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44:51 <coppice_> Halcyon: so, construction workers find archeological remains. What makes this grim, like the article claims? Its a normal daily part of construction work. What construction workers don't like is finding truly ancient remains. That can hold up their work for years
47:17 <coppice_> DogWomble: "what if the beatles were irish" is a weird question when they came from Liverpool. They were probably of Irish decent anyway
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23:07 <Guest|62775> Anyone good with boost convertors?
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26:19 <Abe> Hi David. My name is Abhiveer, but you can call me Abe, as in Abraham. I wanted your advice on plotting a career path for working with a company like Altium, or Nvidia Hardware.
29:03 <Abe> Any suggestions on what should I do? Also, fyi, i have already done my bachelors in electronics engineering from India, and am looking forward to continuing my education in a foreign university.
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51:29 <Ampera> that's some pretty good english actually
14:34 <T3sl4> coppice_: a slightly more detailed but still very brief overview of what came up last night, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMo3nZHVrZ4
31:57 <coppice_> T3sl4: that video paints a rosy picture, but ignores the huge amount of political instability that keeps undermining the progress made
32:23 <T3sl4> yup
32:28 <coppice_> T3sl4: of course, some of that political instability has resulted in genecide, which helps with the numbers
33:07 <T3sl4> and some of that is our fault, arguably much of it what with colonialism still going on
35:04 <coppice_> don't blame it on colonialism. Britain did make a mess of retreating from Africa, but Britain only found it easy to colonise Africa because it was a mess when they arrived
37:31 <T3sl4> the continent has hosted several powerful native empires over the centuries, but few were able to stand up to the power of later foreign empires
39:51 <coppice_> our understanding of african history is pretty weak. We find the remains of ancient civilisations and industrial activity in a few places, but they are so isolated nobody really has an understanding of how they worked.
43:11 <T3sl4> they often lacked written records, making it that much harder to study
44:08 <T3sl4> or at least on indellible materials
56:40 <coppice_> they didn't leave many ruins, which are a lot more persistent than anything written
57:03 <coppice_> of course, we are talking about sub-saharan africa here, like the video was
35:14 <Halcyon> Morning
41:07 <T3sl4> hi
41:30 <Halcyon> *sips coffee*
42:47 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/obvTXE1
43:26 <Halcyon> Nom
43:49 <Halcyon> Good for when you can't decide which one to get and two would be too much
44:35 <T3sl4> i only care that it's got relish and peppers under there
44:54 <Halcyon> Agree
45:07 <Halcyon> Anyway I better go.
45:46 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://i.redd.it/k1z8si6nuq441.jpg
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18:42 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: A lock protected DVD case? How the heck do you open these without breaking it? https://t.co/ARb71M5DCE
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33:11 <Halcyon> Evening all
33:23 <steve30> hi
33:28 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
33:32 * Halcyon licks Ampera
33:52 <steve30> Halcyon, I ordered an L2TP tunnel service. Now to try and get it to work.
34:21 <Halcyon> What's that for?
34:39 <steve30> To get IPv6 and a fixed IPv4
34:44 <Halcyon> Oh right
34:56 <Halcyon> What encryption are you going to run over the top of it?
35:05 <steve30> none
35:11 <Halcyon> Mmmk
38:41 * orbii raises an eyebrow
38:56 <orbii> security <3
39:42 <steve30> also I'm going to go swimming later
43:25 <Halcyon> Who set the tunnel up for you?
44:13 <steve30> https://www.aa.net.uk/broadband/l2tp-service/
44:57 <Halcyon> And you trust them not to inspect your traffic?
45:12 <steve30> yes
45:15 <orbii> i brought this up the other day, and got told i was an idiot for thinking it was an issue
45:21 <Halcyon> Okies then :)
45:31 <Halcyon> Orbii: Let me guess, it was some manager?
45:38 <orbii> no, someone in here
45:42 <Halcyon> Oh
45:48 <Halcyon> People in here should know better
46:10 <Halcyon> But hey, if you're willing to accept the risk for yourself *shrug*
46:23 <steve30> This isn't for security purposes. Its a way of getting IPv6 support and a fixed IPv4 from a different ISP to the one you are using to connect
46:34 <Halcyon> Sure, I understand that Steve
46:50 <Halcyon> I use HTTPS even on my internal network
47:21 <Halcyon> Oh speaking of networks. I got Zabbix up and running :D
49:48 <orbii> nice.
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50:03 <Halcyon> I've been meaning to get around to setting up monitoring for a long time
50:20 <orbii> any reasons behind Zabbix vs. alternatives?
50:43 <steve30000> Ah ha, I managed to connect to L2TP using Networkmanager :)
50:45 <Halcyon> I was originally looking at PTRG but I don't run Windows anymore
50:51 <orbii> *nod*
51:21 <Halcyon> However Zabbix got a good wrap and they are very well supported. Plus it's free and extremely light on resources. I was quite impressed.
51:31 <orbii> yup. totes.
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52:32 <Halcyon> So yeh, I only installed it yesterday, so I'll see how I go. So far so good. It's *very* configurable. I don't quite know how to use it properly yet.
52:44 <Halcyon> Managed to get it to pull data from my UPS fairly easily though.
52:46 * steve30000 gets his speedos ready to go swimming
52:54 <Halcyon> Pics please Steve :P
52:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: @eevblog the answer is a big arse flat blade screwdriver https://t.co/0BkLkjjzZn
52:57 <orbii> budgie smugglers, nice
57:51 <Halcyon> I do need to get around to setting up Suricata
57:59 <Halcyon> But that's a later problem
58:14 <orbii> haver you ever looked at netdata?
