bobbob> "Were you part of the original expedition, or the rescue mission?"
57:40 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+5 Perform: Dance
57:40 <diebot> Kaleb, Perform: Dance: [1d20=4] 9
57:45 <Bobbob> "Were you on the <Lady Luck?>?"
57:48 <Bobbob> was that the name of the boat
57:49 <Mekkis> "The original expedition."
57:55 <Bobbob> Hanpur's Luck
58:02 <Kaleb> Hanspur's Luck
58:08 <Mekkis> "She sent us in here, where we were ambushed."
58:08 <Bobbob> "Was there an intelligent giant spider?"
58:21 <Mekkis> "She left us, saying she'd catch up."
58:33 <Mekkis> "Possibly. The ettercaps kept talking to the  spiders..."
58:41 <Bobbob> "Where were the spiders?"
58:45 <Bobbob> "Are there any more in this cavern?"
59:00 <Mekkis> he points around "EVERYWHERE... KEEP THEM AWAY FROM ME!!!!"
59:12 <Bobbob> really
59:12 <Buck> "What."
59:13 <Kaleb> I look around at where he's pointing
59:13 <Bobbob> are there spiders
59:32 <Kaleb> "Probably best to take these guys outside"
59:41 <Mekkis> "I need to tell the Black Marquis about Riverbane as soon as possible. Before he throws more of his men away with her."
59:44 <Buck> "What about the others?"
59:49 <Mekkis> "Others?"
59:50 <Bobbob> "That's a sound plan."
59:55 <Buck> "Are there more of your men in the webs?"
00:06 <Mekkis> "Yes"
00:09 <Mekkis> "are they alive?"
00:10 <Buck> "You're the first we've freed."
00:14 <Kaleb> "I hate to tell you this mate, but it looks like everyone's dead"
00:20 <Bobbob> "You're the first we've found alive so far."
00:23 <Buck> is that true
00:26 <Bobbob> "How many men did you have?"
00:35 <Buck> we only checked this one web didn't we
00:35 <Bobbob> we /may have/ burned one of them
00:38 <Bobbob> not sure if he was alive at the time
00:40 <Mekkis> "We were eight when we left..."
00:50 <Mekkis> "By the time we got here, there were four."
00:50 <Bobbob> "We'll see what we can do about finding the other six."
00:55 <Bobbob> "The other two."
00:55 <Kaleb> I go through the webs again, searching for bodies and dragging any that I find out
01:02 <Mekkis> all the other bodies are dead
01:03 <Buck> yep we take some time doing that
01:09 <Buck> ok, then we leave
01:16 <Bobbob> "Do you know where the rest of the threat is here?"
01:23 <Bobbob> "I know there's an intelligent spider, but it seems to be hiding."
01:24 <Kaleb> "Would you rather these bodies be taken back to their families?"
01:24 <Mekkis> as you get to there....
01:24 <Bobbob> "Any clues?"
01:29 <Bobbob> :O
01:34 <Mekkis> "If possible..."
01:40 <Bobbob> ah I was unsynced
01:51 <Kaleb> I sling a couple over my pony
01:53 <Buck> yeah so was I
01:57 <Mekkis> you see several figures enter the cavern
02:04 <Bobbob> die figures die!
02:04 <Kaleb> "If you guys can take these back, then we're sorted"
02:05 <Bobbob> throw a torch!
02:11 <Buck> hostile?
02:12 <Mekkis> one has jet-black hair...
02:19 <Bobbob> is the other Riverbane
02:20 <Mekkis> “Well,” says the jet-haired pirate woman, lips twisted in a
02:20 <Mekkis> grin. “Shiver me timbers! Look who made it out alive. I hoped
02:20 <Mekkis> the crawling horrors would be the end of you, but I suppose
02:20 <Mekkis> vermin don’t eat each other.” Riverbane spits on the moss
02:20 <Mekkis> covered ground before continuing. “Why do Pathfinders
02:20 <Mekkis> always have to meddle in what doesn’t concern them?”
02:20 <Mekkis> Pulling out an ancient-looking tome from a pouch, she throws
02:20 <Mekkis> it unceremoniously in the mud. “Fools! All this for a book …”
02:20 <Mekkis> She errupts in laughter. “Bazzak dies tomorrow and you die
02:20 <Mekkis> today! KILL THEM!”
02:54 <Buck> "I told you we ain't done, Riverbane."
02:56 <Bobbob> do it, throw alchemist fire on the trap
03:01 <Kaleb> DOOO EET
03:03 <Buck> I think we need initiative first?
03:06 <Mekkis> roll initiative first
03:12 <Buck> @init
03:12 <diebot> Buck, initiative: [1d20=15] 18
03:12 <Kaleb> @init
03:12 <diebot> Kaleb, Initiative: [1d20=1] 7
03:12 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+4 init
03:12 <diebot> Bobbob, init: [1d20=14] 18
03:15 <Kaleb> Oh come on
03:16 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20 kyra
03:16 <diebot> Bobbob, kyra: [1d20=10] 10
03:19 <Bobbob> does she have a book with her
03:24 <Bobbob> I don't want to blow up the book
03:25 <Kaleb> It's on the ground
03:31 <Kaleb> Did you read the box text?
03:34 <Bobbob> oh, I did
03:41 <Bobbob> I actually thought it was the pouch she threw on the ground
03:48 <Mekkis> the book is at L29
03:49 <Buck> the mud will protect it, probably
03:50 <Bobbob> haha
03:51 <Kaleb> Don't blow it up
03:54 <Mekkis> anyone want a faction reroll?
04:04 <Bobbob> yeah, like the mud protected the ditch
04:10 <Kaleb> I'm not wearing a relevant shirt, Mekkis
04:11 <Kaleb> Why?
04:12 <Buck> can we reroll where she throws it
04:13 <Mekkis> I am
04:16 <Bobbob> haha
04:20 <Mekkis> nope
04:21 <Bobbob> can we make her throw it way out of the cave
04:25 <Mekkis> she's throwing it there
04:26 <Kaleb> Ha
04:36 <Mekkis> (explosive != fire, remember kids)
04:39 <Kaleb> Cunning trap foiled by the book :S
04:43 <Buck> I want to make a knowledge engineering check to know if it'll affect the book
04:46 <Mekkis> roll it
04:47 <Buck> from where it is
04:48 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+1
04:49 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+1: [1d20=5] 6
04:56 <Buck> !throw 1d20+5 engineering
04:56 <diebot> Buck, engineering: [1d20=5] 10
05:06 <Buck> can I reroll that
05:09 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+0
05:10 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+0: [1d20=19] 19
05:12 <Mekkis> sure Buck 
05:14 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+0
05:15 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+0
05:15 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+0: [1d20=15] 15
05:15 <Buck> !throw 1d20+5 engineering
05:16 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+0: [1d20=11] 11
05:16 <diebot> Buck, engineering: [1d20=13] 18
05:16 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+0: [1d20=6] 6
05:19 <Mekkis> ok
05:52 <Mekkis> Buck, you think that the book will get blown out of the cave, but probably won't suffer any damage - unless it's actually set on fire by alchemist's fire
06:02 <Buck> perfect
06:21 <Mekkis> one guy charges
06:28 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4 attack
06:29 <Bobbob> what a charger
06:29 <diebot> Mekkis, attack: [1d20=19] 23
06:32 <Bobbob> ouch
06:35 <Mekkis> at Buck
06:38 <Buck> hit
06:42 <Buck> were those initiatives
06:43 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+4 confirmation
06:44 <diebot> Mekkis, confirmation: [1d20=10] 14
06:45 <Buck> because I'm pretty sure we won
06:55 <Buck> miss
06:55 <Bobbob> one got a 19
07:00 <Mekkis> !throw 1d6 damage
07:01 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [1d6=1] 1
07:06 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
07:10 <Buck> isn't that a miss
07:14 <Bobbob> er
07:18 <Bobbob> you aren't paying attention
07:19 <Buck> because it's not a natural 20
07:20 <Bobbob> he rolled a 23
07:22 <Bobbob> er
07:23 <Bobbob> no
07:26 <Buck> that's a confirmation roll
07:27 <Bobbob> I knew you would misinterpret that
07:33 <Buck> ok keep going
07:35 <Bobbob> it means that it wasn't a critical
07:37 <Mekkis> it's now Bobbob's turn
07:39 <Bobbob> it doesn't mean that the original hit doesn't hit
07:41 <Bobbob> yeah
07:45 <Bobbob> I'm moving
07:51 <Mekkis> where to
08:06 <Bobbob> to L24
08:14 <Bobbob> taking an AOO
08:17 <Bobbob> (maybe)
08:25 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20 +2 AoO
08:26 <diebot> Mekkis, +2 AoO: [1d20=4] 4
08:29 <Mekkis> miss
08:43 <Mekkis> your actions remain
08:44 <Bobbob> alchemist fire splash is only one square right?
08:48 <Mekkis> yeah
09:00 <Mekkis> you can target a square (AC5)
09:04 <Mekkis> or a point (AC10)
09:07 <Mekkis> I think
09:08 <Bobbob> yeah
09:20 <Bobbob> so if I target O26
09:26 <Bobbob> it'll set off the trap but there's no way it can splash fire onto the book?
