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01:51:30 <Nothing\> man i just found out some unhappy news
01:51:41 <Nothing\> apparntely chuck peddle died a couple of weeks ago :(
01:53:03 <rust_collector> well, it looks like he did get to live for some time
01:53:23 <Nothing\> yeah he was 82 or something like that
01:53:35 <rust_collector> that is not too bad
01:54:01 <Nothing\> not exactly a young guy, but still you figure if there are still WWII vets alive telling their stories people who worked on semiconductors in the 60s and 70s should stick around for a good while
01:54:34 <Ampera> Hi Nothing\
01:54:38 <Nothing\> hey Ampera how you doing?
01:54:44 <Ampera> I am on three hours of sleep, hbu
01:54:52 <Nothing\> 6 hours here
01:54:58 <rust_collector> sleep?
01:54:59 <Nothing\> well, probably less but close enough
01:55:06 <Nothing\> yeah, 6 hours of sleep
01:55:10 <Ampera> if we add our sleep together, we might get a normal person out of the both of us :P
01:55:37 <Nothing\> lol i'm too restless to sleep normally for some reason, it's like trying to get a child to sleep some nights
01:56:20 <Ampera> the issue is I've been sleeping on an unnatural schedule
01:56:25 <Nothing\> for some reason my brain wants to do all of my math learning just before bed, so i get all wound up, i'll try to go to bed only to think of something i wanna look up, so i'll come back downstairs and do that, or add to a list of things
01:56:32 <Ampera> without a reason to get up my sleep schedule eats shit
01:56:41 <Nothing\> yeah me too, i usually go to bed around 6am and get up around 3 or 4pm
01:56:58 <rust_collector> I still wonder if maybe I am made in a way that I should sleep for most of one day, then be awake for 2 days, then sleep most of one day again...
01:57:07 <Nothing\> which is typical of me during the winter, i tend to sleep with such a schedule that i go for days or weeks without seeing sunlight
01:57:36 <Nothing\> lol rust_collector i've wondered the same thing, apparently there is an actual condition where your circadian rhythm doesn't stick to 24 hours
01:57:55 <rust_collector> yeah, I think there is something there
01:58:26 <Nothing\> i've often wondered if i went somewhere like pakistan or india with a large time zone difference if i'd still sleep backwards or if i'd stick to a normal schedule
01:58:57 <Nothing\> it's annoying though, i can be completely exhausted and fighting sleep all day, but as soon as night comes around i'm wide awake
01:59:14 <rust_collector> If I went to west bengal, I would just be annoyed by their +5.5 hour timezone
01:59:35 <rust_collector> I tend to wake up around 10pm
02:00:10 <Nothing\> i've been watching a lot of travel videos from india lately, a nice side effect is i seem to be picking up some phrases in hindi which is cool cuz previously i didn't know a single word in hindi
02:00:29 <rust_collector> well, why the hell would you?
02:01:02 <rust_collector> you have been watching mr bald again?
02:01:06 <Nothing\> there are a lot of indian people around here, especially in the city i used to live, kitchener/waterloo i even lived with several different indian people over the years
02:01:09 <Nothing\> haha yeah that too
02:01:38 <Nothing\> i lived with a persian guy for a while too, when i rented a room
02:01:38 <rust_collector> I like him, but I did skip most of his stuff about india
02:01:52 <Nothing\> i did too initially, but it's actually pretty good
02:02:00 <Nothing\> doesn't exactly make me wanna go there though
02:02:10 <rust_collector> sure, I am just not very interested in india
02:02:13 <Nothing\> apparently he got spat on accidentally quite a bit cuz they'll just spit without looking
02:02:24 <Nothing\> yeah i never was either, but it's certainly piqued my interest
02:02:33 <Ampera> I'm linuxing my mom's computer
02:02:50 <Nothing\> lol Ampera when i was married my ex used to complain any time i put linux on the computer
02:03:12 <rust_collector> I did my first install of syslinux, that works, to other day
02:03:21 <Nothing\> i'm actually considering getting a computer, i got some money for xmas so i can afford a low end one that i can upgrade as i get funds for it
02:03:41 <Nothing\> rust_collector: it's not too hard, at least with redhat it wasn't
02:03:53 <Nothing\> about the same difficulty as installing xp
02:04:07 <rust_collector> no, it is not, but you have to figure out how and what
02:04:32 <Nothing\> what distro did you use?
02:04:41 <rust_collector> antix, so debian
02:04:45 <Nothing\> i don't even know what distro's popular anymore, ubuntu? debian?
02:04:52 <Ampera> the answer is many
02:04:56 <Ampera> I use Arch myself
02:05:01 <rust_collector> we know, lol
02:05:04 <Nothing\> i tried ubuntu once and i thought it was garbage, at least the unity interface was. it felt like something steve jobs would make
02:05:07 * Ampera pisses on rust_collector
02:06:03 <Nothing\> oh, apparently there's a new c64 clone on the market, at least in the UK. called the C64 maxi
02:06:12 <Nothing\> i just watched 8 bit guy review it last night
02:06:13 <rust_collector> Well, I did this install, just because I wanted to try having a persistent live usb, just without the usb.
