// #eevblog — 2019-12-17
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00:25:31 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @pomeranian99: Here’s the story of @BullshitQuantum and the scientists who say “bullshit” to the great majority of stories touting the p…
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02:47:01 Quit: steve30000 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
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03:40:19 <DHess_US> https://img.pr0gramm.com/2019/12/16/dd7b10fb69cf755d.png
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03:56:14 <Ampera> DHess_US, that's about right
03:56:49 <Ampera> except it's people just not being left of center anymore, (or even left of center-left), and not feeling like torching any republican they come across.
04:17:24 <T3sl4> wow, DHess_US is a cuck?
04:18:54 <DHess_US> The situation reminds me of Hillary vilifying rural voters, err, I mean bitter clingers.
04:21:33 <K> i do not get any of this
04:24:07 <T3sl4> https://i.imgur.com/65X9euo.jpg
04:24:53 <K> yes.
04:25:06 <K> about the same
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05:19:15 <DHess_US> Your cat meme must be this good or better to get a laugh, https://imgur.com/gallery/JeV4zEP
05:32:50 <AndrevS> Meh
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05:57:27 <Ampera> DHess_US, that's a pretty pointless and low barrier to entry.
05:58:03 <Ampera> The general rule is if it has impact, then the creator should have their skull impacted into solid concrete.
06:30:40 <Halcyon> Morning Ampera
06:30:47 <Ampera> hullo Halcyon
06:30:48 <Ampera> how do
06:30:52 <Halcyon> Sleepy
06:30:54 <Halcyon> You?
06:30:57 <Ampera> Sleepy
06:31:02 <Halcyon> Hooray
06:31:09 <Ampera> I think I may take out my scooter later and try to do some tricks on it
06:31:16 <Halcyon> Heh you have a scooter?
06:31:31 <Ampera> yeah, I think it might just be a little kid's scooter
06:31:36 <Ampera> still, a scooter is a scooter
06:31:36 <Halcyon> *shrug*
06:31:40 <Halcyon> If it's fun
06:31:46 <Ampera> I'd rather a skateboard, but I don't have one of those
06:31:54 <Ampera> I also need to do some schoolwork, so I need to do that first
06:31:56 <Halcyon> You don't seen many of those these days
06:32:11 <Ampera> skateboards?
06:32:24 <Halcyon> Yup
06:32:33 <Halcyon> Same with rollerblades
06:32:52 <Ampera> I went rollerblading maybe 8-10 years ago
06:33:55 * Halcyon sneezes on Ampera
06:34:00 * Halcyon offers him a towel
06:34:14 * Ampera coughs at Halcyon in .308 Winchester
06:34:19 <Halcyon> Heh
06:36:05 <Ampera> I think I may try to do an hour of exercise of some sort each day
06:36:15 <Halcyon> I'm thinking about either G Suite or Backblaze for offsite backups
06:36:15 <Ampera> doesn't matter what, just go outside and do something for an hour
06:36:28 <Halcyon> For $6/month it's cheaper than buying media/drives
06:36:39 <Halcyon> I think you may be right Ampera
06:36:55 <Ampera> I'm always right
06:37:05 <Halcyon> Yeh because you're American :P
06:37:43 <Halcyon> Anyway, I better go *moan*
06:37:49 <Ampera> have fun inside
06:37:52 <Halcyon> 2 more days until the weekend
06:37:59 <Halcyon> Well, 3 if you count today
06:38:27 <Halcyon> Have fun outside *hugs*
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10:39:24 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: NEW Video on EEVblog2! Top Gun: Maverick (2020) Trailer 2 Reaction https://t.co/F4tOtR8kqW
12:07:46 <Ampera> lol
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15:10:06 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: It didn't take the bureaucrats long to bring this train wreck engineering license registration to NSW, they are now taking submissions. https://t.co/MRTchkPRtE Discuss: https://t.co/iWc62RYk3g
17:54:44 <steve30> Halcyon, I had to reboot my asterisk
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18:42:51 <Ysjoelfir> Good Morning everyone
18:57:48 <steve30> hi
19:10:23 <Ysjoelfir> Hi steve :)
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19:33:31 <Halcyon> Evening all, Hey Syeve
19:33:32 <Halcyon> Steve
19:34:10 <steve30> hi
19:34:19 <steve30> Halcyon, I went swimming yesterday
19:34:48 <steve30> I think you'd have been impressed with the eye candy :p
19:36:02 <Halcyon> I'm sure I would ;-)
19:51:55 <steve30> There was a hot twink in the pool :p. Also the lifeguard was cute. And i sat opposite a cute guy in the coffee shop after :p.
