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00:08:41 <s_gmusic> nice
00:30:41 <Steven> yeah... $100 dollar card if i sell to a website.
00:40:16 <Steven> so what up with you all?
00:47:13 <s_gmusic> still working on a damn computer.
00:47:32 <s_gmusic> having to download a win7 iso and do a clean install on it.
00:47:46 <Steven> have you tried watching Frozen... from what i've heard it fixes everything
00:47:57 <s_gmusic> only if you Let It Go. :P
00:48:32 * Steven punches s_gmusic in the face.
00:50:16 <s_gmusic> HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAA
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02:44:51 <Avatar> there are some decent ACG spoilers in the messageboards
02:45:00 <Avatar> some archetypes in there that sound amazing
02:45:22 <Steven> i highly recommend getting the ACG.
02:45:31 <Avatar> have you got it yet
02:45:43 <Steven> I get a Free hardcopy at gencon.
02:45:52 <Avatar> but not yet?
02:46:04 <Steven> no, I've seen it though.
02:46:25 <Avatar> did you see anything about retraining synergies
02:46:47 <Avatar> I have asked, no joke, 5 or 6 times in the forums and nobody seems to even be thinking about it
02:46:55 <Avatar> or talking about it, at least
02:47:08 <Steven> I dont remember anything bout that sorry.
02:47:19 <Avatar> I will email jason b
02:47:29 <Steven> but seriously ACG a legit buy
02:47:51 <Avatar> one of the archetypes is for a wizard that gets the arcanist's exploit pool
02:48:25 <Avatar> that sounds pretty amazing for the character I couldn't decide whether to make into a wizard or an arcanist and is sitting on level 1 retraining
02:48:37 <Steven> I dont know if i can really talk about anything in the book until it comes out on august 14th.
02:48:52 <Avatar> jason says "keep spoilers light"
02:48:59 <Steven> i dont know when the NDA no longer applies.
02:48:59 <Avatar> ie. don't quote whole sections verbatim
02:49:27 <Avatar> there is one guy who is trying to ask about every single detail
02:49:37 <Avatar> "what oracle archetypes are in it" "what spells are in it"
02:50:51 <Steven> the class im most excited about is the hunter.
02:53:02 <Avatar> apparently there is Some Big Surprise with that
02:53:17 <Avatar> I didn't realise Mark Seifter is Rogue Eidolon
02:53:31 <Avatar> seems to be a big disservice to omit nicknames
02:53:37 <Steven> yup
02:53:48 <Steven> well there was an entire blogpost about him
02:54:34 <Steven> and i like the hunter because of this
02:54:38 <Steven> While he definitely looks feral, he probably isn't the feral hunter because the feral hunter trades out the animal companion to gain permanent bonuses, wild shape, and boosts to summoned allies, though perhaps that's a summoned tiger by his side
02:55:44 <Avatar> you say 'entire' but I say one piddly hidden-away blog post
02:56:04 <Steven> potato potato
02:56:19 <Avatar> I'm so so glad I didn't play my wizard
02:56:27 <Avatar> that's all I have to say after today
02:56:38 <Steven> why is that sir?
02:56:40 <Avatar> sitting on 3xp
02:56:45 <Avatar> amazing archetypes in the ACG
02:56:46 <Avatar> that's why
03:04:03 <Steven> sup philder
03:04:09 <Steven> I've a couple characters like that.
03:04:25 <Steven> just sitting at rebuild level, i dont plan on rebuilding them though, they are going to be forever 1s
03:06:46 <Avatar> well this might be my last 1
03:07:06 <Avatar> ah possibly second last, I think I have a GM credit baby that I had spare with 1xp
03:07:12 <Avatar> maybe I should make it an aasimar.
03:07:19 <Steven> i remember saying that.... back when i was in my teens
03:07:23 <Philderbeast> hey
03:07:28 <Avatar> yo
03:08:15 <Steven> so i guess walter wants to make a different character for this AP, so now i'm prolly gonna have to build something else cause we did a combo character
03:08:59 <Steven> sooooooo whatcha guys thinkin?
03:09:06 <Steven> he is going to go with a Pirate guy.
03:09:15 <Steven> all pirate all the time.
03:16:06 <Steven> time to make another character
03:16:11 <Steven> !throw 1d32
03:16:12 <diebot> Steven, 1d32: [1d32=25] 25
03:16:25 <Philderbeast> what AP?
03:16:36 <Steven> kingmaker i believe
03:18:20 <Steven> Guy lost his family, doesnt care if he lives or dies right now.
03:18:40 <Steven> so now just to build that.
03:19:49 <Steven> I'm thinking Brawler.
03:29:03 <Philderbeast> nice
03:29:37 <Philderbeast> wow I'm burning through version numbers in this app lol.... 7th update just got pushed to the market
03:30:09 <s_gmusic> how much more have you changed?
