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00:01:28 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1339 - Looking at an Electric Bus! https://t.co/XGa6G9cFZn
00:02:18 <rust_collector> mmmh, the hyundai ironic. great car
00:07:12 <rust_collector> the next step has to be the yota turban cruiser hybrid. I dunno
00:08:02 <rust_collector> but... that is one of the ugliest buses I have seen
00:11:08 <Ysjoelfir> I have always been a biker guy. kind of. with a little pause in between. why? :D
00:11:18 <Ysjoelfir> and I have never seen that bus before.
00:11:47 <rust_collector> I just wish I had not seen it now.
00:15:12 <Ysjoelfir> it looks like a fiat multipla, just without those stupid extra lights
00:16:10 <K> ah, didn't know they have the steering wheel on the wrong side in Australia
00:16:14 <K> weak.
00:16:44 <Ysjoelfir> I discovered that some... weeks (?) ago, too, and was quite irritated
00:16:58 <Ysjoelfir> thought those brits are the only ones that drive on the wrong side
00:17:15 <K> wait, they drive like normal ppl, but wheel is on the other side?
00:17:16 <rust_collector> so people in suriname means nothing to you?
00:17:27 <K> not much indeed, rusty
00:17:39 <K> i'm quite sure it is mutual
00:17:40 <Ysjoelfir> where is that?
00:18:05 <rust_collector> top of south america, it used to be dutch
00:19:18 <Ysjoelfir> just found that. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/32/Countries_driving_on_the_left_or_right.svg
00:19:23 <Ysjoelfir> damn, thats quite a lot more than I thought
00:19:51 <rust_collector> I am not sure if it still is like that, but eastern russia tend to have the wheel on the other side. or did, at least
00:19:54 <Ysjoelfir> I like how there are two little left sided dots on the coast of china :D
00:20:03 <rust_collector> as they imported from japan
00:20:14 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds legit
00:20:52 <K> that is too much
00:20:57 <K> something has to be done.
00:21:22 <rust_collector> k do something
00:21:23 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely. lets start with those two blue dots in front of china. that should be easy, shouldn't it?
00:21:27 <K> eastern russia does this because of cheap imported japanese cars
00:22:15 <rust_collector> but ladas are still expensive here. let us bomb them
00:22:28 <Ysjoelfir> I like ladas.
00:22:36 <Ysjoelfir> I also like ural motorcycles.
00:24:32 <rust_collector> you can make an electric ural
00:24:46 <Ysjoelfir> where is the fun in that?
00:25:10 <Ysjoelfir> also, where on my way from the top of the trollstigen to the nordkap could I charge that?
00:25:21 <rust_collector> well, you get to make an electric ural, and drive around in it,
00:25:35 <rust_collector> sure you could.
00:25:46 <Ysjoelfir> and don't tell me to stuff tons of batteries into the sideboat :D I think kelly would like to have a comfy seat instead of a bunch of batteries^^
00:25:59 <Ysjoelfir> I know, you guys have many many charging things. way more than we have actually
00:26:01 <rust_collector> but they are nice and warm
00:26:11 <Ysjoelfir> true
00:26:27 <rust_collector> you should see nordkapp in winter
00:26:44 <Ysjoelfir> I would love to. I expect a bit of snow.
00:26:50 <rust_collector> probably
00:27:02 <rust_collector> but that makes the hot batteries less annoying
00:27:08 <Ysjoelfir> true
00:27:24 <rust_collector> forklift motor should be fine in an ural
00:27:52 <coppice> "I like Ladas" sounds like a declaration by fiat
00:28:01 <Ysjoelfir> maybe? but otoh, why would you replace that beautiful wannabe BMW engine? oh, did you read that BMW announced/showed a new attempt to kill harley davidson?^^
00:28:10 <rust_collector> uh, no
00:29:33 <coppice> how can BMW bikes kill Harley Davidson? Each antique has its own unique position
00:29:40 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.bmw-motorrad.de/de/experience/stories/heritage/conceptr18.html
00:30:01 <rust_collector> hmm, talking about that blyatiful bmw engine... I should ask the local ural guy if he ever got our slightly hot rodded engine going
00:30:04 <Ysjoelfir> well, at least the press says that it could. especially since harley is/was (?) in trouble
00:30:35 <rust_collector> uhm, no... that just looks weird
00:31:03 <coppice> Harley is always in trouble. that seems to be part of its charm, and hence marketing position
00:31:24 <Ysjoelfir> press guy was like "my fist thought was: damn, thats ugly. than I sat onto that and drove it a bit, and damn, thats such a nice bike."
00:31:38 <rust_collector> I am sure it rides nice, but no
00:31:45 <Ysjoelfir> I personally would have chosen a different style of exhaust though
00:31:51 <rust_collector> that too
00:32:08 <Ysjoelfir> maybe those they have on the Kawasaki W800
00:32:47 <rust_collector> I think more bikes should have turbos...
00:33:21 <Ysjoelfir> I think more bikes should have 6 cylinder in line engines
00:33:30 <Ysjoelfir> I think I should have more bikes
00:33:57 <Ysjoelfir> also, my uncle has one of those bikes that were available with an optional turbo. the good old honda CX500
00:34:29 <rust_collector> yeah. when was that from?
00:35:05 <Ysjoelfir> late 70s to mid 80s IIRC
00:36:03 <rust_collector> The engine management stuff and modern turbos are just that much more better, so I think they could make a nice reliable bike with that now. without weird turbo lag and stuff
00:36:45 <rust_collector> I just have to think that having a lot of ketchup effect on the power curve of a bike would be...less nice
00:37:25 <Ysjoelfir> that could well be the case.
00:38:05 <Ysjoelfir> I would still like to have 1) a Kawasaki Z1300 (the old one. the inline 6.) 2) a benelli SEI 900.
00:38:16 <Ysjoelfir> and a Kawasaki MACH 3, because why not
00:38:44 <rust_collector> I still miss my crappy old moped, lol
00:39:03 <Ysjoelfir> I still have mine.
00:39:20 <Ysjoelfir> also, I'm close to be done with work today! yay!
00:40:31 <rust_collector> I am close to going to work, aya!
00:40:42 <Ysjoelfir> aww :(
00:40:56 <Ysjoelfir> I wish you much suffer and thus much money than.
00:41:11 <rust_collector> well, in theory, my moped is still registered in my name...If I just had an idea of where it is
00:41:19 <Ysjoelfir> lol
00:41:40 <rust_collector> cj1936 is the number
00:42:00 <rust_collector> and no, I do not know why I remember that
00:42:09 <Ysjoelfir> XD
00:42:18 <Ysjoelfir> you should search that :)
00:42:32 <Ysjoelfir> maybe its just hidden under a pile of stuff in your garage?
