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14:53 <steve30> yay coffee
37:45 <T3sl4> mmm, coffee
39:49 <T3sl4> Halcyon: think i'll keep my fingers out of it
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41:36 <electrohead> yeah, same
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07:02 <watcher> do someone now a webshop/warehouse on Europa ware you can get probemaster leads?
08:58 <rc-garage> welectron has them
09:43 <rc-garage> I think mouser do too
10:54 <watcher> i will look in to it
15:22 <watcher> welectron sales them
17:24 <hsn> ok
17:47 <hsn> https://www.youtube.com/c/TsodingDaily
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49:45 <Nothing\> welp, i got one day without pain
49:52 <Nothing\> i guess that's better than none
49:59 <Nothing\> just too bad it went by so fast
50:16 <Nothing\> lol i found a whole buncha walnuts for the squirrels in my backyard
50:29 <Nothing\> i threw some back there yesterday and they didn't bother with em
50:52 <Nothing\> went out for a coffee today, came back to piles of walnut peels all over my backyard lol
51:03 <Nothing\> those things make a hell of a mess
51:31 <rc-garage> you should teach them to put their crap in neat piles
51:32 <Nothing\> but i'm tempted to go back where that walnut tree is, fell it, cut it up and sell it
51:39 <Nothing\> walnut's an expensive weed
51:43 <Nothing\> wood
52:21 <rc-garage> these days, any wood is, lol
52:46 <Nothing\> i was looking and even with prices at a historical low, it's $16 per board foot for 6/4 black walnut
53:06 <Nothing\> which i think is half an inch thick
53:25 <Nothing\> oh, 1.5
53:30 <Nothing\> that's right, 4/4 is 1 inch
53:38 <rc-garage> board foot does not have much to do with a wet tree in your back yard. there is a lot of work and time to get anything good out of that
53:51 <Nothing\> yeah that's the thing
54:19 <Nothing\> i was trying to think of a way to even come to the very roughest of back of the envelope calculations for how much a black walnut tree would get you
54:25 <Nothing\> but there are just too many variables
54:47 <Nothing\> but i mean, with walnut you don't even have to cut it into regular plants
55:04 <Nothing\> you can just have natural pieces of wood with the bark still on it for more organic looking furniture
55:21 <Nothing\> hell, you can even buy old wood, like 100 years+ that's been refurbished
55:39 <Nothing\> destin on smarter every day did a video about how they refurbish it, it's pretty cool
55:51 <Nothing\> but damn expensive for a good piece of refurbished wood
56:23 <Nothing\> oh hey rc-garage
56:39 <Nothing\> remember how i was bitching about reddit's karma policy for new users?
56:46 <Nothing\> and how the admins took my 1 karma
56:49 <steve30> o/
56:53 <Nothing\> heya steve30
56:56 <Nothing\> hew's it going?
57:00 <Nothing\> er how
57:07 <Nothing\> heh guess i've still got wood on the brain
57:40 * steve30 is just wondering what to install on his thinkpad
57:47 <rc-garage> steve is typing very fast on his new confuser today
57:48 <Nothing\> either that or dvorak clumps my vowels so close to together that making a typo with my left hand is liable to just form an entirely different word all together just by replacing one vowel with another
58:01 <Nothing\> steve30, ebook reading software
58:13 <rc-garage> debian
58:29 <Nothing\> oh hey
58:34 <Nothing\> this is probably a dumb question
58:48 <Nothing\> but would binaries for raspbian work on debian as well?
59:23 <steve30> Raspbian is for ARM so probably not unless you are running debian on an ARM system
59:24 <Nothing\> i guess i could still do get to obtain binaries even if they weren't
59:34 <Nothing\> yeah that just occurred to me
59:56 <Nothing\> man they better have an x86 version of this 8051/52 simulator i fell in love with
00:33 <Nothing\> i just dunno whether to go to the trouble of trying to set up a VM, or just run my pi along with my regular computer
01:11 <Nothing\> i wouldn't mind playing with the GPIO on a pi anyways. I never did do anything with it.
01:49 <Nothing\> i think i halfheartedly tried a tutorial or two that involved something with python but i just felt like a lame-o coding python so i gave up
02:11 <Nothing\> i'd rather do it in pure machine language, in binary. None of that hex rubbish.
02:30 <Nothing\> ever code binary machine language on a 64 bit system?
02:40 <Nothing\> try memorizing THAT instruction table
02:45 <rc-garage> ssh into your pi?
03:00 <Nothing\> rc-garage, nah i can run it locally
03:02 <Nothing\> that's not an issue
03:56 <Nothing\> so rc-garage
04:06 <Nothing\> i came up with what's possible a great invention
04:17 <Nothing\> lemme know what you think
05:01 <Nothing\> so i was considering the issue of compliance when it comes to drug users/addicts who have no choice but to take narcotics. That is, ensuring they don't abuse their meds without being supervised 24/7
05:35 <rc-garage> I think everyone should listen to doppelalbum by kraftwerk right now
05:46 <Nothing\> and i was thinking, maybe something like a safe with a timer that dispenses the appropriate amount of medication only at a specific time of day
05:55 <Nothing\> and cannot be opened by anyone but the pharmacist
06:05 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
06:09 <Ampera> how are you doing nowhere man
06:10 <Nothing\> or a trusted individual like family or friends or social worker
06:13 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
06:25 <Nothing\> hey buddy, i'm in pain again but doing alright
06:40 <Nothing\> at least i got 1 day without pain
07:09 <Ampera> <3
07:11 <Nothing\> but anyways what do you think of something like that RC, and Ampera
07:17 <Nothing\> <3<3<3
07:23 <Ampera> hang in there, pain is temporary, the satisfaction from cheating death and suffering is eternal
07:25 <rc-garage> we do that here, it is like a tiny vendig machine sort of thing. used for people with dementia also, so they don't take their meds 3 times a day. they have some "tougher" versions of the machines, which could be used, I guess
07:37 <Ampera> something lioke wha
07:42 <Ampera> lemme read
07:43 <Nothing\> Ampera, tell that to my grandmother who suffered from fibro for 30 years until the day she died
07:50 <Nothing\> that pain is temporary
07:57 <Nothing\> then again, i guess she did die
08:02 <Nothing\> so conceivably, it DID end
08:09 <rc-garage> I hope she did, lol
08:12 <Nothing\> just not in the way one would expect
08:13 <Ampera> alright, if you don't like that proverb, then always know there's someone in worse pain than you right now
08:21 <rc-garage> it would be bad to bury her alive
08:41 <Nothing\> Ampera, heh thoughts like that always made me feel worse than better
09:07 <Nothing\> it's like "why would somebody else suffering WORSE than me make me happy? What kind of sadist do you take me for?"
09:11 <Ampera> Alright, if you don't start feeling better or at least cheered up I'm gonna beat you so hard the pain you're having right now won't seem like anything
09:20 <Nothing\> oh no i'm feeling fine mentally
09:22 <Nothing\> just in pain
09:25 <Ampera> I enjoy the suffering of others.
09:32 <Ampera> Most people do, it makes people feel good about themselves
09:36 <Nothing\> and i'm just playing devil's advocate here
09:53 <Nothing\> i like playing devil's advocate just for the sake of the mental exercise if nothing else
10:23 <Nothing\> Ampera, unfortunately i'm gonna miss out on the family thanksgiving tonight :/
10:33 <Ampera> oh right, you guys have thanksgiving really early
10:39 <Ampera> Nothing\, I have to tell you, you're damn lucky to miss out.
10:40 <Nothing\> but that's okay because i realized it's just an excuse for my cousin and his wife to show off their new home
10:54 <Nothing\> and i don't much feel like having somebody else's good fortunes rubbed in my face
10:55 <Ampera> It's better than being like me, and having to figure out what the fuck you're gonna do to celebrate a holiday you love with people you hate
11:04 <Nothing\> much as i'm happy for my cousin
11:14 <Nothing\> i'm just not in the mood for such things
11:17 <Ampera> I enjoy witnessing the success of others.
11:24 <Nothing\> i usually do too
11:29 <Ampera> Even if they wish to brag, I like seeing what people are capable of accomplishing
12:17 <Nothing\> honestly, i pray for the health and success of other humans in general, no one specific except to say that there are no exceptions to who my prayer applies to. Whether I hate them, they hate me, we get along, we have similar or different ideals etc
12:28 <Nothing\> i pray and hope the best for everyone just the same
12:37 <Nothing\> but that doesn't mean i want it rubbed in my face either
13:14 <Nothing\> and when my cousin hasn't invited me over a single damn time in over 10-15 years
13:30 <Nothing\> then he and his wife move and suddenly want us over for thanksgiving
13:37 <Nothing\> that tells me they just want to show off
13:54 <Nothing\> am i mistaken for thinking so?
14:08 <Nothing\> or for at least thinking there's an ulterior motive here
14:42 <Nothing\> i mean, i know i'm prone to paranoia and it can be hard for me to tell what's normal thinking and what's outlandish paranoid thinking
15:16 <Nothing\> i just screamed at my mom yesterday for gaslighting me yesterday. She was absolutely not doing any such thing and would in fact be the last person to do so to me.
