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00:26:06 <coppice_> I'm not clear why anyone would expect youtube to ever be a stable platform on which to build a business. Its a political project, not a business.
00:30:59 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @AlexSaundersAU: 50 of my videos just got removed for being harmful or dangerous content. Most of these weren't even crypto videos. Tuto…
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00:44:32 Set By: (Halcyon) on: Mon Dec 17 17:18:40 2018
01:31:31 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/OvQ7d8N.jpg
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09:28:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1274 - Long Term Alkaline Battery Leakage Testing https://t.co/tlfAmOhYIR
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11:04:21 <Halcyon> Morning all
11:29:59 * DogWomble waves
11:33:17 <Halcyon> How's it going?
11:35:13 <DogWomble> yeah doign ok
11:35:15 <DogWomble> how be you?
11:35:47 <Halcyon> Yeh fine, just having coffee, not long up
11:36:14 <orbii> nice
11:36:50 <mrmobodies1> I just had some merrange cake when I woke some hours ago and it was horrible and tasted of gum.
11:37:02 <orbii> work is dead quiet today
11:37:30 <mrmobodies1> dead quiet it sounds in my place.
11:38:10 <Halcyon> Orbii: Not a lot going on at work then?
11:40:29 <orbii> some peopla are watching youtube, some are on netflix, think one is on his Nintendo Switch
11:40:54 <orbii> head of service desk told me they havent had a single call or ticket yet
11:41:36 <mrmobodies1> work on boxing day?
11:41:41 <orbii> that was yesterdahy
11:41:53 <mrmobodies1> oh
11:41:54 <orbii> its friday lunchtime
11:42:02 <Halcyon> eevblog time
11:42:02 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 11:42 Sydney time.
11:42:07 <orbii> thinking maybe i'll go get some Soba noodles for lunch
11:42:08 <Halcyon> Dame, it doesn't show the date
11:42:41 <DogWomble> yeah, i was supposed to be at work today, when i'd killed the queues in an hour and had not yet taken a call and the rest of the staff were all just sitting around, i was given an opportunity to take the rest of the day off on leave
11:42:57 <orbii> i imagine most of the staff will fuck off around 3p
11:43:05 <orbii> gotta make some sort of token effort
11:43:35 <Halcyon> You showed up, surely that is effort enough
11:43:43 <orbii> heh
11:45:16 * Halcyon considers another coffee
11:45:17 <steve30> hi
11:45:25 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
11:45:39 <steve30> I see I came just in time for the coffee
11:47:44 <orbii> i was unsurprised to learn that Elon Musk was in Rick & Morty Season 4. It takes quite an intellect to enjoy that show, not alone participate in it.
11:50:36 <Halcyon> Yup, coffee for everyone
11:50:56 <Halcyon> Meh, I'm not a fan of Musk
11:51:03 <Halcyon> I think he's a bit of a wanker
11:51:19 <Halcyon> (He was also in Big Bang Theory -- Take of that what you will)
11:55:53 <orbii> my joke apparently fell flat.
11:56:21 * Halcyon doesn't watch Rick & Morty
11:56:33 <Halcyon> I apologise for not getting your joke
11:58:03 <orbii> the constant copypasta with rick&morty is about how you have to be an intellectual or have a high iq to appreciate rick & morty.
11:58:16 <Halcyon> Mmmm copypasta :)
11:58:29 <orbii> https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/to-be-fair-you-have-to-have-a-very-high-iq-to-understand-rick-and-morty
11:58:32 * Ampera cuddles Halcyon
11:58:35 <Halcyon> YAY! Ampera
11:58:45 <Ampera> tiddy
11:59:54 <Ampera> how do Halcyon?
12:00:12 <Halcyon> Not too bad, how about yourself?
12:00:37 <Ampera> eh
12:00:38 <Ampera> eh
12:00:56 <Halcyon> *cuddles*
12:02:10 <steve30> Did I ought to go out later?
12:02:21 <Halcyon> Where you going?
12:02:28 <steve30> Don't know yet
12:02:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It seems that Youtube have admitted the "Crypto Purge" was an error and it's getting resolved. Okaaaay... Perhaps is ok for me to release my crypto video on my 2nd channel now? https://t.co/LbnMD6Iv5X
12:05:07 <Halcyon> I was thinking of going to the hardware store
12:06:58 <orbii> you should buy some m4 screws.
12:08:07 <Halcyon> Why?
12:08:14 <Ampera> because he needs some m4 screws
12:08:21 <Ampera> fucking rude
12:08:28 <Halcyon> :P
12:09:10 <Halcyon> I have $100 gift card to use, I was thinking indoor plants or something
12:09:30 * Ampera digs a hole in the ground, shoves Halcyon into it, pours water over him
12:10:08 * Halcyon engages Ampera in a mud fight
12:12:10 <Halcyon> I still want to build some kind of wireless water level meter which I can then monitor and graph using my network monitoring thingo
12:15:49 <Ampera> I think I might make a quick NeXTSTEP VM, just to see how it compares to WindowMaker
12:16:10 <Halcyon> You should also do a fekking video about it Ampera (but upload it to Vimeo) :P
12:16:28 <Ampera> I have to pay to use Vimeo.
