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39:51 * electrohead yawns and waves
10:13 Join: Nothing\ (~Shmendrick@cpe9050ca20a183-cm9050ca20a180.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) to #eevblog
16:36 <Nothing\> ugh so many pills
16:43 <Nothing\> feels so gross going down my throat
27:04 <Nothing\> lol i've got 11 $1 pre-rolls from the dispensary this month
27:21 <Nothing\> these'll be nice for a rainy day when i can't afford better stuff
27:43 <Nothing\> although it's not even enough to keep my held over for 2 days
28:27 <Nothing\> still at least it'll curb the withdrawal effects like loss of apetite and upset stomach, and insomnia
29:18 <Nothing\> hrm i wanna go back to playing ff2/4 but i'm getting sick of trying to farm for this sword
30:05 <Nothing\> can only get it from a rare encounter in a difficult part of the map with enemies that almost kill you, meanwhile only has a 5% drop rate even though i've killed in excess of 50 of these things by now
30:18 <Nothing\> damn RNG driven events
30:25 <Nothing\> the bane of a speedrunner
38:56 <Ampera> yay, the tea I ordered finally came in
39:00 <Ampera> well some of it
39:10 <Ampera> Twinings Irish Breakfast Tea
39:46 Quit: clarkos ([email protected]) EOF from client
41:34 <Nothing\> ugh i hate watching GDQ speedruns
41:40 <Nothing\> the first 5-10 minutes is just nothing
41:53 <Nothing\> it's just them sitting on the couch talking about nothing anyone watching cares about
42:24 <Nothing\> either cut that shit out or include a link to where the speedrun actually starts, cuz i guarantee nobody clicked the video to watch these two neckbeards talk
42:50 <Nothing\> Ampera, nice. But for some reason my mind associates it with irish springs
43:00 <Nothing\> which i wouldn't imagine would make a very good tea
43:48 <Nothing\> Ampera, i did a good thing the other day
43:58 <Nothing\> i donated $25 to the heart and stroke foundation
44:11 <Nothing\> been wanting to donate since my grandfather died but just never got my ass in gear till now
44:15 <Ampera> http://imgur.com/a/ZjIHxbA
44:17 <Nothing\> then i convinced my mom to donate $100
44:20 <Ampera> I did a good thing
44:33 <Nothing\> but the cool thing is
44:37 <Ampera> I donated 120 dollars into the filling my belly with smoked meats foundation
44:51 <Nothing\> when you donate to the heart and stroke foundation, they enter you in a lottery
45:16 <Nothing\> the one i'm in, there's a drawing every day in march for prizes anywhere from like $100 to tens of thousands
45:35 <Nothing\> cars, jet skis, shit like that, or equivalent cash prizes
45:51 <Nothing\> and i just happened to donate 5 days before the cut off for these tickets
46:01 <Nothing\> so that's a nice win
46:49 <Nothing\> kinda sucks though cuz i got 4 tickets for $20 plus $5 so i can claim it on my taxes, but right after that i noticed i coulda got 12 tickets for $50, which i woulda done if i knew that was an option
47:05 <Nothing\> so now i'm stuck wondering if i should get another pack of 12 tickets.
47:11 <jaymax> I won a Norco Malahat hybrid bicycle with a Heart & Stroke spinoff some years ago, $0 entry fee - rather an "exercise with us today" entry fee.
47:21 <jaymax> Heartland tour
47:27 <Nothing\> oh nice
47:44 <Nothing\> yeah i never did anything with the h&s foundation, but i've been wanting to donate since my grandfather died
47:57 <Nothing\> he and my deceased grandmother both had strokes
48:05 <Nothing\> as did my great aunt
48:18 <Nothing\> hell, i've even had a stroke myself before i was 30
48:32 <Nothing\> same type as winston churchillhad, i'm proud to say
48:37 <Nothing\> lacunar infarction
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49:01 <Nothing\> the curious/scary thing about my stroke though is i had absolutely no idea it even happened
49:13 <Nothing\> there were no symptoms or indications that anything was amiss at all
49:25 <Nothing\> it was just found out about incidentally during an MRI for something unrelated
49:51 <jaymax> The offshoot here is led by two brothers, also surgeons (one cardiology, the other oncology). The Giacomontonio brothers (Nick and Carmen) each have their reasons for physical activity.
50:42 <Nothing\> right on
50:48 <jaymax> I was involved for six of the past ten years, and my physique has declined a lot in that time. LOL
50:52 <Nothing\> i wanna donate to the canadian cancer society too
51:02 <Nothing\> cuz my aunt had leukemia for like 25 years
51:11 <Nothing\> lol she outlived the doctor that gave her less than a year
51:12 <jaymax> Blood cander sucks
51:20 <Nothing\> yeah she had a real hard time with it
51:25 <Nothing\> but she totally gave it a run for its money
51:35 <Nothing\> just like her to do that, too
51:49 <Nothing\> she was a real firey woman
52:09 <Nothing\> down to earth, no bullshit, hardnosed stubborn german house frau/farmer
52:41 <Nothing\> more than once she had to writeher MP for help paying for her meds
52:50 <Nothing\> because they were practically bankrupting her
53:05 <Nothing\> let's just say, nobody got any money when she died. There was nothing left.
53:31 <Nothing\> i'm surprised there was anything left of my grandparents' money. The shithole they were in was charging them $4,000 a month :o
54:18 <Nothing\> and it wasn't even a proper retirement home. They wouldn't help them with medical problems and in fact, if they DID have a medical emergency, it was policy that the staff NOT touch them or intervene in any way shape or form
54:25 <jaymax> On-topic chat question, if I were to put two (same model - each has their own BMS) Li-ion battery packs in parallel, is that where a bridge rectifier gets used? Or would something similar like a blocking diodes for each parallel suffice? Or crazt third thing?
