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03:13:19 <prometheus> why are crystals generally in a metal housing?
03:13:26 <prometheus> and not like this for example
03:13:36 <prometheus> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/VX7SKf6V/IMG_20211017_175812.jpg
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09:32:14 <Ampera> pussy
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09:44:45 <T3sl4> prometheus: they need free space inside to resonate. plastic or dipped ones tend to be ceramic resonators, with different properties
09:45:00 <T3sl4> the other option is a ceramic package, which is hollow inside
09:47:21 <prometheus> ah yes of course, ceramic resonator
09:47:28 <prometheus> that was a big brain fart on my part for not remembering they exist ahhaha
09:47:46 <T3sl4> no worry
09:47:48 <prometheus> in my defense never used one, I always go with the crystal
09:47:57 <prometheus> thanks for the insight :)
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11:43:37 <Nothing\> i was just thinking, there was this game way back in the day, maybe 10-15 years ago that was like a network based multiplayer tetris game with power-ups and stuff like that
11:44:05 <Nothing\> it was called tetrinet or something, but not tetrinet because I remember I always mistakeningly tohught that was it.
11:44:22 <Nothing\> but i was ithkning, it'd be fun to get some multiplayer sessions of a game like that going on here
11:44:40 <Nothing\> or better yet, i know zsnes allows for network play
11:44:53 <Nothing\> we could get some 4 player super bomber man going
11:45:27 <Nothing\> not sure what other games used the multitap on the snes
11:46:05 <Nothing\> it's too bad you guys don't have switches. We could get some mario kart going and stuff
11:46:20 <Nothing\> back in the day on my old server we used to play mario kart on the wii together
11:46:47 <steve30> my Mum has bought a new dishwasher
11:47:25 <steve30> Multiplayer tetris sounds strange
11:47:25 <Nothing\> lucky
11:47:33 <Nothing\> i wish i had a dishwasher
11:47:39 <Nothing\> no room for one here though
11:47:47 * Ampera hugs Nothing\
11:48:16 <Nothing\> steve30, heh lately i've been playing this game on the switch called tetris 99 which is a multiplayer tetris game you play against 98 other people simultaneously
11:49:25 <Nothing\> it's fast paced action and hard to keep track of who's being affected by your actions and in what way. But it's fun. And free for the multiplayer version, sorta. Aside from the subscription for the online play service for the switch which is only $5 a month or less if you buy multiple months
11:49:26 <Nothing\> also
11:49:35 * Nothing\ tackle hugs Ampera <3
11:49:53 <Nothing\> Ampera, man i wish it could be a real hug today
11:49:58 <Nothing\> it's just one of those day
11:50:10 <Nothing\> you know, the sort where you start planning your own suicide
11:50:28 <steve30> multiplayer and subscriptions sound complicated
11:50:34 * steve30 has tetris on a cassette tape :)
11:50:34 <Ampera> if you need to plan a suicide you've already failed at doing it
11:50:40 <Nothing\> (it's months off and i probably won't do it anyways otherwise i'd take it more seriously myself)
11:51:02 <Nothing\> but that's just how... i dunno... desperate i am to get out of this world
11:51:16 <steve30> Despite having felt suicidal for a substantial part of my life I;ve never actually 'planned' it.
11:51:18 <Nothing\> lol steve30
11:51:34 <Ampera> Visions of my own death are quite common within my own mind
11:51:41 <Nothing\> steve30, i planned it one other time. Which scares me cuz that's when you know you're serious
11:51:42 <Ampera> though I must admit, they haven't been as common recently
11:51:43 <steve30> I haven't acutally played cassette tetris for ages. I should get it out
11:51:46 <Ampera> which is likely a good sign
11:52:03 <Ampera> If I actually wanted to commit suicide, I
11:52:06 <Nothing\> steve30, frankly the only reason i'm mentioning it in here is because i know you guys couldn't stop me very easily
11:52:06 <Ampera> 'd be dead right now.
11:52:15 <Nothing\> but usually i keep such matters to myself
11:52:15 <steve30> I do have a windows version called Klotz which i quite like
11:52:19 <Nothing\> brb meowing kitty
11:52:55 <Nothing\> i dunno what she wants
11:53:06 <Ampera> Of course we could stop you. It would be a somewhat trivial task to, in an emergency situation, get your IP address to government authorities in a way they could locate you and send police
11:53:24 <steve30> Nothing\, whilst I have do desire to encourage anyone to kill themselves, I don;t really support the idea of actively trying to stop them. Not that I could do that anyway over IRC.
11:53:58 <Ampera> I am of the personal opinion that any statement of intent to commit suicide on a public forum not specifically designed to discuss it is an attempt to get attention.
11:54:10 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah usually when i'm serious about it. or when i was that one other time i planned it months ahead of time. I told absolutely nobody.
11:54:13 <Ampera> Not necessarily for no reason, but there's little other reason to say it
11:54:31 <Nothing\> as opposed to the classical notion of being suicidal where you imagine the person brings it up any chance they get
11:54:33 <Ampera> The only time I believe a person is serious about suicide is when they try and succeed
11:54:51 <Nothing\> but as a teen i realized if i tell people, they can stop me. So if i'm serious it's best to keep it to myself.
