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49:56 <Guest|57276> Anyone know the name of the main chip on the Extech EX330? In pictures and videos it looks like a steadichips product. The 20 or so meters I'm using this semester in class look like they have a bare die wirebonded and potted to the board. If there is a datasheet floating around on the chp, that would be even better than a name (I doubt there is as
49:57 <Guest|57276> I'm guessing this is not a commercially available chip). Thanks for any help.
58:18 <K> Guest|57276: i think you wil have better luck asking on the forum
58:41 <Guest|57276> Thanks, I'll try the forum
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10:32 <K> another satisfied customer!
10:41 <Ampera> hi K how are you doing
11:05 <K> im doing ok
11:12 <K> how are you doing
11:25 <Ampera> my new headphones are really nice
11:28 <Ampera> I am enjoying them immensely
11:51 <K> fwiw the idiom of "how are you doing" is quite foreign for us, thieving eastern-europeans
12:22 <Ampera> K, here it's kinda like saying hi, but more
12:31 <K> what headphones are those? sony-sometgings?
12:38 <Ampera> Sennheisers
12:44 <K> yes, i know, but still, takes some processing
12:45 <Ampera> RS 175's
13:43 <K> can they be used with wire?
13:47 <Ampera> Nope
14:04 <K> weak.
14:05 <Ampera> That being said, they are really really reliable as far as wireless tech goes, the batteries are even normal AAA's
14:20 <Ampera> I already have a pair of passives, my previous ones are bluetooth headphones that have a passive override
14:26 <K> ah.
14:29 <Ampera> this is explicitly intended for my desktop PC and pretty much nothing else
15:04 <K> i'm spoiled with my open-back beyers, all closed backs sound strange to me
16:40 <Ampera> I don't like the idea of open backs because I want my isolation
16:50 <Ampera> I don't mind hanging an ear out if I need to listen to two things at once
22:21 <K> to each his own eh
22:41 <Ampera> aye
10:01 <electrohead> o/
52:53 <Ampera> hi electrohead how are you
12:58 <electrohead> good, just getting ready for work, going in late today so I can help tomorrow with palletes of product coming in, yay
29:54 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
29:59 * Ysjoelfir collapses into the channel
30:02 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir with a bratwurst
30:13 <Ysjoelfir> woah!
30:15 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera's bratwurst
30:20 <Ampera> no
30:21 <Ampera> stop
30:24 * Ysjoelfir kind of lives to eat the bratwurst
30:30 <Ampera> same
30:51 <Ampera> I have around 3-4 pounds of it in my freezer
31:01 * T3sl4 licks Ampera's bratwurst
31:06 * T3sl4 puts Ampera's bratwurst in his mouth
31:08 * T3sl4 uses teeth
31:14 <Ampera> please no
33:00 <Ysjoelfir> SWMBO doubts that your bratwurst is genuine
33:14 <Ampera> what do you mean by genuine
33:21 <Ampera> it was bought in a german store
33:30 <Ysjoelfir> let me ask
34:09 <Ysjoelfir> she says "ok, then its probably genuine
34:11 <Ysjoelfir> "
34:22 <Ampera> I'm not sure if I've ever had a non-genuine bratwurst
34:48 <Ysjoelfir> she compares it to mac and cheese that is sold here. she claims that its not the real thing if you know the stuff from the states
34:56 <Ampera> and while said german store is Aldi so not necessarily required to adhere to anything, if I wanted really nice german bratwurst I could go to a butcher in albany that's run by germans and carries a variety of german-esque meats
34:58 <Ampera> and even some imports
35:14 <Ampera> well yeah, most food on german shelves is not made out of plastic
35:16 <Ysjoelfir> also I am supposed to tell you that you only get texmex stuff if you go out to eat mexican here
35:37 <Ampera> I mean texmex isn't exactly rocket science, I imagine it can be done anywhere
35:54 <Ysjoelfir> but they claim its "genuine mexican food" here
35:54 <Ampera> unless tortillas are hard to come by there
36:11 <hsn> hell is going to burn us all
36:20 <Ampera> well it's not made in mexico, so it's not really mexican no matter how genuine they say it is
36:30 <Ampera> it's just mexican style food made potentially by mexicans
37:24 <T3sl4> it's mexican, not mexican't
37:34 <hsn> haaah
37:38 <Ysjoelfir> tis not even mexican style :D its texmex. (she emphasises that)
38:12 <Ampera> everyone calls texmex mexican, not even texans give enough of a shit
38:17 <hsn> its a mix color paint can .. hence mix can
39:02 <hsn> https://snipboard.io/1TnaQV.jpg this crap is no good
39:15 <Ysjoelfir> she sais "I do. and I'm from texas!" :D
39:42 <Ysjoelfir> didn't you adapt my color theme hsn?^^
39:53 <Ampera> she's been infected by the german habit of caring too much about things
39:55 <hsn> oh .. yeah .. thats on my work pc
40:05 <hsn> this is the new altium
40:20 <Ysjoelfir> you rich bastard :D
40:41 * steve30 curls up on Ysjoelfir's lap
40:50 <hsn> :) i just downloaded it bcz i fed up with kicad
40:54 <hsn> cracked ..
40:55 * Ysjoelfir pets the steve30
41:01 <Ysjoelfir> :O hsn! shame on you
41:09 <Ysjoelfir> you did great :)
41:10 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, well i needed to bend ..
41:23 <Ysjoelfir> no power to the establishment^^
41:26 <hsn> and .. flex ridged .. didnt know how to play with layers .
42:39 <hsn> like so : https://snipboard.io/92Uimy.jpg
42:50 <T3sl4> ridged for her pleasure?
43:07 * Ampera pleasures T3sl4's ridges
43:12 <hsn> :D T3sl4 .. what mode are u on
44:08 <T3sl4> owo
44:21 <T3sl4> i'm ala mode
45:40 <hsn> almond ?
45:42 <Ampera> I should make enchiladas again, it's been too long since I've had nice chicken enchiladas
45:51 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder if I should get a drone. just for fun
46:01 <hsn> its forbidden
46:25 <Ysjoelfir> I don't live in forbidistan. only in small notallowistan
46:44 <hsn> can u make a drone that flies to bahrain ?
46:46 <Ampera> that's what's good about the US
46:56 <Ampera> it's do whatever the fuck you want so long as it's christian
47:25 <T3sl4> it's bean too long for me as well
47:30 * T3sl4 refries Ampera's beans
47:32 <Ysjoelfir> no power to the *insert random non christian religion*!
47:33 <hsn> Ysjoelfir, we establish an international drone shipping company
50:01 <hsn> T3sl4, and Ysjoelfir .. is there a way to tell altium that this is circle not square boundary ? https://snipboard.io/gMYACN.jpg
50:28 <T3sl4> what
50:57 <hsn> it gives me collision .. even if i set up the component clearance : https://snipboard.io/xsj5v6.jpg
51:02 <Ysjoelfir> you mean that the white "hitbox" follows the contour?
51:33 <hsn> the white box prevent me to place it near other components
51:41 <T3sl4> component clearance is to other components
52:50 <T3sl4> and components without 3d data use the rectangular outline for collision
53:20 <hsn> i fliped the logic to second :: https://snipboard.io/5njJRM.jpg
53:48 <hsn> ah .. but there is no 3d .. i should put dummy 3d ? .. its just via for bogoo pin
54:00 <hsn> i call it TP -> test point ..
54:13 <T3sl4> yes
54:19 <hsn> ok
54:20 <T3sl4> or set clearance negative
54:44 <hsn> better i put cylindrical 3d just like the green line
56:21 <T3sl4> can set it transparent so it's not ugly
56:29 <T3sl4> not sure if it still counts if it's set to 0% alpha
58:59 <hsn> hmm
00:28 <hsn> yes it counts
00:50 <hsn> also when 0% it get hidden in 2d which is great
13:27 <T3sl4> brr, i need a tea
15:34 <hsn> brr, i need apex legends
53:28 * Ysjoelfir has poutine
58:23 * T3sl4 has chai tea
37:06 <hsn> https://shop.hodinkee.com/products/1969-rolex-paul-newman-daytona-reference-6241?variant=19801378372
37:11 <hsn> the fck?
37:39 <hsn> T3sl4, chai in arabic is tea
38:12 <T3sl4> yeah, every language calls their style of tea "tea"
52:49 <rust_collector> mOrNiNg!?
53:26 * T3sl4 nitrides rust_collector
53:29 <Ampera> MORNING RUST COLLECTOR SIR
53:31 <Ampera> HOW ARE YOU DOING
53:57 <rust_collector> ME HUNGRY!!!
54:09 <rust_collector> I am not doing
54:47 * T3sl4 sprays rust_collector with a conspicuous quantity of beans
55:13 <rust_collector> mmhf, that is a start
06:37 <DHess_US> https://youtu.be/IKqWkksewDg?t=66
09:54 <rust_collector> nice, that is much more time efficient than most of his videos
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16:52 * Ysjoelfir hands rust_collector some poutine
17:04 <rust_collector> it is 22:16 here, and the wife is halfway done making dinner. Ok, that is sort of normal in this house, but...
