// #eevblog — 2019-12-18
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00:22:31 Join: steve30 ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
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00:23:33 <steve30> Now DD-WRT doesn't have an option to turn the wireless radio on :/
00:36:39 <coppice_> the wireless radio? as opposed to a wiremore radio?
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00:54:19 <steve31> Why does Windows try and connect to whichever wireless network it likes?
00:54:49 <coppice_> because its a spoiled brat, that thinks it can do whatever it likes
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00:55:58 <coppice_> you'd think that Microsoft would consider least cost routing a priority, but no
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01:15:39 <steve30> I got the DD-WRT set up
01:16:33 <steve30> Still can't get it to support IPv6 though
01:26:29 <Ysjoelfir> <-- working on a prototype for a new product. I love that kind of work :)
01:37:59 Join: jerryhopper ([email protected]) to #EEVblog
01:43:00 <jerryhopper> hey all. im jerry from the netherlands. i love the solarroad-videos, they are awesome!
01:43:35 <jerryhopper> i want let you know about the 1 year old 'co2 negative' road with loads of innovations.... including a tiny solar-road!
01:44:35 <steve30> I'm surprised people have spent so much money on solar roads
01:44:45 <jerryhopper> unfortunatly my blog is in dutch, but im very happy to translate if wished for : Checkout the co2 negative road with solar-gadgets : https://foryourinformation.nl/2019/10/20/n211-de-duurzaamste-weg/
01:46:16 <jerryhopper> i stumbled upon this co2 negative road in my quest for 'bamboo roadsigns' - coz i dont really believe in them (with good reasons).
01:47:18 <jerryhopper> Not only solar-roads @steve30 the whole crazyness around eco/enviroment-friendly is getting a bit out of hand.
01:57:59 <Ysjoelfir> Hi jerryhopper :) I'm happy that dutch is quite easily translated to german by google translate, so I will have a nice read at your blog :)
01:58:10 <jerryhopper> i was wondering dave could shine a light on the light-pole solar-panels... they are so friggen tiny!
02:00:54 <jerryhopper> and if im correct, EEV-blog didnt cover the final blow to the solaroad near schiphol this last week (https://www.nhnieuws.nl/nieuws/258262/proef-met-weg-op-zonnepalen-bij-schiphol-mislukt ))
02:02:02 <jerryhopper> But if you think its over now? LOL
02:02:05 <jerryhopper> In a letter to the Provincial Council, the Provincial Executive states that the amount of information from the pilot at Schiphol and the remaining budget will be used for the further development of Solaroad cycle paths.
02:03:14 <jerryhopper> nice detail: earlier in March this year, the provicial council bought itselfs half a million euro's on SolaRoad shares....
02:05:26 <jerryhopper> Anyways, the failing of this road made me wanna write about it - which is how i found eev-blog and its awesome video's.
02:09:43 <Ysjoelfir> Its pretty normal for politicians to never admit that the thing they invested a considerable amount of money in failed miserably :)
02:31:23 <coppice_> steve30: in the big scheme of things people haven't spent much money on solar roads. Spending a few million on a feel good project in down in the noise for a politician
02:32:31 <coppice_> steev30: also, politicians aren't good at the pure/applied divide. They can't usually separate between "engineering doesn't currently allow that" and "physics doesn't allow that"
02:35:01 <Ysjoelfir> but shouldn't both of those cases prohibit the spending of (for me) insane amounts of money, despite being unable to divide between them?
02:35:40 <coppice_> no. you spend money to advance the limits of engineer closer to the limits of physics
02:35:46 <coppice_> engineering
02:37:28 <Ysjoelfir> sure, but shouldn't this been done by the engineering companies themselves? why should a politician spend the tax payers money for things with unknown revenue?
02:40:01 <coppice_> who pays is a political decision, but its not stupid to spend on achievable outcomes
02:56:21 <jerryhopper> well, i still wonder if these pilot projects - which last about a week on a real road - couldnt be tested inhouse.
02:59:23 <coppice_> they shouldn't be tested at all, because none of them to date have even the slightest chance of success. they are a joke
03:11:49 <coppice_> the most interesting projects are the ones with a road construction company behind them. many people might have illusions about being able to get away without super robust construction, but the road construction people can't
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03:16:14 <Ysjoelfir> Reading about those "not robust" projects involving anything automotive related makes me always shake my head. I can't realy understand that it isn't already common knowledge that anything involving transportation has to be super robust...
03:17:00 <Ysjoelfir> heck, even our power analyzer we build here at work needs to be super robust because some customers build those into their electric vehicle prototypes to measure efficiency and whatnot...
