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01:12 <steve30> hi
02:46 <Halcyon> Hey Steve
03:17 <steve30> I downloaded a couple of How Its Mades.
03:25 <Halcyon> I love that show
03:35 <steve30> VLC struggles with the files for some reason. SMPlayer works fine though.
05:35 <Halcyon> Did you get though KUA or Vicious?
06:41 <steve30> not finished yet. Up to series 5
07:09 <Halcyon> Hahaha did you see the episode where they test drive the Rolls Royce?
09:43 <steve30> not yet
09:57 <Halcyon> One of my faves
18:57 <steve30> The Canadian How its made guy has a cuter voice than the English one.
20:30 <steve30> oh, according to wikipedia, he's gay
29:39 <Halcyon> Oh the big gay
29:40 <Halcyon> Yes
29:47 <Halcyon> He is an ex swimmer
33:34 <Halcyon> Hey Steve, if you have a Plex account, you should be able to stream everything from my server without downloading it first
37:56 <steve30> No chance at your kind of speeds
38:05 <Halcyon> You'd be surprised
38:25 <Halcyon> Go to plex.tv, sign up for a free account and Ill add you
38:31 <Halcyon> Can only give it a go
38:45 <Halcyon> I can upload at 8 Mbps
39:08 <steve30> With that many gigabytes of video, I want to hang on to them to watch later :)
39:19 <Halcyon> Sure and you have that option
39:28 <Halcyon> But you can try before you download
39:54 <Halcyon> For example, Schitts Creek, great US series
40:14 <steve30> What's that about?
40:17 * steve30 googles
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04:00 <Nothing\> aha i finally made my 555 "synthesizer" keyboard
04:45 <Nothing\> i basically just have the output go to a speaker and use a 4066 analog switch to switch the capacitor on the RC network to change the tone it generates
05:11 <steve30> cool
05:14 <Nothing\> the upshot is by combining different capacitors i can use more than just 4 tones
05:27 <Nothing\> so if i press multiple buttons i can get more tones out of it
05:53 <Nothing\> yeah i'd been trying to get it to work forever but i was really tired when i first tried so i kept mixing up the inputs and outputs on the 4066
06:29 <Nothing\> i'm thinking now i should connect the inputs of the 4066 to a linear feedback shift register to give it a random sequence
07:37 <Nothing\> not sure why, but the wave that comes out of the 555 isn't a square wave when i do it this way for some reason, seems to have a buncha harmonics to it, though come to think of it i shoulda done an FFT on it, i didn't think of it at the time
07:51 <Nothing\> but anyways, how've you been, steve30? up to anything noteworthy?
08:13 <steve30> Nothing particularly noteworthy :/
08:42 <Nothing\> right on, yeah other than this i've mostly been spending my days playing diablo 3 and watching youtube
08:56 <Nothing\> and boning up on math or reading app notes and such
09:18 <Nothing\> i found an interesting book on IC design by hans camenzind i've been going through
09:59 <Nothing\> i've really taken an interest in op amps and analog computing lately, too
10:39 <Nothing\> though analog computers aren't quite what i expected, i sorta expected they'd work they same as digital computers but use analog components to generate boolean logic, like logic gates made of op amps and such
11:04 <Nothing\> reality turned out to be much more interesting
13:04 <steve30> I took a look in a book about analogue computers in college once. The book was from the 1960s I think. The maths looked rather overwhelming for me.
13:32 <Nothing\> yeah it's got a lot to do with differential equations since the basis of them are integrators and differentiators
14:04 <Nothing\> if you're interested, there are a buncha youtube channels that demonstrate them in pretty layperson readable terms
14:36 <Nothing\> i barely know calculus myself, but i was able to follow the one video pretty well
15:12 <Nothing\> i know as much as knowing what a derivative is and what an integral are and have a vague idea of how you find them, but that's about it for my calculus knowledge
15:38 <Nothing\> and i can calculate them on my TI calculator or with a graphing calculator like desmos
16:01 <Nothing\> which i tell you, playing with those calculators has taught me quite a bit of math
16:17 <coppice_> steve30: analogue computers were quite interesting to work with, you only need high school calculus to understand them
16:26 <Nothing\> the other night just by playing around i figured out how to convert complex numbers in rectangular form into polar form and vice versa
17:00 <Nothing\> coppice_: yeah the one guy was saying you really don't need a lot of knowledge in math to use them, it just looks more intimidating than it really is, as is the case with most maths
17:46 <coppice_> Nothing\: are you expecting to find a square wave with no harmonic content? That would be novel
18:00 <Nothing\> coppice_: lol good point
18:08 <Nothing\> maybe i should have said it was lacking harmonics
18:44 <Nothing\> you know that's actually the whole reason astable multivibrators were made in the first place, was for the harmonics
18:51 <Nothing\> hence the name multivibrator
19:23 <Nothing\> it took me forever to figure out what was meant by that, but i'm guessing they'd just filter the signal for whatever harmonic frequency they were after
20:08 <Nothing\> i've tried to do the same forever but i could never get the band of my bandpass filters narrow enough to get just one harmonic, i'd always end up with combinations
20:44 <Nothing\> maybe an active filter or some different topology would have been better suited, it's definitely something i've gotta look into more
21:28 <Nothing\> or i'd try using a low pass filter filtering right up to the fundamental frequency, but i'd still end up with some weaker harmonics
23:20 <Nothing\> i tell you though, doing this stuff with a proper scope is a lot easier now. as opposed to using one of those jyetech DIY oscilloscope kits
31:45 <Nothing\> dang, i was gonna add to my catalog of chips i have but i can't find it so apparently i've gott start from scratch
32:43 <Nothing\> i must have nearly 100 different chips by now, not even sure what for, after a point i just sorta bought them for the sake of having them "just in case" rather than for any specific purpose
44:18 <Nothing\> asteohoesidoeaistoeaihoae
44:31 <Nothing\> i feel so hyper and energetic like i wanna do something, but i dunno what
50:52 <steve30> I just fired up the old Dell Pentium III. I think its disks are knackered.
51:35 <Nothing\> that's a shame, can't find the software online and make copies or something?
51:41 <Nothing\> i take it they're floppies?
