// #eevblog — 2019-02-24
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03:28:34 <DHess_US> Lol, the latest Orville spoofs Star Trek TMP.
03:29:15 <DHess_US> And The Matrix.
03:31:24 <T3sl4> The Matrix Presents?
03:33:26 <DHess_US> No, actually it was spoofing the second Matrix movie.
03:34:11 <DHess_US> Orville does a custom score for every episode and deliberately spoofs the music from different science fiction movies. It is hillarious to listen to.
03:35:35 <T3sl4> :D
05:23:23 <jackbrown> anyone has an idea on how I can identify those IC on this board ? https://ibb.co/CVTwzQL
05:36:00 <rust_collector> small one is a hall effect sensor, and the other one is a h6779 fan controller chip, I would guess? I have no idea, you might get lucky
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06:56:39 <jackbrown> rust_collector: thanks for the clue!
07:01:07 <rust_collector> I really have no idea of where you would find any good info on that, but at least it is something you can look for
07:02:26 <jackbrown> rust_collector: yes thanks, it's just to learn I'd love to fix that tiny fan, but I think I have to give up since replacement ic are hard to identify/find
07:11:05 <rust_collector> maybe ou could try to use the board from some other fan, and see if you can get it running?
07:11:41 <rust_collector> I bet a motor is a motor, as long as you can get the sensor aligned ok?
07:13:49 <jackbrown> positive is the gray and black is the negative? I'm starting to have some doubts https://ibb.co/CVTwzQL
07:14:25 <jackbrown> rust_collector: I used my lab PSU at 5V to power it but it's DEAD
07:14:31 <rust_collector> or take the board off, and see if it is a normal dc motor, or a 3 phase thing, that needs some kind of controller thing, like a rc car "esc"
07:16:39 <rust_collector> does it do anything if you poke your power into the solder blobs at 2 and 8, marked 1 and 0? also, does the fan spin freely by hand?
07:17:25 <rust_collector> or, wait until the people who knows something wakes up, lol
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09:30:34 <Larry> I enjoyed your video entitled "Designing a Lab Power Supply - Part 1" very much and since it was labeled
09:32:44 <Larry> Part 1 and To Be Continued, I started looking for Part 2. When I went to your site I could not
09:33:47 <Larry> find it. Did you ever due the 2nd Part?
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10:47:22 <Halcyon> Installing SCSI drivers in Windows 7 x64 is fun
10:47:26 <Halcyon> I think I worked it out though
10:48:00 <steve30> evening Halcyon
10:48:07 <rust_collector> just wait until you run an update, and it removes all your drivers
10:48:30 <Halcyon> I don't think Microsoft are releasing any more updates for Windows 7 are they?
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10:48:53 <Halcyon> Unless they are significant security fixes
10:48:57 <rust_collector> I have no idea
10:49:12 <Halcyon> Hey Steve :)
10:49:53 <Halcyon> YAY! And it detects my tape drive \o/
10:50:13 <rust_collector> I di dupdate my 7 install the other day, because it thought it was 2044, so refused to run any updates. I fixed that, and now my ssd is full, lol
10:51:13 <Halcyon> Heheh :) Yeh it'll do that
10:51:51 <rust_collector> I guess that is the thing I like about 10. it is fairly small
10:52:01 <steve30> I keep pondering trying Windows 7 out
10:52:10 <Halcyon> I refuse to use 10, I just can't warm up to the interface and its quirks
10:52:21 <Halcyon> I'm forced to use it at work and I fucking hate every moment of it
10:52:37 <Halcyon> It seems that stability is optional in Windows 10
10:52:58 <steve30> I might try 10 out on my modern PC but there's no way I'm switching to it from Linux
10:53:03 <Halcyon> Windows 7 is the last version I'll ever use
10:53:12 <steve30> Can't you go and arrest Bill Gates or something?
10:53:14 <rust_collector> I think it is ok-ish, if you use a different start menu, and... yeah, never update it
10:53:18 <Halcyon> I use Linux now where possible
10:54:08 <Ampera> Windows 10 is too big and bulky for my tastes.
10:54:09 <Halcyon> It was like Microsoft borrowed a couple of Apple developers, created Windows 10, made it retarded then released it
10:54:22 <rust_collector> The only thing I use windows for now, is the car diagnostics, and the crappy owon usb o-scope
10:54:30 <Halcyon> Win10 can go and sit over there with Windows ME and Windows Vista.
