// #eevblog — 2020-09-27
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00:01:17 <electrohead> hahaha
00:01:40 <electrohead> so apparently, MIDI isn't all that hard to play with
00:01:52 <electrohead> I thought it would have been more complicated than what I originally thought
00:04:23 <coppice> Ampera: I rented one of those a long time ago
00:05:01 <rust_collector> not many people would admit that
00:05:31 <coppice> The best Buick Regal is the one they used to make in China, which is considerably different
00:06:07 <coppice> rust_collector: you get what the rental place has
00:06:22 <hsn> dear fellows, question of the day .. why there are lots of arduino relay modules with optocoupler driving .. not just a transistor .. that opto has common gnd on its phototransistor side with driving signal anyway
00:06:45 <rust_collector> yes, but as a straight male, I would perhaps wait until they did have a non-penis available
00:06:47 <hsn> is it scam?
00:07:10 <hsn> non penis? where
00:07:53 <rust_collector> coppice said he rented a penis some time ago.
00:09:22 <coppice> I rented a Buick Regal, a car that couldn't be less like a substitute penis
00:11:07 <rust_collector> <Ampera> PENIS
00:11:08 <rust_collector> <electrohead> hahaha
00:11:08 <rust_collector> <electrohead> so apparently, MIDI isn't all that hard to play with
00:11:08 <rust_collector> <electrohead> I thought it would have been more complicated than what I originally thought
00:11:08 <rust_collector> <coppice> Ampera: I rented one of those a long time ago
00:11:20 <rust_collector> well
00:11:38 <electrohead> "10:11:08 *flooddeta+| Channel #eevblog was flooded, you've been detached"
00:11:40 <electrohead> lol
00:12:01 <electrohead> mouse fail?
00:29:47 <T3sl4> electrohead: yeah, MIDI is just serial, pref with optos because grounding is hard
00:30:52 <electrohead> I just need to get a small lot of MIDI 5 pin connectors, and I'll be good to go :)
00:32:31 <coppice> MIDI is strongly associated with a DIN
00:59:44 <T3sl4> MIDI instruments sure can make a din
01:12:55 <coppice> Averaging. What does it mean?
01:13:35 <coppice> Why is the bit between the carriageways the most popular part of a US road?
01:33:08 <rust_collector> probably because of the weird way they vote for stuff there
01:42:24 <T3sl4> coppice is in a weird mode today
01:48:57 <coppice> Why is the average person so mean?
01:53:47 <rust_collector> because they can be
02:01:29 <coppice> Why is it so hard to stay on the right side of the most popular? I see signs all over US highways saying "Don't Cross the Median".
03:34:50 <DHess_US> https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2020/09/how-a-hacker-turned-a-250-coffee-maker-into-ransom-machine/
03:36:29 <DHess_US> <T3sl4> electrohead: yeah, MIDI is just serial, pref with optos because grounding is hard
03:37:00 <DHess_US> group loops in audio equipment are discouraged for good reason. USB and Firewire audio have this problem in spades.
03:37:25 <DHess_US> MIDI is one of the few examples of a standard which got things very right.
03:38:13 <T3sl4> USB in general, no one actually knows how to use the shield
03:38:16 <DHess_US> For the same reason, Ethernet > USB for test instruments.
03:38:31 <DHess_US> Even without the shield, it still has a ground wire.
03:39:21 <DHess_US> USB works fine for audio if every audio device is isolated from every other device.
03:39:38 <DHess_US> Which is what it was intended for.
03:39:46 <T3sl4> it's embarassing too how no one in audio ever thinks to use coax differentially
03:39:56 <DHess_US> Ha, I've done that.
03:40:01 <DHess_US> I've done better than that.
03:41:02 <DHess_US> Had a massive problem with ground loops in an audio system so I changed one of the line out drivers to drive a current, and then I put a shunt resistor at the other end to ground and only connected the shield one one side. Problem solved.
03:41:42 <DHess_US> Ground moving around? Just make the load follow it.
03:42:01 <DHess_US> Sone that on some precision DC circuit layouts also.
03:42:30 <T3sl4> current loops are a funny thing. they're prone to all the same problems, but to deal with them you have to think reciprocally. it's hard enough getting people to think about voltages right as it is.
03:43:21 <DHess_US> Sure, signaling with current isn't a panacea, but where it works it sure works.
03:43:51 <DHess_US> It's also a good way to make ground referred high side current sensing without a difference amplifier.
03:45:22 <DHess_US> Better audio equipment uses remote sensing on single ended inputs.
03:45:43 <T3sl4> it's a good solution, when suitable
03:45:58 <DHess_US> Sure, what I did could be used with *any* system.