15:50 <Nothing\> but i honest to god thought she was treating me like a child and then lying to me about it in an attempt to gaslight me, taking advantage of my childish innocence.
17:01 <Nothing\> which, my mom's the sweetest, most unconditionally loving person in the world and the only one who ever stuck by me through all of my problems. Plus she's honest to a fault. So she's the last person who would even consider doing such a thing.
17:31 <Nothing\> i wish i knew why my thoughts have become so irrational like that lately. I mean, you saw it yourself Ampera, when i put you on ignore.
18:03 <Nothing\> i can't say if i was right or wrong to do it, i just know my reaction was way exaggerated from what a normal person would do.
18:04 <Ampera> sounds like schizophrenia to me
18:07 <Ampera> but I don't know anything
18:24 <Nothing\> yeah, like clinical paranoia of some sort
18:26 <Ampera> it's interesting how closely schizophrenia and bipolar can be linked too
18:36 <Nothing\> but schizophrenia doesn't usually kick in until the 20s
18:38 <Ampera> I've seen it in my family, and only am just starting to learn about it
18:44 <Nothing\> so i should be well past the point where i'd develop it
18:58 <Ampera> The mind never works in easily explainable ways.
19:04 <Nothing\> Ampera, it's a scary condition, isn't it?
19:10 <Ampera> Mental health is a field which reinvents itself to be a new kind of wrong every minute
19:18 <Nothing\> if you've ever watched one of those schizophrenia simulations
19:26 <Ampera> I've learned the only help most people have is to try to understand their own minds as best they can
19:29 <Nothing\> things become so dark without warning
19:39 <Ampera> sounds like my dreams
19:41 <steve30> I know someone who has Schizophrenia. I read a 1980s medical text book once which had a piece about schizophrenia. It described him perfectly :)
19:47 <Ampera> and life
19:48 <Nothing\> the interesting thing is, i dunno if you read about schizophrenia in eastern cultures
19:59 <Nothing\> but apparently the hallucinations are actually pleasant in eastern cultures
20:12 <Nothing\> usually having to do with deceased relatives and helpful spritis and such
20:17 <Ampera> It's easy to give someone an outward description, especially if they have an acute and easily measurable mental problem
20:29 <Nothing\> whereas in the west they're mostly persecutory and malevolent
20:30 * steve30 needs coffee
20:37 <Ampera> however it is my belief that a lot, if not most, people with mental problems are a lot more fine grained than that
21:11 <Ampera> Nothing\, I kinda turn that on its head, I quite enjoy having disturbing visions and dreams
21:18 <Nothing\> Ampera, it's like i always say, no situation in life of any worth has a simple explanation for it.
21:25 <Nothing\> even if that worth is negative
21:32 <Ampera> I will occasionally dissociate into sort of daydreams where awful, terrible things happen to me or other people
21:48 <Ampera> and I've just learned to learn and be entertained by it, as none of it is real enough for me to care about
22:03 <Nothing\> that's a good attitude to have
22:08 <Nothing\> as long as they're not fantasies
22:22 <Nothing\> because fantasy turns into reality before you even realize what happened
22:28 <Nothing\> believe me
22:53 <Nothing\> much as i'd hate to admit it, part of why i started drugs was also to be cool
23:17 <Nothing\> i yearned for acceptance and the "cool" kids would hang out with me to smoke weed. So I learned that was a good way to fit in.
23:51 <Nothing\> of course most of those people were abusive but i didn't care. for the first time in my life i was hanging with the cool kids. So I just let them abuse me and take advantage of me etc
24:11 <Ampera> depends on how you define fantasy
24:15 <TheDude> funny how the cool factor fades in like 5 years
24:20 <TheDude> and then the sad factor sets in
24:21 <Ampera> in my opinion, a fantasy is simply a vision you wish would come true
24:25 <Nothing\> Ampera, thoughts which cause pleasure
24:34 <Ampera> All of them cause pleasure
24:49 <Nothing\> TheDude, i'll be honest, i still felt cool smoking cigarettes into my late 20's at least
24:54 <Nothing\> sometimes
24:57 <Ampera> but people gain pleasure from shooting virtual people in video games or watching movies about mass murderers
25:06 <Nothing\> not always, but sometimes i'd feel cool lighting up in the street
25:07 <Ampera> that doesn't mean they wish to really shoot people, or really witness a mass murder
25:39 <Nothing\> i guess
25:51 <Nothing\> just so long as you don't act on them-
25:56 <Nothing\> go all columbine on us
26:07 <Nothing\> you.. do know what columbine is... right?
26:30 <TheDude> sounds cool as fuck
26:48 <Nothing\> i have to admit, the two guys had cool sounding name
26:57 <Nothing\> at least dylan klebold did
27:09 <Nothing\> eric harris is just kinda boring and mundane
28:01 <Kuschelpony> https://www.richis-lab.de/Bipolar79.htm
28:02 <EEVBot> [Title] - Plessey Semiconductors SL3127C Transistorarray
28:21 <Nothing\> ooh another bjt array
28:31 <TheDude> sweet
28:37 <Nothing\> i just got an array i've been having trouble getting it to work
28:51 <TheDude> 6 transistors for making things like gilbert cells?
28:57 <Nothing\> it has a substrate pin, which it says to connect to the most negative part of the circuit, ie ground on a DC circuit
29:14 <Nothing\> but damned if the transistors still won't work. At least for a simple switch circuit
29:51 <Ampera> Nothing\, yeah columbine harvesters, those big machines that go into fields, browse the internet, learn how to make bombs, and then shoot up a school
29:57 <TheDude> oh no lol
30:11 <TheDude> I just now noticed it's 5 transistors
30:21 <TheDude> but there seems to be one extra, unconnected, on the die
30:28 <Kuschelpony> nothing, do you have a schmeatic and measured voltages? im sure we can troubleshoot
30:36 <Nothing\> oh, these are just NPNs
30:48 <Nothing\> Kuschelpony, nah not on hand
30:56 <Nothing\> it's okay though, it's too early for troubleshooting
30:58 <Kuschelpony> no problem
31:10 <Nothing\> i probably just hooked up E and C backwards or something
33:00 <Nothing\> mmm deviled eggs are coming
33:20 <Nothing\> sweet
33:35 <Nothing\> my mum said she'd tried to rustle me up some leftovers from thanksgiving dinner tonight
33:43 <Nothing\> i was worried i'd miss out on the free food
34:01 <Nothing\> YES IT'S THANKSGIVING TODAY
34:10 <Nothing\> if i didn't already make that clear enough
34:18 <Nothing\> i'm just gonna come right out and say it
34:31 <rc-garage> it is the what?
34:39 <Nothing\> thanksgiving
34:45 <Nothing\> not sure what we give thanks for
34:50 <rc-garage> oh. sorry about that
34:56 <Nothing\> but i know just a couple of weeks ago we had like, anti-thanksgiving
35:09 <Nothing\> a new stat holiday they made for the natives
35:23 <Nothing\> truth and reconciliation day
36:15 <Nothing\> think i'm gonna play some ff2/4
36:23 <Nothing\> i'm almost at the end of my first playthrough
36:28 <Nothing\> i'd say 2/3 done
37:01 <rc-garage> is that part of thanksgiving?
37:10 <Nothing\> it's so much harder than the north american version though. a lot more strategy involved in it than just mashing A over and over again
37:13 <Nothing\> which i like
37:26 <Nothing\> rc: yup, the playing of the final fantasy
37:33 <rc-garage> ah
37:55 <Nothing\> see the orbs/crystals/whatever represent the indians
37:57 <rc-garage> we don't do thanksviving over here. so I guess I can sit here and play solitaire
38:05 <Nothing\> and then the bad guys steal the indians
38:18 <Nothing\> like the canadian government putting them into residential schools
38:41 <Nothing\> and as members of the truth and reconciliation commity, it's your party's job to get them back
38:53 <Nothing\> at least taht's the narrative i got out of it
39:14 <Nothing\> i don't even know if final fantasy games bothered with crystals or elements after 8 or 9
39:25 <Nothing\> actually i don't remember any such thing in 7 either
40:14 <Nothing\> i gave up trying to beat 7. I've played it for like 20 years and no matter how close i come to beating it, something always comes up and i lose my playthrough
40:33 <Nothing\> last time i made it to like half-way through the 3rd disc and then the damn cops seized my shit
40:39 <Nothing\> they took my computers too
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41:05 <Nothing\> dunno what they wanted with my shit. Maybe they were gonna make jenkem
41:09 <Nothing\> hi Some_Person
42:09 <Nothing\> weird, this game on steam updated and now AVG's quarantined it as a virus
42:25 <Nothing\> and Ampera said i wouldn't get a virus if i didn't pirate games
42:32 <Nothing\> see what you've done, Ampera
42:42 <Nothing\> i can't even buy legit games without getting a damn virus
42:43 <Ampera> AVG is a virus
42:49 <Ampera> as are most antiviruses
43:06 <Nothing\> so i should get rid of it?