17:33 <Ysjoelfir> you should tell mrs. wife to hurry up, you are hungry :P
17:39 <rust_collector> hey! much tarzan, that sounds üppr
19:54 <rust_collector> one day, I want to go annoy moms friends who live in canadia. Almost just to try poutine and maybe that ketchup flavoured potato chip stuff
20:48 <Ysjoelfir> poutine is nice :) you should make it. its not difficult :P
21:12 <rust_collector> but I want the kanadian one
22:03 <rust_collector> what cheese stuff do you use?
26:07 <Ysjoelfir> just regular mozzarella
27:45 <rust_collector> YOU CAN NOT USE THAT !!!! now you are banned from canadistan
29:06 <rust_collector> ok, wife made taco-soup with lasagna pasta sheets, that works
33:49 <Ysjoelfir> oh no! but I never wanted to canadistan yet! how can i not go there now? :S
34:55 <rust_collector> you never wanted to see that?
35:30 <rust_collector> not even winterpeg in february?
37:29 <Ysjoelfir> well, I kind of would like to. but meh, its to far and to expensive
39:47 <rust_collector> nah, a cheap flight to new york, then 3 days in a minibus?
40:44 <rust_collector> maybe with a polka band
42:48 <Ysjoelfir> "cheap" :D like 700€ per person, one way?
43:14 <rust_collector> it saves you a loooong walk
43:39 <rust_collector> But I don't know. you used to get cheap flights.
46:24 <Ysjoelfir> when swmbo had to go there for her gramps funeral it was that expensive :X
46:43 <rust_collector> that is because she had to
46:50 <Ysjoelfir> probably
47:24 <Ysjoelfir> I'm watching a watchmaker restoring an old soviet watch. thats oddly satisfying
47:54 <rust_collector> so, ie cleaning it? or is anything broken?
48:12 <Ysjoelfir> he is completely disassembling it
48:36 <Ysjoelfir> the main spring seems to be broken, he can wind it and nothing happenes
48:51 <rust_collector> ok, that is interesting
49:22 <Ysjoelfir> the video before he fixed an completely beat up one from switzerland. he even filed down the old chrome and replated it
49:30 <rust_collector> but I think I will stay at the auto transmission level.
49:37 <Ysjoelfir> xD
50:13 <rust_collector> most people think they are black magic, which is great for me
50:18 <Ysjoelfir> speaking of which - the volvo got its tranny oil changed. that thing is shifting soooo insanely smooth, incredible
50:28 <rust_collector> because I have bags of black magic for a refill
50:34 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D
53:19 <Ysjoelfir> but I think I'll be in bed after this video. swmbo is tired, I'm tired, sounds like a good plan
53:54 <rust_collector> I am thinking about getting up early tomorrow, to do stuff. that is a good plan. but it will probably not happen
54:22 <Ysjoelfir> ew, early stuff?
54:58 <rust_collector> I start at 13.30, but if I want to do anything before that, it does get a bit early-ish
55:12 <hsn> if u sleep early u can wake up early
55:13 <Ysjoelfir> well, that sounds ok :P
56:14 <rust_collector> I mean. the thing I need to do is cutting a part of my car out, and I sort of need something in that hole before going to work.
56:37 <Ysjoelfir> nah. use some duct tape. noone will notice
56:58 <rust_collector> I am not worried about that. I just hope it does not fold in half
57:04 <Ysjoelfir> lol
57:48 <Ysjoelfir> then I hope for the best for you :P and I'll be in bed now. have a super awesome night everyone
57:59 <rust_collector> well, say hi to swymo, good natta
59:14 <Ysjoelfir> same to you :)
18:43 * electrohead peeks in
19:46 <rust_collector> hmmm, older lacie external drive....
20:39 <rust_collector> it turns out they work much better if you put the switch in the I position, and not the O position
21:01 <electrohead> lol
21:08 <electrohead> hey rust_collector
21:17 <rust_collector> hi.....you
21:50 <rust_collector> how are things earlier today?
22:42 <electrohead> earlier? umm, doing alright haha
22:59 <rust_collector> nothing too exciting? ok
23:11 <rust_collector> it was not very interesting here either.
23:18 <electrohead> nah, and right now just manning the beer store
23:24 <electrohead> slow day today (again)
24:31 <rust_collector> well, radio said that the concentration camp in greece burnt down. I guess I won't send firecrackers to the next place. oh well
24:47 <rust_collector> I thought they would have a bit of fun, but
34:54 <MrMobodies> Android phone: A few numbers from reporting the DSLSTATS on an Email alert: "Upstrem FEC/Min rose to" 29494.00 -< Hyperlinked text. Touch it and next thing I know it is dialing it as a number. What where they thinking?
35:33 <electrohead> I touched mine last night, but it never called anybody, lol
35:37 <electrohead> sorry, bad joke :P
35:56 <MrMobodies> bad or not it can be true
36:13 <rust_collector> it probably is
36:36 <MrMobodies> sometimes the touch tried to think for me enough to loose my temper
37:16 <rust_collector> I wonder if I have the wrong skin, so most of the time the touch stuff does nothing
37:21 <MrMobodies> more attention is spent on the animations and suggestions (that I can't turn off) does it for me.
38:01 <MrMobodies> I setup the email and spent an hour finding why it wouldn't receive
38:11 <MrMobodies> deleted and started over and it worked
38:14 <rust_collector> yes. I would like a phone with a very plain and basic os.
38:33 <rust_collector> no fancy anythings
38:43 <MrMobodies> I though the blackberry from last decade was quite mininal
38:54 <MrMobodies> I don't mind a few things here and there
39:37 <MrMobodies> I found it a bit flashy sometimes but not to the extent of this Samsung J5
39:56 <MrMobodies> it was given to me and I made some alterations
40:11 <MrMobodies> so there is some sanity for my use
45:54 <rust_collector> I am thinking about buying a pi4. just to use those cases I have for something. I really should have smashed them, so it would not be a thing
47:44 <electrohead> I miss the older flip phones, they were pretty nice
47:52 <electrohead> with actual fucking hardware buttons
54:44 <coppice> you just want to feel like James T Kirk
02:48 <MrMobodies> a phone that doesn't use the phrases "smart this... smart that..." with the touch gestures
03:17 <MrMobodies> I think there was feature like this on the J5 and it took me a while to find it and switch if off
03:22 <MrMobodies> some years ago
03:46 <MrMobodies> but it wasn't called gesture
04:57 <MrMobodies> just looking and I forgot and can't find what it is called
06:46 <MrMobodies> found it, "magnification gestures" my mistake... but it still does it on the mobile Chrome that I don't use much. Firefox doesn't do it on there but all these suggestions show up that I can't turn off.
07:16 <MrMobodies> and the Samsung internet browser does the same and some other auto annoying stuff
07:38 <MrMobodies> that's why I just use it for trivial things
07:50 <MrMobodies> for once in a whike
09:00 <MrMobodies> I installed Adblock for firefox on there, used my hosted filter list, it works but it seems very slow with it turned on.
10:34 <MrMobodies> MailEnabled has this loading counter thing that keeps on appearing but the email program now works properly.
11:44 <MrMobodies> speaking of which, does anybody use Ebay on their mobile? and for those that do how do you find it?
33:16 <rust_collector> no. if I want to buy something then wait 3-4-5 weeks to get it, I can go home and use a real computer
50:49 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/CE7GsGZJq8Z/?igshid=nmuv8git4fx8
50:55 <hsn> 2 am mood
52:31 <rust_collector> that is mean
53:36 <MrMobodies> it sounds like a good joke except for the mechanic.
54:58 <electrohead> I never use my mobile phone for browsing the internet, nor buying anything on ebay
55:39 <electrohead> could never do it, hah
55:56 <MrMobodies> I don't think I could tolerate it anymore due to the animations and the lack of adblock support to handle these things.
56:13 <hsn> i use aliexpress and amazon
56:16 <electrohead> always needed a physical keyboard and a large screen, plus adblock/ublock, etc
56:17 <MrMobodies> but nice to see something done for firefox but then that has annoyances there too
56:33 <rust_collector> I think that is the least of my problem with doing anything on a little phone screen, with no keyboard
57:25 <MrMobodies> with a keyboard it is easy, no software guessing
58:05 * electrohead installs pentadactyl for rust_collector and MrMobodies
58:08 <electrohead> :P
58:18 <electrohead> vim like keybindings are the best for browsing xD
58:28 <electrohead> I'll walk myself out of the chat room haha
58:54 <rust_collector> now I am thinking about small metal buckets with some ball bearing balls, and a hook to hook on some guys exhaust, or wherever it could make noises
59:03 <rust_collector> ok, bye mr head
59:28 <rust_collector> I don't get why you hate the standard emacs bindings?
59:32 <MrMobodies> keep them wondering about the noise.
00:31 <electrohead> :P
11:29 <rust_collector> reminds me of those people who put a car horn on a trailer plug, and put them on random cars, so it would honk if the car braked.
12:55 <rust_collector> ok, time to get out of here. You can have fun etc.
12:59 <rust_collector> good night
16:12 <MrMobodies> night to you
17:29 <MrMobodies> I remembered something like that on a show called American Hotrods, they tried to prank someone there called Burt but he caught them under his car in the act.
18:33 <rust_collector> the trick is to install the train horn under the seat....