09:30 <Mekkis> yep
09:35 <Bobbob> I'll do that
09:36 <Mekkis> unless you miss /horribly/
09:39 <Mekkis> roll it
09:43 <Bobbob> really
09:46 <Buck> don't miss horribly
09:47 <Bobbob> how much can I miss by
09:51 <Mekkis> not sure
09:56 <Bobbob> hmm
09:58 <Bobbob> I'll do it anyway
10:00 <Bobbob> !throw 1d20+7
10:00 <diebot> Bobbob, 1d20+7: [1d20=11] 18
10:00 <Mekkis> ok
10:03 <Mekkis> BOOM
10:05 <Bobbob> and die horribly
10:06 <Bobbob> from being blown up
10:08 <Mekkis> !throw 7d6 damage
10:09 <diebot> Mekkis, damage: [7d6=5,2,2,4,3,5,1] 22
10:39 <Mekkis> !throw 1d20+3
10:40 <diebot> Mekkis, 1d20+3: [1d20=15] 18
10:48 <Mekkis> !throw 3#1d20+2
10:49 <diebot> Mekkis, 3#1d20+2: [1d20=13] 15, [1d20=3] 5, [1d20=1] 3
10:51 <Mekkis> ok
11:26 <Mekkis> the book is thrown out of the cavern by the force of the explosion
11:31 <Mekkis> the other 4 perish
11:34 <Bobbob> and hopefully not burned :O
11:38 <Mekkis> it's now Buck's turn
11:48 <Buck> I pistol whip this guy 
11:49 <Kaleb> Dash after the book
11:52 <Kaleb> We can get this guy
11:54 <Mekkis> roll to-hit
12:01 <Bobbob> he can't get out
12:01 <Bobbob> too big
12:05 <Buck> !throw 1d20+4
12:05 <diebot> Buck, 1d20+4: [1d20=8] 12
12:09 <Mekkis> (remember +1 for high ground)
12:10 <Kaleb> Oh, wrong B
12:13 <Bobbob> -2 AC for charging
12:14 <Buck> +1 then
12:14 <Mekkis> regardless, you hit him
12:18 <Mekkis> roll damage
12:23 <Bobbob> I love cavalier improved charge
12:24 <Buck> !throw 1d10+2
12:24 <diebot> Buck, 1d10+2: [1d10=7] 9
12:27 <Bobbob> +4 to hit and no penalty to AC
12:28 <Mekkis> he dies
12:33 <Mekkis> ok
12:36 <Mekkis> now what
12:37 <Buck> can I knock him prone
12:42 <Bobbob> are we still in combat
12:45 <Bobbob> movement action remains for Buck
12:45 <Mekkis> he's already prone
12:46 <Mekkis> nope
12:53 <Bobbob> okay, I go get the book
12:57 <Buck> "Giddyup, Dobs."
12:59 <Mekkis> you get the book
13:00 <Buck> out of the cavern
13:15 <Mekkis> you leave the cavern, taking the survivors with you
13:19 <Buck> anyone else have anything to do
13:23 <Buck> like, say, a faction mission
13:28 <Bobbob> we did ours ages ago
13:34 <Buck> then we're all done
13:36 <Buck> we head back
13:49 <Kaleb> I'm also prodding people to take the bodies of the rest of the expedition that went out here
13:53 <Mekkis> With Riverbane dead or captured, the PCs are free to
13:53 <Mekkis> return to the Scrag Fisher. Two pirates still on board plead
13:53 <Mekkis> ignorance of their captain’s conspiracy and readily offer
13:53 <Mekkis> to bring the Pathfinders back to Deadbridge. Following
13:53 <Mekkis> an uneventful return trip, the PCs meet again with the
13:53 <Mekkis> Black Marquis. The man listens to their tale with great
13:53 <Mekkis> interest and thanks them profusely (having pieced things
13:53 <Mekkis> together, he can clarify any aspects of the story still elusive
13:53 <Mekkis> to the PCs). Being the greedy pirate he is, Bazzak refuses
13:53 <Mekkis> to reward the Pathfinders beyond letting them keep what
13:53 <Mekkis> they looted. “Such is the way of the River Kingdoms,” he
13:53 <Mekkis> declares. “If nothing else, your involvement in this affair
13:53 <Mekkis> helped free the region of a dangerous ettercap menace.
13:53 <Mekkis> Hopefully, that’s worth a quick mention in a Pathfinder
13:53 <Mekkis> Chronicle. No?” As for Istivil Bosk, he is certainly
13:53 <Mekkis> disappointed by the turn of events but doesn’t hold it
13:53 <Mekkis> against the PCs.
14:47 <Bobbob> what
14:50 <Bobbob> didn't we get his book
14:57 <Buck> yeah I thought we did what they wanted
14:58 <Mekkis> he looks at it
15:03 <Mekkis> and sighs.
15:06 <Mekkis> "It's a fake
15:07 <Mekkis> "
15:12 <Bobbob> oh
15:14 <Kaleb> "What!"
15:20 <Bobbob> "That BITCH."
15:24 <Kaleb> "We went all the way out there for nothing?"
15:26 <Buck> "At least Riverbane got what was coming to her."
15:31 <Buck> "I call this a win."
15:35 <Buck> and I ride off into the sunset
15:39 <Bobbob> haha
15:45 <Bobbob> you need to take ranks in perform (dramatics)
15:54 <Buck> Buck isn't performing man
15:55 <Buck> I am
15:57 <Kaleb> I do a victory dance
16:00 <Bobbob> ha
16:03 <Kaleb> !throw 1d20+5 Perform: Dance
16:04 <diebot> Kaleb, Perform: Dance: [1d20=7] 12
16:09 <Bobbob> I just played the victory fanfare
16:11 <Buck> thanks for the compliment I guess!
16:11 <Mekkis> everyone successfully completed their faction missions
16:12 <Bobbob> in case you were wondering
16:14 Buck is now known as Avatar
16:18 Bobbob is now known as Ballig
16:19 <Avatar> woot level 4
16:23 Kaleb is now known as Brunius
16:24 <Ballig> woot level 4 still
16:30 <Ballig> but woot more golds
16:32 <Brunius> Woot level 4 still
16:40 <Avatar> that didn't seem too tough for uptier
16:49 <Brunius> Too much gunpowder I think
16:52 <Ballig> the giant spider encounter was harsh
16:56 <Avatar> possibly
17:00 <Ballig> but yeah, gunpowder traps were pretty ingenious
17:06 <Avatar> could've turned out worse I guess
17:18 ChanOP gives channel operator status to Avatar
17:24 <Brunius> I hear you can defeat the Tomb of Horrors just by sending hordes of sheep ahead of you
17:27 * Avatar removes voice from Avatar Ballig Brunius
17:34 <Ballig> how does that work
17:34 <Mekkis> In case you were wondering, when I played it, we ensured that Riverbane had the book on her at the start, cast /charm person/, convinced her that we were co-conspirators, then took the book, turned the ship around, and explained it all to Black Marquis.
17:35 <Brunius> Thanks for the game guys
17:46 <Ballig> told you it was a charm person :p
17:47 <Brunius> Ha
17:59 <Avatar> but you didn't free the guyz
18:03 <Mekkis> nope
18:04 <Ballig> that wasn't the mission
18:07 <Ballig> the mission was to get the book
18:12 <Avatar> didn't you have any faction missions requiring it?
18:12 <Mekkis> we failed all our faction missions
18:16 <Ballig> haha
18:20 <Mekkis> but it didn't really matter
18:21 <Avatar> damn man
18:28 <Ballig> I swear the Harspur's Luck exists solely for faction missions
18:28 <Avatar> play another scenario instead
18:29 <Mekkis> we managed to get two sessions done in one slot!
18:31 <Ballig> there's no reason to even go in there
18:33 <alicemalice> sorry to interrupt but is the game already over?
18:36 <Mekkis> yes
18:41 <alicemalice> oh
18:42 <Ballig> we were finishing up from earlier
18:46 <alicemalice> oh right
18:47 <Avatar> we were already part way through it
18:49 <Mekkis> they did some nice preparation with a large amount of gunpowder
18:50 <Avatar> we started late last night
18:51 <Ballig> Mekkis likes to have 6 hour dinners
18:55 <Mekkis> yeah
19:05 <Ballig> and yeah, we set a trap which we were expecting to use during an escape
19:15 <Ballig> but it was well placed to demolish would-be ambushers
19:15 <Brunius> While conducting conversation in German
19:26 <Mekkis> I had to let you use it
19:35 <Mekkis> it's called "rewarding creative solutions"
19:53 <Mekkis> (and yes, the scenario does say that the crates are full of gunpowder)
20:03 <Ballig> mmm gunpowder
20:10 <Brunius> nomnomnom
20:15 <Ballig> I assume that the book is scripted as a fake, that we didn't just bring the wrong one back?
20:19 <Mekkis> (to discourage people from burning the webs)
20:29 <Avatar> I get a bonus feat at 4th level
20:32 <Avatar> saweeet
21:03 <Mekkis> how close to third are the New Players?
21:20 <Ballig> mm
21:24 <Ballig> they're early 2nd, I think
21:25 <Brunius> Wid a capital letteR!