44:02 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
44:12 <electrohead> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
44:18 <rc-garage> I would not add any antivirus things to a modern windows. it only slows things down, and you get "false positives" and stuff
44:34 <Ampera> In general an antivirus is unnecessary so long as you have a security responsible mindset.
44:43 <Ampera> You do not, but that doesn't mean an antivirus will save you
45:28 <Ampera> Windows is a panic attack waiting to happen no matter what lipstick you put on it
45:39 <rc-garage> heh, security responsible mindset... he said, as my bench vise is on fire, lol
46:06 <rc-garage> oh well, it will stop
46:14 <Ampera> fire is fun
46:34 <rc-garage> yes, and not very cold either. it is pretty pretty
48:42 <Nothing\> hrm the developer said it could be something in unity causing a spurious error but he was unable to replicate it
49:14 <Nothing\> so i'll reinstall and submit the exe to avg as being incorrectly flagged
50:01 <Nothing\> lol i remember back in the day when you'd get cracks on BT, or Kazaa way back when
50:12 <Nothing\> and they'd set off warning bells for your antivirus
50:34 <Nothing\> and all of the comments are just like "yeah that's nothing to worry about, just go ahead and run them"
50:52 <Nothing\> for cracks or keygens or whatever
51:36 <Nothing\> i can see some triggering a warning since it screws around with other files automously but that's just all sorts of sketchy
12:59 <rc-garage> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z99w41FVpqY
13:00 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Soft Machine - Bundles (1975) (Full Album)
13:12 <Kuschelpony> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/renewable-energy/why-is-there-reverse-current-on-forward-converter-demagnetization/msg3739225/?topicseen#msg3739225 MOSFET D-S capacitance forms an resonant circuit like a television flyback
13:13 <EEVBot> [Title] - Why is there reverse current on Forward Converter demagnetization? - Page 1
22:40 * flyback bites rc-garage 
22:56 * flyback bites Kuschelpony 
23:15 <flyback> im telling you guys
23:24 <flyback> some of my most valiable tools
23:27 <rc-garage> mmmh. harder please
23:30 <flyback> a) ifixit protech tookit
23:44 <flyback> b) pololu prenium dupont connector wires
23:48 <flyback> c) usb power meters
24:07 <flyback> d) usb hub with power switches on it for debugging shit thru power cycling without wearing out your ports
24:12 <flyback> rc-garage, not that kind of bite
24:30 <rc-garage> awwww
24:48 <flyback> e) cp2104's with the vio/vdd resistor cut off so you can set the i/o voltage
25:02 <flyback> usb to serial modules
26:23 <flyback> cp2102n's will probably repace the cp2104's since they are discontinues but the offical cp2102 devel board doesn't have vio exposed so you can't set the i/o voltage so I need a 3rd party module
27:01 <flyback> b) was defintely worth the $50
27:14 <rc-garage> some times, I wish I would be more into nerdy stuff like that
27:20 <flyback> I bought like 50 of male-male, male-female, female-female cables
27:34 <flyback> they are so much better than the chinese shit you sneeze and the wires fal off
27:57 <flyback> e) so many things have hidden serial ports for factory use or more
28:00 <flyback> tv's monitors
28:01 <flyback> routers
28:02 <flyback> cable modems
28:05 <flyback> hard drives
28:10 <flyback> dildos
28:32 <flyback> phones (yes some of them have a switcable headphone jack that doubles as a uart)
28:40 <flyback> pinephone is one of them
28:51 <flyback> alarm systems, etc
29:06 <flyback> ok I dunno if dildos have a serial console, but you get the point :P
29:22 <flyback> usb flash drives, ssd's
29:37 <rc-garage> always keep your dildos firmware up to date
29:47 <flyback> not always sometimes they aren't easily exposed or disabled in the firmware after being programmed but not alway
30:08 <flyback> yeah im a guy so I don't plan on owning any dildos
30:19 <rc-garage> but they are very handy
30:28 <flyback> just saying serial uarts are very prevalent
30:42 <flyback> rpi's, orange pi, etc
31:01 <flyback> I had to wait 4 months for serial cables to talk to hard drives but it was worth it
31:03 <electrohead> o/
31:20 <flyback> needed 2.1MM to 2.0MM cables cause the uart is off the tiny sata jumper block on the drive
31:28 <rc-garage> yeah, talk to electrohead, he likes that stuff
31:57 <electrohead> just not the dildos
32:26 <flyback> im trying to see if I can make a generic driver for the chips in these usb to phoneline adaptors I bought off ebay
32:31 <rc-garage> they can save you a lot of work...
32:32 <flyback> to connect my house to garage
32:47 <flyback> the driver they had fro linux was lost with linksys's ftp site
33:10 <flyback> but the main controller chip is a chip linux has support for so I Might just have to copy the source kernel module and mangle the id's
33:16 <flyback> so the driver finds it
33:35 <flyback> else I will use 2 old xp thin clients to bridge between the usb nics and normal ethernet on both ends of the link
33:46 <flyback> they are homepna which works on phone wire or less
33:55 <flyback> which I happen to have between the house and garage
34:17 <flyback> they were popular in the early 2000' for home networks they sucked and did't work that well but for a p2p link it's probably fine
34:20 <flyback> 10mbit over phone wire
35:08 <rc-garage> heh. is it too much work to just use a normal ethernet cable?
35:10 <electrohead> I'm actually about to start playing with the teensy 4.1 and ethernet
35:24 <flyback> rc-garage, they are 50-100 feet apart and it's not my house
35:27 <electrohead> never used the teensy yet, so it's going to be a slight learning experience, I reckon
35:35 <flyback> and wifi doesn't penetrate the garage
35:51 <flyback> plus I was just curious if they would work over this old doorbell/phone line
36:41 <flyback> in my garage is my tv rotator antenna so I am going to have a orange pi in there running spyserver/rtl-tcp and streaming packets over the link
37:21 <flyback> rc-garage, if I could run a new cable i'd do a fiber link
37:25 <flyback> if anything
38:47 <flyback> the thin clients have xp embedded and should work the only thing I am not sure about is if they stripped out all the xp routing code out of xp embedded images
39:14 <flyback> I rather run openwrt on both ends of the link but I can't get that linux driver cause linksys ftp site is gone
40:24 <rc-garage> and you can not find something that looks about right on ciscos site?
40:40 <flyback> oh well I am only out $20 if they don't work (waiting for the other one to arrive)
40:47 <flyback> yeah
43:06 <flyback> there might not have been a driver for the usb module, only the pci card and I missed that detail befre I ordered anyways
43:55 <flyback> since my thin clients are x86
44:03 <flyback> I could use ndiswrapper in linux on openwrt
44:39 <flyback> for now I just need to install xp on 2 laptops I own for testing the modules and link
44:47 <flyback> and I am not sure I have 2 laptops with a xp licence :/
46:50 <rc-garage> get on ebay, and look at pictures of old laptops for sale? some has to have the license in a pic
47:00 <hsn> Opaque pointers is a thing
50:22 <flyback> no I have like 30 laptops
50:29 <flyback> most are buried in storage
50:36 <flyback> I found two on hand that have a xp licence
50:37 <flyback> so I am good
51:41 <flyback> it's just to validate the cards work then I will switch to the thin client xp's
52:21 <flyback> https://www.parkytowers.me.uk/thin/hp/t5710/
52:22 <EEVBot> [Title] - 403 Forbidden
52:23 <flyback> I got 20 of them
53:52 <flyback> ugh been a long time since I did an xp install
53:55 <flyback> this is going to be fun
57:17 <T3sl4> xp <3
58:02 <rc-garage> I can not really remember thinking that installing xp was fun, but... okay
58:19 <Ampera> food in progress
58:45 * electrohead and T3sl4 performs a raid of Ampera's kitchen
58:53 <Ampera> penne lisce in tomato sauce with cheese, sausage, and mushrooms
59:08 <T3sl4> mmm
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21:46 <Ampera> http://imgur.com/a/o1ibMQ0
22:51 * T3sl4 licks
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08:37 <Nothing\> Some_Person, that almost looks like the place i volunteered at
09:17 <Nothing\> we'd take old, derelict, donated computers, assess whether they're worthwhile and then refurbish the ones that were and sell them cheap for good will
10:02 <Nothing\> except i stopped working there because to clean the dust out of old computers, they'd just stick us in a small, unventilated room with no masks and use a shop vac set to "blow" to "blow out" the computers
10:21 <Nothing\> there'd just be clouds of dust hanging in the air in the whole shop when we did that
10:30 <Nothing\> actually, i'm wondering if that's how i became allergic to dust
11:38 <Nothing\> because i never used to have a dust allergy and while i haven't been formally tested, i've noticed some indications that i've developed one. Like after cleaning up under my bed where somehow, everything, including the floor, got covered in a thick layer of dust despite my bed being over it. So I was constantly kicking up clouds of dust and breathing it in and getting it all over my face.