51:52 <steve30> no, its HDDs
51:56 <Nothing\> ah
52:03 <Nothing\> that's a bit more problematic
52:17 <steve30> I have them backed up from years ago, all the data is on my modern PCs, but I fire the old machine up once in a while to play with it.
52:44 <Nothing\> i hate it when i can't get simple circuits to work, i'm tyring to get a 555 timer in astable so i can drive my lfsr but i can't get the damn thing working
52:46 <coppice_> The Pentium III was quite a high spot for Intel
53:18 <Nothing\> too many tiny errors, putting one pin in the pin next to the one i meant to, or forgetting to connect vcc, stupid stuff like that
54:35 <Nothing\> might help if i were using a 10k on R2 instead of a 220, i hate that the 10k and 220s in metal film resistors look almost exactly the same
56:16 <Nothing\> still nothing, bloody hell
57:22 <Nothing\> this is how you know you're too tired to be working with electronics
58:06 <coppice_> you know you are too tired when you touch a high voltage or there is a loud bang
58:38 <Nothing\> either that or that you're electroboom
58:50 <Nothing\> on the bright side, at least you're alive enough to hear said boom
59:49 <Nothing\> aha got it, turned out i had the reset pin on the wrong rail
00:39 <coppice_> my first boss got tired preparing a major demo of a large system, swapped two plugs and blew over a thousand driver and receiver chips. A team of wiremen had to work over night replacing them, and the system actually worked for the demo. A few weeks later he did the same thing
01:52 <Nothing\> hy i've got a question about scopes, if you ground one channel, do you need to ground the rest of them? cuz i've noticed when i ground channel 1 and then connect channel 2 to something, channel 2 will get a signal whether it's grounded or not, and grounding it doesn't seem to make any difference
02:08 <Nothing\> so i'm wondering if it's even necessary if channel 1's grounded to ground channel 2
02:34 <Nothing\> ah jeez man, that musta been a pain in the ass
02:48 <coppice_> you don't need to ground all the probes to see a signal, but the signal will be rather distorted if you don't ground each of them
02:53 <Nothing\> that's the thing about electronics, a tiny thoughtless error can destroy everything
03:01 <Nothing\> ah i got it
03:23 <Nothing\> i figured they're all common anyways so you ground one, you ground em all
03:24 <coppice_> you need very localised grounding to see a representative signal, without masses of ringing
06:26 <Nothing\> that's good to know, thanks
07:11 <Nothing\> speaking of ringing, that 555 i was using was ringing like a bell on the low end for some reason, i swapped it out with a 7555 and it fixed it
07:23 <Nothing\> really gotta invest in some more 7555s, these things are right nifty
07:47 <Nothing\> dunno why somebody would use a vanilla 555 when 7555s seem so much more superior
08:45 <Nothing\> well, now that i got that sorted out, i can start on the actual LFSR
10:26 <Nothing\> i hate that the 7000 series chips have such a low voltage range compared to the 4000 series, i'll have a design with all 4000s and can get away with just using a 9v battery, but throw one 7000 chip in there and you've gotta use a 7805 to drop the vcc voltage to 5v, it seems so superfluous
11:58 <Nothing\> i've been trying to get as many equivalent 4000 series chips as possible just to avoid it, i dunno why, but 7805s always give me such a headache with keeping a stable voltage, maybe cuz i use shitty 9v batteries and their voltage drops too much, i dunno
12:21 <T3sl4> 7805 drops out with 6.5-7V input
12:55 <coppice_> most modern devices pretending to be 7805s go lower
13:26 <Nothing\> yeah i find even with an 8v input they don't always go up to 5v
13:51 <Nothing\> i've heard you need at least 3v overhead to be sure, but that figure seems to change depending who you ask or which datasheet you consult
14:09 <Nothing\> that is, datasheets from different manufacturers
14:44 <Nothing\> but the 9vs i was using before were awful, they'd drop a volt or two if you just looked at them wrong
14:59 <Nothing\> the one had a short circuit current fresh out of the box of less than 100ma
15:14 <T3sl4> but less volts is fine for 74HC
15:33 <T3sl4> if you're using plain 7400 or LS, sucks to be you
20:18 <Nothing\> nah, HC
20:34 <Nothing\> but yeah i've accidentally run them on 9v before and they don't seem to mind, but i'd rather not risk it
21:09 <Nothing\> i wonder why 7400 chips have such tight restrictions on vcc where 4000 will go up to something like 20v usually
21:27 <Nothing\> it really sucks when you combine the two
22:31 <Nothing\> i also hate how people still refer to 7400 chips as being TTL, i thought for ages that 74HC were TTL and it blew my mind when i found out otherwise
23:55 <T3sl4> higher doping
24:14 <T3sl4> 7400 is TTL
24:24 <T3sl4> not all 74 families are
24:39 <T3sl4> almost all of them are CMOS now
26:01 <steve30> We're having indian takeaway tonight
26:03 <Nothing\> vanilla 7400 is TTL, but most 7400 chips these days are HC or some other variety of cmos
26:14 <Nothing\> not sure if LS are TTL, but i see those a lot as well
26:33 <Nothing\> steve30: lucky, i've been craving a good biryani
26:41 <Nothing\> with cashews and raisins mmmm
27:01 <Nothing\> i'm trying to convince my mom to make calf liver tonight
27:20 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
28:48 <Nothing\> zack, zack he's a lego maniac
29:17 <T3sl4> L,LS, S, F, H and a few others are TTL, most of which you don't see anymore on account of the suck
29:26 <Nothing\> i hate how dry my sinuses get in the winter
30:27 <Nothing\> T3sl4: yeah the first set of ICs i got was in this surprise radioshack kit that had a bunch of 7400 chips in it, they were all HC except for some reason the 7406s which were ls for some reason
30:48 <Nothing\> bloody $50 for a a buncha jellybean logic :/
30:57 <T3sl4> ABT is one of the newer families with some bipolar, but it's a mix (BiCMOS)
31:00 <Nothing\> but i was just happy to be able to buy ICs locally
31:39 <Nothing\> i'd like to get some 74ACT14 i hear they have incredible rise times
32:04 <T3sl4> 7406 is high voltage output (30V), that's one thing CMOS can't do
32:13 <Nothing\> i've been wanting to try my hand at reflectrometry to determine the length of a coax cable but i don't think i can do it with a rise time of less than 20ns
32:26 <Nothing\> T3sl4: ah that might explain it
32:29 <coppice_> there are 74xx parts that can do 180V for nixies
32:32 <T3sl4> or LVC, 1ns or less even
32:47 <Nothing\> yeah aren't there specifci nixie tube drivers in 7400?