19:58:48 * Halcyon suspects steve30 was the hot twink all along
19:58:51 <Halcyon> :P
19:59:02 <Halcyon> Sounds like you had a good day
19:59:13 <steve30> I had competition
20:03:33 <Halcyon> I need to update my NAS from FreeNAS 11.1 to 11.2
20:03:36 <Halcyon> But ima scared
20:05:06 <Ysjoelfir> Swimming? That sounds way to healthy to be true!
20:05:53 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: He only goes to perv ;-)
20:07:23 <Ysjoelfir> Aaah, ok :P Thats acceptable xD
20:10:08 <Halcyon> Hah
20:10:16 <Halcyon> Where are you from Ysjoelfir ?
20:10:21 <steve30> It sucks when you have a load of hot guys, and none come over for a kiss.
20:10:30 <Halcyon> Heh
20:11:34 <Ysjoelfir> Good old Naziland, Halcyon :-P At least that seems to be what the whole world thinks of us germans...
20:12:12 <Halcyon> There are two things that I think of when I think of Germany: Firstly, fantastic food.
20:12:24 <Halcyon> Secondly, we wouldn't have Hogan's Heroes without Hitler :P
20:12:43 <Ysjoelfir> Hahaha :D Nice ne
20:12:45 <Ysjoelfir> *one
20:12:51 <Halcyon> I absolutely love that show
20:13:04 * Ysjoelfir eats his fantastic breakfast food
20:13:24 <Halcyon> Hated it growing up (probably because I didn't understand the references), but it's bloody hilarious now I'm all grown up :P
20:13:36 <steve30> I'm just wondering if I can load some third part firmware on my Buffalo WBR2 G54.
20:13:43 <steve30> But I'm sleepy. I need coffee first.
20:13:59 <Halcyon> Wienerschinitzel and pumpernickel?
20:14:40 <Halcyon> Are you one of these strange people Steve who has caffeine before bed?
20:15:11 <Ysjoelfir> No. That Schnitzel would be more like Lunch. Actually, let me just look up what the canteen has to offer today. For breakfast I have indeed Pumpernickel with some nice cheese :D
20:15:12 <steve30> yes
20:15:26 <Halcyon> I love rye and dark breads
20:15:33 * Halcyon is Finnish
20:15:35 <steve30> I've only been up 3 hours though so its early :)
20:15:37 <Halcyon> So I grew up on that
20:15:43 <Halcyon> Well, Australian-Finnish
20:17:07 <Ysjoelfir> There will be either Bellpepper filled with rice and ground beef or lasagna. I guess I go with lasagna today.
20:17:24 <Halcyon> Amazing
20:17:34 <Ysjoelfir> I love scandinavia :D Never been to finland, but its high on my "must visit" list
20:17:35 <Halcyon> Is this a canteen at your workplace?
20:17:38 <Ysjoelfir> yes
20:17:48 <Halcyon> We never get interesting things like that
20:19:19 <Ysjoelfir> No? where do you work?
20:25:27 <Halcyon> I basically just stalk Ampera and steve30 :P
20:27:49 * steve30 hugs Halcyon
20:28:41 <Ysjoelfir> It seems more like steve stalks you :D
20:30:00 <Halcyon> I guess it's a bit of both :P
20:30:09 <Halcyon> He just happens to have more interesting stories than I do
20:30:38 <Halcyon> And what do you do for work in Germany? Something electronics/nerd related?