03:17:04 <Ysjoelfir> hi Thundersqueak
03:18:23 <ThunderSqueak> hi there
03:22:22 <Ysjoelfir> Uuuh, my IRC client gave your nick a wonderfull hot pink color :D
04:06:30 <ThunderSqueak> cool
04:08:39 <T3sl4> 🎶 she's a thunder girl... in a thunder wo-o-orld... 🎶
04:30:06 <Ysjoelfir> :-D
04:30:37 * Ysjoelfir is going home now.
04:30:59 * Ysjoelfir waves into the channel to say goodbye
04:31:24 Quit: Ysjoelfir ([email protected]) Quit: Farvel og har en hyggelige tid :)
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09:01:26 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/V0Jeb91.jpg
09:39:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @cirquelar: WE WILL SUMMON THE ROVER DEMON NOW. #M2020MOB https://t.co/m8eblCQgV7
09:40:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Going to see #RiseofSkywalker at midnight tonight. Not holding out much hope. If I have the energy at 3am I'll record a single take thoughts video immediately afterward.
09:41:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @Gasol1n: And my @eevblog Multimeter finally arrived. Just in time for my Birthday. I love it already. Now i can whack my probes right…
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12:01:31 <DHess_US> https://i.imgur.com/vv4TPfc.jpg
12:07:23 <coppice_> I wonder how long these videos take to produce https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erAu3fd7_C4
12:09:51 <T3sl4> at least a few minutes
12:11:21 <coppice_> I'm amazed he's still motivated enough to be producing new songs
12:11:54 <T3sl4> still a popular channel
12:12:55 <coppice_> 63k views in its first 2 days. Not enough to make it an income, but enough to bathe in the warm glow of popularity
12:19:24 <T3sl4> i'd say he averages higher than that, but not by too much, and also with a not quite monthly posting schedule
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14:09:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: 1 hr Mailbag video rendering now.
14:13:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @MohitBhoite: If you ever wondered what the inside of a shark fin antenna (on the top of a car) looks like... https://t.co/oVqehtoGEx
14:14:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @drspacejunk: Australia is advertising for a new Space Agency head. https://t.co/0YiqG7kPG8
14:16:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @JodiMcKayMP: The $1.5 billion relocation of the Powerhouse Museum to Parramatta is a colossal indulgence at a time of bushfires, drough…
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16:56:46 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Another bogus copyright claim https://t.co/InREpaZwR5
16:57:47 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It's interesting to note that once your video gets Copyright claimed you CAN'T DISABLE monetisation so that no one gets the money.
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18:41:21 <steve30> hi
18:43:25 <ThunderSqueak> hi steve
18:43:49 <ThunderSqueak> just about to head to bed I think
18:45:57 <steve30> I just got up
18:50:24 <AndrevS> morning
18:55:29 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW EEVblog Video! EEVblog #1272 - Mailbag https://t.co/FNDGvmiRlD
18:58:36 * T3sl4 hugs steve30
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19:24:21 * steve30 meows at T3sl4
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19:28:03 <Ysjoelfir> Heihei everyone
19:28:35 * Ysjoelfir yawns into the channel
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19:33:04 * DogWomble peers in
19:33:34 * Ysjoelfir sees DogWomble and waves to say hallo
19:33:48 <DogWomble> hey Ysjoelfir
19:48:56 <Halcyon> Evening all
19:50:05 <steve30> hi Halcyon
19:50:18 <steve30> Its cold and foggy today
19:51:22 <Halcyon> It's hot and smoky here today
19:52:44 <steve30> I have to go out in this later
19:57:15 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
20:09:03 <Halcyon> *hugs*
20:09:28 <Halcyon> Some nosy neighbour dobbed me into the water board for using my sprinkler during water restrictions.
20:09:39 <Halcyon> Even though I'm on tank water and am exempt.
20:09:48 <Halcyon> Some people are just busy bodies
20:10:51 <steve30> how nice of them
20:11:02 <Halcyon> I know right?
20:11:16 <Halcyon> The lady from Sydney Water was very nice and apologetic though.
20:11:43 <Halcyon> (I mean, she was just doing her job). I hope she told whoever it was not to call again.
20:26:51 * steve30 coffees
20:26:58 <Halcyon> I should start thinking about dinner
20:27:22 <steve30> yum
20:27:38 <steve30> I'm pondering having vegetable stir fry tonight
20:28:22 <Halcyon> I'm thinking chilli beef with rice
20:28:44 <Halcyon> Something basic, can't be arsed with anything more complicated
20:28:46 <steve30> mmm, save some for me please :p
20:30:00 <Halcyon> I honestly which I could dehydrate my foods and send it overseas to you and Ampera
20:30:04 <Halcyon> Like space food
20:30:11 <Halcyon> That you can rehydrate
20:30:44 <steve30> Sounds a bit inefficient tbh, considering that I can make stuff from scratch
20:31:50 <Halcyon> Yes but it's about swapping recipes and cooking
20:32:01 <Halcyon> It's like having remote dinner party
20:32:10 <steve30> ah
20:34:11 <Halcyon> :)
20:37:08 <steve30> I have to go out in a few hours. But I'd rather hide in a duvet :)
20:37:16 <Halcyon> Of course you do :P
20:40:29 <steve30> duvets ftw :)
20:40:57 <Halcyon> You would live in bed if you could
20:41:15 <Halcyon> Like the old people from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory
20:42:07 * steve30 is watching Mailbag
20:42:20 <Halcyon> Oh he did a new one?