02:06:36 <rust_collector> not sure why, but it works
02:06:48 <Nothing\> it seems promising, it actually lets you boot into c64 basic, has good quality microswitches in the joystick, PETSCII characters on the keys, a lot of attention to detail
02:07:18 <Nothing\> rust_collector: heh i remember when i used to install redhat to play around with linux, i'd spend like 2 or 3 hours installing it, then when it was finished it'd be like... okay... now what?
02:07:31 <Nothing\> i'd inevitably muck about with it for a few more hours, get bored and reinstall windows
02:07:46 <Nothing\> i think i just wanted to try a different OS
02:08:17 <Nothing\> i don't even do much with raspbian, despite my pi being pretty well the closest thing to a PC i have, i very rarely if ever use the terminal
02:08:33 <Nothing\> usually just to use apt-get to update or download apps
02:08:40 <rust_collector> I do have one laptop with winders7, I think it is out in the back of my car
02:09:00 <Nothing\> i have a laptop with windows 10, but it's in a police station somewhere ]P
02:09:02 <Nothing\> =P
02:09:06 <rust_collector> hah
02:09:18 <Nothing\> i've pretty much given up hope they'll ever return it to me
02:09:24 <rust_collector> I did install 10 a lot, when it was "free"
02:09:43 <rust_collector> yeah, I would not count on seeing that again
02:09:44 <Nothing\> yeah the laptop was originally with windows 7 and got a free update to 10
02:10:08 <rust_collector> the wife was wondering why I was installing 10 on all the things
02:10:18 <rust_collector> well, she figured it out now
02:10:31 <Nothing\> lol they couldn't even do anything with the laptop, i read the report in my court material, apparently they were gonna copy the memory contents, but couldn't get the password my mom gave them to work
02:11:03 <Nothing\> so they were gonna check it out at the station, but as soon as they unplugged it, it died cuz the battery was old and dead
02:11:21 <Nothing\> so it seems to me, it was pointless to even seize it
02:11:40 * Nothing\ shrugs
02:12:33 <Nothing\> uh oh, the squirrels are fighting again
02:12:49 <Nothing\> they get so aggressive over the peanuts sometimes
02:13:27 <Nothing\> oh hey lemme ask you guys something, do you know if it's normal in your area for people in the hospital to be stuck in the hallway instead of an actual room due to lack of space?
02:14:12 <Nothing\> it's a normal thing in my city, and i was telling me mom it's funny cuz this russian vlogger i was watching yesterday was saying the hospital he was in in chelyabinsk had the same problem and she said it's a problem they have everywhere, not just here but that doesn't seem right to me
02:14:16 <rust_collector> it is not uncommon. usually not for very long, but yeah, it happens
02:14:36 <Nothing\> every time i've been in hospital, or anyone i know, we always wound up in the hallway
02:14:57 <Nothing\> when my grandfather had his stroke a few months ago, they had him in the hallway for a few days before he was moved to a room
02:14:58 <rust_collector> I like it there, because that is where the coffee and biscuits are
02:15:20 <Nothing\> no free coffee and biscuits in our hospital, though there is a tim hortons
02:15:33 <Nothing\> but when my grandfather was in palliative care before he died, they had free coffee there
02:16:05 <Nothing\> well, at least it's not a localized problem then i suppose
02:16:20 <Nothing\> and at least i don't have to pay for healthcare, i'd be soooooo screwed if i did
02:16:40 <Nothing\> i can't even count how many times i've been in the hospital since i was a teenager, several dozen or so
02:16:47 <rust_collector> I want to go to chelyabinsk.
02:16:51 <Nothing\> most of them were just trips to the ER though, not actually admitted
02:17:34 <Nothing\> rust_collector: there's another channel called something like nfkrz where bald and bankrupt visited him in chelyabinsk and they walked around the city, it looks... i dunno some parts are nice, some parts are really run down
02:17:52 <Nothing\> there's a cool park there with tanks, apparently they used to make tanks there during WWII
02:18:27 <rust_collector> I was in the hospital a bit when I was "new" but after that, I just went there for 2-3 things, or to bring/see other people
02:18:29 <Nothing\> if you saw mr bald's one video about the most polluted city in russia, it's the channel of the guy he was with in that video
02:19:00 <Nothing\> btw, did you start watching his channel because i mentioned it earlier? or had you seen it before that?