00:42:33 <rust_collector> I traded it with some guy for 2 puch maxi s s
00:42:45 <rust_collector> that is not totally impossible
00:43:19 <rust_collector> the puch was also pretty nice. it its own way
00:45:28 <Ysjoelfir> my dad had a rebranded Puch IIRC. it was from Karstadt or Neckermann and was called "Bergsteiger"
00:45:41 <Ysjoelfir> no, wait
00:45:44 <Ysjoelfir> thwat was not the name
00:45:48 <Ysjoelfir> but somethign simmilar
00:46:10 Quit: hsn ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
00:46:46 <Ysjoelfir> however, I'm off. cu
00:46:55 <rust_collector> have enjoys
00:47:06 <Ysjoelfir> I will :)
00:47:29 <rust_collector> say hi to mrs battery heater blanket
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02:54:27 <Ampera> update to the EEVBot coming soon, going to be experimenting on a new feature live
02:54:32 <Ampera> it may break spectacularly, get your popcorn
02:55:11 <Ysjoelfir> nice, I'm very curious!
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02:59:02 <Ysjoelfir> well....
02:59:05 <Ysjoelfir> is that a fail?
02:59:13 <Ysjoelfir> if so, it wasn't spectacular, I want my money back :D
02:59:21 <Ampera> no, I need to take the bot offline to update it
02:59:29 <Ysjoelfir> I thought so ^^
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03:00:13 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 100km to mi
03:00:13 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:00:20 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 100 km to mi
03:00:20 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:00:31 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 1 g to oz
03:00:32 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:00:36 <Ampera> you're useless
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03:01:23 <Ysjoelfir> XD
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03:01:39 <Ampera> I'll be moving this into #eevblogtest so I don't flood the channel
03:01:47 <Ysjoelfir> nooooo!
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03:03:50 <Ampera> you joined the wrong channel, asshole
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03:05:02 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^
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03:41:13 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 1 g to oz
03:41:13 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.035 oz
03:41:25 <Ampera> eevblog convert 1.1 g to oz
03:41:25 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.039 oz
03:41:32 <Ampera> eevblog convert 1.1g to oz
03:41:32 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.039 oz
03:41:36 <Ampera> woo
03:41:41 <Ampera> https://pastebin.com/6hHL6Rvu
03:41:54 <Ampera> if anyone wants the documentation to the new command, there it is, also available in the helpfile
03:42:11 <Ampera> and for the record, I programmed every single possible conversion within that list by hand, every permutation
03:42:25 <K> but did you test it?
03:42:28 <Ampera> I did
03:42:38 <K> ok
03:42:44 <Ampera> if you mean the conversion accuracy, no, and don't use it thinking it is
03:42:52 <Ampera> I am absolutely sure I fucked up somewhere and don't know it
03:43:00 <steve30> EEVBlog convert Ampera to meters
03:43:15 <Ampera> EEVBlog Debug and Version
03:43:16 <EEVBlog> EEVBot Version 2.15, uptime: 139 seconds.
03:43:22 <K> what i had in mind was that the bot follows along the conversation and helpfully converts units without asking
03:43:23 <Ampera> alright at least that didn't crash the bot
03:43:27 <K> but this works too
03:43:48 <steve30> EEVBlog convert 1 meter to ft
03:43:49 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:43:50 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 6'3" to cm
03:43:50 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
03:44:07 <K> EEVBlog convert 3 ft to mm
03:44:08 <EEVBlog> The result is: 914.4 mm
03:44:10 <TheDude> EEVBlog can't into convert
03:44:13 <Ampera> inputs need to be numeric, and 1 meter to ft should work
03:44:25 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 1 meter to ft
03:44:25 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:44:28 <K> pfft
03:44:29 <Ampera> huh
03:44:35 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 6.25 ft to cm
03:44:36 <EEVBlog> The result is: 190.5 cm
03:44:54 <K> EEVBlog converrt 100 mm to inches
03:44:55 <TheDude> alrighty
03:44:59 <K> EEVBlog convert 100 mm to inches
03:44:59 <EEVBlog> The result is: 3.937 inches
03:45:07 <K> EEVBlog convert 1 m to inches
03:45:07 <EEVBlog> The result is: 39.37 inches
03:45:27 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 3.5mm to bee's dicks
03:45:27 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:45:33 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 1 meters to ft
03:45:33 <EEVBlog> The result is: 3.281 ft
03:45:38 <TheDude> disappointing
03:45:40 <Ampera> yeah that was the problem I didn't have a plural meters
03:45:49 <Ampera> er, singular
03:46:09 <Ampera> fixed it in code, I'll replace it soon
03:48:06 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 69F to C
03:48:06 <EEVBlog> The result is: 20.556 c
03:48:27 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 69C to F
03:48:27 <EEVBlog> The result is: 156.2 f
03:48:51 <Ampera> pretty good
03:49:15 * electrohead peeks in
03:49:46 <Ampera> hi electrohead
03:49:49 <Ampera> I updated the bot
03:49:54 <electrohead> I see :D
03:50:24 <electrohead> EEVBlog convert null to null
03:50:29 <electrohead> nope, haha
03:50:50 <K> EEVBlog convert dread to misery
03:51:17 <electrohead> EEVBlog aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
03:51:40 <electrohead> K: with our powers combined, we can potentially break it \o/
03:51:42 <Ampera> you are really pissing off my IRC library though
03:51:52 <Ampera> but the code at the least is not completely unsafe
03:51:55 <Ampera> you shouldn't be able to crash it
03:52:03 <Ampera> maybe if
03:52:04 <electrohead> that's good then :P
03:52:13 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons to mg
03:52:13 <EEVBlog> The result is: 907,200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 mg
03:52:18 <Ampera> woah
03:52:41 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 9E9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 tons to mg
03:52:42 <EEVBlog> I wasn't able to parse that correctly, please see EEVBlog Help for more details
03:52:52 <Ampera> pretty good
03:56:29 <electrohead> EEVBlog help
03:57:38 <K> EEVBlog convert 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999 miles to mm
03:57:38 <EEVBlog> The result is: 16,090,000,000,000,002,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 mm
03:57:43 <K> oh deary me
03:57:48 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 6 gorillion km to inches
03:57:48 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:58:19 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 6 km to inches
03:58:19 <EEVBlog> The result is: 236,220.6 inches
03:58:25 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 6 Mm to inches
03:58:25 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.236 inches
03:58:30 <TheDude> LOSER
03:58:51 <Ampera> yeah it's not gonna convert megameters
03:58:55 <Ampera> all input is case insensitive
03:59:02 <TheDude> learn some fucking units, you worthless automaton
03:59:02 <EEVBlog> And the horse you rode in on, TheDude!
03:59:03 <Ampera> I only did common units
03:59:18 <electrohead> lmao
03:59:22 <TheDude> haha :D
03:59:38 <electrohead> EEVBlog secretsauce
03:59:51 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 10 zetagrams to oz
03:59:51 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
03:59:55 <TheDude> you suck :D
04:00:00 <electrohead> actually, that would be neat, to have commands to do some weird and wacky stuff
04:00:09 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 1 ipint to pint
04:00:09 <EEVBlog> The result is: 1.201 pint
04:00:23 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 10 zettagrams to oz
04:00:23 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
04:00:31 <Ampera> there is a list of available units...
