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00:00:37 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Fifty bucks for climbing parliament house? What a bargain! That's 1/5th the cost of climbing the bridge. Of course, it used to be be free until the pussies put up a big fence to keep out the people who elected them: https://t.co/gUhTRzkluX https://t.co/XdE2pba4iq
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02:48:27 <Ampera> Halcyon, I have everything I need service and hardware wise to run my own email server, my only limitation is that running my own email server has turned out to be the most difficult and annoying thing I've ever tried to do in terms of computing.
02:55:09 <K> running your own email is hard these days
02:55:55 <Ampera> The thing is, and what I was totally not expecting, is the actual software is what incredibly hard to use.
02:56:42 <K> real man use sendmail!
02:56:45 <Ampera> I have an SMTP server working fine, but I have no idea how secure it is because the documentation is fucking insane, and I am completely unable to get dovecot working as a POP3/IMAP server because configuring it is even more complicated and stupidly difficult.
02:58:56 <Ampera> K, I was using postfix
02:59:21 <Ampera> The issue is that they have excellent documentation in that they document literally every little bit of the program, but there's absolutely no documentation which tells me which of it I would want to use
03:00:01 <Ampera> So all I can presume is I have to either get someone who knows how to do it to baby step me through it, or just spend days reading dry webpages trying to figure out what I'm supposed to do
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03:00:55 <Ampera> IDE, you're constantly disconnecting/reconnecting, which can be rather annoying. Please get a real IRC client if you wish to remain here.
03:01:19 <Ampera> The web client is not meant for constant use, really only the occasional drop in for people who don't normally use IRC
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08:22:24 <orbii> Ampera: but it's hand-crafted.
08:22:29 <orbii> whatever that means
08:22:47 <Ampera> orbii, postfix?
08:23:00 <Ampera> oh, kiwiirc
08:23:14 <Ampera> idk all it does is be a pain to ops
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09:50:41 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Best idea ever! Install an equivalent 1.5kW panel system on the dunny block roof and tie into the same public data SolarEdge system. cc @thunderf00t We'd likely need a Sandpoint local to coordinate in some way. https://t.co/4ipJlCZShb
09:54:43 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @talldarknweirdo: no word yet how this will effect the Marvell Connectivity Universe. https://t.co/qWITR2XttP
09:58:24 <coppice_> I wonder what constitutes Marvell's connectivity business?
09:58:44 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: RT @standupmaths: Really excited that YouTube gave me the first 90 seconds of this year's Rewind to laboriously calculate ‘e’ by hand.
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10:08:48 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: The Nerd³ Show #COPPA cabana https://t.co/9kP2dTlkYy
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11:49:25 <Rugged> When are you producing more uCurrent GOLD Multimeter Adapter
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11:56:28 <Ampera> not within five minutes
11:56:55 <Ampera> it amazes me how nobody on kiwi understands the idea of a chatroom
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12:14:31 <DHess_US> https://i.redd.it/3mn0z59b7k241.jpg
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15:20:49 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: Cue the 2001 music... https://t.co/zP7bqDHSmK
15:56:02 <EEVBlog> New EEVBlog Tweet: I still refuse to believe it's a coincidence. #555timer https://t.co/jM9QSPPRwM
19:42:19 <Halcyon> I has a nom
19:49:12 * Halcyon licks Ampera
19:50:21 * T3sl4 shakes Halcyon's hand
19:51:40 <Halcyon> You know what's weird, I was actually going to follow up with exactly that but with you
19:52:06 <Halcyon> But then I didn't
19:52:12 <T3sl4> but now you did
19:52:19 <T3sl4> because you can't shake hands with things other than hands
19:52:37 <Halcyon> True, but it's funny that you should think the exact same thing
19:52:59 <Halcyon> The thought that crossed my mind was: Maybe I should just shake T3sl4's hand instead of cracking onto him like I usually do.
19:53:39 <T3sl4> it's okay, we can still do the awkward white people handshake where you hold out your fist for a bump and i grab it like it's rock paper scissors
19:54:49 <Halcyon> Bahaha
19:54:53 <Halcyon> Who does fist bumps?
19:55:08 <Halcyon> Apart from high schoolers perhaps?
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22:00:23 <steve30> hi
22:02:59 <gremlinz> sorry for the wild ride folks
22:03:13 <gremlinz> something unbeknown went astray
22:04:49 <Halcyon> Did you break something?