11:55:11 <Nothing\> not to mention, psych wards suck
11:55:14 <steve30> Ampera, psychiatric illness is very common and just as likely to happen in an EE channel as any other channel/forum.
11:55:15 <Nothing\> i mean they're not terrible
11:55:32 <Nothing\> but being institutionalized in general is obviously an unpleasant experience
11:56:00 <Nothing\> but honestly, i put the odds at me going through with it as being very very low
11:56:11 <steve30> Nothing\, would that actually happen in your country? Here you'd be lucky to even see a doctor.
11:56:16 <Nothing\> especially because it would require that i abstain from drugs for some months before hand
11:56:34 <Nothing\> steve30, it might. But ime, it's not very likely.
11:56:47 <Nothing\> but it's still a liability i'd rather not take. You understand.
11:58:43 <Nothing\> steve30, for example when i was brought into the ER unconscious after overdosing on sleeping pills and alcohol, though they were completel oblivious to the sleeping pills somehow. Cuts all over my face and arms, and what I can only assume is a 2nd/3rd degree burn the size of a zippo on my forearm. Being argumentative when i was conscious to the point that they had to give me intramuscular sedation 3 times, PLUS 4
11:59:13 <Nothing\> They even told me straight up they were gonna put me in the mental health ward but an hour later they let me go
12:00:10 <Nothing\> i suspect it's because when i WAS in the ward last time i was a omplete pain in the ass and tehy coudn't find me a place to live, which meant they couldn't discharge me until I actually had a place to live etc etc
12:00:46 <Nothing\> they kept trying to discharge me, but i wound up staying at least a week longer than i should have
12:00:55 <Nothing\> which i didnt' mind. i was fine in there.
12:01:09 <Nothing\> at the time they actually had a smoking room right in the damn ward lol
12:01:26 <Nothing\> so we could all smoke our cigarettes right in the hospital
12:01:42 <steve30> How would they have known about the sleeping pills? Did you bring along some clues like an empty packet?
12:01:54 <Nothing\> it had heavy duty ventilation. But it still stunk the entire ward up like cigarettes ever time you opened the door.
12:02:05 <steve30> lol, its funny how once doctors actually recomended smoking :D
12:02:18 <Nothing\> steve30, i was found next to an empty bottle of sleeping pills that had been filled a couple days previous
12:02:26 <Nothing\> or at least no fewer than a couple days previous
12:02:36 <Nothing\> knowing me it was probably filled that night or the night before
12:02:41 <steve30> ah
12:02:58 <Nothing\> but yeah my last memory was taking a couple of those at maybe 6pm
12:03:20 <Nothing\> next thing i know it's 7:30am and i'm in a white room in restraints strapped to a bed
12:03:38 <Nothing\> screaming for someone to come and explain why i was in restraints
12:03:51 <Nothing\> the answer i was given? because i was screaming.
12:03:57 <steve30> Yeah, one would hope them not noticing those was a genuine mistake and not negligent.
12:03:57 <Nothing\> brilliant. no?
12:04:30 <Nothing\> steve30, the scary thing is, the sedatives they gave me IM to calm me down when I was in the hospital are drugs that are related to the ones i overdosed on
12:04:39 <Nothing\> so they would have only made the overdose worse
12:04:47 <steve30> ah
12:04:53 <Nothing\> but thankfully i tolerate such drugs better than most people
12:05:16 <Nothing\> so all those shots did was make me more angry, hence they had to give me more.
12:05:25 <Nothing\> lorazepam/ativan
12:06:03 <Nothing\> the 3rd shot they gave mewas haldol, which is a heavily sedating antipsychotic which works in a different way to those other drugs and that finally knocked me out.
12:06:27 <Nothing\> cuz that's what antipsychotics do. They're like super sedatives.
12:07:36 <steve30> I've never had anti psychotics. I know someone who takes Olanzapine, and has every side effect in the book.
12:07:37 <Nothing\> i took a really low dose of one called seroquel for over 10 years for my insomnia. The stuff was a godsend.
12:08:00 <Nothing\> apparently olanzepine is a benzodiazepine. At least structurally.
12:08:08 <Nothing\> Iwas really surprised to find that out.
12:08:26 <Nothing\> because it pharmaceutically, it doesn't act like one at all.
12:09:00 <Nothing\> and yeah steve30 at therapeutic doses, they have really nasty side effects. Especially if you take them during the day.-
12:09:34 <Nothing\> I mean, there's the severe sedation I mentioned alone. And it's not like benzos where it's "fun" if you fight it. No, it just feels like absolute crap.
12:10:59 <Nothing\> or on seroquel, I dunno if you've ever had RLS or that feeling of inner restlessness one gets with it. ut you get that in spades on them.
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12:14:10 <Nothing\> Even with seroquel, I was on 50mg for sleep, a common dose for mental health problems is maybe 200-400mg. And even at 50mg it was enough to make me sleep 15 hours a day
12:14:23 <Nothing\> and that's taking it at bedtime, i couldn't imagine taking it during the day.
12:15:03 <Nothing\> I was in a facility as a teen for 5 months, and there was a guy in there on all sorts of meds. I remember he used to get this really violent facial tics from them.