54:29 <Nothing\> i guess for liability reasons
55:04 <Nothing\> i don't see why you'd need either
55:17 <Nothing\> usually a rectifier's used to convert AC into DC
55:29 <Nothing\> be it a single diode half wave rectifier, or a 4 diode full wave
55:58 <Nothing\> but just off the top of my head, i see no reason why you'd need a diode connecting two batteries in parallel
56:20 <Nothing\> lemme draw up a quick schematic of what i'm picturing in my head that you're talking about
58:46 <jaymax> Cool, thanks. :^) - I purchased two boxes of laptop battery packs off one of those clearance websites (250+ cells per box if shucked) - and I considered - if I only care to trickle-charge/discharge an array of them, I don't even need to shuck most of them.
00:32 <Nothing\> here jaymax this is what i'm picturing you're describing
00:33 <Nothing\> https://tinyurl.com/ye8o9mu7
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01:00 <Nothing\> and btw, that program's awesome for visualizing circuits and understanding them on a more intuitive level
01:34 <Nothing\> i'd strongly suggest checking out the examples in the top menus. You could spend hours going through them all, playing with them, figuring them out, etc
01:43 <Ampera> lalalalalalalalalala
01:45 * Ampera sneezes
02:01 <Nothing\> Ampera, if you were a russian who was laughing by way of text, how would you do it?
02:03 <Nothing\> xaxaxa?
02:27 <Nothing\> i've found like 5 different ways russians laugh in that manner via text
03:13 <Ampera> дебил блять
03:14 <jaymax> Wow neat Nothing\ - ideally I'd be putting more than two in parallel, maybe 6p really - to act as a "trickle wall".
03:50 <jaymax> Seems like that simulation would favour the first parallel, putting strain on it?
03:56 <Nothing\> Ampera, dyebeel blyat?
04:05 <Ampera> no
04:08 <Ampera> fucking moron
04:21 <Nothing\> jaymax, nah they should both have an equal amount of current taken from them
04:43 <Nothing\> jaymax, lemme put an ammeter between the two voltage sources and you'll see
05:33 <Nothing\> jaymax, oh i see what you mean
05:48 <Nothing\> you mean the rightmost voltage source has all of the current coming out of it
05:56 <Nothing\> where the leftmost has none
06:16 <jaymax> Yeah
06:40 <Nothing\> well the thing with putting sources in parallel is it'll give you twice as much energy, right
07:09 <Nothing\> so once the first source is run down, it'll basically act like a low value resistor
07:19 <Nothing\> and the second source will take over supplying the current
07:28 <Nothing\> so you get twice the lifespan of the batteries
07:41 <Nothing\> where putting them in series gives you the same lifespan, but twice the voltage
07:52 <Nothing\> as opposed to same voltage and twice the lifespan
08:22 <Nothing\> as for the implications of the worn out voltage source acting as a resistor, i guess that depends on the load
08:56 <Nothing\> but conceivably you'd think it would create a path of less resistance than the load circuit and most of the current would just go through the dead battery
09:01 <Nothing\> conceivably
09:21 <Nothing\> i'm just speculating here cuz i haven't really given any thought to batteries in parallel until just now
09:40 <Nothing\> but if you'd like, i can see if i can get you some resources on it
10:05 <jaymax> I'd want to prioritize the strongest parallel - and distribute was the load increases.
10:12 <jaymax> *as the load...
10:32 <Nothing\> i have a couple of sites i use as go-tos for info on EE. So i'm hoping if i peruse them it'll have some info on either batteries in parallel or just parallel circuits in general
10:51 <Nothing\> you know, general rules of thumb, like everything in parallel has the same voltage
11:11 <Nothing\> like, if you have several loads in parallel, they'll all be at the same voltage
11:30 <Nothing\> and likewise with series, only they're all at the same current rather than the same voltage
11:37 <Nothing\> which are pretty nifty rules of thumb to remember
12:11 <jaymax> I'll play with the site a bit too, since it does give me warnings if I'm doing something dumb.
12:20 <Nothing\> but the thing is, if I were just using a multimeter and breadboard and a few resistors and batteries, I'd probably never understand why that is
13:00 <Nothing\> but using circuitmod, this program i linked you to. I was able to see immediately why it was just looking at a circuit i threw together real quick comparing a couple of resistors in series to a couple in parellel
13:22 <Nothing\> jaymax, just a word about this program
13:33 <Nothing\> it has a few uhh what's the word
13:42 <Nothing\> not bugs, but little kinks in it i guess
13:47 <jaymax> Quirks? BTW, when there is a notation between series and parallel, is it left-to-right from the cell-to-circuit, or circuit-to-cell?
13:52 <Nothing\> yeah, quirks
14:22 <Nothing\> like it doesn't consider the wires to have resistance, so it gives you an error if you wire up voltage sources without any resistance between them
14:41 <Nothing\> hence why i had to use the 0.1ohm resistors as wires between the voltage sources in my example
15:00 <jaymax> Yeah that's what it gave me - and I'd heed that warnig here.
15:01 <Nothing\> and it does the same thing with caps too, it doesn't like caps connected together without resistance between them
15:12 <jaymax> Ah.
15:27 <Nothing\> jaymax, if you get that warning, just replace a wire with a 0.1 ohm resistor like i did
15:59 <Nothing\> it just needs some sort of resistance so it can do ohms law calculations withotu having to divide by zero
16:35 <jaymax> Sure. :^)
16:37 <Nothing\> cuz if you think about it, if you're using ohm's law on something that has a resistance of 0 ohms, you'll have to divide the voltage by 0 to get the current
16:53 <Nothing\> since current's voltage/resistance
17:07 <Nothing\> interestingly, that exact situation exists in real life
17:18 <Nothing\> since superconductors have a resistance of 0
17:31 <jaymax> WRT the series/parallel question, would you call your example 1s2p, or 2p1s?