03:46:14 <DHess_US> Or rather implemented remote sense from the source side.
03:46:39 <DHess_US> Which I do not think I have ever seen used in real designs except very old stuff and not for audio.
03:48:37 * electrohead waves
03:50:10 * T3sl4 particles at electrohead
03:50:17 <electrohead> :P
03:50:24 <electrohead> hi DHess_US
03:51:56 <electrohead> I do wonder if DHess_US will ever say hi back
03:52:10 * electrohead unplugs his monitor and runs
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03:53:17 <T3sl4> How many licks to the center of a DHess Pop? The world may never know.
03:53:28 <T3sl4> Damn, that commercial was old when DHess_US was growing up, i'll bet
03:58:12 <electrohead> heh, I remember that commerical
03:58:43 <electrohead> for all I know, he blocked me for whatever reason
03:59:15 <electrohead> well, wait, he saw that message earlier, so ok
04:02:15 <electrohead> https://vigrey.com/blog/iss-tracker-for-nes
04:02:18 <electrohead> that's pretty neat
04:21:26 <DHess_US> T3sl4, maybe not
04:22:11 <DHess_US> 1982? So not old when I was growing up.
04:22:28 <DHess_US> Oh, wait, 1969, yep, old.
04:22:53 <DHess_US> I probably saw that commercial on a black and white TV.
04:31:24 <electrohead> Hey, is it something I've said in the past? I'm just trying to be kind and say hello, that's all =\
05:20:01 <DHess_US> https://twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1309846887575425027
05:26:27 * electrohead solders all of DHess_US's resistors together :p
05:26:29 <T3sl4> scott adams has been in yikesville for years
05:26:52 <electrohead> I had to look up who that is
05:28:17 <rust_collector> hmm, that would be an interesting experiment
05:33:09 <T3sl4> DHess_US, https://np.reddit.com/r/AskConservatives/comments/izwhg0/why_do_so_many_conservatives_value_conformity/g6mt85n/?context=3
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06:48:44 <hsn> hi evrryone
06:49:08 <hsn> bye everyone
06:50:42 <rust_collector> night hsn
06:51:09 <hsn> night bight
06:55:27 <T3sl4> o/
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08:54:57 <rust_collector> yeees! memtest is the best game
09:01:37 <Halcyon> Morning all
09:01:53 <rust_collector> moin
09:02:27 <rust_collector> is anything fun happening down there?
09:02:40 <Halcyon> Just woke up and made a coffee
09:02:48 <Halcyon> I guess that can be considered fun?
09:02:52 <rust_collector> YAAAY!!!
09:02:56 <Halcyon> How about you?
09:03:15 <rust_collector> I have been up all day, and still drink coffee, so pretty much the same
09:03:55 <rust_collector> I am messing with kid #3s old laptop. bios things are so annoying, lol
09:04:17 <rust_collector> running memtest right now, so that is fun
09:06:07 <rust_collector> the reason she does not use it, is that the wifi does not work. it seems to work, but no, it does not. it is a bit weird
09:07:41 <Halcyon> Heheh
09:07:55 <Halcyon> It is an old laptop?
09:08:07 <rust_collector> it is... not ancient, but sort of
09:08:19 <rust_collector> I guess it is 3 or 4 years
09:08:24 <Halcyon> Does the WiFi seem to connect but no data transfer?
09:08:28 <Halcyon> Hmm it's not that old
09:08:30 <rust_collector> yes
09:09:15 <Halcyon> Yeh I've had that issue before on old NICs connecting to newer access points. Some don't support some of the extensions. You can try manually changing the WiFi mode on the NIC to for 802.11g or n or something.
09:09:28 <Halcyon> Sometimes that "fixes" it
09:09:41 <rust_collector> hmm, yes, that is a thing, I guess
09:10:03 <Halcyon> The other thing is, if you are using a wider channel width than default on your WiFi router, the NIC might not support that either
09:10:47 <rust_collector> it is probably an older design card, as it does not see the 5(?) wifi thing, just the 2.4
09:11:50 <Halcyon> Yep that might have something to do with it. See what modes you have in the adapter properties
09:12:52 <rust_collector> I will just let this memtest do its thing, and maybe look at it tomorrow. I should maybe find more ram for it too, as I might put windows on it.
09:13:18 <Halcyon> Oh it's not running Windows?