02:19:36 <rust_collector> I think I had seen one or two videos before, but it is your fault now
02:19:41 <Nothing\> ah, cool
02:19:48 <Nothing\> glad you enjoy it
02:20:00 <Nothing\> but yeah, i went through most of his soviet videos before i checked out his indian ones, too
02:20:18 <Nothing\> there are a handfull of videos from bolivia as well, which are pretty good
02:20:28 <rust_collector> I skipped those too
02:20:47 <rust_collector> I am all about the soviet stuff, lol
02:21:34 <Nothing\> in the one, he goes to this little poor village way out in the middle of nowhere and this guy on a dirtbike approached him and told him he wasn't allowed to visit the village, obviously local militia cuz he had a grill on his teeth, but after some money he let him through for half an hour
02:21:52 <Nothing\> you wanna know a good drinking game? take a drink every time he says the word soviet
02:21:59 <Nothing\> or every time he says the name of the place he's in
02:22:50 <Nothing\> i like videos like his though cuz they provide a sort of escape from reality, helps me forget about my troubles here at home
02:25:23 <Nothing\> man i really wish there was a proper repository of circuit diagrams somewhere online, it's so sketchy searching google images for circuit diagrams. half the time i end up getting something from quora where somebody posts a circuit they made and asks about a problem they have with it
02:26:42 <Nothing\> that reminds me, i need to order some cd4021 shift registers, apparently all the controller for the NES is is a bunch of switches connected to a 4021, so conceivably i could make my own NES peripheral pretty easily from such a set up
02:27:02 <Nothing\> i thought i had some, but apparently it's one of the few jellybean logic chips i haven't got
02:27:48 <Nothing\> i've been collecting chips over the last couple of years and i think i have around 60 or 70 different logic chips, though i haven't so much as touched most of them but at least i have them if i ever need them
02:30:30 <Nothing\> i've been toying with the idea of making an analog computer, they don't seem that complex from a circuitry point of view, but you have to be well versed in differential equations, and the extent of my calculus knowledge is just knowing what a derivative or integral is, but i couldn't tell you how to work one out
02:31:05 <rust_collector> nah, just buy one
02:32:01 <Nothing\> they actually look pretty cool, you program them by connecting various in/outputs together with patch cords
02:32:11 <rust_collector> mmhmm
02:32:16 <Nothing\> oh yeah on the subject of interesting youtube channels, you should check out plainly difficult
02:32:34 <Nothing\> he does short documentaries about interesting bits of history, usually to do with nuclear or radiological accidents
02:33:09 <Nothing\> like that incident in brazil where a scrap salvager came across the caesium source from a teletherapy unit in an abandoned hospital and wound up contaminating a good bit of the city with radioactive caesium
02:33:28 <Nothing\> or various lesser known nuclear reactor accidents like sl-1 or NRX
02:33:50 <Nothing\> i've been giving them a second binge watch lately
02:34:03 <rust_collector> nerd
02:34:08 <Nothing\> i am totally a nerd
02:34:15 <Nothing\> lol dude, i sleep next to a calculator
02:34:17 <rust_collector> that is what I meant
02:34:36 <Nothing\> and not just any calculator, a TI-36X pro
02:35:00 <Nothing\> i wish i had a TI-86, but they still cost over $100 :/
02:35:17 <Nothing\> for some reason they cost about the same as an HP prime with a color touchscreen display
02:35:48 <rust_collector> just because they can
02:35:51 <Nothing\> but seeing as i already have an HP Prime emulator on my mom's phone, i see no reason in actually buying one
02:36:13 <Nothing\> yeha i figure it's probably because of the popularity of TI as a manufacturer of scientific calculators, brand recognition or some such
02:36:39 <rust_collector> yeah, the books are written to use them
02:37:01 <Nothing\> yeah i remember during the brief time i spent in high school, they were the calculators we used in math class
02:37:18 <rust_collector> I was told I could by a different brand, but I was on my own figuring it out
02:37:39 <Nothing\> oh yeah and apparently the TI-36X is the most advanced calculator that's allowed in most exams
02:37:51 <Nothing\> so that probably drove the price of those up
02:39:03 <Nothing\> i dunno why, but i've really taken to math lately, it seems to have surpassed electronics in terms of how interested i am in learning about it
02:39:59 <Nothing\> except i'm finding a lot of gaps in my knowledge, like i completely forget all of my fraction arithmetic, and a lot of algebraic rules, though a lot of algebra came back to me as i learned to do arithmetic on complex numbers
02:40:44 <rust_collector> I see you write text, but I read that as "blahblahblahblah blah blahblah"
02:41:03 <Nothing\> yeah, that seems to be pretty common
02:41:07 <Nothing\> :P
02:41:44 <Nothing\> i've become mildly obsessed with the square root of 2 lately too, i think it's my new favourite number
02:43:52 <rust_collector> I was never interested in math in school, and I wonder if it is because you asked a teacher "why learn thisthing?" and the answer was "just because we have to teach you this". If I had an example of what I could use it for, maybe it would be almost interesting
02:45:57 <Nothing\> yeah that's how i always was until i got into electronics, but learning math in the context of something with an actual practical application has helped it to make a lot more intuitive sense than the dry rote method they use in school
02:46:29 <Nothing\> there were so many times in school where they'd just teach you "this is how it works, accept it" and it would just seem like arbitrary nonsense
02:46:40 <rust_collector> I just had issues with school, I think. and yes
02:47:02 <Nothing\> yeah i had a lot of issues with school as well, i dropped out a few months into grade 9
02:47:39 <rust_collector> I mean, I was there to learn how to dig holes in the ground, and blow things up. Why do they teach us history and religion?
02:47:41 <Nothing\> between being bullied, teachers hating me, and being the sort of person who prefers to do what he wants rather than what he's told, i just didn't have the right mentality for school
02:48:21 <Nothing\> then there's the fact that the teachers rarely actually knew about what they were teaching us
02:48:26 <rust_collector> I guess these days, blowing up things and religion has a link, so maybe I was wrong
02:48:38 <Nothing\> i learned later that pretty well all of the pronunciation i was taught in french class was wrong
02:49:02 <Nothing\> lol jihad is a very important subject in school these days
02:51:41 <rust_collector> I come from a small... call it a village, I guess. when I was in school, there was 1 family from pakistan here, the middle daughter was in my class in school. they were sort of something new and interesting.