22:06:53 <gremlinz> nope, i was sitting down watching TV
22:09:45 <Halcyon> :P
22:12:09 <gremlinz> u gettin my pms?
22:22:42 * steve30 pets Halcyon
22:28:10 <steve30> I should get more coffee
22:43:58 <T3sl4> hmm, helps if i don't put 90V on a 50V cap
22:44:28 <K> did it go boom?
22:44:48 <K> also - pics or it didn't happen!
22:45:57 <T3sl4> more like pffffsss
22:46:08 <T3sl4> was right in my face though
22:46:13 <T3sl4> pointed away, fortunately
22:47:54 <Halcyon> Hey steve30
22:50:41 <Halcyon> T3sl4, explain
22:50:44 <Halcyon> What did you do?
22:52:56 <T3sl4> Halcyon: i put 90V on a 50V cap
22:53:10 <Halcyon> What do you mean "on" ?
22:53:20 <Halcyon> As in, joined them together?
22:53:26 <T3sl4> there exists 90V measured between the + and - terminals of the component
22:53:31 <Halcyon> Oh wait, derp
22:53:35 <Halcyon> I misread
22:53:44 <Halcyon> I thought you had 2 caps, a 90v and a 50v
22:54:01 <Halcyon> Yeh that will do it
22:54:19 <Halcyon> And why did you do it?
22:55:41 <T3sl4> because i set the voltage limit higher than the capacitor rating
22:55:51 <Halcyon> Because.... ?
22:56:01 <Halcyon> I'm trying to get to the root cause
22:56:43 <T3sl4> a lapse of intelligence?
22:56:59 * Halcyon slaps T3sl4 on the back of the head
22:57:59 <T3sl4> that's only going to cause more such examples
22:58:18 <Halcyon> I guess we learn differently
22:58:55 <T3sl4> i'm advanced. i learn from others' example
23:00:11 <Halcyon> I blew up exactly zero caps this year
23:00:15 <Halcyon> What about you
23:00:17 <Halcyon> ?
23:00:51 <T3sl4> what a terrible example you are
23:01:03 * Halcyon hangs head in shame
23:07:35 <Ampera1> Hello Halcyon
23:07:54 <Halcyon> Hello friend
23:08:03 <Ampera1> oh great I need to relaunch the bot
23:08:15 Nick: Ampera1 is now known as Ampera
23:08:17 <Halcyon> \o/
23:08:18 * T3sl4 hugs Ampera
23:08:27 * Halcyon hugs Ampera and T3sl4 together
23:09:06 <Ampera> blech weechat doesn't accept server-side commands
23:09:12 <Ampera> let me get my xpra going
23:09:31 <Halcyon> Weeeee
23:10:19 <T3sl4> haha, oh how did that happen
23:10:19 <Ampera> blech
23:10:24 <T3sl4> one of my white LED strips has a blue on it
23:10:39 <Halcyon> Heh
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23:11:30 <Ampera> There we are
23:11:32 Mode: (by Ampera) +v EEVBlog
23:11:35 <Halcyon> Yah
23:11:46 <Halcyon> Ampera, I had a dream about you last night
23:11:47 <Ampera> I took a staff to school
23:12:23 <Ampera> Halcyon, I'd call the police, but I don't feel like calling you right now
23:12:45 <Halcyon> Calm down, I dreamt that we finally met
23:12:50 <T3sl4> what would you call him
23:13:02 <Halcyon> Acting Sergeant ?
23:13:18 <Ampera> is that your rank?
23:13:24 <Halcyon> At the moment yes
23:13:35 <Ampera> well I'd call you mad
23:13:41 <Halcyon> Good :)
23:13:49 <Halcyon> I hate when people call me Sergeant
23:13:50 <Ampera> anyways, it was fun getting here, took about an hour
23:13:58 <Halcyon> Snow ?
23:14:07 <Ampera> aye, thus the staff
23:14:28 <Halcyon> Sydney is full of bushfire smoke at the moment
23:14:36 <Halcyon> My office at work stinks of bushfire
23:15:03 <Ampera> I walked past a store which had an electric sign that reeked of ozone
23:15:49 <Halcyon> Neon ?
23:15:54 <Ampera> no, broken
23:16:05 <Halcyon> Was it buzzing?
23:16:08 <Ampera> might make mention of it to the police, but they probably wouldn't give a shit
23:16:13 <Ampera> I believe so
23:16:21 <Halcyon> Why would Police give a crap about a sign ?