09:14:02 <rust_collector> not at the moment, no
09:14:18 <rust_collector> it had winders 8.1
09:14:51 <Halcyon> *shudders*
09:16:35 <rust_collector> yes, talking about that... yesterday, I put KDE on the stinkpad
09:19:17 <rust_collector> I am also looking at the desktop on the table... or the half of it that is left
09:19:46 <rust_collector> there is something wrong with either the motherboard, or cpu... I don't know which.
09:20:04 <rust_collector> I sort of feel it is the mb.
09:20:15 <Halcyon> A faulty CPU would be highly unusual. I've never seen a single Intel CPU fail.
09:20:27 <rust_collector> it is an amd
09:20:37 <Halcyon> Oh well then anything is possible :P
09:20:42 <rust_collector> right
09:20:54 <Halcyon> Even still, CPUs generally don't fail
09:20:57 <rust_collector> interesting thing is that this laptop is also an amd...
09:21:31 <rust_collector> Well, this machine has always had issues. I dunno, but yes, I sort of think i tis the motherboard
09:22:35 <Halcyon> Is it a cheap Chinese boarD?
09:22:45 <rust_collector> it says it overheats, but as far as I can see, or feel, it does not seem to really be very hot. but it is tricky to feel the cpu
09:22:55 <rust_collector> nah, let me see what it is
09:25:01 <rust_collector> rog strix b450-f gaming, it says. I do not think it is super cheap
09:25:33 <Halcyon> Nah they are an Asus board. Not too bad.
09:28:48 <rust_collector> but we reused the power and ram and graphics card, so I would have to add that too. I dunno? it is a nice enough box. otoh, I have too many confusers already
09:29:00 <Halcyon> Heh
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09:45:09 <rust_collector> arrgh, secure boot things
09:45:20 <Halcyon> Hehe yep, annoying
09:58:52 <Ampera> hi Halcyon
09:58:54 <Ampera> how do
10:00:39 * electrohead peeks in
10:01:35 * Ampera hugs electrohead
10:01:36 <Ampera> <3
10:01:41 * electrohead hugs back
10:01:57 <Ampera> pharmacy only gave me half the drugs I need for HRT, so I'll have to go back and inquire about the other ones
10:02:20 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
10:02:26 <Ampera> hi Halcyon how do
10:02:30 <Ampera> wanna call?
10:02:31 <Halcyon> Meh, tired
10:02:32 <Halcyon> Sure
10:04:33 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Retweet: LBRY 📚 ⚖️ 📣: Google banned LBRY Android from the Playstore without warning and for contrived reasons. This video details their exact communications, reasoning, and hypocrisy. We believe we are being targeted due to big creators fleeing YouTube for LBRY. Please share 🙏 https://t.co/0lazG4Ysem
10:22:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Louis Rossmann fans will know what this is about: https://t.co/gFdAgeSyaZ https://t.co/8tClLEQU1L
10:36:07 <Halcyon> Did I miss something in that Louis Rossmann mug?
10:36:59 <rust_collector> I have no idea
10:49:52 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The old lab is back! https://t.co/sziC3DfgLa
10:50:22 <MrMobodies> Hello
10:50:22 <EEVBlog> Hello there, MrMobodies!
10:50:32 <MrMobodies> I am bit concerned about something
10:51:31 <MrMobodies> Have I broke any rules in the Joke thread?
10:51:33 <MrMobodies> https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/engineering-jokes/225/
10:51:37 <rust_collector> hi you
10:51:56 <MrMobodies> it is a joke thread and I found that funny
10:52:01 <MrMobodies> and someone mentioned
10:52:19 <MrMobodies> PM sent.
10:52:36 <MrMobodies> I am not sure what that means, personal message, moderator message
10:53:00 <MrMobodies> No messages from Ed konk
10:53:03 <rust_collector> meh, stop worrying about that.
10:54:25 <rust_collector> it could be that he said that as a joke. sending you instructions on how to use that on freshly laundered kittens
10:59:50 <MrMobodies> Okay so there's no trouble. I do get paranoid from time to time.
11:00:13 <rust_collector> I have noticed that. but that is fine
11:08:26 <Halcyon> I don't see the issue MrMobodies
11:08:43 <Halcyon> What made you think you did anything wrong?
11:09:21 <Halcyon> PM = Private message --- Maybe Ed Kloonk forgot to hit send? *shrug*
11:11:46 <DHess_US> MrMobodies, I'll trade you, https://aviationhumor.net/atc-quotes/
11:25:52 <MrMobodies> Hello just had something eat and brushed my teeth
11:25:58 <MrMobodies> Oh good no issue
11:26:35 <MrMobodies> I always assume the worst, like everyone is against me, so I try to be calm.
11:26:46 <MrMobodies> it is a irrational fear
11:27:04 <MrMobodies> it seems happens when I don't understand things.