12:15:26 <Nothing\> but he had really bad schizophrenia. He'd always go around saying he was ghost. And stuff like that.
12:16:12 <Nothing\> that's the place where there was a class action suit against them for abusing their patients
12:16:51 <Nothing\> and a staff member in the unit i was in was arrested because he took a kid out into the woods behind the place, beat him half to death and left him for dead.
12:17:30 <Nothing\> but my experience was actually pretty fun
12:17:39 <Nothing\> for being instutionalized
12:18:01 <Nothing\> i made friends with the "cool kids" and one of them taught me to play guitar and read tablature
12:18:11 <Nothing\> and they had a drum set down there, so i learned drums
12:18:21 <Nothing\> and another of the kids had a bass, so he taught me bass
12:18:53 <Nothing\> we'd go swimming once a week or so cuz it was summer when i went in
12:19:11 <Nothing\> the staff were nice, and professional
12:19:35 <Nothing\> i was able to bring in stuff like my Gameboy Color and a Discman.
12:21:01 <Nothing\> lol they were supposed to check our music for anything with swearing, violence or anything of that nature, but they never caught it unless there was one of those 16+ labels on it
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12:21:25 <Nothing\> and despite me being 16, the unit was for 13-16 year olds, so they had to take that stuff away
12:23:02 <Nothing\> the only thing they ever took away from me was a NOFX album called "Ribbed" with a condom for the cover art
12:23:11 <steve30> at least there is something positive to such places
12:23:11 <Nothing\> so it had to be pretty blatant for them to catch it
12:23:58 <Nothing\> oh yeah. I only wish I'd taken the place seriously. I was supposed to be getting help with my drug problem and severe teenage disobedience.
12:24:54 <Nothing\> they let me go home on weekends though, so when I went home I'd justget messed up on morphine the whole time cuz a friend of mine had the hots for me and her dad had a script for morphine that she stole from for me
12:25:45 <Nothing\> i'd get messed up the second i got the chance, and stay messed upp until I had to return, which I returned messed up
12:26:19 <Nothing\> meanwhile they thought i was doing so good, i was supposed to be in for 6 months but they decided to reease me after 5
12:27:55 <steve30> so did you never really "improve" as a result of being there?
12:30:23 <Nothing\> nope
12:30:44 <Nothing\> a few weeks before my discharge they found some morphine tablets in my room during a random search
12:31:12 <Nothing\> so they called the police and had me arrested because for no reason what so ever, they were convinced i was selling it to other kids in there.
12:31:59 <Nothing\> actualy i shouldn't say tabletS. They found a single 15mg tablet. Which 15mg is a moderate-heavy dose for someone with no tolerance.
12:32:02 <Nothing\> just 1 dose
12:32:58 <Nothing\> and unfortunate for me, i was already on probation. My probation officer strong-armed me into going in there in the first place otherwise i never would have gone
12:33:07 <steve30> Who knows, you could have split it up into 10 smaller tablets and sold it to 10 people and made a fortune!
12:33:23 <Nothing\> lol yeah really
12:33:46 <Nothing\> i got lucky though. I cooperated because I didn't know any better back then.
12:34:03 <Nothing\> so I was just upfront with the cops and such.
12:34:40 <Nothing\> Thing is, technically the staff were considered my guardians because of me being in the custody of the facility
12:34:49 <Nothing\> so the police were able to question me without my parents there
12:35:55 <Nothing\> but it worked to my advantage cuz when word got back to the Sargent that was being a good boy, he decided to take the narcotics possession charge off of my rap sheet and just charge me for breaching the conditions of my probation
12:36:31 <Nothing\> PLUS instead of holding me in the county jail, they decided to just issue a promise to appear and let back into the custody of the psych hospital
12:37:06 <Nothing\> otherwise i woulda had to be held in a holding cell until a bail hearing in a day or two.
12:37:44 <Nothing\> ultimately I got 45 days in "open custody" and another 2 years of probation on top of the 2 years i'd already been serving
12:38:09 <Nothing\> open custody basically being like a halfway house you can't leave
12:38:30 <Nothing\> but that part sucked. I was abused something horrible by the other guys in there.
12:38:44 <Nothing\> especialyly in the first one
12:39:05 <Nothing\> thankfully i got transferred out of there to one closer to where i lived. and one that wasn't quite as bad.
12:39:43 <Nothing\> cuz the first one was almost just like a jail. very institutional in its appearance and operation.
12:40:19 <Nothing\> Whereas the second one where I live was in an actual house that was converted for this purpose
12:40:51 <Nothing\> we went on outtings to places like a trail on some waterfalls on the niagara escarptment
12:41:32 <Nothing\> i remember we evenwatched softcore porn on friday nights cuz we could watch tv until 11pm or something like that. And the softcore porn started at 10.
12:41:47 <Nothing\> so we'd always sneak a couple of episodes before bed.
12:42:04 <steve30> hehe
12:42:19 <Nothing\> bet even in there i got wailed on on a pretty regular basis by almost everyone in there. Save for a few genuinely good souls.