20:30:53 <Ysjoelfir> Is that so? I'll definitely be staying around more often now to catch some of those^^
20:31:25 <steve30> I think he just likes me to tell him about the guys I see at the pool
20:31:31 <Halcyon> I do
20:31:33 <Ysjoelfir> I work for one of the world leaders in Precision Power Analyzers as an engineer
20:31:35 <Halcyon> I don't go to the pool
20:31:47 <Halcyon> Oh nice :) So you're clever?
20:34:44 <Halcyon> Well welcome to the channel. The activity is a little up and down due to the various timezones, but there is usually someone here. Also T3sl4 is normally lurking at all hours.
20:39:21 <Ysjoelfir> I don't know if I'm clever :D At least I don't have a degree (yet, working on it), which makes me basically the "officially most uneducated person at the engineering department" :D
20:57:04 <Halcyon> Meh, a bit of paper means nothing
21:05:09 <steve30> i feel better now i've had a coffee
21:16:07 <Ysjoelfir> Coffee... Hmm... Sounds like a plan.
21:16:28 * Ysjoelfir walks away, the coffee mug in his hands
21:23:42 <Halcyon> I'm just making dinner
21:23:52 * Halcyon sips his wine
21:25:10 <Ysjoelfir> aaah, those time zones... :) You are having dinner, here its soon time for lunch.
21:25:44 * Ysjoelfir sips his.... mug with hot milk that has traces of coffee in it
21:26:36 <Halcyon> Fun fact Ysjoelfir, if you type 'eevblog time' it will show you the time in Dave's timezone (which also happens to be mine)
21:26:40 <Halcyon> eevblog time
21:26:40 <EEVBlog> Ah shoot, Doc! We've ended up at 21:26 Sydney time.
21:27:31 <Ysjoelfir> nice :D It's 11:27 over here.
21:27:49 <Halcyon> I had a 'meh' day so I'm glad it's over :P
21:27:59 <Halcyon> Ampera wrote the bot, it does other things with I forget
21:28:07 <Halcyon> eevblog tweet
21:28:16 <Halcyon> eevblog help
21:28:26 <Halcyon> Ahh
21:28:29 <Halcyon> eevblog status
21:28:29 <EEVBlog> EEVBlog's Latest Tweet: It didn't take the bureaucrats long to bring this train wreck engineering license registration to NSW, they are now taking submissions. https://t.co/MRTchkPRtE Discuss: https://t.co/iWc62RYk3g
21:28:43 <Halcyon> Repeats the last Tweet Dave made, but they also pop up here in real time
21:29:52 <Ysjoelfir> nice feature :) I remember the old times when IRC was a big thing. I used to love those bots doing all sort of weird and wonderfull stuff
21:30:04 <Halcyon> Yep :)
21:30:13 <Halcyon> I used to download MP3's from IRC before Torrenting was a thing
21:30:43 <DogWomble> I beleive that is still a thing Halcyon
21:30:50 <Halcyon> I'm sure it is
21:30:56 <Halcyon> It's probably no where near as popular now
21:31:16 <Ysjoelfir> You mean the good old times when copying stuff was kind of legal? aaah, those were the times... :)
21:31:27 <Halcyon> Well it still is (kind of) in AU
21:31:40 <Halcyon> It's not illegal to download, only illegal to share, distribute, upload infringing copies
21:32:07 <Halcyon> Courts have ruled that downloading isn't consider "making" or "creating" an infringing copy.
21:32:48 <Halcyon> They have also ruled that Copyright Infringement is not akin to larceny. It's a civil matter.
21:38:45 <Ysjoelfir> Interesting.... Here in germany we had even TV commercials for quite some time telling us that you can go to jail for up to 5 (?) years for using copied software. Basically the same as rape or robbery.