12:12 <Nothing\> And when I came out, I felt like I had a cold or something. My eyes were water and itchy and burning, my nose was running like crazy, i was coughing and sneezing, all that good fun.
12:46 <Nothing\> i was formally tested when i was a young teen but nothing came up on that one. Though I know for a fact I'm allergic to something.
13:53 <Nothing\> I had a severe reaction to something a few years ago. No clue what it was but out of nowhere my entire body started itching soooo bad. Worse itch I've ever had in my life. And this is coming from a pain killer addict, where those will make you feel so itchy you'll literally scratch yourself bloody.
14:17 <Nothing\> i had to sit in a cold shower to deal with the itch, and noticed i was covered in hives head to foot.
15:07 <Nothing\> so i sent my mom to get me some benedryl asap while i laid in the shower and scratching myself with a pumice stone. within about 15-20 minutes of taking the benedryl the symptoms started letting up and were gone within the hour. Thank god.
15:35 <Nothing\> but it scares me that i don't know what caused it. Because that's the sort of reaction where anaphylaxis could happen the next time.
16:15 <Nothing\> actually i should call my doctor about an allergy test. Though with these stomach problems i'm pretty much confined to my house.
17:00 <Nothing\> anyways Some_Person i wish i could find cool stuff like that at good will.
17:09 <Nothing\> I still can't even find any toys to circuitbend
17:27 <Nothing\> and i've been looking for at least 2 years. Admittedly not very hard. but still.
17:54 <Nothing\> I could see circuitbending that DJ board thing into something fun
22:05 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
22:11 <Ampera> how are you doing nowhere man?
22:41 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
22:45 <Nothing\> oh you know
22:50 <Nothing\> different shit, different day
22:57 <Nothing\> you know, literally different shit
23:11 <Nothing\> but still cramping somehow
23:27 <Nothing\> i missed thanskgviing
23:56 <Nothing\> then again as i said, i wasn't looking forward to it once i realized the real reason behind it
24:02 <Ampera> you didn't miss much
24:09 <Nothing\> no, probably not
24:21 <Nothing\> just my cousins all hanging out with their families
24:36 <Nothing\> and no more than 5 minutes of pleasantries with each cousin
24:55 <Nothing\> which they could just as easily do on facebook but can't even be bothered to
25:45 <Nothing\> i wrote my one cousin's wife a nice heartfelt thank you because she's the one who took in our cats and helped us adopt them and she didn't even bother replying
26:22 <Nothing\> likewise i wrote my cousin a nice message about what a great father hewas in reply to something he posted about his kids and how he learned from a great man (his dad) etc etc
26:26 <Nothing\> again, no reply
26:45 <Nothing\> though my uncle told my mom he really appreciated it 3 months after the fact
27:03 <Nothing\> but i mean, this is why i wonder why i should even bother
27:30 <Nothing\> why be nice when people don't seem to give a shit enough to take 2 seconds out of their lives to just say a simple "thank you"
27:36 <Nothing\> or even fucking click "like" ffs
27:53 <Nothing\> or how about do me the respect of actually replying when i talk to you
28:13 <Nothing\> what would they do irl? just stand there like a moron staring blankly into space?
28:50 <Nothing\> no, Ampera i realized a sad sad fact actually just a few hours ago
29:09 <Ampera> Happiness is ultimately unobtainable in life?
29:24 <Ampera> about time you got caught up to that one
29:59 <Nothing\> i'm sure i've made it clear to you how much i miss my childhood family christmases. You know, the classic German/European family christmas get together or not even that. Even just the regular family get togethers we had at my Grandparents' house.
30:43 <Nothing\> But when they had to move, nobody else bothered taking over the role because well, my brother doesn't care, i'm too mentally ill and my place isn't big enough, and none of the other family cares
30:53 <Nothing\> as i've made abundantly clear
31:18 <Nothing\> i mean my aunt and uncle, i'll give them credit. They said my mum and i can visit any time and are very good like that.
31:44 <Nothing\> but i realized, that childhood family i used to love spending christmas with
31:50 <Nothing\> they all died years ago
31:54 <Nothing\> some of them literally
32:14 <Nothing\> the rest died when they got married, and even more so when they had kids.
32:17 * electrohead lights random things on fire
32:31 <Nothing\> electrohead, i still need to make an effigy to my ex
32:46 <Nothing\> i feel it would be cathartic
32:50 <electrohead> ?
32:52 <Nothing\> unfortunately i have nowhere to burn it now
33:10 <Nothing\> electrohead, a likeness whose only purpose is to be immolated
33:58 <Nothing\> usually something like a scarecrow. Stuffed with hay or straw
34:28 <Ampera> I like burning things
34:32 <Ampera> I was playing with matches earlier
34:35 <Ampera> the safest of hobbies
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55:29 <Nothing\> electrohead
55:34 <Nothing\> https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20211005-3491/
55:37 <EEVBot> [Title] - Electric puzzle action game ElecHead releases October 14 - AUTOMATON WEST
55:41 <Nothing\> :P
56:19 <Nothing\> i dunno what the game's about. I just saw the title in a recommended article before i clicked off of this site i was on.
56:30 <Nothing\> couldn't help but think of you
56:51 <electrohead> lol
56:53 <electrohead> it looks fun
56:55 <electrohead> :p
57:02 <Nothing\> it does look kind of interesting
57:18 <Nothing\> just from the screen shots it sorta reminds me of donkey kong jr
58:26 <Nothing\> man i remember way back in the day, like 10-15 years ago i saw an article about this puzzle game where you manipulate things in 4 spatial dimensions to solve the puzzles
58:58 <Nothing\> miegakure, that's it
59:08 <Nothing\> i was sooo excited for it. It looked so cool.
59:13 <Nothing\> still waiting for it
59:26 <Nothing\> though really i gave up waiting 5 years ago
59:57 <Nothing\> i've decided it's just not coming. But oloking at the site for the game, this demo looks like it has graphics much newer than 10 years old
00:24 <Nothing\> it's definitely not the same isometric top-down platformer i remember it as
01:25 <Nothing\> i had a brief phase where i was interested in games to do with 4 spatial dimensions. There's a convenient list of them on wikipedia.
02:58 <Nothing\> What i'd really love is a game like an FPS version of the movie Cube, minus the death traps. Where you basically just have to navigate your way through a 4 dimensional maze. Maybe with controls/gameplay mechanics not unlike descent, where you can freely navigate all 4 dimensions without gravity or any up/down orientation
04:13 <Nothing\> for example you could go into a room where all of the doors are locked and there are no switches or anything. And you have to move through the 4th dimension into the room that does have the switch
05:23 <Nothing\> I bought this 4D toys game which is just what it sounds like. A bunch of toys and shapes and stuff you can play with in 4 dimensions. But I found the controls were awkward and it was kinda bland and pointless.
05:44 <Nothing\> It's like "yeah, they're shapes. And it's 4D. That's cool and all, but... now what?"
06:50 <Nothing\> huh
07:01 <Nothing\> 4D minesweeper free to play on Steam
07:18 <Nothing\> I have fond memories of playing a 4D version of Tetris
08:46 <Nothing\> oooh a nice looking 4D maze game
10:11 <Nothing\> hrm, 5D chess
10:29 <Nothing\> i think it's hard enough in 2 dimensions
10:47 <Nothing\> well, 3, since the 4D counts time
15:34 <Nothing\> welp, i guess i'd best stop putting off this dungeon in ff2/4
15:51 <Nothing\> a whopping 13 floors
16:05 <Nothing\> oh btw, does anyone know what date the US's debt is due by?
16:31 <Nothing\> i heard it's due soon and unless they can come up with $1 trillion, they're not getting an extension this time. But I didn't get a date.
17:02 <Nothing\> seems like just yesterday it was $17 trillion and they were asking for an extension
17:46 <Nothing\> but if you look at the US debt clock, it's no wonder with how fast it's going up. You can just sit there and watch the millions tick away.
23:00 <Nothing\> waffle waffle waffle
00:16 <Nothing\> hey, anyone know a site where i can upload a bunch of images into a single album. Sorta like what you can do on Facebook. Only, I'd prefer it if you didn't need an account.
01:03 <Nothing\> i found a crapton of fossils the other day and have a bunchof pictures of them i'd like to upload into one tidy folder. Maybe i could toss em on my google drive. I'm guessing I could just make it public or somehing.
17:46 <Nothing\> le sigh
18:01 <Nothing\> aren't you guys a buncha party animals
18:30 <steve30> o/
18:42 <Nothing\> ah signs of life
18:47 <Nothing\> hey steve
19:45 <Nothing\> damn cat just decided to use my stairs like a jungle gym
20:01 <Nothing\> meanwhile there's a 20 foot fall if she slips or misses
20:31 <steve30> cats are usually quite good at falling. Don't know what the limit is though
20:39 <Nothing\> i hate it when she does that. And she has slipped a few times. Only to just barely grab the carpet with her claws and pull herself up
21:00 <Nothing\> yeah but this is a fall onto another set of stairs, so it's not like it's a flat landing
21:05 <Nothing\> otherwise i wouldn't worry so much
21:18 <Nothing\> plus she could potentially fall down the second set if she lands wrong
21:32 <Nothing\> but yeah i've heard of cats surviving insane falls
23:13 <Nothing\> there's a russian vlogger i watch once in a while who was talking about how his cat went missing for 3 days and it turned out she jumped out of his 4th storey window, and one of his neighbours found her and took her to the vet. And the vet recognized her because he happened to have taken her in just a few weeks earlier.