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51:53 <Nothing\> hola from me and my kitty luci who his standing right in front of the TV blocking my view and pawing at anything that moves on screen, including text
52:38 <Nothing\> she's apparently got 6 loose baby hteeth so she's been having a hard time the last couple of days :(
53:20 <Nothing\> took her to the damn vet last night at midnight cuz she kept pawing at her face like something was irritating her mouth so we thought maybe she ate somtehing irritating or a spider or smoething
54:56 <Nothing\> it's funny, i've had... 8 cats through my life and this is the first time i've ever seen a cat make any sort of fuss over teething. but i guess if she's got 6 teeth coming out at the same time that'd probably be fairly uncomfortable. especially with dry food.
55:22 <Nothing\> gave her a plate of breaded chicken today to sorta ease the suffering
02:23 <T3sl4> aw
02:26 * T3sl4 hugs Nothing\
10:16 * Nothing\ hugs T3sl4
10:19 <Nothing\> heya buddy
10:22 <Nothing\> how goes it?
10:31 <T3sl4> good, dinner time
10:50 <Nothing\> right on, you know i found out yesterday dinner can refer to lunch as well as supper?
11:19 <Nothing\> i remember my brother saying something about being confused one time when he was little and my grandfather said they were gonna stop for dinner in the middle of the day
11:51 * Ampera hugs Nothing\ 
11:53 <Ampera> <3 <3 <3
11:55 <Nothing\> then i was just looking at the routine boys at this old juvenile detention center for truants in the 1880s was, and it said dinner was at noon
12:04 * Nothing\ hugs Ampera <3 <3 <3
12:10 <T3sl4> what about second dinner? https://i.ytimg.com/vi/8uFIwuoopHo/maxresdefault.jpg
12:11 <Nothing\> hey buddy, how you doing?
12:17 <Ampera> I am doing very very very yes
12:28 <Nothing\> T3sl4, for some reason i keep thinking you're dutch lol
12:52 <Nothing\> i know we've been through this but it just caused me some confusion cuz i thought you were 6 hours ahead of me or whatever they are over there
12:56 <T3sl4> excuse me, i use a normal number of voowels
13:02 <T3sl4> oh shiit
13:03 <Nothing\> lol
13:08 <Ampera> T3sl4 is just a big cheese
13:14 <T3sl4> ^
13:18 <Nothing\> i've been trying to learn german from this german joke book my mom gave me
13:36 <Nothing\> my family's german, i was the first generation of canadians
13:46 <Nothing\> my maternal family anyways
14:16 <Ampera> naturlisch, von was else kanst du deutsch gelernt?
14:20 <Nothing\> but frankly i find i have an easier time learning russian, at least in terms of the grammar
14:42 <Nothing\> i can pronounce german alright, but i barely understand a dozen words or so
15:05 <Nothing\> i just figured out with german, everything gets pronounced. silent letters are a rarity, if a think at all
15:15 <Ampera> I used to be able to speak german at a simplistic level, but it's largely lost from me
15:24 <Nothing\> and you don't get weird rules like in english
15:55 <Ampera> I also realized I used "else" which I do not believe is correct, should be anders iirc
16:23 <Nothing\> french is my second strongest language. between having to take it for 9 years in school and all packaging, signage, government documents etc being bilingual. That's helped me learn a good bit of french vocabulary
16:33 <Nothing\> but my french grammar is atrocious
16:37 <Ampera> Нотинг, ю аре кют
17:17 <Nothing\> notyang... f? are kft?
17:33 <Nothing\> i forget what that starship enterprise looking letter says, but i think it's an F sound
17:42 <Ampera> no that's ф
17:49 <Nothing\> that's right
17:51 <Ampera> ю == you
17:59 <Nothing\> how's it pronounced?
18:05 <Ampera> you
18:11 <Nothing\> wait, is that formal you or informal?
18:12 <Ampera> no I mean that character is pronounced you
18:14 <Nothing\> cuz i know there are 2
18:17 <Nothing\> ah
18:18 <Ampera> it does not mean you
18:22 <Nothing\> oh okay
18:46 <Ampera> also you confused и & й
18:51 <Nothing\> i have a site i go to with transliterations of cyrillic letters and basic russian lessons
18:57 <Nothing\> ah yeah, i do that a lot
19:04 <Nothing\> those two letters give me trouble
19:06 <Ampera> one is like a long e, and the other is like a yuh
19:12 <Nothing\> that and the russian versions of G and L
19:15 <Nothing\> i always mix them up
19:18 <Ampera> that being said I wasn't speaking russian
19:44 <Ampera> given all what I said, read that sentence again
19:56 <Nothing\> http://www.russianlessons.net/lessons/lesson1_alphabet.php
20:05 <Nothing\> i normally use that site to transliterate words
20:11 <Ampera> I had a private tutor when I tried to learn russian
20:22 <Nothing\> or t least the letters i can't remember what sounds they make
20:42 <Ampera> I can pronounce russian fairly well, its rules are usually pretty lenient compared to English
20:52 <Nothing\> frankly, learning a language seems like a lesson in futility to me, unless you have a regular use for it and/or immersion
21:31 <Nothing\> yeah i remember bald and bankrupt saying not to worry about your pronunciation in russian cuz they'll know what you're saying either way
21:47 <Ampera> well that's because the average russian is too drunk to understand what you're saying anyways
21:57 <Nothing\> rofl i was just thinking the same thing
22:11 <Nothing\> bah i should have a smoke, i haven't smoked yet all day
22:21 <Ampera> did I tell you I got new headphones?
22:27 <Nothing\> no, cordless?
22:33 <Ampera> wireless, aye
22:35 <Nothing\> are they actual headphones? or earbuds?
22:39 <Ampera> Sennheiser RS 175's
22:42 <Ampera> actual headphones
22:45 <Ampera> I spent around 200 bucks on them
22:46 <Nothing\> right on mr fancypants
23:00 <Nothing\> see my problem when i did listen to music
23:05 <Nothing\> this was before bluetooth was common
23:11 <Ampera> they are intended to supplant the other Sennheisers I had, which were bluetooth
23:16 <Ampera> and bluetooth absolutely fucking sucks for audio
23:28 <Nothing\> so i had a bad habit of breaking the cord for my headphones by running them over with my office chair
23:45 <Ampera> it's dumb, bluetooth had the mission of being a universal wireless standard for everything, the USB of radio, and it ended up doing everything really really poorly
23:47 <Nothing\> eventually the copper wire would break inside the cord and would only work if you jiggled it
24:11 <Nothing\> or i'd just drop my headphones and break them
24:30 <Nothing\> either way, i never had a pair of headphones, no matter how expensive, that lasted me longer than a year
24:49 <Nothing\> one or the other would inevitably end up happening to it
24:58 <Ampera> I've never properly dropped a pair of headphones
25:09 <Ampera> but I did have a cheap pair of Sennheisers that I chewed the cable on because I'm a fucking idiot
25:15 <Nothing\> maybe i'm just a bit too clumsy
25:16 <Ampera> so I did end up fucking that one
25:23 <Nothing\> i went through like 6 ecigs dropping them
26:03 <Nothing\> i even dropped one from a 13th storey balcony cuz i was looking over it, vaping and nodded off. dropped the thing and it exploded into a million pieces on impact
26:13 <Ampera> hahaha
26:27 <Ampera> yeah I'm a person who is very very very careful about not dropping shit
26:32 <Ampera> now that I have a 1600 dollar phone :P
26:46 <Nothing\> and i had hard wood floors at my last place, so every time i'd nod off and drop an ecig, it would inevitably break and i'd have to get a new one
26:52 <Nothing\> yeah
27:01 <Nothing\> well i have a $2,000 computer
27:02 <Nothing\> :P
27:13 <Ampera> I forget how much I spent on mine, I think it was around 2500
27:16 <Nothing\> most expensive thing i own, or have ever owned
27:19 <Ampera> and I'm about to give it a 1500 dollar upgrade
27:23 <Nothing\> dude
27:28 <Nothing\> i need to send you a pic some time
27:40 <Nothing\> but i went to put a regular mechanical HDD in this computer
27:46 <Nothing\> and there are no drive bays that i can see
27:50 <Ampera> at the bottom
28:04 <Nothing\> yeah there was an SSD at the bottom
28:05 <Ampera> the PSU likely has a big sorta room to itself
28:14 <Nothing\> but i didn't see any drive bays or anything like that
28:26 <Ampera> you have to take the other side panel, if you know what I mean, and look at the bottom
28:29 <Ampera> if there are any they'll be there
28:31 <Nothing\> no obvious way to attach an SSD, or mechanical drive to it
28:40 <Nothing\> right
28:41 <Ampera> but my machine has no external drives at all
28:46 <Ampera> no SSDs, no hard drives, no optical drive
29:03 <Nothing\> ah yeah i just took off the right side panel cuz it's just a simple glass deal held in place by one screw
29:18 <Nothing\> i just unscrew it and the glass case swings open
29:28 <Ampera> I do like that cases now have glass on them
29:42 <Ampera> polycarbonate case sides always were pretty nasty even after a short while
29:47 <Nothing\> very nifty, compared to my mid 1990's case i'd been using for like 15 years
30:03 <Nothing\> yeah this computer looks damn nice with the glass on it
30:35 <Nothing\> and there are large gaps at the front between the glass and the case with 2 case fans to bring air in
30:51 <Nothing\> they sure as hell put a lot of effort into cooling for this thing, it seems
31:13 <Nothing\> there are at least 3 or 4 case fans, plus my GPU fan and CPU fan
31:33 <Ampera> I forget how many fans I have
31:43 <Ampera> I think 2+2+1+2
32:01 <Ampera> 2 case fans, 2 radiator fans that are also sorta case fans, 1 PSU fan, and 2 GPU fans
32:04 <Nothing\> when i got the computer, the top vent had this weird cover on it. it was held on my fridge magnets and looked like it was there to protect it, but it wasn't airtight
32:23 <Nothing\> i'm wondering if it's meant to me left in place to protect it from dust or if i should remove it to alloy for more airflow
32:36 <Nothing\> cuz the vent under it is basically skeletonized and there's almost nothing to it
33:08 <Nothing\> i've left it on thus far and temps haven't gotten out of hand, but i very rarely, if ever run this computer very hard
41:55 Join: EEscrub ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
41:59 <EEscrub> hello
42:09 <Nothing\> hello EEscrub
42:09 <EEscrub> i was on here some time ago asking for advice on purchasing an oscilloscope
42:28 <Nothing\> ah i just bought my first one a few months ago
42:30 <Nothing\> ask away
42:41 <EEscrub> I would like to buy an decent oscilloscope that I do not wish to upgrade for a while
42:46 <EEscrub> or maybe one I can even hack
42:56 <Nothing\> well in terms of ones you can hack
43:01 <EEscrub> get my money's worth as they are very very expensive brand new
43:10 <Nothing\> i'd recommend the brand i get
43:13 <Nothing\> *got
43:17 <EEscrub> what did you get?
