// #eevblog — 2019-02-04
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15:20:07 * Halcyon prods T3sl4
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15:20:27 <Halcyon> You like it bitch
15:20:28 <Halcyon> :)
15:20:33 <T3sl4> :/
15:20:49 <Halcyon> *shrugs* I'm bored
15:21:18 <Halcyon> Dishwasher is doing its thing, robotic vacuum is on... I'm like in that episode of The Simpsons where Marge cracks open a bottle of wine
15:25:50 <T3sl4> i imagine you'll make it to two glasses though :P
15:26:02 <Halcyon> I'm 50% through the first :P
15:26:16 <Halcyon> It needs to chill a bit more in the fridge
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18:38:33 Quit: steve30 ([email protected]) Quit: <Baljem> steve30: by the way, I had the most bizarre dream the other day that someone came in here and seriously flipped their shit over your quit message and why aren't the ops /doing/ something about it
18:48:22 <Ampera> For some strange reason I cannot explain, retweets are always cut short.
18:48:35 <Ampera> At what point just seems to vary randomly
19:22:44 <bigbadwolv> not due to number of characters?
19:51:10 <Ampera> I don't know of a single instance that, because of it being a retweet, that there would be a character limit.
19:55:39 <Halcyon> Weird
19:57:28 <Ampera> Halcyon! \o/
19:57:38 <Halcyon> That's me :)
19:57:45 <Ampera> My Pentium 3 is fixed
19:58:01 <Halcyon> What was wrong with it?
19:58:25 <Ampera> It had a few things borrowed from it, the OS was corrupted on the hard drive, so it needed a new one.
19:58:38 <Ampera> The optical drive just didn't want to work, for whatever reason, and I had trouble finding a working IDE cable.
19:58:56 <Halcyon> Bad IDE cables are pretty rare
19:59:06 <Ampera> In my experience they are common, very common.
19:59:18 <Ampera> Especially 80 pin cables, those things can just die, especially if they are cheap.
19:59:30 <Ampera> even if there doesn't seem to be something wrong with the cable, it will just be bad
19:59:40 <Halcyon> I've probably worked on maybe 500-1000 machines when IDE was popular, might have come across 2 or 3 dodgy cables
19:59:55 <Ampera> I probably own more than that.
20:00:22 <Ampera> I have at least two broken 80 pin IDE cables. However that might be the difference, new IDE cables are often perfectly fine.
20:00:30 <Ampera> However after they get bent around, twisted, turned, etc, they can just break.
20:01:25 <Ampera> Anyways, every single one of my older PCs was broken in one way or another. My Pentium 3 is working fine now, and my dual GTX 7800 machine has stopped overheating after taking apart both GPUs and using an entire tube of Arctic Silver 5
20:01:44 <Halcyon> Yeh the 80 pin ones you shouldn't kink
20:01:50 <Halcyon> Same as solid core ethernet cables
20:02:15 <Halcyon> I've seen people fold IDE cables over on themselves (and even cable tie them) for neatness
20:02:20 <Halcyon> It's not good
20:02:20 <Ampera> Well that's the thing, they can just get like that.
20:02:45 <Ampera> nah I just throw my IDE cables wherever, but they are big, long cabless in often tightly packed computers full of edges
20:02:58 <Ampera> they can just end up kinked. I need to get some more one of these days.
20:03:11 <Halcyon> I've always held onto old ones
20:03:15 <Ampera> I've also run out of floppy drives, and have started taking them from computers that I'm not using.
20:03:21 <Ampera> Same with optical drives
20:03:25 <Halcyon> I probably have a box of 150 each of 30 and 60 pin ones
20:03:44 <Halcyon> If you need parts, let me know
20:03:44 <Ampera> you mean 40 and 80 pin?
20:03:50 <Halcyon> Yes sorry, retard
20:04:09 <Halcyon> I'm happy to send you over a small box
20:04:14 <Ampera> Nah, that's too expensive for me to ask you to do, I could probably buy them brand new for however much it costs to ship them
20:04:32 <Halcyon> A few KGs to send isn't too expensive
20:04:40 <Ampera> IDE cables can be cheap.
20:04:42 <Halcyon> Besides, that's what friends are for
20:05:03 <Halcyon> Yes but you might be getting cheap Chinese crap, not new-old stock
20:05:05 <Ampera> one of these days I'm gonna have to get some neat old computer gear and send it to you for all the stuff you've given me.
20:05:23 <Halcyon> In good time
20:05:24 <Ampera> no, I'm saying used IDE cables I can probably get free if I just ask the right people.
20:05:31 <Halcyon> When you come here, you can shout me a drink or two
20:05:49 <Ampera> I'll buy enough pizzas to choak on :P
20:06:02 <Halcyon> Oh you can jerk your meat in front of me
20:06:11 <Ampera> if I have any left by the time I'm there
20:06:11 <Halcyon> Specially your smoked chicken
20:06:12 <Halcyon> Nom
20:06:15 <Ampera> oh
20:06:30 <Halcyon> Haha
20:06:36 <Ampera> you'd need something to smoke it in though :P
20:06:40 <Halcyon> I wasn't being filthy... but then I was...