12:42:31 <Nothing\> or a couple others who just didn't care
12:42:51 <Nothing\> but thankfully it was never in the face
12:43:52 <Nothing\> that's a big reason i was so terrified about going to prison this time around. And why waiting over 2 years for my sentencing was worse on me than the actual sentence
12:44:45 <Nothing\> I was looking at 1-2 years. So I was expecting 1-2 years of THAT. Or worse, since it'd be an adult facility.
12:46:27 <Nothing\> but thank God I only wound up serving 10 days of a 90 day sentence that was supposedto be served on weekends but wasn't because of covid
12:47:06 <Nothing\> i was actually reading the statistics and since covid, only 80% of breach of probation charges have wound up in conviction
12:47:17 <Nothing\> and only 50% of charges for violent crimes
12:47:51 <steve30> I gather a lot of court hearings haven't gone ahead here due to covid.
12:47:54 <Nothing\> anyways steve30 i just wanna express my appreciation for you taking the time to read my ramblings/venting/whatever
12:48:10 <Nothing\> steve30, yeah they stopped them all together here for about a year or so
12:48:11 <steve30> Wouldn't want to risk the judge getting coronavirus from a criminal now would we? :D
12:48:47 <Nothing\> which made things difficult because as part of our rights, we have a right to a speedy trial, which is defined as a trial within 24 months of your arrest
12:48:56 <steve30> I knew someone who got arrested for corona-crimes and went to court a couple of days later but i don't know the outcome as i haven't seen her since.
12:49:31 <Nothing\> when i brought this up with my lawyer, and the fact that it'd been 26 months since my arrest, he just shrugged it off like it was no big deal
12:49:40 <Nothing\> saying "oh most people don't get off on that anyways"
12:49:47 <Nothing\> like he's not even going to try
12:49:55 <steve30> 24 months seems long for "speedy"
12:50:01 <Nothing\> yeha really
12:50:08 <Nothing\> especially if you're wrongfully detained
12:51:11 <steve30> Someone I know here got arrested last summer. He finally went to court this summer, and it got postponed till December. No idea what's taking them so long in his case.
12:51:12 <Nothing\> but yeah i guess because of coronovirus, people who get held awaiting sentencing or trial end up getting something like 2.5 days served for every 1 day they actually serve.
12:51:29 <Nothing\> the one prison here last i heard had something like 250 cases
12:51:59 <Nothing\> funny how prisoners weren't on their list of people who should be prioritized when getting the vaccine
12:52:12 <Nothing\> shit, do it for the sake of the guards if nothing else
12:52:32 <Nothing\> steve30, court's always really slow
12:52:49 <Nothing\> steve30, i've been to court for criminal matters... i think 4 times at least
12:53:05 <Nothing\> and it's always taken in excess of a year after my arrest before sentencing happened
12:53:13 <steve30> tbh I've no idea where prisoners are on the vaccine list here, although something like 90% of the country has had it, so i guess prisoners will have had one by now if they want it.
12:53:37 <Nothing\> yeah i'm happy to say i just got my second jab a couple weeks ago
12:53:39 <Nothing\> FINALLY
12:54:01 <Nothing\> lol my first jab was fine to get. Just walked into a pharmacy, bing bang boom, i'm done.
12:54:29 <Nothing\> second one though? I had to call all over town to try and find a pharmacy that had some
12:54:53 <Nothing\> the one i originally got mine at didn't have any when i tried to go back and didn't know when they were getting more
12:55:16 <Nothing\> and after waiting a couple of weeks i gave up and started calling around. lol 2nd place i tried had them.
12:56:03 <Nothing\> i was looking into how they work, and some of them almost seem to work the same way as some types of gene editing
12:56:18 <steve30> Despite my regular criticism of England's health services, its covid-vaccine rollout is something it can be proud of.
12:56:23 <Nothing\> like they'll put coronavirus dna inside of a virus
12:56:37 <Nothing\> and let that infect your cells and expose your immune system to it
12:58:06 <Nothing\> or the other type just use a snippet of coronavirus RNA to build those protein spikes that occur on the virus's surface that give it the name coronavirus
12:58:29 <Nothing\> so our immune system can see these spike proteins and be like "ahh so that's what i should be looking for"
12:58:58 <Nothing\> since the spike protein's the first thing that comes into contact with a cell (presumably)
12:59:27 <Nothing\> steve30, ours has been far from perfect and i have a lot of criticisms of it.
12:59:51 <Nothing\> Like it seems like they were more worried about gettingas many people as possible their first shot
13:00:09 <Nothing\> to the point where they were making other people wait up to 4 months for their second shot
13:00:37 <Nothing\> when the recommendation is 3 weeks. And manufacturers warned that waiting longer could impact future immunity
13:01:18 <Nothing\> it seemed to me the government was just trying to artificially inflate the numbers
13:01:53 <Nothing\> give as many people as possible their first jab so they can say "so far we've vaccinated so and so many people"
13:02:22 <Nothing\> when what they should be reporting is how many people have been fully vaccinated
13:03:29 <Nothing\> even i wound up waiting 5 weeks for mine with trouble i had
13:05:16 <Nothing\> heh i was just thinking for a second in a depressive manner "maybe i shouldn't have gotten vaccinated at all and i woulda got lucky and died" But I remembered when I get pneumonia and how horrible that was and remembered that dying of a respiratory illness, while not outright painful, is still agony beyond belief
13:06:16 * steve30 coffees
13:07:18 <Nothing\> dunno if you've ever had a respiratory disease before, but it's like you've just sprinted full hilt for as far and you can go. But no matter how hard you try, you just can't catch you breath. Maybe a very slighty bit. But you literally feel like you're slowly suffocating to death. Which i guess you are. But it's something you don't consider unless you've been through it yoruself.
