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46:07 * steve30 is planning on chinese-ing tonight
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20:24 * jaymax was thinking the same
20:40 * jaymax tosses steve30 the extra eggroll
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52:50 <T3sl4> oh cool, fedex says they're going to deliver me a package in the next 8 minutes
59:35 <Ampera> T3sl4, if it's a minute later you should smack the fedex guy with the back of your glove and demand satisfaction
59:56 <T3sl4> can't get no
59:59 <T3sl4> satisfaction
00:05 <T3sl4> ding.
00:30 <T3sl4> i can technically and officially be mad now
02:07 <steve30> did the package not come?
09:08 <T3sl4> startlingly, it did not
09:35 * steve30 wonders what the package contains 
12:02 <T3sl4> just some stuff a client is shipping over
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41:22 <watcher> Hello
48:01 <rust_collector> HELLO!
48:08 <rust_collector> awwww, banned
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06:20 <steve30> hi
07:21 <Watcher_2> whatsup
10:42 <jaymax> ... doc
12:15 <Watcher_2> yes bucks
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17:18 <Nothing\> it's interesting as i earn story/quest-based achievements for this game on steam, being able to see what percentage of people who played the game actually got that far
17:43 <Nothing\> it's also confusing that just over 50% of players even began the first quest
17:55 <Nothing\> yet the game got overwhelmingly positive reviews
18:28 <Nothing\> you'd expect if only half the people who played it bothered to play for more than an hour it wouldn't get very good reviews
18:59 <jaymax> Maybe people like thew very idea of the game - but don't play games in general.
19:07 <jaymax> Which game is this?
19:14 <Nothing\> hell even as a semi-illiterate 6 year old with ADD I was able to get about 1/3 of the way through the game without understanding any of the strategy or anything behind JRPGs
19:23 <Nothing\> jaymax, final fantasy 2/4
19:32 <Nothing\> american 2, japanese 4
20:00 <Nothing\> jaymax, thing is, it's a remake so it's not like people didn't know what they were getting into
20:05 <jaymax> Nintendo simps, so that explains the great reviews without even playing it.
20:23 <Nothing\> well it's not so much reviews without playing it
20:32 <Nothing\> they just didn't play it, that's all
20:45 <jaymax> But that's still my point.
20:47 <Nothing\> like on steam you have to have played a game for a few hours before it lets you review them anyways
21:11 <Nothing\> but you could just as easily just wander around the first area before the first dungeon
21:21 <Nothing\> leveling for a few hours or something
21:22 <Nothing\> i dunno
21:54 <jaymax> Being a fanboy doesn't mean you need to actually need to eat everything when hauling up to the trough.
22:04 <Nothing\> maybe it was just too hard for them cuz it's based on the japanese release, which was obviously harder than the north american release
22:12 <Nothing\> then there's a hard mode on top of that
22:19 <jaymax> As in, they see a Nintendo release; immediate 5 stars.
22:33 <Nothing\> jaymax, i've come close to that
22:56 <Nothing\> like with this game, there was another remake of final fantasy 2/4 that just came out a week before i got this one
23:13 <Nothing\> and i almost just bought the game reflexively, without checking anything about it
23:28 <Nothing\> just cuz i figured you can't go wrong with a remake of final fantasy 2/4
24:46 <Nothing\> but the first review i read said they added very little to the game so i figured it was better to just buy THIS remake instead, where it's a full 3d remake of a game that was released with the SNES and basically everything about the game except the very fundamentals like story and characters etc have been changed
25:09 <Nothing\> so i figured it'd be better to just go with that. Plus i've played through it multiple times so i know it's a good remake
25:59 <Nothing\> my only problem is it's got a lot bunch of mechanics in it where you have to do things exactly the right way or risk screwing up your playthrough and having to start over again
26:27 <Nothing\> or worse, you have 2 other harder playthroughs after the first so you could potentially screw up your 3rd playthrough and have to start all over again
26:49 <Nothing\> but the game gives you absolutely no hint or advice on how to do this right or that the mechanic even exists
27:07 <jaymax> I stopped playing games years ago - `World of Goo` was my last endeavour. But something I've seen the past while is the "bending over the table" that Nintendo does to their customer base - very Disney-level of abuse, and it doesn't even matter what Nintendo realeases now - or how infrequently. It *will* be loved regardless.
27:16 <Nothing\> so i'm just following a guide i found on gamefaqs and using triple redundant saves
27:46 <Nothing\> i couldn't get into world of goo but yeah most of the games i play are indie games like that
28:02 <jaymax> I'm also half-asleep, but at least my generator is working again.