04:00:35 <TheDude> okay, i typo'd the first one, but it mostly sucks
04:00:36 <Ampera> https://pastebin.com/6hHL6Rvu
04:00:55 <coppice> EEVBlog convert 1 pint to urine
04:00:55 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
04:01:04 <TheDude> it can't even do SI units? blasphemy
04:01:10 <Ampera> not all of them
04:01:22 <Ampera> I could have gotten a proper library, but I made the converter myself
04:01:36 <Ampera> which means I had to manually populate every single conversion from any unit I have to any other
04:01:40 <TheDude> EEVBlog convert 2 girls to cups
04:01:40 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
04:01:59 <coppice> 36DD
04:02:16 <TheDude> okay, you seem to be unfamiliar with the internet
04:02:24 <TheDude> google 2 girls 1 cup
04:02:28 <TheDude> viewer discretion is advised
04:02:32 <Ampera> that's my favourite scat movie
04:02:35 <Ampera> I watch it all the time
04:02:43 <TheDude> skappadibbydiboop
04:02:55 <coppice> skappadibbydiboop, 36DD
04:10:14 <hsn> EEVBlog convert 1cm to inch
04:10:15 <EEVBlog> The result is: 0.394 inch
04:10:24 <hsn> eeblog help
04:10:29 <hsn> eevblog version
04:10:38 <hsn> eevblog help
04:10:59 <hsn> eevblog time @ Ysjoelfir
04:11:28 <Ysjoelfir> haha hsn :D I wanted to convince him to implement that^^
04:11:47 <hsn> instead he put more discription at the help
04:11:55 <hsn> EEVBlog Time - Prints Sydney time (where the EEVBlog is)
04:11:56 <hsn> :D
04:12:05 <Ampera> The time command was always there, I had just forgotten to document it
04:12:09 <hsn> eevblog gay count no reset at upgrade !!!! ?
04:13:19 <hsn> EEVBlog convert 1 amperas to columb
04:13:19 <EEVBlog> I can't seem to convert between those two units.
04:13:42 <hsn> u can .. just try ..
04:13:51 <Ampera> hsn, I put in a special new payload just for you
04:13:57 <hsn> eevblog hsn
04:14:02 <hsn> eevblog just4u
04:14:02 <Ampera> keep trying :P
04:14:06 <hsn> eevblog gay
04:14:17 <hsn> eevblog cowsay hi
04:14:22 <hsn> X_X
04:14:25 <Ampera> actually it might not be in /this/ build
04:14:30 <Ampera> I forget if I added it before or after
04:14:40 <hsn> eevblog Version and Debug
04:14:41 <EEVBlog> hsn, Stop playing around with the bot. >:P
04:14:45 <hsn> yes
04:14:47 <hsn> this one
04:14:51 <hsn> right ?
04:15:11 <Ysjoelfir> xD
04:15:16 <hsn> EEVBlog, ' or 1 = 1; --
04:15:43 <hsn> Ampera, u failed
04:15:57 <Ampera> hey you got it
04:15:57 <hsn> EEVBlog, should say : stop playing with me ..
04:16:01 <hsn> not with the bot
04:16:13 <hsn> i now .. read it with ur voice not with his ..
04:17:33 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, can u try .. eevblog Version and Debug ?
04:17:45 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog version and debug
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04:18:05 <fakegay> eevblog Version and Debug
04:18:18 Nick: fakegay is now known as hsn
04:18:20 <hsn> eevblog Version and Debug
04:18:30 <hsn> its no more
04:18:46 <Ysjoelfir> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:18:53 <Ysjoelfir> only Ampera can do it!
04:18:54 <hsn> nah its not this smart
04:19:00 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, untrue
04:19:10 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, and Halcyon
04:19:13 <Ysjoelfir> then what is hsn doing wrong? :D
04:19:17 <Ysjoelfir> ah. well.
04:19:26 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir can't do it either
04:19:33 <Ampera> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:19:34 <EEVBlog> EEVBot Version 2.15, uptime: 2317 seconds.
04:19:44 <hsn> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:19:51 <hsn> where did it go
04:20:00 <hsn> my payload
04:20:05 <hsn> gimmeeee
04:20:07 <Ysjoelfir> only Ampera, Halcyon and IRCStats can do it!
04:20:19 <Ampera> IRCStats cannot do it
04:20:37 Nick: hsn is now known as Amperas
04:20:38 <Ysjoelfir> sure? I never saw it try :P
04:20:42 <Amperas> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:20:56 Nick: Amperas is now known as Ampera\
04:20:59 <Ysjoelfir> lol. my IRC client actually gave you a color very simmilar to amperas color
04:20:59 <Ampera\> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:24:34 Nick: Ampera\ is now known as Ampera\s
04:24:42 <Ampera\s> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:25:34 Nick: Ampera\s is now known as hsn
04:26:16 <hsn> i think this hater Ampera made it to "block it self to talk to me after that payload" ..
04:26:18 <hsn> :D
04:26:55 <hsn> irc nicks doesnt accept any ascii huh ?
04:27:31 <hsn> tried to nick /nick ampera https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero-width_space
04:28:06 Nick: hsn is now known as Ampera\r\n
04:28:12 <Ampera\r\n> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:28:17 <Ampera\r\n> u suck
04:28:19 Nick: Ampera\r\n is now known as hsn
04:30:31 <Ysjoelfir> hehe :D
04:31:02 <Ampera> next thing I know you're gonna attempt SQL injection :P
04:32:57 <hsn> Ampera, i did allready
04:33:09 <hsn> EEVBlog, ' or 1 = 1; --
04:33:15 <Ampera> oh
04:34:27 Nick: hsn is now known as true
04:40:14 Nick: true is now known as Ampera\u0020
04:40:26 <Ampera\u0020> EEVBlog Debug and Version
04:40:54 <Ampera\u0020> this is my best .. i surrender
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04:49:13 <Ysjoelfir> xD
04:49:33 <Ysjoelfir> I hate it when I forget to tick the "quick format" checkbox >_>
04:55:15 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, what's even worse is that on Linux, most mkfs operations are effectively quick formats
04:55:17 <Ampera> except mkfs.ntfs
04:55:48 * Ysjoelfir is slow formatting a 4TB NTFS disk...
05:00:27 <hsn> Ampera, when its legit .. it has to take time ..
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06:50:58 <electrohead> what's the difference between the 'quick' format, and the formal formatting for ntfs?
06:52:46 <steve30> I'm guessing a full format zeros out all the data
06:53:01 <TheDude> nope
06:53:15 <TheDude> full format checks the sector integrity
06:53:22 <steve30> ah
06:54:14 <TheDude> rewriting the whole disk with zeroes would probably take ages
06:57:43 <hsn> +1
07:02:11 <hsn> dd if=/dev/zero TheDude bs=1GB
07:05:05 <TheDude> wouldn't I need to be specified as of?
07:05:36 <TheDude> also do you think nulling just a gig of me would be enough? psh...