13:07:28 <Nothing\> mm wish i had an iced cap
13:07:39 <Ampera> coffee is bad
13:07:42 <Ampera> tea is life
13:07:43 <Nothing\> i should pressure my mom to get another keurig
13:07:50 <Nothing\> and flavoured creamer
13:07:57 <Nothing\> christmas is around the corner
13:08:18 <Nothing\> Ampera, both are chock full of antioxidents, it's ridiculous
13:08:33 <Ampera> I hate christmas
13:08:35 <Ampera> it's my least favorite holiday
13:09:00 <Nothing\> frankly i'd wager that you'd gain all sorts of benefits from having one cup of tea and one cup of coffee every day
13:09:16 <Ampera> I tend to drink 2-4 cups of tea in a day
13:09:19 <Nothing\> that reminds me, apparently the queen's doctor told her she can't have her daily drink anymore
13:09:37 <Nothing\> because she used to have a martini every evening
13:10:12 <Nothing\> well, they said it was a martini, but the ingredients they listed weren't gin/vodka and vermouth
13:10:19 <Nothing\> lemme see if i can find it
13:11:19 <Nothing\> hrm i dunno, everything i can find at a glance says she drank dry martinis daily
13:11:35 <Nothing\> or i should say A dry martini daily
13:11:43 <Ampera> I hate alcohol
13:11:44 <Nothing\> that previous wording makse her sound like a souse
13:11:47 <Nothing\> me too
13:11:51 <Ampera> I hate you
13:11:56 <Nothing\> i can't even stand just half a beer
13:12:08 <Ampera> I hate everyone in this channel
13:12:10 <Ampera> especially myself
13:12:20 <Ampera> you are all depressing and incompetent and I wish I never joined this channel
13:12:20 <Nothing\> what, in the drug community would be called a threshold dose
13:12:36 <Nothing\> which is the smallest dose required to produce any sort of noticable effects
13:12:49 <Nothing\> even that, i can't stand with alcohol
13:13:02 <Nothing\> it just feels literally like poison to me
13:13:09 <Ampera> penis
13:13:09 <Ampera> dicks
13:13:11 <Ampera> cocks
13:13:19 <Nothing\> phallii
13:13:33 <Ampera> pbpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpbpbp
13:13:35 <Ampera> blpl
13:13:36 <Ampera> palsf
13:13:39 <Ampera> cunt
13:13:43 <Nothing\> i don't care baotu the whole greek root rule orwhatever it is
13:14:00 <Ampera> speaking of plumbum, I did some plumbing today
13:14:04 <Nothing\> i'm gonna start pluralizing all words ending with S by replacing the S with II
13:14:11 <Nothing\> oh yeah?
13:14:15 <Nothing\> what'd you do?
13:14:20 <Ampera> cut a pipe
13:14:21 <Nothing\> snake the throne?
13:14:25 <Ampera> drained a tank
13:14:28 <Ampera> cut another pipe
13:14:31 <Ampera> cut that same pipe again
13:14:35 <Ampera> capped that pipe off
13:14:37 <Ampera> cut another pipe
13:14:45 <Nothing\> right on
13:14:46 <Ampera> put a T on another pipe
13:14:50 <Ampera> put that T on the previous pipe
13:14:56 <steve30> I like beer. Can't drink a lot of it though.
13:14:56 <Nothing\> oh and the list goes on
13:15:01 <Nothing\> you've been a busy beaver
13:15:12 <Ampera> I made pancakes today
13:15:21 <Ampera> first time I've made pancakes since the last time I made pancakes
13:15:26 <Ampera> which is right around the time I last made pancakes
13:15:26 <Nothing\> steve30, i don't even like the taste of it. To be honest nothing about beer tastes like it's somithing I should be putting in my body.
13:15:35 <Nothing\> it tastes THAT bad to
13:15:37 <Nothing\> me
13:15:42 <Ampera> beer smells of and reminds me of vomit
13:15:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, now imagine beer vomit
13:15:59 <Nothing\> ugh
13:16:07 <Ampera> honestly that's not really any worse
13:16:14 <Ampera> once something is vomit, having it become vomit again doesn't really add to it
13:17:03 <Nothing\> but yeah i was just commenting to my doctor the other day how i haven't drank in some time because of how terrid (terrible+horrid) it feels
13:17:14 <Ampera> I hate doctors
13:17:25 <Nothing\> don't hate doctors
13:17:30 <Nothing\> hate the doctors who wronged you
13:17:34 <Ampera> I hate being told not to hate things
13:17:37 <Ampera> no doctors have wronged me
13:17:48 <Nothing\> generalizations are dangerous and can serve to hold us back in some situations
13:17:55 <Ampera> All canadians are racist
13:18:38 <Nothing\> Ampera, are you saying "no, doctors have wronged me."? or "no doctors have wronged me."?