20:42:39 <AndrevS> I just finished watching it
20:42:53 <Halcyon> Was it good? (No spoilers)
20:43:38 <steve30> yup
20:43:40 <AndrevS> The last one of the year, I liked it.
20:48:44 * steve30 curls up next to Halcyon
20:56:02 <Halcyon> Naww :)
20:59:12 <Halcyon> Tomorrow and Saturday are going to be interesting days here. 45 and 46 degrees respectively.
21:17:22 <Ysjoelfir> I heard/read remote dinner party? I like that absolutely brilliant idea :D
21:17:43 * steve30 fires up the FoIP machine
21:18:22 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: Yes, but I would like to find a way to preserve fresh food for extended periods (up to a week) for shipping overseas.
21:18:33 <Ysjoelfir> Food over IP? :D
21:18:52 <Halcyon> Well... the banter would be over IP, the food would be over post/courier.
21:19:13 <Ysjoelfir> That would be cool. I love cooking, so that would be a nice way to exchange local cuisine recipes :)
21:19:29 <Halcyon> Likewise
21:19:29 <steve30> On the subject of food, we're taking grandma to the fish and chip restaurant tomorrrow
21:19:53 <Halcyon> There is such a thing as a Fish and Chip RESTAURANT ?
21:20:00 <steve30> yes
21:20:03 <Ysjoelfir> oO
21:20:04 <Halcyon> Like dine-in ?
21:20:30 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: I love cooking too. We should swap recipes
21:20:34 <steve30> http://www.sevenseaswickersley.co.uk/
21:21:02 <Halcyon> Holy crap
21:21:06 <Halcyon> There you go
21:22:06 <Halcyon> Spam fritter?! Seriously?!
21:22:47 <Ysjoelfir> Here in Frankfurt a new store selling (more or less) only french fries opened. I know that franchise from my home town, it's pretty nice, too :)
21:24:24 <Ysjoelfir> https://www.frittenwerk.com/frankfurt.php (there are some pictures for you non german speaking folks :) )
21:27:30 <Halcyon> Looks naughty :)
21:27:47 <Halcyon> I guess the salads are good, but, pfft, you don't go out for salad
21:29:12 <Halcyon> I have been here before: http://www.thebavarians.com/venue/the-rocks-sydney/
21:29:16 <Halcyon> It is quite delicious
21:29:48 <Halcyon> I love a good pork knuckle
21:30:14 <Ysjoelfir> a bavarian Brauhaus in Sydney, lol :D Lets see if it serves authentic bavarian food :D
21:30:20 <Halcyon> *shrug*
21:30:23 <Halcyon> There are a few though
21:32:17 <Halcyon> I think steve30 would be keen on the "Sausage tasting platter" ;-)
21:32:45 <Ysjoelfir> There are indeed some authentic dishes, nice :) But I miss one I personally like very much. It is called "Leberkäse". Basically very fine ground meat (like a creamy sausage filling) with herbs and sometimes veggies. you bake that and get what is basically a loaf of sausage
21:32:59 <Ysjoelfir> it is usually served with pretzels and mayonnaise
21:33:10 <Halcyon> Do you have a recipe?
21:33:13 <Halcyon> I'd love to try that
21:34:42 <Halcyon> In turn, I will send you one of mine. How are you with desserts?
21:35:21 <Ysjoelfir> sounds like a plan :D
21:39:30 <Halcyon> https://www.german-butchery.com.au/products/leberkase#
21:39:38 <Halcyon> Looks like that place in Sydney sells it as a deli item
21:40:36 <Halcyon> Not so sure on the "pizza" version though
21:42:32 <Ysjoelfir> looks legit :) the pizza version is actually a thing here :) but usually with much smaller pieces of... "stuffing"
21:42:52 <Ysjoelfir> my version: (hope it all transmits, don't know how irc handles long texts nowadays):
21:42:58 <Halcyon> It looks like something Aussies made, up, but I'll take your word
21:43:04 <Ysjoelfir> Homemade Leberkäse: you take 500 grams each of cold pork shoulder and pork belly (without bone and skin), grind that in a meat grinder, together with a big onion and around 20 grams of coarse salt. put that in a mixing bowl and mix, using an electric mixer, until very smooth. Keep adding crushed ice while mixing so that it doesn't overheat! season with pepper, thyme, ground nutmeg and garlic. add finely chopped veggies, cheese,
21:43:04 <Ysjoelfir> other meats as you like. put into a oven proof bowl (should be a bit higher, like for baking a bread) and bake at 160°C hot air for 75 to 90 minutes until dark brown on the top
21:43:17 <Halcyon> Perfect :)
21:43:37 <Halcyon> I need to get Dave to include a recipes section
21:43:49 <Ysjoelfir> i would totally support that :)
21:43:59 <Halcyon> But I know he is mindful of becoming too "non-EE related"
21:44:21 <Halcyon> I might flick him a message tomorrow, see what he thinks, it's a bit late now.