07:09:28 <electrohead> ahh, fair enough, thanks
07:09:36 <electrohead> haven't worked with an ntfs partition in ages, heh
07:12:25 <coppice> I don't like that anti-fs system
07:17:06 * electrohead formats everything to ext4
07:23:08 <hsn> TheDude yes .. of=/dev/theDude
07:23:37 <hsn> should i use rand instead?
07:23:57 <TheDude> beats me, I barely know anything about loonix
07:24:24 <TheDude> I literally looked up the dd arguments to figure out what you were implying :D
07:27:01 <hsn> dd command is great
07:27:30 <hsn> i wanted to do yaffs electrohead .. for small embedded
07:28:13 <hsn> for nand flash
07:38:38 <electrohead> you forgot status=progress :P
07:39:12 <electrohead> I always use /dev/urandom for erasing file contents and such, etc
07:39:13 <Ampera> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/electrohead
07:39:21 <electrohead> lol
07:39:33 * electrohead poke hugs Ampera
07:39:42 * Ampera bleed hugs electrohead back
07:39:45 <electrohead> haha
07:40:03 <electrohead> wasn't a hard poke, so no blood should be involved
07:40:26 <electrohead> mm, then again, the shred command works as well
07:40:42 <electrohead> just as well *
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08:50:32 <rust_collector> morning nerds
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09:20:22 <Guest72> hi
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09:20:35 <rust_collector> hey
09:21:12 <miip> didn't know there was a irc channel :)
09:21:45 <rust_collector> I believe there is one more, actually, but I have only seen this one
09:23:07 <miip> true, there is one on freenode
09:23:40 <T3sl4> also afternet
09:26:36 <electrohead> hey miip, welcome to the channel :)
09:27:13 * T3sl4 hugs electrohead
09:27:22 <rust_collector> yes, we like you. you have a very intellectual name, or something
09:27:46 * T3sl4 wonders if miip is a bunny
09:28:21 * electrohead hugs back
09:28:32 <rust_collector> a wild boar on speed. it is one of the old german kids good-night stories grandmas read
09:29:24 <T3sl4> the great bohr
09:33:47 <rust_collector> hmm, I have to read about opamps again, because I really do not remember a thing
09:34:43 <rust_collector> but, I found one glued to a piece of pressed cardboard from ikea, so I guess I have to use that for something now
09:42:49 * steve30 hugs T3sl4
09:43:03 * T3sl4 wraps steve30 in a thick duvet
09:43:06 <steve30> I went past a Tesla yesterday. It was stuck in traffic.
09:43:41 <T3sl4> at least it wasn't idling
09:46:15 <rust_collector> I think they are starting to have issues with their lights. I have seen quite a few with missing lights, or they were pointing in weird directions. But it seems to be mostly on the model 3
09:46:50 <T3sl4> it's a malformed model E, what did you expect
09:47:51 <rust_collector> I expect it to be very heavy and run on lignite... why?
09:47:59 <steve30> mmm, duvet
09:50:33 <rust_collector> right now, that sounds like a good idea
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10:32:40 <Liam> Hi all. Mind if I ask a question?
10:32:50 <steve30> go ahead
10:33:02 <rust_collector> well, maybe wait a little bit?
10:33:07 <electrohead> home o/
10:33:21 <rust_collector> Ok, ask now
10:33:30 <electrohead> hi Liam
10:35:31 <Liam> So I have a guitar pedal here, an old phasor made by DOD. I wired it up, I have voltage, everything is great. But for some reason across the 1N751A diode I get only 0.72V instead of the 5.1V I need. Right up to it I average about 9V and then nothing across the diode. It is fine with in series with a 1K resistor and a 9V, I do get the 5.1V there out
10:35:31 <Liam> of the circuit. Kinda long but here it is. Glad to be here as well.
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10:39:45 <rust_collector> uhm, so... ehm, is the diode backwards?
10:40:10 <Liam> It is not.
10:44:40 <electrohead> https://www.schematicsunlimited.com/d/dod/dod-201-phase-schematic
10:44:44 <electrohead> is that the proper schematic?
10:45:17 <electrohead> I ask because I'm seeing there is the older original version, and then the new revised model
10:46:17 <Liam> It's actually a rare pedal. The founder made me a schematic because I couldn't find the original and he couldn't find his. Here is the schematic: https://imgur.com/a/KvfriCN
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11:15:56 <rust_collector> ok, that should do for today.
11:16:02 <rust_collector> electrohead, ??
11:18:52 <rust_collector> good night
11:32:06 <electrohead> girlfriend stopped down for a bit, sorry, was hanging with her for that time being
11:32:11 <electrohead> rust_collector: ???
11:33:57 <electrohead> "DOD phaser 604"
11:35:51 <electrohead> I'm confused by that
11:37:15 <electrohead> phasor**
11:37:29 <electrohead> I'm seeing a 201, and a 490
11:37:32 <electrohead> but, not a 604
11:38:08 <electrohead> he quit already though, so I guess it's not a huge deal then
12:20:54 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Looks to be no major winner on Blue vs Grey
12:22:28 <Ampera> I am capable of glaring through reality's opaque transparencies, to find the lies hidden withinside.
12:22:46 <Ampera> While some seek truth, I only seek better lies.
12:23:49 * Ampera hugs electrohead
12:26:44 * electrohead hugs back
12:27:08 <electrohead> I'd rather know the harsh truth about something, versus being told something that sounds good
12:27:15 <electrohead> just me, though
12:27:21 <electrohead> howdy and stuff :p
12:27:53 <electrohead> about to go to bed here in a bit, but am here for a few minutes, yet
12:28:57 <Ampera> Truth is candy for the soul
12:29:07 <Ampera> lies are what fill our beds upon which we sleep comfortably
12:29:28 <electrohead> you sleep like shit as well then, huh? (lol)
12:29:39 <Ampera> to be padded with better dietary staples of the mind, rather than a few more rotting reminders of mortality
12:29:48 <Ampera> sleep is only a free trial for death
12:29:56 <electrohead> you ok?
12:30:03 <Ampera> always
12:30:07 <electrohead> :P
12:30:20 <Ampera> however sometimes I am more okay than others
12:30:24 <Ampera> right now I am very very okay
12:30:49 <Ampera> I can even see through time itself
12:31:10 <Ampera> it is as if nothing is true, it is all lies we tell ourself hoping we have it right
12:31:22 <Ampera> but it is just all as meaningless and irrelevant as the rest
12:31:48 <Ampera> It's always fun to look to deep into things. I am fine, just being dumb.
12:32:11 <electrohead> just don't look too deep, you may confuse yourself
12:32:34 <Ampera> That's what they want you to think I think we mean think I do think.
12:32:48 <Ampera> But I am stupider than they are, which they did not anticipate, which makes me smarter than they are.
12:33:01 <Ampera> which they did anticipate, but I did it stupider, which they did not
12:33:25 <Ampera> Logic is like pasta shit out of the asshole of time
12:33:38 <electrohead> I think I am, therefore I am.. I think
12:33:40 <electrohead> :P
12:33:55 <Ampera> thinking is dumb, saying random shit on IRC late at night is the real shit
12:34:20 <electrohead> or, maybe you are tired?