11:27:54 <MrMobodies> I sent Ed Konk a message, confirming if a message was sent, and if so maybe a board problem.
11:28:42 <MrMobodies> I like this one in that link: Tower: Cessna 310, that taxiway is approved for single engine use only.
11:28:42 <MrMobodies> Pilot: Roger, shutting down one engine.
11:30:01 <MrMobodies> Sorry about all of that, there is something not right with the way I think and it has taken me many years to realise.
11:30:07 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I'm LIVE now in the old lab https://t.co/fn03yUpTTs
11:31:14 <rust_collector> I also think in a different way to some other people, but I figured that out some time ago.
11:32:25 <DHess_US> Lol, watching latest The Boys and it has the .50 BMG rifle that Ian just reviewed. They put an aluminum cover of the receiver to hide the name.
11:33:06 <MrMobodies> oh, why would they need to hide the name?
11:33:28 <MrMobodies> something to hide of course...
11:33:48 <rust_collector> bmg rifle should be... efficient at making holes in things
11:34:50 <MrMobodies> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.50_BMG
11:34:54 <MrMobodies> seems pretty powerful
11:35:12 <rust_collector> it is
11:35:50 <MrMobodies> so efficient it is still in use from the 1920's
11:36:15 <rust_collector> and you get all sorts of "special" ammunition for that
11:36:49 <rust_collector> the one I had in the army was stamped "ac delco spark plug division"
11:37:55 <DHess_US> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXD3AIyo99Q
11:37:56 <MrMobodies> is there one that releases a large explosion on impact?, yes "Cartridge, caliber .50, armor piercing explosive incendiary (APEI), Mk 169 Mod 2
11:37:57 <MrMobodies> "
11:38:15 <DHess_US> Serbu BFG-50A
11:39:29 <DHess_US> It is common to remove company names so as to not advertise. I just don't remember seeing it done with a rifle.
11:40:47 <DHess_US> Huh, I like this company, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serbu_Firearms#Controversy
11:41:39 <MrMobodies> aaaah protests
11:42:09 <MrMobodies> from groups against firearms
11:42:16 <Ampera> hahaha
11:43:01 <DHess_US> Haha, and someone who runs the show is DMCAing pages which link the show to the rifle.
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13:40:30 <Halcyon> Lawn is all mowed
13:55:22 <steve30> hi
13:55:26 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
14:02:08 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! eevBLAB #81: Google BANNED LBRY Android App from Play Store https://t.co/Rtbsj9aeCC
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14:16:30 <Halcyon> Is anyone here good at drawing?
14:23:25 <gremlinz> i can draw dicks on vehicles rear dirty windows
14:24:02 <Halcyon> Hahahaha well I'm basically after someone who can do a line drawing of a thing from a photo, so your cock and balls skills might be handy?
15:15:13 <hsn> i have no .. hmm patient to draw ..
15:15:22 <hsn> i guess if i have .. i would be good
15:16:50 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/JaBlL3QwbH/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
15:17:17 <hsn> https://www.instagram.com/p/Kc-yUswwdp/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
15:17:22 <hsn> ^ Halcyon
15:19:38 <Halcyon> Those are really good
15:19:52 <Halcyon> Although what I need will probably take 5 minutes :P If you're able to help?
15:20:55 <hsn> if u think i can .. but i dont but go ahead :D
15:21:13 <hsn> as these where long time ago as well :P so dont rise ur expectations
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15:50:27 <Oberweis> now i come and bother to ask for a future proof power supply
15:51:48 <Halcyon> Very generic
15:51:55 <Halcyon> Future-proof in what way?
15:52:02 <Oberweis> uhh
15:52:09 <Oberweis> well, one that will last me a long time
15:52:13 <Oberweis> high quality
15:52:18 <Halcyon> As in a lab bench PSU ?
15:52:22 <Oberweis> bought this cheap 30V 10A from ebay
15:52:32 <Oberweis> cant even put banana plugs into sockets
15:52:39 <Oberweis> so now I gotta waste my time returning it
15:52:54 <Oberweis> yeah sure, maybe entry level lab bench
15:53:44 <Halcyon> Well just buy a well-known brand?