58:20 <Halcyon> I have not, good ?
00:03 <Halcyon> Looks quite polished
00:27 <Halcyon> I like the dashboard
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10:26 <Halcyon> Welcome back Ysjoelfir
36:10 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzQb4CV7hLY
36:14 <Halcyon> Heh, big kitty having a bath
52:17 <Halcyon> orbii: I'm thinking of using GSuite for backing up my NAS
52:18 <Halcyon> Thoughts?
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00:24 * orbii shrugs
00:30 <orbii> whatever works for you, really
01:02 <Halcyon> I just need to find something that will encrypt and sync
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09:23 <JoePublic> Is that Dave's BM235 in Mr Robot s04e11 @39:59?
09:39 <Halcyon> No idea, haven't seen it
09:42 <Halcyon> Can you link us?
12:59 <JoePublic> https://imgur.com/a/GDEYl5V?
13:23 <Halcyon> Heh, could be :P
14:02 <Guest|8864> I had one come in the mail today.. I wouldn't have recognised it otherwise
14:34 <orbii> looks pretty similar to a brymen casing
15:27 <orbii> good catch
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22:15 * orbii hrms at vmware host, wondering fi there's a potential disk failure due to the weather, or whether the new vmware version has introduced some weird H700 issues
22:35 <Halcyon> Ew VMware
22:40 <Halcyon> *hiss*
22:45 <orbii> your hate amuses me
23:07 <Halcyon> ESXi/VSphere pissed me off one too many times
26:17 <orbii> given the weather here lately, i'm gonna put money a drive has kicked it. doing a data scan right now. aint really vmware related issue when drives start taking a long time to respond or go unresponsive
26:30 <Halcyon> Got too hot you think?
26:32 <orbii> likely it's not bad enough for a 4-drive RAID6 to pick it up badly
26:43 <orbii> i'd wager so
26:57 <orbii> my equipment graphs are showing it got very warm today in the house
27:10 <Halcyon> Thursday should be interesting
27:14 <orbii> yep, very.
27:17 <Halcyon> Something like 43 in Western Sydney
27:20 <orbii> i may have to leave a fan on
27:24 <orbii> or two
27:32 <Halcyon> Thankfully I'm up high so we more or less follow Sydney's weather
27:33 <orbii> same night of the work xmas movie night too.
28:08 <orbii> peak equipment temp was 72C out of the Dell switch ..
28:18 <Halcyon> Yeh getting a bit toasty
28:21 <orbii> lowest was the UPS at 33C
28:36 <Halcyon> I might have to leave the AC on
28:41 <orbii> wish we had any
28:49 <orbii> and some painful worrying jumps in temperature growth too
29:03 <Halcyon> :(
29:04 <orbii> UPSs dont have fans, so they tend to show things quickest i've found
29:19 <Halcyon> Where do you have your server gear?
29:24 <orbii> in a room
29:45 <orbii> with lots of glass, unfortunately
29:48 <Halcyon> I guess you could leave a door open as well ?
29:54 <orbii> ?
30:00 <Halcyon> The door to the room
30:05 <orbii> it's never ever been shut
30:10 <Halcyon> Oh right
30:20 <orbii> big double-doors
30:29 <orbii> the room gets all teh afternoon sun is the biggest issue
30:51 <orbii> funnily enough, biggest temperature growth was 5-6
31:12 <orbii> then slightly lower until 8
31:21 <orbii> and started dropping off around 8:50
31:40 <orbii> funny given i turned a fan on in that room when i got home a little after 5 :/
32:08 <orbii> ah wells
32:49 <Halcyon> Yep fair enough
33:10 <Halcyon> My servers sit in a closed store/server room
33:25 <Halcyon> It does get rather toasty, probably about 30 degrees
33:42 <Halcyon> But I can just open the door and/or turn on the AC/fan
41:59 <orbii> i only have a single server
42:35 <orbii> it does have a xeon e5, and 16 3.5" drives (and a handful of 2.5") .. but it also has a lot of fans
42:42 <Halcyon> *nod*
42:52 <orbii> still, it's not perfect when it's 35-45C outside
43:03 <orbii> and seems to be doing worse here than when i was over in SA
43:07 <orbii> despite it being warmer there
45:14 <Halcyon> I guess if you're getting a lot of light in that room, that would heat things up considerably
50:51 <orbii> mmm cleaned a massive load of dust off the front of the case where the intakes are, and off the inner dust shield
50:55 <orbii> maybe that'll help.
51:10 <orbii> and yeah, afternoon 3-5pm sun goes through an area that has no blinds
51:18 <orbii> and hits right where it is, and i cant really move it
51:30 <orbii> i did also pull it out from the wall a bit though, give it more airflow around it
51:39 <orbii> cant hurt.
51:57 <Halcyon> Indeed
52:08 <Halcyon> Blinds/curtains would help a lot by the sound of it
03:47 <coppice_> multiple layers would be even better - the blind leading the blind
04:27 <Halcyon> :)
07:53 <orbii> cant really put blinds there
08:11 <orbii> it's like an open ceiling so it's triangular - and windows open floor to ceiling
08:22 <orbii> the bottom part has blinds, the top - not so much
08:29 <orbii> its great for light, not so much for heat
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40:37 <K> hello
02:39 <Ysjoelfir> Ah, missed that Halcyon, thanks for your wb :)
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