24:04 <Nothing\> she musta been injured somehow if the neighbour saw fit to take the cat to the vet. I don't believe the neighbour actually saw the cat fall, otherwise they could just go return the cat to the apartment they saw her fall from.
24:49 <Nothing\> i forget the exact story. It was a few months ago.
25:12 <Nothing\> Or I remember hearing stories of cats falling 9, 10 storeys and suffering only minor injuries
25:59 * T3sl4 noogies Nothing\
26:01 <Nothing\> and once you're past 50 feet, you've pretty well reached terminal velocity. So it's not like you're gonna get hurt any worse.
26:09 * Nothing\ moogles T3sl4 
26:14 <Nothing\> :P
26:22 <T3sl4> is that your final fantasy?
26:34 <Nothing\> lol actually they weren't in this one yet
26:39 <Nothing\> i dunno if they were in 5 or not
27:01 <Nothing\> i was just trying to figure out the other day which one was the first one they were in
27:29 <Nothing\> but i only playde a couple of hours of 5 so i'm not 100% on that
27:33 * T3sl4 takes Nothing\ skydiving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eN0jFOynzUY
27:56 <Nothing\> i used to always want to go skydiving until i realized i'm afraid of heights
27:58 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Either there is a REALLY BAD new variant out there, or someone entered the wrong data... https://t.co/qYKFvXDErc
28:27 <T3sl4> with all your mental issues you'd probably fall asleep midair doing it now
28:29 <T3sl4> or something idk
28:36 <Nothing\> haha yeah
29:24 <steve30> skydiving sounds fun
29:39 <Nothing\> actually i was telling my mom today one goal i have is by next summer, hopefully with covid more under control, I wanna do this thing the airport where i used to live offered where for $100 they'd take you up in a cessna and let you fly for 30 minutes
30:19 <Nothing\> steve30, it does but if you've ever fallen more than a foot, where you get that feeling of your stomach going up into your throat. I figure falling feels like that constantly.
30:32 <T3sl4> basically just sign up for piloting lessons but without all the homework and plural lesson
30:42 <Nothing\> But the more I think about it, the more I wonder if the feeling would go away once you stop accellerating
30:52 <Nothing\> T3sl4, exactly
31:20 <Nothing\> and i know for a couple hundred they'll take you on a flying tour of the area for a couple of hours
31:49 <Nothing\> which i figure is cheaper than a helicopter tour, but not as terrifying as a hot air balloon
32:01 <Nothing\> no way in hell would you get me up in a hot air balloon
33:05 <Nothing\> anything where one errant thought/move would mean my almost certain demise just scares me
34:38 <Nothing\> lol
34:41 <Nothing\> speaking of which
34:43 <Nothing\> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbbMNw6UfLo
34:44 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Civilian Pilot Lands at Military Base | ATC vs Pilot
34:55 <T3sl4> i clocked about 40 hours in a small craft with this cool free lessons for teens thing they did once in my hometown
34:55 <Nothing\> you ever watch this channel, T3sl4? you'd like it.
35:00 <Nothing\> 74 pilot
35:14 * steve30 wonders whether to have more food
35:15 <T3sl4> i didn't solo unfortunately, but it was neat
35:23 <Nothing\> er 74 gear
35:24 <Nothing\> sorry
35:41 <Nothing\> that's pretty awesome T3sl4
35:49 <Nothing\> i've always wanted to get my private liscence
35:53 <Nothing\> but it's expensive
36:08 <T3sl4> the coolest thing we did was, one day it was reasonably windy, so the instructor took control, took us down to a few knots above stall, pointed the noise into the wind, and we sat there, laid back in our seats from the high angle of attack, and just kinda chilled at zero ground speed
36:32 <Nothing\> hah that's cool
36:37 <T3sl4> the other thing is practicing stalls, powered or unpowered, fun stuff
36:49 <Nothing\> but with no ground speed conceivably that would mean no airflow over the wings
36:55 <Nothing\> which would mean no lift, would it not?
37:10 <Nothing\> come to think of it, that's the exact definition of a stall
37:11 <Nothing\> lol
37:47 <T3sl4> i said "reasonably windy"
37:58 <Nothing\> ah that's what crossed my mind after i typed it
38:04 <T3sl4> forget what the exact specs were on that plane, stall might've been 40 or 50 kt
38:04 <Nothing\> maybe there was a heavy head wind
38:10 <T3sl4> it was the same wind at altitude
38:31 <Nothing\> i have a cessna 172 somesort of model flight manual
38:40 <Nothing\> but damned if i'm digging through it to find the stall speed
39:10 <Nothing\> it's cool though, in the flight manuals for planes they have sections that read almost exactly like the datasheet for an electronic component
39:36 <Nothing\> with all of the operating limits and maximum limits and stuff like that
40:17 <Nothing\> i got a few aircraft flight/owners manuals or what have you just for fun
40:19 <T3sl4> ya
40:24 <T3sl4> they're well described, and rightfully so
40:35 <Nothing\> cessna 172something as i said, a320 and one other i can't remember
40:46 <Nothing\> a380 maybe
40:49 <Nothing\> knowing me
41:44 <Nothing\> ah, some obscure glider and a 747-400
41:47 <T3sl4> and like a computer program, commercial and military craft can have so many nasty edge cases that, let alone specifying them in a datasheet, just understanding all the dynamics in real time is impractical, and they write flight control software (hopefully not of the buggy sort like most computer programs, obviously!) to deal with it
41:58 <Nothing\> and it's a 172S
42:16 <Nothing\> and for some reason i have the DSM-V in here
42:28 <Nothing\> even though it's a folder for aeronautical engineering stuff
43:37 <Nothing\> you play the new remake for diablo 2, T3sl4?
43:46 <Nothing\> diablo 2: ressurrected
46:20 <Nothing\> it seems fun from what i've played so far, but there are a few annoyances from the original game that they didn't take care of which they easily could have. Like when buying a piece of equipment, they should have had a window to compare it with what you have equipped, which they DO have, but you have to hold a button to make it appear.
52:57 <T3sl4> shrug, i never played it
55:06 <T3sl4> oh here it is, one of the planes i was in back then https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piper_PA-28_Cherokee
55:07 <EEVBot> [Title] - Piper PA-28 Cherokee - Wikipedia
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55:32 <T3sl4> N568WA, which it looks like was sold at least once
03:17 <Nothing\> ah, nice
09:34 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/zhn6X2c.png
10:49 <Nothing\> hahaha
11:04 <Nothing\> now there's a real turing test
37:39 <Ampera> htop becomes a bit irritating when you have 80 threads...
38:15 <Ampera> https://prnt.sc/1vnmxyc
38:16 <EEVBot> [Title] - Attention Required! | Cloudflare
48:44 <Nothing\> man this book on mushrooms of the area is really neat
48:52 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
48:56 <Ampera> how are you doing friend guy
48:58 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
49:02 <T3sl4> oh fuck i thought you got into psilocybin for a few words there
49:06 <Nothing\> i'm doing really well, how about you?
49:18 <Nothing\> T3sl4, lol no but it actually does list a few of those
49:22 <Ampera> I just spent a good couple hours installing debian q.q
49:29 <Nothing\> and some psychotropic amanitas
49:32 <T3sl4> psilocybes are evenly distributed tbf
49:43 <Ampera> this is what happens when you have automated installers that make plenty of assumptions
49:43 <Nothing\> you know, the red ones with white spots you see in super mario bros
49:46 <T3sl4> debian does Ampera?