43:34 <Nothing\> lol i'm trying to remember, just had a brain fart
43:39 <EEscrub> np\
43:56 <Nothing\> but stupid me, i got the 200mhz version
43:59 <electrohead> DS1054Z
44:01 <electrohead> ?
44:03 <EEscrub> I would like a 200mhz as well
44:10 <electrohead> and, hey o/
44:12 <Nothing\> then find out later i coulda got a 100mhz version and hacked it to be 200mhz
44:14 <Nothing\> :/
44:19 <EEscrub> rip
44:26 <EEscrub> whats the model?
44:28 <Nothing\> yeah, live and learn i guess
44:33 <Nothing\> still looking, sorry
44:37 <Nothing\> i'm ADD :P
44:53 * electrohead pokes Ampera
45:12 <electrohead> for the brand, was it rigol?
45:16 <Nothing\> bah, not in my amazon history so i'll just go look at it
45:24 <Nothing\> nah, it was a less popular brand
45:29 <Nothing\> but still just as reliabl
45:43 <EEscrub> is ur scope not with you?
45:56 <Nothing\> hanktek 5202P
45:58 <Nothing\> there we go
46:09 <Nothing\> no it is, it's just covered up and under a table
46:34 <Nothing\> it's a great entry level scope, and i even got an update to the firmware after i got it
46:46 <Nothing\> though that required i register with the site but i guess that's to be expected
46:58 <EEscrub> @nothing
46:58 * Ampera pokes electrohead 
47:09 <EEscrub> can you hack that rigol?
47:19 <EEscrub> I'm willing to spend a decent amount of money
47:20 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/Hantek-DSO5202P-Digital-Oscilloscope-Sample/dp/B00H1TES4C/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=hantek+5202p&qid=1599706105&sr=8-1
47:21 <EEscrub> maybe like
47:27 <EEscrub> 1-3k the most?
47:28 <Nothing\> so there's the actual scope that I bought
47:39 <electrohead> :p
47:41 <electrohead> hey mate
47:53 <Nothing\> but like I said, EEscrub, there's a 100mhz version that you can unlock the 200mhz functionality through firmware
47:57 <electrohead> Nothing\: how are hantek's overall? never used them yet
48:13 <EEscrub> I see
48:18 <EEscrub> that would be great'
48:36 <EEscrub> i should probably just pick an entry level scope and see if I even need anything more powerful later on
48:37 <Nothing\> mine's pretty good. i'll admit the software's been a bit glitchy. but it still gets the job done without question and doesn't give me problems. which are the main things i look for in diagnostic tools
48:49 <Nothing\> you don't want to be constantly questioning readings
48:54 <Nothing\> or fighting with your equipment
48:55 <EEscrub> inb4 I buy a billion adapters later on such as
49:08 <electrohead> yeah definitely
49:11 <Nothing\> i'd like to get a differential probe
49:16 <EEscrub> yeah.. def want good quality
49:23 <EEscrub> or else its like buy garbage quality things
49:31 <EEscrub> and then having to buy again etc
49:32 <Nothing\> EEscrub, well then you've found the right scope
49:38 <electrohead> EEscrub: have you mastered your ebay skills, yet?
49:41 <Nothing\> i mean, just look at the reviews
49:44 <EEscrub> no =\
49:48 <Nothing\> actually electrohead is right
49:54 <Nothing\> you'd find a cheaper scope on eby
49:56 <Nothing\> ebay
50:00 <Nothing\> BUT
50:05 <Nothing\> not necessarily as reliable
50:12 <Nothing\> assuming second hand
50:21 <electrohead> I got a 50 MHz analog scope that hasn't let me down, yet
50:25 <electrohead> use it as a backup
50:27 <Nothing\> new, you'd probably pay about as much as on amazon
50:40 <Nothing\> man, i'd love to get an analog scope
50:47 <electrohead> got it used for like, $80 USD with shipping?
50:50 <EEscrub> do you think 200 Mhz is overkill?
50:53 <Nothing\> just cuz the X VS Y on digital scopes SUCKS
50:56 <Nothing\> EEscrub, not at all
51:05 <electrohead> EEscrub: not at all. analog scopes are very good to have
51:08 <Nothing\> EEscrub, like i said, go for the 100mhz model
51:10 <electrohead> lol
51:15 <Nothing\> you can hack it and get 200mhz out of it
51:15 <EEscrub> especially since the bandwidth needs to be 5X frequency you are measuring
51:24 <Nothing\> all you have to do is install some firmware
51:30 <Nothing\> which is pretty straight forward
51:59 <EEscrub> well thats gonna be on my list
52:07 <EEscrub> BUT if I can get something nicer
52:11 <EEscrub> i would def get that
52:14 <electrohead> I understand digital scopes nowadays have lots of bells and whistles, but is always nice to have a reliable backup, in case something happens, ie bad software glitch, bad readings, etc
52:15 <Nothing\> though frankly if i were in your shoes
52:21 <Nothing\> i'd just get the 200mhz model anyways
52:23 <EEscrub> would prefer 4 analog channels
52:26 <Nothing\> even knowing what i know now
52:34 <Nothing\> i'd rather do things legit and KNOW it'll work
52:38 <Nothing\> ya know?
53:03 <Nothing\> not risk the slim but present risk of bricking a piece of equipment i took half a year to save up for
53:16 <Nothing\> anywho i'll brb real quick i was on my way out for a smoke
53:29 <electrohead> Nothing\: smoke one for me :p
53:46 <electrohead> and I'll drink some plum moonshine for you and EEscrub
53:47 <electrohead> :D
53:59 <electrohead> and Ampera as well
54:44 <EEscrub> https://www.testequipmentdepot.com/tektronix/oscilloscope/mso2024b.htm
54:46 <Ampera> blech
54:47 <Ampera> booze
54:56 <Nothing\> electrohead, it's a bowl of weed topped with shatter
55:02 <electrohead> :o
55:18 <Nothing\> haven't had a proper smoke all day
55:23 <electrohead> please smoke one for me, I gave it up some time ago, now
55:24 <Nothing\> and it's relaxation time
55:40 <Nothing\> so did i, then i started back up a month or two ago
55:48 <Nothing\> it was fine at first, then tolerance
56:00 <Nothing\> you know how fast tolerance goes up and how unreasonable the amounts become
56:08 <Nothing\> within a month i was at that point
56:17 <electrohead> takes time, my man :)
56:24 <Nothing\> indeed
56:26 <Nothing\> anywho brb
56:38 <electrohead> I gave it up so I can work on a [redacted] job
56:45 <electrohead> will power :)
56:50 <electrohead> and ok, take your time
57:01 <electrohead> :D
57:16 <electrohead> Ampera: this is 'shine from the moonshine country side
57:34 <Ampera> from where the sun don't shine :P
57:57 <electrohead> :P
58:05 <electrohead> oh it shines down there for sure haha
58:12 <electrohead> very nice country side
58:28 <Ampera> I'm bored so I'm setting up tt-rss on an old mac mini
58:30 <electrohead> I'm taking the misses down with me to visit my friend
58:42 <electrohead> well, next month
59:08 <electrohead> sounds fun
59:15 <Ampera> it's a web app
59:15 <Ampera> so no
59:30 <Ampera> LAMP stack so it's not crazy complicated
59:33 <electrohead> heh
59:35 <electrohead> https://git.tt-rss.org/fox/tt-rss
59:37 <Nothing\> hooey i think that's enough
59:42 <Nothing\> put a bit too much shatter on that one
59:49 <electrohead> (posting the git page for others who want to see it)
59:50 <Nothing\> couldn't finish it
00:10 <electrohead> Nothing\: I used to smoke myself stupid just to frickin' sleep >.<
00:16 <Nothing\> same
00:29 <Nothing\> i'll go through a gram of shatter and 1/8oz of weed in 2 day
00:35 <Nothing\> that's about what i'm averaging atm
00:37 <electrohead> the military fucked my head up a bit, but nowadays I'm doing so much better
00:59 <electrohead> dude, I used to blow through an ounce in almost a week >.<
01:21 <EEscrub> mdo vs mso?