28:33 <Nothing\> yeah even though it wound up coming to almost $600 for me, i don't regret buying a switch
28:45 <Nothing\> just between mario odyssey and breath of the wild alone i got my money's worth
28:56 <Nothing\> nearly 1000 hours between the two
29:25 <jaymax> I have a Wii to hack further; might get one of those HDMI dongles for it.
29:47 <Nothing\> yeah i never use my wii anymore. I really should.
30:03 <Nothing\> i have this great hack of new super mario bros that's basically a full blown remake of it
30:16 <Nothing\> completely different levels, overworld layout, the whole nine yards
30:25 <Nothing\> might as well be a sequel
31:12 <Nothing\> but for some reason i can't get twilight princess to work on my modded wii. I just get graphical glitches so severe it's pretty much unplayable
31:22 <jaymax> IIRC I have Homebrew working on it, it's been a few months (at least) now so I might even have that linux distro on the SD card too.
31:31 <Nothing\> and for kirby, it plays fine for a littel bit, then freezes up after a couple of minutes
31:44 <Nothing\> for both games it doesn't matter what version i use or what options so i've given up
32:01 <Nothing\> nice
32:27 <jaymax> Like they say, HACK all the things
32:36 <Nothing\> exactly
32:42 <Nothing\> hacking just adds new functionality
32:47 <jaymax> Damn, HAKC all the things
32:47 <Nothing\> nothing wrong with that
32:54 <Nothing\> hack the world
33:01 <Nothing\> now then
33:01 <jaymax> hack time
33:09 <Nothing\> i've gotta hack up the location of my ecig
33:27 <Nothing\> since i just came from the can i'm gonna guess it's in there
33:50 <jaymax> I'm fading fast, so I'll go sleep
34:04 <Nothing\> heh alright man
34:10 <Nothing\> welp, have a good one
34:14 <Nothing\> hope you sleep well
34:16 <jaymax> Cheers
34:23 <Nothing\> aye, same to you
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34:19 <Halcyon> T3sl4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xk09txrvEPc
34:20 <EEVBot> [Title] - Youtube: Popcorn Face Warming Cat
35:04 * T3sl4 mews at Halcyon
37:33 <Halcyon> :P
37:36 <Halcyon> How are you mate?
40:36 <T3sl4> sipping a soul boxer
41:38 * T3sl4 old fashioneds Halcyon
42:21 <Halcyon> Oh ymmy
42:23 <Halcyon> Yummy
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40:32 <electrohead> o/
40:52 <DogWomble> \@/ /@\ @< ^@^
41:47 <electrohead> lol
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26:03 <Nothing\> std::cout << "Hey all!" << name << " here" << endl;
26:32 <Nothing\> i've decided i'm going to write a number guessing game in c++ and submit it to steam for sale
26:39 <Nothing\> i'll sell it for a penny
26:58 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
27:06 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera 
27:08 <Nothing\> hey buddy
27:12 <Nothing\> how's it going
28:00 * Ampera also fprint("%s is far better than %s", "C", "C++");'s Nothing\ 
28:12 <Ampera> Good going to do some electricianing today
29:39 <Nothing\> nice
30:17 <Ampera> some of my tea is coming in today
30:20 <Nothing\> Ampera, lol i forgot the weird syntax C has for printing variable
30:22 <Nothing\> s
30:30 <Nothing\> i thought it was printf though
30:34 <Nothing\> what's the difference?
30:35 <Ampera> it was
30:38 <Nothing\> ah
30:55 <Nothing\> what's the f stand for?
30:57 <Ampera> there is also fprintf, which I believe allows you to print to an open file handle
31:02 <Ampera> formatted
31:05 <Ampera> print formatted
31:07 <Nothing\> ah
31:09 <Ampera> and then file print formatted
31:12 <Ampera> since it's formatting it
31:30 <Nothing\> as opposode to just regurgitating the raw text to the screen
31:34 <Nothing\> opposed
31:43 <Ampera> I believe that'd be print
31:50 <Ampera> but there is no screen here
31:51 <Nothing\> ah yeah
31:52 <Ampera> it's stdout
31:55 <Ampera> well
31:59 <Nothing\> yeah i think that's about as far as i got in C
32:06 <Nothing\> printing variables
32:10 <Ampera> sorta stdout, I forget the exact term for it
32:18 <Ampera> I got some fun stuff done in C
32:25 <Nothing\> are there still datastreams like in c++?