21:46:07 <DogWomble> yeah we also changed our laws a few years ago (i'm thinking it was about 15 years?) - it used to be illegal to make copies of media you owned for your own use (eg. to copy a cd to tape), it is now legal to do so i beleive, though if i remember rightly it must be to a different format
21:56:45 * Ampera throws a lemon at Halcyon
21:57:37 <Halcyon> Hey Amperas
21:57:40 <Halcyon> -s
21:57:47 * Halcyon throws a grapefruit back
21:57:55 <Ampera> I've not studied for most of my school final crap
21:57:58 <Ampera> but I don't give a shit
21:58:04 <Halcyon> Meh
21:58:06 <Halcyon> You'll be fine
21:58:24 <Ampera> pff
21:58:54 <Ampera> well I will because it doesn't really matter
21:59:05 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: http://www.musicrights.com.au/fact-sheets/formatshifting/
22:00:00 <Halcyon> Probably more or less in line with what you guys have?
22:00:37 <Ampera> In the US there are laws people give a shit about and there are laws people don't.
22:00:48 <Ampera> Most people don't give a shit about piracy, because there's fuck all you can do to stop it
22:01:05 <Halcyon> Ampera: I totally agree
22:01:05 <Ampera> They've been trying since the 1980's, and they've gotten about as far today as they have then.
22:01:24 <Ampera> So while it is illegal to pirate shit here, the vast majority of people do it or have done it, and nobody cares
22:01:32 <Halcyon> Yup
22:01:48 <Ampera> because the amount of time and energy it would take to bring one single person to justice would far exceed the costs any company would ever see back.
22:02:01 <Halcyon> Well the whole Dallas Buyers Club proved that
22:02:18 <Halcyon> They did not prosecute a single person successfully here for merely downloading it
22:02:24 <Ampera> Particularly since most of the people who do it are kids, because kids can't afford to buy most software anyways.
22:02:28 <Halcyon> Even though they (and ISPs) sent mean letters
22:02:41 <Halcyon> I disagree most of them are kids
22:02:49 <Halcyon> Almost every adult I know does it
22:02:50 <Ampera> Good chunk of them are.
22:03:07 <Ampera> Most of the adults you know aren't in the US.
22:03:12 <Halcyon> Indeed
22:03:22 <Halcyon> There are literally no penalties here for downloading
22:03:33 <Halcyon> And the Police don't care. It's not a criminal matter.
22:03:49 <Ampera> The ISP will get mad if you happen to download a torrent they are monitoring
22:04:06 <Halcyon> Some will, only because they "have to be seeing to do something"
22:04:07 <Ampera> but that's fixed easily by simply using a VPN so that you're no longer in their pool of monitored IPs and they have no clue who you are.
22:04:33 <Halcyon> But legally, there is nothing the ISPs can do, they can't even really cut off your service
22:04:48 <Ampera> well no because to cut something off it needs to exist in the first place.
22:05:09 <Ampera> EEVBlog, how's that NBN doing fer ya
22:05:09 <EEVBlog> I think the NBN might be able to hold it together long enough for a whole YouTube video!
22:05:15 <Halcyon> Heh
22:05:39 <Halcyon> Funny, there was an article in the news saying how people are ditching the NBN for 5G
22:05:47 <Halcyon> Gee, didn't see that comign
22:06:07 <Ampera> Probably not, but there might be some parts of the US that only have 3G still
22:06:21 <Ampera> just because there's so many damn cell towers that they must have missed /some/
22:06:38 <Halcyon> Heh
22:06:59 <Ampera> funny, I had a dream where I smashed my phone against the ground and a friend split it in half
22:07:10 <Ampera> and my only disappointment was that I might have lost some photos
22:07:12 <Halcyon> You don't even use your phone
22:07:32 <Ampera> well I also don't have any service on my phone
22:07:42 <Ampera> since my dad can't be fucked to pay the phone bill for my whole 40 minutes a month
22:08:19 <Ampera> in other news my car's battery died
22:08:28 <Ampera> not that it's surprising or anything, but I need to jump it at some point
22:09:02 * Ampera connects jumper cables directly to Halcyon's nips
22:10:41 <Halcyon> Heh
22:10:47 * Halcyon hands Ampera a battery charger
22:11:11 <Ampera> battery charger (which I already have) would require me to take the battery out of the car
22:11:18 <Halcyon> Why?