21:44:41 <Ysjoelfir> should be around midnight in aussieland right now, right?
21:45:49 <Halcyon> eevblog time
21:45:50 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 21:45 Sydney time.
21:46:01 <Ysjoelfir> ah, nearly ;)
21:46:18 <Halcyon> Kids will be in bed, so this will be his personal time
21:46:27 <Halcyon> I generally don't text him unless something burns down
21:46:51 <steve30> You should drag Dave into IRC
21:46:55 <Halcyon> If I email him, he can't help himself but check his phone and reply
21:47:07 <Ysjoelfir> xD those workaholics...
21:47:23 <Halcyon> Yeh, not a bad idea. I'm not sure if he has holiday plans this year, he usually goes away around this time.
21:47:34 <Halcyon> Maybe next year?
21:47:41 <Halcyon> We need to find a suitable date
21:48:03 <Halcyon> Anniversary of IRC perhaps? I don't know?
21:55:01 <Ysjoelfir> Tell him to come over. There will be cake. Works most of the time.
21:55:22 <Halcyon> Pfft, Dave doesn't eat cake. He doesn't even drink coffee.
21:55:33 <Halcyon> Maybe a lean chicken breast?
21:55:36 <steve30> :o
21:55:38 <Ysjoelfir> :O
21:55:43 <steve30> Oh well, more cake for me :p
21:55:44 <Halcyon> Yes, I know, I know
21:55:50 <Halcyon> Doesn't drink alcohol either
21:55:56 <Halcyon> Strange fellow
21:56:02 <Ysjoelfir> Sounds way to healthy for my taste
21:56:17 <steve30> I can approve of not having alcohol, but no cake and no coffee?
21:56:18 * Halcyon sips a Shiraz Cabernet
21:58:16 * Ysjoelfir sips a Spezi and nibbles on a Käselaugenstange
21:59:09 <Halcyon> Cheese on bread?
21:59:32 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: 2 hours away... And the old cinema I saw Episode IV in back in 1977. Darth Vader scared the crap out me. https://t.co/fPvTcVjzns
22:00:50 <Ysjoelfir> Basically. But pretty soft bread that was dipped into a brine solution before baking. :)
22:01:03 <Halcyon> Interesting
22:03:09 <Ysjoelfir> Yeah, i like it. The brining makes the bread kind of... chewy without it being hard. it is more a bit like a well tasting rubber.And it's cheap. one of those cost you around 50 cents.
22:03:34 <Halcyon> You Germans do food so well
22:05:55 <Ysjoelfir> Lets say we just love eating xD
22:08:11 <Halcyon> I think we have a lot in common
22:08:58 <Ysjoelfir> It seems like it :)
22:10:14 <steve30> I think I'll have another coffee
22:10:46 <Halcyon> I just poured another glass of wine
22:10:49 <Halcyon> I mean wein
22:10:50 <Halcyon> :P
22:13:55 <Ysjoelfir> Hehe :P
22:19:20 <Halcyon> Ampera, you around?
22:28:30 * steve30 is cold
22:29:24 * Ysjoelfir puts a heatgun near steve30
22:29:33 <steve30> :)
22:29:40 <Ysjoelfir> Lunch break :) see you later *waves*
22:30:09 <Halcyon> Cya mate
23:04:37 * Ysjoelfir returned from lunch and would love to take a nap now
23:11:44 <steve30> I should head out soon
23:16:10 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
23:24:19 <K> hello
23:25:13 <Ysjoelfir> Hi K
23:34:07 Quit: AndrevS ([email protected]) Quit: umount /dev/irc
23:43:16 <Ysjoelfir> I want to go home... I'm soooo bored @ work right now x.x
23:44:31 <K> break somethig
23:46:33 <Ysjoelfir> That wouldn't be helpful as I would be the one to fix it than :D
23:49:13 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I do believe the screen is big enough. T-10min to #RiseofSkywalker https://t.co/F3g3y4P7dx
23:58:15 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Nerds killing time before #StarWarsRiseofSkywalker https://t.co/jqkgJ0iuNG
23:59:06 * Ysjoelfir leaves work now. Bored to death :-P Cya!
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