23:16:23 <Ampera> but by reek I mean, you could smell it a couple buildings down
23:16:28 <Ampera> since ozone is toxic
23:16:37 <Halcyon> Meh, it'll burn itself out
23:16:39 <T3sl4> Ampera: just "accidentally" spill some gasoline near it
23:16:46 <Ampera> that too
23:16:52 <Halcyon> Sounds more like a job for the Fire Brigade
23:16:53 <Ampera> (the highly combustible part)
23:17:00 <Ampera> who will do what
23:17:01 <Halcyon> They deal with HAZMAT, not the Police
23:17:18 <Halcyon> But in terms of a sign, nothing
23:17:19 <T3sl4> yeah, fire dept, marshall w/e would be who's concerned about fire hazards
23:17:37 <Ampera> well I was thinking about tipping someone off
23:17:39 <Ampera> but eh
23:17:46 <Halcyon> How big is this sign ?
23:18:47 <Ampera> big-ish
23:19:00 <Halcyon> Metres?
23:19:06 <Ampera> what's that
23:19:13 <Halcyon> 100 cm
23:19:22 <Ampera> what's a cm
23:19:26 <Halcyon> 1000 mm
23:19:30 <Ampera> what's a mm
23:19:31 <Halcyon> (We can keep going)
23:19:37 <Ampera> please, thanks
23:19:43 <Ampera> I wish to get to the bottom of this
23:20:03 <Halcyon> I think you just want to be the bottom
23:20:13 <Ampera> the beard says no
23:20:28 <Halcyon> Ew, you have a beard?
23:20:34 <Ampera> aye
23:20:38 <Halcyon> Gross
23:20:42 <Ampera> faggot
23:20:47 <Halcyon> Yes?
23:20:51 <T3sl4> Ampera: inches are metric, stop playing dumb
23:21:07 <Ampera> T3sl4, don't hate the playa, hate the game
23:21:19 <Halcyon> But yes, getting back to the sign, if it's releasing a lot of ozone, I suspect it probably won't last that long?
23:21:34 <Ampera> I seem to recall it doing that before earlier in the year when I walked past
23:22:05 <Halcyon> What does the sign say out of curiosity ?
23:22:19 <Ampera> it's a store sign for a deli/convenience store I believe
23:22:30 <Halcyon> Cheap Chinese PSU perhaps?
23:22:36 <Halcyon> T3sl4, this is more your dept.
23:23:05 * T3sl4 sparks at Halcyon
23:23:40 * Halcyon morphs into O3
23:23:48 <steve30> Halcyon, There were too many straight guys at the gym yesterday.
23:23:55 <Ampera> HAH
23:23:59 <Ampera> I KNEW THE GAYS HATED THE STRAIGHTS
23:24:05 <Halcyon> Didn't get any slap and tickle Steve?
23:24:12 <steve30> nope
23:24:12 <Ampera> THEY SAID THEY WOULDN'T GO AFTER TRADITIONAL MARRIAGE, BUT THEY DID
23:24:23 <Halcyon> Ampera: Not hate, we just want to sleep with some of them and they are being overly difficult
23:24:36 <Ampera> btw, steve30, it was xfwm4, I was actually able to get it to look just like the image, at least a bit
23:24:41 <Halcyon> At least guys like T3sl4 play the game
23:24:56 <Ampera> in this case, I hate both the playa and the game
23:25:26 <Halcyon> Straight guys are like the forbidden fruit
23:25:48 <Halcyon> I guess like how Lesbians are to straight guys ?!
23:25:51 <Halcyon> *shrug*
23:26:14 <T3sl4> Ampera: i see you're still mental
23:26:26 * Ampera waves his large stick at T3sl4
23:26:31 * T3sl4 noogies Ampera
23:26:46 * Ampera sneezes nails at T3sl4
23:27:01 * T3sl4 receives Ampera's nine inches
23:27:21 * Ampera Quakes T3sl4 with DOOM
23:27:25 <T3sl4> get your mind out the gutter,,,, oh wait https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTFwQP86BRs
23:27:31 <T3sl4> Duke Quakem?
