// #eevblog — 2021-10-12
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00:01:18 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog 1427 - An INFURIATING Electronics Exam Question! https://t.co/cKuqAqPITc
00:35:35 <Ysjoelfir> K !
00:35:43 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead !
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00:57:24 <electrohead> o/
00:57:27 * electrohead yawns
01:08:22 <Ysjoelfir> mornings mr. head
01:08:30 <Ysjoelfir> so, did you already receive your thing? :D
01:14:21 <electrohead> not yet!
01:14:27 <electrohead> it's .... somewhere
01:14:33 <electrohead> probably in the air
01:14:35 <electrohead> lol
01:20:36 <Ysjoelfir> xD
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01:30:37 * arch throws a potato at T3sl4
01:31:31 * T3sl4 ferments it
01:31:58 <arch> i have never had moonshine. how is it compared to whisky?
01:32:04 <T3sl4> harsh?
01:32:22 <electrohead> but amazing
01:32:40 <arch> i like the fragrance of whisky, really adds to the taste
01:32:47 <T3sl4> yes
01:33:18 <T3sl4> aged rum can be nice too, adds some of that molasses flavor with the woodyness
01:34:22 <Ysjoelfir> electrohead, maybe its also going by sea. DHL warned that low priority shipments might go by sea due to cost restrictions. I could have made it a prio shipment, but that would have increased the shipping costs from.... what was it, 58?€ to over 100 xD
01:35:28 <arch> yee, i love rum too. it seems i don't have a taste for the low alcohol content stuff tho. especially dislike beer, idk how you people drink that shit
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01:36:59 <T3sl4> hm, how old are you again?
01:37:44 <arch> 28
01:38:06 <T3sl4> couldn't remember if you were like college age or what :P
01:39:35 <arch> ikr, im quite dumb
01:39:53 * T3sl4 pats arch
01:40:41 <arch> i have to work today, and it's Native Genocide day
01:41:16 <arch> fuckers took out the native american from the Land O Lakes logo, wtf. first they took their land, then they took their identity too
01:42:14 <arch> corporate has no idea what they're doing. what's with logos these days, they keep dumbing everything down
01:42:18 <arch> like all the google shit
01:43:50 <T3sl4> well, aint no one improving the schools, what do you expect
01:43:54 <electrohead> Ysjoelfir: oh ok, all is good. in that case, your package is floating!
01:43:56 <electrohead> :p
01:44:26 <T3sl4> we all float down here
01:45:22 <electrohead> is it modest mouse that does the song 'float on'?
01:45:30 <T3sl4> aye
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01:52:50 <watcher> Hello
01:52:51 <EEVBot> Hello, watcher!
01:53:06 <T3sl4> o/
01:53:23 <electrohead> o/
01:55:20 <watcher> started a email convertation this weekend with odysee about a bug
01:55:29 <watcher> they will look in to it
01:56:16 <watcher> for some resean the full page crashed when you want to play a vid in tor browser
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02:39:02 <TheDude> hey :)
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03:00:23 <electrohead> for anyone wanting to use freepbx, here's the file to edit, to remove the google analytics bullshit - amp_conf/htdocs/admin/views/footer.php
03:01:18 <electrohead> line 191
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03:26:58 * steve30000 waves from the thinkpad
03:29:08 <TheDude> o/
03:33:32 <watcher> o/
03:42:45 * Ampera hugs TheDude
03:42:48 <Ampera> how are you dudeing
03:45:57 <watcher> good
03:46:10 <Ampera> you're not dude, but close enough
03:46:30 <watcher> i got that just after I send it
03:59:25 <TheDude> heya
03:59:32 <TheDude> I was just making food
03:59:48 <TheDude> doing alright, Ampera
04:00:25 <TheDude> had a nice chat with a lady from a job agency today :)
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04:01:00 <Ampera> you and enhanox....