50:23 <Ampera> but, it's installed, and now I have a linux VM I can use for game hosting
50:24 <Nothing\> T3sl4, but yeah it takes a lot of serious work and training to be able to safely identify mushrooms for consumption. Even the psychotropic kind
50:32 <T3sl4> well yeah, though except for these https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_caesarea
50:34 <EEVBot> [Title] - Amanita caesarea - Wikipedia
50:43 <Ampera> now to figure out how to make decades old unpatched network software safe enough to where my entire network won't get shit on if I use it
50:49 <Nothing\> especially if you're picking amanitas. There are many species of amanita that are poisonous
51:14 <Ampera> as I am well concerned that dedicated server software for things like UT99 have to have a few known and unpatched RCE exploits in them
51:19 <Nothing\> which is why i'm glad this book discourages picking mushrooms for eating, aside from a few select mushrooms it says are hard to mix up with other ones
51:31 <Nothing\> interestingly, one of them appears to be growing in my front yard
51:33 <Ampera> I'll probably just use /very/ strict firewalling
51:38 * T3sl4 puffballs Nothing\
52:01 <Nothing\> but i don't like the taste of mushrooms, especially not enough to risk hepatotoxicity
52:14 <Nothing\> which is exceedingly painful as far as ways to die go
52:25 <Ampera> I love mushrooms
52:29 <Nothing\> T3sl4, heh yeah i'ts got a section on puffballs too
52:35 <Nothing\> and a section on slime molds
52:51 <T3sl4> can't say i'd enjoy cirrhosis
52:56 * T3sl4 sips on a cocktail
52:57 <Nothing\> Ampera, actually i like them sometimes when they're cooked right
53:05 <Ampera> it's weird, almost all my food is generally non-perishable, as in it can sit on a shelf or in the fridge for months and be fine
53:08 <Ampera> except mushrooms
53:14 <Nothing\> like fried white buttons on a steak are good as hell
53:21 <Nothing\> or deep fried white buttons
53:26 <Ampera> I only go shopping once a month, so fresh food is not something I typically have
53:36 <Nothing\> i love the way you bite into them and your mouth just floods with oil
54:40 <T3sl4> they're very porous
55:03 <Nothing\> heh
55:19 <Nothing\> there was anothore book on edible flowers i'm gonna go back and get this week
55:37 <Nothing\> well, plants not just flowers
55:49 <T3sl4> i should go to the park again and gather more walnuts. they're dropping prodigiously right now
55:53 <Nothing\> but any such guides i found online were woefully inept and/or just awkward to navigate
55:59 <Nothing\> like the one just gave a list of names
56:12 <T3sl4> but then, black walnuts are a terrible pain to shell, so i kinda don't care to. i haven't even shelled what i gathered last month
56:24 <Nothing\> so you'd have to click them one by one and go through them to try and find a picture of what you're looking for
56:56 <Nothing\> T3sl4, i just gathered a bunch of black walnuts for the squirrels
57:06 <Nothing\> i'd love to steal the tree for the lumber
57:19 <Ampera> I don't feel like sleeping tonight
57:23 <Nothing\> that tree could pay my rent for a year
57:53 <T3sl4> Ampera: sleep with me
58:03 <T3sl4> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
59:16 <Nothing\> welp so far so good on this playthrough of ff4
59:37 <Nothing\> i haven't screwed up any of the things in my playthrough that can ruin an entire playthrough
59:58 <Nothing\> thank god for the internet
00:23 <Nothing\> speaking of games, you guys ever get that remake of diablo 2?
00:36 <Nothing\> it seems like everyone i ask didn't bother
00:56 <Nothing\> even though it wasn't badly priced at $55
01:57 <Nothing\> And I'm saving up now to buy the new Metroid game on the Switch at the end of the month
02:13 <Nothing\> even though it's $90+ after taxes and exchange rate
02:26 <T3sl4> which looks pretty good, i follow a few speedrunners that are maining it rn
03:03 <Nothing\> i've actually been kinda curious to buy one of the pokemon games on Switch. I can't say there was ever a pokemon game i didn't like even though it's after my time.
03:22 <Nothing\> At least in the main series. I could do without pokemon snap and all that rubbish.
03:32 <Nothing\> T3sl4, diablo?
03:45 <T3sl4> metroid
03:53 <Nothing\> it's out already?
04:00 <Nothing\> or is this the 3DS one?
04:19 <Nothing\> i thought it wasn't out until the end of the month, but that's what i thought about diablo as well
04:43 <Nothing\> oh i'll be damned
04:47 <Nothing\> october 8t
04:48 <Nothing\> h
04:55 <T3sl4> i know at least one bought it in australia because early release but ye
04:55 <Nothing\> son of a bitch, i coulda bought it
05:23 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.imgur.com/gDMSVMC.png
05:42 <Nothing\> ah well i'm fine waiting until november to get metroid
06:04 <Nothing\> i'm still playing through final fantasy 4 ds
06:09 * Ampera burns T3sl4 in a pool of mold while farting at him with a cricket bat to the forehead
07:10 <T3sl4> :confuse:
07:27 <Ampera> now you know how I feel in life
07:38 * T3sl4 nods, hugs and kisses Ampera
07:55 <DHess_US> 101.3 fever :/
08:20 <T3sl4> vax?
08:33 <DHess_US> I am, but months ago
08:41 <T3sl4> wait, that doesn't usually fever much, right
08:51 <DHess_US> Had a 101 fever from the 2nd vacination also.
09:10 <T3sl4> oh, also good to know, i recall you mentioned OK was being shite as usual with vax
09:18 <T3sl4> so yeah, that's not great :/
09:18 <DHess_US> No, if a vaccination works, then it should generally result in a fever.
09:48 <DHess_US> Been sick for like 4 days now, and fever started today.
10:35 <T3sl4> hm, i forget how that varies between person, or with age. i didn't get a fever with my vax, and i don't think i've had much of a temp really ever, except for just a couple of cases
10:54 <T3sl4> if that's more common with older, that'd be normal then..?
11:14 <DHess_US> It isn't real clear. I haven't seen it broken down that far.
11:21 <DHess_US> MIght be just a cold.
11:35 <T3sl4> well, colds don't fever either... seasonal flu could tho?
11:47 <DHess_US> Huh? Sure they do.
11:56 <T3sl4> well, again not usually
12:08 <Nothing\> yeesh i think i overdid it on the leveling in ff4. this guide recommends lvl 34 for this section, and I'm at lvl 50
12:18 <DHess_US> I don't think it is strep or the flu, but could be a cold.
12:21 <Nothing\> at leeast i won't have to worry about it for a bit
12:50 <Nothing\> i haven't had flu since summer of 99 somehow
13:13 <Nothing\> i just know i did thai bo for shits and giggles with my friend, then i get flu
13:20 <DHess_US> There was a guy at the supermarket coughing a couple days before I got sick.
13:26 <T3sl4> :/
13:47 <Nothing\> then he introduced me to his gf's friend and we made out and dry humped for 3 hours
13:58 <Nothing\> (was 14 at the time)
14:32 <T3sl4> ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
14:45 <Nothing\> i kinda miss her cuz she was smokin hot and real easy.
15:15 <Nothing\> not much good as an actual GF of any value. but as a trophy gf for a horny teenager, she was perfect.
15:56 <Nothing\> rofl i remember the one time taking the bus to see her and i took my friend along and the whole way home on the bus i was trying to get him to smell my fingers
16:10 <T3sl4> you bunghole
16:18 <Nothing\> hahaha i thought i was cool
16:33 <Nothing\> i mean i went from never having a gf to losing my virginity in a month
16:58 <Nothing\> which for a 14 year old who only cares about how others see him is amazing
17:06 <steve30> lucky sod
17:14 <steve30> I didn't even have my first kiss till i was 22
17:14 <Nothing\> steve30, nah
17:20 * T3sl4 puts steve30 in the same room with a female
17:26 <Nothing\> only reason she slept with me was cuz she blew my best friend
17:27 <steve30> 0.o
17:35 <T3sl4> ....she's also a crazy cat lady
17:44 <Nothing\> and truth be told, i was so green i didn't even get it in the hole
17:49 <Nothing\> so i'm not even sure it counts
18:00 <Nothing\> as there was technically no penetration
18:08 <T3sl4> you mormon
18:21 <Nothing\> for what it's worth though steve30 i've been celibate now for 15 years
18:26 <steve30> I wonder when T3sl4 had his 'first time'
18:35 <T3sl4> college
18:39 <Nothing\> ever since the first and only gf i had after my wife left me
18:46 <Nothing\> and he was NOT attractive
19:09 <Nothing\> much as i'dhate to judge a woman on looks. Looks absolutely do matter in a relationship.
19:26 <Nothing\> if you're not attracted to somebody, how can you be expected to have a health relationship?
19:38 <T3sl4> there are many kinds of attraction
19:44 <T3sl4> if you're that superficial, well, yeah
19:59 <Nothing\> it's not like you can train yourself to become attracted to somebody physically, and if you have to do that and she found out i don't think she'd feel very good about it.
20:02 <Nothing\> on any level
22:21 <T3sl4> there's that 4chan copypasta of a guy saying he trained himself to like gay porn but insisting he's not gay
22:49 <T3sl4> given that's two or three very dubious things, but brains are weirder
23:47 <Nothing\> i guess that's possible
24:02 <Nothing\> but it raises an interesting dilema of whether it's actually gay or not
24:15 <Nothing\> but likewise, there's more to a relationship than physical attraction
24:57 <Nothing\> so i think if he's not full of shit, he'd have to "train" himself a lotmore thoroughly to find men attractive on many other levels.
25:50 <T3sl4> it's not hard to find men attractive
26:03 <T3sl4> even if you're "super straight", you have to be able to judge your rivals
26:24 <Nothing\> plus that sick sex doctor, i forget his name but he used all of those diaries and reporting from active pedophiles. But he found homosexuality is more of a continuum than a binary matter
27:06 <Nothing\> lol actually i "came out" to my mum yesterday
27:16 <Nothing\> as in, i told her i experimented a few times in the past
27:21 <Nothing\> but it wasn't for me
28:15 <Nothing\> hrm i just rememembered those times i experimented as a kid with my cousin, or a boy down the street when we were 5 or 6 and getting caugh by my mom
28:30 <Nothing\> i sure hope she doesn't remember that now that i said that.