21:56 <Ballig> we should set up a bot that runs First Steps every night
21:59 <Brunius> H
22:01 <Brunius> Ha
22:08 <Ballig> are there rules that say a GM must be a human
22:13 <Brunius> Don't think so
22:19 <Mekkis> not sure
22:44 <Mekkis> but one HAS to ensure that the Paracountess is well-played...
22:55 <Ballig> haha
23:05 <Ballig> you would have to research cybersex logs extensively
23:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> over already?
23:15 <Ballig> yeah
23:17 <Ballig> we blowed them up
23:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> was that a good or bad ending?
23:32 <Ballig> it was a good ending
23:35 <Brunius> I guess.
23:37 <Mekkis> don't spoil it !
23:37 <Ballig> I mean, we blew some bitches up
23:43 <Avatar> I don't think there is a bad ending
23:46 <Avatar> unless you are a sore loser
23:48 <Ballig> he doesn't even know what we played :p
23:58 <Mekkis> Avatar, even Darkest Vengeance?
24:03 <Ballig> ugh
24:08 <Mekkis> I want to run that again
24:09 <Ballig> fucking, Darkest Vengeance
24:15 <Ballig> with spaceshot
24:18 <Ballig> and mavor
24:19 <Mekkis> to keep uppity PCs in their place !
24:19 <Ballig> and bossman?
24:22 <Avatar> why would you want to run that again
24:25 <Mekkis> and sachiru !
24:28 <Ballig> haha
24:29 <Avatar> like Roger
24:34 <Avatar> do you have sadistic tendencies
24:42 <Mekkis> they come up from time to time
24:47 <Mekkis> I normally keep them in check
24:48 <Avatar> you don't even get DM credit for it anymore
24:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> uppity PCs?
24:55 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm never uppity when I'm playing
25:06 <Mekkis> I've hardly seen you play
25:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> that may be the issue
25:25 <Brunius> That was like our second scenario wasn't it?
25:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> to thinking I play uppity-like
25:40 <Ballig> yeah it was second or third scenario
25:43 <Mekkis> third
25:49 <Ballig> Bobbob only survived because you guys left him unconscious but stable
25:50 <Spaceshot_tm2> of the arc?
25:58 <Ballig> thinking you were almost done with the scenario so you didn't need me
26:00 <Ballig> and then BAM
26:03 <Mekkis> any dayjobs
26:05 <Mekkis> ?
26:08 <Ballig> yeah
26:19 <Ballig> !throw 1d20+7 weaponsmith
26:19 <diebot> Ballig, weaponsmith: [1d20=13] 20
26:23 <Mekkis> nice
26:26 <Mekkis> 20gp !
26:29 <Ballig> not terrible
26:33 <Ballig> better than a kick in the balls
26:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> does perform dancing count as a day job?
26:44 <Mekkis> ja
26:49 <Ballig> yeah
26:49 <Ballig> any craft or perform
26:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> sweet, I'm good
26:49 <Ballig> er
26:51 <Ballig> wait
26:52 <Ballig> I'm thinking profession
26:59 <Ballig> I'm not sure about perform, I know some do with a vanity
27:01 <Mekkis> craft, perform or profession
27:05 <Ballig> oh okay
27:12 <Mekkis> plus whatever a vanity gives you
27:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> or diplomacy if you're a munchkin XD
27:18 <Mekkis> no
27:21 <Mekkis> you need a vanity for that
27:28 <Ballig> the diplomacy in and of itself isn't the issue with that
27:28 <Mekkis> and it costs 5 prestige
27:32 <Ballig> it's the huge modifier :p
27:34 <Brunius> Yeah
27:40 <Ballig> Brunius: do you have sleight of hand
27:47 <Brunius> !throw 1d20+5 Perform: Dance
28:06 <diebot> Brunius, Perform: Dance: [1d20=3] 8
28:06 <Brunius> Yeah, why?
28:06 <Ballig> you can buy a vanity that lets you use it as a day job
28:06 <Brunius> +10 on it
28:06 <Brunius> Sweet
28:06 <Brunius> Can I use Stealth?
28:06 <Ballig> don't think so
28:08 <Brunius> I've got +18 on that
28:16 <Mekkis> don't think so
28:46 <Mekkis> day jobs only really become a core part of your income when you're on slow progression
28:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> +18 on stealth? wtf
28:59 <Ballig> they're never /bad/ though
29:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> munchkins, I call munchkins
29:06 <Mekkis> that's easy
29:14 <Mekkis> you get size bonuses
29:15 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: having a high skill check doesn't make you a munchkin
29:18 <Ballig> for one, he's level 4
29:19 <Ballig> and he's small
29:22 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
29:24 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh, nvm
29:25 <Ballig> and he already has a high dex because that's his job
29:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> thought he was a real race XD
29:31 <Ballig> so straight away you have +9 from dex and small
29:36 <Ballig> then 1 rank, +3 class
29:37 <Mekkis> at least he's a munchkin who _plays_
29:37 <Ballig> you're up to 13
29:40 <Ballig> at level 1
29:43 <Brunius> I had +13 at first level, Ballig
29:49 <Ballig> yeah :p
29:52 <Ballig> I just mathed that out
29:56 <Brunius> sweet
29:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> didn't realise he was small
30:01 <Brunius> So it's legit!
30:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> small gives +4
30:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> which is a bit
30:05 <Mekkis> Brunius, take a level of synthesist
30:05 <Ballig> yes
30:13 <Mekkis> to get another +8 !
30:17 <Brunius> Haha
30:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> is synthesist +8 to any skill?
30:20 <Brunius> I should
30:33 <Mekkis> Brunius, but then you need APG and UM
30:43 <Brunius> Hmmm
30:53 <Brunius> I need a job.
31:03 <Brunius> Then I can feel superior to Spaceshot_tm2 and Avatar
31:11 <Mekkis> heh
31:14 <Ballig> haha
31:20 <Ballig> good work, Brunius
31:29 <Ballig> shaped in my own image
31:33 * Ballig steeples fingers
31:37 <Avatar> alicemalice is rolling up a sorcerer
31:43 <Mekkis> Ballig, if I want to get a job with a certain company that isn't advertising, how could I go about doing it?
31:44 <Brunius> I should roll that Pally
31:45 <Avatar> well, pregenning it
31:57 <Ballig> Mekkis: need to know someone there, I'd say
32:06 <Mekkis> ah
32:11 <Ballig> you can do the whole "here's my resume for your file in case an opening becomes available"
32:19 <Ballig> but depending on the popularity of the company, they probably get those all the time
32:22 <Avatar> Mekkis: chronicle sheet plzzz
32:23 <Mekkis> do you get much of that?
32:25 <Mekkis> sure
32:38 <Ballig> not as a government department, really
32:41 <Ballig> we do "bulk rounds"
32:47 <Ballig> so every 6 months or so they just do a massive recruitment
32:51 <Ballig> and create merit lists
32:55 <Mekkis> I'll just forge one for you, Avatar 
32:58 <Ballig> then people can fill positions from a merit list
33:11 <Avatar> what
33:15 <Avatar> just a legit one please
33:17 <Brunius> Ballig, what image types will CA accept?
33:29 <Ballig> BMP, JPG, GIF and PNG off the top of my head
33:34 <Brunius> bmp it is
33:37 <Ballig> yuck
33:40 <Ballig> we will punch you in the kidneys
33:42 <Avatar> remove that functionality
33:44 <Ballig> real men do PNG
33:47 <Ballig> haha
33:50 <Mekkis> yeah
33:51 <Ballig> yeah, I will add functionality to CA
33:59 <Ballig> so that if you try to use a BMP it deletes the program from your computer
34:04 <Ballig> also sends me all your bank details
34:08 <Brunius> Ha
34:21 <Brunius> Bank details won't do anything
34:27 <Ballig> passwords will
34:30 <Brunius> (Ballig told me that so it must be true!)
34:46 <Brunius> I don't use internet banking
34:50 <Ballig> when I said details I meant passwords
34:50 <Ballig> :p
35:13 <Ballig> THEN IT WILL JUST PUNCH YOU OKAY :(
35:17 <Ballig> gods, always ruining my fun
35:37 <Ballig> it is definitely time for Dexter
35:44 <Brunius> I can't use internet banking
35:48 <Brunius> The bank won't let me :S
35:54 <Ballig> I know, stop ruining it for me
37:47 <Ballig> Mekkis: can we have an indication of how much gold we got
38:00 <Ballig> to make some sweet purchasez
38:14 <Brunius> Ballig.
38:24 <Ballig> Brunius
38:26 <Brunius> Why will CA not accept more than 52 columns or rows?
38:39 <Avatar> Mekkis: did you pluck 7d6 from random or was that based on something
38:48 <Ballig> Brunius: because otherwise it will punch you :(
39:00 <Brunius> :(
39:01 <Ballig> but if you mean "what is the significance of 52?" it's because it is double the alphabet
39:06 <Brunius> Ah
39:10 <Ballig> if I allowed more than that I would have to come up with another way to indicate columns past !Z
39:21 <Brunius> @Z
39:25 <Brunius> Then #Z
39:28 <Ballig> yeah, I'm not saying it's impossible
39:30 <Brunius> Then $Z
39:32 <Brunius> Then %Z
39:36 <Ballig> but I wanted to limit it, and decided to do it there
39:48 <Ballig> can you give me a legitimate reason for needing more than 52 columns or rows
39:57 <Brunius> This map is fucking huge and needs it
40:02 <Ballig> what box size
40:06 <Brunius> 19
40:25 <Mekkis> Avatar, I pulled it out of my arse
40:36 <Ballig> that's not bad width-wise
40:40 <Ballig> but it's obnoxious height-wise
40:40 <Mekkis> Ballig, 468gp + dayjob
40:46 <Ballig> cool thanks
40:52 <Brunius> That doesn't sound right.
