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00:00:29 <electrohead> hey Ysjoelfir
00:00:37 <electrohead> I was in the shower before, back now
00:02:13 * Ampera moistens electrohead
00:02:35 * electrohead drips
00:04:16 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: so the package is still in Deutschland
00:05:10 <Ysjoelfir> probably, yes. I assume its on some pile of stuff, waiting to be shipped out to Yourland-land
00:05:41 <electrohead> lol
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02:20:54 <rust_collector> merry breakfast time everyone
02:22:51 <steve30> hi
02:23:18 <Kuschelpony> Hello
02:24:18 <rust_collector> HELLO!
02:27:27 <Kuschelpony> -20db please
02:56:08 <T3sl4> steve30 irl https://i.imgur.com/XhHbAOk.jpg
02:56:45 * steve30 suggests claws for dealing with people
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05:44:26 <Halcyon> Morning all
05:44:55 <rust_collector> morning, just you
05:45:07 <Halcyon> :D
05:45:23 <rust_collector> oooooonlyyyy YOOOOOOOOOOO
05:45:33 <rust_collector> lalalalala
05:45:43 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
05:45:47 <Ampera> how are you doing fat guy
05:45:54 <rust_collector> not bad
05:46:14 <Ampera> not you, you're Scandinavian perfection
05:46:21 <rust_collector> true
05:47:30 <Halcyon> Haha
05:47:36 <Halcyon> I think the same can apply to both of us Ampera
05:47:37 <Halcyon> :P
05:47:48 <rust_collector> eh?
05:48:00 <Ampera> you're not Scandinavian
05:48:01 <Halcyon> "Scandinavian perfection"
05:48:07 <Halcyon> My background is
05:48:14 <Halcyon> It's like saying you're not German
05:48:22 <Ampera> no, you're Finnish
05:48:27 <Ampera> Finland is not part of Scandinavia
05:48:53 <Halcyon> No it's not, but in the broader sense Finns are still considered "Scandinavian"
05:48:59 <Halcyon> Same as Iceland
05:49:07 <Halcyon> Sweden etc...
05:49:10 <rust_collector> or are you one of those bastard swedes?
05:49:14 <Halcyon> Hah no
05:49:26 <Ampera> They're considered nordic countries, but Scandinavia is Norway, Sweden, and Denmark
05:49:33 <Halcyon> Sure, Nordic as well
05:49:45 <rust_collector> ok, then no. sorry, no scandi for you
05:49:49 <Halcyon> Just as "Asia" includes India, Indonesia etc..
05:50:03 <Ampera> The inclusion of nordic nations into the geographic term of Scandinavia is a misnomer that is only recognized because people make that mistake constantly
05:50:19 <Halcyon> I don't think it's just a mistake, it's actually quite common
05:50:31 <Ampera> It's a mistake, people just don't know they're making it
05:50:45 <Halcyon> Although yes, technically incorrect as it's not within Scandinavia itself
05:51:33 <rust_collector> ok, that is that. good night
05:52:16 <Halcyon> More technically it's the "Fennoscandia" region which encompasses Norway, Sweden, Finland and Denmark
05:52:36 <Ampera> gonna go for a run, be back in a bit
05:52:44 <Halcyon> But it's most commonly referred to as the "Scandinavian region" which makes it correct
05:52:47 <Halcyon> Have fun :P
05:53:33 <Halcyon> I should probably go to work
06:01:08 <rust_collector> so many things you should do...
06:01:18 <rust_collector> just sit down and relax
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09:41:34 <Nothing\> heyo!
09:41:43 <Nothing\> how's everyone doing?
09:42:44 <steve30000> hi
09:43:29 <Nothing\> hey steve30000 how you doing/
09:43:34 <Nothing\> is this name change permanent?