28:56 <Nothing\> the cousin thing's just weird but i'm pretty sure every kid goes through a phase like that
29:09 <T3sl4> before puberty i don't know that it really matters
29:09 <Nothing\> it just depends who's around at the time
29:31 * steve30 thinks T3sl4 has a soft spot for cute guys :p
29:37 <Nothing\> T3sl4, well there was at least one instance where i wonder if she was abused
29:51 <Nothing\> i think that matters
29:58 <T3sl4> yes, the problem comes if it's not just kids being kids
29:59 <Nothing\> but maybe i'm just thinking about it too much
30:13 <Nothing\> and i'm hardly an expert in such matters
30:21 * T3sl4 wonders if steve30 wonders if he thinks he's cute
31:02 * steve30 thinks T3sl4 is cute
31:11 <T3sl4> :3
31:31 <steve30> And we /know/ Halcyon fancies you :p
31:41 <T3sl4> yeah, but he'll hump anything that moves
31:42 * Ampera pets steve30 
31:55 <Ampera> he's been known to hump stuff that doesn't too
31:59 <Nothing\> T3sl4, even your own penis?
32:32 <T3sl4> depends, does it move?
32:38 <T3sl4> oh, there it goes
32:46 <Nothing\> weell i dunno about you guys
32:52 <Nothing\> but i can consciously move my penis
32:59 <Nothing\> up and down
33:07 <T3sl4> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Reruwp_Fs3Y "oh there they go"
33:07 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: "They Call Them Fingers, But I Never See Them Fing" - Otto from The Simpsons
33:13 <Nothing\> lol
33:27 <Nothing\> oh, there they go
34:01 <Nothing\> man it's too bad nobody ever made a fan fiction film of final fantasy 4 or 6 or 7
34:26 <Nothing\> there was a really well done fan fiction film of mega man 1 that was a combination of live action and CG
34:35 <Nothing\> made maybe 5-10 years ago
35:51 <Nothing\> ffs the coil on my ecig isn't making good contact with the battery
36:02 <Nothing\> i hate fighting with this every time i change the coil
36:21 <Nothing\> also my cat's being a dildo
36:49 <Nothing\> he won't stop trilling and katterwalling and running around crazily
37:42 <Nothing\> alright guess it's time to start trying to relax before bed
37:49 <Nothing\> have a good one guys
37:56 <Nothing\> take care, and be well. <3
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56:00 <Halcyon> I fancy everyone Steve :P
56:03 <Halcyon> I don't discriminate
56:06 <Ampera> YAY
56:09 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
56:13 <Halcyon> Hey buddy :)
56:18 <Ampera> how are you doing
56:19 <steve30> hehe
56:24 <Halcyon> I just installed my new Ubiquti U6-LR access points
56:33 <Halcyon> My laptop now connects to Wifi at 2.16 Gbps
56:37 <steve30> Halcyon, have you seen the latest Odysteve? It features a cute guy :p
56:51 <Ampera> damn son
56:56 <Ampera> I need to buy one
56:56 <steve30> That sounds pretty quick for wireless
57:06 <Halcyon> I have not, but love the name ODYSTEVE :P
57:07 * steve30 is using 802.11g still
57:27 <steve30> https://odysee.com/@steve30:3/thinkpad_t420_unboxing:8
57:27 <EEVBot> [Title] - Unboxing: Lenovo Thinkpad T420
57:31 <Halcyon> Not that I need those sorts of speeds, more of a nice to have
57:33 * T3sl4 licks Halcyon
57:38 <Ampera> 180 bucks
57:42 <Ampera> ok maybe I don't need to buy one
57:44 <Halcyon> Hey T3sticuli
57:55 <Ampera> I forget, what's the difference between the LR and the lite?
58:14 <Halcyon> Off top of my head, I think x2 MIMO vs x4
58:17 <Halcyon> Slightly faster CPU
58:21 <Ampera> right
58:28 <Halcyon> And a higher gain antenna I think
58:41 <Ampera> I'll get the LR at some point, though the extra speed will be mildly useless on a gigabit link
58:41 <Halcyon> The physical size of the lite is also smaller I think, or maybe that's the Nano?
58:52 <Ampera> presumably it can then also maintain gigabit at a farther distance
59:01 <Halcyon> Haha love it Steve
59:03 <T3sl4> Halcyon: actually, i'm the ancient greek warrior, Testicles
59:05 <Halcyon> And you're right, he's cute :P
59:12 <Ampera> in other news I am doing firewall things
59:31 <Halcyon> The audio is quite nice Steve
00:06 <Ampera> since I'm going to be running game servers that are 20 years old and haven't been patched in a depressing amount of time, I'm making sure that my game VM can't be too easily used to fuck my network
00:25 <Halcyon> You're quite good in front of the camera Steve
00:30 <steve30> The microphone is nice, but the power supply i was using has bad connections and no shielding so it introduces noise
00:44 <Halcyon> Yeh and there was a bit of a crackly bit
01:10 <T3sl4> yeah some 50 or 100Hz impulsive noise in there
01:31 <Ampera> https://pastebin.com/3DUSnd8j
01:32 <Halcyon> Hah I love your floor shot. Complete with random casters and random things
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01:38 <Ampera> PF's configs are really elegant
01:40 <Halcyon> Ampera, what kind of firewally things are you doing?
01:48 <steve30> So, I was browsing an eBay store called TheSexShopOnline, which sells thing like handcuffs, gags, hoods, etc... and this...
01:54 <steve30> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/273956866955?hash=item3fc91a0b8b:g:brQAAOSwcHRdSJXW
01:55 <EEVBot> [Title] - 12" Mr Bean and Bear Twin Pack Soft Toy Brand New | eBay
02:08 <Ampera> I am trying to make running 20 year old unpatched networking software less of a suicide mission
02:28 <Halcyon> You need to do a BDSM version of your teardowns
02:34 <Halcyon> Combine sexy with tech
02:40 <Halcyon> Sorry, mailbag
02:57 <Halcyon> You could call the segment "Ballocks" for obvious reasons :P
03:08 <T3sl4> or a black beret would be a good compliment to the black sweatshirt/pants combo, go full arthouse style
03:16 <Halcyon> Agreed T3sl4
03:47 <steve30> hmm, sex toy unboxing
03:55 <Halcyon> Doesn't have to be a sex toy
04:13 <T3sl4> anything's a sextoy if you're brave enough
04:19 <Halcyon> Just a normal mailbag, except you're dressed in skimpy outfits that leave little to the imagination
04:25 <Halcyon> Other than that, a totally normal mailbag :P
04:41 <T3sl4> an almost-nude-save-for-jockstrap unboxing?
04:49 <Halcyon> Yeh that kind of thing
04:51 * steve30 should get some new speedos
04:55 <Halcyon> "Sexy mailbag"
05:13 <T3sl4> i mean there's that couple of shows/countries that do sexy news
05:21 <T3sl4> or, *cough*, sexy...kids shows?
05:22 <Halcyon> I think I used eSATA once steve30
05:41 <Halcyon> It was one of those things that fizzled out owing to USB speeds
05:59 <Ampera> now that I've played with pf here, I have no doubts I can set up my own router from scratch
06:10 * Halcyon gives Ampera a scratch
06:18 <T3sl4> me-ow
06:25 <Ampera> also, now that I'm using pf anyways, I can replace all my FreeBSD VMs with jails
06:44 <Ampera> which should really make things more efficient, since I no longer will have to allocate ZFS volume and can use datasets instead
06:49 <Ampera> and you know, not eating entire CPU cores :P
07:03 <Ampera> but I can still have bhyve around for linux things
09:00 <Halcyon> Gah, the only annoying things about using 160 MHz wide 5 GHz channels is there are only 2 non-overlapping ones
09:13 <Halcyon> And 1 of them is subject to DFS
10:02 <steve30> Halcyon, i uploaded some pictures to my fetlife.com profile the other day :p
10:13 <Ampera> fetlife, insurance for gimps
10:31 <Halcyon> Link me Steve?
12:30 <steve30> https://fetlife.com/users/8818371/pictures/117425419
16:00 <Halcyon> Dammit, you need an account
16:26 <steve30> :p
16:52 <Halcyon> You could just upload them to your server :P
17:15 <steve30> I /could/, but i'm going to bed as i'm sleepy
17:20 <T3sl4> Halcyon, these are the only flesh pictures you need https://i.imgur.com/Bal15NG.jpg
17:33 <Halcyon> Hahahahaa
17:35 <Halcyon> Love it!
19:05 * T3sl4 doots at Halcyon
19:29 <Halcyon> Hah
20:37 <T3sl4> i wonder if my fedex finally comes tomorrow
20:47 <T3sl4> it's finally showing in the local depot, so probably
24:26 <Halcyon> What did you order?