20:06:45 <Halcyon> Next door has a smoker I'm sure
20:06:50 <Halcyon> Can borrow his
20:07:06 <Halcyon> Otherwise I shall buy one
20:07:12 <Ampera> you'd also need a good wood, I personally use willow, which I don't imagine will be in Australia.
20:07:19 <Halcyon> Wood we have plenty of
20:07:24 <Halcyon> It's literally growing in the back yard
20:07:31 <Ampera> it can't be any wood though, for example you can't use pine
20:07:34 <Halcyon> We mostly use Applewood etc...
20:07:36 <Ampera> or any softwoods
20:07:47 <Ampera> Apple will work.
20:08:04 <Ampera> I use an electric smoker, so I could do with just a handful of wood bits, which I could easily bring, but I don't imagine you'd have one of those.
20:08:21 <Halcyon> No need to bring anything, you can source it all here no dramas
20:08:26 <Halcyon> It also won't upset customs
20:08:45 <Ampera> yeah because customs is going to get pissed I bring a small box full of wood into the country
20:08:58 <Halcyon> *nod*
20:09:12 <Ampera> :P
20:09:20 <Halcyon> That's why they fumigate shipping containers, to kill off bugs and worms etc...
20:09:29 <Ampera> i'd bring it in my luggage...
20:09:54 <Ampera> the box that holds the chips in my smoker is smaller than a small bread tin
20:10:01 <Halcyon> Or you can just buy it here?
20:10:03 <Halcyon> It's WOOD
20:10:12 <Ampera> yeah, but this wood tastes like chocolate and coffee
20:10:20 <Halcyon> Mmmmm coffee
20:10:31 <Ampera> but yeah we could use whatever. Just thinkings
20:11:18 <Halcyon> https://ausbbq.com.au/2014/08/05/a-guide-to-smoking-with-native-australian-hardwoods/
20:11:25 <Halcyon> It's all jibberish to me
20:11:55 <Ampera> pecan wood can be quite good, so is cherry
20:12:07 <Halcyon> I love Macadamia
20:12:15 <Halcyon> The nut, I'd imagine the wood would be nice too
20:12:25 <Ampera> I have an infinite supply of willow, which is why I use it. That and it tastes better than the store bought crap I have
20:13:01 <Ampera> you should have seen my dad trying to cut a branch off the tree in our back yard. My god that was stupid.
20:13:19 <Ampera> he basically got his biggest hacksaw, and started going at it.
20:13:29 <Ampera> ultimately he quit out, and I chopped the rest of it off with a pickaxe
20:15:42 <Ampera> if you want, at any time, I can send you a care package full of american snacks and stuff, things you wouldn't normally get over there
20:16:11 <Halcyon> I would like that, only if I get to send you one
20:16:23 <Halcyon> But I'd imagine you would be difficult to buy for, so I'd fill it with junk food
20:16:27 <Ampera> I'll arrange it.
20:16:34 <Ampera> well that's what I'd do anyways.
20:17:07 <Ampera> my basic tastes in junk food is a great love of sours, sweet is alright, but not excessive, I don't like chocolate, and I'm not a fan of biscuits/crackers
20:17:19 <Halcyon> Dammit, there goes Tim Tams
20:17:21 <Ampera> unless they're soda crackers, but I can get those here
20:17:27 <Ampera> anything to note with you?
20:17:54 <Halcyon> I can't say I've eaten a lot of yankie food, but I like Mint Milano's
20:18:28 <Ampera> Well I haven't eating much upside down food either, but I know stuff I like and don't like
20:18:41 <Ampera> I mean I imagine most of your junk doesn't have much veg in it.
20:18:44 <Halcyon> Do you like honey?
20:18:58 <Ampera> I don't dislike honey, but I'm not a fan of ouvertly sweet things
20:19:08 <Halcyon> I'll think of something
20:19:20 <Halcyon> I'd have to do my homework as to what isn't available there
20:19:41 <Ampera> you could ask me if you want
20:19:46 <Halcyon> A lot of stuff gets exported/imported from AU <-> US.
20:19:57 <Ampera> oh, and one thing, don't send me vegemite
20:21:04 <Halcyon> I won't
20:21:12 <Ampera> good
20:21:13 <Ampera> lol
20:21:31 <Halcyon> I honestly don't know what I would send though
20:22:12 <Ampera> We have a lot of sweets I don't think you've heard of, I'm pretty sure I could get interesting.
20:22:38 <Ampera> milanos are easy, I can get those in the supermarket.
20:22:54 <Halcyon> Although they do really nice chilli chips here
20:22:57 <Halcyon> (Crisps)
20:23:12 <Ampera> do you guys have andy capp's stuff?