40:53 <Ballig> er
40:54 <Ballig> wait
40:57 <Brunius> Slow progression path?
40:59 <Ballig> didn't we do tier 3-4
41:01 <Mekkis> ooh
41:02 <Mekkis> my bad
41:07 <Mekkis> 1271gp
41:10 <Mekkis> + dayjob
41:13 <Ballig> that's more satisfying
41:14 <Ballig> thanks!
41:19 <Mekkis> but let be check to be certain
41:27 <Mekkis> the scenario might have been erratad
41:39 <Ballig> erratad to give more gold
41:45 <Brunius> Yeah I get 1 gp!
42:24 <Ballig> I should buy a wayfinder one day
42:30 <Ballig> I'd probably get a jade wayfinder with guidance
42:38 <Brunius> Heh
42:45 <Mekkis> you can also buy a Very Useful Item
42:58 <Mekkis> Wand of Magic Missile (CL3) (25 charges)
42:59 <Ballig> what's a Very Useful Item
43:09 <Ballig> ha, that would be okay on Samsuhn at some point
43:22 <Brunius> If I were writing a scenario, at least at higher tiers, I'd make it have a pathfinder's coin for the mission
43:33 <Ballig> did Riverbane have that
43:35 <Brunius> Because that would be cool
43:40 <Mekkis> yes
43:47 <Brunius> Uh, if riverbane had it, isn't it blown up?
43:51 <Ballig> shut up
44:23 <Ballig> 2d4+2 damage, no save or attack
44:25 <Ballig> that could have added up
44:33 <Mekkis> do you know any good method of doing bulk font replacement in an SVG file?
44:48 <Brunius> nope
44:49 <Ballig> I've never used SVG files
44:50 <Avatar> what's a jade wayfinder
44:56 <Brunius> it's in the field guide
44:58 <Ballig> Avatar: the wayfinder that costs 2 PA and casts guidance instead of light
45:02 <Ballig> he's aware of it
45:04 <Avatar> oh yeah
45:05 <Mekkis> at tier 6-7, it's got a Great Item!
45:07 <Ballig> he considered getting it at some stage
45:13 <Ballig> I gave him shit for the next week about how much it could have helped him
45:18 <Brunius> Ha
45:21 <Mekkis> a +2 mithril chainshirt for only 4250gp
45:25 <Avatar> what
45:27 <Mekkis> that's a 1000gp discount
45:31 <Mekkis> ummm misprint
45:31 <Ballig> how
45:33 <Ballig> is that an error
45:34 <Ballig> haha
45:57 <Brunius> Why didn't we do this at Tier 6-7?
45:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'll take it for that price
46:02 <Brunius> I could have used that chainshirt!
46:09 <Ballig> because the only one of us with a level 6-7 character is Mekkis
46:16 <Brunius> Oh yeah...
46:22 <Ballig> by the time you're level 6 or 7, 1k gold won't be THAT much
46:33 <Avatar> hmm my level 9 gunslinger had weapon focus as the 4th level feat
46:35 <Ballig> it's never insignificant, but it won't be enough to kick yourself over
46:44 <Avatar> which is a pre-requisite for a later feat
46:58 <Avatar> might not survive that long 
47:02 <Brunius> I wonder if I could have one character resurrect his brother
47:09 <Ballig> ha
47:12 <Ballig> which character died
47:15 <Brunius> Kamarr
47:20 <Ballig> what level
47:21 <Brunius> The one in that TPK
47:22 <Brunius> 1
47:31 <Ballig> resurrect costs way too much to use it on a level 1 character
47:35 <Brunius> It'd be cool for RP though
47:47 <Ballig> you would go down in history as the most hardcore roleplayer ever
47:52 <Brunius> Ha
47:58 <Brunius> I probably wouldn't
48:04 <Ballig> everyone else would be screaming "BUT HE'S LEVEL 1, IT'S NOT WORTH IT!"
48:13 <Ballig> and you will be like "HE'S MY MOTHERFUCKIN' BROTHER, MAN. MY MOTHERFUCKIN' BROTHER! HE AIN'T HEAVY."
48:21 <Brunius> I'd have to check if it's legit with darkwhite first
48:36 <Brunius> Avatar: What's Darkwhite's G+?
48:46 <Avatar> Stephen White
48:56 <Ballig> are you allowed to use G+ yet
48:56 <Brunius> Nope
48:56 <Ballig> haha
49:01 <Brunius> Doesn't stop me.
49:03 <Ballig> is it 16+ or 18+
49:12 <Brunius> 18+
49:21 <Ballig> if they made it require a credit card for verification it might be worth using
49:31 <Avatar> that's not true
49:55 <Avatar> it's better to use than skype
50:08 <Ballig> nope
50:15 <Avatar> it is man
50:22 <Ballig> that's a lie
50:23 <Ballig> and you are a liar
50:24 <Avatar> when the host leaves, the hangout doesn't die
50:32 <Ballig> how often does the host leave
50:33 <Ballig> like never
50:41 <Avatar> it can happen by accident
50:44 <Ballig> but has it ever
50:52 <Avatar> I don't know, maybe
50:58 <Ballig> it's never happened
51:03 <Avatar> the point is it can happen
51:10 <Ballig> yeah, and we should all live in alice springs
51:14 <Avatar> also people can join of their own voilition
51:18 <Ballig> because a super tsunami could happen
51:30 <Avatar> getting disconnected is a bit more likely than a tsunami
51:33 <Brunius> I live in the hills, Ballig
51:39 <Brunius> A super tsunami won't affect me
51:40 <Ballig> you're still on the coast
51:44 <Ballig> it will if it's super
51:56 <Avatar> I reckon next game I will g+ instead of skype
52:06 <Ballig> then you will be listening to the plans of the tumbleweeds
52:07 <Ballig> ha ha!
52:13 <Avatar> the what
52:31 <Brunius> It'd have to be pretty super to get past tasmania, the continental shelf AND the height difference of the hills
52:31 <Ballig> tumbleweed
52:37 <Brunius> That's a good one Ballig
52:40 <Ballig> I know
52:41 <Brunius> Actually made me lol
52:42 <Ballig> I am hilarious
52:47 <Avatar> lost me
52:55 <Ballig> do you not know what a tumbleweed is
53:00 <Avatar> no
53:03 <Ballig> you play Buck, you need to know
53:04 <Ballig> google images it
53:17 <Brunius> 'sif you don't know what a tumbleweed is
53:17 <Ballig> you will know what it is when you see it
53:38 <Avatar> I still don't know what that is
53:40 <Ballig> Brunius: well, I would believe it. he had no idea what "been through the desert on a horse with no name" was
53:45 <Ballig> I was cracking up and he's like "what? I don't get it"
53:50 <Avatar> looks like a hay bail
53:55 <Brunius> I don't know what that is either Ballig
54:01 <Brunius> In the western movies
54:04 <Brunius> When it's all empty
54:15 <Ballig> Avatar: it's a weed you will see blowing along the ground on the wind
54:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> I wouldn't mind playing a game on G+
54:19 <Brunius> They tumble across the screen to emphasis it's empty
54:22 <Ballig> you see it in cowboy movies when everything is empty
54:24 <Ballig> and quiet
54:24 <Avatar> oh
54:28 <Avatar> I don't even care man
54:32 <Ballig> yeah
54:33 <Avatar> most of the time I don't really like skyping
54:44 <Ballig> but G+ing will magically be better?
54:46 <Ballig> how does that work
54:47 <Avatar> especially when there's a better alternative to skype
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54:57 <Avatar> wow chuck is back
54:57 <Ballig> it's clearly a worse alternative
54:59 <ChuckBrowneyes> sup :)
55:01 <Brunius> Oh hey ChuckBrowneyes is back!
55:05 <Avatar> hey chuck
55:06 <Ballig> who's chuck
55:09 <ChuckBrowneyes> hows it going
55:10 <Avatar> chuck is my friend
55:15 <Ballig> don't lie man
55:16 <ChuckBrowneyes> we're bffs
55:16 <Avatar> with brown eyes
55:17 <Ballig> you don't have friends
55:24 <Avatar> chuck is my friend
55:27 <ChuckBrowneyes> and i chuck browneyes too
55:29 <Ballig> isn't this the spammer
55:34 <Brunius> Who's alicemalice then Ballig?
55:40 <Mekkis> ok
55:43 <ChuckBrowneyes> no must be someone with similar name
55:43 <Ballig> some girl he met at the zoo
55:54 <Mekkis> I've made the chronicle sheet in Inkscape
55:54 <Avatar> alicemalice is also my friend
55:54 <ChuckBrowneyes> hows it been going
56:02 <Brunius> Oh god
56:03 <Mekkis> it should be a perfect forgery :S
56:03 <Avatar> I have friends in high places
56:03 <Ballig> probably won a bet about whether koalas are marsupials or bears
56:16 <Avatar> what is this about a forgery mekkis
56:21 <Ballig> is Inkscape what you use for those crappy fonts
56:23 <Avatar> did we not play it properly
56:30 <Mekkis> no
56:34 <Avatar> it's like you're forging your own document
56:44 <Ballig> no we didn't play it properly?