17:56 <Nothing\> but ohm's law isn't an actual physical law so it's not set in stone per say, but derived from other physical laws
19:15 <Nothing\> jaymax, i'm not sure i follow. at first i thought you were talking about switches and how they can have multiple poles and throws and hence be called, for example, a 1p2t switch but i was confusing myself
19:23 <Nothing\> i'm afraid i'll need you to elaborate
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19:47 <Nothing\> i've gathered p and s and parallel and series but i'm not sure beyond that what you're describing
20:03 <Nothing\> *p and s ARE parallel and series
20:51 <Nothing\> hey Dude
20:53 <Nothing\> how's it going
21:15 <jaymax> Batteries in series and parallel - I'm wondering how those are noted. For a different example, a car battery is six cells, but would that battery be 1p6s or 6s1p?
22:00 <Nothing\> hrm i'm not sure if there's a notation for it or not. If there is i'm not familiar with it. And I'm probably just as green as you when it comes to EE, so don't take my word for it.
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22:38 <jaymax> I suppose it need not be an authoritative answer, we can just agree on one for clarity sake in this chat.
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22:46 <Nothing\> anywho i'm going back to playing final fantasy. It's calling me.
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22:56 <Nothing\> jaymax, i'd suggest checking out quora
23:00 <Nothing\> or ask steve30000
23:03 <Nothing\> he'd know if anyone
23:07 <Nothing\> he's an EE superstar
23:36 <jaymax> Yeah, I'm actually going to start some physical work shortly anyway. :^)
23:44 <Nothing\> ah good stuff
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23:57 <jaymax> Thanks again for the URL.
23:57 <Nothing\> well good luck with that. Hope it's not too hard on you, but satisfying none the less.
24:12 <Nothing\> yeah no problem. I'm really glad you found it useful.
24:27 <Nothing\> honestly it's been the most useful tool i've had when it comes to learning EE
24:50 <Nothing\> plus it does digital circuits
24:53 <Nothing\> so that's a plus
25:10 <Nothing\> anywho off i go
25:15 <Nothing\> ta ta, and take care. <3
27:50 <Dude> hi
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40:11 <Nothing\> hey arch
40:24 <Nothing\> make the RNG for this game work more in my favour
40:47 <Nothing\> i'm already statistically overdue for this damn drop i'm trying to get
41:15 <arch> pay money for lootboxes and call it a day
41:18 * Nothing\ puffs his e-canpen
41:42 <Nothing\> arch: no loot boxes for final fantasy 4 but at this point i almost would pay for it
42:01 <Nothing\> at least i would if all of my disposable income weren't already spoken for by the heart stroke foundation
42:14 <Nothing\> that is, i plan on donating as much as possible over the next month or so
43:17 <Nothing\> i told god as a present to him for christmas i'd donate $20 to the heart and stroke foundation and $20 to the canadian cancer foundation by year's end. But it looks like I'll be going over $20. At least for the heart and stroke.
44:12 <Nothing\> i just wish i got receipts for all my church donations for taxes cuz i gave them over $100. But oh well.
45:07 <Nothing\> i dunno why people are so stingy about donating. I'm on social services and i can still manage to throw $20 to a person in need or charity every so often in lieu of buying some weed or some other luxury i don't need.
45:41 <Nothing\> usually i just throw them $20 and then forget about it. So it's like I never even parted with the money in the first place.
46:37 <Nothing\> i used to use the excuse that i'm 1. on social services and 2. impoverished so not only do i have no obligation to donate, but i'm entitled to some of the resources that have been donated by other people.
47:22 <Nothing\> but now i just don't care. i give money if i have it and i'm doing well enough i don't need to use any such services.
48:19 <Nothing\> i feel bad donating more money to heart and stroke than to cancer just because the heart and stroke foundation has a lottery
48:45 <Nothing\> though my mum said my great aunt used to win stuff from the canadian cancer foundation. So maybe they do stuff like that too.
49:32 <Nothing\> foodbank's probably gonna want some money for christmas, too
51:00 <arch> you gotta pump those numbers up. those are rookie numbers
51:29 <Nothing\> aye. I should be donating at least 70% of my income to charity
51:33 <arch> heck i donate $100 to T3sl4 alone, every year, smack on christmas or new years
51:40 <Nothing\> lol
51:43 <Nothing\> actually it's funny
51:49 <Nothing\> i donated to wikipedia last month
51:56 <Nothing\> since then, they've asked me for money 3 more times
52:06 <Nothing\> well, me as in people in general
52:09 <arch> yea, they have a tendency to spam your mailbox if you donate even once
52:09 <Nothing\> not me specifically
52:25 <Nothing\> well luckily my mailbox is nothing but spam anyways
52:39 <Nothing\> but mine was just a $2.65 donation, plus the $1 service fee
52:55 <Nothing\> i figured it'd be real shitty to donate $2 and change and then make them pay half of it for the service fee
52:58 <arch> my yearly donation quota is $1k, but i missed out last year due to being out of work for a bit, so the goal is $2k this year
53:19 <Nothing\> arch, yeah but keep in mind i'm on social services and only get like $15k a year
53:27 <Nothing\> but i do what i can when i can
53:37 <arch> kudos for that Nothing\
53:52 <arch> honestly, i would volunteer, if i lived out in the countryside or a small town
53:54 <Nothing\> it's like the old way of life, i help you when you need it and i have it, and likewise you help me when i need it and you have it
53:57 <Nothing\> ideally, anyways
54:02 <arch> but it's not feasible in the city. too many scum here
54:19 <Nothing\> arch: me too, but between my health problems and criminal record, i don't think anyone would hire me
54:23 <arch> so i do the next best thing, which is donate mone
54:34 <Nothing\> i used to volunteer refurbishing old computers, but quit because of health concerns
55:11 <Nothing\> because to clean the computers out they'd just have us take a shop vac, set it on blow, and blow the contents of the case/board/everything else out into an unventilated room while wearing no masks or PPE
55:31 <arch> gotta do that shit outside, with an air compressor
55:31 <Nothing\> at least to take care of the dust and stuff inside
55:39 <Nothing\> yeah no shit lol
55:46 <Nothing\> god forbid anyone in there had allergies
55:55 <Nothing\> and who knows how many bug parts we inhaled or ate
56:18 <Nothing\> but the basic gist behind the place was to refurbish computers they sold at a discount for the less fortunate
56:18 <arch> that's the least of your concerns. should worry about how much tar you've inhaled, from all the smoker households
56:47 <Nothing\> arch: i worry more about the tar i inhale(d) from my current and old smoking habit
56:54 <Nothing\> current cannabis, old tobacco
56:55 <arch> touche
57:14 <Nothing\> i vape now instead smoking tobacco. actually i switched to vaping for cannabis too but that's still hard on the lungs.