13:18:43 <Ampera> Fuck I hate legumes
13:18:46 <Ampera> No.
13:18:47 <Ampera> Yes.
13:18:48 <Ampera> No.
13:18:49 <Ampera> Penis.
13:19:05 <Nothing\> Ampera, speaking of which i have a very suspicious scar on my penis
13:19:08 <Ampera> If there was a legume in front of me I'd launch it across the fucking room
13:19:12 <Ampera> teach it for being a fucking PLANT
13:19:22 <Nothing\> i dunno if you're circumcised or not
13:19:34 <Ampera> No, I am not disfigured
13:19:35 <Ampera> yet
13:19:40 <Nothing\> but i am, and coming from my circumcision scar, is this other scar
13:19:57 <Ampera> I hate circumcision
13:20:01 <Nothing\> it runs down the entire length of my penis to my scrotum from my circumcision scar
13:20:09 <Nothing\> but it's not just a straght scar
13:20:15 <Ampera> gay ass scar
13:20:39 <Nothing\> it goes on for a bit, sprits into two, then joins back into a single scare further down
13:20:49 <Nothing\> i've always wondered wtf caused it
13:21:07 <Ampera> and the moral of the story is not to stick your dick in a pig as it's being slaughtered
13:21:19 <Ampera> a valuable lesson we can all benefit from
13:21:33 <Ampera> fuck I hate facial hair
13:22:04 <Ampera> and everyone on the US west coast
13:22:10 <Nothing\> what really fucks me up about it is i have a friend who when he was 30, his mother confessed that when he was 2 or 3 one of her ex boyfriends abused him sexually to the point where his penis was disfigured and he needed plastic surgery to fix it
13:22:20 <Ampera> and god damn do I hate magnesium
13:22:24 <Ampera> bitch ass element
13:22:24 <Nothing\> so of course i'm immediately thinking what if something like that happened to me
13:22:29 <Nothing\> but i dunno
13:22:43 <Ampera> plastic surgery is for wimps
13:22:46 <Ampera> metal surgery is hardcore
13:23:03 <Nothing\> i don't want to trivialize the pain of people who have been abused
13:23:04 <Ampera> I don't want massive fake tiddies made of plastic, I want tiddies so hard that I can kill people just by hugging them
13:23:18 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol
13:23:22 <Nothing\> man
13:23:25 <Nothing\> thank you Ampera
13:23:43 <Nothing\> your antics are helping to keep my spirits up today
13:23:49 <Nothing\> a welcome change
13:23:50 <Ampera> I want people to look at my shiny metal ass as they get their fucking face destroyed as I slam on their head
13:24:13 <Nothing\> unfortunately i have to pee like crazy
13:24:14 * steve30 also dislikes facial hair
13:24:26 <Ampera> steve30, I'm planning on getting it lasered off at some point
13:24:31 <Nothing\> steve30, heh i don't mind it at all
13:24:32 <Ampera> basically whenever I get around to it
13:24:39 <steve30> cool
13:24:44 <Nothing\> stubble i don't like, but once you grow it past stubble, you don't even feel it
13:24:54 <steve30> that seems a bit too permanent for my liking
13:25:00 <Nothing\> until it gets long enough that the hair in the corners of your mouth get in your mouth
13:25:11 <Nothing\> or you can just plain feel the hair on your face
13:25:16 <Ampera> At this point in my life, I'm past the point where permanent matters for such things anymore
13:25:28 <Nothing\> but i find i usually have a month or so before i reac that point
13:25:36 <Nothing\> hence i only shave once a month or so
13:25:43 <Ampera> I just want it to piss off and not be noticeable ever again
13:25:49 <Nothing\> and i just shaved my head yesterday
13:25:58 <Nothing\> a nice, clean 1/4in
13:26:08 <Nothing\> i could never bring myself to shave it to the skin
13:26:51 <Nothing\> but i tell you, it's so much better just using a $40 pair of clippers to buzz my head once every month or two than pay the $20 it costs for a men's haircut here
13:26:54 <Ampera> it's been told that the words spoken by Robespierre each time he had a traitor to the revolution brought to the guillotine and decapitated was as such: "KNEEL DOWN AND GIVE ME HEAD"
13:26:58 <steve30> I edited a video of me cutting my hair recently. Couldn't bring myself to put it on youtube though.
13:27:11 <Nothing\> especially considering i still get charged $20 just for a buzz cut
13:27:13 <Ampera> Of course, this was never recorded, as it was France, and not too many people spoke English, and if they did, had no idea what he was on about anyways
13:27:24 <Nothing\> cuz they have to use 2 different lengths of clipper guards
13:27:26 <Ampera> I do not cut my hair
13:27:37 <Nothing\> one length for the sides ad back and another for the top
13:27:40 <Ampera> I'll consider it when it goes below my ass and I can sit on it
13:27:48 <Nothing\> Ampera, ever get a hair sliver?
13:27:51 <Nothing\> it sucks ass
13:27:58 <Ampera> don't you mean an ingrown hair?