02:53:11 <Nothing\> there were a lot of foreign people in my school, even though i'm in a city of maybe 80k at the time, israeli, korean, pakistani, indian, just off the top of my head
02:55:09 <rust_collector> foreign people moving here is a fairly new thing. I think the first batch came from pakistan in the early/mid 70s. then we had those until around 90, then suddenly we got all kinds
02:56:00 <rust_collector> hmm, I guess we got a batch or iranians in the early 80s too
02:57:43 <rust_collector> but in general, when I grew up, you had to go to the bigger city to see foreigners
02:58:54 <rust_collector> heh, and some of us did go to the city, to look at them, lol
03:05:32 <rust_collector> something makes me want to put an arduino on a scale. I do not know why I want that
03:05:55 <rust_collector> maybe not on a scale... but yes
03:07:00 <rust_collector> I never weigh anything, so that can not be it
03:10:53 <MrMobodies> Just woke up and interesting reading above
03:11:11 <rust_collector> good morning then
03:12:01 <MrMobodies> I wish they had the equipment at school but they stopped teaching electronics.
03:12:45 <rust_collector> the important thing is school, is to make everyone equal, so that makes sense
03:12:47 <MrMobodies> I have never seen an scope or a volt meter in any of them, bring in a little pocket computer and show them some OPL and they got offended.
03:13:30 <MrMobodies> equal... some where more equal than others... Got anything wrong you with they put you in the special needs classes which are all low level.
03:13:58 <MrMobodies> Once I knew my rights I walked out to pursue my interests do well and they call you challenging.
03:14:20 <MrMobodies> *challenging behaviour... they call it.
03:14:51 <MrMobodies> but then some of the teachers were just the same.
03:15:41 <MrMobodies> Good thing is things have changed a little and there is access to lots of things compared to those days.
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03:44:16 <rust_collector> hmm, posting videos and commenting on trumps shaking hands seems to be a thing now, lol
03:52:37 <DHess_US> Shaking hands is a white power gesture.
04:13:42 <MrMobodies> Just read an article about overweight people in Britain. When I go to the shops I get scared when I read what goes into the food and often don't leave with much.
04:17:04 <MrMobodies> I have seen mince pies selling with 21g of sugar per pie. Three years ago I found some with 11g per pie and I thought that was a lot.
04:18:07 <rust_collector> I was watching a big clive video about pies the other day, and the mince pies do not have meat in them any more?
04:19:29 <MrMobodies> I have seen that. One camaralised on the metal pin
04:19:35 <rust_collector> right
04:20:13 <rust_collector> I don't think they would be able to sell those here, without changing the name, if they really do not have any mince in them
04:20:24 <rust_collector> seems weird
04:20:36 <MrMobodies> they did it with meat in pubs some years ago I think
04:20:48 <MrMobodies> they here selling horse meat or something as beef.
04:22:21 <rust_collector> yeah, but I don't think you can compare that. That is like selling rats or cats, and saying it is chicken or something.
04:25:13 <rust_collector> probably common if you are doing indian street food
04:25:25 <MrMobodies> I suppose then I compared it over grossly.
04:26:38 <rust_collector> But... uhm. I do wonder how they can sell them as mince pies, without mince. unless whatever is in them can be called mince?
04:27:09 <rust_collector> Maybe I am just translating it wrong, and think mince in general would mean meat
04:27:19 <MrMobodies> That is an interestng one. They keep he name the same.
04:28:59 <MrMobodies> I am going out for my walk.
04:29:10 <rust_collector> enjoy
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08:44:43 <MrMobodies> I just opened my fans, swap the plugs and worls but 2 blades extra than the previous ones and not sure if that matters or not.
08:46:36 <rust_collector> what kind of fan? and what is worls?
09:06:21 <MrMobodies> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283157647782?
09:06:50 <MrMobodies> 12v 0.12a and best match I can get for the datasheet
09:07:40 <MrMobodies> I spent some time looking for replacements. Lets see. ADDA AD0312MB-G50
09:08:07 <MrMobodies> I found them selling in USA and under other brands with identical charactistics.
09:08:33 <MrMobodies> About $4 but about £40 delivery... no way am I paying that.
09:08:42 <rust_collector> I bet they are sold by a million brands.
09:08:43 <MrMobodies> for 1 gram through ebay
09:09:06 <rust_collector> what are you using such a small fan for?
09:09:43 <MrMobodies> I brought a box of 5 Thermaltake PCI slot blowers some years ago from the states in Ebay GSP I think they were £20 and I paid £10 delivery.
09:09:54 <MrMobodies> For a HP kvm switch
09:10:02 <rust_collector> oh
09:10:16 <MrMobodies> Hp and their part numbers...
09:10:17 <MrMobodies> HP 408965-001
09:10:29 <MrMobodies> I consoles, 2 network, and 16 kvm ports
09:10:40 <MrMobodies> I have 4 ps2 with USB cable
09:10:44 <MrMobodies> over cat5
09:10:54 <MrMobodies> got it for about £60 with customs last year
09:10:58 <MrMobodies> and forgot about it
09:11:20 <MrMobodies> until the roof leaked and I found it under all packaged safe
09:11:30 <rust_collector> I wonder if the switch/router things use the same fans...
09:11:41 <MrMobodies> I know some use 5v or so
09:12:06 <rust_collector> hmm, brb...