12:16:33 <Halcyon> LBRY then
12:17:08 <Ampera> I'll upload it to YouTube. If they get popular then I'll start looking into multiple distribution channels.
12:17:24 <Halcyon> Ahh fuck ya then
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12:17:29 <Ampera> I've just finished school and it's been the Christmas holiday, maybe I'll get to writing scripts over my New Year's holiday.
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12:17:51 <Ampera> YouTube has the largest audience and it's the best way I could get people to even watch my videos.
12:19:04 <Halcyon> But Youtube also sucks
12:19:21 <Ampera> It's the only option for now.
12:19:27 <Halcyon> It's not
12:19:38 <Ampera> They also offer the best platform technologically, with the fewest and highest limits on what I can do.
12:19:54 <Ampera> Other platforms don't do that, and particularly with streaming, impose massive limits.
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12:20:49 <Halcyon> I'll give you a massive limit
12:21:13 <Ampera> You already do. If it weren't for you, I probably would have been able to actually kill myself.
12:21:26 <Halcyon> \o/
12:21:32 <Halcyon> Nawww you like me :P
12:21:42 <Ampera> Unfortunately.
12:22:15 <Halcyon> Hmmm it's going to be up to 35 degrees today, no wonder it felt a bit warm in here
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12:26:23 <steve30000000> The downside to being on IRC when playing with routers is it tends to disconnect/reconnect a lot
12:27:07 * Halcyon jiggles Steve's connection
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12:28:30 * orbii checks BOM .. Max: 36C :sadface.png:
12:28:39 Nick: steve30000000 is now known as steve30
12:28:46 <Halcyon> I have to work on Tuesday, it's going to be effing hot
12:28:56 <orbii> at least the prediction for Saturday/Sunday have dropped from the 40C they were claiming earlier in the week - now it's just 37C and 35C
12:29:31 <orbii> Mon: 38C Tue: 37C Wed: 37C Thu: 37C
12:29:32 <orbii> fun week
12:30:13 <Halcyon> I've been seconded back into uniform for a day on NYE as they are short of staff.
12:30:19 <orbii> yeah, screw that
12:30:26 <Halcyon> Which means walking around in the city, with long pants and boots during the day
12:35:59 <orbii> my partner just messaged me with "I am unashamed to say I, a grown ass woman, just bought a unicorn ottoman" .. i asked "Why would such an awesome purchase bring shame?"
12:36:07 <orbii> the world is a strange place.
12:40:24 <Halcyon> Hah
12:41:09 <Halcyon> You mean like this: https://www.bigw.com.au/product/kodu-plush-unicorn-ottoman/p/804875/
12:43:23 <steve30> Its cold here
12:43:37 * Halcyon cuddles Steve
12:43:53 <steve30> mmm
12:44:07 <Ampera> Halcyon, you should move here, it's nice and cool
12:44:14 <Halcyon> Oh I don't mind the heat
12:44:24 <Halcyon> I like it cold when I'm sleeping, warm every other time
12:44:45 <Ampera> I just want it cold
12:50:39 <Halcyon> I'm going to go shower, then go shopping
12:52:18 <Ampera> https://prnt.sc/qg7ion Halcyon
12:52:38 <Halcyon> Oh yay!
12:52:56 <Halcyon> Are you recording it too for a video?
12:59:17 <Ampera> No.
12:59:26 <Ampera> Even if I was, I'd make sure it works first before I record it.
12:59:35 <Ampera> Long story short it doesn't, I may have to use real hardware at some point.
13:02:07 <orbii> Halcyon: exactly that product, yes.
13:03:13 * orbii ponders buying more odroids
13:04:35 <orbii> i already ordered an MC1, but i want more :(
13:11:59 * orbii contemplates a world with 1x XU4 cloudshell1, 4x XU4 cloudshell2, 1x MC1 4-node cluster
13:19:44 <Halcyon> Orbii, you can set up my networking monitoring if you like :P
13:19:55 <Halcyon> I have Zabbix running but don't have much data feeding into it yet
13:20:01 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Worth getting from the dumpster? Satellite T230D https://t.co/FYRP0TbS1h
13:22:52 <Ampera> Halcyon, what I am going to do is get to cleaning the space I need to film videos in
13:23:08 <Halcyon> Heh fair enough :)
13:23:09 <Ampera> I'm going to try to get the video I am planning to film recorded before I leave.
13:23:23 <Halcyon> You going to be here in an hour or so ?
13:23:33 <Ampera> Here? I'll be cleaning.
13:23:40 <Halcyon> But you'll be around
13:23:44 <Halcyon> I'm just going to go shopping
13:23:49 <Ampera> In theory. I could put IRC up on my DAW
13:24:11 <Halcyon> You do whatever makes you happy. You could charge up your phone and I can just hit you up on Discord
13:24:49 <Ampera> I can run Discord on my DAW too
13:24:57 <Halcyon> Either way
13:24:59 <Ampera> and my phone is charged but the audio would sound like ass, particularly if I'm moving around
13:25:08 <Ampera> I can just use the home phone to call you if you want
13:25:26 <Halcyon> I'll just talk to you when I get back :)
13:25:27 <Ampera> er, maybe I can. I'll have to see if I have the PBX configured to do that.