03:31:32 <Philderbeast> just more small fixes, the biggest one was making animal companions etc viewable
03:32:04 <Philderbeast> didnt realise they wouldent show as i dont have any characters that have one
03:34:19 <s_gmusic> are you planning to eventually get to Hero Lab iPad functionality or just keep it as a basic character sheet?
03:35:14 <Philderbeast> i would like to get some of it
03:35:21 <Philderbeast> but character creation etc i wont be able to do
03:35:40 <Philderbeast> not without far more belssings from wolf lair then i will ever be able to get
03:36:09 <Philderbeast> im hoping to get things like buff/debuffs etc in it and health management
03:36:55 <Philderbeast> im just waiting for people to stop finding bugs to start on that
03:37:26 <s_gmusic> not that far. I know they did an update to the ipad version where you could make a character on it without a regular computer. I meant like their earlier app, which let you make small adjustments from spells, track HP, and roll dice.
03:38:53 <Philderbeast> yea that's what I'm hoping to get to, well that or they beat me to it :P
03:46:16 <Philderbeast> anywho im off for dinner
03:46:34 <s_gmusic> later
04:16:43 <Brunius|M> Hey if anyone sees philder can you get him to ping me?
04:17:02 <Steven> he just left
04:32:07 <Brunius> ugh
04:32:28 <Brunius> yo
04:32:30 <Brunius> Philderbeast
04:32:39 <Brunius> What does being deputised as webwright involve?
04:34:30 <Philderbeast> whatever the officer decides to hand you, usually they will give you part of there workload to look after
04:34:48 <Brunius> A'right
04:34:51 <Brunius> I guess I can deal with that
04:36:00 <Steven> I'm quite bummed that I dont get to play my hunter...
04:37:52 <Philderbeast> just throw Dimirii an email and let him know your happy to help and im sure he will find you something ;)
04:38:02 <s_gmusic> why not play it anyway, steven?
04:38:13 <Steven> cause it wont be as fun without his brother.
04:38:49 <Steven> which was walters character, i guess he really wants to play a pirate though, I've already got a pirate in PFS... and really one pirate is much like the other.
04:39:24 <s_gmusic> could rp it as if your hunter thought the pirate was his brother and annoys him to no end
04:40:05 <Steven> That will not really work. I'm just building something else, but everything i come up with is less fun then the hunter.
04:40:33 <Steven> none of these characters are mechanically weaker or stronger, It is just the cool backstory we had worked out.
04:43:16 <Steven> he hasnt decided officially if he is going to play the pirate, but... he is going to play the pirate.
04:43:37 <Steven> Everything < Pirate
05:02:22 <Philderbeast> well technically i have everything i need for the dynamic character sheet now..... i guess i should start writing it
05:02:35 <Steven> yeah get on it boy!
05:03:26 <Philderbeast> pff you can talk... you wont even use it :P
05:03:49 <Steven> doesnt mean i cant try to get you motivated.
05:08:44 <Philderbeast> true true
05:08:49 <Philderbeast> https://bitbucket.org/ThePhilderbeast/hero-lab-character-sheet-viewer/issues?status=new&status=open can you access that?
05:15:09 <Steven> no files found
05:15:27 <Steven> but i think i successfully reached the page linked.
05:18:51 <Avatar> depends how many people use it
05:19:06 <Philderbeast> yea its probably going to either be 99c or $1.99 im thinking
05:19:14 <Philderbeast> thats cool as long as you can get to the issue tracker
05:23:00 <Philderbeast> *sigh* i really wish i didnt have to push a second update tonight.... but that fix couldn't really wait :(
05:23:21 <Philderbeast> it will ask permission for it though so if its working don't bother grabbing it for now
05:23:22 <Avatar> not many people have it yet man
05:23:28 <Avatar> now is the time
05:23:34 <Philderbeast> yea i know
05:24:24 <Philderbeast> you shouldn't be able to see much since i have the source code on there but its private :)
05:25:07 <Philderbeast> that and at least people will see that bugs are getting fixed as they are found
05:25:24 <Philderbeast> nothing worse then having a buggy app that never gets fixed
05:25:33 <Brunius> Yeah
05:35:57 <Steven> okay found a new character to create.
05:37:02 <Philderbeast> ahhh much better a menu button to let you load a new portfolio without closing the app :)
05:44:34 <Philderbeast> I do have a target for what i would like to earn from the app... but I'm fairly sure $25 wont be to hard to get :P (that's the fee i had to pay to get a developer account)
05:44:41 <Philderbeast> ?
05:45:06 <Steven> Wizard/Mystery Cultist
05:47:07 <Steven> heh, my friend and i just discussed something horrible.
05:47:15 <Brunius> was it murder
05:48:09 <Steven> Synthesist Pistolero Gunslinger w/ 4 arms, multiattack, and Double barreled pistols.
05:49:48 <Steven> yeah... pretty horrible.
05:50:06 <Philderbeast> add old weapon cord rules....
05:50:16 <Steven> no need.
05:50:20 <Philderbeast> ill let you work out how many shots in 1 round.....