09:43:53 <steve30000> pretty crap but managing
09:44:28 <steve30000> Sometimes my IRC clients add extra 0s to the nick to if steve30 is already in use. Othertimes I have them increment it, so steve31 etc
09:45:08 <Nothing\> ah i thought it was an intentional thing
09:45:17 <Nothing\> like you've upgraded yourself in some way or something lol
09:45:33 <steve30000> I'm on a thinkpad atm. steve30 is over there on the desk.
09:45:36 <Nothing\> but why bother with a number at all?
09:45:45 <Nothing\> it's not that big a server
09:45:55 <Nothing\> is steve really taken?
09:45:57 Nick: steve30000 is now known as steve
09:46:13 <Nothing\> or did you just want a number osmething to make it your own
09:46:15 <steve> steve is available but registered
09:46:20 <Nothing\> like i do with the backslash
09:46:30 <Nothing\> ah
09:46:34 Nick: steve is now known as steve3000
09:47:10 <steve3000> well, people have known me as steve30 on forums and IRC for many years now
09:47:32 <Nothing\> yup, it's the monicker i've always known you as
09:47:59 <Nothing\> i just assumed there was some esoteric meaning to the 30. Like with my nick name suffixes
09:49:31 <steve3000> The 30 actually originated from the early 2000s when I was in the scouts. I was in the 30th Rotherham troop. The first IRC server I used was ScoutLink IRC, hence the number 30 seemed appropriate.
09:49:33 <Nothing\> lol or on the drug harm reduction chat i used to go on, we'd append something to the end of our name to indicate when we were on drugs. In my case i usually did it just to explain why i was acting odd or erratic
09:49:49 <Nothing\> i'd have something like Nothing^250mg_somedrug as my name
09:50:13 <Nothing\> or in my case i didn't bother with the carat and would just use the backslash, but most people used a carat to separate it from their name
09:50:53 <steve3000> Not heard of that specific example before, but it sounds typical of IRC users
09:51:26 <Nothing\> steve3000, lol that's alright. The password I use on some sites is an extension of the original password i was assigned for the computers in, i think grade 4-6 somewhere around there
09:51:30 <Nothing\> so right around 95
09:52:14 <Nothing\> they assigned me a password for my account and ever since then i've used the same password on some sites, but usually with some other randomness attached
09:52:25 <steve3000> hehe, my "usual" password is the same one I was given for school computers in 2002. Though these days I often have to add numbers and symbols
09:52:55 <Nothing\> then just because I get confused, i write them all down da vinci style (mirrored) in latin transliterated cyrillic
09:53:34 <Nothing\> usually for notes i write myself physically i'll write them in latin transliterated cyrillic instea of english
09:54:10 * steve3000 is useless at foreign languages
09:54:44 <Nothing\> i am too tbh. i just know some bit and bobs that can make me sound like i really now what i'm talking if i want
09:54:57 <Nothing\> like being able to read cyrillic
09:55:36 <Nothing\> didn't take much time or effort at all. But people find it very impressive when you're able to read a russian word
09:55:53 <Nothing\> the trick is to find one that's close or identical to an english word so translation isn't an issue
09:56:42 <Nothing\> in other words, i can read cyrillic, but not russian or any languages which use it
09:56:57 <Nothing\> oh yeah, i found a crapton of fossils the other day
09:57:50 <Nothing\> there were some limestone blocks that were put down at the entrance to all sorts of parts. I guess to keep people from diving through said park.