04:01:07 <Ampera> huh
04:01:23 <TheDude> job hunting is kinda fun, actually :)
04:01:36 <steve30000> i gave up looking for work
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04:02:36 <TheDude> I have trouble believing that you'd struggle with finding a job steve30000
04:02:57 <TheDude> they're looking for engineers / computer wizards everywhere these days
04:03:35 <TheDude> and I do mean it, when I say looking
04:03:52 <TheDude> because these two potential jobs both came to me
04:04:12 <TheDude> got headhunted and I have fuckall experience
04:04:29 <TheDude> they'd be swarming you with job offers
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04:07:15 <steve30000> cool
04:07:58 <steve30000> I'm not saying I couldn't get a job. I'm not looking at the moment due to long term illness, and that's why i haven't been looking for years. But recessions and coronaviruses have never helped.
04:08:43 <steve30000> Funnily enough, I was saying to someone in a video interview a year ago that I haven't got a hope in hells chance of finding work now, what with all the business closures, but now there are actually quite a lot of job vacancies.
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04:12:02 <TheDude> try setting up a linkedin profile
04:12:17 <TheDude> and actually putting in time to fill it in
04:12:45 <TheDude> I was astounded how quickly it garnered interest from head hunters and such
04:13:53 <watcher> TheDude, the jobs that head hunters offered you where they in your area (like within 60minute car drive) from you living place?
04:14:49 <TheDude> yup
04:15:17 <TheDude> but I do have the advantage of living right in the nation's capital
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04:15:48 <TheDude> and most business is rather centralized here, so there's a lot of choices nearby
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04:16:38 <watcher> in my area they see, 'yeh we have a job in your area and you dont need to drive every they to other companys' but it is like 2 - 3 hours car drive from your house and exact the kind of job you dont want
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04:18:02 <watcher> they get only paid if they deliver x amount of contact detials the de company that hired them and they dont care that you are not the right person for the kob
04:18:09 <watcher> *kob - job
04:18:37 <TheDude> yeah, that kinda sucks
04:18:48 <TheDude> you're from the netherlands?
04:19:03 <watcher> yes
04:19:12 <watcher> how do you now that?
04:19:19 <TheDude> hehehe
04:19:36 <TheDude> whois reveals your network provider
04:20:12 <watcher> and you just googled kpn?
04:20:17 <TheDude> yup
04:20:27 <TheDude> opened their site and saw dutch
04:20:43 <TheDude> then I just checked the company information and saw that they're from rotterdam
04:21:00 <TheDude> just to confirm that you're not from like ZA or something
04:21:26 <watcher> no iam not in ZA
04:21:36 <TheDude> yeah, we've established that
04:22:03 <TheDude> anyhow, do you live in a very rural area?
04:22:27 <watcher> there are now very rural area's in The Netherlands
04:22:58 <TheDude> what about working remotely? is that not available in general?
04:24:47 <watcher> just the 4-5 big(ger) city's where like 10% of the people live and them some smaller city's and then you get towns with farmland in between but not feather them like 15 min car drive between the towns add max (or 3-5 km in a straight line)
04:25:07 <steve30000> headphones don't go very loud on this thinkpad
04:25:17 <electrohead> steve30000: headphone amp?
04:25:21 <electrohead> and, hey o/
04:25:30 <watcher> about the remotely work qeustion. yes that is a option by a lot of company's also part time remote
04:26:18 <steve30000> its loud enough for me to not want external hardware, but quiet enough for me to complain
04:27:21 <electrohead> lol
04:29:37 <watcher> bye bye
04:29:53 <TheDude> o/
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04:57:53 <steve30000> the keyboard on this thinkpad is nice
04:59:48 <rust_collector> are you happy with the stinkpad, in general? I think a 420 would work well for most things
04:59:56 <steve30000> its good
05:00:10 <steve30000> i've given it a good clean up and it looks better.
