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38:24 <Damalon01> yo
07:46 <chaoticwaffle> Anyone on?
07:57 <chaoticwaffle> The IRC isn't working for me.
34:59 <s_gmusic> rawrg
53:23 <Steven> yay, homebrew gm gave me permission to change from wizard to arcanist
55:50 <Steven> rockin that School Savant
26:19 <s_gmusic> y'know... i still need to look over the archetypes in the ACG.
32:14 <Steven> some of em pretty beast
32:22 <Steven> luckily the most powerful of them has been banned
33:34 <s_gmusic> our VL is surprised the White Mage archetype wasn't banned.
38:06 <Steven> meh... thats not really all that great.
39:12 <s_gmusic> inquisitor archetype that gives the Slayer's Studied Target, talents, and sneak attack. :\
40:17 <s_gmusic> you lose your Judgments for it all, though.
40:57 <Steven> i'd rather have judgements
45:13 <s_gmusic> hey, look! another semi-divine class has an archetype that makes it a monk!
45:18 <s_gmusic> :|
48:58 <Avatar> yeah white mage didn't look very impressive to me either
49:42 <Avatar> I feel like paizo are dropping the ball quite a bit this month with post-gencon stuff
50:08 <Avatar> I think it is
50:09 <Steven> They increased what they were doing without doing a matching increase in staff.
50:19 <Avatar> if you're going to release a bunch of major material at the busiest time of the year, they have to be prepared to do the fixes pretty soon afterwards
50:53 <Avatar> I don't see the logic for releasing it at gencon
51:09 <Avatar> other than trying to get "an explosion of greatness" happening all at once
51:15 <Avatar> because gencon
51:21 <Steven> its the biggest convention for gaming in the country.
51:43 <Steven> biggest concentration of gamers together at once, having a shiney new thing drives sales
55:05 <Avatar> releasing it early isn't going to un-drive sales
55:40 <Avatar> it'll still be a New Thing, and it'll have released fixes and doesn't collide with the rest of the shenanigans going on
59:37 <Avatar> there was this fantastic pathfinder database site that works similarly to mekkis' database and I have completely lost it
00:16 <Avatar> not like d20pfsrd, you could do things like look for feats that have dodge as a pre-requisite, or items that had something to do with dimension door
02:24 <Steven> save that if they release it at gencon those people going to gencon will spend money on the book at gencon.
02:45 <Steven> and because they are in the store picking it up they are more likely to buy other things.
03:09 <Steven> so they get foot traffic into their store
03:14 <Steven> which draws more people into the store.
03:21 <Avatar> what store
03:27 <Avatar> isn't gencon a convention 
03:43 <Steven> yes, but it has a dealers hall, which you pay for floor space and you can sell stuff out of it.
04:05 <Avatar> right
04:29 <Avatar> slightly flawed logic, but makes more than the no-sense I was seeing
04:49 <Steven> its the dumbest thing, but people will see a line and they will stand in it just to see what the big deal is about.
05:08 <Steven> and once they are in they will buy something just because they invested all that time waiting in line.
05:36 <Steven> fucking baffling, but it works.
06:17 <Avatar> yeah I guess
06:34 <Avatar> do you know anything about THE PATHS WE CHOOSE
06:42 <Steven> yes, i ran it at gencon
06:54 <Avatar> ok well how do I be a sczarni guy in it when it no longer exists
07:54 <Steven> well you can switch your faction
08:08 <Steven> the best choice is probably the exchange.
08:18 <Steven> and then you just say hey i'm part of the exchange
08:23 <Avatar> what if I didn't choose the exchange
08:49 <Avatar> does that mean I've cut all ties or does my history still count
09:27 <Steven> the sczarni and qadira joined forces, you're still a money loving rat bastard.
10:01 <Avatar> my sczarni guy was a paladin there to make sure the money loving rat bastards were kept in check
10:12 <Avatar> the goals of the exchange don't fit that anymore
10:27 <Steven> then you can still do the same thing, by making sure the exchange fulfill their bargains.