05:50:35 <Steven> gloves of storing
05:51:07 <Philderbeast> so how many shots in a full round at lvl 20 (just for giggles may as well max it
05:51:42 <Steven> i dont want to calculate that up.
05:51:44 <Steven> but a lot.
05:52:15 <Philderbeast> how many levels of each would you take though?
05:53:35 <s_gmusic> just seen it was 4:45a. should really go to bed, but have to work on two computers for people. =_=
05:53:50 * Steven shrugs.
05:53:51 <Avatar> how much are they paying you
05:54:02 <Steven> no fewer than 5 gunslinger
05:54:08 <Avatar> they would have to pay me a fortune to lose sleep, especially lots of it
05:55:41 <s_gmusic> I have sleep issues, anyway. one computer is for my dad, so I just have to see how well it does (or doesn't) work. the other is for a friend of my brother's. his main computer got stolen, so he needs this one working for his kids to use for school.
05:55:55 <s_gmusic> am I doing this for free? no. he just doesn't know it yet.
05:56:09 <Avatar> shrewd bargaining on both sides
05:56:48 <s_gmusic> and in the middle of all this, I get to deal with EA tech support because my xbox gamer tag is linked to an email I don't know about.
05:57:40 <Philderbeast> hmmm
05:59:22 <Brunius> sounds fun
06:01:09 <Philderbeast> hmmm even if you dropped one gun after the first itterative to reload the rest with... that a lot of shots per itterative
06:01:35 <Avatar> the synthesist is banned
06:01:49 <Steven> you wouldnt need to, a glove of storing you can put away and retrieve something from it as a free action
06:01:56 <Steven> htis isnt pfs man.
06:01:57 <Philderbeast> lol
06:02:03 <Philderbeast> yea this is not pfs talk..
06:02:18 <Philderbeast> more like make the most broken thing you can....
06:02:18 <Avatar> ban it
06:02:30 <Steven> This is being a dick bag and making something super douche
06:02:57 <Philderbeast> Synthisist looks like it could be fun to play... if easliy abused
06:03:48 <Steven> so easily abused.
06:03:51 <s_gmusic> sure, we'll go with that.
06:04:19 <Steven> i remember a time when level 3 characters had 60+ HP pools.
06:04:32 <Avatar> when was that
06:04:40 <Steven> when synthesists were legal.
06:04:48 <Philderbeast> when they where playing a synthisist lol
06:05:10 <Avatar> thankfully they are banned now
06:06:29 <Avatar> :o)
06:06:45 <Avatar> synthesists are banned.
06:06:56 <Philderbeast> yea.... I'm not 100% sure i agree... noting that once you get through the eidolon's hp the summoner is very weak....
06:07:11 <Philderbeast> but meh, its banned so no point pondering what if's
06:07:39 <Avatar> yes but once you get through another class' hit points, the character is dead
06:08:45 <Philderbeast> no diffrent from a standard summoner who hides behind his eidolon like they all do really
06:08:55 <Philderbeast> except this way your at least already on top of them to hit them
06:11:05 <Philderbeast> anywho i guess ill put another hour in on this app, since its earning me so much ($0.26 so far whoot)
06:22:03 <Avatar> have you advertised it anywhere yet
06:22:06 <Avatar> apart from in here
06:25:14 <Philderbeast> its on the wolf lair forums and they have advertised it on there facebook page
06:26:18 <Philderbeast> i had 11 installs from the market first thing this morning and that was less then an hour after they put it on facebook
06:26:24 <Philderbeast> unfortuntaly the stats only update daily
06:26:59 <Avatar> advertise it everywhere man
06:27:33 <Avatar> paizo messageboards > technology
06:27:44 <Avatar> there's facebook pages for PFS in every state
06:27:48 <Philderbeast> not really anywhere else to advertise it..... the offical herolab forums should cover most people that are interested
06:28:09 <Avatar> up to you
06:28:48 <Philderbeast> im happy with a slow start, lets me get more bugs fixed and found before i have 50000 users that are all having diffrent issues
06:29:41 <Avatar> oh uh
06:29:47 <Philderbeast> ill put it out more places once i get a feeling for how its going, i imagine word of mouth will start to pick up soon anyway
06:29:54 <Avatar> when you tap cancel when choosing a file, it just closes and reopens itself
06:30:03 <Philderbeast> yep
06:30:18 <Philderbeast> thats intended at the moment
06:31:12 <Avatar> that is weird behaviour to have intentional
06:31:22 <Avatar> better to remove the button and readd it later
06:34:07 <Philderbeast> i cant
06:34:16 <Philderbeast> its part of the google drive API
06:35:01 <Philderbeast> if/when i write the local portfolio use section the cancel will go back to letting you pick where to load from though
06:35:26 <Philderbeast> sadly its acctully going to be harder to let you store them localy yourself then on google drive
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09:35:18 <Ulzef> hey people anyone around?
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23:21:10 <Steven> so i went down to the game shop
23:21:18 <Steven> hung out, played some games.
23:21:26 <Steven> bought a pack of conspiracy... foil dak fayden
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