13:29:17 <Ampera> the colour scheme on CDE's xterm and dtterm is fucking insane
13:29:38 <Ampera> CDE looks fucking neat but I might just have to use something more normal
13:57:19 <Ampera> yeah this machine is going back to windowmaker
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14:37:34 <orbii> Halcyon: i have a list of stuff i need to build for the home network already. :(
14:37:39 <Halcyon> :)
14:37:40 <orbii> it's all tracked in the TODO on the wiki
14:37:53 <orbii> i should make the partner do some of it - it would be good practice lol
14:38:03 <Halcyon> Hah
14:38:13 <Halcyon> I love how you spent time setting up a Wiki, instead of just doing the things on the list :P
14:38:48 <orbii> well, that's just a case of installing mediawiki though
14:38:59 <orbii> albeit, i did hack it to be multi-domain supported, and a few things
14:39:34 <orbii> the wiki stuff is also for my hosting stuff, as well as the home network
14:39:41 <orbii> (two wikis)
14:40:47 <orbii> besides, setting up software requires testing and evaluation - cos no decisions on software have been made
14:40:54 <orbii> so that probably means setting up test VMs, etc
14:40:59 <orbii> if i knew the choices - it would be simpler.
14:42:17 <orbii> i have documented some options i'd like to explore for each, though
14:49:25 <Halcyon> I wouldn't mind a wiki for all my various notes and bits and pieces
14:49:28 <Halcyon> It's a good idea
14:49:57 <Halcyon> Anyway time do to housework
14:50:05 * Ampera sneezes at Halcyon
14:50:18 <orbii> yeah, i was storing a lot of my stuff in a text file, but realised it was getting too much
14:50:29 <orbii> wiki seemed the easiest approach, and easy enough to deploy
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15:22:01 * Halcyon enjoys Ampera's sneeze shower
15:22:10 * Ampera hugs Halcyon
15:22:14 <Halcyon> :)
15:22:30 <Halcyon> I was just passing-by, still doing housework :)
15:22:54 <Ampera> :(
15:23:03 <Halcyon> Awww
15:23:11 <Ampera> I've taken a break from cleaning, I probably won't be able to film enough before I leave
15:23:19 <steve30000> I should do some cleaning later
15:23:19 <Halcyon> How is your cleaning going? :P
15:23:31 <Ampera> If I can get everything cleaned, squared away, and written by Sunday, I'll have one day to film everything
15:23:39 <Ampera> which is actually an incredibly complicated load of shit.
15:23:41 <Halcyon> Yay
15:23:53 <Ampera> Otherwise it will have to wait +2 weeks.
15:25:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @Cointelegraph: YouTube starts to remove bans on crypto-related content, but YouTubers are still looking for decentralized platforms as…
15:26:44 Quit: steve30000 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
15:46:41 <mrmobodies1> Here's a joke Steve3000, Steve quit 3000 times?
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15:57:00 <Ampera> That's a strange hostname, steve30 I just notice
15:57:05 <Ampera> in-addr.arpa
15:57:25 <Ampera> huh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.arpa
15:57:47 <mrmobodies1> scoates... Steve Coates?
15:58:34 <steve30> Stephen Coates to be precise
16:00:10 <steve30> Ampera, looks like something to do with reverse DNS lookup
16:00:22 <Ampera> Yeah, apparently something something holdover
16:00:25 <Ampera> what got me was the ARPA bit
16:07:58 <mrmobodies1> I remember when Virginmedia took over NTLbusiness back 5 years they gave me a static IP block and it had my name on them when looking them up with my house address instead of theirs. I argued with them threatening to leave until they changed it.
16:09:45 <mrmobodies1> Oh yes and they N/A in the registratant of domain and refused to change on complaint from the Nominet.
16:15:32 <mrmobodies1> Over the Christmas I have been having problems with the powerline adapters
16:15:52 <mrmobodies1> Next year I am going to dig outside to get some network cables through.
16:17:49 <mrmobodies1> the previous occupants decorated he house and built an extension in 2010... and forgot about the network cables.
16:19:50 <steve30> With the popularity of 802.11 I wouldn't have thought most average people would put network cables in
16:21:21 <mrmobodies1> I do have wifi points, ten of them.
16:21:43 <mrmobodies1> I setup a bridge but the wifi signals are too poor to reach.
16:21:50 <Ampera> mrmobodies1, meshnet or is your house simply massive?
16:21:55 <steve30> It will be worth putting cables in if you want them. But I'd imagine a lot of people wouldn't see the point.
16:22:02 <mrmobodies1> It has 6 bedrooms
16:22:33 <mrmobodies1> I have my study room upstairs so I would want to get 7 cables in there or so
16:22:40 <Ampera> mrmobodies1, that's not an indication of size, mine has four, and has one AP
16:23:03 <mrmobodies1> it is more to do with interference.
16:23:05 <Ampera> If I ever build a house I'd want to put in high grade twisted pair and optical fibres to ever room.