09:12:10 <MrMobodies> but most of them that sell locally seem to be low pressure fans low current and rpm and so
09:12:27 <MrMobodies> at the size of 30x30x10mm or so
09:13:48 <MrMobodies> I will be setting that up, one to do laptops from customers so I don't get blinded until I install the display driver. The brightness it turns on the max. I could use a monitor but I can't be bothered tinking with the controls.
09:14:05 <MrMobodies> and two... for you to play with that Pentium 3 and the hardware I have
09:14:57 <MrMobodies> I'll dedicate a static IP, router with VPN and laptop so you can upload you iso image even though you can mount them as a virtual cdrom drive.
09:15:12 <MrMobodies> Just a bit of wiring to do and it'll be up
09:16:00 <MrMobodies> Just looking at Big clives video with his lights,
09:16:14 <rust_collector> hmm, my hp switch uses a much larger fan, mounted on an angle
09:17:04 <MrMobodies> Ahh you have one of those too
09:17:28 <rust_collector> Hmm, I remember the "anti radiation" screen things they used to have... sort of like shades on your screen
09:17:38 <MrMobodies> I could get a large fan in there but the holes don't line up, maybe your one is newer and that was an after thought.
09:17:49 <MrMobodies> I rememeber those
09:18:00 <MrMobodies> of crt monitors
09:18:06 <rust_collector> yeah
09:18:24 <MrMobodies> I came acros an enourmos Sony one I think it was 21 inch
09:18:32 <MrMobodies> it had VGA, RGB input coax
09:18:55 <MrMobodies> and when you turned it on it sounded like someone kicking a ball inside a football court cage
09:19:26 <rust_collector> as far as I know, there might be a football in a cage in there
09:19:43 <MrMobodies> with the size in the back
09:20:34 <rust_collector> you spin the football fast enough to build up the voltage. it is very efficient, so the oil companies shut that down
09:22:06 <MrMobodies> I heard about something like that year ago... Spinning something and I am not sure if it some dinamo under there but they demonstrated it producing more power that went it but that's all I came across.
09:22:30 <rust_collector> lol.
09:22:32 <MrMobodies> Either there is no free lunch or the power is obtained somewhere where it spins around
09:23:18 <MrMobodies> or it could be a hoax and tha's when Thunderf00t will do a video on it.
09:23:32 <rust_collector> free lunch is only for the pretty people
09:23:58 <MrMobodies> just like the village pub I came back from
09:24:15 <MrMobodies> they have a whole lot of terminology and words I never came across before
09:24:23 <MrMobodies> like another language to me
09:25:08 <MrMobodies> it's to do with making people pregnant and taking pills to prevent it.
09:25:17 <MrMobodies> whilst they are drunk
09:25:40 <rust_collector> oh, football fans....
09:26:03 <MrMobodies> similar but I am not sure if they play football.
09:26:08 <MrMobodies> One of them is a singer
09:26:23 <rust_collector> no no, I said football fan, not player
09:26:52 <MrMobodies> I think some of them mention football clubs but they were middle age in there
09:26:57 <rust_collector> it means fast food and beer in front of a tv, as far as I know
09:27:04 <MrMobodies> No food just drinks
09:27:08 <MrMobodies> aah
09:27:11 <MrMobodies> I know
09:27:57 <rust_collector> I guess some of them are poor, and don't have money for food
09:27:57 <MrMobodies> they talk to me about swinging at this time of night but I said what are you talking about there aren't swings in the park anyway.
09:28:01 <MrMobodies> Strange lot
09:28:14 <rust_collector> maybe they like dancing?
09:28:27 <MrMobodies> I think they do that
09:28:36 <MrMobodies> They had Karaoke at Christmas at 9pm
09:28:42 <MrMobodies> and I had to leave before I went deaf
09:29:09 <MrMobodies> most of them seem deaf in there so I think maybe why... loud music.
09:30:04 <MrMobodies> But they seem okay in there and welcoming.
09:30:18 <rust_collector> I have never been in a proper pub. We almost got a sort of pub here a few years ago, at the local pizza place, but the owner moved away
09:31:23 <MrMobodies> It's a small pub but it's got a snooker room the in back. Toilets much large than the bar itself which I found unusual.
09:31:41 <rust_collector> not a bad idea
09:53:36 <BenJammin> hello
09:54:31 <rust_collector> hey
10:00:24 <BenJammin> im just getting into electronics, and i have a couple questions if you dont mind
10:00:49 <rust_collector> ask away... I am pretty useless, but someone might answer
10:01:33 <BenJammin> i guess im looking for some tutorials/articles/posts/videos about electronics, like i understand what a capacitor does, and what a resistor does, and so on, but for some reason it still hasnt "clicked" in my mind how they work together in a circut
10:03:45 <rust_collector> My best idea is to look up w2aew on youtube. I am sure someone will have more ideas for you
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10:10:28 <BenJammin> About a year ago, i got a cassette deck and matching amp for free, and i really liked, that. and my so called "collection" has snowballed. but now, lots of those things are starting to suffer from age, and need repair
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10:43:55 <Halcyon> Morning all
10:44:53 <rust_collector> hey Halcyon
10:45:52 <rust_collector> I hope you have an amazing morning with things you like and weather that is ok, and stuff
10:47:31 <Halcyon> Yeh it's warm today
10:53:08 <rust_collector> heh, I keep trying to send short videos to you, of that phone thing, because I keep forgetting it does not allow anything more than xxx mb
10:57:10 <rust_collector> but, it is not anything important, so
10:57:40 <Halcyon> Which phone thing was that?