09:58:42 <Nothing\> but i've been noticing they're always chock full of fossilized shells and stuff like that
09:59:18 <Nothing\> i wanna make an online gallery somewhere that won't scale down the images
09:59:29 <Nothing\> like what, i think it was imgur used to have
10:00:32 <Nothing\> i found something interesting out in the course of my research though
10:00:40 * steve3000 suggests making a website
10:01:44 <Nothing\> apparently ALL limestone is made up of ancient pulverized and fossilized shells 100%
10:02:09 <Nothing\> steve3000, i really would like to but i'd... hmm you know that's not a bad idea actually
10:02:23 <Nothing\> my mom has literally thousands upon thousands of pictures she's taken but will probably never see
10:02:56 <Nothing\> maybe i could either rent a host or turn my old computer into one, though i wouldn't trust its uptime
10:03:55 <Nothing\> it'd be a great experience in web development, of which i have ze0o aside from very basic hand coding of HTML and fixing up/hacking the odd bit of html here and there
10:04:08 <Nothing\> i can also imagine a use for a database
10:04:23 <Nothing\> just for the sake of learning it, if nothing else
10:05:03 <Nothing\> databases like SQL or something
10:05:27 <steve3000> i had a play with sql databases once
10:05:40 <Nothing\> i wonder what such a host would cost
10:06:02 <Nothing\> my last experience with a host was back in 1999 so we couldn't even use X
10:06:13 <Nothing\> it was BASH or gfto
10:06:25 <Nothing\> or one of the alternative shells
10:06:37 <steve3000> I've just moved my site to Mythic Beasts who do a few GB for £30/year. Cheaper options are available.
10:06:39 <Nothing\> but i'm assuming you can use X remotely nowadays
10:06:54 <Nothing\> a few gb of storage?
10:07:00 <steve3000> yeah
10:07:18 <Nothing\> that should work for a few thousand pics
10:07:38 <Nothing\> ftp access? or is that something that's required or even a thing anymore?
10:07:50 <steve3000> I'm doubtful many web hosting servers will run X. In fact many don't let you have shell access. Just FTP/web control panel.
10:08:09 <Nothing\> oh really
10:08:27 <steve3000> I use FTP although most will support the encrypted versions which I've never used.
10:08:39 <Nothing\> i assumed there would have been some development by now that would allow them to run X or some GUI from a shell
10:09:20 <steve3000> Most GUIs are web based control panels (like CPanel or similar)
10:09:37 <Nothing\> i guess that's one of many reasons why it's still worth learning command line linux even with all of the amenities a visual enviroment offers
10:10:03 <Nothing\> ah i see
10:10:10 <Nothing\> i seems i have a lot to learn in either case
10:10:12 <steve3000> yeah, I regularly use command line on my linux boxes, but i'm no good at learning commands any more.
10:10:17 <Nothing\> but it's something to keep in mind
10:10:52 <Nothing\> i can honestly say, i ran raspbian for almost 2 years and very rarely ever used the command line
10:11:12 <Nothing\> for 2 years as my primary computer
10:14:39 * steve3000 ponders more food
10:18:34 <Nothing\> go 3 it dude
10:18:38 <Nothing\> yolo, amirite?
10:18:42 <Nothing\> ammonite
10:18:57 <Nothing\> sorry, fossil humour
10:23:03 <Nothing\> oh fun, more tomach cramps
10:23:28 <Nothing\> and yet i'sm still passing fully solid waste.
10:24:13 <Nothing\> i wouldn't wish bowel pains on my worst enemy. Much less chronic bowel issues.
10:24:51 <Nothing\> anywho, i'm gonna go play final fantasy iv some more
10:24:58 <Nothing\> compliments of Ampera
10:25:05 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3
10:25:28 <Nothing\> you've bought be no fewever than 35 hours of joy.
10:25:40 <Nothing\> *fewer
10:25:45 <Nothing\> lol fewever
10:25:54 <Nothing\> ifewever
10:26:29 <Nothing\> HUSH UP ADD HUSH UP HUSH UP
10:26:53 <Nothing\> you're gonna get us both banned from the congregation
10:29:12 <Nothing\> weird, i just made a typo in dvorak that came out almost exactly as the word "jewish"
10:29:26 <Nothing\> it was just one letter off, the J being an L instead"
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10:30:00 <Nothing\> i must be the divine chones one
10:30:55 <Nothing\> and the divine chines one says; go forth and make shitty music
10:31:13 <Nothing\> it's a long stretch, but i thought the name sounded like jonas brothers
10:31:27 <Nothing\> anyway
10:31:31 * Nothing\ minimizes
10:33:33 * jaymax supersizes
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10:35:12 * steve3000 has a headache
10:35:44 * jaymax sails over some Tylenol
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10:56:27 <electrohead> o/
11:17:55 <steve3000> \o
11:21:30 <Nothing\> ah man it's such a beautiful night out
11:21:37 <Nothing\> easily north of 20c
11:22:06 <Nothing\> wayll, maybe not. Even with large windows it's hard to tell indoors
11:22:28 <Nothing\> lol did i just type a southern accent?