10:54:35 <Ampera> It takes forever to boot on anything but solid state storage, the backround processes the system takes up are far too demanding, and the API overhead is immense
10:54:56 <Ampera> Windows 10, or rather its server variants are fine, though, I used to use them daily, the UI is perfectly fine
10:54:57 <rust_collector> HEY! vista was the best thing windows ever did...for linux people
10:55:05 <Halcyon> rust_collector: Hahaha true
10:55:13 <Ampera> Halcyon, I bought that board, CPU, and RAM combo
10:55:23 <Ampera> but that's not all I bought
10:55:31 <Halcyon> Microsoft's failings really did get a rocket up Linux devs. to create better desktop OS's
10:55:36 <rust_collector> any "vista ready" computer would fly on pretty much any linux of the time
10:55:38 <Halcyon> Oh nice. What else did you buy?
10:55:43 <Ampera> Halcyon, I got one of these: https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+X5650+%40+2.67GHz&id=1304
10:55:59 <Ampera> 24 bucks
10:56:04 <Halcyon> Ah nice, I think I have on of those in my old desktop machine
10:56:07 <Halcyon> They are a nice CPU
10:56:24 <Ampera> If the memory that comes with that board is ECC, I will have full ECC RAM too
10:56:32 <Halcyon> \o/
10:56:38 <Halcyon> Knowing HP, it will be ECC
10:56:47 <Halcyon> It's unusual to see Xeon machines without ECC memory
10:56:51 <Ampera> no clue if it's the original memory though
10:57:05 <Halcyon> You might find that the board only supports ECC
10:57:09 <Ampera> but I assume as much, I also have 4GB of ECC DDR3 that Ic an't use on anything
10:57:22 <Ampera> it might
10:57:32 <Ampera> but regardless I have at least 5GB of RAM, and at most 8
10:57:42 <Halcyon> Did you see I got the SCSI card working in Windows 7?
10:57:49 <Halcyon> I had to "borrow" the drivers from Vista :P
10:58:05 <Ampera> congrats
10:58:24 <Halcyon> You can download x86 drivers from Adaptec (or whoever they are these days) but not x64
10:58:32 <Halcyon> But Vista came with them built-in
10:58:50 <Ampera> or you could have just used 32-bit Windows 7
10:59:01 <Halcyon> I don't have a x86 copy of Windows 7
10:59:12 <Ampera> that's never stopped anybody before
10:59:23 <Halcyon> Or I could just use my legit copy that isn't doing anything
10:59:49 <Ampera> Well I'm glad I don't have to worry if my OS copies are legit or not, or getting them regardless
11:00:01 <Halcyon> Me too (for the most part)
11:00:17 <Halcyon> Although I am still slightly impressed that my copy of Windows 2003 still activates online successfully
11:00:28 <Ampera> my copy of XP does too
11:01:25 <Ampera> and I can report I am still sick
11:01:32 <Halcyon> Aw :(
11:01:51 <Ampera> and probably will be for several days more
11:02:45 <Halcyon> Eat some vegetables :P
11:02:57 <Ampera> oh that'll make me really sick thank you
11:03:03 <Halcyon> Hehehe
11:07:10 * steve30 hugs Ampera better
11:07:21 <Halcyon> I kind of want to make chicken soup
11:07:28 <Ampera> mmm chicken soup
11:07:35 <Halcyon> With some nice fresh sourdough to dunk in it
11:07:39 <Ampera> with lotsa soba
11:07:41 <Ampera> some spam
11:07:44 <Halcyon> Mmmm noodles
11:07:47 <Halcyon> No spam
11:07:50 <Ampera> buckwheat noodles
11:07:56 <Ampera> yes spam >:(
11:08:00 <Halcyon> Spam can fuck off
11:08:53 <Halcyon> I can't bare to eat mechanically separated meats
11:09:01 <Halcyon> All the eyelids and anus's you can eat
11:09:47 <Ampera> I don't give a shit, it won't kill me and it tastes good
11:09:58 <Halcyon> You can eat it all you like, I don't care
11:09:59 <rust_collector> meh, it is all mechanically separated with a saw or knife. I think it is the leftovers that are pressure washed off the bones you are thinking of?
11:10:26 <Halcyon> rust_collector: Don't they force it through a sieve-type device?
11:10:45 <rust_collector> I doubt they force bones thru a screen
11:10:54 <Halcyon> Not the bones, just the softer bits
11:11:07 <Halcyon> Any solids are left behind
11:11:23 <rust_collector> yea, maybe. or just throw it in the grinder, or just biol it until it seems ok
11:11:30 <rust_collector> boil
11:11:41 <Halcyon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2sndz9tNlw
11:11:42 <Halcyon> Nom
11:12:25 <rust_collector> chicken does not count
11:12:59 <Halcyon> It's the same basic process for all meats
11:13:10 <Halcyon> Even fish
11:13:44 <rust_collector> yeah, but don't get that machine, because they only show it with chicken, which is like mush even when they are alive
11:14:02 <Halcyon> I'm not sure what kind of chicken you're eating?