12:34:52 <Ampera> I'm just in that lingering part of after being sick, for me where I just have mucous permanently in my throat I can never cough out
12:35:09 <Ampera> I took something for it, but if that doesn't work I'll resort to diphenhydramine, which will work
12:36:12 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 1 foot to feet
12:36:13 <EEVBlog> The result is: 1 feet
12:36:26 <Ampera> EEVBlog convert 1 feet to foot
12:36:26 <EEVBlog> The result is: 1 foot
12:36:35 <Ampera> damn
12:37:09 <electrohead> that normally happens to me in the morning after I wake up; for how weird this sounds, when I brush my teeth, I shove the toothbrush towards the back of my throat minorly, and I gag a tiny bit, but it helps getting the mucus out
12:37:18 <electrohead> and, just realized how bad that sounds
12:37:33 <Ampera> I don't brush my teeth
12:37:38 <Ampera> which is rather bad
12:37:46 <Ampera> but I've never gotten the momentum to start again
12:37:56 <Ampera> my parents were such assholes about it that I just didn't end up liking it at all
12:38:01 <electrohead> o.O
12:38:03 <Ampera> so their continual badgering sorta backfired
12:39:06 <electrohead> lol
12:39:24 <Ampera> that being said, and at least now more than I have been, I drink tons of city water, which is full of fluorine
12:39:30 <Ampera> so I do have some tooth care
12:39:54 <electrohead> you probably brush your teeth more than once a day :P
12:40:14 <Ampera> no I'm dead serious, I haven't brushed my teeth regularly in years
12:40:26 <Ampera> I don't even think I have a toothbrush nor paste
12:41:16 <Ampera> I used to do it once nightly, then that wasn't enough, then I had to do it morningly and nightly, then I just got sick of that, and when people started being dicks about flossing I just stopped doing it altogether
12:42:20 <Ampera> I also haven't been to the dentist's in ages, mostly because I suffer no ills, but also because the last time I went I forgot the appointment, called them to reschedule, they never picked up, and I sorta forgot to call them back since
12:42:21 <electrohead> I brush mine in the morning, but usually after I wake up from sleeping, to include after taking a nap, etc
12:42:26 <Ampera> then COVID happened and kinda fucked with that even harder
12:43:02 <Ampera> I have one brutal memory when I was 2-4 years old, of my dad shoving me on the floor, sitting on me, and forcing the toothbrush into my mouth to force me to brush my teeth
12:43:04 <electrohead> gah, well, you should probably take care of your teeth then before something bad happens
12:43:14 <electrohead> ouch
12:43:27 <Ampera> I honestly wonder how much of the brushing your teeth really helps them.
12:43:54 <Ampera> I mean fluorine is in everything we drink anyways, and my teeth aren't particularly dirty in general.
12:44:02 <electrohead> I never had a cavity up until the past few years, heh
12:44:09 <Ampera> I know nothing, but I question everything, including if any of that is really necessary
12:44:21 <Ampera> what's dumb is when I brushed regularly my baby teeth fell out half rotten
12:44:31 <Ampera> I haven't brushed in ages and the last times I've been to the dentist I've had perfect teeth
12:44:36 <Ampera> understandably, and likely because I'm young
12:44:38 <Ampera> but still
12:44:43 <electrohead> lol
12:45:30 <Ampera> Everyone is out to make money, and I do wonder if dentists truly are in the business of preventative maintenance.
12:45:40 <Ampera> More sinister and larger scandals have happened.
12:45:53 <electrohead> I feel that way about businessmen/women in general
12:46:07 <electrohead> just looking to put cash in their pockets
12:46:07 <Ampera> It doesn't even need to be an outright fib, people have done far worse in the name of medicine for millenia, with perfect acceptance
12:47:12 <electrohead> like the fucking register/POS salesman, fucker had the balls to tell us at the beer store, to our faces mind you, that his company charges $75 an hour if you don't have whatever warranty
12:47:29 <Ampera> well what do you expect
12:47:31 <electrohead> and that's just general support
12:47:32 <electrohead> =\
12:47:34 <Ampera> he was trying to sell you a Peice Of Shit
12:47:40 <electrohead> lol
12:47:44 <electrohead> yeah, pretty much
12:47:51 * Ampera throws two drumbs, a cymbal, and an electrohead off a cliff
12:48:09 <electrohead> can't even export your own data to external storage without bending over a bit
12:48:11 <Ampera> badum tiss, splat
12:48:34 <Ampera> exporting your own data to external storage is the best euphamism for anal sex I've ever heard
12:49:32 <electrohead> for how much I'd like to build up a POS system from scratch, I won't be around forever, and (they) would have to figure out and learn way more than what they really want to, just to make stuff work, etc
12:49:50 <electrohead> soo.. I'm honestly thinking about just throwing my arms in the air, at this point
12:50:28 <Ampera> oh for the days when stores dealt in cash, and registers were both compact enough, and heavy enough, to knock the fuck out of someone had you thrown it at them.
12:50:47 <Ampera> Never trust a person too heavy to be thrown out of a window.
12:51:04 <electrohead> the register in use right now is a casio TE-2400
12:51:19 <electrohead> it works, but limited in terms of what we would like to do
12:51:36 <Ampera> that made me think something stupid
12:51:41 <Ampera> an RPN cash register would be fucking cool
12:51:57 <electrohead> but.. in comparison to the touch screen 'embedded system'... it works better than the shit that was blown up my ass by the fucking salesman
12:52:17 <electrohead> an RPN cash register?
12:52:24 <electrohead> lol
12:52:39 <Ampera> actually, not that far off from how a lot of mechanical adding machines worked
12:53:04 <Ampera> so, if you go back far enough, to a 100% mechanical register, it might actually be RPN-ish
12:53:19 <electrohead> I actually have a mechanical calculator just hanging out back in my bedroom
12:53:26 <Ampera> I also just realized, register likely refers to the concept of a computer register, in that a cash register is a calculative register, for cash
12:53:41 * Ampera bites the pin out of a curta, throws it at electrohead, and then ducks for cover
12:54:11 <electrohead> curta?
12:54:21 <electrohead> is that the round looking mechanical calculator?
12:54:25 <Ampera> yeah
12:54:32 <Ampera> the thing that looks like a tall hand grenade
12:54:47 <electrohead> heh
12:55:01 <electrohead> would love to get one of those, just to play with
12:55:07 <Ampera> good luck
12:55:14 <Ampera> so would everyone else :P
12:56:54 <electrohead> :P
12:57:52 <Ampera> I hate having facial hair, it's irritating as all fuck, and grows back too damn fast
12:58:27 <electrohead> you have a full beard?
