// #eevblog — 2020-09-11
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20:55:08 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PkFaD94yUeo
20:55:22 <Halcyon> Nothing about that looks Bizarre
20:58:21 * Halcyon sucks on Ysjoelfir's white sausage :P
20:59:02 <Ysjoelfir> I hate those. it feels just weird to "zutzel" the sausages (which is what the bavarians call that sucking)
20:59:10 <Halcyon> :P
20:59:59 <Halcyon> I've always wanted to try spaetzle, it looks delicious
21:02:29 <steve30> Oooh, looks like councils are going to be employing men with clipboards in the near future.
21:02:38 <Halcyon> Are they cute
21:02:38 <Halcyon> ?
21:02:46 <steve30> i highly doubt it
21:02:51 <Halcyon> Hah, what is the job?
21:03:21 <coppice> to hold a clip board, of course
21:03:30 <steve30> I assume the job will be walking around with a clipboard at the taxpayers expense.
21:03:37 <Halcyon> For what purpose?
21:03:41 <steve30> https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12629117/dads-army-busybodies-patrol-coronavirus-social-distancing-rules/
21:04:04 <Halcyon> Oh gawd
21:04:31 <Halcyon> So basically a patrol of power-less civilians who will be told to fuck off and have things thrown at them by nutbags/fuckwits?
21:04:44 <steve30> yup
21:04:51 <Halcyon> Yep, that will totally work :P
21:04:52 <coppice> They'll also need to employ people to put up adverts https://preview.redd.it/ak5ejwle2li01.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=59648fd8911920a1a982f357c93659f696ecf674
21:05:16 <Halcyon> It seems like this is a police matter
21:05:23 <Halcyon> They have the power to issue fines and charge people
21:06:48 <coppice> There's a fine line between police and non-police
21:06:54 <Halcyon> There is?
21:09:03 <steve30> I wouldn't be surprised if the clipboard men start using yardsticks to measure how far apart people are standing.
21:09:07 <steve30> :)
21:09:12 <Halcyon> Hahaha
21:09:24 <Halcyon> This thing has gotten ridiculous
21:09:47 <coppice> steve30: metre sticks. Well, 2 metre sticks in this case
21:09:49 <Halcyon> If people aren't following rules, fine them or lock them up, simple. They can explain to a magistrate why they think they are special.
21:10:29 <Halcyon> People are not going to listen to a bunch of pretend police
21:10:48 <coppice> just shoot them on the spot
21:10:55 <Halcyon> :P
21:11:03 <steve30> Halcyon, it is likely that people doing these jobs will be trying to enforce things which are not law. For example, 'social distancing' is not law, so police cannot fine people for being too close.
21:11:25 <Halcyon> There's your first problem
21:11:25 <steve30> Although it will be illegal to gather in groups of more than 6 from next week
21:11:37 <Halcyon> You're trying to enforce the unenforceable
21:11:45 <Halcyon> If it's not illegal, leave people alone
21:12:09 <Halcyon> You are either allowed to do something or you aren't. Pick one.
21:13:03 <coppice> Halcyon: the UK police no longer investigate crime. They are too busy with things like "no crime hate incidents"
21:13:12 <Halcyon> So I've heard
21:13:18 <Halcyon> It's fucking crazy
21:13:34 <coppice> Halcyon: If you have 500k girls being repeatedly raped, that's considered OK
21:13:38 <Halcyon> I wonder what idiot got a promotion out of that stupid idea?
21:14:11 <Halcyon> This is why we broke away from the UK model of policing after Peter Ryan was our Commissioner
21:14:30 <Halcyon> We became a "service" for a while, which was utter bullshit. We are now back to a "Police Force"
21:15:35 <coppice> Halcyon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLfghLQE3F4
21:15:39 <Halcyon> History has taught us that the softly-softly approach doesn't work when it comes to law enforcement. You can't cuddle everyone and expect things to be OK.
21:15:57 <Halcyon> Hah, I've seen this. It's great.
21:17:58 <steve30> hehe
21:19:07 <Halcyon> The Government here privatised some of the low-security jails.
21:19:15 <Halcyon> Needless to say how that turned out :P
21:19:38 <Ysjoelfir> [13:22:49] <Halcyon> History has taught us that the softly-softly approach doesn't work when it comes to law enforcement. You can't cuddle everyone and expect things to be OK.