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58:27 <arch> i have only ever tried smoking ONCE in my whole life. that was when i was 5 or 6. my dad left a lit cigarette in the ashtray before he went to take a piss, and i tried smoking it, and choked real bad on the smoke and got all red eyed. that was that...
58:29 <Nothing\> it's pretty ingenious how they have it for cannabis. They just sell a unit that's basically a battery, and then you buy a cartridge with your concentrate in it complete with coil and mouthpiece and it just snaps into your battery unit with a magnetic ring you screw on
58:50 <Nothing\> very clean, very quick and easy compared to ecigs
59:09 <Nothing\> arch: heh yeah when i was 5 my dad actually let me try smoking
59:23 <Nothing\> mind you this was like '89-'90
59:45 <Nothing\> i just hauled on that sucker like it was a joint and coughed a lung out
59:51 <Nothing\> then wondered why anyone would do that
00:36 <Nothing\> lol then when i was 12 in cuba i found out the stores sold me marlboros (dunno how they get marlboros in cuba but not canada) but i just remember getting so sick on the beach from them
00:45 <Nothing\> i think everybody gets sick their first time smoking
01:20 <Nothing\> but then they were only $2 a pack, so i brought back as many cartons as customs would let me
01:49 <Nothing\> then smoked until i was what? musta been 32 or so when i started vaping. 36 now.
02:15 <arch> sniffing flux fumes while soldering is good enough for me, tyvm. don't need to waste $13+ on pack of cigs and get lung cancer
02:43 <arch> get fucked finance and body wise
02:47 <Nothing\> arch: lol yeah that's about what it is for a pack of good brands like players or du mauriers
03:24 <Nothing\> but since my city borders one of the largest native reservse in the country, people are constantly buying smokes on the black market there and smuggling them back
03:36 <arch> my electronics budget per month, i tend to limit around $100 in general; sometimes, i splurge on parts and it's $200/mo for EE parts. that's about it.
04:17 <Nothing\> arch: heh mine's more like $20, unless i have to buy a piece of equipment. But aliexpress usually supplies all the chips i need for around $1 or $2 for packs of 5-10
04:51 <Nothing\> sometimes i'll get ones that are ridiculously expensive. Like the 74HC181 4 bit ALU chips. Those were like $25 for a pack of 10
05:08 <Nothing\> or i paid similar prices for digital comparators or 4 bit adders
05:25 <Nothing\> i guess cuz they're popular chips for breadboard computer projects
05:39 <Nothing\> but then, so are bus tranceivers, but those are cheap as dirt
05:52 <Nothing\> what is it? 74HC245
06:49 <Nothing\> yeah, these
06:50 <Nothing\> https://www.ti.com/lit/ds/symlink/sn54hc245-sp.pdf?ts=1633718236209&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.google.com%252F
07:04 <Nothing\> they make for great tri-state bus interfaces
26:37 Quit: Guest69 ([email protected]) Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…
27:38 <Nothing\> alright i give up trying to farm this stupid sword in ff4
28:25 <Nothing\> think i'll play diablo 2
44:18 Nick: steve30000 is now known as steve30
44:20 <steve30> o/
45:29 * steve30 needs to finish his 'unboxing' video
54:20 <Nothing\> hey steve
54:30 <Nothing\> hey, you guys know what those balls are called that are like
54:52 <Nothing\> it's like a glass ball and you move your hands under it in a way to make it appear that it's hovering in mid-air
55:19 <Nothing\> or maybe it's plastic i dunno
55:32 <steve30> I think i've probably seen one but i'm not sure
56:02 <Nothing\> fushigi ball
56:04 <Nothing\> that's it
56:15 <Nothing\> i was thinking my cats might enjoy watching me use one
57:35 <Nothing\> lol one thing my cats love is when i put magnets in a pill bottle, then put it down on the table and use a neodymium magnet on the bottom of the table to make the magnets on top seemingly move on their own
58:47 <Nothing\> yikes
59:03 <Nothing\> just came less than an inch from whipping myself in the eye with a male usb plug
59:09 <steve30> hehe
59:13 * steve30 meows
59:27 <Nothing\> lol i get enough of that from my one cat
59:43 <Nothing\> he meows so much he's almost as vocal as a human sometimes
00:30 <steve30> Meow :)
03:33 <steve30> On the subject of meows, I'm surprised that Halcyon hasn't locked the forum cat topic yet :p
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18:44 <Nothing\> hhe steve30
18:47 <Nothing\> heya Kuschelpony
18:50 <Nothing\> how's it going?
18:56 <Kuschelpony> Hello Nothing
18:58 <Nothing\> gutenaben
19:05 <Nothing\> wie geht es ihnen?
19:07 <Nothing\> is that right?