15:54:02 <Halcyon> You buy cheap shit from China, you're going to get cheap-shit reliability and performance
15:54:10 <Oberweis> yep
15:54:23 <Oberweis> i was recommended that garbage from an old colleague
15:54:30 <Oberweis> from work
15:54:37 <Oberweis> but he likes to be cheap
15:54:50 <Oberweis> and i gave into advice lel
15:55:09 <Oberweis> but alright ill accept suggestions if you have any
15:55:10 <Oberweis> etc
15:57:57 <Halcyon> I'm sure Dave does a bunch of videos on PSUs
15:58:04 <Halcyon> It's going to come down to how much you want to pay
16:07:14 <Oberweis> maybe you heard of a good one? xD
16:09:37 <Halcyon> T3sl4 would be your man
16:10:04 <Halcyon> I mean brand name alone doesn't always mean quality, but you can almost bet if you go with the better known stuff, you're going to get decent build quality and components.
16:10:34 <Oberweis> yeah
16:10:40 <Oberweis> its just like a word of mouth kinda thing
16:11:01 <Oberweis> just like this whole 3080/3090 business
16:11:06 <Oberweis> the manufacturer hypes the product
16:11:15 <Oberweis> but consumers experience it/review it
16:11:28 <Oberweis> the graphics cards etc
16:28:15 <Oberweis> https://www.rohde-schwarz.com/us/product/nge100b-productstartpage_63493-576967.html
16:30:13 <Oberweis> https://www.tek.com/pws2000-dc-power-supply
16:30:23 <Oberweis> https://www.tek.com/tektronix-and-keithley-dc-power-supplies/keithley-2220-2230-2231-series
16:33:44 <Oberweis> https://www.bkprecision.com/products/power-supplies/9104-320w-multi-range-84v-10a-dc-power-supply.html
16:34:29 <Oberweis> https://www.bkprecision.com/products/power-supplies/1902B-1-60-v-15-a-switching-dc-power-supply.html
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17:12:34 <hsn> im from canada
17:12:35 <hsn> ?
17:12:48 <hsn> mornigng Ysjoelfir Oberweis and T3sl4
17:13:34 <Watcher> morning hsn
17:13:40 <hsn> o/
17:13:52 <hsn> hope u nice day Watcher
17:14:58 <Watcher> a the moment it is early in the morning so every thing works out good to this moment
17:17:21 <hsn> i hope it stays at early morning ..
17:18:34 <Watcher> way if the dayplanning continues as to this point it will by a good day.
17:24:35 <Oberweis> do you guys know if anyone streams electronics design anywhere>?
17:24:44 <Oberweis> i think imma do that
17:38:43 <hsn> Oberweis, meaning ?
17:39:06 <hsn> Oberweis, like this : https://www.youtube.com/c/EEforEveryone ?
17:39:38 <Oberweis> like live streaming
17:39:45 <Oberweis> interacting with the person etc
17:39:45 <hsn> he has few live
17:39:49 <Oberweis> ahh ok
17:39:50 <Oberweis> ill sub
17:39:51 <Oberweis> thx
17:40:50 <hsn> oh .. most of his live is actually lab stuff
17:41:01 <hsn> https://youtu.be/mlE2DqaQMD4
17:42:11 <Oberweis> ok ty ty
17:44:25 <Oberweis> what would be the main reason someone chooses to stream on youtube vs twitch? I guess youtube is more general purpose and twitch more gaming related?
17:45:58 <hsn> in my opinion yes .. i think twitch is for bunch of people who use their time wrong so i hate it :D ..
17:46:47 <hsn> i also think good reason will be suggestion system
17:47:10 <hsn> people who follow EE ppl .. might get ur video as suggestion ... ? "might"* .. .
17:54:53 <hsn> https://youtu.be/8ajM3kkKwNs
17:55:00 <hsn> eevBLAB #81: Google BANNED LBRY Android App from Play Store
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18:20:15 <Oberweis> https://www.ebay.com/itm/173644562214
18:20:19 <Oberweis> just bought this guy
18:20:26 <Oberweis> seems like a decent kit
18:20:46 <Oberweis> next I buy... dc power supply...
18:25:23 <hsn> https://youtu.be/aPC_h9Vmlxw ---- World First - Skydiver Luke Aikins Jumps 25000 Feet Into Net With No Parachute
18:25:45 <Oberweis> bot?
18:26:23 <hsn> me?
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18:40:20 <Oberweis> yeah
18:40:28 <Oberweis> nvm im noob at irc
18:40:47 <Watcher> the onluy bot i now in this irc is eevblog
18:44:58 <hsn> Oberweis, but im a smart bot .. stupid human ..
18:46:36 <hsn> Watcher, if u say "hsn_cowsay MSG" .. u will know .. :D
18:47:00 <Watcher> hsn_cowsay MSG
18:47:00 <hsn> .______
18:47:00 <hsn> < MSG >
18:47:00 <hsn> ------
18:47:00 <hsn> . \ ^__^
18:47:00 <hsn> . \ (oo)\______
18:47:00 <hsn> . (__)\ )\/\
18:47:00 <hsn> . ||------w |
18:47:00 <hsn> . || ||
18:47:27 <hsn> i've to turn it off..