10:58:03 <rust_collector> grrrmmmm... have to look it up
10:58:27 <rust_collector> whatsapp
10:58:43 <Halcyon> Whatsapp should accept large files
10:59:11 <rust_collector> well, I am just told it is larger than "somenumber" and that is it
10:59:21 <Halcyon> Right
10:59:23 <Halcyon> Oh well
11:00:25 <steve30> hi
11:00:35 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
11:00:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: 'The monster': a short history of Australia's biggest forest fire. The Gospers Mountain 'mega fire' started from a single ignition point. It has now destroyed an area seven times the size of Singapore. https://t.co/O4iGp4PALA via @smh
11:04:29 <rust_collector> I guess it is a good thing that I have no idea about the size of singapore
11:08:46 <steve30> meow
11:08:47 <steve30> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsK45KTMXkw
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11:11:47 * T3sl4 pets steve30
11:20:53 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @TubeTimeUS: what fresh hell is this it's like a school desk but for work? https://t.co/aRapE8ka5i
11:21:08 * Ampera sneezes at Halcyon
11:28:08 * steve30 wants some chocolate
11:28:28 * DogWomble hands steve30 some milk chocolate
11:28:54 * steve30 nibbles
12:09:12 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: BBC News - YouTube admits error over Bitcoin video purge https://t.co/57QVYBr7SR
12:10:45 <coppice_> you can't run a business on lottery like youtube
12:11:14 <Ampera> With great power comes great apathy.
12:11:39 <coppice_> With great power comes huge arseholes
12:19:56 <rust_collector> wow, I was reading on the bbc, and there was a story about invading panama. I thought that was weird
12:20:28 <rust_collector> turns out it was in 89
12:21:32 <coppice_> what's weird about it?
12:21:42 <Ampera> Pretty impressive for the BBC to already have articles for the year 2089 not only written, but published too.
12:21:42 <DHess_US> I remember that.
12:22:35 <rust_collector> Well, as I was reading news, and that popped up... it just... is weird
12:23:09 <coppice_> if subversion fails, the US will invade anyone
12:23:46 <DHess_US> Just make sure you have no oil and you get a bonus to intimidation check against US.
12:24:26 <Ampera> The US already owns most of central and south america.
12:24:43 <coppice_> The Panama invasion, when the US military brought down Manuel Noriega by playing Jethro Tull 24 hours a day
12:25:03 <DHess_US> https://polandball.cc/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/m2bdW3S-600x600.png
12:25:05 <Ampera> They're just puerto rico, just with even worse treatment.
12:25:22 <rust_collector> says they played van halens panama too
12:25:49 <DHess_US> They blew up Noriega's power boat to get him to surrender.
12:25:51 <DHess_US> Obscure?
12:27:36 <DHess_US> Lol at the post credits scene in the last episode of For All Mankind. That was a real proposal!
12:28:07 <DHess_US> It would have worked!
12:53:57 <gremlinz> hii
13:03:13 <DHess_US> What a Panama really is, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QalbVvZx7MU
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13:21:54 <Halcyon> Oh good the volunteer fire fighters will get up to $6000 tax free cash for their work
13:24:19 <coppice_> per day? that's not bad
13:24:48 <Halcyon> No, $300 per day, up to $6000
13:27:00 <coppice_> per 20 days is not so good
13:27:21 <Halcyon> No, but it's better than nothing.
13:33:03 * steve30 nibbles on Halcyon
13:33:06 <Halcyon> :)
13:33:13 <Halcyon> How are you Steve?
13:33:25 <steve30> A little bit hungry
13:39:26 <Halcyon> Have some kibble
13:39:28 <Halcyon> :P
13:45:36 * Ampera pokes Halcyon
13:47:34 <Ampera> It's almost like he's ignoring me :P
13:50:50 <steve30> I'm busy nibbling him
14:02:37 <steve30> I'm going to go out on the bike somewhere
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14:10:11 <Ampera> at 3:10AM
14:10:13 <Ampera> er
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15:04:22 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera :)
15:04:24 <Halcyon> *cuddles*
15:04:31 <Ampera> you
15:04:37 <Ampera> you who keeps alluding me >:(
15:04:44 <Halcyon> I've had visitors over all weekend
15:05:00 <Ampera> lol
15:05:40 <Ampera> how do Halcyon
15:05:52 <Halcyon> I'm alright, how are you?
15:06:07 <Ampera> in a strange state of profound almost pain like discomfort
15:06:24 <Ampera> it's like everything is trying to start hurting on me right now :P
15:07:49 <Halcyon> Awww
15:07:52 <Halcyon> What have you been doing?
15:08:00 <Ampera> suffering
15:08:03 <Ampera> I just fecking told you
15:08:19 <Halcyon> *hugs*
15:08:39 <Ampera> my eyes are stinging to shit, my face is going apeshit with zits and my nose is more irritating than a politician.
15:08:57 <Halcyon> Sounds like hayfever mixed with hormones?
15:09:16 <Ampera> how the fuck would I have hay fever in winter
15:09:22 <Halcyon> I don't fucking know
15:09:31 <Ampera> I'm not even allergic to pollen
15:09:32 <Halcyon> Some people are sensitive to things all year round
15:09:35 <Halcyon> Maybe it's dust?