22:11:35 <Ampera> because we don't have outlets in the carport, but more importantly it would probably get stolen
22:11:50 <Halcyon> You can't run an extension lead out there?
22:12:03 <Ampera> "but more importantly it would probably get stolen"
22:12:22 <Halcyon> Is that a common thing? People going around stealing chargers?
22:12:27 <Ampera> chargers?
22:12:37 <Ampera> people steal anything that isn't bolted down and is easy enough to take and carry.
22:12:37 <Halcyon> Or batteries?
22:12:44 <Halcyon> Seriously?
22:12:50 <Halcyon> People are fucked
22:12:56 <Ampera> heck, someone stole an entire electric stove we had sitting outside
22:13:20 <Halcyon> :(
22:13:31 <Ampera> I also had a bike sitting out in the yard not chained up that someone went and nicked
22:13:47 <Halcyon> You need to wire it up so they get a shock :P
22:14:00 <Halcyon> Maybe loop a coil of thin wire around it or something
22:14:04 <Ampera> illegal
22:14:05 <Ampera> liability
22:14:06 <steve30> I'm going to try upgrading router firmware.
22:14:09 <steve30> bbl... hopefully
22:14:14 <Halcyon> Wait, what?
22:14:18 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
22:14:27 <coppice_> Ampera: America doesn't help itself with these theft issues. Lots of homes are mounted on wheels to make theft easy.
22:14:30 <Ampera> if someone injures or kills themselves on your property, even when trespassing, it's I believe a civil offense
22:14:31 <Halcyon> So someone breaks the law, but trying to steal something, yet YOU are liable for their injury?
22:14:32 <Ampera> they can sue you
22:14:34 <Halcyon> What the fuck?
22:14:38 <Halcyon> WHAT!?
22:14:47 <Ampera> Even if they break into your home and you shoot them.
22:14:51 <Ampera> Laws change state by state
22:14:52 <Halcyon> ROFL
22:15:07 <Ampera> it used to be in connecticut, if someone broke in, you either shoot them to death, or they can sue you.
22:15:08 <coppice_> Halcyon: that's true in most countries based on English common law
22:15:20 <Halcyon> We have a running joke in the cops, when a shitbag gets injured or killed doing something wrong, it's a "noise complaint"
22:15:37 <Ampera> Places like Texas are much nicer, where people understand the mating call of, hippity hoppity, y'all better fucking DANCE off my property.
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22:16:07 <Halcyon> We have that happen every so often here. I can't think of one example where a property owner was found liable or guilty of anything
22:16:09 <Ampera> There have been instances of children breaking into fenced, gated yards and drowning in pools, where the owner got their pants sued off them by the family.
22:16:21 <Ysjoelfir> We have the same in germany - you injure someone while trying to safe your life or your property from them - you can get sued.
22:16:23 <Halcyon> As long as the force was "reasonable", it's pretty much fair game
22:16:47 <Ampera> part of the reason why I might want to move to Texas.
22:17:00 <Halcyon> The world is nuts
22:17:02 <Ampera> yay libertarianism
22:17:03 <Halcyon> I can't believe that
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22:18:14 <coppice_> Halcyon: there are stupid things about people entereing your property that come from common law. Like if you leave your driveway alone after it snows you are legally pretty safe. If you clear the snow, but someone slips on a little residue ice you can get into trouble
22:18:32 <Ysjoelfir> this thing of "reasonable force" you mention, halcyon... you see, even if you use a... dont know what its called in english, a "scaring gun" which can't actually shoot (except pepper or tear gas) to scare away someone that is coming at you with a knife...
22:18:40 <Ysjoelfir> do that and he can sue you because of illegal use of weapons
22:19:03 <Halcyon> The good thing about common law, it rarely applies here
22:19:41 <coppice_> reasonable force is that which kills, and doesn't leave anyone around to sue
22:20:06 <Halcyon> What's reasonable here is obviously case by case, but if you shoot and kill an intruder who tries to invade your home with a knife, you will probably be found not guilty.