19:09 <Kuschelpony> just back from visitng a friend, was a 250km daytrip
19:26 <Kuschelpony> "Guten Abend" wold be right
19:34 <Nothing\> i just randomly remembered that. IT was one of the first german phrases i learned
19:45 <Kuschelpony> "wie geht es ihnen" is correct but a bit formal, "wie geht es dir" is the more personal version
19:53 <Nothing\> wie geht es ihnen. though I'm just i'm spelling it wrang.
20:04 <Nothing\> ah i did not know that
20:06 <Kuschelpony> "you" can be translated into both, depending on the kind of formal or personal greeting
21:05 <Nothing\> i think for most language tutorials where the language has a formal and informal version of "you" they tend to err on the side of cautioun and use the formal version
25:50 <Nothing\> ah
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26:48 <Kuschelpony> thats likely
26:58 <Kuschelpony> but i can say you can be relaxed with me, no worries
36:49 <rust_collector> Nothing\ if they pretend they do not understand, just bring up hitler, and they will suddenly forgive any grammar errors
37:55 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/19052503-43f7-487f-9f81-0282e6c1b037.jpg
37:57 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/a36a3d34-0f93-4630-a4b6-a8591aafbcaa.jpg
38:07 <electrohead> that's what I had to clean out of the front panel of the server, heh
38:12 <electrohead> the joys of having cats, yay
38:25 <steve30> meow :p
38:29 <electrohead> that said, server is all upgraded \o/
38:39 * electrohead throws paws at steve30
38:41 <electrohead> :p
39:40 * steve30 curls up on electrohead's nice clean server :)
42:09 <electrohead> :P
42:20 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector
42:24 <electrohead> mate, this is great. under a slight load, the fans are barely making a noise
42:33 * electrohead pokes Nothing\
42:40 * electrohead waves at rust_collector
42:57 <Nothing\> heya electrohead
43:00 <Nothing\> how you doing?
43:00 * rust_collector waves his something to electrohead 
43:24 <Nothing\> i'm frustrated, i can't get this chip to work
43:45 <Nothing\> it's that one that's got 3 NPN and 2 PNP transistors, plus a substrate pin
43:51 <rust_collector> stop trying it in the wrong way?
44:11 <Nothing\> i couldn't figure out where the substrate pin gets connected to and everything says the most negative point of the circuit
44:18 <Nothing\> so for a dc circuit that'd be ground
44:23 <electrohead> hrmm
44:26 <Nothing\> but it still won't work
44:28 <electrohead> I'm doing, happy as fuck right now
44:42 <Nothing\> maybe i'll have to give it another try with a different chip
44:42 <electrohead> https://0xznc01.pw:2600/public/srv02_cpuinfo.txt
44:45 <electrohead> that's why, lol
44:52 <Nothing\> but yeah rust_collector you're probably right
44:58 <electrohead> what's the IC/chip in question?
45:01 <Nothing\> it's almost always something i've done
45:08 <Nothing\> lemme get it
45:32 <Nothing\> https://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy4802L/fall17/DataSheets/ca3096.pdf
45:36 <Nothing\> that one
45:54 <Nothing\> i just started off making a simple switch circuit with one of the NPNs to see if it works
46:04 <Nothing\> but it switched nothing
46:23 <Nothing\> unless i just had crappy connections on my breadboard, which is always a possibility
46:29 <Nothing\> these things are looser than thai hookers
46:41 <steve30> Why do intel processors identify themselves as "GenuineIntel"? Would a fake Intel processor identify itself as "FakeIntel"?
46:47 <Nothing\> at least the elenco ones are
47:00 <Nothing\> steve30, lol
47:23 <Nothing\> misleadingintel
47:26 <electrohead> lol
47:59 <Nothing\> i was reading about the 80186 the other day
48:09 <Nothing\> i didn't know fujitsu used to make CPUs
48:23 <Nothing\> and there was one other company to make a total of 4 that made it
48:28 <Nothing\> what was it...
49:04 <Nothing\> siemens
49:10 <Nothing\> believe it or not
49:30 <rust_collector> siemens has made a lot of stuff
49:34 <Nothing\> i mean i guess the name itself implies they're a pretty serious producer of electronics
49:43 <Nothing\> but i just associate them with vacuum cleaners
49:43 <electrohead> yeah they've been around for a while
52:24 <Nothing\> wait
52:26 <Nothing\> https://www.phys.ufl.edu/courses/phy4802L/fall17/DataSheets/ca3096.pdf
52:30 <Nothing\> did i link to this?
52:36 <Nothing\> oh yeah there it is, my bad
52:38 <electrohead> you just did lol
52:44 <Nothing\> i couldn't remember if i actually posted the link or not
52:58 <electrohead> smoke another one.
53:00 <electrohead> :p
53:19 <Nothing\> lol i would but i'd probably fall asleep if i did
53:52 <rust_collector> Nothing\ Siemens & Halske was founded by Werner von Siemens and Johann Georg Halske on 1 October 1847. that is a bit of time ago
54:09 <Nothing\> actually this vape pen i got's a lot better for my lungs than i expected
54:26 <Nothing\> i just realized i haven't needed my inhaler since i started using it
54:35 <Nothing\> at least not on a daily basis like i used to
54:38 <rust_collector> you just have to expect it to be horrible, and that is what will happen
54:49 <Nothing\> now i need it maybe once every couple of weeks
56:20 <Nothing\> rust_collector, heh one philosophy i used to hold is to never get my hopes up. My reasoning was that way if things don't work out, i'm not as disappointed, and there are no surprises. But if things do work then the whole thing's one big happy surprise for you
56:38 <rust_collector> yep
57:02 <rust_collector> https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Siemens you should read that, it is an interesting story
57:02 <EEVBot> [Title] - Siemens - Wikiwand
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22:29 <Kuschelpony> i do have a retro PC with Siemens SAB8086 processor in my basement
33:39 <Nothing\> hrm seems like it's good walking weather
33:46 <Nothing\> i think i might do that
34:09 <Nothing\> take advantage of the first day of not being in agonizing pain in nearly 3 weeks
35:58 <Nothing\> 20, feels like 22
36:03 <Nothing\> sounds like perfect weather to me
40:42 <electrohead> My weather station says it's 19 C out
42:02 <rust_collector> 9 here
44:24 <Nothing\> weird
44:35 <Nothing\> on the radar, the weather's moving directly south to north
44:47 <Nothing\> normally it moves southwest to northeast
45:08 <Nothing\> or at least in a general east to west direction
45:25 <Nothing\> all these hurricanes have been screwing that up
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31:10 * electrohead spews rain onto Nothing\
41:33 * T3sl4 dyes electrohead purple
45:45 * electrohead dyes T3sl4 pink
46:03 * T3sl4 dies
46:13 * electrohead films
46:14 <T3sl4> oh look, boxcars
46:44 <electrohead> T3sl4: dude, you see the mass amount of cat hair and dust within the front panel of my file server? lol..