12:58:29 <Ampera> and getting it removed costs as much as a baker's dozen good fuckings
12:58:32 <Ampera> no I do not
12:59:13 <electrohead> I wish I did, but.. my facial hair in total grows in all weird-like
12:59:27 <electrohead> all patchy, part of my face decided that some hair must grow sideways
12:59:36 <electrohead> so, the mustache is good enough for me, nowadays, lol
12:59:39 <Ampera> my facial hair is just big and black, like a fat fucking cock, but thousands of the fuckers
13:00:23 <Ampera> feels like I sneezed a fucking porcupine all over the inside of my face even when it's just a bit of stubble
13:00:40 <electrohead> lmfao
13:00:42 <electrohead> https://i.imgur.com/sHInQK3.jpg
13:00:50 <electrohead> so, there's that mechanical calculator I have
13:00:56 <Ampera> oh nice
13:01:21 <Ampera> AkBKukU did a video on those
13:01:24 <Ampera> not sure if you've seen
13:01:24 <electrohead> currently all of the key caps are removed, as I intend to clean them up eventually
13:01:26 <T3sl4> that looks like a surface Ampera would love his face slammed down on
13:01:42 * Ampera slams T3sl4 into a brick wall of hugs
13:02:05 <T3sl4> all in all you're just another hug of wall
13:03:13 <electrohead> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comptometer
13:03:23 <electrohead> that's what that is labeled as
13:03:41 <Ampera> yeah, AkBKukU did a video on those
13:03:44 <Ampera> a nice one too
13:03:48 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: You can never have too much lube... https://t.co/koyIrGm3r6
13:04:11 <electrohead> got it at an auction for like, 20 dollars I think?
13:05:29 <electrohead> but, I need to get to bed, have to wake up early tomorrow for work
13:05:53 <Ampera> ciao
13:05:54 <electrohead> shall be talking to you guys sometime tomorrow, take care, goodnight o/
13:06:05 * electrohead hugs all the peoples
13:07:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I prefer vertical pulling myself.
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17:12:44 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
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17:17:02 <Ysjoelfir> eh? mass-timeouting?
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18:00:39 <hsn> hello Ysjoelfir
18:00:47 <hsn> EEVBlog Version and Debug
18:01:00 <hsn> gm to u
18:01:04 <Ysjoelfir> moin :)
18:21:15 <K> hello
18:37:03 <Ysjoelfir> hello K
18:39:02 <Ysjoelfir> I sadly didn't manage to conquer your ancestors last evening :( Estonia was faster.
18:39:51 <K> curonians were known be somewhat cray-cray
18:40:23 <Ysjoelfir> lol^^ so it might be better that was? :P
18:40:24 <K> with pillaging swedens coast cities and whatnot
18:43:10 <Halcyon> Meow
18:43:20 <Ysjoelfir> Oh, I managed to conquer some small island which belonged to sweden. or better, that other name... with those letters in it that I can't type on this keyboard :D
18:43:25 <Ysjoelfir> hi Halcyon
18:43:45 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir
18:48:31 <Ysjoelfir> I think it was Gotland, K
18:52:12 <K> yeah, that is quite close
18:59:07 * Ysjoelfir hands Halcyon a carrot
18:59:34 * Ysjoelfir hands K a 500g piece of Kasseler
18:59:44 * Ysjoelfir hands hsn a Wiener
19:03:56 * Halcyon returns the favour and hands Ysjoelfir a pickle
19:04:03 <K> umm, that will do, Ysjoelfir
19:04:29 <Halcyon> Oh Ysjoelfir, earlier this evening when I was at the store, they had those really long curled up pork sausages
19:04:29 <Ysjoelfir> woah, I love pickles! Is is a sweet one?
19:04:33 <Halcyon> I was almost going to buy one
19:04:38 <Ysjoelfir> but?
19:04:42 <Halcyon> It's kind of sweet, it's a butter pickle
19:04:46 <Halcyon> Sorry bread and butter
19:05:00 <Halcyon> I decided to buy steak instead. I was in a steaky kind of mood
19:05:00 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds ok :)
19:05:10 <Ysjoelfir> well, steak is also not bad :P
19:05:18 <Halcyon> Have you had bread and butter pickles before?
19:05:53 <Halcyon> https://www.woolworths.com.au/shop/recipedetail/6325/bread-butter-cucumber-pickles
19:06:15 <Ysjoelfir> I assumed that "Bread and Butter" means "standard" or "regular", like nothing special :D At least thats what we say in germany.
19:06:40 <Halcyon> Well they are standard but I think with a few more ingredients. They taste rather sweet.
19:06:56 <Halcyon> Kind of similar to the pickles Mcdonalds use, but better.
19:07:06 <Ysjoelfir> I love sweet pickles. I also very much like garlic pickles.
19:07:17 <Ysjoelfir> I especially like... wait.
19:07:46 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, u hand me a frankfurt ?
19:08:07 <Ysjoelfir> that kind of pickle: https://www.amazon.de/Hengstenberg-4356-12-Honiggurken-215-g/dp/B006LJ80EW
19:08:29 <Halcyon> Interesting
19:08:36 <hsn> morning Halcyon
19:08:36 <Halcyon> Never had those before
19:08:38 <Ysjoelfir> its only the flesh of a cucumber, not the core/seeds and also no peel. its brined in a very sweet honey brine
19:08:41 <Halcyon> Hi hsn
19:08:42 <hsn> eevblog time
19:08:42 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 19:08 Sydney time.
19:08:42 <Ysjoelfir> *pickled
19:08:49 <hsn> after noon i mean
19:08:53 <Ysjoelfir> hsn - yes, basically a frankfurter :P
19:09:37 <hsn> i handle u frank farter then :)
19:09:51 <hsn> u live with him in same room
19:09:59 <Ysjoelfir> lol
19:11:47 <Ysjoelfir> I somehow very much enjoy this tune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C55AnGYnoEA
19:12:12 <Ysjoelfir> it reminds me of the kind of music I enjoyed in my childhood
19:12:34 <Halcyon> Very odd people
19:12:56 <Ysjoelfir> thats true. found that in my "suggestions" playlist from amazon music
19:13:23 <Halcyon> It is kind of catchy
19:13:46 <Ysjoelfir> right? :D
19:14:13 <Halcyon> All I can think about now is "Verdachtig"
19:14:21 <Ysjoelfir> hahaha
19:14:59 <hsn> its nice but
19:15:30 * Halcyon sings: Bla bla bla bla bla bla... Verdachtig
19:15:30 <hsn> im listening to this : https://soundcloud.com/mehmet-kars/sefirin-kizi-dizisi-jenerik-muzigienst
19:15:31 <Halcyon> Hahaha
19:15:41 <hsn> as my code doesnt work
19:15:48 <hsn> and i need to feel sad
19:15:52 <Halcyon> Oh also, I have decided today, I am going to start investing in shares
19:17:33 <Ysjoelfir> I suggest buying altium
19:17:41 <Ysjoelfir> well, altium shares. not the whole company
19:18:17 <Ysjoelfir> the few I have developed pretty nice^^
19:18:37 <hsn> wait what happened
19:18:40 <hsn> i got disconnected
19:18:54 <Halcyon> Yeh maybe, I have a company in-mind which is about to list next month on the Australian Stock Exchange
19:19:45 <Halcyon> <hsn> and i need to feel sad
19:19:45 <Halcyon> <Halcyon> Oh also, I have decided today, I am going to start investing in shares
19:19:45 <Halcyon> <Ysjoelfir> I suggest buying altium
19:19:45 <Halcyon> <Ysjoelfir> well, altium shares. not the whole company
19:19:45 <Halcyon> <Ysjoelfir> the few I have developed pretty nice^^
19:19:46 <Halcyon> <hsn> wait what happened
19:19:48 <Halcyon> <hsn> i got disconnected
19:19:49 <Ysjoelfir> oh, you should tell everyone! :D and if not everyone, at least me.