16:23:18 <mrmobodies1> That''ll be nice
16:23:41 <mrmobodies1> I could plan for that some ducting when I renovate in future
16:23:47 <mrmobodies1> hidden in the walls of course
16:24:07 <Ampera> If I am truly building a house, I'd also want some large diameter blank conduit going to at least the major rooms
16:24:31 <Ampera> so if at some point in the future I need to run a new type of cable to rooms, I can simply shove it into conduit leading to blanked boxes, and terminate.
16:24:31 <T3sl4> Ampera, happy fucking christmas
16:24:34 <mrmobodies1> In my old house it was hokey pockey but the lintels got in the way.
16:24:50 <mrmobodies1> So that's where all those aps come from
16:25:15 <mrmobodies1> and my friend who owns a house twice the size uses one and it goes to his back garden from the garage.
16:25:42 <mrmobodies1> no problems for him using one
16:26:06 <Ampera> What's wrong T3sl4?
16:26:09 <Ampera> I didn't do anything
16:27:01 <mrmobodies1> conduit? for me I would want something I could open... to put more cables in or remove them.
16:27:02 * T3sl4 noogies Ampera
16:27:19 <Ampera> mrmobodies1, large size PVC pipe basically
16:27:52 <Ampera> just like you'd have an outlet or telcom box that's populated in each room, simply have blank boxes with blank cover plates, and have the conduit go from each room point to point
16:27:55 <mrmobodies1> I have seen them over copper pipes underfloor
16:28:50 <mrmobodies1> Yeh, when I'll get down to that'll be something
16:29:26 <mrmobodies1> I am waiting for 10gbps and later. It'll be nice for me to have both. for my experiments.
16:29:39 <mrmobodies1> I mean fibre and cat cables to my workshop patch panel
16:30:00 <Halcyon> I'm back Ampera
16:30:00 <Halcyon> :)
16:30:30 * Ampera licks Halcyon sensually
16:30:30 <mrmobodies1> I found this 8 bit isa card.
16:30:43 * Halcyon is aroused
16:30:46 <mrmobodies1> TIMENET RS-485 by JVF consultant.
16:30:52 <Halcyon> Oh nice :)
16:30:57 <Halcyon> Wha are you doing with it?
16:31:02 <mrmobodies1> Zzolog Z8018006VSC
16:31:15 <mrmobodies1> I found it when I was moving and sorting thing sout
16:31:22 <mrmobodies1> I am still unpacking from the move
16:31:34 <mrmobodies1> Maybe'll poist some pictures later
16:31:34 <Halcyon> Anything you are thinking of throwing out, let Ampera and I know. We love old crap :)
16:31:44 <mrmobodies1> Ohh actually I have an idea.
16:31:51 <Ampera> What nation are you in, mrmobodies1?
16:31:54 <mrmobodies1> I'll setup an old computer, pentium 3 with an isa slot
16:31:56 <mrmobodies1> England
16:32:01 <mrmobodies1> Cambridgshire
16:32:08 <Halcyon> Is that near Steve?
16:32:11 <mrmobodies1> I have a netowkr HP kvm switch
16:32:15 <mrmobodies1> Load windows 98 on it
16:32:20 <mrmobodies1> and let you all have some fun with it
16:32:26 <Halcyon> I would like that :)
16:32:36 <mrmobodies1> I'lll even hookup a network serial port adaptor and port forward
16:32:39 <Halcyon> Communal EEVblog vintage computer
16:33:26 <Halcyon> Oh you are quite far from Steve
16:33:27 <mrmobodies1> I have some fans arrving for the KVM switch but it does 2048 by 2014, very responsive.
16:33:29 <Halcyon> He is in Rotherham
16:33:52 <Halcyon> For a Pentium III, I'm sure 1024x768 is plenty
16:34:06 <mrmobodies1> South Yorkshire.. . where the nice people are.
16:34:10 <mrmobodies1> Or Yorkshire
16:34:28 <mrmobodies1> In fact I got on here just from my sound cards
16:34:47 <mrmobodies1> I connect my audio to the sound card for the SRS3D effect I get from it
16:35:02 <mrmobodies1> Aztech 2320 ISA with a 28k rockwell modem
16:35:16 <Halcyon> Ah I remember the Rockwell modems, they were excellent
16:35:23 <Halcyon> Before they were Conexant
16:35:53 <mrmobodies1> that 28k perform better than the supplied US Robotics win modem in 2001
16:36:03 <mrmobodies1> I threw it out
16:36:21 <mrmobodies1> when I discovered other modems were performing much better
16:36:27 <Halcyon> Yup, doesn't surprise me. When I worked in retail computing, we only sold Rockwell modems. They caused us the least number of issues in terms of speed and reliability
16:36:58 <mrmobodies1> I got 56k one with an S video input for £5 that year down the bootsale
16:37:07 <mrmobodies1> they perform good as well
16:37:16 <Halcyon> It wasn't unusual to get the full 56Kbit/sec out of one of those modems even with overheads (due to compression)
16:37:17 <mrmobodies1> oh that was a Rock RCV type can't remember
16:37:34 <Halcyon> I remember constantly getting 6-7 KB/sec down
16:37:43 <mrmobodies1> If I was lucky I got 4k up
16:37:49 <mrmobodies1> 4kb
16:38:51 <mrmobodies1> In the next couple of days I'll try and it set it all up and you can all have a play with it.