47:09 <Dude> hey
47:11 * rust_collector sees how many rubber bands he can put around T3sl4, before he pops
47:16 Nick: Dude is now known as TheDude
47:20 <T3sl4> free felt
47:20 <TheDude> just in case
47:27 * T3sl4 hugs TheDude
47:37 <electrohead> heh
47:39 * electrohead films
47:51 <TheDude> how are you lads doing?
48:05 <T3sl4> having an afternoon beverage
49:11 <T3sl4> do you really have to announce filming? at this point everyone assumes you have a bodycam
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49:41 <TheDude> whom are you filming?
49:59 * T3sl4 hands TheDude the plastic wrap
50:06 <TheDude> on an unrelated note
50:23 <TheDude> shit is really bleak in the electronics component supply chain, eh?
50:36 <TheDude> I've looked at some shit that I've had in the basket on Mouser for some time now
50:46 <T3sl4> semis are kinda fucked, yeah
50:51 <TheDude> most of it is backordered with 1yr+ delivery times
51:04 <TheDude> not just semiconductors
51:07 <T3sl4> yeah, it's like 2010, or 2018, all over again
51:08 <TheDude> passives, too
58:22 <Nothing\> hey
58:29 <Nothing\> anyone know where i can get some uhh
58:32 * T3sl4 mugs Nothing\
58:33 <Nothing\> car chips
58:45 <Nothing\> you know, for cars
59:33 <electrohead> T3sl4: no body cam, here
59:52 <electrohead> I just break out the old VHS camera
59:52 <Nothing\> why don't you have a seat
59:53 <electrohead> :p
00:07 <electrohead> Nothing\: No, you're a towel!
00:16 * T3sl4 trowels electrohead
00:25 * electrohead spanks T3sl4
00:29 <electrohead> and you like it, too
00:32 <Nothing\> no, YOU'RE a towels
01:01 <TheDude> ugh
01:03 <electrohead> how can I be more than one towel?
01:08 * electrohead waves at TheDude
01:17 <TheDude> I've been thinking of ordering a large desk
01:41 <TheDude> but I'm struggling to find decent legs that would fit me
02:19 <T3sl4> mmm, legs
02:23 <rust_collector> heh
02:27 <TheDude> with the desk at work, I've had a friend make me threaded extensions for the dumb little feet at the bottom
02:30 <T3sl4> film that
02:42 <TheDude> so that the desk is a couple of cm taller
03:04 <TheDude> and fucking everything I can find is in that retarded standard size
03:21 <TheDude> is it that fucking much to ask to have a couple of different sizes?
03:30 <rust_collector> how about making small threaded extension pieces?
03:39 <TheDude> those look like shit
03:53 <TheDude> I don't care how the desk looks at work
04:00 <TheDude> I do care how it would look in my living room
04:20 <rust_collector> lower the floor under your desk a couple cm
04:37 <rust_collector> more or less, just because you can not do that at work
05:12 * T3sl4 lowers rust_collector into a vault
27:36 <steve30> I took my Super VHS-C camera out today.
28:32 * electrohead steals it for a few minutes, just to film
31:07 * electrohead pokes Halcyon
35:04 <Halcyon> :D
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35:51 * T3sl4 waves at Halcyon
35:57 <Halcyon> Heya T3sl4
46:13 <steve30> Halcyon, i was saying earlier, that i am surprised you haven't locked the forum cat thread yet :p
46:57 <Halcyon> Hah
47:08 <Halcyon> Refer to this post I just made: https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/what-happened-to-redskull/msg3738019/#msg3738019
47:10 <EEVBot> [Title] - What happened to Redskull? - Page 2
47:24 <Halcyon> Just because I don't agree with it, doesn't mean I'm going to lock/delete it
48:03 <T3sl4> there was another post dave explained, OT is acceptable as an exception when it provides a sink for people posting common junk, like that
48:41 <TheDude> I've seen the other extreme of this
48:47 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
48:51 <Ampera> I haven't seen you in days
48:51 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
48:55 * T3sl4 bugs Ampera
48:58 <TheDude> I used to attend a forum where they would moderate things HEAVILY
49:01 <Ampera> I enjoyed every single one
49:02 <Halcyon> Yeh I've been super busy/away for the last few weeks
49:34 <Halcyon> TheDude: Yeh same. I used to use Whirlpool for years. Got into many arguements with a few of the moderators but always lost because I was a lowly user.
49:39 <TheDude> and not many new people stuck around after they got harassed by the old twats straight off the bat
50:07 <Halcyon> One time they tried to accuse me of being someone else and creating a ghost account, even though they had absolutely no grounds to do so apart from "your posts seem similar".
50:11 <TheDude> the forum presence was already dwindling
50:34 <TheDude> and then the leaders got into some sort of argument with each other
50:45 <Halcyon> They basically tried to get me to admit I was some other bloke in some other part of the country so they could "justify" it to themselves to ban me. I ended up just leaving at that point. I had enough of their shit.