01:22 <electrohead> so much money wasted, but.. you live and learn
02:09 <electrohead> hmm
02:16 <electrohead> I'd go with mixed domain, but, that's me
05:08 <EEscrub> explain pls
05:16 <EEscrub> i saw something about time correlation
05:21 <EEscrub> but dont really understand
05:28 <EEscrub> or at least at a high level
06:03 <Nothing\> electrohead, did you smoke tobacco as well?
06:20 <Nothing\> and how long have you smoked pot, if you don't mind my asking?
06:39 <Nothing\> reason i ask is i find when i smoke just weed, no tobacco. it absolutely fucks my lungs up
07:01 <Nothing\> to the point where i need to use an inhaler. which isn't usual if i'm not smoking
07:25 <Nothing\> and i find i constantly hack up black shit. hell my phlegm has even tasted like a dirty pipe more than once
08:26 <Nothing\> it certainly feels more damaging than tobacco. Can't say if it's carcinogenic or more so. But in terms of just straight up harm. Cannabis seems to be much more harmful.
09:27 <Nothing\> irritation, difficulty breathing, phlegm of various unpleasant colours. etc
10:55 <Nothing\> aha here man
10:57 <Nothing\> https://tinyurl.com/yxvucb8k
11:09 <Nothing\> there's the exact same hantek scope in a 100mhz model
11:46 <Nothing\> i'd suggest reading up on swapping firmware and all of that stuff to get an idea of what it's about. Could save you a couple hundred bucks.
11:49 <electrohead> sorry, I'm here
11:58 <electrohead> EEscrub: to save on some typing, check this out - https://www.tek.com/document/online/primer/xyzs-scopes/ch2/oscilloscope-types
12:00 <Nothing\> no worries. I like to babble. lol
12:20 <electrohead> Nothing\: I used to smoke cigarettes years ago
12:33 <Nothing\> yeha i switched to ecigs
12:35 <electrohead> ended up rolling my own, and was smoking close to three packs a day >.<
12:46 <Nothing\> less harmful but more psychologically addictive imo
12:50 <Nothing\> damn
12:53 <electrohead> but, gave that up, then did the e-cig/vape thing for some time, then gave that up as well
12:53 <Nothing\> i was never that high
13:02 <Nothing\> but i smoked cigs for almost 20 years
13:16 <Nothing\> and cannabis, going on 21
13:33 <EEscrub> theres no discord.. right?
14:09 <electrohead> I'm not a big talker via voice
14:20 <electrohead> even with ham radio, I stay away from transmitting via voice lol
14:54 <electrohead> Nothing\: I gave up both the green and nicotine about a month ago, now
17:10 <Nothing\> whew
17:15 <Nothing\> bloody hell
17:28 <Nothing\> no wonder i feel so unwell and shakey. my blood sugar's low
17:41 <Nothing\> just quaffed some gatorage and spoonfulls of sugar
17:44 <electrohead> type 1 or 2?
17:58 <Nothing\> i always forget which is which, adult onset
18:23 <Nothing\> though i'm pushing it back into prediabetic territory. i keep gettings lows for some reason. unrelated to medication.
18:51 <Nothing\> crapetite i guess
19:15 <Nothing\> sugar brings it back up fast though
19:33 <EEscrub> you guys know where I can buy components for the cheap?
19:39 <EEscrub> breadboard components that is
19:39 <Nothing\> it's weird though cuz i get hypoglycemic sympoms before my sugar levels even go down below normal
19:48 <Nothing\> EEscrub, ali express
19:50 <electrohead> EEscrub: where do you live?
19:55 <EEscrub> omg I actually tried that
20:05 <Nothing\> i've got about 10 breadboards from them
20:06 <EEscrub> and order didnt go through for "system reason" =\
20:11 <Nothing\> i'll be honest, it's touch and go
20:19 <EEscrub> live in CA
20:24 <electrohead> I like venturing towards ebay, but always be careful about the sellers, and location
20:26 <Nothing\> some of theme, the power rails are so loose if you jiggle the wire the whole circuit goes nuts
20:36 <Nothing\> others are normal and as you'd expect
20:39 <electrohead> ok, do you have any local shops around you?
20:46 <Nothing\> but you can't tell from the ads
20:52 <Nothing\> actually
20:59 <Nothing\> look into elegoo boaards
21:13 <Nothing\> i just bought a pack of 3 on amazon, lemme see how much it was
21:20 <electrohead> wait, you said 'for the cheap'
21:21 <Nothing\> they're a good brand name apparently
21:35 <electrohead> amazon or ebay
22:07 <Nothing\> here, these are what i just got
22:10 <Nothing\> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B01EV6LJ7G/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
22:30 <Nothing\> course you'll have to find the yank equivalent, which'll probably be half the price
22:44 <Nothing\> for some reason electronics are so much cheaper in america
25:33 <EEscrub> I already got the breadboardsd
25:40 <EEscrub> Just need components like capacitors
25:42 <EEscrub> resistors
25:46 <EEscrub> transistors
25:47 <EEscrub> ICs
25:49 <EEscrub> etc
26:06 <Nothing\> huh
26:20 <Nothing\> electrohead, won't let me send you a PM without a registered name
26:44 <Nothing\> never bothered registering my name lol
28:15 <Nothing\> heh i've been watching king of the hill a lot lately
29:21 <Nothing\> and in one episode, peggy's tutoring lucky for his GED so he can meet his code of honor to propose to Peggy's niece. And peggy doesn't want that so she starts sabbotaging his grades by teaching him false stuff
29:39 <Nothing\> and one of those false things she taught him was that all numbers have 2 square roots lol
29:57 <electrohead> lol
30:06 <Nothing\> i mean, the second square root in her case was random. but i thought it was funny cuz all positive integers DO have 2 square roots
30:13 <electrohead> and, all is good, I always regsiter my nicks
30:56 <Nothing\> lotta funny stuff in that show
31:13 <Nothing\> in the y2k panic episode, people were buying out all of the toilet paper
31:28 <electrohead> my animated show of choice is south park :p
31:32 <Nothing\> go figure, 20 years before it happens, Mike Judge predicts it
32:04 <Nothing\> i used to like south park, but the references go over my head now cuz i don't follow news or pop culture very much at all
32:34 <Nothing\> and they went from being more wacky and zany stuff to just politically motivated stuff
32:47 <Nothing\> political/pop culture
33:32 <Nothing\> i mean i know they've always done that, but when i last watched about 2 years ago it seemed a lot more prevalent than it was several years ago
38:55 <electrohead> yeah they really go off the deep end in terms of the political stuff
39:19 <electrohead> I do love it, however I'm catching myself not caring as much anymore about the political side of things, overall
39:22 <Nothing\> lol my mom works for a packaging plant, so during the TP shortage every week her bosses would send her and everyone else home with 2 or 3 big packs of TP or paper towel
39:40 <Nothing\> same
39:47 <Nothing\> politics are depressing
39:51 <Nothing\> news is depressing
39:59 <electrohead> lmao.. that was just plain fucking stupid, the whole toilet paper 'thing'
40:07 <Nothing\> life sucks enough without the world's problems on your back too
40:23 <Nothing\> yeah i'm still not sure exactly what it was about
40:50 <Nothing\> best explanations i heard is that people thought since it came from china they might cut off the supply so they should stock up while they can
41:26 <electrohead> mate, I did close to 9 years active duty, in the air force. that was enough politics for me back then, nowadays whenever I put the news on, look at my newws feeds, etc, it's just straight up pathetic.
41:48 <Ampera> I can agree with that and I didn't even need to join the military
41:59 <Ampera> politics are getting fucking stupid these days
42:06 <Ampera> it's just divisive beyond reason
42:35 <electrohead> between the toilet paper thing, the coronavirus bullshit - as in, the people being divided between 'you need a mask' and "it's a hoax and stupid"
42:36 <electrohead> eh
42:50 <electrohead> I work at a beer store, and every day at work, there's that *one* guy
43:33 <electrohead> for fuck sake, the LCB (liquor control board) mandates mask wearing. some people don't get that regardless what you believe, you need a mask if you want to feed your adiction
43:37 <electrohead> addiction *
44:51 <electrohead> had some dude go off and off about it, trying to tell me that it's all fake, the news is all fake, trump is king, and I think he really wanted to say he had a big dick as well lol
47:14 <Nothing\> electrohead, even though i'm canadian, i still thank you for your service. us being allies and all
47:23 <Nothing\> sincerely, thank you
47:27 <electrohead> eh
47:51 <electrohead> I did it because I didn't have straight A's in high school, therefore college would have put me in the hole
48:22 <Nothing\> as far as i'm concerned a person fighting for an allied country's forces might as well be one of our own
48:28 <electrohead> actually, I recall someone telling me that already, may have been you
48:54 <Nothing\> sounds like somehing i'd say
49:00 <Nothing\> though i'm prone to bouts of amnesia
49:05 <electrohead> lol
49:11 <Nothing\> seriously
49:19 <electrohead> and I lose track of what I say to who in public channels, so, same here, sorry
49:23 <Nothing\> it's like a camera that's running, but nobody pressed record
49:38 * electrohead tapes your record button down :P
49:55 <Nothing\> it looks and acts perfectly normal, but you go to retrieve the footage and nope, nowhere to be found, not one single shred of it
50:05 <Nothing\> lol yeah if only
50:25 <electrohead> smoke another xD
50:33 * electrohead looks at himself in the past >.>
50:35 <Nothing\> "these pills i've developed will ensure that the record button in your brain is taped down all the time."