56:46 <Ballig> what's the story
56:50 <Mekkis> the crappy fonts are exactly the same ones that Paizo use :)
57:00 <Avatar> cmon man forget the fonts
57:02 <Avatar> I just want my sheet
57:04 <Ballig> that doesn't make them any less crappy
58:27 <Avatar> getting weapon focus is a bit disappointing
59:03 <Avatar> especially on a gun 
59:18 <Ballig> I would love weapon focus !
59:27 <Brunius> I would love weapon focus !
59:28 <Avatar> +1 on a touch attack based weapon
59:40 <Ballig> how many times did you miss against those spiders
59:42 <Brunius> You should get a pepperbox Avatar
59:45 <Avatar> like none
59:48 <Avatar> what's a pepperbox
59:50 <Ballig> you weren't hitting at all
59:54 <Brunius> It has 6 shots
59:58 <Brunius> between reloads
00:00 <Brunius> must be good!
00:01 <Avatar> is that a musket
00:02 <Ballig> anyway, what's the feat you are saving up for
00:08 <Avatar> snap shot
00:09 <Brunius> It's in the inner sea world guide
00:17 <Avatar> okay, is it a musket
00:19 <Ballig> that's the one that lets you threaten in adjacent squares?
00:21 <Ballig> is that really worth it?
00:22 <Brunius> Dunno
00:27 <Avatar> snap shot is a hardcore feat
00:33 <Ballig> doesn't it just let you do AOOs
00:38 <Avatar> and there's also improved snap shot
00:43 <Ballig> what does that do
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00:52 <Avatar> increases the range of my threatened area by 10ft
00:56 <Brunius> Sup Sachiru
00:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> are you getting close or fighting at the back?
01:06 <Ballig> he tries to fight at the back
01:15 <Avatar> I think the wording means it's 15ft of threat
01:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> then why do you need snap shot?
01:23 <Ballig> he actively needs to avoid being adjacent to foes because they can get an AOO on him wh en he shoots
01:26 <Ballig> but improved snapshot sounds good
01:30 <Ballig> just not certain it's worth three feats
01:30 <Avatar> snap shot is the first feat you get
02:35 <Avatar> um, wait a sec
02:37 <Avatar> it requires rapid shot too
02:39 <Ballig> yeah
02:41 <Ballig> I was about to say that
03:03 <Mekkis> Avatar, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/17Avatar.pdf
03:05 <Ballig> sod oes snap shot
03:12 <Mekkis> I kept your faction secret
03:19 <Avatar> why
03:35 <Ballig> he's aldoran
03:37 <Ballig> HAHA
03:46 <Ballig> whoops I told everyone
03:58 <Avatar> what is aldoran
04:03 <Brunius> gg
04:07 <Ballig> Avatar: I actually think rapid shot is good
04:16 <Avatar> yeah, I think I might take it
04:18 <Mekkis> agreed
04:20 <Ballig> that's an optional use for your paper cartridges
04:22 <Avatar> I can take weapon focus at level 5
04:47 <Ballig> it's interesting, though
04:59 <Ballig> rapid shot is a pre-requisite for a standard gunslinger feat
05:08 <Ballig> but you can't use rapid shot unless you are able to get your reload down to a free action
05:13 <ChuckBrowneyes> brb need new pass
05:23 <Avatar> easy for a pistol gunslinger
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05:27 <Ballig> is it
05:47 <Avatar> they only need a standard action to reload normally, instead of full round
05:56 <Avatar> rapid reload makes it move, paper makes it free
05:57 <Ballig> why don't you use pistols
06:00 <Avatar> they can do it at level 1
06:06 <Avatar> muskets have a 40ft range
06:09 <Avatar> pistols are 20ft
06:17 <Avatar> muskets do more damage too
06:20 <Ballig> so just take range increment penalties
06:26 <Avatar> and musket master is a pretty incredibly archetype
06:34 <Ballig> doesn't all it do is reduce the reload
06:39 <Ballig> which you do by taking pistols !
06:45 <Avatar> no it does more than that
06:51 <Ballig> what else does it do
06:57 <Avatar> go take a look man
06:58 <Spaceshot_tm2> pistols can duel wield
07:10 <Ballig> I'm not going to understand it
07:12 <Ballig> I don't know gunslingers
07:51 <Mekkis> Ballig, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/17Ballig.pdf
08:15 <Mekkis> Brunius, http://nl.ti4200.info/~mekkis/17Brunius.pdf
08:24 <Avatar> wow
08:28 <Avatar> apparently I already have rapid reload
08:30 <Avatar> since level 1
08:34 <Mekkis> Avatar, do you like the way I hid your faction?
08:34 <Avatar> oh wait
08:37 <Avatar> I'm thinking rapid shot
08:42 <Avatar> that would've been scary
08:48 <Ballig> haha
08:52 <Avatar> I can't download the sheet
08:55 <Mekkis> lol
09:00 <Avatar> my browser is having pdf downloading/viewing problems
09:03 <Mekkis> lol
09:09 <Mekkis> disable the adobe plugin
09:15 <Avatar> I'm using foxit
09:17 <Ballig> you didn't hide my faction :(
09:20 <Avatar> it's saying failed to load somethign.ocx
09:24 <Mekkis> disable the foxit plugin
09:34 <Mekkis> opening PDFs in your browser is stupid
09:41 <Ballig> yeah
09:45 <Ballig> definitely disable the plugin
09:59 <Avatar> it is disabled
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10:36 <Ballig> Avatar: try tools > preferences > file associations
10:42 <Ballig> and disable "display PDF in browser"
10:45 <Avatar> yeah, it's unticked
11:05 <Avatar> I don't suppose dccing it is an option
11:15 <Ballig> I'll DCC it
11:24 <Mekkis> try not using chrome
11:29 <Brunius> +1 mithral shirt
11:31 <Brunius> That's not bad
12:19 <Mekkis> specifically Chrome/14.0.935.202
12:28 <Ballig> can I take the 2,233 gold because it's not crossed out
12:30 <Mekkis> 32-bit version
12:34 <Mekkis> no
12:35 <Avatar> I actually need armour
12:48 <Ballig> oh :(
13:04 <Mekkis> chances are Ballig doesn't know your faction, because I hid it 
13:06 <Mekkis> right?
13:07 <Avatar> I've been using bloody 25gp studded leather this entire time
13:12 <Ballig> chances are
13:13 <Avatar> why would you even do that man
13:15 <Brunius> SAME BRO
13:16 <Ballig> I didn't actually open the PDF
13:28 <Mekkis> see how well I hid it
13:33 <Brunius> We shud upgrade our armour
13:34 <Ballig> did you make it white
13:36 <Ballig> actually, that reminds me
13:47 <Ballig> one of my chronicle sheets had a disease hidden in white text
13:50 <Ballig> is it meant to be there
13:54 <Brunius> Is it darkwhite?
13:56 <Mekkis> you didn't get it
14:00 <Brunius> See what I did there?
14:01 <Ballig> so I can delete the text?
14:08 <Mekkis> no
14:12 <Mekkis> it must remain there
14:18 <Ballig> really
14:24 <Mekkis> yeah
14:27 <Ballig> oh
14:31 <Mekkis> it needs to be visible when printed
14:42 <Ballig> but then they will think I got diseased
14:49 <Mekkis> no
14:57 <Mekkis> they'll see that it's white, and understand
15:05 <Ballig> will they
15:08 <Mekkis> yes
15:20 <Mekkis> Ballig, want to sniff my dump?
15:28 <Ballig> not in front of alicemalice
16:08 <Ballig> how big is the file
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16:36 <ChuckBrowneyes> hay guise
16:40 <ChuckBrowneyes> got a password reset
16:40 <Ballig> what's kicking
17:36 <Avatar> oh
17:37 <ChuckBrowneyes> drinking prune juice lol...
17:37 <Avatar> day job roll
17:40 <ChuckBrowneyes> u
17:56 <Avatar> !throw 1d20+5 craft/day job roll
17:56 <diebot> Avatar, craft/day job roll: [1d20=2] 7
18:16 <Mekkis> Ballig, 166MB
18:26 <ChuckBrowneyes> oh how do u roll
18:27 <Mekkis> I'll try 7zipping it
18:33 <Ballig> put it on your web server and I'll download it
18:40 <ChuckBrowneyes> who wants to watch me roll 18/100 str on first go
19:01 <Avatar> a day job roll of 7 is like 2gp isn't it
19:07 <Mekkis> 1
19:16 <Ballig> isn't it 5
19:19 <Ballig> maybe it's not
19:33 <Avatar> yeah 1
19:35 <Ballig> 10 is 5
19:46 <Ballig> with a +5 you can expect 10gp on average
19:58 <Ballig> sometimes you'll get 20g, sometimes you'll get 1g
21:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> does a natural 1 give 1g no matter what the adds?