32:53 <Nothing\> i know i've seen relay drivers in 7400
35:17 <coppice_> there were some very esoteric 74xx parts that left us scratching our heads as we went through the catalogue
35:53 <Nothing\> i heard the 181, the ALU is kinda quirky
36:03 <Nothing\> though i made an ALU from one and found it wasn't too bad
36:17 <Nothing\> then again it's the only ALU i've ever used so i have no reference
36:42 <Nothing\> kinda wish it were 8 bits, that was about my only gripe with it
36:54 <Nothing\> and some of the functions seemed kinda useless
36:58 <coppice_> I'm not sure about quirks. it had limitations, which is why there are several later ALU parts
37:36 <Nothing\> what other ALU parts are there? i wouldn't mind having some other options when i make my breadboard computer
37:41 <T3sl4> the alt functions are "we've got all the functions we need, what's left on the k-map?"
37:43 <Nothing\> know anything off the top of your head?
37:54 <Nothing\> T3sl4: lol that's about what it felt like
38:27 <coppice_> if I remember rightly anything ending 81 is some kind of ALU part
40:48 <Nothing\> ah okay, sorta like the 173s are all latches
40:54 <Nothing\> er x73s
41:18 <Nothing\> my only gripe with the 181 is it was damn expensive on aliexperss, i think i paid over $20 for a tube of 10
41:38 <Nothing\> compared to maybe $1 or $2 for a tube of 10 jellybean logic chips
42:27 <Nothing\> i really do need to start ordering from more reputable suppliers than aliexpress, i swear a bunch of the chips i got were knockoffs
42:44 <Nothing\> like i really don't think the logo for TI is a picture of the united states
43:12 <Nothing\> and some of them just have no logo at all, like my 6502 just says MOS 6502 and nothing more
43:19 <Nothing\> and the MOS isn't even stylized
43:49 <coppice_> TI's logo is an image of Texas
44:03 <Nothing\> yeah, my 595s have a picture of the united states instead lol
44:35 <Nothing\> plus on a lot of them, if my fingers are oily like if i touch my face while i'm sweating, the printing on the chip will rub off very easily
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12:53 <Nothing\> yay i mgiht be getting a ktty today
13:10 <Nothing\> i'm gonna go look for one with my mom in a little bit
17:58 <T3sl4> :3
21:26 <Nothing\> lol indeed
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23:56 <Halcyon> Morning
25:03 <coppice_> which kind of TTY is a ktty?
25:10 <Halcyon> Heh
25:17 <coppice_> or did he mean kitty?
25:43 <coppice_> if so, he should be ashamed of using his mum to help get pussy
14:09 <T3sl4> some chicks get all the pussy https://i.imgur.com/RZMudHp.gif
14:19 <Halcyon> Awwwww cute chickens
18:35 * T3sl4 hugs Halcyon
18:49 <Halcyon> :)
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45:48 <Halcyon> Mm coffee
01:41 <Halcyon> OMG now the NZ volcano was caused by "climate change"
01:51 <Halcyon> Gees people are stupid
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11:35 * Ampera sneezes on Halcyon 
11:40 <Halcyon> :)
11:43 <Ampera> how do
11:47 <Halcyon> Not too bad, you?
11:50 <Ampera> :/
11:55 <Halcyon> What's wrong?
12:00 <Ampera> wish I wasn't me
12:12 <coppice_> OMG now "climate change" was caused by the NZ volcano
12:22 <Halcyon> :P
12:36 <Ampera> climate change has really pissed me off
12:43 <Ampera> more out of who is talking about it
13:01 <Halcyon> Greta?
13:03 <Ampera> while I'll never be against treating the environment well, I no longer care if climate change is a thing
13:12 <Ampera> purely because nobody is treating it with an ounce of seriousness or respect
13:29 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
13:44 <Ampera> people fearmong like nuts, and say we're going to all die in 13 minutes
13:46 <Halcyon> My biggest issues are these morons who protest (Rebellion Extinction etc...) don't really understand what they are protesting against.
14:07 <Ampera> Oh that's another thing, the people who are protesting, are protesting against the average person
14:11 <Halcyon> Secondly, climate activists focus on the wrong thing. They bang on about CO2 yet there is so much more we can be doing to clean up our act
14:37 <coppice_> In London we had people protesting against electric commuter trains
14:38 <Ampera> when the average person has the most ever so minute impact on climate change compared to manufacturing and power industries that are actually polluting.
14:39 <Halcyon> I think the number one priority we can start doing is reducing our reliance on plastics
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14:51 <Ampera> coppice_, in london you had an antifa rally
14:59 <Ampera> you're basically portland, just with more knives
15:03 <Halcyon> And stop polluting the oceans and planet with plastic waste
15:10 <Ampera> I disagree
15:15 <Ampera> find better ways to recycle plastics
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15:21 <Halcyon> Sure
15:23 <T3sl4> Halcyon: physical pollution affects local areas, CO2 and CH4 affect the globe
15:28 <Ampera> you've never going to get rid of them, they're ubiquitous, so find better ways to get rid of them
15:44 <Halcyon> The science is still out on CO2
16:01 <Ampera> Science is a word people use to scream at other people in order to get them to believe them.
16:03 <Halcyon> There are bigger polluters we can be focusing on
16:12 <T3sl4> ah, a denier i see
16:17 <Ampera> It's simply a tool within the culture of outrage we all live in
16:27 <Ampera> I don't deny science, but at the end of the day it's a method of thought, nothing else.