50:52 <Nothing\> electrohead, nah it's my psych meds
51:27 <electrohead> seriously, try to get the will power to slowly get off the weed, if you can, it will help a lot
51:37 <Nothing\> it's weird cuz i can watch the exact same episode of a show like 4 or 5 times and it's still like the first time i've watched it
51:48 <Nothing\> though i do remember bits and piecese here and there the more i watch it
52:01 <electrohead> I was on meds in the past, but had issues with them
52:03 <Nothing\> electrohead, yeah you're very right about that
52:26 <electrohead> gave those up and now I'm ehh, more stable, but my mood swings just suck worse now
52:32 <electrohead> just learn to live with it
52:43 <Nothing\> i would like to stop smoking, both for the effects it has on my lungs and the financial cost of it
53:01 <electrohead> you'll definitely save way more money, that's for sure
53:04 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: https://t.co/SiYbe0KBc9
53:17 <electrohead> used to blow throw quite some money, myself
53:24 <Nothing\> oh yeah, that's why i was able to buy this computer
53:26 <Nothing\> and my switch
53:35 <Nothing\> cuz i saved money from not smoking weed
53:39 <electrohead> :P
53:48 <Nothing\> well, my mom helped a bit with the computer
53:51 <electrohead> I'm working on fixing my car up right now
54:02 <Nothing\> but i'm paying her back for that
54:15 <Nothing\> right on. i haven't got a car
54:19 <Nothing\> dunno if that's good or bad
54:24 <electrohead> just scheduled the appointment today, actually, for the full cleaning and detailing
54:32 <Nothing\> on one hand, i haven't got the expenses and what not
54:35 <Nothing\> on the other hand
54:39 <Nothing\> car=freedom
54:50 <electrohead> yes, so much freedom
54:55 <electrohead> then you can drive to work :P
55:01 <Nothing\> but in my current state, i'd probably end up with a DUI in pretty short order
55:11 <electrohead> you can do it.
55:13 <Nothing\> for my regular meds, if nothing else
55:18 <Nothing\> exactly
55:20 <Nothing\> more motivation
55:43 <electrohead> just tell yourself that you are doing it to better yourself
55:47 <electrohead> and test yourself as well
55:55 <electrohead> set a goal, and work to make it :)
56:03 <Nothing\> i most certainly have
56:08 <electrohead> just don't set too many >.<
56:12 <Nothing\> i have a couple of goals i'm working towards
56:20 <Nothing\> saving enough to upgrade my computer
56:25 <electrohead> cause now I'm pushing myself to do this and that, heh
56:55 <Nothing\> weaning off of some of my superfluous meds and getting my license
57:06 <electrohead> :)
57:09 <Nothing\> cuz atm i'm on a methadone program for well over 5 years
57:13 * electrohead lets Ampera smell the moonshine
57:19 <Ampera> no
57:24 <electrohead> :p
57:35 <electrohead> looks like the smell woke you up :P
57:40 <Nothing\> actually i don't even know how long it's been
57:43 <Nothing\> damn
57:49 <electrohead> Nothing\: that's quite some time
58:15 <Nothing\> yeah i've been on opioids for ~10 years
58:20 <Nothing\> constant
58:39 <electrohead> not good :(
58:44 <electrohead> just don't die, please
58:47 <Nothing\> dabbled for about another 10 years before that with increasing frequency
58:55 <Nothing\> no don't worry, i won't
58:59 <Nothing\> i'm in a medical program now
59:17 <Nothing\> i'm supervised, take piss tests, see doctors weekly
59:41 <Nothing\> the whole shebang, except counselling and like that but it's avalaible if i wanted it
00:21 <EEscrub> ok i am contacting a ebay seller
00:26 <EEscrub> hopefully things work out
00:32 <EEscrub> gonna try to negotiate
00:35 <Nothing\> what kinda scope?
00:38 <EEscrub> mso
00:44 <Nothing\> nice
00:47 <Nothing\> bandwidth?
00:58 <Nothing\> MSO would be nice to have
01:22 <Nothing\> but i'd i'magine the bandwidth is probably lower, is it not?
02:22 <electrohead> I'm falling asleep at my keyboard, so.. time to hit the sack for the night
02:30 <electrohead> g'night all o/
03:16 <Nothing\> heh i know that feeling
03:19 <Nothing\> goodnight, man
03:30 <Nothing\> have a good one o"
03:35 <Nothing\> or something like that
03:38 <EEscrub> yeah i waste a lot of money on food
03:48 <Nothing\> can't find my slash key on dvorak after 10+ years lol
03:57 <EEscrub> so i was thinking just sacrifice going out for a while, and basically that makes up for the scope
03:57 <EEscrub> xD
04:38 <Nothing\> aoeuidhtns-
05:05 <Nothing\> man, my cats are still tormenting my poor mom
05:14 <Nothing\> running back and forth across her room while she's trying to sleep
05:37 <Nothing\> and presumably running over her bed and herself
11:09 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: Chris Anderson: It's a credit to Denis Villeneuve that he did his research on the exact Pantone color of a sky with high-altitude smoke. Absolutely perfect. https://t.co/aciwtbAWZt
11:10 <Nothing\> yup
11:56 <Nothing\> just had to bribe the one with kitty treats to get him out of her room
13:00 <Nothing\> it's always so weird when cats do that thing where they run back and forth like crazy for no apparent reason
40:06 <EEscrub> https://www.tek.com/promotions/spring-summer-2020-sale
40:14 <EEscrub> i want the MDO34 so bad
40:19 <EEscrub> but its crazy expensive =[
40:30 <EEscrub> but like, why waste money on cheap stuff right?
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27:46 <Nothing\> i like that 1ghz hardware spectrum analyzer
28:54 <Nothing\> i'll be honest, i forget the specs but the spectrum analyzer on my scope is jus what you'd expect from an entry level scope
30:23 <Nothing\> http://scopechart.com/hantek/hantek-dso5202p-dso5202p-34
30:41 <Nothing\> mine doesn't even give specs on the... spectrum analyzer
31:55 <Nothing\> amazon has some decent ones for $100-$200
32:46 <Nothing\> oh hey it's the 10th
33:20 <Nothing\> that means i get my sales tax refund. which comes every month on the 10th for $70
33:39 <Nothing\> not a bad deal at all. part of our tax return
55:46 <Nothing\> welp, time to call it a night
55:50 <Nothing\> have a good one guys
55:51 <Nothing\> <3
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30:06 <Ysjoelfir> hello all
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52:55 <steve30> hi
54:27 <Ysjoelfir> hi steve :)
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55:54 <NeroTHz> monin
55:58 <Ysjoelfir> Hi NeroVeryFast
59:08 <K> hello
59:15 <Ysjoelfir> hello K
04:54 <NeroTHz> https://www.amazon.fr/photos/share/wUxdppqoq9z2TpxQje3b79Z0oGCQWakuoGWzJXRQaMr
04:57 <NeroTHz> result of my trip :p
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14:19 <Ysjoelfir> whoops. that was the wrong window to hit ctrl + w in :D
14:52 <Ysjoelfir> nice Eichhörnchen, NeroTHz :D (I won't even try to pronounce the english word in my head)
17:04 <K> same goes for german one
17:23 <Ysjoelfir> lets call it oakhorn then
17:33 <Ysjoelfir> (which would be a literal translation of Eichhörnchen)
18:22 <Ysjoelfir> well, tiny oakhorn, as -chen at the end is a way to make things "smaller" or "cute". like Brot - Brötchen (bread - breadroll).
19:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I will make it fit... https://t.co/amog0B0CHj
21:32 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It fitted. https://t.co/LnCDk7mWef
22:45 <NeroTHz> hehe ;p
23:05 <NeroTHz> I really want a 600mm f4 lens
23:11 <NeroTHz> but unfortunatly I don´t shit money so
23:23 <K> heh
23:45 <K> one day i will have the 200/F1.8 and 50/F1.0
23:55 <K> mark my works
23:59 <K> err, words.