11:19 <Avatar> but they make bargains now
11:22 <Avatar> they don't cheat people out of them
11:54 <Avatar> original question: does my history still count or not?
12:07 <Avatar> I'm only interested for the purposes of this scenario
12:07 <Steven> yes, your history always counts.
12:20 <Avatar> I'm not going to miss out on a boon or something 
12:36 <Steven> but if you're not exchange and no one else is, there isnt going to be a lot for you to do with the exchange.
12:44 <Steven> so you wont run that particlar part of the scenario
13:28 <Avatar> right, so it is vital then
13:39 <Avatar> f
14:21 <Steven> it is not vital... pick a faction you'll run the missions that are important to the factions at the table.
15:12 <Avatar> the sczarni mission is important to this character if it's got anything to do with the past
21:07 <Steven> there are no boons to worry about, its just storyline.  If you choose to transfer over to the Exchange you use up your free faction change and then you'll have to pay prestige to transfer if you dont wanna keep doing trade missions
22:11 <Avatar> yeah exactly
11:40 <Steven> suuuuuuup
18:36 <Steven> oh god its damalon!
18:40 <Steven> run... run now!
18:45 <Steven> i mean, sup
19:02 <Damalon01> lol hey Steven
19:53 <Avatar> suuuuuuup
20:18 <Avatar> check out the unsworn shaman archetype in the ACG
22:38 <Steven> yeah.
25:53 <Steven> i seen that... it is alright.
29:47 <Mekkis> moin
38:39 <Steven> back.
42:51 <Avatar> did you play merchant's wake the other day dama
49:21 <lels> is anyone even in here
49:34 <Steven> yes.
50:05 <lels> cool
50:07 <lels> what's goingon
50:10 <Steven> there are at least 12 people here.
50:25 <lels> Sweet.
50:39 <lels> It seemed quiet
50:44 <Steven> usually is.
50:51 <lels> Makes sense
51:00 <Steven> we do a lot of lurking.
51:03 <Damalon01> yeah i played it yesterday
51:11 <Avatar> how was it 
51:22 <lels> indeed
51:31 <Avatar> I think I found a knock off of philderbeast's herolab app
51:34 <Damalon01> hmmm it was fine although i think the chase scene was a mess
51:51 <lels> so what do people usually talk about here?
51:57 <Steven> did they run the chase scene correctly?
52:01 <Steven> Pathfinder.
52:07 <Avatar> I usually don't mind chase scenes, it was good when you went through it with us I thought
52:07 <lels> cool
52:23 <lels> I was going to get some pathfinder stuff
52:29 <Steven> because for me, that chase is probably the best designed in all of PFS.
52:32 <lels> and then I got confused
52:39 <Avatar> woooo big claim steven
52:56 <Avatar> did walter write this one
53:00 <Avatar> or kyle
53:01 <lels> It's a bit overwhelming if you never played an rpg game before
53:40 <Steven> its a modified chase where people actually get to help each other out rather then it basically being 'Did people invest skill points in these 10 skills?!?"
54:29 <Damalon01> i think the GM messed up the chase scene. ive run that one and i ran it differently to him.
55:00 <Steven> yeah when i played it the GM didnt understand what was happening really.
55:01 <Steven> can be, my suggestion pick up the core.
55:10 <Steven> and so several people never made it past the first check.
55:33 <Steven> where as I made it to the room and was fighting 2 undead and an assassin on my own.
55:40 <lels> I thought about it, a friend of mine has it, but there doesn't seem to be anything in there that isn't online for free in some form
55:44 <Avatar> HA
56:01 <Damalon01> lols
56:14 <Damalon01> let me check it
56:25 <lels> I was thinking it could be worth me getting perhaps some tiles / flipmats 
56:51 <lels> and maybe some of those figurines
57:27 <Steven> well for a melee character it is pretty easy, its a CMB check followed by a CMB check a Reflex save, and then a str check.