16:38:57 <Halcyon> I don't remember upload speeds on dial-up? It was more or less symmetric wasn't it?
16:39:30 <mrmobodies1> I observed it when using that Download Accelerator plus back in the day
16:39:44 <mrmobodies1> I remembered all I had to do is to rename a directory into a file and the ads disappeared.
16:39:58 <mrmobodies1> in 1999 I think
16:40:23 <Halcyon> Hah
16:40:28 <Halcyon> Those were largely bullshit
16:40:46 <Halcyon> I think the best tool was that download manager which could resume downloads
16:40:47 <mrmobodies1> it did speed things up a bit but I didn't use the addons
16:40:50 <Halcyon> I forget the name of it?
16:40:59 <mrmobodies1> neding in zilla?
16:41:01 <mrmobodies1> or something
16:41:05 <Halcyon> Mmm I don't think so?
16:41:16 <mrmobodies1> I know there were clones of it
16:41:58 <Halcyon> GetRight
16:42:00 <Halcyon> That was it
16:42:08 <mrmobodies1> I'll look now
16:42:34 <Halcyon> http://getright.com/getright_history.html
16:42:43 <mrmobodies1> http://www.geardownload.com/images/screenshot/14719.gif
16:42:44 <mrmobodies1> Yes!
16:42:51 <Halcyon> That's the one
16:42:56 <Halcyon> Although that's the XP version
16:43:13 <mrmobodies1> I like it
16:43:28 <Halcyon> It was so good being able to pause downloads, disconnect dial-up and resume again the next day
16:43:34 <Halcyon> (or whenever someone needed the phone)
16:44:16 <mrmobodies1> $19.99 sounds okay
16:44:41 <Halcyon> It's hardly needed anymore since most browsers and file managers will resume downloads
16:45:01 <Ampera> I need to pee but I am too lazy to get up.
16:45:02 <mrmobodies1> I think with that DAP, they mentioned that even if brought, they still had the right to display ads and I thought no... not paying for that.
16:45:14 <Halcyon> Well you have two options Ampera :P
16:45:18 <mrmobodies1> Well what I want it for is to add mirrors
16:45:20 <Halcyon> One of them involves watersports
16:45:33 <mrmobodies1> that's what I use DAP for as I have many lines
16:45:42 <Ampera> I think I have a third option: suicide
16:45:46 <Ampera> that's always a good idea
16:45:53 * steve30 watches "The Rolls Royce"
16:45:56 <mrmobodies1> laughing gas is a good one
16:45:59 <Halcyon> Well... you still end up pissing yourself with suicide
16:46:01 <mrmobodies1> you get the last laugh
16:46:23 <Ampera> Halcyon, oh that would be so fucking hot
16:46:23 <Ampera> er
16:46:35 <Halcyon> :P
16:46:40 <Halcyon> You're a strange egg
16:46:42 <Halcyon> But I like you
16:46:59 <mrmobodies1> what if it was easter?
16:46:59 * Halcyon saves Ampera the trouble and pees on him
16:47:02 <Ampera> I fantasize about dying all the time
16:47:03 <mrmobodies1> easter egg
16:47:10 <Halcyon> Heh
16:47:35 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon merry xmas
16:47:35 <Ampera> alright fine I'll get up
16:47:38 <Ampera> and grab a knife
16:47:41 <Halcyon> Awww hey T3sl4
16:47:46 * Halcyon offers T3sl4 some ham
16:47:51 <T3sl4> \o/
16:48:03 <T3sl4> dad made beef rib roast, twas quite excellent
16:48:06 <mrmobodies1> ...ham radio
16:48:06 <Halcyon> Oh, T3sl4, want to see what I'm making tonight?
16:48:10 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ4Wk9dqPf0
16:48:15 <Halcyon> That exact recipe
16:48:24 <T3sl4> as long as it's not the sex
16:48:26 <T3sl4> ...nvm
16:48:39 <Halcyon> Nah, Ampera is too young for sex
16:49:40 <Halcyon> I'm interested to see how this LBRY thing works.
16:49:48 <Halcyon> It seems interesting
16:50:42 <Ampera> Halcyon, I will state that the age of consent in NY is not strictly 18
16:51:09 <Halcyon> It's 16 here
16:51:22 <Ampera> so then why are you saying I'm too young for sex or etc
16:51:22 <Halcyon> But since I'm of a "position of responsibility" for me it's 18
16:51:26 <Ampera> oh
16:51:27 <Ampera> >:(
16:51:46 <Halcyon> It basically prevents teachers etc... having relationships with students
16:52:12 <Ampera> Here a teacher can only rape a student if they're male.
16:52:18 <Halcyon> Wha?
16:52:20 <Ampera> otherwise it's de-facto legal.
16:52:25 <Halcyon> Riiiight
16:52:30 <Halcyon> What a load of shit
16:52:47 <Halcyon> I tend to see more female offenders making the news
16:52:48 <T3sl4> it's a lot harder to get sympathy as a male victim
16:52:52 <Ampera> ^^^
16:53:07 <Ampera> If you're male, nobody gives a shit about you here.