22:01 <Mekkis> nope
22:03 <Ballig> no
22:12 <Spaceshot_tm2> mmk
22:15 <Mekkis> if Nightmare rolls a natural 1, he gets 20gp
22:15 <Avatar> looks like you can get 0gp?
22:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> so I should get 10g min :P
22:25 <Avatar> DC 5 to get 1gp
22:39 <Brunius> Less than 5 and you get nothing
22:42 <Ballig> you have +14 in performance?
22:51 <Mekkis> MUNCHKIN ! 
22:53 <Avatar> what's with you and perform
22:55 <Ballig> haha
23:05 <Mekkis> oh
23:07 <Mekkis> just a sec
23:10 <Avatar> perform (dramatics)
23:16 <Mekkis> are you effective in combat?
23:19 <Avatar> roll up a bard
23:20 <Ballig> no, he has perform
23:28 <Ballig> I'm not pulling that out for the laughs
23:35 <Avatar> why not, I did
23:39 <Avatar> with perform (comedy) no less !
23:44 <Brunius> Ha
23:50 <Brunius> I remember that
23:50 <Ballig> his character has perform (dancing)
23:57 <Ballig> basically his day job is a stripper
23:59 <Avatar> turned out mekkis had the last laugh
24:10 <Brunius> Who has perform (dance) Ballig?
24:10 <Ballig> I actually wouldn't mind playing a bard
24:17 <Ballig> needless to say it wouldn't be cowardly
24:24 <Ballig> Brunius: the character Spaceshot is referring to with his guaranteed 10gp
24:31 <Brunius> Ah
24:39 <Brunius> Kaleb does too
24:43 <Avatar> bard is the real jack of all trades isn't he
24:45 <Ballig> has perform dance? ha
24:46 <Brunius> 1 rank in it
24:51 <Ballig> Avatar: bard have a few unique spells
24:56 <Ballig> memory wipe was one of them
24:59 <Ballig> or whatever it was called
25:03 <Brunius> Because it came up in a couple of scenarios and I went "Meh whatever"
25:23 <Mekkis> I'm sorry
25:23 <Ballig> modify memory
25:30 <Mekkis> Gogg is the jack of all trades
25:44 <Ballig> really
25:46 <Ballig> what trades is he jack of
25:49 <Mekkis> "Axe Modify Memory"
25:54 <Ballig> ha
25:59 <Ballig> that can only modify it in one way!
26:10 <Mekkis> "Who Needs Other Way ! "
26:31 <Ballig> I would use my awesome bard spells to use modify memory on a hot chick and make her remember us having sex
26:34 <Ballig> and it was REALLY GOOD
26:47 <Mekkis> nice
26:52 <Ballig> but it only lasted for 5 minutes
26:53 <Brunius> Ha
26:55 <Ballig> because that's how I roll, baby
27:03 <Mekkis> but next time....
27:09 <Ballig> oh yes
27:10 <Ballig> next time
27:15 <Ballig> it will be all about you
27:22 <Ballig> (or at least afterwards you will remember it that way)
27:48 <Mekkis> is that called an "abusive relationship"?
27:54 <Ballig> haha
28:03 <Ballig> I've heard of physical abuse, sexual abuse and emotional abuse
28:12 <Ballig> this is like... enchantment abuse
28:31 <Mekkis> "Enchantment was designed to be abused."
28:37 <Mekkis> or so Mytiazair would say
29:09 <Ballig> ha
29:36 <Mekkis> Mytiazair believes that Everyone should believe in Freedom
30:13 <Ballig> at least, the Freedom he tells them to believe in?
30:45 <Mekkis> "You WILL believe in Freedom, even if I need to Dominate you"
30:53 <Ballig> ha
31:10 <Mekkis> (after being /Dominated/, you'll see the appeal of the alternative)
31:20 <Mekkis> therefore, you'll support freedom
32:52 <Ballig> Mytiazair is level 9?
32:56 <Mekkis> yeah
33:20 <Mekkis> he can't cast 5th level spells though
33:51 <Mekkis> (Mytiazair is also the name of my IBM T61 laptop)
34:15 <Ballig> is your laptop level 9
34:20 <Mekkis> no
34:31 <Mekkis> it's about 4 years old now
34:40 <Mekkis> 6GB of RAM though
34:47 <Mekkis> 1TB of disk space
35:58 <Brunius> So Mekkis' 4 Y/O laptop is better than my current computer.
36:02 <Brunius> Sounds about right
36:11 <Ballig> does it run windows
36:49 <Mekkis> it does actually dual-boot with XP, surprisingly
36:56 <Mekkis> it also runs XP in virtualbox
37:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea but brunius, he didn't buy it with that stock
37:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> at least not the HD
38:25 <Sachiru> Guys, just curious. What would you consider to be the least powerful, mechanically, of the status conditions? Fatigued? Shaken?
38:34 <Mekkis> dazzled
38:42 <Mekkis> invisible
38:48 <Mekkis> hidden
38:55 <Mekkis> ah
38:58 <Avatar> Mekkis do you have another scenario prepped
39:00 <Mekkis> Observed !
39:09 <Mekkis> First Steps 2
39:26 <Mekkis> I'm a little wary about running it
39:45 <Ballig> ha
40:25 <Brunius> Are you going to TPK them in the first encounter?
40:43 <Mekkis> Brunius, that's not what I'm worried about
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42:57 <Brunius> Sure it is.
44:49 <Mekkis> have you played it?
45:09 <Ballig> he TPKed in the first encounter
45:17 <Mekkis> I meant played it through
45:34 <Ballig> he played it through the abdomen and right out through his back
45:35 <Ballig> ha ha!
45:58 <Mekkis> without giving too much away (I hope)...
46:13 <Mekkis> A TPK is fine. You know that the mission is over
46:43 <Mekkis> The problem is if you don't...
46:51 <Ballig> :O
48:43 <Brunius> I have played through it
48:55 <Mekkis> ok
49:17 <Ballig> I can't use PP to get raise dead on another character can I
49:37 <Mekkis> then depending on how you played it, who DMed it, and all that, you might have avoided it
49:52 <Mekkis> Ballig, you can, if the other character is in your party
49:58 <Mekkis> and you're feeling really charitable
50:01 <Ballig> he was in my party once
50:10 <Mekkis> nope
50:21 <Ballig> one more PP and I can get Roger raised !
50:25 <Ballig> haha
50:42 <Brunius> Mekkis: Can I have one character aim to res his brother, who died in a certain TPK?
51:01 <Mekkis> I wouldn't allow it
51:11 <Ballig> haha
51:16 <Mekkis> but my ruling doesn't count
51:28 <Ballig> I think that'd be hilarious
51:34 <Ballig> both of us using PP to raise level 1 charactres
52:25 <Brunius> I mean using gold
52:26 <Brunius> Not PP
52:47 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> I wouldn't allow it
52:47 <Mekkis> <Mekkis> but my ruling doesn't count
52:57 <Ballig> how much gold do you have
53:01 <Ballig> the material component is 5k
53:02 <Mekkis> that being said, I definitely wouldn't recommend it
53:06 <Brunius> He's aiming for it, Ballig
53:15 <Brunius> But Mekkis, his brother has DIED
53:16 <Ballig> you realise raise dead has a 1 day per caster level limitation
53:29 <Brunius> And he has a choice to try to get him back
53:35 <Brunius> Ressurection?
53:52 <Mekkis> actually, I don't recommend any sort of raise dead / resurrection if paid for with gold
54:08 <Ballig> material component of resurrection is 10k
54:29 <Brunius> That's only about level 
54:30 <Brunius> 6
54:56 <Mekkis> congratulations
55:00 <Ballig> should I sell my +1 breastplate and buy +1 fullplate
55:07 <Mekkis> now you have a completely ineffective level 6 character !
55:13 <Ballig> haha yeah
55:42 <Ballig> might have to buy a masterwork breastplate barding for my pony
55:50 <Mekkis> but you have a living first level character !
56:34 <Ballig> a living first level character with -1 con, probably
57:05 <Ballig> I'd buy full plate barding but holy shit that's expensive
57:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> hey mekkis, is a final result of fighter1/bard(dawnflower dancer)1)battle oracle10 a good goal to try and reach in PFS?
57:56 <Mekkis> only one of those classes I understand, and fighter 1 is a good start
57:59 <Mekkis> so go for it !
58:05 <Brunius> ha
58:17 <Brunius> I should give spaceshot a colour
58:22 <Brunius> What colour do you want Spaceshot
58:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> mauve
58:27 <Ballig> pink
58:29 <Ballig> same thing
58:30 <Mekkis> Ballig, not changing your pony to a wolf?
58:33 <Mekkis> or riding dog
58:36 <Mekkis> or w/e?
58:41 <Ballig> you want me to kill my pony? :(
58:46 <Ballig> don't I have to be level 4 for that
58:53 <Mekkis> aren't you?
58:54 <Spaceshot_tm2> I still think you should of taken the archetype
59:01 <Ballig> cav3/ftr1
59:02 <Spaceshot_tm2> that gives you monsterous mounts
59:22 <Ballig> I'm not a munchkin spaceshot
59:22 <Ballig> ha ha!
59:27 <Mekkis> I think that you should have actually played some PFS before you make suggestions to those who do, Spaceshot_tm2 
59:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> ??