57:35 <Steven> so my character blazed through it
57:44 <Steven> the wizards were not so fortunate
57:47 <lels> unless of course I am mistaken and you can't get everything in the core online
57:51 <Damalon01> ok its meant to be a group chase
57:56 <Damalon01> heres the text:
57:58 <Damalon01>  Unlike  a  typical  chase,  the  PCs  are  not  chasing  a 
57:58 <Damalon01> target so much as they are tracking how long it takes for 
57:58 <Damalon01> them to reach the NPC in danger. What’s more, the PCs 
57:58 <Damalon01> overcome obstacles as a group and not individually. Each 
57:58 <Damalon01> PC rolls one of the two checks to overcome the obstacle, 
57:58 <Damalon01> taking  the  highest  result.  Any  other  PCs’  checks  that 
57:58 <Damalon01> result in a 10 or higher are treated as having used the aid 
57:58 <Damalon01> another action for the higher result. The exception is the 
57:58 <Damalon01> assassin’s trap obstacle, which only one PC may attempt. 
58:05 <Steven> yeah its a modified chase which is fantastic.
58:20 <Damalon01> the GM i had didnt run it that way
58:29 <lels> I'm pretty green though so I don't know if that is a good path
58:31 <Damalon01> he must have misread it, no big deal
58:47 <Steven> imo they should never put a traditional chase in another scenario.
59:29 <Damalon01> i liked the idea of it being  a group roll, meaning there is no way for the group to be split up by it
00:20 <Steven> because you always get that one square thats like make an Intimidate check or a CMB check DC 21 or 18 respectively and you have the wizard thats rockin 7str and cha getting mired in the square for 3 rounds.... so much fun.
01:12 <Damalon01> hehehe or the cleric with like -6 armour check penalty trying to use climb with no ranks in it cos its not a class skill
01:42 <Steven> yeah... so horrible.
01:55 <Steven> modified chase rules are pretty awesome though.
02:23 <Damalon01> yeah, if only so you can get carried by the more skilled party members :P
02:45 <Steven> you mean... as pathfinders we chase someone down... but we cooperate... what is this witchcraft?
02:59 <Damalon01> lol yeah
08:17 <Avatar> http://www.pfrpg.com.au/pfs.php5
08:24 <Avatar> sign off on any newer scenarios you've run/played recently
08:46 <Steven> I REFUSE!
08:55 <Steven> sorry was busy.
09:53 <Steven> core is always worth buying for yourself.
11:50 <Brunius> You can get it all online, but after a while it gets annoying; and of course it's nice to support paizo
18:13 <Avatar> game is up
18:44 <Damalon01> thanks Av
19:18 <Avatar> need to convert my wizard to exploiter wizard ASAP
19:31 <Avatar> bit hard when you don't know how to build the damn thing
20:08 <Damalon01> lols
20:12 <Damalon01> i have no idea
23:32 <Avatar> I seem to have this thing with not playing the third part in trilogies
23:44 <Avatar> shades of ice part 3 didn't get played till much longer after 1+2
23:53 <Avatar> destiny of the sands I've played 1+2 but not 3 yet, that was ages ago
24:04 <Avatar> I've played fingerprints and fury but not fate of the fiend
24:10 <Avatar> ageser ago
24:57 <Damalon01> i tend to miss the second installment in trilogies
25:24 <Avatar> erch that sucks
25:51 <Damalon01> i missed part 2 in shades of ice
26:04 <Avatar> shades 2 is the best!
26:18 <oxygen> its the most boring 30 seconds of my life everytime im holding my dick taking a piss in the loo, is there anything i can do to relieve the boredom while pissing? i cant read a book with one hand, does anyone else have the same problem?
26:19 <Avatar> I played all 3 of quest for perfection together
26:25 <Avatar> I don't think that's a coincidence
26:30 <Damalon01> lols
26:41 <Avatar> I completed that journey yo
28:48 <Steven> yup....
