// #eevblog — 2019-12-10
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00:40:11 <T3sl4> https://i.redd.it/fzn78mcj5g341.jpg
00:48:37 <K> found the american!
01:00:10 <T3sl4> Halcyon: https://i.redd.it/0ugaqgf7xi341.jpg
01:42:07 <rust_collector> I had a question from a guy about getting rid of nvidia drivers that he did not think he had installed, yesterday. So, what happened? did they put it in there by default or something?
01:43:27 <steve30> I need to go to the post office
01:51:18 <rust_collector> at least you still have a post office
02:28:25 <steve30> I didn't bother with the post office in the end. There was an enormous queue
02:29:08 <rust_collector> that sounds like a post office before christmas, and after the dark week
02:30:43 <rust_collector> I think we should move christmas, so it wouldn't be so close to black friday
02:31:35 <steve30> I wonder if I should start browsing with Javascript off, like I used to
02:32:07 <rust_collector> and wrap your wifi dongle with tin foil
02:32:27 <steve30> More for sanity rather than security
02:32:57 <rust_collector> do you have much stuff happening in javascript, on sites you go to?
02:33:05 <rust_collector> I should probably try
06:30:32 <Halcyon> Heh
06:30:42 <Halcyon> T3sl4: The magpies here do the same thing
06:30:57 <Halcyon> They love a good shower
06:31:03 <T3sl4> :)
06:31:43 <Halcyon> Going to be a hot one today, up to 42 degrees
06:32:05 <DHess_US> Break out the shorts.
06:32:27 <Halcyon> I'm almost always in shorts
06:33:10 <Halcyon> Anyway, time to go to work. Goodbye all.
06:33:14 <Ampera> Hi Halcyon
06:33:21 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera
06:33:22 <Ampera> just missed him :P
06:33:23 <Halcyon> *hugs*
06:33:23 <Ampera> lol
06:33:25 <Ampera> have fun at work
06:33:28 <Halcyon> Meh
06:33:56 <Halcyon> I need a new job
06:34:10 <Ampera> Get a trade
06:34:13 <Ampera> They're fun
06:34:18 <Ampera> or so I'm told :P
06:34:21 <Halcyon> They don't earn enough
06:34:31 <Halcyon> Or the ones that do, you're at work like 6 days a week
06:34:41 <Ampera> electrician pays 40 dollars an hour base rate here
06:34:49 <Ampera> car mechanic is the same or greater
06:35:08 <Ampera> that's 58.55 AUD/hr
06:35:17 <Halcyon> For me to break even, I'd need to earn the equiv. of about USD$78k
06:35:24 <Halcyon> That's without overtime etc...
06:35:43 <DHess_US> I gave shorts up in Missouri because of blood sucking insects.
06:35:43 <Ampera> My dad earns about 80k before taxes, and he makes 3/4ths of what I'd be making
06:35:57 <Halcyon> I also work 4 days a week :P
06:36:12 <Ampera> Then work 5 :P
06:36:15 <Halcyon> No
06:36:17 <Halcyon> It's shit
06:36:17 <Ampera> like the rest of us
06:36:20 <Halcyon> Pfft
06:36:29 <Ampera> my dad works five days a week, and I'll be doing so too
06:36:33 <Halcyon> The 5 day work week is bullshit. I did it for about 10 years, no thanks.
06:36:40 <Ampera> my mom basically works 6 because of the overtime she does
06:38:10 <Halcyon> I've worked for the past 20 years and in that time, I've realised I don't want to anymore. I don't want to spend 3.5 hours a day commuting. I don't want to deal with dickhead management anymore. I'm done mate.
06:38:37 <Ampera> Well don't live so far the fuck away from your job then
06:38:56 <Halcyon> I can't afford a 2 million dollar home in Sydney
06:39:09 <Ampera> Doesn't Dave live in Sydney?