16:53:17 <mrmobodies1> it's no problem for me, I am not risk from that because many people find me very strange and tend to stay away.
16:53:22 <Ampera> You can cry or die and you're basically fucking gravel.
16:53:26 <Halcyon> T3sl4, I agree. Domestic Violence is the same.
16:53:57 <Ampera> and despite that, women in society still cry that they get treated unfairly. It's an unequal street no matter which side of it you're on.
16:53:57 <Halcyon> mrmobodies1: Nothing wrong with strange
16:54:07 <Halcyon> I mean, look at steve30, he loves being tied up and spanked :P
16:54:28 <Ampera> that's not strange
16:54:35 <Ampera> that's pedestrian to the nth degree.
16:54:49 <Halcyon> It's unequal because women frequently get the soft touch. If they want equality, I'm sure a whole bunch would be complaining that they get treated too harshly or aren't listened to.
16:55:18 <mrmobodies1> That's nice to know... not strange
16:55:28 <Ampera> That's why nobody minds lesbians or trans men
16:55:37 <Ampera> since women can, within society, do whatever the fuck and get away with it
16:56:02 <Ampera> a woman wearing a suit walking down the street would draw far less vitriol and ire than a man walking down the street in a dress.
16:56:07 <mrmobodies1> I think I met one of those before... they locked themselves in a room.
16:56:20 <mrmobodies1> phoned up and said I was going to break the door down
16:56:25 <mrmobodies1> I disconnected my servers.
16:56:35 <mrmobodies1> they come out pointing fingers and screaming at me
16:56:43 <mrmobodies1> in a place where there was a camera
16:56:47 <mrmobodies1> that showed them up
16:57:00 <mrmobodies1> 3 years ago
16:57:14 <mrmobodies1> it was frightening for me but it was camera and nobody got hurt or such
16:57:28 <Halcyon> mrmobodies1: What the hell are you on about? :P
16:57:36 <mrmobodies1> victims
16:57:43 * Ampera locks Halcyon into a room
16:57:45 <mrmobodies1> someone tried to make out as if I was going to attack them
16:57:52 <Halcyon> Are you on my side of the door Ampera?
16:57:54 <mrmobodies1> but they forgot there were cameras up
16:58:08 <Ampera> Halcyon, depends on what you'd do to me if I were.
16:58:16 <Halcyon> *smirk*
16:58:31 <Halcyon> Have a LAN party?
16:58:38 <mrmobodies1> now I carry around a dictaphone and record when I feel threatened.
16:58:42 <Ampera> fucking yeet
16:58:43 <mrmobodies1> Lan part motherboard?
16:59:06 <Halcyon> Last time I had a LAN party with mates probably would have been around 1997
16:59:21 <Ampera> We'll have one when I come over
16:59:21 <mrmobodies1> Remember Unreal Tournament?
16:59:22 <Halcyon> These days it's all boring internet stuff
16:59:26 <Ampera> so long as we can play counter strike
16:59:47 <Halcyon> Heh, yes. Although I was never really a gamer, but I was the only on who know how to set up a LAN and TCP/IP
16:59:54 <Halcyon> *kew
16:59:56 <Halcyon> *knew
17:00:14 <mrmobodies1> I use to run some games. Turbo mode sniping in Morpheus was fun.
17:00:34 <Ampera> Oh I run game servers to this day
17:00:40 <Ampera> none of them particularly active, but still running
17:00:44 <Halcyon> If I recall people mostly played Quake/Quake II, Doom, that sort of thing
17:00:53 <Ampera> Halcyon, well if you stopped in 1997 that's why
17:00:59 <Halcyon> Yu
17:01:04 <Halcyon> Yup
17:01:04 <Ampera> after that people did counter strike, unreal gold/unreal tournament
17:01:15 <Ampera> TFC was quite popular, and I think some people did half-life a bit
17:01:27 <Halcyon> I've always wanted to play Sim City 2000 Network Edition
17:01:30 <Halcyon> I have it, never played it
17:01:49 <Ampera> I've always wanted to do CivNet
17:02:09 * T3sl4 rails Halcyon
17:02:11 <mrmobodies1> I remember at school where we all had different graphics cards and they displayed stuff differently in Solder of Fortune when we played
17:02:21 <Halcyon> \o/
17:02:24 <Halcyon> Again!
17:02:26 <Halcyon> :P
17:02:53 <Halcyon> Don't you mean 'Sodder of Fortune' ?
17:02:54 <Halcyon> :P
17:03:04 <mrmobodies1> 3dfs vooodoo, Kyro, Nvidia 256, Matrox...