23:59 <Ysjoelfir> I have an old 800mm f16 somewhere with a T2 mount, maybe that helps? :P
24:27 <NeroTHz> there is a used 500 f4 for just 4 grand for sale at the local camera store
25:00 <NeroTHz> also a 300 f2.8 for 2.3k
25:09 <K> yuuge
25:45 <NeroTHz> though I have to be honest, the 200-500 f5.6 from nikon is such a great lens, I think a newer body would be better for me right now
27:02 <NeroTHz> (and a new camera backpack - taking a 200-500 + 70-200 + macro + body 20km into forests is a pain with my current backpack which isn really made for cameras)
27:15 * Ysjoelfir points NeroTHz to the Pentax K-1 Mark 2
31:40 <NeroTHz> https://www.lowepro.com/global/pro-trekker-bp-450-aw-ii-lp37269-pww/ was thinking of this
32:17 <NeroTHz> esp since Iḿ looking to upgrade next year and get at least another camera body and perhaps another lens too
32:51 <Ysjoelfir> I have the predecessor of that one. its great https://www.lowepro.com/global/flipside-400-aw-ii-lp37129-config/
33:39 <NeroTHz> the main thing that bothers me about them is that there is no back-access
33:47 <NeroTHz> so you need to take the backpack off completly to access stuff
34:11 <NeroTHz> but on the other hand, I can´t help but feel like that doesn´t matter all that much, because it´s not like I do a lot of ´fast camera switching´ out in the forest
34:42 <NeroTHz> (that is the trekker has that as downside, it only front-opens I believe)
34:49 <Ysjoelfir> not quite. you have a belly strap. just slip out of the shoulder straps, flip that thing around your belly and you have like a "table" in front of you. I thought it might be complicated or uncomfortable, but it actually works very great for me
36:24 <NeroTHz> can you mount a tripod to yours?
36:41 <Ysjoelfir> yes, it has a little pocket on the back and a small strap that holds it on the top
38:37 <Ysjoelfir> https://cdn.vitecimagingsolutions.com/pub/media/catalog/product/cache/ec0992913a30d00395e108864cd58e0a/c/a/camera-backpacks-flipside-300-awii-tripodmount-sq-lp37127-config.jpg like that
40:32 <K> i've reduced occasional-carry-around setup to one body and a prime lens
40:35 <NeroTHz> https://www.amazon.fr/photos/share/ifKnfyOFeHbN1IyB7OO9HFMtDGxr26pLHlnVGaRqbMQ
40:41 <NeroTHz> this is my main issue with 90% of backpacks :p
40:52 <NeroTHz> it´s uhm... rather sizeable
40:54 <K> kept in a crumpler shoulder photo bag
41:49 <Ysjoelfir> well :D it should fit in the lowepro. you rebuild the inside using some dividers with velcro pads.
42:33 <Ysjoelfir> and I did the same as K for "regular" stuff - I keep my pentax K-01 (not a K-1, thats a different thing :P) and a small 50mm industar at hand
44:02 <K> a canon 1d-mk3 and 85/1.2 for me
44:13 <Ysjoelfir> rich bastard :D
44:40 <K> worth every cent
45:08 <K> i've had this combo for 6(?) years now
45:11 <Ysjoelfir> probably :) but I'm only a hobyist, I don't need such great gear
45:50 <K> i'm not even a hobyist, i just have a camera that does click
45:59 <Ysjoelfir> I had my pentax K-100 for....... hmm...
46:21 <NeroTHz> I´m thinking of getting a nikon z6. Rumor has it that nikon is coming out with a new ´generation´ of their mirrorless body line-up, so I´m hoping that pushes back the price of the old generatio
46:24 <NeroTHz> maybe next stummer
46:29 <NeroTHz> summer*
46:32 <Ysjoelfir> oh wow, i had it for over 12 years before I replaced it :O
46:34 <NeroTHz> first need to finish my house though
47:06 <NeroTHz> heh, my D7100 is almost 10 years old now I think
48:31 <NeroTHz> but they also might be coming out with a 200-600 f5.6 for their z-mount series, and seeing as the 200-500 has gone up in price since release, I might get a good deal on selling mine, so I might just go with an upgrade entirely
49:26 <K> https://imgur.com/a/AcxqoRK - [email protected]
50:47 <NeroTHz> https://www.amazon.fr/photos/share/0O7euRkqZJhaVImSliMv8ZUdRvIWLXJfxm07gme7jqt [email protected] (I think)
50:57 <K> also, meet Wilhelm - https://imgur.com/g1g9ZiV
51:02 <NeroTHz> wait nope, might actually be 200 @f5
51:12 <Ysjoelfir> lol, I like wilhelm
51:22 <NeroTHz> Hi Wilhelm!
51:38 <K> munkeeh
51:39 <NeroTHz> nope, that shot seems like it was indeed 500 f5.6, but amazon photos just rounds that to f5 for god-knows-what-reason
51:56 <K> Math.floor() ftw
52:19 <K> f5 is a wierd number
53:15 <NeroTHz> https://www.amazon.fr/photos/share/6aQVwdARgu2yotG9ulMUmsNXi1lGkYdGWmU7aug56YN
54:49 <K> wait, are you french, NeroTHz?
54:57 <NeroTHz> wat
54:57 <NeroTHz> no
55:09 <K> why .fr amazon ?
55:10 <NeroTHz> but for some reason amazon is strange and defaults me to the french amazon domain when I access photos
55:13 <K> ah.
55:46 <NeroTHz> if I put amazon.de/photos it will just redirect to amazon.fr/photos, even though my prime is with german amazon (and I myself am belgian)
55:57 <Ysjoelfir> that read like "wat? french? ew, by all means no!
55:59 <Ysjoelfir> "
56:00 <Ysjoelfir> xD
56:06 <K> anything but french!
56:29 <NeroTHz> Alorz! not ze frensh! oui has standarrzz iere!
56:44 <Ysjoelfir> exactly XD
57:16 <Ysjoelfir> I got a job offer in switzerland. I was like "ew, no! I won't learn french!"
57:39 <NeroTHz> but only a part of switzerland speaks french
57:54 <K> the other part speaks italian
57:55 <Ysjoelfir> I know
58:03 <Ysjoelfir> both languages I don't want to learn xD
58:07 <NeroTHz> all the good electronic tech companies I know are in the german part (zurich and towards the bodensee)
58:31 <Ysjoelfir> in that case it would have been in tessin
59:00 <Ysjoelfir> so it would have been italian
59:22 <Ysjoelfir> but I don't want to go there in general. I want to go more to the north, not to the south xD
59:23 <K> pasta la pizza!
59:34 <Ysjoelfir> K, you speak perfect italian!
59:48 <Ysjoelfir> you already prooved you are 75% fluent in italian
00:02 <K> !
00:29 <Ysjoelfir> if you also know amore and scusi you are fine to become an italian citizen
00:42 <Ysjoelfir> oh, and you have to be able to do "the hand"
04:36 <NeroTHz> and end words with ´eh´
04:44 <NeroTHz> ´The hand-eh is-eh so niz-eh´
04:53 <Ysjoelfir> indeed!
05:01 <K> that sounds hard thugh
11:47 <Ysjoelfir> we just had our first nation wide alarm day.
11:54 <Ysjoelfir> or... alarm.... minutes
13:36 <Ysjoelfir> the idea was that on ALL media on ALL channels a test should be broadcast. including the nations warning app NINA, including radio, television, and the good old sirens
13:48 <Ysjoelfir> that should have been done for 30 minutes cintinuously
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14:59 <K> did it work?
15:09 <Ysjoelfir> I switched on the o - nothing yet. (start was 1100, end should be 1130) livestream from first german television - 30 seconds interruption, nothing more. sirens: ONE started at 11:16. ONE freakin siren for whole frankfurt
15:35 <Ysjoelfir> and it was not very lout, the truck that came by was louder
15:40 <Ysjoelfir> *loud
15:53 <Ysjoelfir> and the o was the radio
16:38 <NeroTHz> I guess this is why they need to test it
17:10 <Ysjoelfir> should have never stopped doing it regularely 15 years ago imho
17:56 <Ysjoelfir> also they should have never started riping the sirens off the roofs or just plainly disconnecting them from the POTS
18:04 <Ysjoelfir> because money
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21:25 <Halcyon> Howdy all
22:56 <Ysjoelfir> hi hulk
23:27 <Halcyon> Rwar :)
23:46 <Halcyon> OMG people on forums are fucking stupid (not this one)
24:06 <Ysjoelfir> extremely ironic is imho the news from yesterday. many were like "It's going to be loud in germany tomorrow!" or "Ear blasting noise approaching! Germany is going to test all sirens at once!" - well. lets talk about that.
24:08 <Halcyon> Trying to explain simple high school physics to some people (and how it applies in motor vehicle collisions) is impossible.
24:12 <Ysjoelfir> lol, why hulkion?
24:38 <Halcyon> OK, let me put this scenario to you...
25:49 <Halcyon> Without overthinking too much and ignoring the many environmental considerations.... let's say you are stopped behind a line of traffic and you see a vehicle approach you from behind at high speed (say... 60 KM/hr). For whatever reason, they haven't seen the line of cars stopped and that vehicle is about to collide with you... what do you do?
26:36 <Halcyon> (You don't have time to move or take any kind of evasive action, the car is going to hit you from behind)
28:59 <Ysjoelfir> foot off the brake pedal, try to at least accelerate a bit, and honk that freakin horn?
30:06 <steve30> hi
30:51 <Halcyon> THANK YOU
31:01 <Halcyon> And why would you take your foot OFF the brake?
31:19 <Ysjoelfir> to lower the impact forces?
31:33 <Halcyon> I am so glad you have a brain
31:49 <Ysjoelfir> like... basic physics? energy....erm.... *translates*
31:52 <Halcyon> Normal civilians seem to think, no, you're better off not hitting the vehicle in front at all costs.