11:25:27 * Nothing\ starts up final fantasy iv (remake of course)
11:33:51 <Nothing\> apparently you watch simon whistler videos while playing final fantasy iv and your brain sarts seein simon as a boss enemey
11:34:11 <Nothing\> i wonder what it all means, if anything
11:35:03 <Nothing\> wouldn't that be trippy
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12:09:57 <steve3000> I might have a walk up to the cash machine later
13:05:36 <steve3000> This thinkpad battery has lasted 5 hours so far :)
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14:42:36 <steve3000> Well, it managed 6 hours. That's quite good.
14:44:53 <steve3000> Also, I managed a little walk up to the village.
14:45:01 <steve3000> There was a man sat down in front of the VDSL cabinet
15:07:55 <T3sl4> ohhhh... well that's not great
15:08:00 <T3sl4> my monitor is susceptible to EFT
15:08:52 <T3sl4> i just turned off power to the amplifier i use for desktop speakers, the monitor blinked like it did a power cycle or something
15:10:06 <steve3000> Needs more cathode ray tubes :D
15:10:28 * T3sl4 points some beta rays at steve3000
15:10:55 <steve3000> mmm
15:11:09 <T3sl4> oh but did i mention, i got a 2k monitor last month? so, that's why this is just now being noticed
15:11:31 <steve3000> ooh, so an improvement on the old LCD?
15:12:13 <T3sl4> yes
15:12:52 <steve3000> Modern LCDs are very good, but Trinitrons do have a warm cosyness to them :p
15:13:06 <T3sl4> agreed
15:13:24 * steve3000 's 21" trinitron needs repairing again
15:13:43 <T3sl4> it's, uhh, about triple the viewing area of the previous LCD, but ironically i tend to use it as a bit less than double. go figure, i was constrained before
15:13:49 <T3sl4> yeah, that'll happen :/
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18:57:03 <Halcyon> Hmmm this doesn't seem ideal
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19:21:26 <Ysjoelfir> weeeeeeeeeeee!
19:21:26 * Ysjoelfir is done stitching the net back together
19:21:26 * Ysjoelfir puts away his sewing utensils
19:21:46 <Halcyon> Thank you Ysjoelfir :D
19:21:52 <Halcyon> I love the colour too
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19:22:47 <Ysjoelfir> I hoped so. I immagined that bright yellow with pukeis green/brown would suit everyones taste :)
19:22:54 <Ysjoelfir> *puke-ish
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19:24:06 <Halcyon> As long as it has the tassles on the end
19:25:33 <Ysjoelfir> always
19:25:39 <Ysjoelfir> and its nice and soft
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19:30:02 <T3sl4> BUH!
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19:38:40 * Halcyon squeeks
19:38:47 <Halcyon> *squeaks
19:39:33 <T3sl4> hows the shining?
19:40:35 * Halcyon wallops grem
19:40:40 <Halcyon> Thanks for letting us know :)
19:40:54 <grem> bloody OVH
19:41:00 * grem sighs
19:41:10 <Ysjoelfir> OverVoltageHeater?
19:41:11 <grem> sorry guys
19:41:19 <grem> that's the one
19:43:17 <Halcyon> Meh, shit happens
19:43:29 * T3sl4 wollops grem
19:43:43 <Halcyon> That's two sore cheeks now :P
19:44:06 <T3sl4> you been cheekin him out?