17:03:15 <Halcyon> Oh speaking of 3DFX, I have two of them
17:03:20 <Halcyon> Both Voodoo II cards
17:03:24 <Ampera> SLI time
17:03:31 <Halcyon> One 8MB and one 12MB
17:03:34 <Ampera> awww
17:03:37 <mrmobodies1> soldier of fortune oops
17:03:45 <Halcyon> Ampera, otherwise I would
17:03:48 <mrmobodies1> I have a few Vooodoo 2's
17:03:58 <Ampera> I have a couple Voodoo 1's, one of them not working
17:04:00 <Halcyon> mrmobodies1: If you don't want them, I'll buy one or two
17:04:03 <mrmobodies1> Never used them I got them in sli down the bootsale
17:04:05 <Halcyon> They are quite expensive
17:04:11 <Ampera> a couple of Mach64/GXs to go with them
17:04:14 <Ampera> one 2MB one 4MB
17:04:24 <mrmobodies1> I got a Voodoo 5500 AGP
17:04:29 <Halcyon> Fancy
17:04:34 <Ampera> I gotta go upstairs and grab some edibles
17:04:35 <Ampera> brb
17:04:51 * Halcyon steals Ampera's chair while he is away
17:06:09 <mrmobodies1> I might give away a few things... can't have them forever
17:06:09 * Ampera has some brownies
17:06:19 <mrmobodies1> when I am dead they maybe dumped
17:06:33 <Halcyon> Well keep us in mind mrmobodies1, happy to obviously cover costs plus a bit more.
17:06:43 <Halcyon> I'd also like to send something to Ampera as gifts
17:06:46 <Ampera> We're both always eager for stuff. I know of a super cheap way to get DHL shipping from the UK if you'd want to head over
17:06:55 <Ampera> *head over -> send stuff over
17:06:58 <mrmobodies1> I have some old MFM hard drives... Tandon make
17:07:06 <Halcyon> Nice
17:07:12 <mrmobodies1> IBM 8595
17:07:23 <mrmobodies1> £ down Derby sootsale 2001
17:07:25 <mrmobodies1> £4
17:07:29 <Halcyon> I think the hall effect sensors use to go in some of those Tandon drives?
17:07:37 <Halcyon> Nice one
17:07:39 <mrmobodies1> Lots os Ida cand Cirrus logic vga stuff
17:07:42 * Ampera gives Halcyon some strange smelling brownies
17:07:53 <mrmobodies1> oh it squeaked alot
17:07:59 <Halcyon> You had them down your pants didn't you Ampera?
17:08:05 <Ampera> no
17:08:19 <Halcyon> Why do they smell like arse then?
17:08:23 * Ampera notes that they smell like a mix between skunk and freshly mowed lawn
17:08:37 <Halcyon> Heh
17:08:44 <mrmobodies1> They say Token Ring worked at 4/16 mbpsor so
17:08:52 <Halcyon> Indeed it did
17:08:59 <Ampera> being high is fucking awesome Halcyon you should try it
17:09:04 <mrmobodies1> but I have a card named Ollicom that said 4/16/100 mbps on it
17:09:09 <Halcyon> Ampera: I can't
17:09:11 <mrmobodies1> with each with their own light
17:09:12 <Halcyon> Not allowed
17:09:14 <Ampera> why not
17:09:17 <Ampera> pf
17:09:18 <Halcyon> Against the law
17:09:24 <Ampera> so it is here too
17:09:26 <Halcyon> Also, drugs are bad
17:09:26 <Ampera> that stopped me.
17:09:44 <Ampera> you drink alcohol, that's a drug.
17:09:49 <Halcyon> It's not illegal
17:09:54 <Halcyon> I also don't go to work drunk
17:09:55 <Ampera> but is it bad?
17:09:59 <mrmobodies1> they save love is a drug too.
17:10:01 <Halcyon> Sure, in large amounts
17:10:03 <Ampera> I never told you to go to work high
17:10:11 <Ampera> well so can weed be
17:10:18 <Halcyon> Drugs stay in your system for quite some time
17:10:28 <Halcyon> I wouldn't be able to drive a car for a least a week
17:10:28 <Ampera> I wouldn't know, never had them
17:10:58 <Ampera> That doesn't sound accurate.
17:10:58 <Halcyon> Back shortly, need to unload the dishwasher
17:11:10 <Ampera> I know you can get long highs on some weed, but I thought most of it ended in a day or two
17:12:59 <mrmobodies1> One thing I am pleased about this year.
17:13:11 <mrmobodies1> I got my own downstairs room in the extension.
17:13:19 <mrmobodies1> so I can make as much noise as I want.
17:13:29 <mrmobodies1> I got my own kitchen there
17:13:44 <mrmobodies1> 6m by 3m room for my workshop
17:14:23 <mrmobodies1> my old place was 2.8m by 2.2m
17:14:34 <mrmobodies1> lots of space to do experiments
17:15:47 <mrmobodies1> It looks like I have to go to sleep now.
17:15:58 <mrmobodies1> 06:17am in the morning.
17:17:27 <Halcyon> Back
17:17:40 <Ampera> Halcyon, I can't find that weed highs last longer than a day or so
17:17:57 <Halcyon> It's not the high, it's the level of THC still in the body
17:18:04 <Ampera> It makes no sense either, as the rate of metabolism for most chemicals in the body like that.
17:18:08 <Ampera> Well then what's the problem
17:18:09 <Halcyon> It also depends on the person
17:18:28 <Ampera> If your mind is with it, why would it matter how much THC you have in you
17:18:48 <Ampera> afaik they can't breathalyze THC, and you can only be drug tested here if you've committed a crime.