05:00:16 <rust_collector> my neighbor has a T61 as a work computer, lol
05:00:44 <steve30000> I also put my 500GB SSD in which already had slackware installed so i'm running that now, but i intend to do a fresh insall
05:01:01 <steve30000> I'd guess the T61 is still quite usable for a lot of things.
05:02:02 <rust_collector> yes, sure it is, but I also see how many of the newer ones we haul to be recycled, so I think it is a bit weird that his company still used those old things
05:03:02 <rust_collector> I have a thing for the T40. I want one, and I have no idea why
05:03:17 <steve30000> if it works reliably they may as well keep it (provided they don't need to upgrade)
05:03:41 <steve30000> I have the R40 which i think was intended as a cheaper alternative to the T40
05:04:20 <rust_collector> right. But I see most companies these days have a 5 year or so thing, where they just replace everything. good for me, I am not sure if it does anything good for the companies
05:06:00 <steve30000> probably easier for a big company to upgrade the whole fleet rather than keeping lots of spare parts for older modes.
05:07:12 <Sigyn> I have a E595
05:08:34 <rust_collector> well, I would think they could have a few new spare machines, so when one broke, you just got a new one. oh well.
05:09:43 <rust_collector> I think I will see if I can get my emachines some model going again. there is nothing special about it, except I really like the screen it has. I just think it looks nice, for some reason
05:25:18 <Kuschelpony> should i copy some bad british humor here?
05:25:46 <rust_collector> yes!
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06:20:43 <K> gratings from denmark
06:22:25 <rust_collector> blææ blæææ blææææ mu my
06:22:34 <Ampera> you ashhole
06:22:38 <rust_collector> hello to denmark
06:22:49 <rust_collector> hey Ampera
06:23:07 <Ampera> hey rusticles
06:23:39 <rust_collector> is anything interesting happening in your area?
06:23:53 <Ampera> I am on the phone with my telco
06:23:59 <Ampera> have been waiting for 45 minutes to get someone
06:24:07 <rust_collector> niiice!
06:24:16 <Ampera> yaaaay deutsche telekom
06:27:02 <rust_collector> deutsche grammophon
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07:00:05 <rust_collector> RING RING!!!!!! RING RING!!!!
07:00:34 <rust_collector> you are number 9 in line, thank you for waiting
07:00:53 <Ampera> finally got in after an hour, everything's been taken care of
07:05:50 <Ampera> uh
07:05:54 <Ampera> T-Mobile just gave me another free line
07:06:22 <Ampera> if this bill is right, I'm getting 160USD/mo in discounts from that, and I have a 10 line account for 300 bucks...
07:23:20 <electrohead> Ampera: you should hook me up
07:23:56 <Ampera> electrohead, believe it or not you're in the running for who gets my spare line
07:24:15 <electrohead> lol
07:24:15 <Ampera> I'll let you know what gets decided if you're serious
07:29:48 <electrohead> how much would I have to pay a month?
07:29:53 <electrohead> just curious
07:34:10 <Ampera> We can negotiate, but 30/mo would be fine by me
07:34:37 <Ampera> the plan it T-Mobile's magenta max, so it's top tier
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08:17:55 <steve30> that sleep didn't last long
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09:22:00 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Interesting when you look at it that way! https://t.co/4T9aV2Gn99
09:25:29 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - I think I goofed the daylight savings time with @ElectroBOOMGuy Hanging out on my own :-( https://t.co/0iJUL2FKuO
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09:34:12 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Has Victoria peaked too? https://t.co/25r9flKut5
09:34:22 <arch> woooo, i love podman/docker. just did a backup and restore of an image and the volumes, then launched the app and BAM, started right up no problems
09:34:32 <arch> on another machine*
09:34:37 <Halcyon_Work> YAY
09:35:27 <arch> i am a fucking cheapskate. got a t3.nano reserved for 3 years for $51 lol
09:35:43 <arch> and i put a 256mb swap file and 128mb zram lol
09:35:53 <arch> cuz you only get 512mb ram on a t3.nano
09:36:50 <arch> if only alpine linux was officially supported on aws, i would be so happy
09:37:31 <steve30> hi
09:37:32 <arch> debian is kind of chubby on a t3, but way better than putting amazonlinux--ram hog
09:38:46 <Halcyon_Work> Hey Steve :)
09:42:55 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - With a bonus of me critiquing Chris's layout :-P https://t.co/plJqddB8UP
09:47:20 <steve30> Is the Windows 7 installer supposed to boot from a memory card or do I have to burn a DVD?