20:23:31 <Halcyon> It doesn't ring a bell
20:23:43 <Halcyon> But then again I don't generally buy chips and such
20:23:57 <Halcyon> Mark would eat them though
20:24:09 <Ampera> they aren't chips
20:24:11 <Ampera> nor crisps
20:24:16 <Halcyon> Then what?
20:24:16 <Ampera> well sort of
20:24:23 <Ampera> you'll just have to see then
20:24:30 <Ampera> (or cheat and look it up)
20:25:37 <Halcyon> Meh, I'll wai
20:25:38 <Halcyon> t
20:25:43 <Halcyon> It'll be a surprise
20:26:28 <Ampera> do you have a 3D printer?
20:26:35 <Halcyon> No, but I have access to some
20:26:44 <Ampera> do you have hair?
20:27:07 <Ampera> on your head before you get wise
20:27:08 <Halcyon> Plenty.... where is this going?
20:27:14 <Halcyon> Dammit :P
20:27:52 <Halcyon> But yes, I'm not losing my hair, why?
20:27:53 <Ampera> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2859415
20:27:57 <Ampera> you want any?
20:28:16 <Ampera> they are the actual best combs I've ever used, nearly impossible to break, unless you start really trying to flex it
20:28:20 <Halcyon> Hah, neat. But no. I don't brush my hair.
20:28:30 <Ampera> they're combs
20:28:45 <Halcyon> I don't comb my hair either
20:29:19 <Ampera> just curious, was just thinking of things to pad out the package, since US postage is VERY expensive, especially compared to places like Europe and AU
20:29:32 <Halcyon> Doesn't it go off weight?
20:29:37 <Ampera> let me get the numbers
20:30:25 <Halcyon> https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2594263
20:30:28 <Halcyon> That's cool
20:30:36 <Ampera> https://postcalc.usps.com/Calculator/MailServices?country=10013&ccode=AU&omil=False&dmil=False&mdt=2%2F4%2F2019&mdz=8%3A29&m=12
20:31:04 <Halcyon> Yeh that's flat rate
20:31:05 <Ampera> if you know it will work on yours, I can send you some of those
20:31:13 <Ampera> just to give an example
20:31:13 <Halcyon> What if you supplied your own box
20:31:59 <Ampera> how heavy
20:32:09 <Halcyon> We have flat-rate boxes/satchels too. But I often just rock up with my own box which they measure/weigh and it's a different price
20:33:20 <Ampera> For a 20 pound box, maximum length 42", with I believe 97" max for all dimensions to australia 6-10 days, 148 USD
20:33:33 <Halcyon> Fuck me that's expensive
20:33:44 <Ampera> USPS, DHL, and FedEx are probably all more expensive
20:33:46 <Ampera> *UPS
20:34:09 <Ampera> their flat rate boxes are actually cheaper
20:34:23 <Halcyon> I can send you 2KG via air mail for AUD$54.40
20:34:38 <Ampera> that's 2KG, this is 20 pounds
20:34:41 <Ampera> big big difference
20:34:46 <K> hello
20:34:46 <EEVBlog> Hello there, K!
20:34:48 <K> yay!
20:35:06 <Halcyon> OK 10KG = AUD$54.40
20:35:08 <Halcyon> :P
20:35:18 <Ampera> 2KG, up to same dimensions is 70 USD
20:35:42 <Halcyon> For that price, I can send up to 14KG
20:35:56 <Halcyon> (as in the AU price above)
20:36:26 <Ampera> what's your postcode?
20:36:56 <Halcyon> Sorry 2 KG is the max for economy. Next rate up is $119.30 for up to 20KG
20:37:00 <Halcyon> 2783
20:39:06 <Ampera> UPS for 8 pounds claimes 241 USD expedited, 273 USD cost saving
20:39:15 <Ampera> yes those numbers are in the right order
20:39:18 <Halcyon> Yeh I find that here too
20:39:34 <Halcyon> "Expedited" is always cheaper than regular
20:39:42 <Halcyon> For using UPS
20:40:31 <Ampera> FedEx economy for the same thing is 290 USD
20:40:37 <Halcyon> Fuck
20:40:40 <Halcyon> Why is it so expensive
20:40:56 <Ampera> because US to international is some of the most expensive shipping there is
20:41:23 <Halcyon> You might as well book tickets and bring it here yourself
20:43:19 <Ampera> DHL says 221 USD online, 275 USD in store
20:44:51 <Ampera> Well, I'll get the stuff, and see what I can do about packing it. I'm likely going to get a flat rate box, and see what happens from there.
20:46:23 <Halcyon> You don't need to send me anything
20:46:42 <Halcyon> Just save up for your trip
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20:46:51 <Halcyon> Timmeh
20:46:55 <DogWomble> hey :)
20:47:04 <Ampera> nah, I'll figure it out, it's not that much
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20:47:54 <Ampera> and by the time I'll have the time and security to take a trip to Australia, I doubt funds wil be much of an issue.
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