19:44:23 <Halcyon> No, I walloped him earlier
19:48:46 <Halcyon> Hey T3sl4, have you got much experience with installing outdoor/weatherproof electrical boxes?
19:49:04 <T3sl4> i haven't the foggiest what the standards are over there
19:49:15 <Halcyon> I didn't ask about standards ;-)
19:49:33 <Halcyon> I ordered one of these: https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/114729924407
19:49:35 <EEVBot> [Title] - VEVOR Carbon Steel Electrical Enclosure Box 400 x 300 x 200 mm Wall Mount IP65 | eBay
19:49:48 <T3sl4> oh nice
19:49:57 <Halcyon> It'll be mounted on a wall near a mast for antennas and other such equipment.
19:50:41 <Halcyon> It won't have mains voltage running to it as I can do everything over 48v POE, but my question is, I'll need to feed the cables in from the top through some conduit, which means water can potentially pool there.
19:51:04 <Halcyon> What would be the best way of sealing that? Are there big weatherproof glands for such tasks or just some silicone on both sides?
19:51:28 <T3sl4> Sealtite or equivalent is nice
19:52:17 <Ysjoelfir> no way to feed it from the bottom?
19:52:31 <T3sl4> presumably you'll use something heavily jacketed enough that cable glands work, or put it in conduit something like that
19:52:49 <Ysjoelfir> in my experience water WILL find a way in if you go from the top
19:53:23 <T3sl4> ruining your nice welded painted box by cutting holes in the top seems rather counterproductive
19:53:42 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir, there issssss, but I would have to route the conduit down then back up again as it's coming in from the roof cavity.
19:53:55 <T3sl4> yeah, best is cables entering the bottom, so there's some drip loop, and also maybe i suppose something like conduit could have a drip hole or something
19:54:13 <Halcyon> Ideally I'd love it all to come in from the back, but it's mounted on outside brick and it's all just too hard
19:54:37 <T3sl4> ofc you'd want it to come in the back
19:54:46 <Halcyon> Some of it's RF and fibre, so I need to be careful not to make the bend too tight
19:54:50 <Halcyon> :P
19:56:10 <Halcyon> Yeh maybe I'll just do that (come in from the bottom). It won't be as neat but at least it will keep the rain out
19:57:55 <Ysjoelfir> it will be better in the long term
20:05:10 <Halcyon> I do have the option also for mounting it under an eave
20:05:54 <T3sl4> i'd have thought you'd want it hanging from adam
20:05:59 * T3sl4 rimshots a second time
20:06:14 <Ysjoelfir> lol
20:06:24 <Halcyon> I'll give you a rimming T3sl4
20:07:09 <T3sl4> ooer
20:07:25 <Ysjoelfir> is that a scream of enjoyment, or fear?
20:08:54 <Halcyon> I think it's a little of both
20:08:58 <Halcyon> Fear of enjoying it
20:09:11 <Ysjoelfir> XD
20:09:25 <T3sl4> fear of the dark
20:11:49 <Halcyon> Because there might be spiders?
20:15:51 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/5QAcpsR.png
20:17:52 <Halcyon> Bahahaha
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23:18:47 * electrohead yawns
23:22:16 * Ampera hugs electrohead
23:22:23 <Ampera> how are you doing, sparky?
23:26:42 <+electrohead> hey fucker, lol
23:26:46 * electrohead hugs Ampera's face
23:26:51 <+electrohead> I'm alright, waking up slowly, etc
23:26:53 <+electrohead> you?
23:30:15 <Ampera> aewgf
23:30:16 <Ampera> awoeigj;o
23:30:18 <Ampera> iauowehgoiahn
23:30:24 <Ampera> and other suck conflagurations
23:30:30 <Ampera> *suck -> such
23:32:14 <+electrohead> lol
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