16:28 <Halcyon> I'm not denying anything
16:57 <Ampera> It's when the layperson uses it to try and win arguments is when I loose most of my ability to give a fuck
17:01 <T3sl4> you literally just denied a strong currently-known connection concerning CO2
17:13 <Halcyon> a "strong connection"
17:29 <coppice_> Halcyon: the science is pretty solid on CO2. Its everything else which is up in the air - global dimming, potential CH4 release, and so on
17:33 <Halcyon> There are studies which go against other studies. This is a field we are still learning about.
17:38 <Halcyon> We shouldn't be jumping the gun
18:12 <Ampera> honestly I'm having a hard enough time thinking of reasons not to kill myself in order to worry about everyone else doing the same
18:38 <T3sl4> the studies that go against other studies literally make up 3% of the total, and are all funded by oil companies or conservatives in bed with them
19:49 <Halcyon> Well let's all go back to living in the dark ages then
19:53 <coppice_> when it comes to trying to fix what we have done, we really haven't a clue where to start. That is the real problem. Most of what it proposed is either based on non-existant technology or counter productive
19:58 <Halcyon> Don't use your car or technology
20:58 <T3sl4> Halcyon, you live on a continent that contains more silicon and sunlight than most countries
21:15 <coppice_> banning most technology will have a similar effect to doing nothing - most people will die off, leaving just a modest population, like the earth had before our technological advances began
21:43 <T3sl4> you're literally parroting the second conservative talking point that "oh if we get rid of fossil fuels then we have literally no alternative and revert to the stone age wah wah"
21:45 <Ampera> We should be using our technology to find solutions to the problems caused by our other technology.
22:02 <Ampera> Not spending time and money on miserable parades where people get their teeth kicked in because they don't identify as more than three genders.
22:32 <coppice_> T3sl4: who is?
22:45 <Halcyon> Absolutely Ampera
22:48 <T3sl4> coppice_: the real trick is mandating certain technologies, which have the effect of depressing reproduction rates and therefore shrinking the human population without conflicting with any moral system
22:56 <T3sl4> Halcyon was ^^
23:22 <Ampera> but saying /we should do xyz/ is useless and near hypocritical.
23:32 <Ampera> I don't actually care what happens to the world or the environment because nothing will change if I do or don't.
23:39 <Ampera> I'll still be miserable and die in a hole, so fuck it
23:51 <coppice_> T3sl4: people would rather face the inevitable calamity than support forced restrictions on births
23:57 <T3sl4> Ampera: but that's okay, you've excepted yourself from this because you didn't consent to existence in the first place
24:08 <Ampera> fucking yeet
24:14 <Halcyon> Heh
24:23 * Ampera goes out to get some saltines
24:25 <Ampera> back in a minute
24:37 <Halcyon> Mmm salty
24:45 <T3sl4> coppice_: improving medical care especially early in life, and providing contraception when desired, are the point
24:47 <Halcyon> With cheese?
25:13 <T3sl4> china already tried the forced restrictions thing, which is also obviously not moral by most moral systems
25:39 * T3sl4 slaps Halcyon with a block of https://www.sartoricheese.com/our-cheese/reserve-cheese/black-pepper-bellavitano.html
26:13 <Halcyon> Mmm that actually looks really nice
26:20 <Halcyon> I love pepper
26:35 <coppice_> T3sl4: the China experience shows how problematic it is. even with their strong ability to enforce a solution, it has still only been marginally effective. If you restrict births too much, the old will die off rapidly due to a lack of care, so there is that positive effect
27:43 <T3sl4> the gates foundation approach is much less aggressive
27:55 <Ampera> The only sane geniuses of our world were the scientists behind the Manhattan and similar projects, because they realized the needs to get rid of a lot of people in a very short amount of time.
29:08 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/h9eH9xU
29:20 <coppice_> T3sl4: the gates foundation is trying to cure malaria. keeping people alive won't help
29:46 <Ampera> didn't we already do that with your shitty fucking tonic water?
29:53 <T3sl4> evidently, reproduction rate correlates super negatively with infant death rate
30:06 <T3sl4> i.e. families that suffer more deaths have way way more births
30:17 <coppice_> correlation != causation
30:25 <T3sl4> improve healthcare and the replacement rate drops to 2 or a little below even
30:30 <Ampera> coppice_, I think therefore I am
30:45 <T3sl4> it's correlated with all the countries rising out of poverty in the last century IIRC
30:55 <T3sl4> if it's not causative, it's damned close
31:07 <coppice_> in the west births appear to mostly be suppressed by the massive cost of raising kids. its hard to say if that is universal
31:23 <T3sl4> yep, that's a big part too
31:28 <coppice_> T3sl4: I assume you got an F in statistics
31:31 <T3sl4> wouldn't be surprised if that's the last bit that pushes it below 2
31:48 <T3sl4> coppice_: it felt like it, the prof printed all her notes in Comic Sans
32:36 <coppice_> so many things changed over the last century, you need to look very very carefully to detect true causation
33:19 <Ampera> the last century saw the legalization of homosexuality
33:29 <Halcyon> \o/ gays!
33:32 <Ampera> no
33:36 <T3sl4> and still Ampera feels illegal
33:37 <Ampera> I'm saying that's why the world's so fucked
33:40 <Ampera> ^^^
33:46 <Halcyon> The world is fucked because of gays?
33:56 <Ampera> existential pain this horrific should warrant the death penalty
33:56 <T3sl4> don't you know homosex causes windmill cancer?
34:03 <coppice_> and big advances in birth control, and much more educated women who have more control over their lives. many many things changed
34:10 <T3sl4> and that's why the hurricane came and blew away the anti-homosex pastor's church?
34:16 <Ampera> gay sex causes chemicals in the water that make chemtrails
34:32 <Halcyon> Hahaha
34:39 <Ampera> educated women
34:42 <Ampera> that's another big issue
34:52 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/ryt7lzq
34:52 <Ampera> educated men is bad enough
35:08 <T3sl4> oh nice, that's an even better irony because it's a Qatar Airways plane
35:26 <T3sl4> Ampera: you're neither educated nor men
35:28 <Ampera> the muslims (or at least persians) had it right
35:34 <Ampera> take all the gays and simply make them women
35:39 <Ampera> all the lesbians and simply make them men
35:41 <Halcyon> Who is educated these days?