32:07 <Ysjoelfir> energy conservation law :D
32:17 <Halcyon> My argument is, the longer you can prolong the crash and transfer energy into another crumple zone/vehicle, the better off you will be.
32:18 <Ysjoelfir> you are going to hit it non the less
32:23 <Halcyon> Who gives a shit if you hit the car in front
32:24 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
33:05 <Halcyon> Your body and internal organs don't just magically stay safe, the move forward with the impact and your brain hits the inside of your skull with force
33:14 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
33:25 <Halcyon> Some people just don't friggin get it.
33:37 <Halcyon> I don't care if I write off 10 cars, as long as I'm alive
33:48 <Ysjoelfir> exactly
34:47 <Ysjoelfir> I once was in a crash where my cars wheels were blocked completely all of the sudden and someone crashed into us with like 80 km/h. that hurt damn good
34:59 <Halcyon> Ouch
35:16 <Halcyon> Even 60 km/hr could kill you if you hit a immovable object (like a tree)
35:37 <NeroTHz> one issue with hitting the car in front is that it means you started moving
35:46 <Halcyon> For example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSVJMKd-6jI
35:47 <Ysjoelfir> yep
35:59 <Halcyon> NeroTHz: How so?
36:02 <NeroTHz> usually the desired outcome is that your car behind you folds up, and you move as little as possible, because that means you also accelerated as little as possibel
36:09 <NeroTHz> that is the entire idea behind crumplezones
36:24 <NeroTHz> (I´m assuming you mean you get hit from behind while stationary, if that is not the case I misunderstood and you are right)
36:32 <Halcyon> A crumple zone will only do (and absorb) so much
37:03 <Halcyon> If you can utilise the front crumple zone of your vehicle and the rear zone of the car in front, that transfers some of the kinetic energy into those objects (rather than you)
38:19 <NeroTHz> Halcyon, yes, but that still means that you had to be accelerated from not-moving to moving, which is where trouble comes. You want to minimze acceleration, I think
38:44 <K> preload the trainwreck?
38:46 <Halcyon> Sure, but that's hardly an option when you are stationary
39:05 <NeroTHz> (though in general it is more desireable to be accelerated forwards - stationary to moving - than to be slowed down, because acelerated forwards you have the chair to distribute pressure and load)
40:40 <NeroTHz> regarding backpacks: I think I might go for the lowerpro protrekker 450
43:43 * Halcyon hops into NeroTHz's backpack and hides
50:33 * Ysjoelfir is now searching ebay for air raid sirens to get one to compensate for the poor warning methods we have in germanistan
50:47 <Halcyon> Warning for what?
51:10 <Ysjoelfir> just for eventualities.
51:15 <Ysjoelfir> nothing particular
51:23 <Halcyon> Like when the coffee runs out?
51:37 <Halcyon> Or are you Germans planning something? Hmmmm?
51:39 <Ysjoelfir> haha :D no. did you read my rant about that warning test I wrote more or less immediately before you came? :D
51:48 <Halcyon> Nup
51:59 <Ysjoelfir> do you have the backlog?
54:22 <Halcyon> Ill scroll up
55:00 <NeroTHz> I really wanna go on a proper photo wildlife hike
55:16 <NeroTHz> one where it´s okay to just take the time to sit somewhere for a few hours in hopes of seeing animals
55:28 <Ysjoelfir> why don't you do that?
56:00 <NeroTHz> because I have work ;p and mostly because I would like to not do it alone, but I don´t really know people interested in joining me on this
56:17 <NeroTHz> parehaps my new GF is, though she still needs to get more used to it ;p
56:18 <Ysjoelfir> what about your girl?
56:19 <Halcyon> I see Ysjoelfir
56:26 <Ysjoelfir> see :P
56:33 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon - great, isn't it?
56:51 <Halcyon> I have no idea what our alert system(s) look/sound like
57:56 <Ysjoelfir> you guys are like switzerland. you don't need one. you are too far off that anyone would care xD
58:10 <Halcyon> YAY!
58:51 <Halcyon> I know we have alert sirens and signs in the Sydney CBD, and SMS's can be activated in any given geographic boundary
59:55 * steve30 wonders whether to go out on the bike today
00:09 <Halcyon> Even if you don't, can you wear your bike shorts? :P
00:16 <Ysjoelfir> you love biking, so do it :D
32:00 <Halcyon> steve30: I need to try Yorkshire pudding
32:03 <Halcyon> It looks nommy
32:10 <Ysjoelfir> I wonder... if I want to connect some small sensors with some kind of hub device, wirelessly... which topology should I use? plain radio, like 800something MHz, with a protocoll I design? Bluetooth? WiFi? Maybe even Infrared? XD
32:36 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: LoRaWAN
32:47 <Ysjoelfir> there are so many possibilities and I am so uninformed about that stuff
32:52 <Ysjoelfir> wth is that now
32:59 <Ysjoelfir> I think I read (or maybe even googled) that once
33:05 <Ysjoelfir> but I forgot
33:45 <NeroTHz> ffs why do I have to work with idiots in industry
34:00 <NeroTHz> ´Hey, we put 0 volts in the amplitude modulator of your chip and nothing comes out of the RF port, what gives´
34:02 <Ysjoelfir> I'm sorry NeroTHz ;_;
34:20 <Ysjoelfir> lol
34:34 <Ysjoelfir> oh, lunch! brb
34:37 <NeroTHz> ´Uhm, well, what gives is you are turning the AM modulator off, I would be rather woried if something did come out´
34:53 <hsn> maybe they put 0.4999v
35:06 <hsn> but the guy rounded it
35:20 <steve30> mmm, yorkshire puddings :p
36:20 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: You can buy sensors and devices that transmit on the ISM bands... here it's 915 and 923 MHz
36:27 <Halcyon> Europe I think is 868 MHz ?
36:47 <hsn> 868 is lora i think?
36:49 <Halcyon> Anyway, it uses chirp spread spectrum.
37:09 <Halcyon> You can get some amazing range out of a battery power device that lasts years
37:35 <Halcyon> This is the kind of stuff you can get here: https://www.iot-store.com.au/collections/sensors/lora-iot
37:38 <hsn> which gives u very small transmit time/duty?
37:54 <Halcyon> Everything from temperature sensors to current meters
37:58 <Halcyon> Yes
38:26 <Halcyon> Depends on the data rate and spread you choose
38:47 <NeroTHz> is 868 ISM?
38:54 <Halcyon> And obviously how often your "sensor" transmits
39:38 <Halcyon> https://www.thethingsnetwork.org/docs/lorawan/modulation-data-rate.html
39:53 <NeroTHz> I think 868 isn ISM, but there is a free-to-use PTT band
40:04 <steve30> hmm, now I'd have another coffee I fancy snuggling up in my duvet
40:30 <NeroTHz> or do the EU ptt´s use the 446 band?
40:32 <NeroTHz> not sure anymore
41:14 <Halcyon> steve30: I have never had a Yorkshire pudding before
41:31 <Halcyon> It just looks like a big wad of puff pastry with gravy
41:43 <steve30> they're yummy
42:27 <NeroTHz> Oh for the love of god it gets better. After the ´we put 0 V on the AM modulator and no RF power comes out´, now we also have ´We then linearly increased the DC voltage on the AM modulator and the output power of the RF port increased linearly, but we don´t understand why´
42:57 <Halcyon> https://www.taste.com.au/recipes/yorkshire-puddings-2/9708ff39-d0f6-42c3-85ef-b0ddc74385f0
42:59 <Halcyon> Yum
44:23 <steve30> :p
46:06 <Ysjoelfir> maybe you should explain them what AM stands for, NeroTHz?
46:30 <steve30> If you come here, you'll get genuine Yorkshire-made Yorkshire Puddings
46:31 <steve30> :)
46:33 <Ysjoelfir> Halcyon - ok, sounds.... usefull I think. I hate that I am such a noob in terms of network stuff :X
46:52 <Halcyon> Lora is less about networking and more about RF
47:00 <Halcyon> The networking side of things is easy
47:18 <Halcyon> Buy a gateway, it turns everything from Lora into TCP/IP packets
48:57 <Ysjoelfir> and if I want to develop it myself? I want to get more skills in RF stuff, which is one of the reasons my whole home automation/observation project thoughts started at first :D
50:33 <Halcyon> Well sure, it's very modular and customisable
51:39 * steve30 collapses on Halcyon's lap
51:42 <Halcyon> :D
52:02 <Halcyon> It's just on lunch time there Steve :P
52:55 <rust_collector> And I thought only people with a swiss accent could be into lora things
53:10 <Halcyon> No, it's very popular
54:24 <rust_collector> meh
55:57 <rust_collector> well, have funs.
56:34 <NeroTHz> Lora is barely RF
56:36 <NeroTHz> it´s like DC
57:14 <Halcyon> Sure, but the actual networking side of things is a piss easy
57:32 <NeroTHz> depends I think. I know fuckall about that stuff so it´s the hard part for me
57:46 <Ysjoelfir> cool! then I'm sure you can explain it to me so that I can implement it using an atmega8 and a standard RF module, right? :D
58:03 <NeroTHz> Ysjoelfir, also turns out they have >75 mV supply noise on their VCO bias line
58:11 <NeroTHz> and they now wonder why their spectrum is a mess
58:16 <Ysjoelfir> lol
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