18:47:35 <Watcher> is the ascii a cow?
18:47:48 <hsn> yes
18:47:55 <hsn> wierd one
18:48:03 <Oberweis> hsn_cowsay MSG
18:48:09 <Oberweis> rip
18:48:27 <Oberweis> https://www.bkprecision.com/products/power-supplies/1666-1-40v-5a-switching-dc-power-supply.html
18:48:36 <Oberweis> I think I found a good power supply
18:48:43 <Oberweis> or decent one at least
18:48:52 <hsn> Watcher, it should look like this : https://snipboard.io/f1sbBY.jpg
18:49:15 <hsn> but i think it looks like : https://snipboard.io/xJGyTs.jpg ?
18:49:20 <Oberweis> theres bk precision
18:49:22 <Oberweis> tektronix
18:49:23 <hsn> i cant see it btw ..
18:49:29 <Oberweis> and rhode and shawards
18:49:35 <Oberweis> any other name brands?
18:49:59 <hsn> Oberweis, siglent
18:50:12 <Oberweis> ty
18:50:14 <Oberweis> rigol too..
18:50:28 <Oberweis> idk, i saw daves review on a rigol scope
18:50:29 <hsn> https://youtu.be/mdOauVzY9OU
18:50:35 <Oberweis> seems like rigol is pretty cheat
18:50:37 <Oberweis> cheap
18:50:37 <hsn> EEVblog #828 - Siglent SPD3303X Precision Lab PSU Teardown
18:50:50 <Oberweis> yeah i was watching that one too
18:51:22 <Watcher> if you need a lab bench psu way not build one from a atx pc power supply?
18:51:24 <Oberweis> did not like how the banan plugs didnt fit snug
18:51:42 <hsn> i actually have this one but didnt know dave made video of it
18:51:45 <Watcher> parts are $10 and second hands atx supply also
18:52:00 <Oberweis> is there a tut somewhere
18:52:05 <Oberweis> did he make one?
18:52:32 <hsn> sorry Oberweis i was talking about Siglent SPD3303X
18:52:38 <Watcher> Oberweis, the plug you need good quality and there are plenty of tutorials
18:52:57 <Oberweis> i guess
18:53:08 <Oberweis> I kinda just wanna have a lab bench power supply
18:53:09 <hsn> Oberweis, for ATX .. there are lots of tutorials ..
18:53:13 <Oberweis> im willing to spend the money
18:53:27 <Oberweis> the atx would def be a cool project
18:53:37 <hsn> just gnd the green wire .. connect small dummy load .. and there u got 3v3 5v 12v stuff ..
18:53:41 <Oberweis> ill have to figure that one later
18:53:48 <Watcher> https://www.instructables.com/id/DIY-Lab-Bench-Power-Supply/
18:53:52 Quit: Lord_of_nothing ([email protected]) Quit: Give a man a fish and he will eat for a day. Teach him how to fish, and he will sit in a boat and drink beer all day
18:53:54 <hsn> and u can put some VA meter .. buck boost ..
18:54:46 <Oberweis> thx for the link
18:54:53 <Oberweis> I am trying to get a high quality one
18:54:54 <Watcher> and even a cheap chinese power meter in a extranel case where you put the atx in
18:55:01 <Oberweis> I dont really want to deal with inconveniences
18:55:15 <Oberweis> but i bookmarked it
18:55:18 <Oberweis> ty ty.
18:55:27 <Watcher> and if you need morre than 1000watt make a second or buy a server power supply
18:55:40 <Oberweis> yeah its just a started supply
18:55:48 <Oberweis> to do some breadboard work
18:55:54 <Oberweis> and design or whatevs
18:55:57 <Oberweis> gotta start somewheree
18:55:59 <Oberweis> im engineer
18:56:12 <Oberweis> but i dont get to learn this stuff at work =[
18:56:21 <Oberweis> so I gotta change my hobbies
18:56:25 <Oberweis> aka stop playing vidya
18:56:54 <hsn> where u live Oberweis ?
19:00:17 <Oberweis> cali
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19:00:28 <Oberweis> silly valley
19:00:29 <Oberweis> xD
19:00:50 <Oberweis> i mean i live where all the design stuff happens
19:01:08 <Oberweis> but its not like I can just get a yobbie that does component level designm
19:01:11 <Oberweis> I mean I CAN
19:01:14 <Oberweis> but its competitive
19:01:20 <Oberweis> so gg
19:01:33 <Oberweis> I wanna do my own stuff anyways
19:01:49 <hsn> i live where no design stuff happens .. and its challanging :D
19:02:18 <hsn> i want to buy aluminum profile v-slot .. cant get it shipped from china
19:03:23 <Oberweis> rip ailibaba
19:03:39 <clarkos> Why can't you get it shipped?