19:20:05 <Halcyon> Aussie Broadband
19:20:12 <Halcyon> ASX code ABB
19:21:34 <hsn> so u didnt see me disconnecting ?
19:21:41 <Halcyon> Nope
19:21:48 <hsn> cool
19:21:52 <hsn> my vps is running then
19:21:53 <Halcyon> If it's only a brief interruption, it's not enough to cause a ping timeout
19:22:00 <hsn> ah
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19:27:15 <Ysjoelfir> I would have thought ABB is... well, ABB :D
19:28:44 Quit: moister ([email protected]) Quit: Leaving
19:28:53 <hsn> Halcyon, u good in network right ?
19:29:14 <hsn> how do i check (100.100.100.x) ipv4 .. what is it exactly . ?
19:30:08 <hsn> wiki says Shared address space[5] for communications between a service provider and its subscribers when using a carrier-grade NAT.
19:31:53 <hsn> is it like hidden and they do what they want with all the range
19:31:59 <hsn> or there is RFC for that
19:32:46 <Halcyon> I think it starts at 100.64.0.0
19:32:56 <Halcyon> It's used for CG-NAT
19:33:27 <Halcyon> Basically a private IP address that carriers use to share 1 IP between many users.
19:34:15 <Halcyon> A lot of ISPs and Cellular networks now use Carrier Grade NAT, instead of giving customers their own public IPv4 address
19:34:23 <Halcyon> (Because there isn't enough to go around)
19:41:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Today's misc dumpster options. https://t.co/rfYCnE5u8n
19:48:27 <hsn> so there are user computers within that range ?
19:48:38 <hsn> isp people give it users ?
19:48:55 <hsn> no it cant be .. routing wont happen then .. hmmm
19:49:55 <hsn> ok i need to understand CGN
19:51:27 <Ysjoelfir> I prefer CGI
19:51:54 <rust_collector> SBI is always bestest
19:52:03 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
19:52:19 <hsn> SBI =
19:52:19 <hsn> State Bank of India
19:52:21 <rust_collector> If I were you, I would buy shares there
19:52:24 <Ysjoelfir> rusty, yesterday I conquered Gotland. Its now part of Novgorod.
19:52:31 <rust_collector> heh
19:53:06 <rust_collector> hsn, SBI is my old company. it made stuff, and such
19:53:14 <Ysjoelfir> ew, stuff!
19:53:34 <hsn> sex based instruments ?
19:54:18 <rust_collector> things the customers wanted. I do not think I did anything like that no
19:54:52 <hsn> customers want to have sex?
19:55:06 <rust_collector> otoh, I also do not think I ever had a customer
19:55:15 <rust_collector> most of them do
19:55:25 <hsn> where is sbi company
19:55:56 <rust_collector> it is sleeping
19:56:09 <hsn> google only know about SBI = bank of india
19:56:19 <rust_collector> no one wants that
19:58:43 <hsn> i think google has bug
19:58:50 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/c3jbg6.jpg
19:59:09 <hsn> what portion of (-) dont u understand
20:01:57 <hsn> i hate when my boss in a meeting with others and he want to be "mr know it all" in front of the owner
20:02:29 <hsn> he become loud
20:03:38 <rust_collector> maybe he read aramcos article on body language
20:04:09 <rust_collector> or maybe it was that other company
20:09:18 <rust_collector> I wonder if I will still remember how to mess up which what does what on this thing https://imgur.com/a/tYqTqOW
20:20:30 <hsn> nothing more missed up than code that doesnt work
20:21:14 <hsn> rust_collector, this photo took 1min to load !
20:21:47 <hsn> but the important question
20:21:54 <hsn> that IC is on note paper or a human skin
20:23:40 <rust_collector> does being one thing mean it can not be the other thing?
20:35:41 <hsn> not always
20:36:22 <hsn> but i dont like ur question ... it remind me shrodenger cat and the madness of quantum physic concept which my mind dont like to accept
20:36:40 * hsn cats at T3sl4
20:36:55 <hsn> this book looks intresting https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08JHSF6GT
20:37:12 <hsn> to hack Ampera's bot
20:37:28 <K> ruby is offensive, that much is true
20:41:05 <rust_collector> if you wait long enough, you can be pretty sure the cat is dead. who cares if you see it or not
20:42:02 <K> if you wait long enough, someone will steal the box
20:42:32 <rust_collector> yeah, some people probably have a thing for the dead cat smell
20:50:29 <hsn> K, if u dont wait long enough .. someone probably allready stole it on multiverse
20:53:26 <Halcyon> hsn: No, Your WAN port might be in that range, but computers/devices on the LAN shouldn't be
20:54:04 <Halcyon> Treat a CG-NAT address just like any other WAN IP, except it's not accessible via the public internet
20:55:02 <hsn> okay sir
20:55:07 <hsn> understood
20:55:09 <hsn> thx
20:55:17 <Halcyon> I hope I could help
20:55:59 <rust_collector> have fun. I have to go do shtuff
20:56:43 <Halcyon> Cya Rusticle
21:03:51 <Halcyon> Hey Ysjoelfir, it's the giant cow again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIphw6SsKC8
21:04:16 <Halcyon> Holy fuck it's huge
21:10:53 Quit: MRiddickW ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
21:11:57 <Ysjoelfir> woah!
21:12:09 * Ysjoelfir enjoys his breadroll with minced cow
21:12:25 * Ysjoelfir lsitens to the Verdächtig song meanwhile
21:12:28 <K> it could have been so much bigger!
21:13:22 <Ysjoelfir> before I ate it? maybe?
21:14:46 <electrohead> o/
21:28:40 <Ysjoelfir> hey mr head
21:51:57 <steve30> hi
21:52:57 <Ysjoelfir> Hi mr. Steve
21:58:43 <hsn> fire alarm on
21:58:50 <Ysjoelfir> cool!
22:24:34 <hsn> its little funny
22:24:42 <hsn> it triggers maybe twice a month ..
22:24:49 <hsn> just like my pc beeps
22:25:04 <hsn> seems like everything in the company need attention
22:25:10 <hsn> including humans
22:25:18 <hsn> :'(
22:25:26 <Ysjoelfir> awwww
22:25:29 * Ysjoelfir hugs hsn
22:25:33 <hsn> :D
22:25:46 <hsn> thanks .. i just like to act poor hsn
22:25:50 <hsn> drama guy
22:26:07 <Ysjoelfir> you just need a hug from time to time :)
22:27:05 <coppice> frequent fire alarms are an occupational hazard for those working on the hottest technology
22:27:45 <hsn> coppice, we have Industry 4.0 team
22:28:00 <hsn> they do arduinos in factory :D
22:28:12 <hsn> not the good kind ..