13:28:06 <Nothing\> no this is something else
13:28:09 <Ampera> actually, I have gotten hair slivers
13:28:11 <Ampera> from my cats
13:28:26 <Ampera> inexplicably, every few months, I'll get one of my cats' hairs lodged deep into my foot
13:28:36 <Ampera> to where it's often quite difficult, even with tweezers, to remove
13:28:39 <Nothing\> this is where a hair external to your body, literally pierces your skin and becomes embedded inside your skin. Like a sliver
13:28:49 <Nothing\> apparently it happens to barbers all the time
13:28:59 <Ampera> fuck I hate time
13:29:00 <Nothing\> but i had one on my foot once and holy shit do they hurt
13:29:11 <steve30> never had that
13:29:11 <Nothing\> Ampera, i just hate this world in genere
13:29:12 <Ampera> time can bite my shiny metal ass
13:29:14 <Nothing\> general
13:29:16 <Ampera> I love this world
13:29:22 <Ampera> it's so full of things I can hate
13:29:23 <Ampera> >:D
13:29:32 <Ampera> I hate the notion of hating this world
13:29:34 <Nothing\> heh i got the futurama collection
13:29:41 <Nothing\> gonna go through em all with my mum
13:29:46 <Ampera> the what collection?
13:29:53 <Nothing\> i figured if she likes the simpsons she'll like futurama
13:30:04 <Ampera> I have no idea what those things are
13:30:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, what i call every episode and movie etc
13:30:14 <Ampera> huh?
13:30:26 <Nothing\> brb i have to make a sissy
13:30:39 <steve30> I have DVDs of all Futurama except the last few, which i downloaded off the internet
13:30:40 <Ampera> making a sissy is easy
13:30:43 <Nothing\> i'll be sure to weigh myself so i can get a before and after for you
13:30:58 <Ampera> you simply walk into a gym, and not planet fitness, like a really fucking back alley gym with some roiders in there
13:31:00 <Nothing\> Ampera, only while you're young
13:31:04 <Ampera> you walk up to the biggest, most brick wall fucking guy you can find
13:31:16 <Ampera> and then you fuck him in the ass so hard that he cries like a little bitch
13:31:40 <Ampera> like so hard that you're about to split him right down the middle
13:34:32 <Ampera> anyways I'm going to go to sleep
13:34:34 <Ampera> fuck I hate sleep
13:34:36 <Ampera> good night
13:34:37 <Ampera> fuck I hate night
13:38:56 <Nothing\> lol i tried to get a before and after
13:39:07 <Nothing\> my scale told my i just peed out 1.3 liters of urine
13:39:16 <Nothing\> or about 3lbs of pee
13:39:54 <Nothing\> though i did just move it from carpet to a proper hard floor cuz i was cleaning my bothroom floors
13:40:18 <Nothing\> so that probably jumbled something in its electrojigger
13:40:44 <Nothing\> that reminds me, Ampera
13:40:54 <Nothing\> have you seen this clip yet?
13:40:56 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW2LvQUcwqc
13:40:56 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Technical Jargon Overload
13:41:14 <Nothing\> i say yet cuz youtube keeps recommending it to me even i've watched it twice
13:41:42 <Nothing\> it's like their algorithm this the more you watch something, the more you're gonna watch it again later
13:42:12 <Nothing\> but it's the complete opposite. The more you watch something, the less novel it is so it stops being fun anymore and you don't care about it
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16:16:01 <steve30> youtube sent me an email saying "take the next step on your Windows by confirming your Google Account settings"
16:51:03 <T3sl4> cookies are in the oven
16:54:12 <steve30> mmm
16:54:25 * steve30 curls up next to T3sl4's oven
16:55:15 <T3sl4> using up those black walnuts i harvested a while ago
17:49:34 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
17:49:47 * T3sl4 jams a walnut cookie into Ysjoelfir's morning tea
17:50:06 * Ysjoelfir has boiling hot tea splattered all over his workbench
17:50:07 <Ysjoelfir> thanks.
17:50:38 <T3sl4> \o/ you're welcome
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18:49:51 <K> hello frogbits
18:51:48 <T3sl4> greetings toadling
18:52:00 * T3sl4 slides K a walnut cookie as well
18:52:27 <K> (suspicous)
18:53:06 <T3sl4> i made them myself
18:55:44 <K> (even more sus)
18:56:22 <T3sl4> the walnuts i mean
18:56:26 <T3sl4> well, sorta
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20:55:02 <Ysjoelfir> Mornings K
20:55:23 <Ysjoelfir> did the thing already arive? I would expect that to go a bit faster than electrohead's package
20:55:23 <K> i have the notes from post for the package!
20:55:31 <Ysjoelfir> nice!
20:55:43 <K> all going well, i'll pick them up today, or tomorrow morning
21:13:46 <Ysjoelfir> nice :) hope it can help you.
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22:46:41 <hsn> Hey guys .. any recommendations for control theory books? I want to buy one and start almost from zero.. i would love to know the basics (low level/ core) s-plane bode stuff. rather than the tools or methods like ziggler method in pid tuning.