28:49 <Steven> http://paizo.com/threads/rzs2rf5u?What-is-the-target-audience-for-pfs
29:04 <Steven> rant so hard!
29:40 <Brunius> yeah, you show them avatar!
30:39 <Avatar> thx
32:06 <Avatar> he doesn't make his position very clear
32:27 <Avatar> can't solve 101 unrelated problems at once
32:29 <Steven> no... no they do not.
33:29 <Steven> i really like the 'At gencon I was in a sea of priveleged white males, with few minorities and women around'
39:06 <Damalon01> interesting little speech he had there. of course since ive been playing PFS ive seen women and 'people of colour' at the table
39:29 <Steven> well... he paladin Iconic is black
39:30 <Damalon01> and theres a whole faction devoted to the fight for freedom
39:33 <Steven> the even
39:44 <Damalon01> uh huh
40:37 <Steven> there are more then a few transgender, lesbian, bisexual, and gay characters that crop up in PFS scenarios.
41:05 <Steven> and there is a pretty even split on VCs when it comes to male/female people in power.
42:02 <Steven> but i'm not gonna get into that on the forums... cause i like not being embroiled in forum drama.
43:02 <Damalon01> prolly a good idea
43:13 <Damalon01> i read Wrath of the Righteous part 1
43:37 <Steven> yeah, exactly that sort of thing.
44:03 <Damalon01> so i agree with you about the presence of gay characters and transgender
44:48 <Steven> there is also some really quite impressive lore revealed in Eyes that i wont go into.
44:58 <Steven> but... yeah.
45:09 <Damalon01> yeah i havent played Eyes of the 10, no spoilers! :P
45:36 <Steven> lets just say the pathfinder society is all about equality.
46:09 <Damalon01> well sort of.
46:29 <Steven> you can speak to me bout it after you've run through eyes.
46:46 <Damalon01> hehehe ok
47:47 <Damalon01> i was gonna say its about as equal as a pseudo-medieval setting can be
48:22 <Steven> its actually more so.
48:33 <Damalon01> yeah prolly
49:00 <Damalon01> im only going on what i know, which isnt everything
50:32 <Brunius> but w8 if u b& oxygen how are we breathing??????????? lol
53:10 <Steven> alright, sleep.
53:11 <Avatar> lolz
53:16 <Damalon01> night
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38:16 <Blambo> hello
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13:11 <Mekkis> !feat spell perfection
13:17 <diebot> Mekkis, SPELL PERFECTION []Prereq:  Spellcraft 15 ranks, at least three metamagic feats.  You are unequaled at the casting of one particular spell.
13:17 <diebot> Benefit:  Pick one spell which you have the ability to cast. Whenever you cast that spell you may apply any one metamagic feat you have to that spell without affecting its level or casting time, as long as the total modified level of the spell does not use a spell slot above 9th level. In addition, if you have other feats which allow you to apply
13:19 <diebot> a set numerical bonus to any aspect of this spell (such as Spell Focus, Spell Penetration, Weapon Focus [ray], and so on), double the bonus granted by that feat when applied to this spell. Source: APG
36:16 <Steven> thats how I'm going to get my Persistent Suffocation up to DC 34!
58:51 <Steven> so what up peoples.
08:02 <Mekkis> I'll just Sacred Geometry it
08:59 <Mekkis> What is the division of responsibilities between Brock and Compton?
09:28 <Steven> dunno, you should ask them.
13:13 <Avatar> I think mike is more co-ordinator and john is more developer
00:20 <Avatar> heated argument on the facebook group about alignment changes in PFS
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22:44 Topic for #d&d set by Avatar at Mon Aug 25 19:15:30 2014
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29:55 <Steven> back.
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40:38 <lels> is anyone even in here
40:50 <Steven> yes.
41:22 <lels> cool
41:24 <lels> what's goingon
41:26 <Steven> there are at least 12 people here.
41:42 <lels> Sweet.