35:42 <Ampera> everyone's happy, and problem solved
35:48 <Halcyon> It's all about fucking TikTok and Insta
35:52 <T3sl4> what about the lesbians in a man's body?
36:02 <T3sl4> i know a transwoman who's lesb, go figure
36:15 <Ampera> T3sl4, I don't count, I'm bisexual
36:45 <Ampera> and that goes back to the age old saying, if a yellow apple fucks a lemon, is the yellow apple a lemon
36:58 <Ampera> or is the lemon a yellow apple
37:07 <coppice_> buysexuals keep the sex industry solvent
37:13 <Ampera> nobody cares, they're all fruits, and they should be fucking chopped and eaten
39:07 <Halcyon> Speaking of fruit, I need to buy more apples
39:08 <Halcyon> Jerry likes them
39:12 <Ampera> coppice_, sex trafficking is fucking cool
39:26 <Ampera> imagine just being an object sold for nothing else but to please others
39:53 <coppice_> Ampera: I hope the trafficking is using eco friendly fuel
40:09 <Ampera> coppice_, 50 whore sleigh is eco-friendly and renewable
41:16 <T3sl4> humans could be made into biofuel
41:27 <Halcyon> There's an idea
41:32 <coppice_> or soylent green
41:35 <Ampera> replace beef cows with humans, solve global warming
41:39 <Halcyon> Everyone who has a low social score gets turned into fuel
41:45 <Ampera> if you make them all women you get milk too
42:02 <T3sl4> Halcyon, https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/eak9c4/the_only_thing_australians_are_afraid_of/
42:24 <Halcyon> Heheh Magpies
42:41 <Halcyon> Yeh they get the shits if you come into their space and they don't know you
43:05 <Ampera> do Magpies go good in pies?
43:06 <Halcyon> But if you feed them, they become your best friend
43:24 <Halcyon> Not as nice as chicken pies
43:29 <T3sl4> birb: https://i.imgur.com/k9r4g7Y.gif
43:37 <coppice_> I thought you had to say "good morning Mr Magpie" to make them your friend
43:38 <T3sl4> Ampera -- seasoned with magnets, yes
43:39 <Ampera> how would you know? have you ever had one?
43:54 <Halcyon> No
43:58 <Halcyon> I've had emu though
44:07 <coppice_> emu is good
44:18 <Ampera> are they basically just giant turkeys?
44:26 <Halcyon> I... guess?
44:36 <Ampera> have you not had turkey?
44:42 <coppice_> emus are nothing like a turkey
44:43 <Halcyon> I've had turkey
44:50 <coppice_> they are like a small oistrich
46:04 <T3sl4> ostritch is beef if cows could fly except they still can't
46:13 <Ampera> T3sl4, pigs can though
46:19 <coppice_> its pigs that can fly
46:47 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/jQadsIL.gif
46:50 <coppice_> I know this from seeing some get off a plane
47:18 <Ampera> Halcyon is a really good example.
47:19 <T3sl4> americans i'm sure
47:24 <Halcyon> Mm?
47:29 <Ampera> flying pig
47:39 <Halcyon> *slaps*
47:44 <Ampera> daddy?
47:49 <Halcyon> Ew
48:00 <Ampera> :(
48:16 <Ampera> if white women fuck dogs, then do black women fuck the highest bidder?
49:41 <Ampera> well it seems I've crashed the chat with that one
49:53 <Halcyon> :)
49:56 <Ampera> back to imagining being someone else
50:00 <Halcyon> I'm updating my Unifi controller
50:23 <Ampera> if I had infinite money, actual networking gear would be on my list
50:49 <coppice_> if I had infinite money, I'd always be the highest bidder
51:05 <Halcyon> If I had infinite money, I would fly Ampera out here
51:07 <Ampera> and if I were black and a woman, I'd fuck you
51:25 <Ampera> since I'm neither, I guess I'll just fuck myself
51:58 * Halcyon buys Ampera a latex fist for Christmas
52:14 * Ampera would prefer a dildo
52:28 <Ampera> i'd also prefer a good place to stick it, but I can't have everything
52:34 <T3sl4> phallus or abstract?
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52:42 <Halcyon> Hahaha
52:45 <Ampera> well
52:47 <Ampera> I clicked on that
52:52 <Ampera> now to remove it from my browser history
53:07 <coppice_> what would a dil do?
53:17 <Ampera> it would dil bert.
53:34 <T3sl4> no big dil
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54:47 Kick: Halcyon was kicked by Ampera (Ampera)
54:47 Kick: Ampera was kicked by ChanOP (Halcyon [Halcyon] is a protected channel member)
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55:01 <Halcyon> Sorry
55:03 <Halcyon> I don't know why the hell it copied the whole thing
55:05 <Halcyon> lol
55:06 <T3sl4> hah
57:25 <EEVBlog> "You have been suspended on #EEVBlog for 5 minutes"
58:15 <Halcyon> I'll give you suspend Ampera
58:33 <EEVBlog> it'll be up in a couple of minutes
58:40 * T3sl4 punches instead of kicks Halcyon
58:40 <EEVBlog> handy I put in this manual entry thing into the bot
58:56 <EEVBlog> did it actually end up kicking you?
59:21 <Halcyon> Why is everyone picking on me?
59:28 <Halcyon> No, I didn't get kicked
59:30 <EEVBlog> cause you just flooded the damn channel
59:37 <Halcyon> I said sorry
59:41 <Halcyon> Also, get over it :P
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00:08 <Ampera> blyat
00:11 Mode: (by ChanOP) +o Ampera
00:14 * T3sl4 slaps Ampera harder
00:16 * Halcyon purchases said fisting mitten for Ampera so he can literally go fuck himself
00:25 <Halcyon> :P
00:36 * Ampera purchases Halcyon a macbook, since he's too retarded to be using a PC
00:46 <Halcyon> Ew
00:54 <Ampera> Baby's first computer for you :P
00:59 <Halcyon> Bahahaha
01:13 <Ampera> something awful is happening
01:18 <Ampera> I'm getting the urge to program something
01:26 <Halcyon> Like what?