00:02 <Ballig> I actually am heavily considering not spending much gold on my mount's armour though
00:05 <Ballig> in case I do want to change him next level
00:16 <Mekkis> take a level in druid !
00:27 <Ballig> I've considered it :p
00:44 <Mekkis> hmmm
00:56 <Mekkis> if there is a con in canberra that I go to, would you come?
01:16 <Ballig> maybe
01:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> like cancon?
01:30 <Brunius> Is that cancon
01:45 <Brunius> Isn't cancon the same weekend as arcanacon?
01:56 <Mekkis> is it?
02:03 <Brunius> I think so
02:05 <Mekkis> oh
02:06 <Mekkis> it is
07:27 <Ballig> a boar would be pretty decent
07:42 <Ballig> only one attack, but it would be gore +7 1d8+5
07:48 <Ballig> with 35hp
08:17 <Mekkis> a roc is better
08:19 <Ballig> and base 17 AC (20 with my current mount's armour)
08:28 <Ballig> yeah but rocs are clearly overpowered :p
08:35 <Ballig> and should never be available to a first level druid
09:22 <Mekkis> in my defence, Grolschmir was created just after the Bestiary was released
09:29 <Ballig> it's like cavaliers get to choose between an old commodore or a new commodore
09:33 <Ballig> and druids have access to a ferrari
09:47 <Mekkis> heh
10:19 <Mekkis> I like that analogu
10:20 <Mekkis> y
10:42 <Ballig> it's tempting to do, but I'd be worried about a rules interpretation nerfing me
10:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> still don't see rocs being lvl2
10:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> lvl1
11:02 <Ballig> a roc at level 1 druid is PFS legal
13:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> how?
13:37 <Ballig> what do you mean how
13:45 <Ballig> it's listed in the bestiary as available at level 1 for a druid or ranger companion
13:59 <Ballig> there is a rule specifically not allowing rangers to take anything that's not in the core rulebook, but no such PFS rule exists for druid
14:32 <Brunius> So until someone points it out, Mekkis is breaking the system
14:33 <Brunius> As usual.
15:04 <Ballig> I think it's more likely that the rules interpretation will be on his roc wearing a wondrous item
15:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> no I mean why wouldn't it be said no
15:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> in PFS
15:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> as a mount
15:47 <Ballig> it isn't
15:49 <Spaceshot_tm2> since for every other class it is
15:57 <Ballig> what do you mean every other class
17:13 <Brunius> It's an animal companion
17:15 <Brunius> Not a mount
19:07 <Ballig> rangers still get animal companions right?
19:10 <Ballig> for some reason I'm completely missing it
19:35 <Brunius> Spaceshot_tm2?
20:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> sorry, was playing uniball
22:46 <Ballig> ah there it is, they get it at level 4
26:01 <Ballig> I could get a wolf instead of a boar, slightly lower attack, hp, and damage
26:03 <Ballig> but can trip
26:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> ballig; what I was getting at was that other classes that can get animal companions (clerics/oracles/I think there's another)
27:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't get fancy animal companinos
27:04 <Ballig> clerics get animal companions?
27:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> companions*
27:12 <Ballig> domain clerics?
27:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> animal domain speciality I believe
27:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> they get it like rangers I think
27:33 <Ballig> you need to keep in mind that animal companion is a significant part of the druid class feature
27:40 <Ballig> whereas an animal companion from a domain is meant to be minor
28:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> oracles also get animal companion, at same strength as a druid, for just 1 feat
28:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> and counts as a mount with 6int
28:16 <Ballig> an example of other domain abilities are: 1d4+2 healing on a touch but only for someone who has less than 0hp
28:23 <Ballig> if you could get a roc with the animal domain, everyone would take it
28:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> look up oracle then
28:42 <Spaceshot_tm2> nature oracle, APG
28:58 <Ballig> is that an archetype
29:05 <Brunius> I should use acid dart from earth domain more often
29:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope
29:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's part of the normal oracle, just taking the nature tree
29:36 <Ballig> it's exactly the same as cavalier choices
29:41 <Ballig> it's a mount, not an animal companion
29:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> yes, but it's an animal companion
29:52 <ChuckBrowneyes> anyone been playing swtor
29:53 <Ballig> no it's a mount
29:55 <Ballig> it's the same as the cavalier mount
30:01 <Ballig> and those trees are the same as cavalier orders
30:12 <Ballig> an example of an order's special ability: +2 to one saving throw
30:15 <Spaceshot_tm2> read it
30:19 <Ballig> yes
30:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> fully
30:22 <Ballig> it's called /Bonded Mount/
30:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> it counts as a druid's animal companion
30:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> THAT PART
30:31 <Ballig> I'm aware that it says it acts as an animal companion
30:34 <Ballig> my cavalier's mount does too
30:36 <Ballig> but it's a MOUNT
30:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's a fucking companion
30:41 <Ballig> dude
30:41 <Spaceshot_tm2> the name doesn't mean squat
30:44 <Ballig> my cavalier's mount is IDENTICAL
30:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> what it does means squat
30:49 <Ballig> the exact same choices
31:00 <Ballig> also counts as a druid animal companion
31:07 <Ballig> point is, the druid animal companion is a CORE aspect of their class
31:13 <Ballig> you are pointing out a tree and saying "why can't I get a roc?"
31:21 <Ballig> well hell, as a cavalier, why can't *I* get a roc? you tell me that
31:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> you can get a roc with an archetype
31:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> I think it lowers your armour down to medium
31:53 <Ballig> I have an archetype already
31:59 <Ballig> which suits my character vision much better
32:05 <Mekkis> keep in mind that UC didn't exist when Bobbob was created
32:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea, but you can alter your character when a new book comes out
32:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> we discussed this the last time we had this discussion
32:42 <Mekkis> [citation needed]
32:43 <Ballig> the beastmaster archetype didn't suit my character vision
32:50 <Avatar> you can't get a roc because it would make you overpowered
33:02 <Brunius> Needs to be blue Mekkis
33:05 <Ballig> anyway, point remains: animal companion is a much more important class feature for druid than it is for a nature oracle or even a cavalier
33:08 <Ballig> it makes sense that they get more options
33:18 <Ballig> I just think that roc is an overpowered, probably heavily under-playtested option
33:26 <Spaceshot_tm2> they already have awesome spells, and eventual good shapeshifting
33:31 <Brunius> [citation needed]
33:33 <Avatar> it would probably be okay if having a roc meant as a restriction you would never be able to multiclass
33:40 <Mekkis> Brunius, colours aren't part of RFC1459
33:48 <Avatar> or not until like level 7 where it becomes sort of okay
34:02 <Ballig> if roc was a high-level druid option, that'd probably be okay
34:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea it would be
34:08 <Avatar> yeah
34:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> but since it isn't, it's balls
34:26 <Ballig> I certainly wouldn't argue that other classes sh ould be able to get it too
34:31 <Ballig> I think no class should be able to get it (at least not at level 1)
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35:49 <Ballig> Mekkis: so Mekkis, do you think losing 4hp, +1 attack bonus, 1d2+3 damage and a feat on a mount is worth gaining trip?
36:03 <Mekkis> you know how much I like trip
36:13 <Ballig> I like trip too
36:15 <Ballig> it's a tough choice
36:40 <Mekkis> and a wolf-rider is rather cool
37:10 <Spaceshot_tm2> do rocs count as suitable mounts for a small character?
37:17 <Ballig> yeah
37:21 <Ballig> the animal companion version
38:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> so for an oracle, since it's a mount, and an animal companion
38:40 <Spaceshot_tm2> XD
39:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> I don't really care if I don't get a roc, I just want more options than pony
40:00 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
40:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> for a nature oracle
40:11 <Brunius> Ponies are awesome man
40:13 <Avatar> like a cheetah
40:19 <Brunius> They made a whole show about them
40:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> for charging
40:28 <Spaceshot_tm2> I'm not really gonna use it as a mount if I don't need to :P
40:38 <Brunius> It's called "My Little Pony"
40:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> since a mounted practically blind person isn't the best
41:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> or mounted deaf isn't either
41:19 <Spaceshot_tm2> but it is a cheat for a lame oracle :P
41:43 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: the oracle gives you very specific options
41:45 <Ballig> just like cavalier
41:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> or anything that is suitable as a mount
42:00 <Ballig> no
42:01 <Ballig> it doesn't say that
42:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> I wouldn't call that specific
42:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> and yea it does
42:09 <Ballig> no it doesn't
42:20 <Avatar> hmmm I get a stat bonus
42:24 <Ballig> The creature must be 
42:24 <Ballig> one that you are capable of riding and is suitable as a mount. 
42:24 <Ballig> A  Medium  oracle  can  select  a  camel  or  a  horse.  A  Small 
42:24 <Ballig> oracle can select a pony or wolf, but can also select a boar or 
42:24 <Ballig> a dog if she is at least 4th level.
42:29 <Ballig> that isn't "you can get a pony OR SOMETHING THAT IS SUITABLE"
42:30 <Avatar> con or dex
42:30 <Spaceshot_tm2> yea, yea it does
42:34 <Ballig> it tells you that it must be suitable, then it gives you specific options
42:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> [11:12.22] <Ballig> The creature must be 
42:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> [11:12.22] <Ballig> one that you are capable of riding and is suitable as a mount. 