41:56 <lels> It seemed quiet
42:01 <Steven> usually is.
42:08 <lels> Makes sense
42:16 <Steven> we do a lot of lurking.
42:39 <lels> indeed
43:08 <lels> so what do people usually talk about here?
43:18 <Steven> Pathfinder.
43:24 <lels> cool
43:40 <lels> I was going to get some pathfinder stuff
43:48 <lels> and then I got confused
44:17 <lels> It's a bit overwhelming if you never played an rpg game before
46:18 <Steven> can be, my suggestion pick up the core.
46:57 <lels> I thought about it, a friend of mine has it, but there doesn't seem to be anything in there that isn't online for free in some form
47:42 <lels> I was thinking it could be worth me getting perhaps some tiles / flipmats 
48:07 <lels> and maybe some of those figurines
49:03 <lels> unless of course I am mistaken and you can't get everything in the core online
49:46 <lels> I'm pretty green though so I don't know if that is a good path
00:13 <Steven> sorry was busy.
01:11 <Steven> core is always worth buying for yourself.
03:09 <Brunius> You can get it all online, but after a while it gets annoying; and of course it's nice to support paizo
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07:32 <Mekkis> !spell pilfering hand
07:41 <diebot> Mekkis, PILFERING HAND evocation ([force]) bard 2, cleric/oracle 2, magus 2, sorcerer/wizard 2 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one object Comp: S Duration: see text Save: none SR:yes (object)Source: Ultimate Combat
07:41 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/pilfering_hand.html
38:34 <Steven> suuup
48:20 <Avatar> ya
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13:19 <Steven> lookin at some of the exploits... few of them are really awesome
13:42 <Avatar> which ones
15:22 <Steven> well in my opinion the most OP one is the counter spelling one
15:44 <Avatar> ok I will take that one !!
16:01 <Steven> yes, and all your GMs will hate you.
16:37 <Steven> immediate action counterspell for 1 arcane point and 1 spell level of equal or higher level then what you're trying to counterspel.
17:29 <Avatar> it can't be as bad as the synthesist
17:45 <Steven> it is pretty bad.
17:54 <Steven> I've got an arcanist in my Rise game.
18:07 <Steven> none of my NPC casters get a spell off.
19:30 <Avatar> lolz suckerz
19:40 <Avatar> what other exploits are sweet
19:52 <Steven> i wouldnt have a problem with it if it wasnt an immediate action.
19:59 <Avatar> I don't get many unfortunately
20:08 <Avatar> exploiter wizard
20:15 <Avatar> quite a fitting name when you think about it
20:18 <Steven> cool.
20:34 <Avatar> hi guyz I'm here to exploit the game
21:27 <Steven> spell disruption is good if you run into ongoing effects like confusion/charm/dominate.
22:26 <Steven> because you can disrupt it for the combat and then deal with it post combat.
22:30 <Avatar> I didn't realise there is an extra arcane exploit feat
22:37 <Steven> yup
22:39 <Avatar> I thought that was going to limit me, apparently not !
26:56 <Avatar> quick study is pretty amazing
27:39 <Avatar> dimensional slide would be good if it could get you out of a grapple
32:35 <Mekkis> !spell wandering star motes
32:37 <diebot> Mekkis, WANDERING STAR MOTES illusion (pattern[light, mind-affecting]) bard 4, sorcerer/wizard 4, witch 4 1 standard action Range: close (25 ft. + 5 ft./2 levels) one living creature and special; see text Comp: V, S, M (a sprinkle of flash powder) Duration: 1/round per level Save: Will negates; see text SR:yesSource: APG
32:37 <diebot> The description is too long to send over IRC. View http://nl.ti4200.info/vpsirc/spells/wandering_star_motes.html
48:30 <Steven> oh wow... this boon is epic.
48:47 <Steven> now i wanna play season 6 stuff.
04:58 <s_gmusic> what boon?
07:44 <Steven> have you played 6-02
45:43 <s_gmusic> not yet. 
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