50:46 <TheDude> and the forum basically hard forked onto a new domain
50:54 <T3sl4> gotta love ego and narcissists
50:55 <TheDude> some of the people use both
51:04 <TheDude> most picked just one side
51:13 <TheDude> and both forums are now ghost towns
51:36 <T3sl4> speaking of, how many are left on afternet?
51:43 <Halcyon> Oh I even got Simon (the owner of Whirlpool) involved. He just backed the moderator. I told him to check the source IP addresses, email accounts, brower cookie information etc... nup, he refused
51:44 <Ampera> Halcyon, I've been having some fun with servers. I've eliminated Apache and Squid from my web stack
51:48 <Halcyon> Accused me of lying etc...
51:56 <Ampera> and now have a dedicated reverse proxy VM (with the potential to do load balancing)
52:07 <Halcyon> Oh neat Ampera :)
52:08 <Ampera> running nginx now, works great
52:09 <TheDude> hold on
52:22 <TheDude> Simon, as in the Simon of eevblog?
52:31 <Halcyon> No, different Simon
52:35 <TheDude> oh
52:38 <Ampera> funnily enough, there are more than one person named Simon in the world
52:44 <steve30> I think EEVSimon is English
52:47 <Halcyon> EEVblog Simon is from the UK
52:50 <Ampera> er, *there is more than one person
52:54 <TheDude> because the eevblog simon is a bit of a dunce, but not malevolent
52:56 <T3sl4> whirlpool is a brand of appliance, not a forum?
53:00 <Halcyon> Whirlpool is Simon Wright, lives in Queensland I think?
53:09 * Ampera throws a dishwasher at T3sl4 
53:11 <Halcyon> T3sl4, yes correct, but it's also whirlpool.net.au
53:23 <steve30> Halcyon, I went for fish and chips earlier
53:28 <Halcyon> Was a rather large telco-based forum, which has just turned into an "everything" foru,m
53:34 <Halcyon> Yummy Steve
53:58 <TheDude> I seem to have found a potentially suitable set of desk feet
54:28 <TheDude> https://www.hobistudio.si/spletna-trgovina/pohistvene-noge/c/komplet-nog-za-mizo-q--nastavljiv
54:30 <EEVBot> [Title] - Komplet nog za mizo Q - nastavljiv | Hobistudio
54:31 <TheDude> click on the pics
55:03 <T3sl4> ew feet pics no
56:10 <Halcyon> Looks neat
56:16 <TheDude> feet pics yes ಠᴗಠ
56:18 <Halcyon> Metal top?
56:27 <TheDude> nah, I'd go for a wooden
56:41 <Halcyon> Yeh absolutely
56:44 <Halcyon> Metal is too cold
56:46 <T3sl4> everyone likes a woody
56:52 <TheDude> also I'm thinking of doing something less aesthetic
57:21 <TheDude> instead of going for something standard, like particle board with veneer cladding
57:38 <TheDude> instead just get thick plywood and use that
58:10 <TheDude> because it's roughly twice as strong as the particle board I've read
58:35 <TheDude> also want a rounded over corner where I'm going to rest my arms
58:39 <Halcyon> I bought a solid merbau top for my desk, which is designed to be a kitchen benchtop
58:40 <TheDude> edge*
59:35 * electrohead fondles T3sl4's woody
59:44 * T3sl4 makes Halcyon film
00:16 <Halcyon> Hahah
00:20 <Halcyon> You guys
01:06 <TheDude> hmm
01:53 <TheDude> gonna need to research the option of having a hardwood desktop
02:15 <TheDude> might request a couple of quotes from a carpenter or two
02:56 <TheDude> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt2d8dk6yqz90zy/1579196134899.png?dl=0
02:57 <EEVBot> [Title] - Dropbox - 1579196134899.png - Simplify your life
02:59 <TheDude> oh shit
02:59 <TheDude> wait
03:02 <TheDude> https://www.dropbox.com/s/zt2d8dk6yqz90zy/1579196134899.png?raw=1
03:04 <TheDude> there we g
03:05 <TheDude> o
04:38 <T3sl4> double boomer joke
04:48 <T3sl4> the pic, and, ppl still use dropbox?
05:10 * TheDude loudly reeeees at T3sl4 
07:51 * electrohead films
19:02 <Nothing\> cool, i found a bunch of fossils
19:48 <Nothing\> there are these big blocks of limestone at the entrance of the park near here and they're all packed full of fossils. Not sure of what though
36:34 <T3sl4> i forget what series, devonian silurian or what, but there's a lot of that around here
36:40 <T3sl4> probably the same one
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51:10 <T3sl4> have done that once or twice
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10:57 <jaymax> Lifehack if you want to have cold showers but cannot take the first step: cut up jalapeno and/or other hot peppers, handle the seeds (e.g. split from flesh to save them for toasting), and then wipe your forehead.
12:18 <jaymax> For any other usecase of this hack, 0/10 will not recommend. For this usecase, 2/10 you'll be wasting a lot of water.
14:14 <T3sl4> toasting seeds?
14:54 <jaymax> Infuse oil
16:24 <T3sl4> is that actually a thing and i've just managed to never hear about it? chili seeds used like a spice?
16:56 <T3sl4> or is it just that, when most people say "take the seeds out" they really mean the squishy membrane stuff they're on
16:57 <jaymax> Is effectively crushed chillis. I'll tell you one thing - unless the kick went 99.40% airborne, that infused oil will be radioactive.
17:28 <T3sl4> or is it dried chili flake
17:39 <jaymax> That is another name.
17:44 <T3sl4> right
17:50 <jaymax> Minor technical differences.