22:47:12 <hsn> Interested to know the back-end (math) stuff .. :)
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23:13:16 <Ysjoelfir> mooornigns hsn
23:13:34 <Ysjoelfir> 1st - if you find some, please tell me
23:14:12 <Ysjoelfir> 2nd - I have one in german IIRC, can you remind me this evening that I send mrs. fiancee to look so I can check if its available in english as well?
23:15:16 <hsn> yes Ysjoelfir gm to you as well. thanks, i will try to ..
23:15:49 <Ysjoelfir> you are very welcome my friend, as always :)
23:23:56 <electrohead> o/
23:25:10 <DHess_US> https://imgur.com/gallery/HXKcI0T
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23:27:58 <Ampera> https://prnt.sc/1wlygso
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23:28:02 <Ampera> I haven't used Fusion 360 in ages
23:28:12 <Ampera> I just managed to install it on Linux, and I found an old project of mine
23:28:40 <Ysjoelfir> mornings electrohead
23:29:14 <electrohead> mournings
23:30:23 <Ysjoelfir> nice DHess_US :D
23:30:42 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera THAT looks cool! :D I would live in that if I would be the target group :P
23:30:55 <Ampera> it was never made, I can give you the model if you want it
23:31:25 <Ampera> maybe I should even upload it to thingiverse or something
23:34:31 <Ampera> btw, Ysjoelfir, how is your new job working out?
23:34:59 <Ysjoelfir> oh yes, I would totally build it if our old one gets destroyed some day. :)
23:35:12 <Ysjoelfir> my new job is working our find, I love it, its enjoyable and just so nice
23:35:17 <Ysjoelfir> moneywise it could be better, but meh.
23:35:34 <Ysjoelfir> i have fun, I enjoy it, so I can live with a lower salary
23:35:49 <Ampera> So long as you have the means to live
23:36:01 <Ysjoelfir> Yeah, thats true
23:36:04 <Ampera> The dynamic of money in life is so different in Germany I have no idea what a liveable wage is
23:36:13 <Ampera> here most things are cheap except cars and places to live
23:36:53 <electrohead> Ampera: that page doesn't load correctly for me at all
23:37:07 <Ampera> well stop using dildo as your browser
23:37:39 <Ampera> here, I'll take a screenshot of the page and give it to you
23:37:51 <Ysjoelfir> over here it gets more and more expensive every year.... inflation is very strong in recent years. 5 to 10 years ago my 3500€ (before tax) was realy good. nowadays its just a bit over average. I could not afford renting a 3 room apartmenr in any major city for that
23:38:09 <Ampera> https://prnt.sc/1wlzn5q there you go electrohead
23:38:09 <Ysjoelfir> also, taxes rise and rise and rise each year, so you already pay roughly 44% in taxes
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23:38:32 <Ampera> good god
23:38:36 <Ampera> your deductions must be insane
23:40:06 * electrohead violently smacks Ampera
23:40:27 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: according to USPS tracking, the package barely moved
23:40:44 <Ysjoelfir> but at least it did move somewhat?
23:41:17 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, deduction in terms of taxes?
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23:41:32 <Ampera> from your wage
23:41:39 <Ampera> unless you don't do that over there
23:42:01 <Ampera> here the government takes a chunk of our taxes, and if they're extra nice, they give you back some of what they stole
23:46:57 <Ysjoelfir> than I understood it correctly. our "Lohnsteuer" (=wage tax) is dependant on many factors, like if you are married or not, how much you earn and so on. its variable between 14 to 45 percent of your total income.
23:47:44 <K> but gobbirmint does the counting for your
23:48:23 <K> and you do not have to craycray about how much you "owe" to the man
23:49:08 <K> if anything, some expenses can be submitted and you get some of money back
23:49:13 <K> if you can be arsed, that is
23:49:36 <Ysjoelfir> exactly that.
23:49:54 <Ysjoelfir> and if you ONCE did that, you have to do it your whole life onwards.
23:52:34 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, so how do you make a mediocre wage and get top of the tax bracket
23:55:56 <Ysjoelfir> have a second job (the first one gets a lower tax rating) and earn enough money. there are points in the german salary systems where you actually get LESS money due to higher taxation if you get a raise, so you need to get a substantial raise if you don't want to loose money.
23:56:26 <Ampera> come here
23:56:30 <Ampera> taxes low
23:56:35 <Ampera> and we still want them lower
23:56:43 <Ampera> and we want the government to spend less
23:56:47 <Ampera> and we want the government to do more
23:57:07 <Ampera> chop chop
23:57:25 <Ysjoelfir> I am at that point after 6 months. I will raise to 4k/month. If I go over 4200 roughly I will actually loose 50€/month, so I would need to go over ~4400 to make up for that.
23:57:28 <Ysjoelfir> lol
23:57:56 <Ampera> I think I make 3k$/mo after taxes
23:58:02 <Ampera> what that is before taxes I'd have to look up
23:58:24 <K> isnt the taxation progressive thought?
23:58:42 <Ampera> the wha?
23:59:07 <K> well, first 1k gets 10% tax, next 1k gets 20%, everthing after that gets 30%
23:59:17 <Ampera> here?
23:59:22 <K> in getmanistan
23:59:25 <Ampera> oh
23:59:28 <K> getmanii
23:59:40 <Ampera> doucheland
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