01:29 <Ampera> and the thing I want to program is memory management code in C
01:34 <Ampera> for a practical text buffer
01:50 * Halcyon blinks at Ampera
02:23 <Ampera> I wrote my text editor (what I have of it) in C++, and I'd much rather it be in C
03:29 <T3sl4> https://gfycat.com/frequentdisastrouskingfisher
03:50 <Halcyon> Awww moo cow
04:04 <Halcyon> So cute
04:12 <T3sl4> Ampera, http://web.eecs.utk.edu/~azh/blog/challengingprojects.html
04:33 <T3sl4> you're on the right track it seems
04:35 <Ampera> I know how to make an efficient data structure to do it
04:59 <Ampera> basically what I'd do is have an array of pointers which I realloc every time I want a new line
05:05 <Ampera> and those pointers point to arrays of chars
05:19 <Ampera> then I can do some minor optimization with various memory stuff
05:48 <Ampera> I could make it really efficient if I wanted to only keep a map of any new text characters and where they go instead of writing a logical buffer
06:05 <Ampera> then just interpreting it back into linear data for a text file
06:50 <T3sl4> i know where you need to vacation, Ampera https://i.redd.it/fag1d3qvlm441.jpg
07:00 <Ampera> oh yeah I saw that
07:01 <Ampera> neat
07:59 <coppice_> what kind of dickhead would go there?
08:05 <Halcyon> Hahaha
09:38 <Ampera> T3sl4, if I had an argument of char** buff passed to a function, how could I write to the char* at the address I'd get from the char**
10:21 <T3sl4> *char = foo;
10:32 <Ampera> so *buff = foo;
10:32 <T3sl4> (foo being a char*)
10:44 <T3sl4> sorry, buff
10:45 <Ampera> right, and that would effectively be a roundabout pass by reference
10:56 <coppice_> *buff = foon;
10:57 <T3sl4> it's a reference passed by reference, yes
12:03 <Ampera> right close enough
12:50 <Ampera> and sizeof(char*) would give me the size of a char* in bytes, correct?
13:19 <coppice_> char *************chinese_whisper
13:51 <T3sl4> Ampera: https://gfycat.com/soggyimperfecthornet-cats
14:07 <T3sl4> coppice_: pointer monkey dishwasher
14:14 <Ampera> awww
16:12 <coppice_> T3sl4: send 3s4d, we're going to advance
16:37 <coppice_> T3sl4: whoops. send 3s4d, we're going to a dance
18:27 <T3sl4> dance in whose orbitals?
19:30 Quit: Halcyon ([email protected]) Ping timeout: 121 seconds
21:01 <coppice_> T3sl4: its a first world war anecdote. Send reinforcements, we're going to advance -> send 3 and 4 pence (three shillings and 4 pence in pre-decimal sterling) we're going to a dance
22:20 <T3sl4> that explains why you left out the p orbitals
23:52 <Ampera> Halcyon lost power
23:54 <Ampera> rip
28:10 <coppice_> does a chinese horse whisperer cause very confused horses?
29:49 <T3sl4> is that whispering in chinese, or is it just regular whispering done in a chinese room?
37:31 <Ampera> oh I love java
37:41 <Ampera> code refuses to run on Java 13 or 11 and demands 8
37:57 <Ampera> and will be insecure to run when Java 8's LTS eats shit
39:00 <coppice_> T3sl4: what is a chinese room? are our rooms chinese, because chinese people use them?
39:44 <T3sl4> or are they chinese because they're made of chinese people? he screams for he does not know
18:09 <T3sl4> Ampera in a nutshell: https://i.imgur.com/tKINooT.jpg
18:29 <Ampera> I like it
18:30 <T3sl4> the shirt i mean
18:34 <Ampera> oh
18:36 <Ampera> I like it
19:49 * T3sl4 slaps Ampera on the Butt
20:06 <Ampera> I wish I had a front butt
21:06 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/0wFRd
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24:23 <Halcyon-ish> Mew
24:28 <Halcyon-ish> What's this about butts?
24:35 <Ampera> front butts
24:39 <Ampera> you wouldn't be interested
24:43 <Halcyon-ish> Oh, ew
25:27 <Ampera> I'd love a semi-kalash
25:42 <Ampera> I'd also love a real one but those are very expensive
26:14 <Ampera> what a shame for Australia where you can't even carry a swiss army knife on you, here you can carry a full auto assault rifle in the open
26:17 * Halcyon-ish gives Ampera a semi
26:18 <Ampera> (in some states)
26:33 <Halcyon-ish> You can (if you have a lawful reason)
26:41 <Ampera> Here a lawful reason is I want to
26:48 <Halcyon-ish> Yeh and that's a shit reason
26:55 <Ampera> It's an excellent reason
26:59 <Ampera> it means nobody can tell you that you can't
27:09 <Halcyon-ish> No it's not. People can't just do whatever the hell they want "just because"
27:16 <Ampera> never said that
27:23 <Ampera> I just said you can carry a gun in public
28:21 <T3sl4> Halcyon-ish, https://imgur.com/gallery/0wFRd
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30:21 <Halcyon_> Stupid Android application
30:25 <Halcyon_> Why can't people program properly
30:45 * T3sl4 stabs Halcyon_
30:49 <Ampera> well you're using android for a start
31:00 <Halcyon_> Ampera, write an IRC client for android that doesn't suck
31:09 <Ampera> paradox
31:13 <Ampera> if it's on android it already sucks
31:22 <Halcyon_> Why? What's the alternative?
31:27 <Halcyon_> Apple IOS is shit
31:37 <Halcyon_> Windows? Hah!
32:05 <Ampera> GNU
32:29 <Halcyon_> AFAIK Linux on phones isn't really mature enough yet
32:37 <Ampera> you cunt I didn't say Linux
32:38 <Ampera> I said GNU
32:46 <Halcyon_> Personally, I have never tried it, but I would imagine a lot of fuckery would be involved getting it working.
32:49 <Ampera> Linux on phones is already in use, you're using it right now
32:52 <DHess_US> It is called remote desktop into a real computer.