23:27:35 <Ampera> at school, internet too lol to watch youtube
23:30:43 * Halcyon cuddles up next to Ampera
23:30:53 <Ampera> how do, anyways, Halcyon
23:30:59 <Halcyon> Yeh not bad mate
23:31:03 <Halcyon> It's my weekend now
23:31:07 <steve30> Ampera, cool
23:31:25 <steve30> Halcyon, I usually find gays cuter than straights
23:31:36 <Halcyon> Straights can be VERY cute
23:31:49 <Ampera> you're both wrong and heretical
23:31:53 <steve30> well, I guess some are
23:32:10 <Ampera> nobody is cute and everyone should be fucking smacked to death with hot irons
23:32:11 <Halcyon> I just hate how gay some straight guys appear these days
23:32:12 <steve30> There were a couple of cute guys there though yesterday
23:32:16 <Halcyon> It's very confusing
23:32:36 * Halcyon keeps cuddling Ampera
23:33:03 <Ampera> I find the notion that homosexuality has a defined look to be insulting and discriminatory
23:33:17 <Halcyon> It's not just about the look
23:33:23 <Halcyon> It's many attributes
23:33:29 <Ampera> or talk, or walk, or personality
23:33:45 <Ampera> there is absolutely nothing whatsoever that defines a homosexual other than a sexual attraction to the same sex
23:33:53 <Halcyon> You can't tell me you've never met someone who you thought was gay or straight but turned out to be the opposite
23:34:13 <Ampera> I don't make those assumptions.
23:34:22 <Halcyon> In theory I agree Ampera. In reality, there is such thing as "being gay".
23:34:45 <Ampera> There's being flamboyant, or fruity, but being gay means being attracted to men.
23:34:57 <Halcyon> Or in T3sl4's case, bi/questionable :P
23:35:05 <Halcyon> AKA a prick tease
23:35:23 <Ampera> he has a beard, automatically straight
23:35:41 <steve30> I wonder what T3sl4 would do if we gave him a cute boy
23:35:44 <Halcyon> How does that fit in with you then ?
23:36:12 <Ampera> Halcyon, straight
23:36:14 <Ampera> well
23:36:16 <Halcyon> T3sl4 would probably offer to fix his iphone or something?
23:36:18 <Ampera> more asexual because I'm fucking broken
23:36:25 <Halcyon> You aren't broken
23:36:30 <Halcyon> At least not completely
23:37:38 <Halcyon> You just need to find a guy/girl and put whatever, where ever
23:38:13 <Ampera> I don't have any sexual attraction to anyone whatsoever
23:38:21 <Ampera> outside of me being female, to which then I do
23:38:33 <Ampera> but since I can't turn apples into oranges, there ain't a lot I can do about it besides abstain
23:39:29 <Ampera> Right now, as a male, and willing to remain so, I have no sexual attraction, and no will to be with someone.
23:39:37 <Halcyon> Wait... what does you being female have to do with anything?
23:39:58 <Ampera> For me, I define gender dysphoria as being unable to experience any sexuality whatsoever as the gender I was born as.
23:40:28 <Halcyon> Okies
23:40:29 <Ampera> I do have sexual attractions, but only within the context of me having a female body to experience them with
23:40:37 <Ampera> but as I said, apples and oranges.
23:40:50 <Halcyon> So, you want a front bottom, not a back bottom?
23:41:02 <Ampera> huh?
23:41:15 <Ampera> I want lips not a sausage
23:41:20 <Halcyon> Yes
23:41:43 <Halcyon> But either way, you would need to be the "receiver"
23:41:49 * steve30 is playing Superfrog
23:42:26 <Ampera> Halcyon, exactly
23:42:54 <Halcyon> So can you not enjoy it either way?
23:43:06 <Ampera> define either way
23:43:08 <Halcyon> Regardless of the orifice
23:43:30 <Ampera> in the body I have, I cannot experience sexual pleasure or attraction. It's part of a chemical mixture that just doesn't react.
23:43:41 <Halcyon> Mmmk
23:44:13 <Ampera> I can't definitively say what would happen if impossible things were to transpire, but, within the realm of fantasy at least, I do have sexual attraction as a female.
23:44:30 <Halcyon> Got ya
23:45:21 * Ampera passes T3sl4 a cute bunny
23:46:56 <Halcyon> I'm going to head to bed. I'm on the phone/Discord if you still want to chat
23:47:01 <Ampera> good night
23:47:08 <Ampera> I'm going into class in about 10 minutes
23:47:39 <Halcyon> Okies, have a good day, I'll talk when you finish school
23:48:24 * steve30 cuddles Halcyon