06:39:16 <Halcyon> Yeah on the outskirts
06:39:21 <Ampera> Then live on the outskirts
06:39:26 <steve30> Move in with David2 :p
06:39:30 <rust_collector> live in daves garage
06:39:32 <Ampera> the point being not 2 hours away
06:39:37 <Halcyon> Even to buy an old house is still over $600k easily
06:39:45 <Ampera> then move to the US
06:39:50 <Halcyon> Steve: I would love to move in with David2 :P
06:39:58 <Ampera> our house was around 80 grand and is a 3 floor 2 family house
06:40:17 <Halcyon> If I was to move anywhere, it would be to Tasmania or New Zealand. I want my fibre internet :P
06:40:33 <rust_collector> If I wait 25-30 more years, this house will be free
06:40:39 <Halcyon> \o/
06:40:48 <Halcyon> When you've paid it off rust_collector ?
06:40:52 <Ampera> presumably he has to pay money during those 25-30 years
06:40:58 <rust_collector> no, that is when mom probably dies
06:41:02 <Halcyon> Ahh
06:41:10 <Halcyon> Something to look forward to... ???
06:41:11 <Halcyon> :P
06:41:15 <Ampera> anyways, I'm procrastinating too hard, I'm losing daylight
06:41:19 <Ampera> ciao Halcyon
06:41:24 <Halcyon> Yeh I'm going to be late, but meh.
06:41:58 <rust_collector> as long as you are late like you mean it, and look like it is supposed to be like that....
06:42:45 <Halcyon> People who carry on like pork chops about having to be in the office at a particular time can get fucked. There isn't even any need for me to be there at all. I could work from here.
06:43:13 <Halcyon> All I say to them: I can't control what time I get in (due to traffic etc...), I can only control what time I leave, so as long as I do my hours like everyone else, they can't complain about it.
06:44:16 <Halcyon> Anyway, talk soon.
06:44:29 <rust_collector> that is a thing I like about my job. If I am done, I go home, or drink coffee.
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11:31:39 <T3sl4> https://imgur.com/gallery/S5Y9N1p
11:38:06 <steve30> that looks yummy
11:44:47 <T3sl4> i bet
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19:33:17 * Halcyon mews at Ampera
20:17:59 * DogWomble moos
21:30:15 <K> hello
21:30:32 <Halcyon> Evening K
21:36:16 <Stiff> evening
22:15:31 <Ampera> morning Halcyon
22:28:40 * T3sl4 pets DogWomble
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22:54:35 * Ampera throws some good vibrations at Halcyon
22:54:42 <K> vibrators
23:05:46 * T3sl4 toots a reed instrument at K
23:12:12 <K> oh-boy?
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23:14:38 * Ampera kneads T3sl4
23:14:49 <Ampera> Halcyon is quite unfortunately absent
23:14:54 <Ampera> lazy bastard must be sleeping
23:15:01 * T3sl4 scritches Ampera
23:15:31 <Ampera> I'm just sitting here, with three hours of sleep, listening to beatles, waiting for my class to start in 45 minutes
23:15:42 <T3sl4> :/
23:15:51 <Ampera> out of boredom I remotely updated my PC over ssh
23:16:06 <Ampera> and then tried to remotely loginto it and start a local X session
23:16:13 <Ampera> then gave up out of apathy
23:17:15 <T3sl4> heh
23:17:18 <K> oh th dread
23:18:02 <Ampera> I unfortunately would never be able to do such a thing to my server, as since it's an OEM board, it refuses to boot properly without absolutely all of its IO paneltry connected
23:18:04 <Ampera> none of when I have
23:18:15 <Ampera> so I'd have to be there to press the F1 key
23:18:45 <T3sl4> Keyboard Missing. Press F1 to continue.
23:19:19 <Ampera> I am so glad to be done with school, this has been the most painful experience I've had in a while
23:19:24 <Ampera> and my parents just divorced
23:20:24 <T3sl4> at least you can move out soon
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23:20:40 <T3sl4> and get a job, and then deal with an abusive boss instead
23:20:41 <T3sl4> :/
23:21:04 <Ampera> Bosses are only abusive when you don't work hard to befriend and get to know them.