42:56 <Ballig> yes
42:57 <Ballig> it must be
43:01 <Ballig> and then it MUST BE one of the options
43:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> doesn't say MUST
43:16 <Ballig> it doesn't say "or" either, does it
43:33 <Ballig> it's very cut and dry
43:41 <Ballig> a small character can select a pony or a wolf
43:45 <Avatar> what do you mean it doesnt say must be
43:50 <Ballig> and that pony or wolf must be suitable as a mount
43:52 <Ballig> and capable of riding
44:25 <Ballig> trust me man, if there was a way to argue a roc in that description I would be arguing it, as the description is exactly the same for cavalier
44:38 <Ballig> hell, cavalier actually goes one step further
44:43 <Ballig> The GM might approve other animals 
44:43 <Ballig> as suitable mounts. 
44:49 <Ballig> your oracle one doesn't give you that leeway
44:56 <Ballig> unfortunately you can't take "GM might approve" in PFS
44:56 <Avatar> oh, one of the options
45:03 <Avatar> yeah spaceshot that rule isn't flexible
45:14 <Ballig> Avatar: he thinks the text means you can take a pony or a wolf... or anything that is ridable and suitable as a mount
45:19 <Avatar> yeah I get it now
45:44 <Ballig> I will take a fleshraker dinosaur
45:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> but you can take GM won't approve in PFS?
46:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> if it's able?
46:18 <Spaceshot_tm2> such as putting gear on your body rather than a backpack
46:23 <Ballig> ooh I want a Deinonychus
46:37 <Avatar> I'm pretty sure you need a backpack unless it's the kind of thing you can somehow attach to your outfit
46:40 <Avatar> or hold in your hands
46:41 <Ballig> Spaceshot_tm2: if something says "the GM might approve <alternate>" you won't be able to take it in PFS
46:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> no that I know
46:52 <Ballig> and seriously, can we not start the backpack argument again
46:58 <Ballig> everything has been argued
47:00 <Ballig> you can either agree or not
54:44 <Avatar> the sega complete pack is currently $150
54:49 <Avatar> normally - get this - $876
56:19 <Ballig> haha my ass it's normally $876
56:27 <Ballig> how many of those games are so shit the only way they can sell them is in a pack
57:14 <Avatar> some are shit
57:20 <Avatar> there are two columns games
57:34 <Avatar> but it's 80 games in there
57:53 <Avatar> looks like about 1/3 of them might be shit ones
58:00 <Mekkis> DevCA is normally - get this $932,462,302.95
58:22 <Avatar> setting prices for other people's software now are you 
58:39 <Mekkis> yep
58:47 <Mekkis> that's for the Symbian version
58:58 <Ballig> that's a lot of money
59:01 <Ballig> what cut is mine
59:09 <Mekkis> you get 85%
59:17 <Avatar> what cut is mine
59:22 <Ballig> 0.5%
59:25 <Avatar> forget that
59:32 <Avatar> you don't get to call me a jerk for only 0.5%
59:43 <Ballig> you realise that's $4,662,311 right
59:46 <Ballig> you don't want it?
59:50 <Avatar> that's not enough
59:51 <Mekkis> PER SALE !
59:53 <Ballig> okay
59:57 <Ballig> you don't get it then :p
00:03 <Avatar> I'll take 10% I guess
00:10 <Ballig> no it was 0.5%, you threw it back in my face
00:12 <Ballig> you don't get anything now
00:19 <Avatar> I'll take the 10%
00:27 <Ballig> 10% was never offered
00:58 <Avatar> yeah that's ok I did you the courtesy of just taking it 
01:05 <Ballig> so I briefly saw this picture on reddit the other day (there's no guarantee any of it was actually true) that a guy gave his friend a scratch lottery ticket for christmas and the guy won the "$100,000 a year for the rest of your life" prize
01:14 <Ballig> if someone bought you a lottery ticket and you won that, would you be givinga ny of that to the friend
03:19 <Avatar> I don't know why but I am having some trouble levelling up this character
04:10 <Mekkis> Avatar, got your level 9?
05:00 <Avatar> yeah
05:02 <Avatar> well, sort of
05:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> you have a level 9?
05:24 <Avatar> for ballig's module
05:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> oh
05:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> don't you have to play a pregen to get any credit?
05:55 <Ballig> no
05:59 <Ballig> you can play an existing character
06:05 <Ballig> or you can play a pregenerated level 9 character
06:21 <Ballig> (a pregenerated character is simply a PFS-legal character that hasn't been played and has no prestige, anyone can make one)
29:56 <Avatar> steam is dangerous
30:03 <Ballig> yep
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38:25 <Avatar> 2.30pm tomorrow for continuing shades of ice 1
38:44 <Avatar> hopefully thelen sees that 
47:46 <Spaceshot_tm2> steam? dangerous? never
48:12 <Ballig> it is when you have money
48:16 <Avatar> what do you reckon for level 4 upgrade
48:17 <Avatar> con or dex
48:23 <Avatar> 13 con, 16 dex
48:24 <Avatar> +1 to where
48:26 <Ballig> ouch
48:34 <Avatar> on a gunslinger
48:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> this for you're normal character?
48:36 <Ballig> dex sets you up b etter, but you get an immediate bonus from the con
48:47 <Spaceshot_tm2> do you have other odd stats?
48:49 <Avatar> the con gives me an advantage all the way
48:58 <Ballig> yeah but the con increase is immediate
48:59 <Avatar> dex I wouldn't be able to upgrade for 4 more levels
49:02 <Ballig> because you're going from a +1 to a +2 modifier
49:03 <Avatar> and con is fort save too
49:08 <Ballig> dex you won't get an immediate bonus
49:11 <Spaceshot_tm2> what's your stat lineup?
49:22 <Avatar> the rest of the stats don't matter
49:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> sure they do
49:31 <Avatar> why
49:35 <Spaceshot_tm2> if any of the others are odd
49:38 <Avatar> they're not
49:39 <Ballig> so it's +4hp and +1 fortitude right now, or maybe +1 attack in 4 more levels
49:49 <Avatar> the only other option is wis, but i'm not upgrading that for more grit
49:52 <Spaceshot_tm2> and +1 AC +1 reflex
49:57 <Ballig> yeah yeah
49:57 <Ballig> :p
50:01 <Spaceshot_tm2> grit is useful
50:01 <Ballig> in 4 more levels!
50:07 <Spaceshot_tm2> since you get full each scenario
50:08 <Avatar> I have enough grit
50:11 <Avatar> I burnt a feat on it
50:20 <Spaceshot_tm2> ??? hahaha
50:37 <Avatar> well I didnt' expect pistol whip to fuck me over
50:43 <Spaceshot_tm2> :P
51:01 <Avatar> I'm likely going to take the con I think
51:04 <Spaceshot_tm2> many of the Extra (class ability) feats are good
51:09 <Spaceshot_tm2> extra grit isn't really
51:21 <Spaceshot_tm2> unless you base yourself around spamming a grit ability
51:24 <Avatar> the point was that I wanted to be able to use my gun as a melee weapon
51:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> why?
51:30 <Avatar> switching weapons was giving me the shits
51:44 <Spaceshot_tm2> didn't you specifically get musket so you had good range compared to pistols?
51:44 <Avatar> but half of that was so that I could make AoO's with it
51:53 <Avatar> yeah
51:57 <Spaceshot_tm2> you're confusing
51:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> as fuck
52:01 <Avatar> better range, better damage
52:14 <Spaceshot_tm2> not better damage than duel pistols though
52:24 <Avatar> reloading dual pistols is a nightmare, I think
52:29 <Spaceshot_tm2> nope
52:34 <Spaceshot_tm2> just takes 6 free actions
52:38 <Spaceshot_tm2> well, 2 feats
52:51 <Spaceshot_tm2> rapid reload and quick draw
52:51 <Avatar> well the logistics of it was too much to worry about
52:57 <Avatar> not to mention the lower damage and lower range
52:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> and having the gun sling
53:00 <Ballig> there's a limit to free actions
53:12 <Avatar> I don't think there is in terms of this
53:13 <Spaceshot_tm2> GM's limit I know
53:32 <Spaceshot_tm2> but if it's the only way you can fire more than 1 shot in a pistol in a full round attack
53:39 <Spaceshot_tm2> they'd probably let it slide once they know the combo
54:14 <Avatar> it's a well accepted build
54:19 <Avatar> not considered an abus
54:20 <Avatar> e
55:05 <Spaceshot_tm2> not really
55:16 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's considered bad writting on paizo's part
55:27 <Spaceshot_tm2> since all the gunslinger art is duel pistols
56:03 <Spaceshot_tm2> http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderRPG/rules/dualWieldGunslingerRules
56:04 <Avatar> what has the art got to do with anything
56:06 <Spaceshot_tm2> in there is the combo
57:18 <Avatar> yeah, does the dual wielding pistol need quick draw?
57:28 <Avatar> two hands to reload
57:59 <Spaceshot_tm2> maybe not quick draw, not sure how weapon straps work
58:08 <Spaceshot_tm2> it's a bit further down is the weapon straps combo
58:40 <Avatar> what are weapon straps
59:48 <Spaceshot_tm2> straps that keep a weapon around your body when you let go
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