18:17 <T3sl4> which, always bothered me that they leave the seeds in, or sometimes stems for that matter, give or take additional pulverization to make chili powder as such
18:29 <T3sl4> but yeah, dried chili is nice
19:42 <jaymax> For this, it's toasted enough for a few seeds to "pop". They are currently cooling off before I dump them into a bottle and chase it with vegetable oil.
19:58 <T3sl4> ah
20:50 <jaymax> Chilli seeds I added dried paprika in the final stage; jalapeno seeds I added some crushed garlic.
20:53 * electrohead RIPs T3sl4
20:58 * electrohead EIGRPs jaymax
21:03 * T3sl4 beanfarts in electrohead's mouth
22:45 <jaymax> BTW, I have evacuated to a different floor - the capsacin cloud is either heading up the stairs, or I'm exhaling remnants stuck in my lungs.
22:59 <T3sl4> change your shirt
23:06 <jaymax> I'm nekke
23:07 <jaymax> d
23:15 <T3sl4> i know what i said
23:25 * T3sl4 finds the flaying knife, makes electrohead film
24:01 * jaymax flings capsacin dust.
24:02 <electrohead> \o/
24:12 * jaymax hides
24:25 <electrohead> jaymax: if you jerk off right now, will capsacin dust coming shooting out?
24:30 <electrohead> imagine that burn lol
25:10 <jaymax> The better risk/reward is go downstairs and find my CBD oil.
25:34 <jaymax> Then rub that on my ballsack.
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27:18 <jaymax> OK I'm going in - pray for me.
28:25 <T3sl4> going in your ballsack?
37:49 <Ampera> boobs
37:51 <Ampera> tiddies
37:56 <T3sl4> peni
37:57 <Ampera> great balls of desire
38:04 * Ampera hugs T3sl4 
38:05 <Ampera> how are you
38:19 * T3sl4 claps cheeks around Ampera
38:36 * Ampera moans a tune
38:47 <T3sl4> just starting dinner :)
38:47 <Ampera> how are you T3zz4?
39:02 <Ampera> sounds good
44:50 * electrohead rubs Ampera against T3sl4
44:59 * Ampera kisses electrohead 
45:06 <Ampera> how are you doing electroboy?
46:21 <electrohead> No, you're a towel!
46:26 <electrohead> Lol, good here, you?
47:14 <Ampera> tired sad and horny
47:16 <Ampera> the trifecta
49:25 <electrohead> weeee
50:12 <electrohead> so, I'm getting good with GNS3
50:13 <electrohead> heh
50:20 <electrohead> another fucking hobby
50:22 <electrohead> thanks, Halcyon
50:28 * electrohead waits for him to get back
51:27 <T3sl4> no horny, only bonk!
51:32 * T3sl4 bonks Ampera, with his dick
53:00 * Ampera sucks T3sl4 like a suction powered dick sucking machine
54:17 <T3sl4> such a pro
58:07 * electrohead films
01:34 <electrohead> learning how to advertise routes on both EBGP and IBGP is actually quite fun
01:44 * electrohead enters hax0r mode
02:11 <Halcyon> :D
02:19 * T3sl4 munches pasta tossed with butter, and sauteed onion, green pepper, mushroom and shrimps
02:31 <Halcyon> Sounds yummy
02:34 <Halcyon> No chilli?
02:45 <T3sl4> green bell pepper
02:54 <T3sl4> should grab some cayenne actually hmm
03:01 * electrohead adds chicken
03:27 * T3sl4 tofus electrohead
04:21 <electrohead> I've never had that, actually
04:23 <electrohead> how is it?
04:34 <T3sl4> tofu? bland
06:05 <T3sl4> i'm not sure how/if you can really use it as the centerpiece of a meal, but it's a good source of protein
07:49 <steve30> i've used it in stirfrys as filler
08:08 <T3sl4> yeah
11:17 <T3sl4> speaking of filler, this would be okay with a few peas sprinkled in
15:35 <jaymax> Getting the oil and finish packing up the heat T3sl4 ... https://maxuel.compy.ca:8443/index.php/s/zfQLpz3gyrGmFX3
15:37 <EEVBot> [Title] -
16:06 <T3sl4> nice
16:13 <jaymax> Divided the peppers themselves for freezing.
16:43 <jaymax> Feels like I still need to wash my hands more.
16:54 <T3sl4> you will
17:05 <electrohead> jaymax: do you have a direct link, instead of a page that required javascript?
17:13 <electrohead> requires*
18:36 <jaymax> I don't know.
19:53 <jaymax> Actually yes - add the "/download" suffix.
22:04 <jaymax> electrohead it's a TIL - and it's only 18 minutes into the day!
22:24 <electrohead> that's a tiny bit better, but now it forces me to download :p
23:11 <jaymax> It's a photo - wget it with an output to a jpeg extension.
23:28 <jaymax> That's how I tisted it.
23:36 <electrohead> you make it so hard to just view it :p
23:54 * T3sl4 MIMEs downloading a file
24:10 <jaymax> Here, lemme upload it as a Tiktok then. :^D
25:04 <electrohead> nah, you don't have to lol
26:05 <jaymax> Good, bcos it'd be more work for me than for you.
26:29 <electrohead> Damn Canadians.
26:43 <steve30> does anyone know what Tiktok actually does?
26:47 <jaymax> I blame Vermont
26:56 <steve30> i keep hearing it mentioned in the news but i've no idea what it is
27:16 <T3sl4> it's the tumblr of youtube
27:49 <electrohead> And owned by the Chinese gooberment
28:16 <jaymax> steve30 it's like that Chinpokomon episode from South Park, but no physical toys.
29:46 <electrohead> lol
00:40 <DHess_US> https://gunfreezone.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/cross-aliens.jpg
16:01 <jaymax> I guess I'm not sleeping tonight. Laid down, and my sinuses flooded.
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33:32 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI-OT6-TZRA
33:44 <Halcyon> There is something so ominous about huge motors like that
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