15:09:37 <Ampera> in fact I have no known allergens.
15:09:45 <Halcyon> Well it's SOMETHING
15:09:48 <Ampera> Not possible, I'm in a filtered air environment
15:09:50 <Halcyon> It can't be nothing
15:09:59 <Ampera> Maybe it's my body telling me I'm a mistake and should stop trying to breathe :P
15:10:02 <Halcyon> Could even be dust mites
15:10:08 <Halcyon> Pfft
15:10:56 <Ampera> Mentally I'm reaching a breaking point like no other. I'm constantly tired, I never sleep right, I'm all sorts of nauseous, my mind feels like it's breaking down
15:11:22 <Ampera> not that I'd have a point of comparison, but it feels like I have brain damage. I dissociate constantly, and can't focus on much of anything.
15:11:37 <Ampera> I'm immensely restless and dissatisfied with basically everything.
15:13:12 <Ampera> I also am in a state of immense distrust for people I might go to get help with any of that, because I'm fucking terrified that people just want to hurt me even more than I already am.
15:30:38 <Halcyon> Could it be perhaps you aren't eating well?
15:30:46 <Halcyon> (The sleep etc...)?
15:59:13 * Halcyon pokes Ampera
16:02:49 * Ampera sneezes on Halcyon
16:02:55 <Ampera> I'm eating find.
16:02:57 <Ampera> *fine
16:03:18 * Halcyon is moist
16:04:36 <Ampera> I just feel like shit and get worse all the time
16:04:43 <Ampera> and just want to not feel like shit
16:04:56 <Halcyon> :( I wish I could help
16:05:11 <Ampera> but I just feel broken, like I don't belong here, and that no matter what I'll do I'll just continue to suffer because I'm unhappy about who I am and how I live
16:05:34 <Ampera> There's one way, Halcyon. Advocate for the abolition of gun control so I may more easily shoot myself >:D
16:05:44 <Halcyon> Pfft
16:06:12 <Halcyon> I know I asked this before and school was a factor, but would living with your Grandfather be an option?
16:08:17 <Ampera> Potentially more now than it would be otherwise, but that's not really my issue
16:08:26 <Ampera> my issue is my fucking gender problems
16:09:16 <Halcyon> No I get that, but surely the living arrangement with your father's new girlfriend isn't helping
16:09:29 <Halcyon> But you seem to really get on well with your Grandfather,
16:09:32 <Halcyon> *Plus
16:10:12 <Ampera> Yes, but it's in a different state, there's a metric fuckton of complications involved, and I am invested in New York financially.
16:10:22 <Halcyon> Mmmk
16:10:25 <Halcyon> Was just a thought
16:11:46 <Ampera> There will only ever be two things, in my opinon, that may stop my real pain.
16:11:54 <Ampera> Finding a way to transition, or suicide.
16:12:08 <Halcyon> Well, I hope you choose the first
16:12:19 <Halcyon> Because I would actually love to meet you for reals
16:12:36 <Ampera> I wish I could choose neither, because I'm not sure which one is worse.
16:13:05 <Ampera> Transitioning is one of the worst things I could ever do to myself physically and socially, and it may very well be impossible to do it at all.
16:13:34 <Halcyon> :(
16:15:18 <Halcyon> How did you go with your NeXTSTEP install the other day?
16:15:47 <Ampera> It didn't work, I'll have to do it on real hardware.
16:15:54 <Halcyon> Oh no :(
16:16:30 <Ampera> The first video I plan to make is a 486 build, and while you wanted to see the Pentium Pro, I wanted to keep a timeline
16:16:40 <Halcyon> Yeh that's fine :)
16:16:42 <Halcyon> I can wait
16:16:51 <Ampera> that in mind, there is an insane amount of stuff I can cover on a 486, including installing NeXTSTEP
16:16:58 <Halcyon> You going to do it in the style of Big Clive?
16:17:09 <Halcyon> Top down view/hands ?
16:17:50 <Ampera> Nope.
16:18:07 <Halcyon> Mike Jeavons and his cat?
16:18:07 <Ampera> I'm going to do it more similar to Technology Connections.
16:18:08 <Halcyon> :P
16:18:10 <Halcyon> Oh yeh
16:18:11 <Halcyon> Nice
16:18:24 <Ampera> Camera to face, you see the stuff as I hold it, and then b roll of close up stuff
16:18:30 <Halcyon> Are you going to have a cringe intro like Fran?
16:18:41 <Ampera> I've never watched her stuff
16:18:46 <Ampera> I already made an intro though
16:18:46 <Halcyon> I've watch a bit
16:18:57 <Ampera> or at least an ident. I thought I showed it to you
16:19:00 <Halcyon> You did
16:19:21 <Ampera> I need to add sound effects to that. Unfortunately it will all have to wait until I get back from Connecticut.
16:19:33 <Halcyon> I actually like the guy from Technology Connections, for a bigger guy, he is pretty cute
16:21:05 <Ampera> get your dick out of the gutter
16:21:12 <Halcyon> No
16:21:17 <Halcyon> :P
16:21:28 * Ampera throws a bottle of horny-b-gone at Halcyon
16:21:34 * Halcyon wiggles it around even more
16:21:37 <Halcyon> Hahaha
16:22:05 <Ampera> I'm not sure what to do though, Halcyon.