19:04:26 <hsn> clarkos, 3 times the suppliers cancel order or i get refund
19:04:32 <Oberweis> https://www.bkprecision.com/products/power-supplies/1666-1-40v-5a-switching-dc-power-supply.html
19:04:38 <Oberweis> i think ill just get this guy...
19:04:52 <clarkos> Why they cancelling?
19:04:58 <Oberweis> ive been putting too much effort on getting a supply that has two channels lmao
19:05:08 <hsn> they just say "we cant ship to your country"
19:05:29 <clarkos> :(
19:06:40 <Oberweis> hmm
19:06:50 <Oberweis> how much current is too much current for hobbyist
19:06:57 <Oberweis> im guessing 5A
19:07:07 <Oberweis> or 5A is already overkill?
19:07:41 <hsn> clarkos, https://snipboard.io/LqlKXt.jpg this guy told me he can ship to my country .. i made order .. after 40 days i discover failure in shipping
19:07:46 <hsn> and get refunded
19:08:18 <hsn> 2020.07.10 19:11 (GMT-7): Airline handover failure
19:08:18 <hsn> 2020.07.10 16:44 (GMT-7): Shipment accepted by airline
19:08:18 <hsn> 2020.07.09 18:28 (GMT-7): Shipment left country of origin warehouse
19:08:37 <hsn> that was 60$
19:09:54 <clarkos> Ouch.
19:09:58 <clarkos> That sucks.
19:11:09 <hsn> what sucks is that its not available locally :D
19:11:48 <hsn> i think if i start importing them and selling them on university ppl they can do better prototypes ... i can make some profit
19:19:55 <Oberweis> sooo
19:20:00 <Oberweis> after doing a ton of research
19:20:19 <Oberweis> https://www.bkprecision.com/products/power-supplies/1666-1-40v-5a-switching-dc-power-supply.html
19:20:25 <Oberweis> this is the best power supply for me
19:20:46 <Oberweis> 0-30V 0-5A 1 output 296$
19:21:20 <Oberweis> and good quality not garbage
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19:23:44 <Oberweis> alrighty dennnn
19:23:48 <Oberweis> me sleeping
19:23:54 <Oberweis> i shall post a ton of music
19:23:57 <Oberweis> like 5 songs
19:24:02 <Oberweis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkgzObf8uVU
19:24:21 <Oberweis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkVxlK8Qt50
19:24:32 <Oberweis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDUFFT143io
19:24:48 <Oberweis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EElU3TpKCs
19:25:05 <Oberweis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgYKQmzAXcw
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19:25:09 <Oberweis> enjoy and thanks for the help
19:25:10 <Oberweis> <3
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19:25:48 <steve30> o/
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19:30:42 <Oberweis> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAc5C14ZY8A
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19:39:50 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
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19:50:01 <steve30> hi Halcyon
19:50:09 <Halcyon> How is your day going?
19:50:14 <steve30> I had a nice cosy lie in this morning:)
19:50:32 <Halcyon> You are such a house cat :P
19:51:01 <hsn> u lied steve30 ?
19:51:44 <hsn> steve30, https://images.app.goo.gl/xidSDixcTNQoBHnU7 ^
19:54:36 <hsn> this happen to me everytime i lie :D
19:54:58 <steve30> hehe
20:02:21 <steve30> I should probably go out on the bike later
20:06:58 <hsn> this indian / pakistani people making english title videos and mixture inside is very annoying
20:07:34 <hsn> youtube should implement a bot to flag them
20:27:35 <rust_collector> hsn, why are you being mean to the indians? they already stole the video, and now you expect them to translate all of the speech also?
20:28:09 <hsn> no .. i respect the ones they put (hindi) on the title
20:28:25 <hsn> or (hindi mix)
20:29:04 <coppice> have you tried typing devanagari? It's much easier to type english
20:30:00 <hsn> coppice, they can still type (english title etc etc [hindi])
20:33:38 <rust_collector> otoh, some of the "best" videos I have seen have been in some language I don't even know a single word in. but they still managed to explain some things.