32:52 <Halcyon_> Well GNU then
32:54 <Ampera> Android is Linux on phones
33:06 <Halcyon_> DHess_US: I need electricity for that to work :P
33:06 <Ampera> DHess_US, it's called not using a phone
33:14 <Ampera> since the form factor is the root of all the problems it has
33:40 <Ampera> it exist in a stupid paradox where people don't use it for phone calls, but it exists in a form factor intended for use with phone calls
33:54 <Halcyon_> Wha?
34:13 <DHess_US> It exists for people to use for passive media consumption.
34:30 <Ampera> so do tablets, which are arguably the far more useful form factor
34:42 <DHess_US> And anything made by Apple.
35:03 <Halcyon_> Ampera, your phone can become a fully functional desktop PC
35:11 <Ampera> what phone
35:11 <Halcyon_> Plug in a monitor, keyboard and mouse
35:12 <DHess_US> Ha, I tried that. Nope.
35:17 <Halcyon_> Almost any Android phone
35:24 <Halcyon_> (I'm using a USB keyboard right now)
35:29 <Ampera> well my "phone" doesn't have MHL or USB OTG
35:33 <DHess_US> Running Android applications. Yea, no thanks.
35:51 <Ampera> a better question is why does GNU not have a good onscreen keyboard
35:58 <DHess_US> I have a bluetooth keyboard for my phone. It still is not bearable.
36:00 <Ampera> they almost universally suck
37:50 <Halcyon_> I need to order new UPS batteries
38:08 <DHess_US> I've been thinking of getting a small netbook to tether to my phone. But then the problem becomes limited tethering cap.
38:18 <Halcyon_> I have a big UPS which I could use for my desktop, but it needs new batteries
38:39 <DHess_US> Don't order UPS batteries off of Ebay. Most of the sellers sell used batteries as new and by the time you find out, it is too late to leave negative feedback.
38:46 <Halcyon_> What's a limited tethering cap?
39:01 <Halcyon_> Oh I won't. I'll buy genuine APC ones.
39:09 <DHess_US> It's a US thing. Phone plans only allow so much traffic to tethering.
39:20 <Halcyon_> Oh that's super annoying.
39:26 <DHess_US> So you get to pay $10 per GB or something.
39:36 <Halcyon_> Fark
39:40 <Halcyon_> Assholes
40:01 <Ampera> anyways I think I'm going to do a sleepy
40:02 <Ampera> good night
40:07 <Halcyon_> Night Ampera. Love you
40:20 <Ampera> I love you too
40:21 <Ampera> faggot
40:23 <DHess_US> Faster 5G phones just means you can use up your transfer cap in seconds rather than minutes.
40:26 <Halcyon_> Yeh that's bullshit DHess_US, considering how cheap data is
40:41 <DHess_US> Artificial scarcity goes along with rent seeking.
41:05 <DHess_US> Just like politicians and assholes.
41:31 <Halcyon_> I don't know how it works over there, but all 3 carriers here compete against each other for national coverage. It's not really the case where if you are in a certain state/city, you go with one carrier because they are the ones with coverage.
42:00 <Halcyon_> For example, I pay $39/mnth for unlimited calls, SMS and data. The only limit is, after 30 GB it's shaped.
42:02 <DHess_US> We get three carriers. But they all have roughly the same services for the same prices.
43:04 <Halcyon_> I'm actually looking to replace my shitty VDSL2 connection with a LTE service. On business mobile plans, you can even get a proper public WAN IP instead of CG-NAT
43:23 <DHess_US> I looked into that but basically it does not exist here.
43:52 <DHess_US> And to get a routable IP, would have to buy a VPN service also.
44:02 <Halcyon_> Yeh it's fuckery
44:23 <Halcyon_> They are starting to do that on fixed-wire connections now too
44:38 <DHess_US> Not much else to do when you are out of IPv4 addresses.
44:53 <Halcyon_> My ISP by default put you on CG-NAT but you can opt out and it doesn't cost a thing. The only thing I pay for is $10/month extra for a static IP
45:42 <DHess_US> I snarfed internet off of a local hotspot and used a VPN for a couple months and it was better than AT&T's DSL.
45:46 <Halcyon_> Yeh it's true. But I hate how they've designed IPv6. It's such a mind fuck.
46:04 <DHess_US> I had IPv6 for years and then AT&T blocked it.
46:12 <Halcyon_> What? WHY?
46:35 <DHess_US> I ran protocol 41 (native IPv6 over IPv4 tunnel) and AT&T blocked protocol 41 in stages.
46:47 <Halcyon_> For what purpose?
46:57 <DHess_US> They gave various reasons but it came down to they wanted to charge extra for IPv6.
47:05 <Halcyon_> The dirty fuckers
47:26 <DHess_US> "If our customers get IPv6, then they can get free static IPs without paying." "Law enforcement requires us to block it." blahblahlbah
47:31 <Halcyon_> That's like charging extra for a connection that doesn't disconnect every 24 hours
47:37 <Halcyon_> It should be assumed that you get it
48:13 <Halcyon_> I don't get the mentality of some of these companies.
48:24 <DHess_US> I caught AT&T doing that also. I noticed when my IPv6 connection stayed up when IPv4 failed.
48:56 <DHess_US> And then I noticed that my IPv4 VPN connection over UDP stayed up when IPv4 TCP failed.
49:28 <DHess_US> I think AT&T was transparently proxying everything they could but that isn't possible with encrypted UDP.
50:03 <DHess_US> I suspect they proxy and route traffic to central locations for law enforcement purposes.
50:44 <DHess_US> Which explains why my VPN across half the US was several times faster than connecting directly to local IPs.
52:22 <DHess_US> Gah, Hollywood gun battles are so dumb. Let's raid this place where we know the guys will be armed and bring handguns to do it!
55:48 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The latest in audio technology in this stores display window https://t.co/ff2voL1TOu
57:11 <Halcyon_> YAY, power is back on. Be right back.
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03:32 <Halcyon> YAY
06:15 <steve30> hi Halcyon
06:32 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
13:30 <steve30> Halcyon, I'm just trying to figure out why I can't be pinged. Looks like our dodgy ISP-supplied router blocks pings.
13:58 <Halcyon> Quite possibly. Can you login to the router and just add a firewall rule?
14:06 <Halcyon> Or is there the option to allow ICMP?