11:14:03 <Halcyon> :P
11:14:14 <Halcyon> Chicken boob is fairly firm
11:14:54 <rust_collector> I am not eating chicken, lol
11:15:54 <Halcyon> I feel like a chilli dog
11:16:08 <rust_collector> I just think that most of the chicken we get these days, is just too force fed and quick grown, and... blah
11:16:18 <rust_collector> you feel like a chihuaua?
11:16:18 <Halcyon> Yeh a lot of it is
11:16:37 <rust_collector> oh, no, that is taco dog
11:16:45 <Halcyon> I tend to spend a little more on meats and veges and buy locally grown stuff
11:16:48 <rust_collector> what is a chilli dog?
11:17:07 <Halcyon> https://www.simplyrecipes.com/recipes/chili_dog/
11:17:28 <rust_collector> I mean, what dog
11:17:33 <Halcyon> *shrug*
11:17:43 <rust_collector> taco dog is chihuaua...
11:18:04 <Halcyon> Dachshund maybe?
11:18:17 <rust_collector> sounds very chilli like
11:18:44 <Halcyon> Some even come with their own bun: https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/video/2015/sep/21/running-of-the-wieners-sausage-dogs-cut-the-mustard-in-melbourne-race-video
11:20:47 <Halcyon> Anyway I'm going to go get myself dressed and go to the shops, need to get stuff for lunch/dinner.
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11:21:30 <Halcyon> I might make steak sammiches later
11:21:38 <Halcyon> With potato wedges
11:21:58 <steve30> I had chicken biryani tonight
11:22:03 <Halcyon> Oh yum
11:22:32 <Halcyon> Now I feel like that
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11:25:52 <rust_collector> now I want corndogs.
11:30:56 <DHess_US> Don't let them fool you. Those cute looking wiener dogs would kill you and everybody you love if given a chance.
11:31:21 <rust_collector> they are almost as evil as horses
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12:38:39 <Halcyon> I don't think I've ever had a corn dog
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12:53:21 <steve30> anyone here watch DiodeGoneWild on youtube?
12:53:30 <rust_collector> yep
12:54:18 <steve30> I've been working my way through his videos recently. I like his furry helper :)
12:54:50 <rust_collector> his dog is pretty evil too
13:07:53 <rust_collector> who makes a good-ish low cost laser printer?
13:08:02 <Halcyon> Brother
13:08:08 <rust_collector> ok
13:08:26 <rust_collector> no weirdness setting them up?
13:08:38 <Halcyon> I've had my 2250DN for about 6 or 7 years. Great little printer. Comes with built-in Ethernet and duxpler
13:08:45 <Halcyon> Toner is relatively cheap too
13:08:51 <rust_collector> sounds good
13:08:54 <Halcyon> Nope. Just like any other printer
13:09:07 <Halcyon> It's an old model, I'm sure it has been superseded by now
13:09:42 <rust_collector> wife has had a thing for hp inkjets. so that is all I almost know how to get working
13:10:21 <rust_collector> but now it is out of ink again, so she mentioned a laser printer, which I think is a great idea
13:11:13 <Halcyon> Depends what you're printing and what kind of volumes
13:11:19 <Halcyon> If you're doing photos, don't buy a laser
13:11:39 <Halcyon> If it's just documents etc... and photo quality doesn't matter, the absolutely laser is the way to go
13:11:45 <rust_collector> well, she can keep the hp for that, if she has to
13:12:04 <rust_collector> it is almost a year old, so it should be ok
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18:12:04 <Halcyon> Hey Ampera, sorry I rebooted and forgot to open IRC again
18:12:10 <Ampera> Alright
18:12:19 <Ampera> I sent you an email, is your tape drive Parallel SCSI?
18:12:22 <Halcyon> To answer your question, yes
18:12:26 <Ampera> Alright, just curious.
18:13:07 <Halcyon> https://support.hpe.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c01077290
18:13:15 <Halcyon> I have 2 of the internal ones
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20:59:32 <Halcyon> YAY Tape backups are running
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21:38:40 <DHess_US> I still have nightmares bout tape backups.
21:39:11 <DHess_US> Backup to tape, verify backup, remove tape, install tape, verify backup fails
21:39:47 <DHess_US> I backed up to CD and DVD for many years without problems after that.
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