22:20:15 <Halcyon> Provided your firearms were legal etc...
22:20:46 <Halcyon> Police have the power to shoot someone who threatens them with a knife, why not a civilian?
22:21:37 <coppice_> Halcyon: isn't it illegal for most people to have a gun to do that?
22:21:49 <Ysjoelfir> hey, we can't even have any legal firearms in our homes anymore :D except if you are a collector or a hunter. heck, even if you are in a shooting club you are forced to keep the guns at the shooting range.
22:22:06 <Ampera> gotta go in a bit
22:22:06 <Halcyon> You're allowed to own a gun, provided it is registered, complies with legislation and you are a fit and proper person to own one.
22:22:12 <Ampera> I might be on IRC in about 40-50 minutes Halcyon
22:22:15 <Ampera> if you're still around
22:22:18 <Halcyon> I'll be in bed
22:22:27 <Ysjoelfir> aaand our police officers get sometimes sued for using force agains someone using force against the officers.
22:22:28 <coppice_> Halcyon: I thought .au banned most gun ownership in the 90s
22:22:46 <Ampera> Halcyon, hippity hoppity, I have a full auto transferrable that'll fling you off my property.
22:23:08 <Ysjoelfir> (meaning: you attack an police officer with a knife anf he uses pepper spray - you can sue him.... welcome to germany :D)
22:23:16 <Halcyon> I don't know about "most". It's just highly controlled
22:23:41 <Halcyon> If you have a legitimate reason to own one (sport, recreation, employment), then you generally can.
22:24:29 <Halcyon> If you're convicted of certain offences, you don't store it properly or you're otherwise found to be unfit, then no, your licence will be denied.
22:25:09 <Halcyon> Ysjoelfir: No one can personally sue a Police officer here. They can sue the organisation, but not an individual.
22:25:30 <coppice_> Halcyon: If you name is something like Sandy Hook do you think you'd get a licence.
22:25:40 <Halcyon> Mmmmm :P
22:25:55 <Halcyon> I mean, I don't know his criminal or psychological history
22:28:12 <Halcyon> I find international law interesting and how it compares
22:28:16 <Ysjoelfir> Yeah, we have some fucked up laws here in germany... I once wanted to start a carreer in laws, but after learning about such things I decided to get into engineering instead. that at least has some common sense to it ;)
22:28:31 <Halcyon> Absolutely agree
22:29:02 <Halcyon> I'd like to think the actual word of the law is actually pretty good here. But sometimes, the courts interpretation has little to be desired.
22:29:22 <Halcyon> Especially since the burden of proof for the defence is sooooo much lower than that of the prosecution.
22:30:14 <Halcyon> They have been slowly getting better though, especially since they booted most of the biased and I'd even go as far as saying, corrupt magistrates.
22:30:19 <Ysjoelfir> that is a whole other story - what is written in the law and what is decided by the judge are two completely different things.... :)
22:30:25 * Ysjoelfir starts the lunch break now and waves into the channel
22:30:34 <Halcyon> Enjoy your lasagne
22:30:39 <Ysjoelfir> thanks :)
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22:36:20 <K> hello
22:36:36 <Halcyon> Evening K
22:38:14 <coppice_> These labour party people calling voters stupid don't seem to have learned anything from last Thursday's election
22:46:30 <Halcyon> Voters *aren't* stupid?
22:47:08 <coppice_> well they are, but calling them stupid really just means you are even dumber than they are
22:47:23 <Halcyon> This is true
22:47:33 <Halcyon> Anyway, bed time for me. Night all.
22:51:15 <Ampera> aw
22:51:20 <Ampera> and I just missed him by four minutes
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23:18:50 <Guest|29662> hi
23:19:17 <Guest|29662> i want to do a digital pH meter
23:19:26 <Guest|29662> using pH probe
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23:26:22 <K> yes.
23:26:28 <K> do it.
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