14:39 <steve30> nope
14:59 <Halcyon> Poo
15:16 <steve30> note the words "dodgy ISP-supplied router"
15:20 <Halcyon> :)
15:24 <Halcyon> Most are
15:32 <Halcyon> Can you replace it with your own device?
16:12 <steve30> hell no. technically its my mother's, so I don't even touch it if I can avoid it
16:25 <Halcyon> Right
36:44 <DogWomble> which router is it? sometimes there's a setting hidden away that specifically blocks incoming ping, depends on the model router though
38:14 <Halcyon> Hey DogWomble
38:21 <DogWomble> hey Halcyon
38:24 <Halcyon> What's doing?
38:46 <DogWomble> not much, you?
38:57 <Halcyon> Just setting up a new VM
38:59 <Halcyon> And housework
39:20 <DogWomble> yay for housework
39:31 <Halcyon> Oh yes. Thrilling stuff
39:47 <DogWomble> while you're at it, can you turn down the sun?
40:07 <Halcyon> It's fine over here. Probably about 25 outside?
40:34 <DogWomble> yeah, but remember i'm in an upper story flat - great in winter, but gets a little toasty in summer
40:49 <Halcyon> Ah yes
51:29 <steve30> DogWomble, Sagemcom F@ST2704N
52:41 <Halcyon> Hey steve30: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGXMpWSJceQ
53:01 <Halcyon> You can watch it on mute, it really doesn't matter
53:16 <DogWomble> aah, not a brand i'm particularly familiar withj
53:44 <DogWomble> i'm just looking at the manual to see if it references how it does ICMP at all
53:44 <steve30> I'm guessing your watching that for the guy
53:52 <Halcyon> Of course
54:15 <Halcyon> I don't really care for muscles, but woof
55:02 <steve30> I wish I had a tasty hunk to play with
55:03 <DogWomble> of coruse, they've made anything mroe thjan the quick start guide al ittle more hidden
57:08 <steve30> there's virtually no configuration options for said router, other than basic port forwarding
57:16 <Halcyon> https://thecomputerperson.wordpress.com/2015/09/25/how-to-enable-wan-ping-on-the-plusnet-sagem-2704n-fst2704n/
57:24 <Halcyon> It looks like it's quite hard or impossible on that modem
57:28 <Halcyon> It involves a lot of fuckery
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24:13 * steve30 hugs Halcyon 
24:55 <Halcyon> Aw
24:58 <Halcyon> You're sweet
25:36 * steve30 is a cuddle addict :)
44:13 <Halcyon> Me too, I love them
44:16 * Halcyon cuddles T3sl4 
44:34 * T3sl4 scritches steve30
44:43 <steve30> *purr*
55:37 <Ampera> I'm a very unhappy person
55:39 <Ampera> my saltines
55:41 <Ampera> they skimped on the salt
03:05 <Halcyon> Oh no Ampera
03:06 <Halcyon> :(
07:16 * Ampera hugs Halcyon 
07:18 <Ampera> it was awful
07:21 <Ampera> they tasted of flour
07:29 * Ampera stuffs another one in his mouth
07:42 <Ampera> they're *chew* awful
08:21 * steve30 has leftover curry
08:38 <Ampera> it's a good thing I am not in your country, steve30, otherwise you wouldn't
09:09 <Halcyon> Have some cheese with it Ampera
09:16 <Ampera> I don't like cheese
09:18 <Ampera> nor do I have any
09:26 <Halcyon> What about on pizza?
09:48 <DogWomble> i love cheese :D
09:55 <steve30> I might ask my Mum if I can take over the VDSL service from her
10:01 <Ampera> I don't mind mozzerella, but you wouldn't really put that on crackers
12:14 <Halcyon> So I've worked out how to completely anonymise my Youtube viewing
12:31 <Ampera> Become multiple people?
12:34 <steve30> cool
12:54 <Halcyon> Unforunately now I just get all the generic click bait garbage in my recommended feed all the time.
13:00 <Halcyon> But still, it works
13:03 <steve30> Do you not want google to know you are looking at tasty hunks?
13:18 <Halcyon> Nope
14:16 <Halcyon> Apparently now it thinks I want to watch Jimmy Fallon and "Cats vs Invisible Maze"
14:48 <Ampera> that's close to what I want to watch
14:55 <Ampera> except I want to watch Jimmy Carr, and 8/10 cats
15:07 <Ampera> preferably with Sean Lock
15:18 <Halcyon> Heh
15:25 <Ampera> no
15:30 <Ampera> it's Ah ah ah AH
15:31 <Ampera> not heh
15:50 <Halcyon> I'm guessing this feed is based on the garbage the average American teenager clicks on
16:25 <Ampera> well I guess I'm not the average american teenager then
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16:32 * Ampera cries in dysphoria
16:43 <Halcyon> You are far from average
16:46 <Halcyon> Except in your pants
16:46 <Halcyon> :P
16:58 <Ampera> why are you making fun of the things that cause me such great pain in life
17:09 <Halcyon> Because you do the same to me?
17:15 <Ampera> when
17:34 <Halcyon> Oh please, all the time.
17:55 <Ampera> Do you even have anything that causes you great pain in life?
18:10 <Halcyon> Well, no
18:19 <Halcyon> Not compared to you
18:32 <Ampera> so if there's nothing that causes you great pain in life, how could I possibly make fun of it?
18:58 <Halcyon> *shrug*
19:23 <Halcyon> https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/true-stories/the-gruesome-secrets-lying-beneath-sydneys-central-station/news-story/98030ec27a67086589997119a8a1055b
19:27 <Halcyon> Oh that's kind of cool
22:16 <Ampera> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAQjLkvYFyA
22:58 <Halcyon> Random
37:36 <DogWomble> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFjH4ZqwOB4
45:35 <steve30> time for a coffee
45:56 <steve30> I might try and go out in an hour or so since its forecast sunshine
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01:56 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: For those who want to know what's happening with the fires in Sydney. There are no fires in Sydney at present, Sydney is a 50km diameter suburban basin (red circle). The fires are all up in the Blue Mountains & other national parks. But Sydney is a basin & collects the smoke https://t.co/5sy8N0nwnv
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