23:21:38 <Ampera> It's a simple power dynamic that, once understood, can be surfed and exploited.
23:21:45 <T3sl4> nah, that's not enough for a narcissist
23:22:05 <Ampera> If someone is always right, then they are always right
23:22:12 <Ampera> that doesn't mean you can't also be right
23:22:31 <Ampera> that simply means in that situation, the man up top has the power to never be wrong
23:23:07 <T3sl4> i'm quite glad that most of the engineering managers i've met have been smart people
23:23:37 <Ampera> I hope my bosses are good when I go for my apprenticeship
23:24:12 <Ampera> my general belief is that so long as you are good, and you make it known that you can work hard, get jobs done, and not be lazy, management in those situations can be fine
23:26:06 <T3sl4> don't worry about working hard
23:26:12 <T3sl4> if capitalists want you to work hard, they'll pay for it
23:26:24 <T3sl4> if they dont want to pay, fukkem
23:26:38 <Ampera> they would be paying for it
23:26:40 <Ampera> quite well
23:26:57 <T3sl4> it's one of the great lies of our society that working hard correlates with getting paid well
23:27:00 <Ampera> and, while I may not have experience in professional dynamics, I'd imagine the hard work comes first.
23:27:35 <Ampera> I have doubt on that, but you could have worked 3 days in your life and have more experience than I
23:28:15 <rust_collector> I find that the thing that makes you a good employee, is to not make problems for mr boss, and if you do, just tell him, so he can fix it.
23:28:46 <K> ^
23:29:18 <T3sl4> easy way to tell, if boss isn't interested in making money, then they're interested in control
23:29:46 <K> and it is better if you also tell how you think the problema can be solved
23:29:47 <Ampera> Well my plan is to go in, do exactly what I am told, make effort to learn as much as I can, and to not shy away from difficult or grueling jobs.
23:29:48 <T3sl4> given that, dumb people aren't interested in hearing suggestions that aren't their own
23:30:03 <Ampera> T3sl4, your shirt is stupid, you should change it
23:30:35 <T3sl4> but i'm not wearing a shirt
23:30:50 <rust_collector> ok, then your tattoo is stupid
23:30:55 * T3sl4 smooshes his flab into a sadface
23:31:00 <rust_collector> you should.. oh
23:31:24 <Ampera> this got me real horny real fast
23:31:54 <Ampera> T3sl4: https://i.redd.it/r3dagri64s341.png
23:32:07 <T3sl4> hah
23:33:40 <Ampera> fuck am I so excited to go to bed
23:34:48 <T3sl4> bed is good
23:35:30 <Ampera> tired is not good
23:35:37 <Ampera> today is a tactical caffeine pill day
23:35:47 <Ampera> one of the best things I've ever bought
23:37:29 <T3sl4> hmmm https://imgur.com/gallery/8Kyma
23:39:46 * Ampera locks and cocks T3sl4
23:42:10 <Ampera> I think my school might be doing some strange port 80/443 throttling, because I have enough down to Xpra an entire Windows VM, but loading Imgur took 3-4 minutes
23:43:52 <T3sl4> yikes
23:44:54 <Ampera> 15 minutes until I can get on with this quite miserable day
23:47:44 <T3sl4> gl
23:48:53 <Ampera> There's almost nothing I need to do today either
23:49:02 <Ampera> but I just have to show up :/
23:53:05 <T3sl4> sleep during lecture to assert dominance
23:53:36 <Ampera> don't curse me, it may yet happen
23:55:45 <Ampera> we have a formal paper due today, and I'm laughing to bet that when he says that people shit their pants
23:55:55 <Ampera> the level of apathy the majority of the students here is impressive
23:56:01 <Ampera> *here have
23:57:17 <T3sl4> yep
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