16:22:14 <Ampera> If I transition I'll hurt so many people, including myself.
16:22:42 <Ampera> I'll make every day so much harder, and I'll make the stress I am experiencing now seem like a life of relaxation.
16:23:03 <Ampera> I'll never be able to do what I want to do anyways. I'll never be female, it's not possible.
16:23:05 <Halcyon> I honestly don't know the answer either
16:23:20 <Ampera> The answer is simple. I have a disease to which there is no cure.
16:24:03 <Halcyon> BRB, going to put Jerry back in his cage
16:24:12 <Halcyon> He is nibbling on my cables
16:25:05 * Ampera nibbles on Halcyon's cable
16:31:35 <Halcyon> Scat
16:31:44 * Halcyon chases Ampera way with a broom
16:31:50 <Ampera> :P
16:32:04 <Ampera> I just wish transitioning was something I could do quickly, even if all the pain was at once.
16:32:19 <Ampera> That's what really makes it so bad, because I have to hurt myself again and again and again
16:32:59 <Ampera> and even if I put my full weight and care into transitioning, even if I somehow manage to be lucky at all the right places, it changes nothing
16:33:24 <Ampera> I'll still just be me, only a drugged and altered version of me acting as a subpar member of a social group I'll never be allowed to fully join.
16:33:41 <Halcyon> Sounds like a lot of other people on society
16:33:45 <Halcyon> *in
16:33:48 <Halcyon> Fuck, why can't I type
16:34:40 <Ampera> No, other people don't have to try the way I would.
16:35:02 <Ampera> People can be happy with how they look, how they talk, how they interact, how they are.
16:36:19 <Ampera> What I will say is that diphenhydramine is an excellent drug
16:38:42 <Ampera> anyways I'll sleep
16:38:44 <Ampera> good night
16:39:00 <Halcyon> *cuddles*
16:39:02 <Halcyon> Sweet dreams
16:46:59 <Halcyon> DogWomble, T3sl4 you guys around for some golf?
16:47:19 <DogWomble> i can do that
16:47:59 <Halcyon> Looks like it's just us, I'll jump on your Discord
16:48:14 <DogWomble> ok :)
16:49:17 <steve30> I like diphenhydramine
17:15:55 <Halcyon> steve30: Do you want to play cards?
17:28:06 <steve30> no thanks
17:28:12 <steve30> I'd rather eat my dinner :p
17:28:20 <Halcyon> What's for dinner?
17:28:24 <steve30> kiev
17:28:28 <Halcyon> Oh yummy
17:28:55 <Halcyon> After today, I need to start having salads etc... I've been eating such heavy foods
17:28:59 <Halcyon> I feel like a fatty
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17:57:38 <steve30> salad?
17:57:45 * steve30 nibbles on his chips
18:31:37 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
18:38:33 <Halcyon> Aw :)
18:38:35 <Halcyon> *hugs*
18:38:38 <Halcyon> I'm having pork :)
18:40:40 <steve30> Sounds better than salad
18:40:44 * Halcyon porks steve30
18:41:04 <steve30> yum
18:47:43 <DogWomble> yumk pork
19:14:40 <Halcyon> I don't want to go to work tomorrow :(
19:15:32 <steve30> Come and talk to us on IRC instead then :)
19:15:47 <Halcyon> I can't. I have lots to do
19:15:55 <Halcyon> Plus I have to go to work to go get some things
19:16:02 <steve30> aww
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21:06:35 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: This retweet never gets old. https://t.co/x53uDqXUt3
21:07:00 * steve30 prods Halcyon
21:08:51 <Halcyon> :)
22:07:14 * Halcyon nibbles on T3sl41
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22:07:33 <Halcyon> Mmm chips
22:07:33 * T3sl41 coughs on Halcyon
22:07:37 Nick: T3sl41 is now known as T3sl4
22:07:38 <Halcyon> Thanks :P
22:07:46 <T3sl4> at least my cold is almost over. today kinda sucked
22:07:53 <Halcyon> Aww you been sick?
22:08:18 <T3sl4> this morning, at one point i thought i was a cube made of many small cubes, and when i woke up i had to rediscover existence
22:08:32 <Halcyon> Were you playing Minecraft?
22:08:36 <T3sl4> but it turns out i hadn't forgotten movement and sight, among other things, so it eventually faded
22:08:59 <T3sl4> no, more like metallic cubes
22:09:16 <T3sl4> i was probably running a fever, didn't get up to measure ofc
22:09:28 <Halcyon> Aww
22:09:33 * Halcyon cuddles T3sl4
22:09:38 * T3sl4 is cuddle
22:09:38 * Halcyon offers him soup
22:10:02 <T3sl4> bonus, i can't smell your awful cooking so i'll likely enjoy it
22:10:11 <Halcyon> Bitch!
22:10:15 <T3sl4> j/k, plus if you made it spicy it probably helps
22:10:18 * Halcyon laces it with way too much chilli
22:10:23 <T3sl4> :D
22:10:37 <Halcyon> Chilli goes in almost everything
22:10:42 <T3sl4> it's true
22:10:56 <T3sl4> i eat sriracha on eggs like it's ketchup
22:11:14 <Halcyon> Oh delish
22:11:48 <Halcyon> You should also try them with a sprinkle of: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shichimi
22:12:36 <T3sl4> :)
22:49:53 <steve30> I think I'll do some cheese on toast
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