22:28:24 <hsn> maybe they trigger this
22:28:26 <hsn> :D
22:28:28 <coppice> Industry 4.0 is such a BS term
22:28:41 <hsn> i know
22:28:43 <electrohead> I just got an ebay seller to take down a listing, because I called him out for deceitful information on the listing :D
22:28:49 <electrohead> feels good to do that
22:28:50 <electrohead> heh
22:28:51 <hsn> btw its manual type factory
22:29:09 <electrohead> g'morning, btw
22:29:15 <hsn> and the ERP is the most bulsshit erp u will ever face
22:29:27 <hsn> so its funny company ..
22:29:33 <hsn> gm mr.head
22:29:42 <hsn> eevblog time at electrohead
22:29:48 <hsn> eevblog time
22:29:49 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 22:29 Sydney time.
22:29:51 <coppice> ERP is a really sad business
22:30:27 <hsn> ERP ... implementers = scammers in my mind
22:30:40 <coppice> There should be an ERP platform called Sheep Skin, since its all about fleecing people
22:31:19 <coppice> although the name SAP was really brilliant
22:31:58 <hsn> Sex And Porn ?
22:44:14 <clarkos> What does sap even stand for?
22:44:59 <Ysjoelfir> shitty Asshole Programm
22:45:04 <coppice> it stands for fleecing customers
22:45:39 <coppice> it doesn't really stand for anything. Its just the word that best describes their customers
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23:03:02 <Guest|83736> Found some absolute BS online https://greentechfuelsaver.com/how-it-works/
23:03:28 <Guest|83736> drop-in device claims to break up hydrocarbon molecules to get rid of emissions
23:03:38 <Guest|83736> also creates negative ios around the car
23:03:43 <Guest|83736> love this shit
23:04:05 <Ampera> By treating the fuel molecule and bost the air quality, GREENTECH helps the engine to burn the fuel more completely
23:04:19 <Ysjoelfir> Isn't ios always negative?
23:04:35 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, yeah it's really a pain to deal with
23:04:38 <Ampera> especially if you're a developer
23:05:17 <Ysjoelfir> see? :P
23:05:29 <Ysjoelfir> aso, hello unknown guest person.
23:05:40 <Ysjoelfir> I loved your introduction :D
23:06:08 <Ampera> As humble IRC gremlins we're fans of bullshit.
23:06:40 <electrohead> Not all of us, but it's still fun to laugh from time to time
23:07:18 * Ampera bashes electrohead around with a keyboard
23:07:23 <Guest|83736> > Additionally, no part of the Greentech fuel saver is consumed in the process, nor does it release any chemicals into the fuel, so there is no residue or material that can enter your fuel system.
23:07:43 <Guest|83736> so it does nothing huh
23:08:01 <Guest|83736> its rare that that they even admitt that ^^
23:08:36 <K> thoughts and prayers
23:08:39 <Ampera> The best way to save fuel is to simply never brake
23:08:54 <Ampera> Every time you apply the brake, you waste energy
23:09:09 <Ampera> so simply don't stop at red lights, don't yield to pedestrians, and don't slow down for small animals.
23:09:39 <Ysjoelfir> uh, we'Re bashing electrohead? I want to join!
23:09:46 * Ysjoelfir rubs electrohead with a tortoise
23:10:25 * electrohead fights back with force
23:10:28 <electrohead> :P
23:12:24 * Ampera http://bash.org/?top's electrohead over the head with some old jokes
23:16:38 <electrohead> is that site still active?
23:17:27 <Ampera> I don't believe so, sadly.
23:17:38 <Ampera> however I enjoy reading the top 1-200 every so often as there's so many fucking gems in it
23:20:42 <electrohead> yeah it's definitely a blast from the past, for sure
23:29:21 <electrohead> so, I just bought the ubertooth one
23:29:34 <electrohead> great, something else to play with, now
23:29:49 <electrohead> been in my watch list for some time
23:30:33 <NeroTHz> we have a dillema in reviewing a paper that is supposed to be double-blind
23:30:53 <NeroTHz> the thing is that double-blind doesn´t work if the publisher doesn´t force a standard format for graphs
23:31:20 <NeroTHz> we can recognise the most important and ´high ranking´ research groups in our field by the formating of their figures
23:31:45 <NeroTHz> so no review is ever really double-blind --- we know whos group we are reviewing a paper of
23:32:05 <Ampera> That's hilarious.
23:32:24 <NeroTHz> now a author of a group (which we figured out right away who it was) made an error and forgot to remove a reference that tells us who the author is
23:32:31 <NeroTHz> (which confirmed what we already thought)
23:32:59 <NeroTHz> so technically speaking, we need to reject this now regardless, even though it doesn´t really matter, because we already knew whos paper we were reveiwing in the first place
23:33:15 <NeroTHz> and we are debating if we should or just turn a blind eye
23:33:22 <Ampera> Why wouldn't you?
23:33:31 <NeroTHz> why wouldn´t we reject or not reject?
23:33:38 <Ampera> None of that is your fault, it'd be your ethical responsibility to reject it.
23:34:31 <NeroTHz> you could argue that ethically it´s silly to reject, since it doesn´t really change us reviewing (heck the guy reading the paper only realized when he got to the final comparison table). But if we reject it, a perfectly good paper and progress in the field could be held back
23:34:47 <NeroTHz> so I don´t think it´s easy to just say ´we have to reject cause ethics´
23:36:57 <Ampera> Well what's the point of requesting a blind review if it'll never actually be blind?
23:37:14 <NeroTHz> yeah, but it is already not blind, regardless of this mistake
23:37:53 <NeroTHz> like I get what you are saying and I´m not saying we shouldn´t reject. Just that I need to think about it becuase I find it harder to decide that just go ¨hah idiot - REJECT¨
23:39:24 <Ampera> I'd say if ordinary procedure and ethics doesn't produce a favorable decision, understand the bigger picture.
23:39:48 <Ampera> What are the consequences of breaking the requirement of blind review, and what is the magnitude of the effects bias could have on the papers
23:41:00 <Ampera> If it's a paper not regarding specifically medical concepts, to where the nature of drugs and lives could be at stake, then the consequences of letting that one slide, and bias turning out to have an impact, are not as severe.
23:41:12 <Ampera> Or rather, the potential consequences.
23:51:23 <hsn> gaycount++;
23:52:13 <electrohead> lol
23:53:35 <electrohead> just to throw this out there - if anyone decides to play with the ubertooth one as well, remember this commit - https://github.com/greatscottgadgets/ubertooth/pull/409/commits/abc1d87631c71fb5bf3be4b81327c66292d852ca
23:53:44 <hsn> whats this bash.org web?
23:54:30 <hsn> random nerds put offensive msgs ?
23:54:36 <hsn> kind of web?
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