32:32 <Ampera> probably the most interesting thing I wrote is a mandelbrot plotter in C/OpenGL
32:37 <Ampera> most valid C is also valid C++
32:54 <Nothing\> hrm
33:18 <Ampera> https://pastebin.com/F9PvdXNL
33:18 <Nothing\> i'm actually taking the time to read the c++ tutorial thistime around so i'm learning more about how it actually works
33:20 <EEVBot> [Title] - Mandelbrot.c - Pastebin.com
33:23 <Ampera> this was the mandelbrot thing I wrote
33:42 <Nothing\> it may take me a week to learn a simple thing like variables, or user input
34:02 <Nothing\> but at least i'm doing it right and not skipping anything
34:36 <Nothing\> nice
34:41 <Ampera> variables are easy in C
34:45 <Nothing\> that's another thing i never did was graphics
34:48 <Ampera> modifier type name = value
34:56 <Nothing\> the whole turtle way of doing graphics in basic turned me off of them
35:03 <Nothing\> it's so fucking tedious
35:08 <Nothing\> you know, like logos
35:21 <rust_collector> do it like legos
35:23 <Ampera> There are at least 20,000 ways to do graphics in C, and about 40,000 ways to do it in C++
35:42 <Ampera> the mandelbrot code I wrote was also because I wanted to use archaic OpenGL
35:51 <Nothing\> oh hey good news
36:01 <Nothing\> today's the first day in weeks i've woken up NOT in agony
36:20 <Nothing\> i mean i'm still in pain, but at least this time it's more like a 3/10 instead of a 5 or 6
36:37 <Nothing\> where 7's where i set my level for intolerable pain
36:42 <Nothing\> untolerable?
36:43 <Ampera> but you can use xterm, sixels, X11, vulkan, direct2D, direct3D, winG, DirectDraw, output to an image
36:52 <Nothing\> that's pretty cool
37:07 <Nothing\> qb64 only has the turtle graphics, opengl and i think direct3d
37:08 <Ampera> I learned C on Turbo C, which ran in real mode on IBM PC compatibles
37:25 <Nothing\> what? no umm
37:27 <Ampera> and there you can directly alter screen memory and set registers on the video card
37:31 <Nothing\> borland
37:33 <Nothing\> that's it
37:39 <Nothing\> drew a blank there for a second
37:41 <Ampera> aye, Borland's Turbo C
37:50 <Nothing\> oh i didn't know they were the same
38:00 <Ampera> Was a nice way to learn, though pointers are extra special in real mode C
38:10 <Nothing\> i woner if anyone ever ported C over to the C64
38:13 <Ampera> Yes.
38:15 <Nothing\> or if you ever could
38:27 <Nothing\> i mean you'd probably have to use a memory expansion cart
38:34 <Ampera> https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Power_C
38:35 <Ampera> here's one
38:36 <EEVBot> [Title] - Power C - C64-Wiki
38:39 <Nothing\> or keep a set of floppies on hand
38:53 <Nothing\> 1 floppy per library probably
39:03 <Nothing\> 840k
39:23 <Nothing\> wtf where do these lady beetles keep coming from
39:26 <Nothing\> brb
39:32 <rust_collector> africa
39:38 <Ampera> I imagine the main irritation would be the 40 col screen
39:51 <Ampera> it would probably make more sense to use the C128 with the 80 column chip
40:44 <Nothing\> yum
40:58 <Nothing\> it did that thing where it squirts foul smelling yellow liquid everywhere
41:07 <Nothing\> i dunno if it's piss or what
41:17 <Nothing\> but it smells like soil or something
41:24 <Nothing\> i figured it was a defense mechanism
41:47 <Nothing\> ah fuck i can smell it on my hand. musta got through the kleenex
41:48 <Nothing\> bcb
46:13 <Nothing\> ugh
46:21 <Nothing\> trying to farm this one weapon in ff2/4
46:27 <Nothing\> it is SO frustrating
47:08 <Nothing\> you have to grind on this specific island against monsters 10-15 levels higher than you, and the item only drops maybe 1%
47:29 <Nothing\> took me 10 tries just to figure out a strategy that works
48:11 <Nothing\> at least i'm leveling like crazy while doing it. fighting such high level enemies
48:38 <Nothing\> every so often i'll kill off all party members except 2 so i get more xp for the remaining 2 and do some power leveling
49:16 <Nothing\> and i'm sure this is all riveting for you guys
49:37 <Nothing\> so on that note i'm going to pop over to the 'done clinic
49:54 <Nothing\> get me some fuckin' 'done man
50:04 <Nothing\> FUCKIN' 'DOOOONE MAAAAAAAAN
50:14 * Nothing\ does his best dennis leary impression
51:04 <Nothing\> wtf how's it take my mum less time to poop than it takes me to pee
51:09 <Nothing\> that ain't right
57:45 <rust_collector> well, he is denis... just to put that on your list of not right
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