21:19:45 <Ysjoelfir> ^ except from norway strangely
21:19:55 <Ysjoelfir> (if what you see in documentaries is real)
21:20:01 <Halcyon> *shrug*
21:20:45 <Ysjoelfir> IF stuff is real, I would prefer to be a prisoner in a norwegian high security jail than being homeless in germany XD
21:21:19 <steve30> Halcyon,
21:21:20 <steve30> https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5264121,-1.1449018,3a,28.4y,209.97h,86.68t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sW0yHFkcGAEL83yUaIm3tvg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656
21:21:37 <steve30> They seem very proud of the privatised nature of it
21:21:52 <Halcyon> Riiiight
21:27:37 <NeroTHz> seeing as tehre are a few photo-nerds here
21:27:42 <NeroTHz> anyone have experience making light/softboxes?
21:29:00 <steve30> no, I never bothered trying to make one
21:29:48 <Ysjoelfir> I did, waaaaay back in the time when I had my PC hardware website
21:30:05 <Ysjoelfir> but I can't remember much
21:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> except that ir worked realy nice
21:30:16 <Ysjoelfir> *it
21:30:54 <NeroTHz> okay
21:31:10 <NeroTHz> My mother has a fabric store and with COVID she has started looking at adding web-shop too
21:31:21 <NeroTHz> but she needs to be able to take consistent, good pictures of all her fabrics now
21:31:39 <NeroTHz> and since fabrics are big and clunky, you can´t just put them in a fully enclosed 50x50x50 cm white softbox
21:31:52 <NeroTHz> so I need to make something that ´opens´ or has one missing face or whatever
21:32:03 <NeroTHz> Ysjoelfir, did you use a flash system, or just continuous lights?
21:34:19 <Ysjoelfir> the latter. I used (remember, back then ;) there were no high CRI LEDs available) 3 1kW (?) halogen that shine against a pure white wall, while my object was under a white bed sheet and on a white matte plastic... thing that I hung on the wall to form a curved back without sharp edges. the pics looked so nice.
21:36:54 <NeroTHz> https://prosteps.cloudimg.io/v7m/resizeinbox/250x343/q90/https://tilroy.s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/234/product/0004585_bars-m-french-terry-balsam-green_300.jpeg
21:37:05 <NeroTHz> I was hoping to make pictures like that of the fabric
21:37:11 <NeroTHz> will just have to see how I do it, because my mother is kinda in a rush
21:37:26 <NeroTHz> might be able to quckly order some high CRI LED modules online today and have them by the weekend though
21:38:32 <Ysjoelfir> that should be no problem I think. there should be enough white fabric for you to built a tent or overhang. You could also use an independant flash placed over that fabric, flashing through it
21:40:54 <NeroTHz> rip, our shipment solderspheres arived empty
21:40:58 <NeroTHz> we got a glass vial with air in it
21:41:02 <NeroTHz> instead of 10k solder spheres
21:41:21 <Ysjoelfir> lol? how can that happen? (whats a solder sphere?)
21:41:45 <NeroTHz> solder sphere or solder ball, the little thing they have on BGA packages
21:42:15 <Ysjoelfir> ah, ok. didn't know you buy them in individual pieces, I thought they come with the ICs
21:42:34 <NeroTHz> well, the people putting them on the ICs needa get them somwhere right? ;p
21:42:46 <clarkos> I thought they were called solder balls.
21:42:47 <Ysjoelfir> you got a point
21:42:58 <NeroTHz> clarkos, indeed, solderballs is also common, but some call them solder spheres
21:43:18 <clarkos> I think they come on bgas but of you're reworking or replacing you need to replace them etc.