17:18:53 <Ampera> (or agree to one)
17:18:54 <Halcyon> Well I guess the argument is, there has to be a baseline and that baseline says, having ANY in your system has some effect
17:19:03 <Halcyon> And considering it's illegal, people shouldn't have it anyway
17:19:15 <Ampera> Isn't it legal on a per-state level in Australia?
17:19:34 <Ampera> It's completely descheduled in Canada too.
17:19:41 <Halcyon> Canberra is the only territory where is it lawful to smoke at home, but you still can't drive a car under the influence.
17:19:43 <Ampera> some state in the US have an effective legalization on it as well.
17:19:50 <Ampera> I never told you to
17:19:54 <Ampera> but the influence doesn't last a week
17:20:09 <Halcyon> But as a Police officer, I can't have any drugs in my system, at all. Ever.
17:20:37 <Ampera> but you drink
17:20:41 <Halcyon> Illegal drugs
17:20:57 <Ampera> legal in Canberra
17:21:03 <Halcyon> Yes but I don't work in Canberra
17:21:10 <Halcyon> I'm bound by the laws of my state
17:21:14 <Ampera> I never said you did
17:21:17 <Ampera> and I never said you weren't
17:21:27 <Ampera> but if you were to go to Canberra, could you do weed
17:21:31 <Ampera> legally
17:21:39 <Halcyon> I also have a security clearance to maintain
17:21:59 <Halcyon> Yes as a civilian this is true, but I could still be dealt with by the Police
17:22:30 <Halcyon> I'm held to a higher account than just what the law says.
17:22:43 <Halcyon> And I don't disagree with that.
17:24:03 <Halcyon> It's a bit like the military, just because doing something won't get you into trouble as a civilian, doesn't mean you can't be disciplined of even dismissed
17:24:07 <Halcyon> *or
17:25:27 <Halcyon> Anyway I need to get cheeses and snacks out, guests will be arriving shortly :)
17:25:32 * Halcyon cuddles Ampera
17:25:38 * Ampera smacks Halcyon for being a sissy
17:25:47 <Halcyon> Harder ;-)
17:27:12 * Ampera smacks DogWomble harder
17:28:32 <DogWomble> Welcome to the EEVBlog dialy smackfest
17:28:39 <DogWomble> Please be seated and wait your turn
17:29:17 * Ampera gets ready for a smacking good time
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17:30:14 * Ampera raises a hand
17:31:04 <orbii> hi
17:31:18 <DogWomble> hey orbii
17:31:31 <orbii> how goes it?
17:32:31 <DogWomble> yeah doing ok, how be you?
17:32:41 <orbii> not bad. glad it's the weekend.
17:34:21 <DogWomble> i'm avoiding making reference to a very awfulk piece of music
17:34:51 <orbii> oh, i see.
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18:34:25 <Ampera> Hi ThunderSqueak, how do
18:34:36 <ThunderSqueak> Hi there
18:34:40 <ThunderSqueak> doing ok
18:35:12 <ThunderSqueak> I got a new 3D printer in the mail today, it is so cute... small SLA machine
18:36:08 <Ampera> picture?
18:36:58 <ThunderSqueak> https://amzn.to/2EVoZQ7
18:37:03 <ThunderSqueak> that was marked down to 165
18:37:15 <Ampera> oh that's quite neat
18:37:21 <Ampera> wait
18:37:24 <Ampera> 165
18:37:29 <ThunderSqueak> yes
18:37:29 <Ampera> holy fucking shit
18:37:36 <ThunderSqueak> so I bought one
18:37:37 <ThunderSqueak> :>
18:37:51 <ThunderSqueak> I tweeted about it when I saw it
18:37:57 <Ampera> I mean I have a filament printer and I don't use it
18:38:12 <ThunderSqueak> I used mine
18:38:22 <ThunderSqueak> but sick of repairing it, this has far fewer moving parts
18:38:36 <Ampera> I don't know if you've seen the video of a load of people beating the shit out of each other in a mall's jerky store
18:38:51 <ThunderSqueak> nope, not really intersted in those types of videos
18:38:57 <Ampera> well it was news
18:39:06 <Ampera> not that you'd be particularly interested in that
18:39:13 <Ampera> but it's been making rounds and it happened near where I live
18:39:17 <Ampera> I just happened to find that interesting
18:39:26 <ThunderSqueak> but you have to admit, 165 for that was a decent deal
18:39:30 <ThunderSqueak> that was shipped too
18:39:32 <Ampera> aye
18:39:42 <Ampera> I think mine was 300-400 bucks
18:39:48 <Ampera> and it isn't a very nice machine either
18:40:02 <ThunderSqueak> my other printer was like 1700 when it came out
18:40:09 <Ampera> cor
18:40:20 <ThunderSqueak> but, damn thing keeps breaking down
18:40:27 <ThunderSqueak> sick of throwing money at it
18:40:42 <ThunderSqueak> the heated bed burned up this last time
18:41:55 <Ampera> What mine does is it keeps shooting hot filament back inside of itself
18:41:59 <Ampera> and also clogging/jamming
18:42:03 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
18:42:16 <Ampera> but it was a christmas gift so
18:42:16 <ThunderSqueak> new printer is apparently great for D&D minis
18:42:18 <Ampera> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
18:42:48 <ThunderSqueak> yeah
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