20:37:00 <hsn> im not against the english title ... im saying it would be nice to write the title like this (how this thing work etc etc ... [language])
20:37:58 <hsn> its not my idea i've seen lots of indians doing it ... but others just put english title .. and the begining ot video is english .. but then in middle he start mixing indian words and switch whole sentences
20:38:11 <rust_collector> I get what you say. you do not like tig welding with coathanger wire, and you do not like indians
20:39:11 <hsn> no rusty we are all humans arent we ? but i guess topics i search [computer science] has lots of indian content
20:39:19 <rust_collector> yes
20:39:43 <hsn> which is good
20:40:06 <rust_collector> I might not agree that all kinds of people are the same race, but, in theory at the moment
20:40:56 <hsn> well .. yes different people have different mind set .. attitude .. behaviours etc ..
20:41:25 <hsn> but i mean i dont have bad feeling towards any race i guess .. :D
20:41:44 <rust_collector> that is nice
20:43:45 <hsn> https://youtu.be/JKe53bcyBQY --- Elon Musk’s Neuralink Puts An AI Into Your Brain! 🧠
20:44:01 <rust_collector> no it does not
20:44:43 <hsn> why
20:45:10 <rust_collector> because it does not get close to my brain.
20:45:47 <rust_collector> mr head can have mine, have fun
20:46:14 <hsn> it does through 5g
20:46:15 <hsn> :D
20:46:40 <rust_collector> aah, death beams! yes, maybe I should try one
20:51:31 <coppice> hsn: all I've seen the Neuralink people talk about is things people have been doing for decades
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20:52:01 <coppice> hsn: well, when they get down to details. when they talk in grand terms it sounds fantastic
20:52:23 <rust_collector> it does?
20:52:40 <hsn> coppice its annoying to take what others have done over years and give credit to one man ? is that what u mean ?
20:52:41 <rust_collector> maybe I should look up something about it
20:53:49 <coppice> hsn: I mean the solid stuff they talk about is merely making silicon to integrate old work. when they talk about how amazing its all going to be they are talking about a massive leap into the dark
20:54:31 <coppice> actually, we don't know if they have made actual silicon. they might still be using off the shelf dies
20:55:01 <hsn> hmmm
20:55:03 <rust_collector> I hope they have ordered the thing from ebay, under some obscure name
20:55:51 <rust_collector> anti barking collar module, with new software
20:59:46 <coppice> people got excited quite a long time ago by experimental stimulation of the brain to give sight to the blind. the initial work, just like neuralink's, give them interesting results. trying to move on from something very basic to something more useful seems to have had them bogged down ever since. its important work, but we are so far from understanding more than the more simplistic parts of brain function I'm pretty sure it will take a long tim
20:59:48 <coppice> reach useful products
21:03:20 <rust_collector> and if you have mr musk testing that, and it does not go as planned, you might end up in space....
21:04:57 <hsn> https://youtu.be/BHiWygziyso?t=390
21:05:00 <hsn> World's Largest Devil's Toothpaste Explosion
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21:19:43 * T3sl4 drowns hsn in 666 m^3 of foam
21:24:13 <hsn> lol my pc is beeping !
21:24:29 <hsn> what did u do T3sl4
21:26:47 * T3sl4 looks innocent
21:27:25 Quit: MRiddickW ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
21:44:15 <hsn> T3sl4, did u use static analyser for c code ?
21:44:36 <T3sl4> no
21:45:49 <hsn> u need to be linted
21:47:09 * T3sl4 clangs hsn on the head
21:48:08 * hsn gets llvm and sends fireballs
21:50:54 <hsn> does anyone know where is Ysjoelfir ?
21:53:27 <rust_collector> he is in hospital, as swmbo got tired of him always tinkering with other things than her. Is my guess
21:55:30 <hsn> hospital part is true?
21:56:57 <rust_collector> If the second part is true, then maybe?
21:57:21 <rust_collector> but I doubt it
21:59:11 <hsn> cant i just close my eye and open again to get another weekend
21:59:54 <rust_collector> sure
22:03:08 <hsn> rust_collector, u should try this barber shop
22:05:00 <hsn> https://hsn93.com/www/WhatsApp%20Video%202020-09-27%20at%201.21.51%20PM.mp4
22:07:44 <hsn> he provide good face massage i think
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22:10:47 <electrohead> o/
22:11:01 <rust_collector> hi mr head
22:13:06 <hsn> \0
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22:19:56 * T3sl4 hugs head
22:20:23 * T3sl4 polymorphs electrohead into a pig
22:20:26 <T3sl4> hogshead too!
22:21:24 <electrohead> lol :P
22:21:29 <electrohead> hey guys :)
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23:08:45 <rust_collector> Ysjoelfir, https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.html?finnkode=192857526
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