21:43:22 <clarkos> If*
21:43:47 <NeroTHz> (and the store selling these to us is called easyspheres)
21:44:02 <Ysjoelfir> call me naive, I would have expected them to form naturally when you eg. "dunk" a nearly done BGA into molten solder
21:44:47 <NeroTHz> there are ways that they can be grown on pads (which is how it is sometimes done with flipchip ICS)
21:45:17 <NeroTHz> but I think they are usually formed by ´dripping´ molten liquid down a shute as they automagically form beads that way due to surface tension
21:46:04 <NeroTHz> and then they are placed with jigs onto packages I think
21:47:12 <Ysjoelfir> that sounds like so much work oO
21:47:50 <NeroTHz> its automated though
21:48:29 <Ysjoelfir> well, everything else would be insane
21:48:53 <NeroTHz> I believe the way it´s done is that you have vats with hundreds of thousands of the spheres, and then the jig has tiny holes for each ball. it is dunked into the vat of spheres, and the jig vacuum-sucks the balls into the holes, and then drops them onto the BGA package (or many many packages at once)
21:49:44 <Ysjoelfir> are they then kind of reflowed, or are they just like.... stuck on there and actually solder the first time in the reflow of the whole pcb?
21:49:51 <NeroTHz> no idea
21:59:35 <Ampera> good morning
21:59:39 <Ampera> tomorrow is friday
21:59:42 <Ampera> only two days more work
21:59:50 <Ampera> then I can pretend I'm dead for two whole days
21:59:58 <Ysjoelfir> yes!
22:00:53 * Ampera hugs Ysjoelfir
22:00:54 <Ampera> hullo
22:01:29 <Ysjoelfir> Hi Ampera
22:01:57 <Ampera> how are you doing
22:03:53 <Ysjoelfir> way better than yesterday, though I am once more annoyed that a company (or better - two) contacted me for a job opportunity and then decided to not answer after I said I'm interested or just don't call when we agreed on a call at time X
22:04:19 <Ampera> bodes well
22:05:16 <Ysjoelfir> absolutely
22:52:56 <electrohead> o/
22:57:15 <Ysjoelfir> hi mr head
22:58:05 <electrohead> hello mr fir :p
23:10:41 <Ampera> good morning electrohead
23:11:37 <coppice> Ysjoelfir: The person who contacted you was probably laid off this morning, and can no longer reply
23:11:49 <Ysjoelfir> probably
23:11:49 <Ampera> hahaha
23:12:00 <Ysjoelfir> or he was just a dickhead, as most personallers are nowadays
23:12:23 <coppice> unfortunately its not a joke. this happens a lot in the early stages of a recession
23:12:41 <Ampera> DEPRESSION DEPRESSION DEPRESSION
23:30:11 Topic Is: Official IRC channel of the EEVblog - www.eevblog.tv
23:30:11 Set By: (ChanOP) on: Fri Jan 24 20:18:35 2020
23:30:12 <rust_collector> I think it is just the cpu itself that is the issue, but who knows...
23:30:12 <rust_collector> it says it overheats, but it is not really warm.
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> I had issues with a first generation ryzen. was very picky with the ram as I found out after i changed to a 2nd gen ryze
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> n
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> yeah, I remember that problem
23:30:12 <rust_collector> it is not the little offset error thing, I think the temp sensor is just broken
23:30:12 <rust_collector> but at least, this time he ordered a proper cooler. which is a new thing. I have tried to tell him to do that for the last few computers, but he would rather have fancy rgb strips inside the case or something...
23:30:12 <Ampera> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
23:30:12 <rust_collector> ahoy!
23:30:12 <Ampera> ahoy hoy
23:30:12 <Ampera> hello is just a handshake code for data transmission over vocal lines between humans
23:30:12 <rust_collector> ok
23:30:12 <rust_collector> well, you can take over here, I have to go outside.
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> thats a pretty decent explaination of why one says hello :P
23:30:12 <EEVBlog> Hello there, Ysjoelfir!
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> Hello EEVBlog!
23:30:12 <Ampera> Ysjoelfir, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPwMOCrNc4M
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> erm.... what the heck did I just watch? oO is that an advert for minecraft 2?
23:30:12 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtCPBcbh1yk
23:30:12 <K> drugs are baad, mkaay
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> thats.... strange o.o
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> but also somehow fascinating :D
23:30:12 <Ampera> I love this guy
23:30:12 <Ampera> he's so fucking fucked in the fucking fuck the fuck in the the and the to the fuck and the fuck
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> yes.
23:30:12 <Ampera> that's offensive Ysjoelfir
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> i know
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> did you enjoy it?
23:30:12 <Ampera> should I just call you Yesjoelfir now?
23:30:12 <Ysjoelfir> no. call me Noelfir
23:30:12 <Ampera> Noelfir?
23:30:12 <Ampera> sounds hot
23:30:12 <steve30> hi
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