24:43 <T3sl4> just stuff a client is shipping
25:00 <T3sl4> another one UPS'd something that arrived yesterday
39:11 <Ampera> Jails are working really well
39:18 <Ysjoelfir> mornings
39:25 <Ampera> hi Ysjoelfir
41:26 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, I'll let you know when, but I'm going to have to take the znc offline for a small little bit, as I'm migrating the VM it's on into a FreeBSD jail
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44:27 <Ampera> I'm also eventually (probably not today) going to be slightly changing how it and the management panel is connected to
51:29 * Halcyon licks Ampera
51:35 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
51:36 <Ampera> how are you
51:42 <Halcyon> I'm OK, how are you?
51:59 <Ampera> I am loving Jails
52:11 <Ysjoelfir> Ampera, thats fine :) I will probably notice when I can't log in anymore xD
52:24 <Ampera> it's freeing me from the tyranny of VMs
52:42 <Ysjoelfir> But if you want you can send me a whatsapp or telegram thingy or the other one Halcyon uses to notify me :)
52:59 <Ampera> it'll be down for like 30 minutes
52:59 <Ampera> so
53:00 <Halcyon> I will say this, we spell Jail as "Jail"... not the weird way the UK guys do
53:09 <Halcyon> That's one thing you and I can agree on
53:12 <Ampera> huh?
53:24 <Halcyon> The UK spell is "Gaol"
53:31 <Halcyon> *it
53:45 <Ampera> Wikipedia states that's a dated/antiquated use
53:50 <Halcyon> Yes
53:51 <Halcyon> Yes it is
53:54 <Ampera> which explains why I've never seen a person from the UK say it
54:10 <Halcyon> Some old people here still spell it the old way
54:40 <Ampera> Well that's a strong case for legal geriatricide
54:44 <Halcyon> :P
56:31 <Ampera> What's really nice about jails is I no longer have to allocate whole cores
56:35 <Ampera> everything can share threads
58:34 <Ysjoelfir> lol ok, then I probably wont even notice anyway xD
59:18 <Ampera> performance will be better too
59:39 <Ampera> everything will also be ZFS now, and I can unify control of datasets, so backups can simply done from one place
59:50 <Ampera> no overhead of running multiple instances of ZFS too
02:03 <Halcyon> I love ZFS
02:19 <Ampera> I love FreeBSD
02:25 <Halcyon> I love you
02:25 <Ampera> it's the best OS ever
02:31 <Ampera> I love you too
02:34 <Ampera> begrudgingly
02:40 <Ampera> until you release my family
07:52 <Ysjoelfir> Hm.... speaking of data stuff.... You might remember that I got "a few" Harddisks from mr. employer. I am slowly preparing to build my NAS now. recently I learned that my raid controller isnt a raid controller actually, as the workload is done by the CPU, yay. Thanks, mr.... erm... who was is... can't remember, someone here in the channel. :P So.... I wonder, is there any benefit to get a "raid controller" over just a SATA HBA
07:53 <Ysjoelfir> basically only provides JBOD/SINGLE configuration, as the workload is done by CPU anyways?
08:32 <Ampera> Depends on your hardware. If you have a particularly weak CPU and little RAM, hardware RAID can be a benefit
08:39 <Ampera> however, there are a lot of serious drawbacks to hardware RAID
08:48 <Ampera> if your RAID controller dies, you basically kiss your data goodbye
09:03 <Ampera> unless you can find an identical controller, formats are plentiful and proprietary
09:04 <Ysjoelfir> It will be a octacore ryzen, Zen3, with 16gig or more RAM
09:22 <Ampera> lol
09:27 <Ampera> yeah that's fine for ZFS
09:33 <Ampera> in which case, any controller will do
09:51 <Ampera> actually, that's not true, you need a controller which can operate as an HBA
09:59 <Ampera> I have a RAID controller in my compute server that can't do that
10:41 <Ysjoelfir> so that one can realy only make the drives as whatever it provides, and the system can't eg. make a stripset from two drives?
11:50 <Ampera> wha?
12:11 <Ampera> I think I just had a stroke
13:03 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, ZFS likes direct access to the disks, which is where a HBA comes in
13:16 <Halcyon> If you have a hardware RAID controller in between, shit can go wrong
13:22 <Ampera> Most decent RAID controllers have an HBA mode, which works fine
13:32 <Halcyon> Not all decent RAID controllers do
13:37 <Ysjoelfir> noted :)
13:41 <Ampera> it's just rare freak bullshit like what's in my server that doesn't
13:46 <Halcyon> There are plenty of LSI ones which can't be flashed into IT mode
13:47 <Ampera> If it doesn't, it's not a decent RAID controller
13:55 <Ampera> if you need to flash it, it doesn't count
14:05 <Ampera> no exceptions
14:07 <Halcyon> More often than not you do
14:21 <Ampera> Luckily my 16 lane SAS controller has an HBA mode
14:26 <Ampera> which is in my storage server
14:28 <Halcyon> Which is why manufacturers provide firmware for both IT and IR mode
14:40 <Halcyon> Sorry, *some* manufacturers, for some models
14:41 <Ampera> well, I suppose that's fine
14:51 <Ampera> that's not available for the controller in my server though
15:05 <Ampera> there's some hack that you can do which requires a kernel patch, and is of course Linux only
15:12 <Ampera> but I just stuck an LSI HBA in and it's fine
15:18 <Halcyon> No. In my experience RAID cards that can act as just a HBA or in IT mode is actually less common than not
16:02 <Halcyon> I guess they figure, if you are buying a full blown RAID controller, why would you then disable most of its functionality?
16:10 <Halcyon> So many don't bother supporting it
16:36 <Ampera> honestly I expect hardware RAID to be pretty much dead at this point
16:41 <Ampera> with ZFS being a thing I don't know why you'd want it
16:44 <Halcyon> These days, yeh, pretty much
16:49 <Halcyon> Windows admins
16:57 <Ampera> lol
17:07 <Halcyon> But then again, you'll probably be using a *nix based SAN if you're doing things properly.
17:10 <Ampera> so you can have a dying controller for a dying platform
17:17 <Halcyon> Yup
17:34 <Halcyon> Prettttty much
17:53 <Ampera> in other news, I have less than 3 hours to reinstall like 5-6 VMs
18:04 <Ampera> including a full BAMP stack, ZNC, and a bunch of other random stuff
18:22 <Ampera> reinstall is loose, it's more just copying crap over and making sure all the packages that need to be there are there
20:40 <Ampera> er, BEMP stack, and it's also got a reverse proxy on it
21:25 <Ampera> Halcyon, the networking for these jails is kinda cool. A new feature called vnet basically virtualizes a second networking stack instead of sharing the host's, and it allows you to passthrough any interface you like
21:57 <Ampera> in order to get communications with the host, there's a really neat interface type called epair, which creates two interfaces when created
22:06 <Ampera> and sort of acts like a patch cable
22:26 <Ampera> My understanding of networking is really getting better. It's still not great, but it's getting better
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39:32 <Halcyon> So like a v-swtich?
39:35 <Halcyon> *switch
40:05 <Ampera> No, though I am using a bridge interface too, which combines those all together
40:07 <Ampera> and that is a switch
40:28 <Ampera> this is more of an interface where what comes in one end goes out the other
40:30 <Ampera> like a patch cable
40:35 <Halcyon> So like a switch
40:41 <Ampera> no, because nothing is being switched
40:49 <Ampera> you can't have more than 2 peers
40:51 <Halcyon> That's why it's "virtual"
40:53 <Ampera> or less than 2 peers
41:04 <Ampera> because these are containers
41:08 <Halcyon> Right
41:10 <Ampera> the networking stack is being virtualized
41:47 <Ampera> but in order to communicate with the host, the epair is used to tunnel the connection through, somewhat akin to a tap interface
41:55 <Halcyon> I see
42:03 <Ampera> but instead of a tap being grabbed by the hypervisor, you give one half of the epair to the jail, and the host keeps the other
42:14 <Ampera> to switch them all together with a physical interface, I'm using a bridge interface
42:29 <Halcyon> I'd like to pair your tunnel
44:21 <Ampera> I am so glad I don't need to use block devices anymore
44:39 <Ampera> it's an absolute pain to get all the files off these VMs
55:23 <Ampera> wooo! amperaa.net is no longer running using VMs
55:25 <EEVBot> I don't think so.
55:40 <Ysjoelfir> 👌🏼
55:53 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, znc will go down in about 10-20 minutes or so-ish
56:11 <Ysjoelfir> thats perfect, I'll be in a meeting there anyway
56:40 <Ysjoelfir> to be precise, I leave now to get there in time. later :)
06:46 <Ampera> going down, see y'all in jail
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16:24 <Halcyon> Evening push-fit
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20:01 <Ampera> Tada!
23:32 <K> take it back
04:53 <Ysjoelfir> see, I returned!
05:10 <Ampera> \o/
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26:21 <hsn> today i know sizeof is not a macro .. its a unary operator :)
33:07 <K> yay!
34:49 <Ysjoelfir> I don't even know what an unary operator is :D
34:54 * Ysjoelfir operates K unary
34:59 <Ysjoelfir> lets see what happenes
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