09:47:40 <Halcyon_Work> You should be able to write the ISO to a USB key
09:47:45 <steve30> My thinkpad won't boot it from a card
09:48:05 <arch> steve30, use the program Rufus. it's open source, and you use it to make a bootable Windows flashdrive
09:48:09 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - RT @sad_electronics: A Video on showing the inside of a NAND Storage chip. Decapped with laser. Originally posted by kolegaininformatyk on…
09:48:24 <Halcyon_Work> Yeh Rufus works well
09:48:25 <arch> bootable windows 10 installer i mean
09:50:45 <steve30> thanks
09:53:06 <arch> why are you installing windows 7 btw? you know you can install and use windows10 for free, without registering? the only downside is a watermark on the bottom right corner, but that's not even noticeable
09:53:26 <arch> better yet, install linux. damn normies
09:53:57 * steve30 hisses at windows 10
09:54:30 * arch replaces steve30's windows usb with Miley Cyrus Linux usb
09:54:38 <steve30> hehe
09:55:17 <steve30> i put my 'old' SSD in the thinkpad which contains a slackwar install and that runs quite nicely.
09:55:52 <arch> thinkpads will outlive humanity itself
09:56:11 <arch> except the new thinkpads that are copying apple. those can go to hell
10:15:48 <Halcyon_Work> Some of the arch
10:15:58 <Halcyon_Work> Others like the P1 are still upgradable and servicable.
10:16:04 <Halcyon_Work> *are
10:29:27 <arch> for shits and giggles, i am trying out pigz with the "-11" (ultra uber maximum compression) flag, and this shit is taking forever
10:29:43 <arch> apparently it offers a few percent reduced archive size
10:30:21 <arch> sooooo, it's not worth it. went from 47MB to 45MB....and took more than 10x as long to compress
10:30:28 <arch> compared to the default -6 flag
10:35:21 <arch> Halcyon_Work, https://i.imgur.com/WUpDM8C.jpg
10:35:45 <arch> https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/facebook/001/274/192/ff7.jpg
10:36:21 <Halcyon_Work> Hahaha
10:36:22 <Halcyon_Work> Wow
10:42:06 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Thumbnail or title? or both? https://t.co/LTOLJX8xod
11:18:43 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Amazing no one was killed. Excellent article. https://t.co/38q8xC4ZFM
11:37:55 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Some people wanted a shorter version of my 30min solar panel shadow video so they can share with people, so here it… https://t.co/cnmmhdCVqm
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11:47:59 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/WUpDM8C.jpg - In reference to this...
11:48:04 <electrohead> I just called that number
11:48:17 <electrohead> Someone picked up, answered "hello"
11:48:34 <electrohead> So I replied "Is this hee heee he distributors?"
11:48:47 <electrohead> Dude replied "what do you want?"
11:49:02 <electrohead> I then I replied to him, that I was told to call that number, to say thank you
11:49:06 <electrohead> and he hung up on me
11:49:07 <electrohead> LOL
11:52:43 <electrohead> I just sent that dude the picture of that truck
11:53:03 <electrohead> Let's see what kind of confusion brings to the plate, shall we.
11:53:07 <electrohead> \o/
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12:56:41 <Ampera> you need a ZNC badly
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12:58:11 <cheeseandchives> This is a bit of a question - does anyone remember an archive that was online on some old website that had a load of scans from a CRT production factory's manuals that a retiring engineer scanned. I think it might have been a US RCA factory's stuff, it had all sorts of how the tubes were formed and phosphors applied and baked. Been looking for it again for ages and can't find it, may have bitrotted out of the
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13:48:40 <T3sl4> cheeseandchives: sounds like somthing the TV history museum would have, if anyone
13:49:23 <T3sl4> if you can't find it public, can always ask someone
13:51:52 <EEVBot> [Twitter] - eevblog - Flat Earth warning on @thunderf00t 's latest video! https://t.co/zsJ7L60Ssc https://t.co/unLRJgg7Fm
13:53:36 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/AmhloHj
13:53:37 <EEVBot> [Title] - She wanted to be a transformer - Album on Imgur
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15:13:17 <T3sl4> steve30: https://www.reddit.com/r/IllegallySmolCats/comments/q67cai/apparently_i_have_been_weighed_i_have_been/
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15:38:29 <watcher> o/
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17:45:01 <Ysjoelfir> morningses
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18:55:35 <Halcyon> Evening
19:15:42 <Ysjoelfir> mornings Hulkion
19:16:04 <Halcyon> How are you?
19:21:43 <Ysjoelfir> Well fed. Just had a nice moist sticky Brownie with pecan nuts and caramel from our morning breakfast truck thingy
19:21:57 <Ysjoelfir> and you?
19:39:15 <Halcyon> Oh yummy
19:39:17 <Halcyon> Not too bad
19:47:54 <Ysjoelfir> it was indeed very not bad.
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21:00:18 <steve30> hi
21:01:21 <Ysjoelfir> sti heve
21:11:34 <Halcyon> Who has an STI?
21:14:34 <Ysjoelfir> heve
21:15:14 <steve30> i'm going to my dad's for lunch in a bit
21:26:07 * Halcyon hugs steve30
21:26:16 <Halcyon> I don't think you've ever mentioned your father?
21:31:02 <steve30> I probably mention grandparents more on IRC as they tend to be more trouble
21:56:58 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
21:58:55 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
22:01:10 <Lartza> I don't understand why my USB charger's port was greasy when nothing inside is broken
22:01:54 <Lartza> This is why I deal with software, it's always so obvious and uncomplicated ;P
22:02:52 <Ampera> hahahaha
22:02:59 <Ampera> obvious and uncomplicated
22:02:59 <Ampera> hahaha
22:03:02 <Lartza> :P
22:03:20 <Lartza> I guess it can be from inside the transformer I can't really tell because it's so compact
22:03:52 <Lartza> Whatever it was taking it apart was far from non-destructive and I've ordered a new one already
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23:28:57 <electrohead> o/
23:32:09 * Ampera hugs electrohead
23:32:18 <Ampera> how are you powerguy?
23:33:14 <electrohead> tired, need. coffee.
23:33:16 * electrohead dies
23:33:22 <electrohead> lol, how are you?
23:33:23 <Ampera> good riddance
23:33:27 <Ampera> I am tired
23:33:28 <Ampera> need tea
23:33:37 <Ampera> good thing I have a flaming hot cup of tea right here
23:33:59 * electrohead adds proper fire
23:34:21 * Ampera adds improper fire, the sort of slutty fire that takes its clothes off and sucks your dick for free
23:52:32 <Ysjoelfir> oy mr head
23:52:59 <Ysjoelfir> USPS started listing your package :) you can find it with the same number. though its not far yet
23:55:23 <Ampera> electrohead, next time use transglobal express, they're cheaper for shipping to Germany
23:55:29 <Ampera> and you get DHL express instead of just USPS
23:58:55 <Ysjoelfir> its the other way around
23:59:16 <Ampera> huh?
23:59:20 <Ampera> oh
23:59:27 <Ampera> actually it may still apply
23:59:33 <Ampera> check the prices, as they're quite cheap from transglobal
23:59:48 <Ampera> might not be as relatively cheap, because shipping from Germany is cheaper than shipping to Germany
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